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Vietnamese Soha: Su-75 Checkmate fighter in the Middle East may pose a challenge to Israeli security

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Abroad, they continue to evaluate the presentation, which was recently arranged during MAKS-2021 in the Moscow region and was dedicated to the promising Russian light tactical combat aircraft The Checkmate. The Vietnamese edition of Soha shares its views on the presentation and the aircraft.


The Vietnamese author writes that The Checkmate's Su-75 has great chances to enter the Middle East market. A number of countries in this region are already showing interest in the promising Russian fighter, the basic version of which is distinguished by an extremely low price (in comparison with other 5th generation fighters).

Vietnamese Soha:

The fact that the Su-75 Checkmate may appear in a number of countries in the Middle East is already causing concern in Israel. This fighter jet could pose a serious challenge to Israeli security.

The Vietnamese author points out that today Israel feels its air superiority, thanks to the developed Air Force, including the latest American-made F-35i fighters.

At the same time, when defining a promising Russian fighter jet as a "threat to Israeli security", Soha refers to the Israeli missile weapons specialist Yair Ramati. He suggested that Egypt could become the first country in the Middle East capable of acquiring the Su-75. According to Ramati, the newest Russian fighter jet "sooner or later will arrive in the Middle East, and Israel will have to reckon with this."
From the pages of Soha:

If the sale of The Checkmate goes smoothly, it means that Israel's stance against the sale of the F-35 to countries in the region is now meaningless.

With reference to the Israeli expert who was responsible at one time for the development of the Iron Dome, Israel now has no problems in the air, but over time, the air defense system will have to take into account a new risk factor associated with the possible acquisition of a new generation Russian multi-role fighter by the countries of the region.
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    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 22 July 2021 15: 26
      +14
      Well, as if common truth. You always need to take into account what is there in the neighbor's storehouse.
      1. URAL72
        URAL72 22 July 2021 15: 33
        +4
        What happened? Expressing CONCERN? And I thought it was our strong point. Plagiarists.
        1. skif8013
          skif8013 22 July 2021 15: 50
          +11
          Apparently advertising has gone, if so much is said and written about the 75th.
          1. Incomprehensible
            Incomprehensible 22 July 2021 16: 42
            +6
            Quote: skif8013
            Apparently advertising has gone, if so much is said and written about the 75th.

            Delusional article. This means that the layout of the fighter, by the year 23, the characteristics of which (may) become obsolete, terrifies NATO and Israel, and there is nothing at all about the current models of the Russian Aerospace Forces?
            1. V means B
              V means B 22 July 2021 17: 21
              -3
              The respected person was removed from the language, plus you.
            2. Tusv
              Tusv 22 July 2021 19: 51
              +8
              Quote: Incomprehensible
              Delusional article. This means that the layout of the fighter, by the 23rd year, the characteristics of which (may) become obsolete,

              At the expense of obsolescence. All breakthrough air defense technologies are known, all the flight qualities of stealth aircraft are also known. Although no .. We do not know the properties of the Su-57 with the second stage dvigun. Maybe I'm wrong, but in two years none of the "fifth generation" will grow old
              1. atalef
                atalef 22 July 2021 19: 51
                0
                Quote: Tusv
                I may be wrong, but in two years none of the "fifth generation" will grow old

                this is not a sausage - like a delay.
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv 22 July 2021 19: 53
                  0
                  Quote: atalef
                  this is not a sausage - like a delay.

                  To the point
              2. Ivanoff_Ivanoff
                Ivanoff_Ivanoff 23 July 2021 00: 44
                +1
                Quote: Tusv
                in two years none of the "fifth generation" will grow old

                what two years are you talking about? Only the first flight is scheduled in two years. The first delivery to customers (according to the announced plans, if nothing happens, as often happens in Russia) should take place at the end of 2026 - i.e. in at least 5 years.
        2. Babay Atasovich
          Babay Atasovich 22 July 2021 15: 52
          +5
          Israel now has no problems in the air, but over time, the air defense system will have to take into account a new risk factor
          because of these "no problems" they jump out of the mountains for a couple of seconds to launch missiles in Syria ??? Or lost their fu-35 invisibility ?! laughing American Jews poured raw meat into Israeli Jews and claim that if the TV shows 2 colors, then it is not b / w, but color !!! laughing
          1. KCA
            KCA 22 July 2021 16: 58
            +4
            In fact, b / w TVs showed not 2 colors, but 16000000 shades of gray, although no, even more, they were analog
            1. Babay Atasovich
              Babay Atasovich 22 July 2021 17: 03
              -1
              Gray - a collection of what colors?
              1. NIKN
                NIKN 22 July 2021 17: 39
                +5
                Quote: Babay Atasovich
                Gray - a collection of what colors?

                It depends on how you set it up, it can show green laughing
                1. Babay Atasovich
                  Babay Atasovich 22 July 2021 18: 06
                  +1
                  -Moisha! Your wife greedy woman!
                  -And yours??!!
                  -.......but anyway! laughing
                2. KCA
                  KCA 22 July 2021 18: 21
                  +3
                  No, I don’t want the gradation of green, I saw enough in 88-91
                  1. Eragon
                    Eragon 23 July 2021 09: 04
                    0
                    Quote: KCA
                    No, I don’t want the gradation of green, I saw enough in 88-91

