The Whirlwind anti-tank aircraft missile is being adapted to the Mi-28NE and Mi-35P helicopters

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Anti-tank aviation guided missile "Vikhr" will be adapted for use by combat helicopters Mi-28NE and Mi-35P, as well as attack drone "Orion-E". This possibility is being considered by the specialists of the Kalashnikov group of companies. This was reported by the press service of the concern.

According to the report, the Vikhr ATGM, originally developed for the Ka-50 and Ka-52 attack helicopters, will be adapted to other carriers, including the Mi-28NE and Mi-35P helicopters, as well as the Orion-E UAV. Such options are being considered, work in this direction is underway.



Work on the modernization of the Vikhr aircraft guided missile was reported in February this year. The missile was modernized as part of the program for the unification of the weapons of the Ka-52 and Mi-28NM helicopters; in May this year, it was reported that the first tests of the improved missile were carried out. At the same time, it was clarified that the work has not yet been completed.

The 9K121M "Vikhr-M" missile system with the 9M127-1 "Vikhr-1" missile was developed at the end of the eighties at the Tula Instrument Design Bureau (KBP), was officially adopted in 1992, but mass production began only in 2013. when a contract was signed for the production of missiles in the amount of 13 billion rubles. Rearmament to a new missile system was carried out in the period from 2013 to 2015.

The main purpose of the missile is to destroy armored vehicles, including those with active armor, as well as air targets at speeds up to 800 km / h. The launch height is up to 4000 meters, and the maximum firing range is 10 kilometers. It was originally intended for the Su-25 and Ka-52.
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  1. +1
    23 July 2021 14: 42
    "Possibility is being considered" and "will" are not the same thing.
    1. +5
      23 July 2021 15: 10
      Where will they go? Only on the Ka-52 you will not earn. It is necessary to expand the sales market, which means the carriers. UAVs are especially interesting. But it is also important for the Defense Ministry, and not just for the concern, to unify the armament of army aviation.
    2. 0
      23 July 2021 18: 00
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      "Possibility is being considered" and "will" are not the same thing.

      Well, you need to have such an opportunity, Vladimir .. Which opponents have tanks now? In Ukraine, probably for them all this .., simple and angry ..
      The question will have to be resolved all the same .. Here they are preparing for this!
      Suspended and forward, drive walk-field ..he he
      PS Have survived, but what should the men do? The issue needs to be resolved ..
    3. +2
      23 July 2021 18: 14
      Oh, these opportunities! Here's what's on offer for Generation 2 rocket helicopters? As many as 3 types! 1.Raketa 9M120 ("Attack") for the "Shturm" complex, incl. and with a combined (radio command + laser) guidance system ...; 2. Rocket 9M127 - "laser-beam" ...; 3. Rocket 9M123 - "laser-beam + radio-beam" ("Chrysanthemum-V") ... Here's what to choose? Where to put all this "joy"? Three! But within the framework! Within the 2nd generation! And if on the "approach" of the 3rd generation AT-missiles, then out of 3 "kopecks" it is advisable to leave one ... for the "Papuans"! Shaw leave?
      1. +1
        23 July 2021 19: 35
        We leave everything. For there will not be enough reserves for a long time. Intense fighting is devastating arsenals too quickly.
        1. 0
          24 July 2021 20: 03
          Quote: Roma-1977
          We leave everything. For there will not be enough reserves for a long time. Intense fighting is devastating arsenals too quickly.


          It is necessary to create immediately a unified rocket with the potential for future modernization.
          20-30 years ahead.
          Work on the concept first.
          In principle, I am for the correct actions.
          But why can't we find examples of correct actions in Russia?
          Here is an example of the same Hellfire
          Development began in the mid-70s.
          Immediately as carriers - absolutely all US and NATO helicopters.
          Все.
          From Cobra and Apache, to Hawk and Kiowa and many others up to the old Iroquois.
          Aircraft - Ganship, A-10, Phantom, Freedom, Shershen, F-16, and others ..
          Right away.
          Initially.
          It has been modernized several times already.
          In our system, their modernization is all the time we have new missiles.
          But modernization is backward compatibility with all carriers by updating the software for avionics carriers.
          And when the rocket is unified, then this is a colossal reduction in costs not only for production, but also for storage and maintenance and use.
          And therefore the same Hellfires were released under 50 thousand.
          Because there is no need for a whistle, is it in the warehouse / or not
          We just take what we have and hang what we have there.
          And the result.
          Saving money on unification, freeing up funds for quantity and quality ...
  2. +7
    23 July 2021 14: 52
    Title
    The Whirlwind anti-tank aircraft missile is being adapted to the Mi-28NE and Mi-35P helicopters

    First paragraph
    The Vikhr anti-tank aircraft guided missile will be adapted for use by the Mi-28NE and Mi-35P combat helicopters, as well as the Orion-E strike drone. This possibility is being considered by specialists from the Kalashnikov group of companies. This was reported by the press service of the concern.

