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Experts in Ukraine called the published agreement between the US and Germany on Nord Stream 2 contradictory and cynical

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The website of the German Foreign Ministry has published the text of the German-American agreement, which concerns "energy security". This agreement is generally devoted to interaction between Germany and the United States - primarily in terms of the situation with the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline. The published text of this document says that Berlin and Washington "support Ukraine, its sovereignty and territorial integrity."


At the same time, the joint declaration indicates that both states express support for the Minsk agreements, which were reached with the participation of Ukraine.

In other words, Kiev was once again given to understand that in case of non-fulfillment of the Minsk agreements on its part, neither the United States nor Germany will guarantee Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity.

At the same time, in order to somehow "reassure" the Ukrainian partners, the joint agreement states that the United States and Germany will "take measures against Russian destructive activities in Ukraine and abroad."

Russia will not be allowed to use the energy industry as a weapons... At the same time, it is not specified when it was such that Russia would use energy in the specified version.

In Ukraine itself, experts called the document contradictory and cynical. It is noted that the document says about the readiness to impose sanctions against the Russian Federation to limit the possibilities of gas exports to Europe. This is despite the fact that Joe Biden had previously lifted sanctions against Nord Stream 2 AG, and Angela Merkel personally persuaded her European colleagues to approve the completion of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.

They sign an agreement with one hand, wave to Putin with the other - build your own gas pipeline
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It is also mentioned that Washington ordered Ukraine to be calm about the construction of Nord Stream 2.

However, there were also those in Ukraine who said that the US-German agreement "would hit Russia and is proof of support for Ukraine from the leaders of the Western world." As an example, a detail of the agreement is given, which states that the United States and Germany are in favor of using the Ukrainian GTS for pumping Russian gas to Europe after 2024.

In fact, the statement does seem counterintuitive. Indeed, on the one hand, Biden and Merkel threaten Russia with sanctions for gas supplies to Europe, on the other, they actually approve of such supplies, albeit through Ukrainian territory.

Even more controversial is the proposal to invest in Ukraine "green energy fund", which, as noted, "should increase the energy security of Ukraine." The Ukrainians can learn a lot about the "green energy fund", for example, the inhabitants of Texas, who really froze over last winter - due to problems associated, including with the introduction of "green energy". Snow-littered solar panels have plunged the state into an energy collapse.
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  1. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 22 July 2021 06: 22
    +17
    The tobacco pretends to be like independent ... What the owners tell you, you will do, and everyone does not care about your problems ... they said to the morgue, which means to the morgue ...
    1. Finches
      Finches 22 July 2021 06: 35
      +15
      "You were thrown, Seryozha! Ki-well, like suckers !!!" laughing
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 22 July 2021 07: 20
        +10
        Russia is also unhappy with the results of negotiations between the United States and Germany.

        Russian Ambassador to Washington Anatoly Antonov too already called the results of the negotiations between Merkel and Biden on the "SP-2" not just provocative, but specifically hostile against Russia! Namely.

        Moscow has repeatedly called to stop mentioning Nord Stream 2 in the context of any politicization, since it is a COMMERCIAL project and it is beneficial to both Russia and the European Union.

        However, as US Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland said, Germany has pledged to seek EU sanctions against Moscow if Russia uses energy exports as a weapon against European states.

        TOTAL. Politically two-handed Germany for Russia is also an UNRELIABLE commercial "partner".
        Therefore, Kiev has something to rejoice like, like a donkey forced to catch up with a sweet carrot suspended in front of its nose.
        The USA has a similar attitude to Germany and to Russia. Therefore, Russia, too, has nothing to rejoice at.
        So the US and Germany have absolutely their own chess game in geopolitics.
        1. lwxx
          lwxx 22 July 2021 07: 45
          +14
          Quote: Tatiana
          Russia is also unhappy with the results of negotiations between the United States and Germany.

          Russian Ambassador to Washington Anatoly Antonov too already called the results of the negotiations between Merkel and Biden on the "SP-2" not just provocative, but specifically hostile against Russia!

          Antonov said he was ordered. He cannot say directly - that they (sga and the Germans, more precisely Europe) threw Ukraine. And what vague wording in the agreement. It seems like they are threatening, but which actions are not indicated. Like if you are something, then we will definitely ay-ay-ay.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 22 July 2021 08: 23
            +4
            Quote: lwxx
            Quote: Tatiana
            Russia is also unhappy with the results of negotiations between the United States and Germany.
            Russian Ambassador to Washington Anatoly Antonov too already called the results of the negotiations between Merkel and Biden on the "SP-2" not just provocative, but specifically hostile against Russia!
            Antonov said he was ordered. He cannot directly say that they (the United States and the Germans, more precisely Europe) threw Ukraine.

            Of course, Antonov will not say any critical things without Moscow's agreement.
            However, did Antonov say something NEW? Not at all! For Moscow already before has repeatedly called for an end to mentioning Nord Stream 2 in the context of any politicization, since this is a COMMERCIAL project and it is beneficial to both Russia and the European Union.
            And what vague wording in the agreement. It seems like they are threatening, but which actions are not indicated. Like if you are something, then we will definitely ay-ay-ay.

            All this is the same SPIDER international political agreement that existed in Europe and before the German attack on the USSR in 1941.
            So I do not see in this - in such political risks for Russia from the side of modern Germany - any special joy either for the Russians or for the state-forming ethnic Russians.
            TOTAL. Russian Ambassador to Washington Anatoly Antonov, in his assessment of the results of Biden's negotiations with Merkel, spoke out deeply diplomatic and ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 22 July 2021 09: 07
              +4
              Who knows where Biden and Merkel will be in 2024?
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 22 July 2021 09: 23
                +4
                Quote: Alex777
                Who knows where Biden and Merkel will be in 2024?