                    The Soviet monitor hiccuped, with DVK-3, for example?
                    1. KCA
                      KCA 23 July 2021 09: 10
                      +1
                      No, from Pravets-16, the Bulgarian clone of the IBM-PC, then even the XT
              2. KCA
                KCA 22 July 2021 18: 19
                0
                What colors are white? And blue? What about red? Buy an inkjet with 4 inkwells and experiment, if in physics it is like
                1. Babay Atasovich
                  Babay Atasovich 22 July 2021 18: 42
                  +1
                  Red-blue-yellow is the base from which various color schemes are derived. White and black (in nature, the pure does not exist) are the basis. tongue the aggregate of all colors gives black, the aggregate of the colors of light - white light!
                  - I told you, Izya, that I sold not black and white, but a color TV! laughing
                  1. KCA
                    KCA 22 July 2021 18: 54
                    -1
                    Pure black color - no reflection of the entire spectrum, pure white - reflection of the entire spectrum, and the number of gradations of any color well PPC is as much, on a computer from the figure 16kk, on an analogue an order of magnitude more
                    1. Babay Atasovich
                      Babay Atasovich 22 July 2021 19: 16
                      -2
                      You would try to blow it to Malevich and Picasso !!! I closed my eyes and on those pure black color !!! good laughing
              3. Zhan
                Zhan 22 July 2021 21: 20
                +1
                Quote: Babay Atasovich
                Gray - a collection of what colors?

                hi Earrings! What color are you with ?! laughing You don't need to hit your face, I'm just kidding .. laughing
          2. Alex777
            Alex777 22 July 2021 17: 04
            +4
            Even if Egypt buys the Su-75, there will be no need to worry about Israel. In today's world, the Arabs will never be at war with Israel.
            1. Babay Atasovich
              Babay Atasovich 22 July 2021 17: 09
              +5
              At the expense of the Egyptians and Arabs, I am doubtful, but in the direction of Iran and especially Erdogan's Turkey, I would advise to look. Yes
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 22 July 2021 17: 14
                +2
                What are the problems with Iran? We are paid and we do not supply. wink
                Turkey is not a problem at all. No Erdogan, no problem. MOSSAD has this easy and reliable.
                bully
                1. Babay Atasovich
                  Babay Atasovich 22 July 2021 17: 24
                  -1
                  The Russian Federation does not have it for sure, for Israel, Erdogan's ambitions are dangerous for all its small intestines - it may take a risk. Well, and Iran is a matter of principle along the way! laughing
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 22 July 2021 17: 27
                    0
                    for Israel, Erdogan's ambitions are dangerous for all its small intestines - it may take a risk.

                    Erdogan can speak towards Israel, but I doubt that he can take anything serious. In general, all the insolence of Turkey is in Erdogan.
                    If it does not exist, there will be no present Turkey.
                    Iran - yes, that is. But it was possible to come to an agreement about it before, and now, if you wish, you can. IMHO. hi
                    1. Babay Atasovich
                      Babay Atasovich 22 July 2021 17: 45
                      0
                      The ambassador told Erdogan a joke about "Givi, whose friend are you, or a bear?" He did not laugh, but smiled slyly. The fox is still the one, but he can close his eyes and wave his hands "will be," he is capable of. Do not write off the accounts.
                  2. atalef
                    atalef 22 July 2021 18: 30
                    0
                    Quote: Babay Atasovich
                    The Russian Federation does not have it for sure, for Israel, Erdogan's ambitions are dangerous for all its small intestines - it may take a risk

                    a week ago

                    40-minute telephone conversation between Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his Israeli counterpart Yitzhak Herzog bwas more than an exchange of greetings and wishes on the election to the post of the new president of Israel... Erdogan is not a fan of small talk, and when they announced that their conversation was about strengthening relations between the two countries, Erdogan had specific things in mind.

                    Already at the end of December 2020, information leaked from his office about the intention to appoint a new ambassador to Israel, and there were even talks about March 2021, when the ambassador arrives in Israel. The candidate at that time was Ufuk Ulutash, who was chairman of the SETA Research Institute and even studied at the Hebrew University. But then the Israeli Foreign Ministry made it clear to Turkey that Ulutash was "unacceptable to Israel" because of the anti-Israel position he had expressed in the past.

                    Turkey took note of this and froze the appointment, and because of the elections in Israel, it decided to postpone the arrival date of the new ambassador. It is possible that now, against the background of "new trends" in relations between the countries (as Turkish commentators say), the Turkish ambassador will finally be able to come.
                    1. Alex777
                      Alex777 22 July 2021 19: 02
                      -1
                      Sometimes I'm even ready to agree with you. wink
                    2. Babay Atasovich
                      Babay Atasovich 22 July 2021 19: 37
                      -1
                      In-in! The fox is still the same! fellow
                    3. Alex777
                      Alex777 22 July 2021 20: 12
                      -1
                      For the cons for all messages, a special thank you!
                      I won't bother you anymore. laughing
                      1. atalef
                        atalef 22 July 2021 20: 15
                        +1
                        Quote: Alex777
                        For the cons for all messages, a special thank you!
                        I won't bother you anymore. laughing

                        Are you talking to me ? you laugh. I never minus any plus (for me it is generally purple).
                      2. Alex777
                        Alex777 22 July 2021 20: 16
                        0
                        For some time now, too. smile
                        So I have a secret admirer.
                        May God grant him health and happiness!

                        Sometimes I'm even ready to agree with you. wink

                        The message was personal, therefore, it was a sinful thing to think about you. hi
                      3. atalef
                        atalef 22 July 2021 20: 33
                        0
                        Quote: Alex777
                        a sinful deed, I thought at you.

                        request
                        Let me tell you one secret - with a negative rating, you theoretically can’t positive or negative.
                        although I did not play the plus sign, even being in marshal's shoulder straps laughing
                        there were times like this in
                      4. Alex777
                        Alex777 22 July 2021 20: 42
                        0
                        with a negative rating, you theoretically can not even plus or minus.

