New "Alligator": at MAKS-2021 they talked about tests of the upgraded Ka-52M helicopter using "product 305" missiles

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During the MAKS-2021 aerospace show, taking place in Zhukovsky, it became known about the modernization of Russian attack helicopters. We are talking about a new version of the Ka-52M rotorcraft.

According to the news agency RIA News with reference to the source, the modernization of the Ka-52 is carried out on the basis of the use of new weapons options. First of all, these are cruise missiles, with which the Ka-52M version is armed.



It was noted that successful launches of cruise missiles from this attack helicopter have already been carried out. Their modification is also called. This is "product 305". Reports say that during flight tests, such cruise missiles successfully hit targets at a military range. First of all, the targets imitated enemy armored vehicles.

The seeker (seeker) of a cruise missile for the Ka-52M is distinguished by the ability to retarget directly in the air due to its multispectral (multirange) capability. Also, a distinctive feature of the "product 305" is the ability of this missile to hit targets in conditions of the enemy's electronic jamming. It successfully engages targets in a “fire and forget” scheme, which allows pilots to focus on other tasks after launch - for example, avoiding a potential strike by enemy air defenses.

At one time, information appeared that the new RC for a helicopter is capable of hitting targets from a distance of up to 25 km, while the dive angle can reach 70 degrees.

Earlier it was noted that the Ka-52M version is being developed based on the Syrian experience of operating the basic version of the Alligator in Syria. This option will allow pilots to avoid entering the activity zone of a number of short-range air defense systems, including, for example, such as the M1097 Avenger.

According to the latest data, it is planned to complete the state tests of the Ka-52M attack helicopter by the end of 2022.
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    1. +17
      22 July 2021 06: 54
      Well, that "shot and forgot" gave a lift. Everything is like people.
      1. -1
        22 July 2021 16: 51
        not really, on Western models it is an ATGM, we have an operational air-launched missile system, in terms of the size that it has, it will take a maximum of 4 missiles ... in standard 2 ... you need to bring Hermes-A to mind ..
    2. +6
      22 July 2021 06: 57
      Good rocket however
      1. +12
        22 July 2021 07: 20
        Serious thing. Is it worth it?

        ... This is a light multipurpose guided missile (LMUR), which until recently was known under the factory code "Product 305". It, like "Hermes", was developed at the Tula Instrument Design Bureau named after V.I. A.G. Shipunova. The uniqueness of the missile is that it can be used to destroy targets both ground, stationary and mobile, as well as maneuvering air targets.


        The "Product 305" has a universal control system. Until the target is captured by the seeker (GOS), the missile flies under the control of the inertial system. At the same time, under certain circumstances, it is possible to correct the trajectory of the radar beam.

        GOS multichannel. To work with targets emitting heat (aircraft, armored vehicles with running engines), a thermal channel with a dual-band matrix infrared receiver is used. This allows you to significantly increase the noise immunity of the seeker, which does not work with an amorphous heat spot, but with a target signature that has very specific outlines. Thanks to this, the seeker does not react to heat traps fired by the enemy and optical interference generated by the laser.


        The promising rocket "Night Hunter" has the ability to bypass the defense of the KAZ. The fact is that the radar station of the KAZ "Merkava" and other NATO complexes tracks the space, relatively speaking, from the horizontal to the elevation angle not exceeding 70 degrees. The peculiarity of "Product 305" is that this missile attacks ground targets at a very large angle, almost vertically, so it does not fall into the field of view of KAZ radars.

        Such an attack has one more significant advantage - the missile hits armored vehicles in the upper projection, where the thickness of the protective armor is minimal. The American portable anti-tank complexes FGM-148 Javelin operate on the same principle. However, the difference between it and the LMUR is significant - the range of the Dzhevelin missile does not exceed three thousand meters.


        . The GOS LMUR also has one more channel - television. For shelling "cold" targets - engineering structures or armored vehicles with the engine off. In this case, the missile is guided to the target according to the image taken from the television camera, which is equipped with the seeker.


        And there are two more characteristics of the new missile that are important for dealing with heavily armored targets. The maximum speed of the bicaliber LMUR is Mach 3, at the level of the best air-to-air missiles used by fighters. High maneuverability is ensured by aerodynamic rudders optimally located in the front of the rocket. Also, the rocket has a very serious armor penetration - 1100 millimeters.

        https://vpk-news.ru/articles/62157
        1. +3
          22 July 2021 07: 35
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          Is it worth it?

          Yes, probably at the price of a foreign car
          1. +3
            22 July 2021 09: 55
            Quote: Seryoga64

            Yes, probably at the price of a foreign car


            And what do you want ?

            The times when the cost of firing a tank (or any other) gun was compared with the cost of officer's chrome boots are over.

        2. +11
          22 July 2021 08: 58
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          Serious thing. Is it worth it?