                The change of leading persons in Western countries - this, in principle, does not make much difference, because The MAIN trend in the West's policy against Russia has remained unchanged for centuries!

                Zbigniew Brzezinski (1928 - 2017) - American political scientist, sociologist and statesman of Polish origin. National Security Advisor to the 39th President of the United States Jimmy Carter:
                "Ukraine for us is an outpost of the West.
                A new world order with US hegemony is being created against Russia, at the expense of Russia and on the rubble of Russia. "


                Brzezinski about the new world order. Published: 23 May 2020
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 22 July 2021 11: 02
                  0
                  Everything changes in this world. hi
                2. Vladimir Mashkov
                  Vladimir Mashkov 23 July 2021 16: 33
                  0
                  No matter how the Americans instructed the velikoukram to silently accept their agreement with Germany on the SP-2 and NOT to discuss it, they do not obey them and screech. And the Americans ... are silent. Yes, the wrong ones went nonche gygymons! laughing laughing laughing
              2. Grits
                Grits 22 July 2021 15: 32
                0
                Quote: Alex777
                Who knows where Biden and Merkel will be in 2024?

                I don't know about Merkel, but where Biden will be - you can slightly predict ...
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 22 July 2021 16: 23
                  0
                  So far, Biden is for us the best thing that has been in the States over the past 10 years. Surprisingly. hi
          2. frruc
            frruc 22 July 2021 08: 40
            +5
            lwxx (Alexey)
            He cannot say directly - that they (sga and the Germans, more precisely Europe) threw Ukraine. And what are the vague wording in the agreement. It seems like they are threatening, but which actions are not indicated.

            It seems to me that the United States is looking for or has already found its interests (its own benefit) in this project. It's just that Americans don't do anything. Perhaps the Germans and other project participants in this sense have partially moved, giving the Americans the opportunity to resell gas. Naturally, Ukraine and Poland will turn out to be superfluous links. And after 2024. everyone will simply forget about Ukraine.
            1. NDR-791
              NDR-791 22 July 2021 09: 15
              +2
              Quote: frruc
              It seems to me that the United States is looking for or has already found its interests (its own benefit) in this project.

              This is absolutely indispensable. Rather, they will buy the Krajinskaya GTS - the extremists have no money for maintenance and servicing, they didn’t sell us in the best times, but now we don’t need it. This suitcase without a handle, and even with constant arrivals. Either Europe or the Americans will definitely invest. Gas will be supplied only for the population at the highest possible price (so that there would be no cold riots). And here is a big deal for enterprises! Only for their own will be supplied. So the Ukrainian industry will end completely, and the one who bought it will work. It sucks that it won't be us, but ce la vie ...
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              2. frruc
                frruc 22 July 2021 10: 55
                +3
                Ukraine has five options here: to look for investors for the exploration and production of gas on its territory (territorial waters) -that is a long-term project, to buy gas from its western neighbors, respectively. extra charge, negotiate with the Russian Federation on supplies, or switch to the so-called "green" energy, which will finally bury the industry, or extract helium-3 on the Moon. winked ? If there is still a coal industry and hydropower, it will be a complete collapse.
                1. NDR-791
                  NDR-791 22 July 2021 11: 31
                  +3
                  Quote: frruc
                  Ukraine has five options here:

                  There may be more options, but all of them either require money or require the transfer of property. The first is absent from the word at all, for the second the national toad will strangle. Hence the moral - there are no options
                2. Grits
                  Grits 22 July 2021 15: 36
                  +2
                  Quote: frruc
                  Ukraine has five options here:

                  And they are all shitty. Therefore...
              3. lwxx
                lwxx 22 July 2021 12: 26
                +2
                ... Gas will be supplied only for the population at the highest possible price (so that there would be no cold riots). And here is a big deal for enterprises! Only for their own will be supplied. So the Ukrainian industry will end completely, and the one who bought it will work. It sucks that it won't be us, but ce la vie ...
                I think that the population, unlike the extinctions that quietly scattered across Europe, will be even more angry with Russia. And they are betting on this.
                1. NDR-791
                  NDR-791 22 July 2021 13: 09
                  +1
                  Quote: lwxx
                  I think that the population, unlike the extinctions that quietly scattered across Europe, will be even more angry with Russia. And they are betting on this.

                  In general, I think that the extreme issue at this meeting was secondary. The main question is what levers of influence on Russia can be worked out in the current situation. Europe certainly wants to receive gas, but it also wants ways to influence us.
          3. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 22 July 2021 09: 20
            +2
            Quote: lwxx
            And what vague wording in the agreement. It seems like they are threatening, but which actions are not indicated. Like if you are something, then we will definitely ay-ay-ay.

            If there is nothing concrete in an international treaty, but there is only "for all good and against all bad", then this means that such an agreement is worthless, and diplomats understand this very well. Well, except for Ukrainian diplomats, of course laughing
        2. Seryoga64
          Seryoga64 22 July 2021 08: 53
          0
          Quote: Tatiana
          Politically two-handed Germany for Russia -


          like a donkey forced to catch up with a sweet carrot hanging in front of its nose.