                        That's it! Thanks for the news! good
            2. ccsr
              ccsr 22 July 2021 18: 48
              -1
              Quote: Alex777
              In today's world, the Arabs will never be at war with Israel.

              Yes, there is such a point of view in the Arab world that it is easier to change the composition of Israel in favor of the Arabs, and then they will get a governed country, where Muslims will take leading positions on legal rights. Knowing the relative discipline of Muslims in front of their religious leaders, and the Jews do not care even when choosing the last government for themselves, we can assume that this is not such an unrealizable idea. But by and large it is not profitable for us - let them settle scores among themselves more than they will give dyor in an unfavorable situation.
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 22 July 2021 19: 01
                +1
                So we have a common opinion that the Su-75 is not a threat to Israel. wink
                1. ccsr
                  ccsr 22 July 2021 19: 23
                  +3
                  Quote: Alex777
                  So we have a common opinion that the Su-75 is not a threat to Israel.

                  They will inflate this threat, but by and large, this aircraft will not really change the balance of power in the Middle East. But all this is still a fortune-telling - there is no plane yet, so we will talk about it when it appears in at least one of the countries of this region.
                2. Babay Atasovich
                  Babay Atasovich 22 July 2021 19: 40
                  +2
                  Quote: Alex777
                  So we have a common opinion that the Su-75 is not a threat to Israel. wink

                  How can Wishlist be a threat? ..
      2. spirit
        spirit 22 July 2021 15: 50
        +3
        Yes, it will be at least 6-8 years! As the arguments were given in a parallel article, no one in their right mind will buy it first (too big a risk of getting into a puddle) Until it shows itself as a good product on the domestic market. terminator, not really who in the world buys it, since our Ministry of Defense was not eager to acquire it: So the gentlemen from Israel can sleep peacefully for another 10 years! hi
        1. Cat Alexandrovich
          Cat Alexandrovich 22 July 2021 16: 07
          0
          Yes, these Vietnamese are sitting high, looking far away! Looking around with a keen narrow eye all world politics for a dozen years ahead! Ay, well done! Futurists!
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 22 July 2021 19: 25
            +1
            Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
            Yes, these Vietnamese are sitting high, looking far away!

            Yes, they read some of our forum or online magazine, translate the opinion of some figure, I will not give names, and then make stuffing in themselves. So the legs of this "opinion" can grow out of our country.
        2. lopvlad
          lopvlad 22 July 2021 16: 26
          +4
          Quote: spirit
          Yes, it will be at least 6-8 years from now!


          within 5 years it will go into series and it will be produced in large quantities because the price rules and to have a 5th generation aircraft in service for a penny while being sold without political burden (this is how the United States sells its F-35s) only a madman will not want.
          The Su-75 will become a kind of MIG-21 of the 21st century only, a cheap but high-quality 5th generation aircraft that the vast majority of countries can afford.
          1. spirit
            spirit 22 July 2021 16: 59
            +3
            Well, God forbid, if it be so!
            Only now it makes no sense to talk about it. Lockheed also promised tasty prices for 35 in comparison with the raptor, but in the end the price was brought down only after mass production and pushing on them in Congress and Trump. And the political alignment can radically change during this time (that who were friends will become enemies and vice versa) and this will determine who and how much can hypothetically buy this aircraft. hi
          2. shahor
            shahor 22 July 2021 19: 36
            0
            Quote: lopvlad
            5th generation aircraft for a penny

            Aircraft of the 5th generation do not exist for a penny. There are planes for pennies. And we will find out the cost when the plane will be. And when the plane will be, we will recognize by the tremors of the earth with the epicenter in Israel, shaking with fear. In time, I think, will coincide with the coming of the Messiah.
            1. lopvlad
              lopvlad 22 July 2021 20: 05
              -3
              Quote: shahor
              And we will find out the cost when the plane will be.


              it has already been announced and will be in the range of $ 25-30 million, while the cost of the F-35 in the cheapest configuration is under $ 80 million.
              1. atalef
                atalef 22 July 2021 20: 08
                +4
                Quote: lopvlad
                she has already been voiced and will be in the range of 25-30 million

                do you live in a parallel universe?
        3. KCA
          KCA 22 July 2021 17: 02
          +1
          The Terminator was just bought before it was put into production and into service, it is still not in service, the T-90s appeared in the Russian army only after they were delivered to India, like the SU-30, the Pantsiri also left for the Middle East long before their appearance in the Russian army
          1. spirit
            spirit 22 July 2021 17: 13
            +1
            That's true. Only 90 and drying were the modernization of time-tested pieces of equipment. And here is a completely new device! It's like a conditional zumvolt to be immediately exported! An innovative, made from scratch, but absolutely unpredictable result at the output. There are big risks from this.
            1. venik
              venik 22 July 2021 18: 28
              +4
              Quote: spirit
              It's like a conditional zumvolt to be exported immediately! An innovative, made from scratch, but absolutely not predicted result at the output.