          Not more expensive than defeating the enemy. War victories.

          Quote: Seryoga64
          Yes, probably at the price of a foreign car

          Here the birds do not sing,
          Trees do not grow,
          And only we - shoulder to shoulder - grow into the ground here.

          The planet is burning and spinning,
          Smoke over our Motherland ...
          And that means we need one - Victory,
          One for all - we will not stand for the price!
        3. +6
          22 July 2021 09: 13
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          Also, the rocket has very serious armor penetration - 1100 millimeters.


          Taking into account the fact that the missile is capable of diving at the target at an angle of up to 70 degrees, that is, hitting an object from above, in the least protected part, then the armor penetration of 1100 mm is just "behind the eye" Yes

          good good good
          1. +4
            22 July 2021 09: 45
            "Product 305" has been successfully tested.
            ZHUKOVSKY (Moscow region), July 21 - RIA Novosti. The prototype of the modernized Ka-52M helicopter performed a series of successful firing of Product 305 cruise missiles, a source in the military-industrial complex on the sidelines of the MAKS-2021 air show told RIA Novosti.

            "The launches were carried out at one of the military training grounds and were recognized as successful," the source said.

            He added that the "product 305" is equipped with a multispectral homing head and has the ability to retarget in the air.

            https://ria.ru/20210722/ka-52m-1742306183.html
    3. +10
      22 July 2021 07: 04
      "hits targets according to the" fire and forget "scheme" - well, finally! good We've been waiting for a long time!
      And the fact that "it is capable of hitting targets from a distance of up to 25 km, while the dive angle can reach 70 degrees." Is generally pleasantly unexpected! good drinks
    4. +8
      22 July 2021 07: 34
      All that remains is to applaud our design engineers and take off your hat as a sign of respect. good hi
      1. -9
        22 July 2021 08: 18
        Quote: Ros 56
        All that remains is to applaud our design engineers and take off your hat as a sign of respect.

        Of course ! Hardly, barely in 30 years passed, and they have already managed! I didn't have to wait 50 years! fellow
        1. +2
          22 July 2021 09: 33
          Well, you are early ripening, one or two and you're done. Himself at least something, ever developed the simplest? We are all masters of scratching with tongues.
          1. -8
            22 July 2021 10: 48
            Quote: Ros 56
            Well, you are early ripening, one or two and you're done

            It's boring ... sickly and boring ... and you're crazy trying to "paraffin" my opinion!
            1. +2
              22 July 2021 13: 45
              I just simply asked the question of your participation in the creation of something. In response, boo-boo-boo-boo-boo, if there is nothing to say, that's where we'll end.
              1. -3
                22 July 2021 14: 11
                Quote: Ros 56
                I just simply asked the question of your participation in the creation of something

                Do not confuse the VO site with the Modelist-Constructor magazine! If you are confused, then it is not too late for you to move to the site "by profile"!
                1. +1
                  22 July 2021 14: 20
                  What does the magazine have to do with it, among other things, I am also a technologist for the processing of materials on machine tools and automatic lines. Breathe deeper, comrade and don't worry, our shot has ripened everywhere.
                  1. -4
                    22 July 2021 17: 01
                    Quote: Ros 56
                    among other things, I am also a technologist for the processing of materials on machine tools and automatic lines.

                    With what I congratulate you! I'm sure you can also embroider ... or learn!
                    1. +2
                      22 July 2021 18: 48
                      Unlike you, I can do a lot of things with both hands and brains.
        2. +1
          22 July 2021 10: 44
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Of course ! Hardly, barely in 30 years passed, and they have already managed!

          And why exactly 30 years?
          By the way, just 30 years ago I saw an optical attachment for an anti-missile missile defense system, the speeds there you know what. The target was a detonating cord — a hose filled with TNT. And at such a speed, this prilada was already working then, 30 years ago. Of course, there weren't any megapuxels in the matrix (although the picture was quite recognizable visually) and it was the size of a good saucepan and heated like a stove (but for an experimental prototype this is acceptable).
          For 30 years, they have successfully packed this pan into the dimensions of an ATGM, and added pixels and expanded the range. So you guessed it.
          1. 0
            22 July 2021 12: 34
            Quote: Jacket in stock
            And why exactly 30 years?

            "Product 305" - "variation" of "Hermes" ... About "Hermes" was first heard in the early 90s ... So count it ... if not 30 years, then almost (28 years)!
    5. -4
      22 July 2021 07: 50
      TV channel guidance on a rocket at a speed of 3M ??? Dual-band matrix IR seeker ??? And what kind of computer vision algorithm does the rocket use?
      Sincerely
      1. +2
        22 July 2021 09: 42
        Quote: nobody75
        TV channel guidance on a rocket at a speed of 3M ??? Dual-band matrix IR seeker ???? And what kind of computer vision algorithm does the rocket use?