    Second paragraph
    According to the report, the Vikhr ATGM, originally developed for the Ka-50 and Ka-52 attack helicopters, will be adapted to other carriers, including the Mi-28NE and Mi-35P helicopters, as well as the Orion-E UAV. Such options are being considered, work in this direction is underway.


    Tell me, why write the same thing, almost with the same words THREE times ???? For particularly nerdy readers?
    Together with the third paragraph, this can all be put into one. One paragraph instead of three !! Or do we pay for news by the number of letters?
    1. 0
      23 July 2021 15: 09
      Just copied and mustache
    2. +3
      23 July 2021 15: 50
      So articles are always paid according to the number of letters. It was only Mayakovsky who was paid line by line.
  3. -1
    23 July 2021 14: 53
    But it surprises me.
    If there is a rocket, it is made especially for a helicopter. Why is it not initially adapted to another helicopter, which was made even later?
    And we're still laughing about the Indian "zoo".
    1. +3
      23 July 2021 14: 56
      The rocket comes with test / state equipment, communication, homing head programming, guidance, transmission of data on warhead activation ... You can't just attach it to another helicopter.
      1. -1
        23 July 2021 15: 03
        Quote: Wedmak
        You can't just attach it to another helicopter.

        Well, I'm talking about the same thing.
        Where is the unification?
        Why can one rocket be bolted to only one helicopter, and only another to another?
        1. +7
          23 July 2021 15: 09
          I'm certainly not a ... weapons specialist. But as a techie, I can assume: in one design bureau they said that the data on the rocket will be transmitted via 3 wires with a voltage of 12 volts, and in the other they said - and we have a smaller rocket, but smarter, tama 12 volts will not work, we will have 4 wires and 8 volt. And in the helicopter design bureau they said - but we need to carry a small arsenal on the pylons, so here are 5 wires, 24 volts, perverted as you like.
          Well ... it started spinning.
          And then the UAC came and tried to standardize the whole thing.
          1. 0
            23 July 2021 16: 14
            And in the helicopter design bureau they said - but we need to carry a small arsenal on the pylons, so here are 5 wires, 24 volts, perverted as you like.



            In fact, this is such a documented and pedantic process with a bunch of intermediate stages and commissions that only one can explain it. There is no rocket yet, and there are no special hopes for it either. A helicopter is needed. They do it. Then they see - the rocket turned out, it makes sense to remake earlier cars for it.
            1. +1
              23 July 2021 16: 19
              What we are talking about - it is quite difficult to make some kind of universal data bus. The same is true for nutrition, you can't guess the parameters. And to do for the future, with a bunch of modes, perhaps even programmable .... well, there is a problem of stability.
              1. 0
                23 July 2021 16: 36
                it is quite difficult to make some kind of universal data bus.

                It is not difficult. An example is ARINC 429 for linking any electronic junk with any junk (from an engine to a radio altimeter) on a civilian board. It is not difficult to make standard suspension assemblies or adapters, even for a cast iron, even for a barrel of beer. And oblige the armed forces to "invent" something new, taking into account this "rut". But the rocket is rarely on its own - it still needs a bunch of onboard junk, personally and only for it.
          2. 0
            24 July 2021 20: 18
            Quote: Wedmak
            I'm certainly not a ... weapons specialist. But as a techie, I can assume: in one design bureau they said that the data on the rocket will be transmitted via 3 wires with a voltage of 12 volts, and in the other they said - and we have a smaller rocket, but smarter, tama 12 volts will not work, we will have 4 wires and 8 volt. And in the helicopter design bureau they said - but we need to carry a small arsenal on the pylons, so here are 5 wires, 24 volts, perverted as you like.
            Well ... it started spinning.
            And then the UAC came and tried to standardize the whole thing.



            And the enemies, back in 1973, unified all the standards for outboard weapons.
            Helicopters, airplanes. Even small ships and ground launchers work according to the standards 1553, 1760 and their versions.
            And they are compatible ... right and back ...
    2. 0
      24 July 2021 20: 08
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      But it surprises me.
      If there is a rocket, it is made especially for a helicopter. Why is it not initially adapted to another helicopter, which was made even later?
      And we're still laughing about the Indian "zoo".