              =======
              The difference is that "Zamvolt" was designed "from scratch", and the new "drying" (I do not know, the Su-75 will be called it, or something else?), seems to have been made with the widest use of already well-developed technologies! There it looks like not only the engine, but also the radar, electronic warfare, OELS, radio-absorbing coverage of the warning system, communications, control systems, etc. - everything is taken from the Su-57, Su-35, MiG-35 and other models!
              This is the only way to reduce the cost and speed up the development and construction of cars as much as possible!
              hi
              1. atalef
                atalef 22 July 2021 18: 39
                -1
                Quote: venik
                It looks like not only the engine, but also radar, electronic warfare, OELS, radio-absorbing coverage of the warning system, communications, control systems, etc. - everything is taken from the Su-57, Su-35, MiG-35 and other models!


                then she fell in love. wink
                1. venik
                  venik 22 July 2021 19: 53
                  0
                  Quote: atalef
                  Quote: venik
                  It looks like not only the engine, but also radar, electronic warfare, OELS, radio-absorbing coverage of the warning system, communications, control systems, etc. - everything is taken from the Su-57, Su-35, MiG-35 and other models!


                  then she fell in love. wink

                  ===========
                  What about? In my opinion - it turned out very BAD! Auto RU - hi
                  PS By the way, these are the samples that are often the BEST "samples of their breed" !!!
                  PPS I have a cat at home ("Persian") ... Sometimes it seems that some "smart guys" would do well to learn from him! (Sorry! I didn't mean you! (This, so - "by the way")
              2. Ivanoff_Ivanoff
                Ivanoff_Ivanoff 23 July 2021 02: 03
                0
                Quote: venik
                the new "drying" (I do not know, the Su-75 will be called it, or something else?), seems to have been made with the widest use of already well-developed technologies!

                it cannot be made using widely developed technologies. Because there are none of them, worked out. Have we already released a large series of Su-57? Have you flown around, exploited in combat units, corrected deficiencies? This was not the case. We can talk about borrowed solutions... The LFI is just assembled from "spare parts" of the Su-57, perhaps the engine will only be taken from the Su-35. The radar is a half-cut Squirrel; the Su family did not have an AFAR radar on the Su family until the 57th. The rest of the aviation is also not with the Su-35/30 (as far as can be judged from the photo). Parts of the glider - from the Su-57, the tail assembly is generally almost seamless. The matryoshka logistics system, an analogue of the American one for the F-35, is generally a novelty for us, has never been used before. Where did you find the used technology? They have yet to be worked out. Now, if the Su-57 was launched into the series five years earlier, then I would agree with you.
                1. venik
                  venik 23 July 2021 10: 02
                  0
                  Quote: Ivanoff_Ivanoff
                  Because there are none of them, worked out. Have we already released a large series of Su-57? Have you flown around, exploited in combat units, corrected deficiencies? This was not the case. We can talk about borrowed solutions. The LFI is just assembled from "spare parts" of the Su-57, perhaps the engine will only be taken from the Su-35. The radar is a half-cut Squirrel; the Su family did not have an AFAR radar on the Su family until the 57th.

                  ========
                  Forgive me, for God's sake! I didn’t know that you are an aircraft designer and took part in the development of the PAK-FA program!
                  Sorry again!
                  By the way, the question is, how to a Specialist - how much did the development of the F-35 cost? I heard that absolutely EVERYTHING there was developed from "0"?
                  lol bully
            2. KCA
              KCA 22 July 2021 18: 29
              -1
              None of the commander of the Russian Navy will allow the construction of a Zumvolt, it will simply be imprisoned, a destroyer made of plywood, one laugh, you can drown from an AK-47 motor boat, or critically damage it
          2. Ivanoff_Ivanoff
            Ivanoff_Ivanoff 23 July 2021 01: 53
            -3
            Quote: KCA
            The Terminator was just bought before it was put into production and into service, it is still not in service

            The Terminator entered service in May 2018. The fact that it was not mass-produced (apart from a small batch for Kazakhstan) is a fact.
            Quote: KCA
            T-90s appeared in the Russian army only after their delivery to India

            Where do you get this information from? The first tanks were delivered to India in 2001. By that time, the RF Armed Forces had more than 120 T-90A tanks (serial production started in 1992)
      3. xorek
        xorek 22 July 2021 18: 57
        -7
        The fact that the Su-75 Checkmate may appear in a number of countries in the Middle East is already causing concern in Israel. This fighter jet could pose a serious challenge to Israeli security.

        Eh Aaron and your fellow tribesmen, you have not understood anything with your ambition and boasting ..
        After all, we can deliver rockets, if you continue to shit on the quiet further on to Russia .. Kedmi listened to yours today, the old Jew, I think, spoke frankly about everything .. So think about it!
  2. sidoroff
    sidoroff 22 July 2021 15: 26
    -8
    gentlemen! Israeli security barely stopped trembling from the Iranian wunderwafele "Conqueror (Qaher) -313", and then a new
    the one-piece "Shah and Checkmate" was rolled out.
    1. V means B
      V means B 22 July 2021 17: 25
      -7
      Well, why did you try so disrespectfully "all-glued" pioneers, did smile
  3. Teador
    Teador 22 July 2021 15: 27
    +10
    Well, if it has already come to this, then soon there will be an article that this plane is a challenge for aliens
    1. venik
      venik 22 July 2021 15: 38
      +5
      Quote: Teador
      Well, if it has already come to this, then soon there will be an article that this plane is a challenge for aliens

      =======
      "Minus", as I believe: "comrades" from Israel and Ukraine .....
      Well, it happens ..... What can you do? request Well, they are THIS .... request
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      2. Grits
        Grits 22 July 2021 17: 34
        0
        Quote: venik
        "Minus", as I believe: "comrades" from Israel and Ukraine .....

        These are the very aliens.
        1. venik
          venik 22 July 2021 19: 59
          -3
          Quote: Gritsa
          These are the very aliens.

