Russian aerobatic team "Strizhi" switches from MiG-29 fighters to MiG-35

The Russian aerobatic team "Strizhi" is transferred to the latest MiG-35 fighters. According to the group commander, Colonel Sergei Osyaykin, the group should receive the first fighter jet this year.

According to the colonel, "Swifts" are preparing to switch to a new aircraft, awaiting a command for rearmament. According to the group's plans, the first MiG-35 should arrive this year, but everything depends on the manufacturers. The group is expected to receive nine MiG-35s, i.e. a complete set capable of replacing the entire fleet of currently used MiG-29 fighters.

We are planning to switch to a new aircraft (...) But this no longer depends on us, but on the industry, on the conduct of state tests. Always adopting an aircraft is a long process

- leads RIA News words of Osyaykin.

About plans to transplant aviation the Swifts group for the new MiG-35 fighter was reported back in 2017. Then the deputy commander of the Aerospace Forces - Air Force Commander Andrei Yudin said that the Ministry of Defense had made a decision to replace the MiG-29 with the MiG-35, only the end of state tests and the beginning of aircraft purchases were expected. The first deliveries of the MiG-35 were expected in 2018. The group's pilots were alerted to the planned replacement of aircraft.

The Swifts aerobatic group is a flight unit created to perform demonstration flights. The group was created in early May 1991 on the basis of the 234th Guards Proskurovsky Aviation Regiment. It includes the best pilots of the Kubinka airbase near Moscow. The group is currently equipped with MiG-29 fighters.

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[svp67]

It is quite logical who better than these pilots will be able to show the "product with their face" ...

[Nevsky_ZU]

And the combat units of the Aerospace Forces are not present?

[max702]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

And the combat units of the Aerospace Forces are not present?

In the Aerospace Forces, they are not needed because the export project and no more .. The Aerospace Forces triples the SU, and it is nonsense to produce a variety of different airplanes for the same price .. The tank troops and the fleet can not get rid of this ailment. your line ..

[URAL72]

Everything goes according to plan. All of these vehicles will be upgraded soon and they will have the same engine. This is the lion's share of service costs.

[max702]

Quote from rudolf

This is not a videoconferencing team, but Sukhoi. They moved all competitors to please their loved ones, but at the same time they themselves multiply the zoo. The Su-30 is parallel to the Su-35, excluding the Su-34. Three cars on the conveyor, instead of one.

Everything is so, but MIG in this zoo is even more stupid, under the SU at least the infrastructure is the same as most of the parts / AF, and the training of pilots / technicians is similar as well as tactics .. In the USA, for example, the F-15 family looks similar to our SU and nothing is satisfied .. And the MIG is not an analogue of the f-16 .. That is why it is not needed by the VKS ..

[V means B]

Why is the MiG not an analogue of the F-16?

[max702]

Quote: V is for B

Why is the MiG not an analogue of the F-16?

Two engines, not one .. Poor avionics and a meager radius of the OBD .. MIG-29 is generally a crude plane shoved into the troops by the MIG lobbyists .. The pilots did not like him because his fighting qualities are extremely low, the aerobatics is fine, but let him fight SU ..

[apricot]

"This is not a fine fellow, but Sukhoi. They have moved all competitors to please their loved ones, but at the same time they are multiplying the zoo. The Su-30 is in parallel with the Su-35, not counting the Su-34.
One of the few healthy comments I was on business trips for several years, where I could only read the site's news from time to time, shocked by the intellectual level of the visitors! (example, a bunch of comments on how Belarus will pay for SU with potatoes in one of the articles) ...
"MECHANNIK" where are you and where are you adequate?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

In videoconferencing, they are not needed for an export project and no more ..

DO NOT AGREE !!!

The MiG-35 will also go to the Aerospace Forces, and the fleet will have its boat version.

The price of the MiG-35 is much lower than the price of the Su-35, the operating cost of the MiG is also lower, since it is lighter and consumes less fuel.

It is important to use the MiG-35 where the Su-35 is redundant.

The MiG-35 is a lightweight but twin-engine multifunctional fighter with its own advantages.

At one time, the training battles of the MiG-29 against the Su-27 showed the superiority of the MiG at all combat distances.

I am confident that the MiG-35 will not yield to the Su-35 in aerial combat.

The disadvantages of the MiG-29, such as a small fuel reserve, poor visibility, and a low engine resource, are eliminated in the MiG-35.