      It's Russia.
      In Russia, it is not customary to take away someone else's bread. Not by customers, not by the manufacturers themselves.
      They divide the plot so that everyone has enough.
      But the result is in fact an Indian zoo. You're right.
      And in case of war, we will have a couple of thousand Whirlwinds, but there will be no Ka-52.
      And the Mi-28 will stand with empty ATGM ammunition ...
  4. +2
    23 July 2021 14: 53
    helicopters Ka-50 and Ka-52, will be adapted to other carriers

    Well, right) I, who do not know, are even surprised that they did not adapt it before.
  5. +2
    23 July 2021 14: 54
    Quote: Wedmak
    For particularly nerdy readers?

    To confuse the enemy! laughing
  6. +3
    23 July 2021 14: 59
    I am surprised, but when developing missiles, do they not unify their operating system (suspension, contact group, guidance systems, etc.) and, when modernizing, make changes accordingly?
    1. 0
      24 July 2021 20: 22
      Quote: Ros 56
      I am surprised, but when developing missiles, do they not unify their operating system (suspension, contact group, guidance systems, etc.) and, when modernizing, make changes accordingly?

      No.
      There has been controversy about standardization since the early 80s, but the military-industrial complex lobbies have constantly defeated the military, who demanded a standard ...
      It's not profitable for them ...
      Here is a hammer for 30mm nails, and here is a separate hammer for 55mm nails ..
      And if you need a hammer for 90mm, then here's more ...
      And under 100 - another separate hammer ...
      1. 0
        24 July 2021 20: 26
        Yes, they don’t sow fools, don’t reap, they grow themselves.
  7. +2
    23 July 2021 15: 14
    finally came to their senses
  8. +2
    23 July 2021 15: 15
    Logically, will increase the attractiveness of export Miles and Orions
    1. 0
      24 July 2021 20: 23
      Quote: Prjanik
      Logically, will increase the attractiveness of export Miles and Orions

      Forget about export.
      There are many reasons, from sanctions to their emptiness.
      At least equip your army.
  9. 0
    23 July 2021 15: 34
    Oh, and Orion seems to be just right. And in terms of mass and launch range.
    1. +1
      23 July 2021 17: 56
      Quote: alexmach
      but on Orion it seems just right. And in terms of mass and launch range.

      I don't think it's "just right" ... For a UAV, it is more convenient (more expedient) to use aviation ammunition (missiles) with a semi-active laser seeker! Rockets "Whirlwind" - with a laser-beam guidance system ("telecontrolled") ...
  10. -2
    23 July 2021 16: 20
    Great news, Top rocket!
    1. +3
      23 July 2021 17: 48
      Quote: Fredgar Puzix Jr.
      Great news, Top rocket!

      Are you serious ... or are you kidding me? Generation 2+ rocket?
      1. -3
        23 July 2021 19: 39
        Rocket 2+ has several advantages over Rocket 3-. You do not need to think in terms of abstract "generations", you need to think in terms of whether the missile meets the requirements for armor penetration, accuracy, noise immunity, and range. And the price.
        1. 0
          24 July 2021 20: 27
          Quote: Roma-1977
          Rocket 2+ has several advantages over Rocket 3-. You do not need to think in terms of abstract "generations", you need to think in terms of whether the missile meets the requirements for armor penetration, accuracy, noise immunity, and range. And the price.

          Yes. Yes.
          And sacrifice the life of the crew, which must be trained for ten years.
          Donate a $ 50 million helicopter.
          Sacrifice the remaining 7-15 rockets on the suspension.
          Apart from the huge amount of costs to maintain pilots, technicians, fuel consumption for training flights ...
          Just because in the modern concept, launching a 2+ rocket is equal to suicide ...
          If on the other side - there will be no Syrian barmaley in carts and without stingers ...
          1. 0
            26 July 2021 08: 07
            You exaggerate the degree of vulnerability of a helicopter with conventional "second" generation missiles compared to "third". On the side of the "second plus" generation, the supersonic missile speed and the increased power of the warhead. We also do not forget that it is launched, ideally, also from a distance inaccessible to return fire.
  11. 0
    24 July 2021 20: 36
    By the way, it is strange to read that the contract was fulfilled and the rearmament was carried out in 2013-2015.
    As far as I remember, the single day of military acceptance, which was with Putin and Shoigu, in 2016.
    On it, the Kalashnikov Concern was completely uncovered, for the fact that they did not supply a single Vortex missile out of the ordered tens of thousands ...
    None.
    And the money was consumed.
    Anyone can find it on the Internet ..
    Any.
    The transcript of a single day of military acceptance is on the net.