          ======
          Alexander! God bless them! Let the "minus"! Maybe this puzzles life is easier this way .... Well, "sick" people! What to take from them?
  4. Alexey Stepanov
    Alexey Stepanov 22 July 2021 15: 32
    +10
    Maybe you need to do it first?
    Otherwise it looks more and more like carving the skin of an unkilled bear.
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  6. rocket757
    rocket757 22 July 2021 15: 39
    +6
    Vietnamese Soha: Su-75 Checkmate fighter in the Middle East may pose a challenge to Israeli security
    ... Shaw for nonsense? One might think that caramults were supplied to the local warriors, and not a serious, effective weapon.
    NOT IN A HORSE / CAMEL / BARAN FOOD !!!
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 22 July 2021 15: 44
      -1
      Well, yes. Once again, they decided to measure themselves through a proxy ... And any provocation between Russia and Israel will lead to a global confrontation. And the parties understand this well ..
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 July 2021 15: 57
        0
        Each of them has enough of their own concerns ... specific, important ones that cannot be put on the back burner.
      2. ultra
        ultra 22 July 2021 17: 49
        -1
        Are you naive? Do you think the West is harnessed to Israel?
        1. atalef
          atalef 22 July 2021 18: 32
          +1
          Quote: ultra
          Are you naive? Do you think the West is harnessed to Israel?

          you are even more naive. do you think Russia will attack Israel?
          1. ultra
            ultra 22 July 2021 18: 37
            0
            And where did I write what will attack? wassat
            1. atalef
              atalef 22 July 2021 19: 33
              +1
              Quote: ultra
              And where did I write what will attack? wassat

              then what did you want to say?
              1. ultra
                ultra 22 July 2021 19: 54
                -3
                I would translate you into Hebrew, but I do not speak. laughing
                1. atalef
                  atalef 22 July 2021 19: 57
                  +2
                  Quote: ultra
                  I would translate you into Hebrew, but I do not speak. laughing

                  why ? didn’t finish the academy?
                  well, you can in English. - the same no? well, at worst wink ... I also speak Russian at the level of my native laughing
                  1. ultra
                    ultra 22 July 2021 20: 37
                    -4
                    No, you don't speak Russian. laughing
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 22 July 2021 20: 44
                      +1
                      Quote: ultra
                      No, you don't speak Russian.

                      Quote: ultra
                      but in English right now, everyone can, Yandex-translator to help.

                      Well, what was the matter for? Shine with intelligence.
                      1. ultra
                        ultra 22 July 2021 20: 48
                        -2
                        Che, prove Fermat's theorem? laughing
                      2. atalef
                        atalef 22 July 2021 20: 50
                        -1
                        Quote: ultra
                        Che, prove Fermat's theorem? laughing

                  2. ultra
                    ultra 22 July 2021 20: 40
                    0
                    In English right now, everyone can, Yandex-translator to help. laughing
  7. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 22 July 2021 15: 47
    +1
    And which of the neighbors is able to buy them and is not on the political and financial hook of Britain and the United States?
  8. Gardamir
    Gardamir 22 July 2021 15: 51
    0
    Vietnamese Soha
    and in China Sohu. I wonder how it translates.
  9. Brother
    Brother 22 July 2021 15: 55
    +4
    Hmm ... before these "fighters" just fly, and even for sale "over the hill" will take 10-15 years ...
    By that time, they will be hopelessly outdated. If they ever fly ...
    1. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 22 July 2021 16: 59
      0
      Quote: Breard
      Hmm ... before these "fighters" just fly, and even for sale "over the hill" will take 10-15 years ...
      By that time, they will be hopelessly outdated. If they ever fly ...

      The flight will definitely be much faster. You are not very objective.

      Sukhoi is now actively developing, launching into series, modernizing several aircraft models.
      Those. there are ready-made solutions, components, avionics, engines which, with a certain modification, can be used in this fighter.

      The issue with the engine will probably be like on su57, at first there will be some version of the "first series" and tests, fine-tuning can take quite a long time.

      But the first takeoff and landing, IMHO, this or the beginning of next year will be.

      Judging by the totality of indirect factors, including the PR campaign carried out, very long before the planned launch into the series, such a company is absolutely ineffective.
      The planned launch in the series is likely to be three years, with the traditional shift to the right by two years. Those. in five years at MAKS it will be possible to order an aircraft for production and purchase.
  10. Undecim
    Undecim 22 July 2021 15: 56
    +11
    The Vietnamese edition of Soha shares its views on the presentation and the aircraft.

    The considerations of the Vietnamese "Soha" are childish. When Damantsev bursts out with his thoughts - that will be "shock and awe." Abbreviations alone are enough for a couple of articles.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 22 July 2021 16: 42
      0
      A promising, unobtrusive, all-weather, AFAR 324 / B-"Lynx" carrying, promisingly armed with a973 / LGBT hypersonic anti-tank missile system aXNUMX / LGBT for work on surface targets, the Shesh Besh aircraft.
  11. VTR-295
    VTR-295 22 July 2021 16: 11
    -3
    I will be very surprised if this aircraft will be ready for the series earlier than in 10 years.
    1. PN
      PN 22 July 2021 16: 21
      +1
      A couple of weeks ago, we heard very little about him, so we do not know about the degree of readiness of this project. Don't be surprised if it takes off soon. We will wait.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 22 July 2021 18: 03
        0
        Quote: PN
        A couple of weeks ago, we heard very little about him, so we do not know about the degree of readiness of this project. Don't be surprised if it takes off soon. We will wait.

        As long as possible, tell us about those projects (since 2000) that have turned from sketches into mass production with a high (in terms of quantity) output of finished products ...
        1. PN
          PN 22 July 2021 19: 38
          0
          No, I won't. Not because I'm greedy, but because I don't keep my finger on the pulse and don't know much.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 22 July 2021 17: 05
      +5
      Quote: VTR-295
      I will be very surprised if this aircraft will be ready for the series earlier than in 10 years.

      Quote: PN
      Don't be surprised if it takes off soon.