The MiG-35 is needed by the Aerospace Forces as a front-line fighter and an air defense facility, and the Su-30/34/35 will operate from the depths of the defense using the front airfields of the guarded MiG-35 for refueling and replenishment of ammunition.

Such a defense system will not allow the enemy to knock out most of our aircraft with the first blow.

It is much easier to defend an airfield 1000 km from the front line than the one at the front itself.

And it is not difficult to maintain aircraft of different types, while we will get savings from the operation of the less expensive and cheap MiG-35, where the Su-30/34/35 are redundant.

[apricot]

I absolutely agree with you, I wish I could see the development of the Yak 141 live ..

[max702]

How much lower is it? Number please! Nonsense about the frontline remained in the 40-50s, the eliminated shortcomings killed the advantages of the MIG in the form of maneuverability due to the mass of fuel .. There are no cheap MIG-35s in nature! The SU family is not redundant, but just right, especially for our country, but the assortment is criminal in itself, especially if the obviously worst plane is snatched in .. MIG is an export that's all .. MIG for aerobatics DRYING for war ..
rs: The battles in Eritrea showed who is superior to whom in battle.

[Rushnairfors]

A moment for aerobatics? Yes, since the Second World War, MiG aircraft have been the hallmark of the Soviet Air Force: Mig1, Mig3, Mig9, Mig15,17,18, Legendary Mig21, Titanium Mig25, Mig23 in a heap of modifications, Mig29, Mig31. How many of these planes had to do battle is not to be counted. Where was Sukhoi? Where did the Su-7 and Su-15 distinguished themselves? Almost anywhere. And the battles in Eritrea ..... Well, yes, su27 knocked down a moment29, but to a greater extent it is the luck of some and the lack of education of others.

[Rushnairfors]

Mistake, moment 19.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Rushnairfors

A moment for aerobatics? Yes, since the Second World War, MiG aircraft have been the hallmark of the Soviet Air Force: Mig1, Mig3, Mig9, Mig15,17,18, Legendary Mig21, Titanium Mig25, Mig23 in a heap of modifications, Mig29, Mig31. How many of these planes had to do battle is not to be counted. Where was Sukhoi? Where did the Su-7 and Su-15 distinguished themselves? Almost anywhere. And the battles in Eritrea ..... Well, yes, su27 knocked down a moment29, but to a greater extent it is the luck of some and the lack of education of others.

By the way, having read enemies for many years, they have an association and identity "Soviet Union / Russia = MiG", Russian MiGs is a well-established independent term.

Flanker is in itself ... Combinations of Russian Su, Russian Flanker - there is no such well-established term ...
Although, of course, Su is now at its best, and we have already lost the MiG.
But ..
This is only because the moment itself did it.
The proximity of the KB to the huge Moscow money changed the mentality very quickly, devastated the KB.
If Poghosyan lobbied the SU, saving his factories, his staff, his design bureau, then a monument should be erected to him.
And the Migovtsy just behaved like nerds. There was a huge demand for the MiG, how much of it was sold by the post-Soviet countries and the countries of the Air Force. You could get rich on escort contracts ...
But they sat or quit ...
Here you have to think a little differently.
We lost the MiG, but saved Su, and did not lose everyone, as was the case in many areas of our industry ...

[max702]

MIG summed up, let's say, the "national" question .. It's one thing for kids and relatives to arrange a tasty feeding trough, but someone also needs to work .. When in MIG the number of bright faces with the correct genes became redundant, then everything was covered with a torn garrison cap. heroes of other times in the real world will not leave ..

[max702]

Achievements of the old days are good, but not enough ... Well, for you I have a good song!

[Herman 4223]

They are also considered combatant.

[knn54]

Pilots of aerobatic teams in the West fly on training aircraft.
To transplant aces performing STUNKS, sometimes beyond the capabilities of manned vehicles. on a RAW plane is not good.
Let the test pilots work first.
Only after fine-tuning can a replacement be made.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: knn54

Pilots of aerobatic teams in the West fly on training aircraft.

Our pilots are not purely aerobatics: both the Swifts and the Vityaz are part of the Russian Air Force and, if necessary, will perform the same combat missions as the others.

[d4rkmesa]

I agree, I suspect that the Bark is still too raw, the Indian MiG-29k have suspiciously many failures.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The MiG-35 is not a crude aircraft, it passed all the necessary tests and began its serial delivery.