        3. Seld
          Seld 22 July 2021 08: 57
          +1
          Very often, the main meaning and negativity lies in the very fact of the phenomenon. Not in the results of the meeting, as in this case, for example. Colleagues from Ukraine are foolish children, since they do not know such a principle in international relations. It is not so important what the Americans and the Germans registered and signed there ... In the current realities, all this is a piece of paper. Another phenomenon should be alarming (equally in Ukraine and in the Russian Federation): a (re-) launched dialogue between the West and the West. It doesn't really matter what topic. Dadada ... And if on the wave of the sp-2 topic, the Americans and Germans continue to meet intensively, this will inevitably lead to a deepening of cooperation GLOBAL. And do not care, in general, what they come up with on the topic of sp-2. The integration of the two countries will be strengthened globally. This is many times and an order of magnitude more important than sp-2. Consequence: there will certainly be a redistribution / change of cooperation between other European countries. It is still impossible to say who will be in the black. By the way, for the Russian Federation, it might be advantageous to agree to pump gas through Ukraine. And more. If only to maintain confusion and vacillation between Europe and the United States. Examples of such nuances from history - a dime a dozen, the whole sea !!!!! Nobody and nowhere has canceled the principle in diplomacy: "if you are friends with me, you will not have to be friends with him." The tactical benefit from saving on transit through Ukraine can strategically turn into a baaaaaaal hemorrhoid. Examples from history - google help.
          1. The black
            The black 22 July 2021 09: 17
            +4
            In Ukraine itself, experts called the document contradictory and cynical

            That's putting it mildly, vna ukroresursy just hysterical! It is very similar to the squeal of a pig, which was hit with a forged boot right in the patch. wassat
          2. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 22 July 2021 09: 18
            +2
            Quote: seld
            By the way, it might be beneficial for the Russian Federation to agree to pump gas through Ukraine

            Are you writing from Ukraine? Were burnt on "in Ukraine". And so already Russia for 30 years fed Ukraine, and in the USSR it was at the expense of the RSFSR of the Ukrainian SSR that it parasitized and fattened for 70 years! Enough!
      2. Silver bullet
        Silver bullet 22 July 2021 07: 22
        +13
        Loch, he is also a loser after 100 years, even though he is 42 years old
      3. antivirus
        antivirus 22 July 2021 07: 58
        -5
        the entire descent of Ilyinskaya st. dug up.
        but the atmosphere of the 90s will go away, apparently. the houses are in place, everything has changed
      4. Peak
        Peak 22 July 2021 08: 04
        +4
        Quote: Finches
        "You were thrown, Seryozha! Ki-well, like suckers !!!"

        And they are puffed up, not childishly ... They shouted to the whole world that there would be no decisions on Ukraine without Ukraine.

        And here on you ... "P "RІRѕR№RЅRѕR№ SѓRґR ° SЂ", USA and Germany ...
        1. Finches
          Finches 22 July 2021 08: 17
          +6
          Aggressive diplomacy of Kiev harms only Kiev itself, Europe is already tired of them, but still makes a face at a very bad game ... The center of the earth, several times pointed out that he is not a navel, but ..., but Kiev does not want to listen to anything. And he will also become erepenic, because he is supported by such geopolitical monsters as Poland and the Baltic limitrophes!
          1. Peak
            Peak 22 July 2021 08: 51
            +3
            Quote: Finches
            Kiev's aggressive diplomacy only hurts Kiev itself

            You flatter Kiev by calling something - diplomacy.
          2. Seryoga64
            Seryoga64 22 July 2021 08: 57
            +5
            Quote: Finches
            because it is supported by such geopolitical monsters as Poland and the Baltic limitrophes!

            Very powerful support, especially Tribal laughing
      5. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 22 July 2021 08: 37
        +8
        The zradniki were advised to close up their muzzle ...
        1. Kot_Kuzya
          Kot_Kuzya 22 July 2021 09: 24
          +5
          Quote: Tank jacket
          The zradniki were advised to close up their muzzle ...

          Not a barrel, but a hollow. It is through the hollow of the pots that they speak, and not through the mouth like normal people. The entire Runet was mutilated with their feces, in every thread of any forum and in the YouTube comments, only diarrhea from ukrobots is constantly present.
          1. Peak
            Peak 22 July 2021 09: 39
            +1
            Quote: Kot_Kuzya
            The entire Runet was mutilated with their feces, in every thread of any forum and in the YouTube comments, only diarrhea from ukrobots is constantly present.

            VContakte, in the news discussion section, so in general - a blockage. There are bots and svidomites from Ukraine, and our alternatively gifted ...
            1. Seryoga64
              Seryoga64 22 July 2021 10: 10
              +2
              Quote: PiK
              and our alternatively gifted ...

              These are just the same our and the most vicious am
          2. Tank jacket
            Tank jacket 22 July 2021 09: 40
            +2
            I agree with you yes

            1. Kot_Kuzya
              Kot_Kuzya 22 July 2021 09: 51
              +4
              The pans are still dumb and unteachable. By the way, I noticed that there are fewer ukrobots compared to 2014, not much, but more noticeable. Looks like the fact is that the population of Ukraine has decreased during this time to 30 million, and there are simply fewer ukrov larvae. In 2014, there were another 40 million.
            2. Seryoga64
              Seryoga64 22 July 2021 10: 18
              +4
              Insolence rolls over

              Correctly say
              1. Tank jacket
                Tank jacket 22 July 2021 10: 52
                +1
                Never was this, and here again ...
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    3. den3080
      den3080 22 July 2021 07: 50
      +3
      Along the way, Merkel wants to complete her work with a demobilization chord - to finish building the SP-2. And this she will do whoever and what would not declare.
      But what will happen next is a question.
      I think the Americans will take this SP-2 away from Germany. That is, they will sit on top and set prices, quotas and whatever else accompanies the supply of Russian gas.
      Armin Laschet was not distinguished by intelligence and ingenuity, laughing at Steinmeier's speech on the flood.
      So, with a high probability, the Americans will push their Annulena Berbock.
      In general, the struggle is still ahead. And here little depends on Russia, unfortunately.
      And 404 does not apply at all.