        The most modern wink
        1. 0
          22 July 2021 10: 05
          And all this beauty in the head of the rocket? The tank from above in the IR range does not look like in the forehead
          Sincerely
    6. +2
      22 July 2021 08: 11
      The seeker (seeker) of a cruise missile for the Ka-52M is distinguished by the ability to retarget directly in the air due to multispectrality Live a century, learn a century, you will die a fool! And I thought earlier, out of the simplicity of my soul, that the possibility of retargeting in the air to a greater extent depends on the presence of a two-way communication channel "rocket-operator" and the maneuverability (controllability) of the rocket!
      1. -1
        22 July 2021 09: 49
        The author said at the expense of the head, so it is))) do you not believe our most truthful press?
        1. +2
          22 July 2021 11: 41
          The author said at the expense of the head, so it is))) do you not believe our most truthful press?
          Other truthful press describes everything more "calmly":
          a homing head operating in several modes: semi-active laser, television / photocontract, as well as two infrared ranges ... In addition, a missile with such a guidance system can be re-targeted in flight.
          No mention of retargeting via multispectrality. Maybe a new target will first be illuminated with a laser, it will be captured by a semi-active channel, and according to its information, they will try to capture either television or infrared, and as soon as one of them works, then it will be autonomous on a new target.
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        1. 0
          22 July 2021 14: 39
          And in general, filmed at "Mosfilm"!
    7. +2
      22 July 2021 09: 35
      How will reconnaissance and target designation be carried out for firing this "product"?
    8. +5
      22 July 2021 09: 38
      If the GOS is really as advanced as it says in the quotes, I congratulate all of us.
      And first of all, my "native" research institute, which, despite all the troubles, still works and gives results.
      1. +2
        22 July 2021 10: 22
        Something I doubt that target acquisition by optical and IR signature can be performed at 3M speed with a complex trajectory.
        Sincerely
        1. +2
          22 July 2021 10: 34
          .
          Theoretically, how to do this already 40-50 years ago was written in books for students.
          I read it myself.
          And practically last year, NIIEP made a computer of suitable power of suitable size just for such a task.
          1. +2
            22 July 2021 10: 36
            Theoretically, how to do this already 40-50 years ago was written in books for students.
            Theoretically, yes ... But in practice, right now, in the next tab, I'm watching a conference on machine vision.
            Sincerely
            1. +2
              22 July 2021 10: 48
              Quote: nobody75
              practically right now, in the next tab, I am watching a conference on machine vision.

              And 30 years ago I saw a device where the target simulator was a detonating cord, that is, the matrix and the processing system saw a blast wave going through the TNT. It was an onboard missile device.
              1. +1
                22 July 2021 10: 59
                I do not argue - the matrix can "see", but recognize it? The rocket, as we are told, makes a "slide"! In any case, the rocket loses grip when steeply gaining altitude. And at the highest point of the trajectory, what happens?
                Sincerely
        2. +2
          22 July 2021 12: 22
          Quote: nobody75
          Something I doubt that target acquisition by optical and IR signature can be performed at 3M speed with a complex trajectory.

          Doubts are justified ... this is a complex technical problem ... they solve this problem in different ways; incl. m method: "do not wash, so by rolling" ... The topic "target capture at a speed of 3M and higher ..." is worthy of a separate article! The solution to this topic was taken at the end of the last century, judging by the publications in the "paramilitary" magazines. Now it has become "easier" thanks to the development of technical "vision" devices, an increase in the capacity of electronic memory, the appearance of the so-called "AI elements" ...
          Basically, the presence of a "electronic memory" of large capacity, where the entered electronic "portraits" of the target (or targets) in the expected angles are stored ... "Portraits" are obtained by scanning objects with optoelectronic means or synthesizing on a computer ... comparison (continuously or selectively) of real "video" with "portraits" from memory ... We need high-speed digital processors, video processors in the GOS. It should be borne in mind that the "switching on" of the seeker and the acquisition of the target, usually occurs at the terminal section (TU) of the trajectory and a "patch" of the terrain is visible, where the INS missile with a correction subsystem (radar, GPS, TERCOM ...) century, due to technological "underdevelopment", options were considered "easier" ...! For example, a rocket with the help of an INS was launched into the target area ... made a "slide" ... descending on a parachute, scanned the area with the transmission of a "video photo" via a two-way communication channel to the "customer" ... received a command to capture a target with memorizing the target ... shooting a parachute and steep dive on a target with or without the rocket engine (in the absence of it ...)
    9. +1
      22 July 2021 13: 08
      It was noted that successful launches of cruise missiles from this attack helicopter have already been carried out. Their modification is also called. This is "product 305". Reports say that during flight tests, such cruise missiles successfully hit targets at a military range.

      As I understand it, the scribblers do not bother with the literacy of the description for them, there are only cruise missiles.

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