[svp67]

Quote: knn54

Pilots of aerobatic teams in the West fly on training aircraft.

Yes, what are you saying, really?
It turns out that the "Blue Angels" on the F-18 are training aircraft ...
"Petrel" on the F-16, "Turkish stars" and the Swiss "Patrol Suisse" on the F-5
Team 60 is the aerobatic team of the Swedish Air Force. The group is currently flying six SK-60 light multipurpose attack aircraft,
And the British "Red Arrows"

and the French "Patrol de France"

use aircraft that are partly considered "training", but also have quite combat modifications.

[mvg]

Pilots of aerobatic teams in the West fly on training aircraft.

The question would have been studied more closely .. "pilot".

[SovAr238A]

Quote: knn54

Pilots of aerobatic teams in the West fly on training aircraft.
To transplant aces performing STUNKS, sometimes beyond the capabilities of manned vehicles. on a RAW plane is not good.
Let the test pilots work first.
Only after fine-tuning can a replacement be made.

Blue Angels?

[da Vinci]

Excuse me, for example, Blue Angels on honets? The best advertising for aviation without war is the aerobatic teams. Tank biathlon was created for tanks. For BMP, you need to create synchronized swimming.

[Babay Atasovich]

Quote: svp67

It is quite logical who better than these pilots will be able to show the "product with their face" ...

Kubinka along the way here, on VO ☆ sits often and carefully reads the comments!

[Jacket in stock]

But I'm wondering if the aerobatic teams have planes in full combat configuration or lightweight, for example, without heavy expensive radars?

[carstorm 11]

They always write and say that combat vehicles.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: carstorm 11

They always write and say that combat vehicles.

I don't know where you saw about combat vehicles ...
But the cars are completely empty.
No radar, no navigation equipment ..
Otherwise, the aerobatic teams would not fly after the leader.
How do they ALWAYS do it!
For the catastrophe of the Russian Knights near Kamran, just a consequence of the complete absence of radar and navigation equipment ...

They have EDSU with other parameters.
For combat pilots, such settings are not available.
This is also a fact.

[carstorm 11]

In general, in any source. Literally
Russian Knights "is the only aviation group in the world that demonstrates aerobatics on heavy combat fighters Su-27. Their aircraft, like those of" Swifts ", do not differ from combat vehicles in anything except color. the text is everywhere. ”As for the disaster, you should study the question.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Jacket in stock

But I'm wondering if the aerobatic teams have planes in full combat configuration or ...

In the distant '90 m, it seems they flew over us to shoot, normal technique. Then, somewhere in '08, I took out one Swift after retraining - he did not talk about any modifications. This is a feature of Russian groups - a completely combat ready-to-use equipment

[Pete mitchell]

And then I looked at another resource and in the suit: http://www.airforce.ru/content/reportazhi-1/2474-uprazhneniya-so-strel-bami-na-kubinke/

[max702]

Most likely they do not care about all these stray things at the zoo ..

[NDR-791]

That week, after refueling, five swifts went east towards Novosibirsk. They took off beautifully, almost simultaneously. As I read the title of the article, I immediately thought that so they flew to get new cars.

Quote: Jacket in stock

But I'm wondering if the aerobatic teams have planes in full combat configuration or lightweight, for example, without heavy expensive radars?

And how do they overtake without radars on their own? They fly not only in Moscow. Several years ago, on the day of the city, the class was shown

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: NDR-791

they flew to get new cars.

You have a strange thought.
Firstly, they are made in the suburbs,
And secondly, why should they fly for new cars on their old ones, and even in a group.

[Astra55]

"Radar" is a generalized concept used by people who are not familiar with military aviation.
REO (radio-electronic equipment) of the aircraft consists of complexes, systems and individual units.
And if the plane is not intended for warfare, then a lot of equipment can be safely dismantled (including the OLS, the "radar" dish in the common people), but the "radar" computer cannot be dismantled, otherwise the SEI will go out.
Another question is how this will affect the alignment of the aircraft and its flight performance.

[Ryaruav]

what are the flights of a supersonic fighter without an airborne radar

[Astra55]

I do not quite understand your question.
And that the plane cannot fly with the radar off?
Why does a pilot need a radar on when flying in a circle, for example?

[A_Lex]

By the way, it is interesting that the group was created precisely in 1991. Why was there no such practice in the USSR - the creation of a special group for demonstration flights?