      And by the way, I think that the Americans (Anglo-Saxons) would gladly close all pipes from Russia, if the opportunity presented itself.
      "One" pipe (through 404) will fail by itself, due to physical wear and tear, since no one does anything there, but simply steal all the cases.
      And on the joint venture (two) you need to sit on top and steer the valves.
      1. Peak
        Peak 22 July 2021 08: 06
        +2
        Quote: den3080
        Along the way, Merkel wants to complete her work with a demobilization chord - to finish building the SP-2. And this she will do whoever and what would not declare.

        Well, yes, a place on the board of directors of the SP-2 management company must be earned yes
      2. Seryoga64
        Seryoga64 22 July 2021 08: 59
        0
        Quote: den3080
        And here, unfortunately, little depends on Russia.

        Why "Unfortunately?
        Yes, let them squabble among themselves there
        We will get ours for the gas, and then that it will not be our business with it
      3. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 22 July 2021 11: 20
        0
        Tadam ...
        ⚡️️Russia has filed a complaint with the ECHR against Ukraine over violation of the European Convention on Human Rights. Main complaints:

        - the death of people during the Euromaidan in 2014, during a fire in the House of Trade Unions in Odessa and during an operation in Donbass;

        - death of people, harm to health and destruction of property during shelling of adjacent Russian territory;

        - suppression of freedom of speech and persecution of dissidents, including politicians and journalists;

        - discrimination against the Russian-speaking population and the displacement of the Russian language, as well as a ban on broadcasting Russian-language channels and restricting access to Internet platforms and printed publications in Russian

        - discrimination against Russian companies and entrepreneurs;

        - depriving residents of southeastern Ukraine of the opportunity to participate in elections;

        - water blockade of Crimea;

        - attacks on Russian diplomatic, consular and other missions;

        - the collapse of MH17 due to the fact that Ukraine did not close the airspace over the war zone;

        - refusal to provide the necessary legal assistance to the Russian investigating authorities in the investigation of the crimes committed.
        ------
        An excellent plug for the ECHR. Handsome diplomats.
    4. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 22 July 2021 12: 00
      +2
      We were not accepted to Europe,
      Broke off our dream
      30 years licked the opa,
      It turned out that it was not the right one ... laughing
  2. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 22 July 2021 06: 24
    +7
    Classics of the genre ... gentlemen wiped their feet on the servant ... brothers get used to their role.
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 22 July 2021 06: 33
      +2
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      the gentlemen wiped their feet on the servant ...

      They have been wiping their feet since the age of 14. True, it was not so clear, but now it was done almost publicly.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 22 July 2021 06: 35
      +7
      the US-German agreement "will hit Russia and is proof of support for Ukraine from the leaders of the Western world."

      People need to be reassured, and loved ones too.
      The United States and Germany are in favor of using the Ukrainian GTS to pump Russian gas to Europe after 2024.

      They may be "For", but here's what else Russia will say. And in general, it is still necessary to live until 2024, and Ukraine itself must exist
      invest in Ukraine "green energy fund", which, as noted, "should increase the energy security of Ukraine"

      Green Fund? Is this from Zelensky or what? A subtle hint of what he will be in charge of in the near future? Let him immediately then ask for solar panels to donate
      1. Seryoga64
        Seryoga64 22 July 2021 06: 42
        +4
        Quote: Egoza
        They may be "For", but here's what else Russia will say.

        And Russia does not refuse pumping.
        The question is how will be pumped.
        But how much we will decide and no one will tell us the volumes
        As it seems to me, at the very minimum in order to maintain the working condition of the pipe
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 22 July 2021 06: 48
          +5
          Quote: Seryoga64
          But how much we will decide and no one will tell us the volumes
          As it seems to me, at the very minimum in order to maintain the working condition of the pipe

          "Shaw? And nothing can be stolen? NIGHTMARE !!!" - said Naftogaz of Ukraine and has ALREADY raised the price of gas for the population by 173%
          1. Seryoga64
            Seryoga64 22 July 2021 07: 03
            0
            Quote: Egoza
            "Shaw? And nothing can be stolen? NIGHTMARE !!!"

            They understand this very well and therefore are trying with all their might to close the SP-2 project.
          2. Peak
            Peak 22 July 2021 08: 10
            +4
            Quote: Egoza
            Naftogaz of Ukraine ..... raised the price of gas for the population by 173%


            Glory fool Ukraine! laughing
            1. Seryoga64
              Seryoga64 22 July 2021 09: 01
              +4
              Quote: PiK
              Glory to Ukraine !

              And even more Glory to the heroes, headed by the chief brigade commander zelyonkin
              1. Peak
                Peak 22 July 2021 09: 04
                +1
                Quote: Seryoga64
                And even more Glory to the heroes, headed by the chief brigade commander zelyonkin

                How old is he? 43? And he is not a sucker wassat wassat wassat
                1. Seryoga64
                  Seryoga64 22 July 2021 09: 16
                  +2
                  Quote: PiK
                  And he is not a sucker

                  It was suggested to him laughing
                  But from the outside it is better to see laughing
                  1. Peak
                    Peak 22 July 2021 09: 23
                    -2
                    Quote: Seryoga64
                    It was suggested to him
                    But from the outside it is better to see


                    Perhaps self-hypnosis yes

                    Anecdote:

                    A little hedgehog walks alone through a terrible night forest and repeats:

                    - I'm not scared, I'm not afraid, I don't want to poop
                    - I'm not scared, I'm not afraid, I don't want to poop
                    - I'm not afraid, I'm not afraid ... Oh!!!
                    1. Seryoga64
                      Seryoga64 22 July 2021 10: 21
                      0
                      Quote: PiK
                      Perhaps self-hypnosis

                      Rather already, self-deception
        2. antivirus
          antivirus 22 July 2021 08: 00
          +1
          need less than the minimum.
          for Slovakia - by agreement.
          there is no contract with the outskirts and there will be no volume. Czechs will receive from Germany.
          The question is, how much will Slovaks order?
          1. Seryoga64
            Seryoga64 22 July 2021 08: 02
            -2
            Quote: antivirus
            need less than the minimum.