      Under television cameras, the president of the UAC promised Putin that the car would fly in 2 years. It seems to me that 70% of it consists of components for the Su-57. We are only waiting for the "product 30" and the control system for it. The rest is already in metal and flies on the Su-57.
      AHA.
      1. V means B
        V means B 22 July 2021 17: 30
        0
        Yes Yes. No one has ever deceived or deceived President Putin.
      2. atalef
        atalef 22 July 2021 18: 33
        +1
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        Under television cameras, the president of the UAC promised Putin that the car would fly in 2 years.

        Either the shah dies, or the donkey dies.
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 22 July 2021 20: 59
          -5
          Quote: atalef
          Either the shah dies, or the donkey dies.

          The mouse is flying! Don't you remember well the parable about Nasruddin? There the term was 20 (!) Years, not 2 years! Therefore, the "donkey" (GOD will give) will fly in 2 years. And Nasreddin and Shah will also be alive ...
          So get ready ... Vaughn, the "Viet Cong" seriously believe that the CRICON will appear among the Arabs in the BV. So, prepare your "SHELEZYAK Dome" to repel responses to ground targets ... after the raid on Hamas and other Arab objects ... from the airspace of a neighboring state .... Well, as usual you do - out of sly and from the back...
          AHA.
          1. atalef
            atalef 22 July 2021 21: 08
            -1
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            The mouse is flying! Don't you remember well the parable about Nasruddin? There the term was 20 (!)

            Well ?
            request
            ngu, in the first place, NONE NOR SECOND WILL EXPRESSLY LAST 20 YEARS, AND SECONDLY - the main meaning in the parable,
            Alexander, you are losing your former lightness.
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            Therefore, the "donkey" (GOD will give) will fly in 2 years

            do not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs or fried eggs (you understand what I mean) wink
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            So get ready

            why brother?
            In general, we are always ready, and the former pioneers - twice.

            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            ..Von, the "Viet Cong" seriously believe that the CRIKUN will appear among the Arabs in the BV

            Well, the Vietnamese ek are still those, by the way they are different Arabs. you already specify about whom it is.
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            So, prepare your "SHELEZYAK Dome" to repel responses to ground targets.

            Alexander, you're a military man. You have a serious VUS - and you behave like a child.
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            .from the airspace of a neighboring state ...

            we have many contiguous - who are we talking about? Strategist hi
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            Well, as usual you do - from the sly and from the back ...
            AHA.

            and only you are on your submarine head-on and directly.
            Maybe that's why he is retired?
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 22 July 2021 21: 30
              -1
              Quote: atalef
              Alexander, you are losing your former lightness.

              Apparently getting old ...
              Quote: atalef
              In general, we are always ready
              Really !? And if IRI makes its own bomb and hangs it on the STEALTH SCREAM !? Or worse ... So, don't excuse yourself like that RAVEN ... peck guano ...
              Quote: atalef
              Arabs they are different. you already specify about whom it is.
              And you very few people have stuck on corns? Therefore - not a test!
              Quote: atalef
              we have many contiguous - who are we talking about? Strategist
              About strikes on the territory of the SAR from Lebanese airspace ... at least ... You can remember our Il-20 ...
              A strategist is not a strategist, but he graduated from all universities with honors ... ASH courses too ...
              Quote: atalef
              and only you are on your submarine head-on and directly.
              ... I am amazed at the knowledge of the tactics of the submarine forces of the Russian Navy !!! laughing
              Quote: atalef
              Maybe that's why he is retired?
              Namesake, for 5 years I was personally extended by the fleet lump, because at that time there was no one to replace ... And at 65, you can sit on retirement ... young people have already grown up.
              So, let's not be clever in front of each other, okay?
              hi
              1. atalef
                atalef 22 July 2021 21: 40
                0
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                Apparently getting old ...

                like all of us
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                Really !? And if Iran makes its bomb

                will do we will talk, and so - if grandmother .. well, then you know
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                and hang it on the STEALTH SCREAM !?

                you are a strange alexander - no yab in Iran. there is no screamer - and you already What if?
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                So, do not renounce, like that CROW ... peck guano

                Alexander - I understand you yourself and, in general, everyone who, from your side, considers them to be incalculable.
                Everything is relevant in the opposite direction.
                do not renounce, you have already experienced the collapse of the USSR, who said that this ended?

                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                And you very few people have stuck on corns? Therefore - not a test!

                just like you - therefore credit.
                specifics are important.

                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                About strikes on the territory of the SAR from Lebanese airspace.

                Alexander . I would understand if Vitaly carried this game - well, you're a military man. analyze and do not write garbage. It should be a shame. Staff officer. not some ETR commander

                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                A strategist is not a strategist, but he graduated from all universities with honors ... ASH courses too.

                this is what annoys me.
                if the level is that - then why wonder what is in the country.
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                I am amazed at the knowledge of the tactics of the submarine forces of the Russian Navy !!!

                well, you were not the only one associated with the sub-fleet
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                Namesake, I have been personally extended the service life by the fleet lump for 5 years,

                until it says nothing
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                So, let's not be clever in front of each other, okay?

                Begin with yourself.
                slogans are thrown by all the masters. but on the specifics you have a failure.
                I'm sorry hi
                1. Boa kaa
                  Boa kaa 22 July 2021 22: 06
                  -3
                  Quote: atalef
                  well, you were not the only one associated with the sub-fleet

                  With the submarine - was associated ... With the "subflot" - this is the lot (you forgive me for being frank!) Only "exiled by God" ...
                  Thanks to the Father of Nations: he sheltered your tribe on the territory of Palestine under the British mandate. But the "cuckoos" were all pushed out of the nest ... that is your nature ...
                  You, of course, are smarter than everyone, which is why you think that
                  and only you are on your submarine head-on and directly.