[starpur]

In the Cuban regiment in the 80s, there was a fourth demonstration squadron. Red rhombus, worked on the MiG23.

[A_Lex]

Quote: starpur

In the Cuban regiment in the 80s, there was a fourth demonstration squadron. Red rhombus, worked on the MiG23.

Oh, that's interesting. Where can you read about her story?

[starpur]

Dima, good evening! I read about the red diamond and the illustrative fourth squadron from A. Yu. Garnaev, "Aerozel-2". And I saw them live in the early 80s, I have a village on the Minsk highway, they passed right over the village from takeoff. Dense rhombus.

[Hexenmeister]

In the second half of the 80s, demonstration flights took place in Zhukovsky on Aviation Day, while there were no tickets, no advertising, everyone who loved aviation came to the bank of the river near the end of the LII strip ... and there everyone showed "aerobatics" , and "heavy" and "civil" and "sports", and there were vertical dances over the river between the barges, and even on the flights of the one that "skillfully" fly, it was breathtaking in full. other countries.

[1976AG]

Quote: A_Lex

By the way, it is interesting that the group was created precisely in 1991. Why was there no such practice in the USSR - the creation of a special group for demonstration flights?

Before the arrival of Gorbachev, we had never demonstrated combat aviation anywhere, so there was no need for aerobatic teams.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

In the USSR, there was no need to promote fighters to the international market.

[Gekki66]

Well, yes, well, yes .... you will not take it, turn off the gas! (c) There was someone to implement the technique. And no ads.

[Piramidon]

Quote: A_Lex

Why was there no such practice in the USSR - the creation of a special group for demonstration flights?

The "Red Five" was created in 1934. (I-16); "Heavenly Hussars" 1989 (Su-25); "Rus" 1987 (L-39 Albatros) There were groups without names on the Yak-15, MiG-15 and MiG-21, MiG 17, MiG-19

[Zaurbek]

2 pieces? Or are there already more?

[The Siberian barber]

.
Plans to transfer the Swifts aviation group to the new MiG-35 fighter were announced back in 2017

......

We are planning to switch to a new aircraft (...) But this no longer depends on us, but on the industry, on the conduct of state tests. Always adopting an aircraft is a long process

What is the "news" about ???

[Ros 56]

That's right, the demonstrative technique must match.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

***
There is only MiG between the past and the future,
It is he who is called life! ...
***

[Piramidon]

Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov

***
There is only MiG between the past and the future,
It is he who is called life! ...
***

[Ryaruav]

they are used to flying on flashes, so let them fly on the most modern flashes for our aviation is it really bad

[Figvam]

and they probably will do without AFAROV
therefore quickly

[Azimuth]

Hmmm, I thought that they would be put on single-engine Su-shki.
Although it is quite natural, especially the Swifts pilots flashed on the set of the production of the MiG-35 either by the Military Acceptance or by Wings.
Apparently the program of state tests of the MiG-35 is completed, this is also good news.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Azimuth

believed that they would be put on single-engine Su-shki

Which ones, Su-9 or Su-17?

[Serge_]

I recently wrote that it is too early to bury the moment 35. It turned out to be a good car. Such a lightweight twin-engine super-maneuverable fighter is needed in the troops. Guys who do not understand this, open your eyes and take a close look at this car.

[Pavel57]

At one time, the training battles of the MiG-29 against the Su-27 showed the superiority of the MiG ...


And the real battles in Africa did not confirm this. (((((

[Bez 310]

Well, at least somewhere they will attach a few unnecessary planes ...

[zwlad]

It's high time to replace it. It was possible not to wait for state tests if the car flies normally.

[Azimuth]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Azimuth

believed that they would be put on single-engine Su-shki

Which ones, Su-9 or Su-17?

I meant another child of Sukhoi.

[Azimuth]

Quote: Pavel57

At one time, the training battles of the MiG-29 against the Su-27 showed the superiority of the MiG ...


And the real battles in Africa did not confirm this. (((((

There were no real battles in Africa. There were our supplies of Su-27s to Ethiopians, and MiG-29s to Eritreans, and there were battles between our and Ukrainian pilot-instructors, who all together had gone through the Soviet school before. The question was about the quality of the pilots - age, experience. Single local pilots who had time to pass more or less tolerable training were not capable of anything. Well, it is worth noting that the Su-27s were in a more advanced modification.