            So this will be the minimum
            1. antivirus
              antivirus 22 July 2021 08: 05
              0
              once again, on the contrary - in order to be less than the minimum - to realize the fact - to close the pipe of the outskirts. the scribe must live in it. not dollars
              Germans and others to the EU will not give up the outskirts market (30-40 million hours). we don't have to pay for their joy in selling cars and chairs and the like.
              it is necessary to make money on the outskirts and on the decision of the EU to support the coup.
              the consequences must come at a cost. for them
              1. Seryoga64
                Seryoga64 22 July 2021 08: 09
                0
                Quote: antivirus
                once again, on the contrary - to be less than the minimum -

                So you said it yourself
                for Slovakia - by agreement.

                And the pipe cannot be completely closed, we made a commitment
                But we did not promise anyone how much to pump
            2. Peak
              Peak 22 July 2021 08: 23
              -1
              Quote: Seryoga64
              So this will be the minimum


              It would be good if the volumes decreased by so much that Ukraine would have to use gas of its own production to displace methane from underground gas storage facilities.
              That is, to reduce the profitability, profitability for them from gas transit to practically zero.
              1. Seryoga64
                Seryoga64 22 July 2021 08: 25
                +1
                So I am about it. Pump only to keep the pipe in working order
                Germany will not need their gas after the SP-2 dignity nafik, and the minimum pumping does not violate the contract.
                We are pumping, and how much is already our business
  3. Boromir1941
    Boromir1941 22 July 2021 06: 25
    +4
    everyone wants tasty treats
  4. Ros 56
    Ros 56 22 July 2021 06: 26
    +4
    Since when are vassals allowed to open their mouths to their masters? Have you felt the whip on your own skin for a long time? It is not evening yet, they will find out how much a pound is dashing.
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 22 July 2021 06: 31
      -3
      Quote: Ros 56
      Haven't you felt the whip for a long time?

      And the whip is ready and ready to go
      1. Peak
        Peak 22 July 2021 08: 34
        -2
        Quote: Seryoga64

        And the whip is ready and ready to go

        Alas yes ,Alas yes ,Alas yes ... The whistle of the Russian whip, whip, they have not heard since 2015, from Debaltsevo.
        1. Seryoga64
          Seryoga64 22 July 2021 09: 03
          +1
          Quote: PiK
          The whistle of the Russian whip, whip, they have not heard since 2015, from Debaltsevo.

          It's not evening yet, they will hear
  5. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 22 July 2021 06: 26
    +4
    When the owner decides when to slaughter his pig and at what price to sell it to a neighbor for a ham, he is not interested in the pig's opinion. Likewise, the United States is not interested in Ukraine's opinion in the agreements with Germany.
  6. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 22 July 2021 06: 27
    +4
    First I would like to talk about Germany.
    Nord Stream is a great blessing for the German economy, and in order to realize this blessing, you need to go to Washington and ask permission from the Americans, simultaneously agreeing to all sorts of sometimes onerous conditions!
    Germans, what's wrong with you?
    Bismarck must be turning over in his grave! negative
    1. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 22 July 2021 06: 45
      +2
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      Nord Stream is a great blessing for the German economy, and in order to realize this blessing, you need to go to Washington and ask permission from the Americans, simultaneously agreeing to all sorts of sometimes onerous conditions!
      Germans, what's wrong with you?

      Germany is essentially still an occupied country since 1945, Germany is full of American and British bases, and therefore Germany does not have an independent foreign policy. These traitors Gorbachev and Yeltsin unconditionally withdrew Soviet / Russian troops from Germany, and the United States does not intend to do this, because as long as Germany is occupied by American troops, they control all of Europe.
      1. Seryoga64
        Seryoga64 22 July 2021 07: 04
        -1
        Quote: Kot_Kuzya
        Germany is full of American and British bases

        Plus gold reserves for a large puddle
  7. Seryoga64
    Seryoga64 22 July 2021 06: 29
    -1
    In other words, Kiev was once again given to understand that in case of non-fulfillment of the Minsk agreements on its part, neither the United States nor Germany guarantee Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity.

    Well, Zelyonkin must hear it.
    Already the owner tells him in plain text that when the kirdyk begins to come to the outskirts, the owner will not strike a finger in its defense.
    Example 8.08.08 still in memory
    1. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 22 July 2021 06: 48
      +3
      Quote: Seryoga64
      the owner will not strike a finger in her defense.
      Example 8.08.08 still in memory

      You can also remember 01.09.39/XNUMX/XNUMX, when Poland's allies Britain and France did not touch a finger to help their ally Poland, despite the fact that Poland had a full-fledged allied agreement on military assistance with France and Britain. And Ukraine does not even have an alliance agreement with the United States, so the naivety of the saucepans simply does not know the bottom, these Sumerians still think that "Omeriga is with us!" wassat
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 22 July 2021 07: 07
        +1
        Washington ordered Ukraine to calmly treat the construction of the "Nord Stream-2".
        And sit on the priest maydanutye exactly!
      2. Seryoga64
        Seryoga64 22 July 2021 07: 08
        0
        Quote: Kot_Kuzya
        these Sumerians still think that "Omeriga is with us!"