                  It remains only to regret the captri, who has reached such a "tactical" insanity ...
                  Don't thank, don't. bully
                  Peace to your home, banished by God!
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 22 July 2021 22: 14
                    0
                    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                    With the submarine - was associated ... With the "subflot" - this is the lot (you forgive me for being frank!) Only "exiled by God" ...

                    forgive my Russian, 30 years have passed since I left, and since my departure from Gadzhievo - 42

                    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                    Thanks to the Father of Nations: he sheltered your tribe on the territory of Palestine under the British mandate

                    yes, education is definitely not right. and after all red diplomas are kind of like
                    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                    ... But the "cuckoos" were all pushed out of the nest ... that is your nature ...

                    exactly. look at the number of Nobel laureates
                    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                    It remains only to regret the captri, who has reached such a "tactical" insanity ...
                    Don't thank, don't

                    I do not thank
                    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                    Peace to your home, banished by God!

                    God is capitalized.
                    Envy silently.
                    silence is gold hi
    3. ultra
      ultra 22 July 2021 18: 38
      -1
      Quote: VTR-295
      I will be very surprised if this plane is ready.

      And I will be surprised that it will not be ready. wassat
      1. atalef
        atalef 22 July 2021 18: 45
        -2
        Quote: ultra
        And I will be surprised that it will not be ready.

        1. ultra
          ultra 22 July 2021 19: 53
          +1
          Do not worry so much about us. laughing
          1. atalef
            atalef 22 July 2021 19: 55
            -2
            Quote: ultra
            Do not worry so much about us. laughing

            this is her, this is him
            1. ultra
              ultra 22 July 2021 20: 38
              0
              Nah, it's you and your fellow tribesmen. laughing
              1. atalef
                atalef 22 July 2021 20: 45
                -3
                Quote: ultra
                Nah, it's you and your fellow tribesmen.

                Do not flatter yourself lol
                1. ultra
                  ultra 22 July 2021 20: 49
                  -2
                  No, there is no flattery, this is a statement of fact. wassat
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 22 July 2021 20: 52
                    0
                    Quote: ultra
                    No, there is no flattery, this is a statement of fact. wassat

                    misha,
                    be easier, you look and people reach out to you wink
  12. Karsifar
    Karsifar 22 July 2021 16: 33
    0
    "... the first country in the Middle East capable of acquiring the Su-75 could be Egypt ..." in addition to the availability of modern technology, it would be nice to be able to fight. Egypt already had Soviet equipment, and a very decent one, the Israelis destroyed everything in 6 days.
    1. atalef
      atalef 22 July 2021 19: 34
      -1
      Quote: Karsifar
      the first country in the Middle East, which is able to acquire the Su-75, could be Egypt

      interesting . does egypt know about it?
  13. jeka424
    jeka424 22 July 2021 16: 42
    0
    Israel does not count with-300 raids continue and this duck will prevent them
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 22 July 2021 17: 20
      -6
      Does Syria have an S-300?
      1. atalef
        atalef 22 July 2021 18: 34
        +1
        Quote: Roma-1977
        Does Syria have an S-300?

        of course.
        1. Roma 1977
          Roma 1977 22 July 2021 18: 42
          +1
          And, this is why Israeli planes do not enter the airspace of the SAR, making launches from the territory of Lebanon.
          1. atalef
            atalef 22 July 2021 18: 47
            0
            Quote: Roma-1977
            And, this is why Israeli planes do not enter the airspace of the SAR, making launches from the territory of Lebanon.

            Seriously ? Look where Alepo is. Unless, of course, there was no deuce in geography laughing
            1. Roma 1977
              Roma 1977 22 July 2021 19: 52
              0
              190 km from Lebanon, 150 km from the sea. Nothing is impossible.
    2. Sergey Kulikov_3
      Sergey Kulikov_3 22 July 2021 17: 21
      -2
      Has Israel already been hit with 120 cruise missiles? Was such a blow to Syria, why is Israel worse? The world is changing, you should not rely on the Americans. I’m even wondering how many mounts are there from Israel to Iran on the map?
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 22 July 2021 17: 26
        +2
        You are definitely interested ..
        The strike will be on Iran, with the participation of the Alliance Armed Forces. And it's not a fact that this will not lead to a regime change ..
        1. Sergey Kulikov_3
          Sergey Kulikov_3 22 July 2021 17: 30
          -4
          Whom are you going to change for whom, peacemaking-democratic you are ours?
        2. ultra
          ultra 22 July 2021 17: 51
          -7
          I am wondering how Israel will survive being hit by Iranian missiles with nuclear warheads.
  14. reserve
    reserve 22 July 2021 17: 25
    0
    Did not take off and already became. Romance and love of fantasy. Ilyich's light bulb was created in 1820 and he was told in 1958 by Emmet Wiley and Elmer Friedrich that they WILL MAKE a halogen. So Ilyich would not have believed in fantasy. And then they give a fairy tale)
    And those that Galagenku made it a fait accompli, and here the promise is like 2000 armature) China does and says. Fact
  15. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 22 July 2021 17: 56
    -1
    Vietnamese Soha: Su-75 Checkmate fighter in the Middle East may pose a challenge to Israeli security

    Strange opinion. Damn burnt. “YotaPhone” did not become a competitor for “iPhone” ... No. And MS did not become a replacement for Boeing and Airbus ... No. But you never know other examples?
    Here with the Su-57 they can not decide in any way. It is not known when "Kuznetsov" will leave and where it will take the planes, and the Vietnamese Soha decided to determine the fate and trends of Israeli security.
    Another way to challenge Israeli security is to have a heart-to-heart talk with Iran. There is both money and a desire to answer. Moreover, for this you do not have to wait for 2027, which is unknown what will bring.
    The road is a spoonful to dinner, and the way to the heart of intractable "partners" lies through the wallets of their enemies loyal to Russia.
  16. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 22 July 2021 18: 39
    +6
    In the hands of the Arabs, nothing can become a problem for Israel, whatever they have not been given already.
    1. xorek
      xorek 22 July 2021 18: 58
      -8
      Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
      In the hands of the Arabs, nothing can become a problem for Israel, whatever they have not been given already.