        And when they realized that they had been thrown, they rushed to kiss the Chinese in the gums, forgetting how they had thrown the Chinese from Motor Sich.
        And China, like another normal country, is not forgiven for this.
        1. Kot_Kuzya
          Kot_Kuzya 22 July 2021 07: 37
          +7
          Quote: Seryoga64
          And when they realized that they had been thrown, they rushed to kiss the Chinese in the gums, forgetting how they had thrown the Chinese from Motor Sich.

          Ukraine has long been strongly associated with a prostitute, and Ukrainian women have been associated with prostitutes. Recently there was information that at the Miss Ukraine-2021 contest they could not fully recruit 25 contestants, since one of the requirements for candidates was a clean biography without work in escort services, the candidates were checked for this through social networks. By the way, abroad Ukrainian prostitutes pretend to be Russians am
          1. Seryoga64
            Seryoga64 22 July 2021 07: 40
            +5
            Quote: Kot_Kuzya
            and Ukrainian women - with prostitutes


            Ukraine has long and firmly been associated with a prostitute,

  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 July 2021 06: 33
    +1
    In short, they threw the 404th, not for the smell of tobacco ... but how he breathed! At the end of August, Ze will go to Biden, exactly after the completion of the construction of the SP-2. What for? Well, he probably knows why ... wassat
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 22 July 2021 07: 12
      -1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      At the end of August, Ze will go to Biden,

      And that's not a fact. There is no specific date, except for the vague "late summer"
      And this is always for the fall, etc. can be moved
      What for? Well, he probably knows why ..

      To get another click on the nose and get reprimanded for disobedience.
      And even "incomplete official position" laughing
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 22 July 2021 07: 31
      +1
      How why? .. He will fill the lighter with gas.)
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 22 July 2021 06: 36
    +2
    Experts in Ukraine called the published agreement between the US and Germany on Nord Stream 2 contradictory and cynical
    ... Are the guinea pigs missing something?
    Although, are they in general still capable of something ... to understand?
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 22 July 2021 06: 45
      -1
      Quote: rocket757
      ... Are the guinea pigs missing something?

      Yes, maybe they understood, just to admit that they were thrown, they do not want to.
      Instead of cookies, eerie reality
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 July 2021 07: 47
        +2
        There will still be roofing felts, MAYBE, if the brains do not begin to move .... oh, oh, oh!
        1. Seryoga64
          Seryoga64 22 July 2021 07: 58
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          if they don't start moving their brains

          Whoaeeeee ??? So they have completely dried up in 30 years. No.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 22 July 2021 08: 13
            +1
            I don't want to believe that it happened for everyone and forever ...
            1. Seryoga64
              Seryoga64 22 July 2021 08: 16
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              I don't want to believe that it happened for everyone and forever

              Well, not all of them, of course, but forever, it's a fact.
              I should have jumped less
              1. cniza
                cniza 22 July 2021 08: 45
                +2
                Quote: Seryoga64

                I should have jumped less


                Or more, so that the excess would fall off ... lol
                1. Seryoga64
                  Seryoga64 22 July 2021 08: 47
                  0
                  Quote: cniza
                  Or more, so that the excess would fall off ...

                  It fell off. Crimea, Donbass.
                  The rest will fall off a little later.
                  Hi hi
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 22 July 2021 08: 55
                    -1
                    No more lol

                    Good time! hi
                    1. Seryoga64
                      Seryoga64 22 July 2021 09: 10
                      +1
                      Quote: cniza
                      No more

                      Necessary. Odessa, Kharkov, Nikolaev and other Russian cities cannot be left there
                      1. cniza
                        cniza 22 July 2021 09: 13
                        +3
                        It's easier to list what remains ... yes
                      2. Seryoga64
                        Seryoga64 22 July 2021 09: 19
                        0
                        Quote: cniza
                        It's easier to list what remains ...

                        Westernism is enough for them
                      3. cniza
                        cniza 22 July 2021 09: 36
                        +2
                        There, too, they look from both sides and drool ...
                      4. Seryoga64
                        Seryoga64 22 July 2021 10: 25
                        0
                        Quote: cniza
                        There, too, they look from both sides and drool ...

                        And these are already Kuev's problems
                      5. cniza
                        cniza 22 July 2021 11: 48
                        +2
                        They manage to create problems for everyone in the district and be surprised, and for sho ...
    2. cniza
      cniza 22 July 2021 08: 44
      0
      Quote: rocket757
      I don't want to believe that it happened for everyone and forever ...


      This periodically happens to everyone, and then a new cycle ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 July 2021 09: 02
        +2
        Thugs can only be treated with ... intensive methods. At least rods, at most ... there are options.
        1. cniza
          cniza 22 July 2021 09: 06
          +4
          Moreover, in this situation, without options, the carrot does not work ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 22 July 2021 09: 17
            +2
            Gingerbread ... no, no, they liked the free cookies, as it seemed to them ... the addiction passed at once.
            1. cniza
              cniza 22 July 2021 09: 20
              +4
              Here, he acts destructively on them, therefore only flog ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 22 July 2021 10: 20
                +1
                A look from the outside ... they must begin to exercise prudence themselves.
              2. cniza
                cniza 22 July 2021 11: 45
                +3
                And without a desire on their part, the whip will not help, this is verified ...
              3. rocket757
                rocket757 22 July 2021 11: 50
                +1
                Rods are for stimulating processes ... if there are no processes, then there is nothing to stimulate.
              4. cniza
                cniza 22 July 2021 11: 52
                +3
                Yes, the causative agent of the process is only inside, it will not be and nothing will be ...
  • cniza
    cniza 22 July 2021 08: 44
    +2
    Quote: Seryoga64
    Quote: rocket757
    if they don't start moving their brains

    Whoaeeeee ??? So they have completely dried up in 30 years. No.



    We do not understand anything, they are so for long storage ...
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 22 July 2021 08: 48
      -2
      Quote: cniza
      they are so for long-term storage ...

      So they don't have permafrost laughing
      1. cniza
        cniza 22 July 2021 08: 57
        +1
        Let them try to salt it, maybe it will be better ... lol
        1. Seryoga64
          Seryoga64 22 July 2021 09: 12
          0
          Quote: cniza
          Let them try to salt it, maybe it will be better ... lol

          Better to mummify
          1. cniza
            cniza 22 July 2021 09: 16
            +3
            There are many options and ways, let them dare ...
            1. Seryoga64
              Seryoga64 22 July 2021 09: 17
              0
              Quote: cniza
              There are many options and ways, let them dare ...

              So the decision of the Fashington regional committee will be
              1. cniza
                cniza 22 July 2021 09: 30
                +2
                Something tells me that he will now carry the horses into gear and begin to be rude to the owner ...
              2. Seryoga64
                Seryoga64 22 July 2021 10: 27
                0
                Quote: cniza
                Something tells me that he will now carry the horses into gear and begin to be rude to the owner ...

                The "runaway" will not be enough for a long time. The tongue will be cut off in no time
              3. cniza
                cniza 22 July 2021 11: 49
                +3
                The owner is busy with his own affairs, he may not overlook ...
  • cniza
    cniza 22 July 2021 08: 43
    +2
    Quote: rocket757
    There will still be roofing felts, MAYBE, if the brains do not begin to move .... oh, oh, oh!



    If they just move on the chair, maybe something will move ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 22 July 2021 09: 01
      +2
      With those who sit in the offices, in soft armchairs, everything is clear ... there is a downward movement of what should be located higher, laid down by the program, even in the "incubator" ... how the population is going to live / continue to exist ... question?
      1. cniza
        cniza 22 July 2021 09: 05
        +4
        So they don't need to think, they are in the cage, and whoever begins to be clever, right away ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 22 July 2021 09: 18
          +2
          A double-edged sword, as always ...
          A lot of smart ones do not suit them, and from full of bad worries / problems, not much less.
          1. cniza
            cniza 22 July 2021 09: 34
            +3
            The age-old problem of how to find a balance has always been this way ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 22 July 2021 10: 23
              +1
              Well, yes, the golden mean ... it's not said in vain.
              Here are just a few imagined themselves to be a point, a center around which everyone should revolve, and they have no doubt that it should be so.
              They are not the first, they are not the last ... it happened more than once.
              1. cniza
                cniza 22 July 2021 11: 46
                +3
                This is yes - everyone owes us, from which everyone is jarred, consumers and no more ...
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 22 July 2021 11: 52
                  +1
                  Well, yes, there are a lot of dots, holes and holes ... now just fill it up with a bulldozer.
                2. cniza
                  cniza 22 July 2021 11: 54
                  +3
                  And not one, but a whole team must work, and then also roll from above ...
                3. rocket757
                  rocket757 22 July 2021 13: 12
                  +1
                  Unfortunately, there is no such concrete, material, than all this can be rolled up once and for all.
                4. cniza
                  cniza 22 July 2021 15: 58
                  +3
                  Unfortunately not, but you need to roll it up ...
  • cniza
    cniza 22 July 2021 08: 42
    +2
    Oh, it seems to me everything is more difficult there, they are ready to be thrown, but from this it should be even worse for us ... yes
  • cniza
    cniza 22 July 2021 08: 41
    +2
    They were downgraded to mice ... lol
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 22 July 2021 08: 49
      -1
      Quote: cniza
      They've been downgraded to mice

      Under a broom laughing
      1. cniza
        cniza 22 July 2021 08: 58
        +2
        Not for them such freedom is impossible, only in a cage ...
        1. Seryoga64
          Seryoga64 22 July 2021 09: 14
          +3
          Quote: cniza
          Not for them such freedom is impossible, only in a cage ...

          At the zoo laughing
          1. cniza
            cniza 22 July 2021 09: 17
            +4
            Such noble animals may be offended that there are signs nearby ... lol
            1. Seryoga64
              Seryoga64 22 July 2021 09: 18
              0
              Quote: cniza
              Such noble animals may be offended that there are signs nearby ...

              Duc the cell itself is far away laughing
              1. cniza
                cniza 22 July 2021 09: 31
                +4
                They won't even want to be on one hectare ... lol
                1. Seryoga64
                  Seryoga64 22 July 2021 10: 28
                  +2
                  Quote: cniza
                  They won't even want one hectare.

                  Well, what can you do now
                  recourse
  • Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 22 July 2021 06: 41
    +5
    This is a "surprise"!
    And "Monica Ze" has already done so much and they will blow out of the Minsk agreements and they will forbid the completion of the Nord Stream!
    Now it turns out that you can't give up the Minsk agreements either, and no one is going to cancel Nord Stream, and even Germany is not going to pay any compensation to Ukro-In.
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 22 July 2021 07: 16
      +2
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      Now it turns out that you can't give up the Minsk agreements either, and no one is going to cancel Nord Stream, and even Germany is not going to pay any compensation to Ukro-In.