      Are you sure about that ? Bragging again .. well well
  17. Ros 56
    Ros 56 22 July 2021 18: 58
    0
    So what? We are somehow absolutely lilac from this, we will earn money and let Israel have a headache.
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 22 July 2021 19: 36
      -2
      Quote: Ros 56
      Israel's headache.

      Israel always hurts in advance, but then it hurts for others.
      The entire article is written with reference to the Israeli missile specialist Yair Ramati.
      So he writes:
      “Why is this plane so attractive? There are countries that are experiencing difficulties in acquiring the F-35 or are excluded from the list by the US Department of State because they do not meet the political conditions, while the new Russian fighters will be significantly cheaper than the F-35. Russians claim that each of them is worth less than $ 30 million ».
      Some countries can also buy the Su-75, and then install western avionics - as India is doing on a Sukhoi Su-30 fighter with equipment from the American F-15.
      (and some will not be given and the problem will resolve by itself)
      Currently, the Israeli Air Force has little difficulty in air-to-air combat, but the country's air defense system must still ensure that that it will be able to handle a new type of aircraft in the future.
      On the other hand, the challenge posed by the new Russian stealth fighter will give the Israeli defense industry the opportunity to develop new types of optoelectronic sensors and counter-radars.
      Since Russian aircraft are sold in several markets around the world, Israel may also export technologies of confrontation.
  18. Mustached Kok
    Mustached Kok 22 July 2021 19: 51
    +3
    It's a strange article, considering that the plane is still not there. And there won't be the next 5 years (at best). During this time, the same Israel will be able to simply increase the number of air defense stations, taking into account the size of the country, this will lead to the fact that the plane will be detected with a fairly high chance. And in general - an airplane is a good thing, but without a pilot it's just an expensive pile of iron. And with the qualifications of pilots, even we have problems emerging, what can we say about such Israel's neighbors as Syria or Egypt.
  19. Maks1995
    Maks1995 22 July 2021 20: 52
    0
    Ha. Vietnamese. Experts are direct ...

    The 3rd anniversary of PR has begun ...
  20. Vasya Santa
    Vasya Santa 22 July 2021 21: 10
    +1
    Yeah)) in 20 years ..)))
  21. silver_roman
    silver_roman 22 July 2021 22: 44
    +2
    It doesn't matter at all what the same Egyptians will have: su-75, su-57, f-22 ... whatever. Jews have what the Egyptians or Arabs will never have: high-class aircraft flying skills, and not just aircraft. The Jews have one of the largest raids. And take the same Saudis: they are simply stuffed with modern amerskih weapons and at the same time they shove them off the Houthis with RPG7. It's like giving a monkey a microscope for science.
  22. Azimuth
    Azimuth 23 July 2021 01: 55
    +1
    The article in the Vietnamese edition is utter nonsense.

    Iran, Israel's main adversary, will not see this fighter as its ears, and buying a simplified single-engine fighter will not create advantages for neighboring Arab countries either. Let me remind you that before the F-35 entered service with the Israeli Air Force, the basis of the fleet of its Air Force was the F-16 and F-15, the latest modifications of which are in service with the Arabs, but this does not and did not provide them with any advantage over Israel and his air force.
  23. iouris
    iouris 23 July 2021 07: 28
    0
    Israel can sleep peacefully: Boeing will soon demonstrate a mockup of the F-53, which could be a challenge for a mock-up of the Su-75.
  24. Iris
    Iris 23 July 2021 10: 41
    +2
    Israel's safety is based not only on technology, but also on the highest qualifications of the pilots.
    Anything can be sold to the Arabs; with their traditional and unchanging level of training, they will be more likely to pose a threat to their own airspace.
  25. hasanxnumx
    hasanxnumx 23 July 2021 15: 32
    0
    Israel is about to clip its wings
    1. Iris
      Iris 23 July 2021 21: 07
      +1
      Israel is about to clip its wings


      The arms are short on the undercutters laughing
  26. solcerchris
    solcerchris 23 July 2021 22: 29
    -1
    Quote: atalef
    exactly. look at the number of Nobel laureates

    Well, he made fun! Remember how Barack Obama received the Nobel Prize! Putin is 1000 times more worthy of this award, but he does not have it. If the majority of the Nobel committee has opa instead of a head, then the exhaust turns out to be top. If, instead of the fellowship that participates in the issuance of prizes, there were people appointed by God, then this would be the criterion. And so is the Lord's own hand!
  27. Azimuth
    Azimuth 23 July 2021 22: 55
    -1
    Quote: Iris
    Israel's safety is based not only on technology, but also on the highest qualifications of the pilots.
    Anything can be sold to the Arabs; with their traditional and unchanging level of training, they will be more likely to pose a threat to their own airspace.

    Israel pays a lot of attention to its Air Force and the level of their training, but its Air Force has long undergone a generational change and those fighters that have been nightmare for decades Arabs are gone. The new generation simply does not have full-fledged combat experience, strikes from Lebanese airspace against Syria do not count.
    The situation is facilitated only by the fact that the Arabs (Egypt, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Jordan, etc.), as they were weaklings, have remained, the Iranian Air Force has one name, the Turkish Air Force, in a conflict with which it is difficult to believe, do not surpass the Jewish Air Force, qualitatively or quantitatively. The Israelis simply do not have an enemy equal or close to them, in any other conditions, their air force will not live long.