      And put them in a pose laughing
      1. prior
        prior 22 July 2021 07: 50
        +3
        To tie Europe into such a knot, Russia should systematically, under the pretext of depleting its deposits, reduce gas supplies to Europe. Very soon the Ukrainian transit will be "blown away".
        And the undelivered gas should be sent to China and Japan.
        1. Seryoga64
          Seryoga64 22 July 2021 07: 57
          -1
          Quote: prior
          To tie Europe into a knot like this

          Yes, I'm not a gayrope, I meant the outskirts smile
          1. prior
            prior 22 July 2021 07: 59
            +1
            Such a beautiful pose is worthy of both. lol
            1. Seryoga64
              Seryoga64 22 July 2021 08: 00
              -2
              Quote: prior
              Such a beautiful pose is worthy of both.

              I'm glad you liked it and don't mind offering it to the other side. laughing
  • Sergey269
    Sergey269 22 July 2021 07: 07
    +2
    As an example, a detail of the agreement is given, which states that the United States and Germany are in favor of using the Ukrainian GTS for pumping Russian gas to Europe after 2024.[Quote] [/ quote]
    It remains only to add - with technical readiness for pumping, where is the money, Zin.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 22 July 2021 07: 26
    +1
    Stupid Corydalis, oh, that is. khokh ly, but the brains are the same, chicken.
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 22 July 2021 07: 29
    +2
    Have fun, chubatenkie. Jude-Jude.
  • Machete
    Machete 22 July 2021 07: 35
    +3
    Oh, that's it.
    Gazprom will stop pumping through Ukraine, so what?
    Sanctions?
    Don't give a damn about them.
    Will they refuse to take gas?
    For the sake of refusal did the Germans have so much crap? They will not refuse. What then?
    Nothing. Just another empty speech to appease the chubaty. And as we give them a ride, they will say that they could not do anything.
    For the first time or what?
    And the pressure in the tube will not be reduced. Winter is close, there is no gas. And you need to fill it.
    Biden, too, can no longer really do anything. And he won't. I blamed everything on Trump. In short, by this he indicated what the pipe should be.
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 22 July 2021 07: 45
      -2
      Quote: Machete
      Gazprom will stop pumping through Ukraine, so what?

      Will not stop. It will just pump to a minimum so that the pipe is in working order.
      No one needs a man-made accident
      1. Machete
        Machete 22 July 2021 08: 15
        +2
        That which will be driven can be called termination.
        1. Seryoga64
          Seryoga64 22 July 2021 08: 18
          -1
          Or at least, without withdrawing from the treaty with Germany
          1. Machete
            Machete 22 July 2021 08: 21
            -1
            I'm not a specialist in pipelines, but will the minimum pumping be not fatal for the pipe?
            1. Seryoga64
              Seryoga64 22 July 2021 08: 23
              -1
              Quote: Machete
              but the minimum pumping will not be fatal for the pipe?

              There must be gas in the pipe. Like water in pipes
              1. Machete
                Machete 22 July 2021 08: 35
                0
                This is how much it should be.
                I don’t want to lie, but I read a long time ago that the pressure in the pipe for its normal life should be either a quarter or a third of the norm.
                Maybe I'm confusing what.
                1. Seryoga64
                  Seryoga64 22 July 2021 09: 07
                  0
                  Yes, most likely the way it is
    2. prior
      prior 22 July 2021 07: 47
      -5
      There is another suggestion.
      Ukraine buys American liquefied gas, receives it through Polish terminals, and then transits it through its pipes to its friends in Germany.
      And everyone is happy. Germany with gas. America is selling. Ukraine with transit.
      And there will be a peremoga for everyone.
      Oh yes, Russia. Do Ukraine, Germany and the United States care about Russia's interests?
      1. Machete
        Machete 22 July 2021 08: 18
        +3
        Do you believe that?
        This is despite the fact that the ukrov have no money, so also to drive gas from Poland ukram, then the Germans.
        The Poles have a border with Germany. Why such difficulties.
        Then the price. The Germans do not charge twice as much when you put 10 yards into the pipe. Plus its own distribution stations, oriented not to the Good.
        1. prior
          prior 22 July 2021 08: 25
          +4
          Well, so many believe in delirium. They believe, in nonsense, that they will be taken to NATO, believe in nonsense that they will be taken into the EU, believe in nonsense that they have been at war with Russia for 7 years, believe in nonsense about reverse gas.
          They may well believe in my delirium ... laughing
          There is so much nonsense in Ukraine that this one will come too.
          1. Machete
            Machete 22 July 2021 08: 37
            0
            Let them believe.
            Blessed is he who believes ...
          2. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 22 July 2021 09: 37
            +3
            Quote: prior
            Well, so many believe in delirium. They believe, in nonsense, that they will be taken to NATO, believe in nonsense that they will be taken into the EU, believe in nonsense that they have been at war with Russia for 7 years, believe in nonsense about reverse gas.
            They may well believe in my delirium ...
            There is so much nonsense in Ukraine that this one will come too.

            I remember that the puppies were galloping happily at the news of the new Silk Road through Ukraine, Georgia, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan, bypassing Russia. On the arguments that such a path is absolutely unprofitable, since you need to go through a bunch of borders and customs, and you also need to transfer cargo from land to sea and back to the Caspian and Black Sea ports, the saucepans in response only sprinkled saliva like "you cotton wool, you don't understand anything ". Well, time has shown who does not understand and who understands laughing ... And it seems that in order to understand the basics of logistics, you don't need to be particularly smart. But the pans did not understand! negative fool
  • rusich
    rusich 22 July 2021 08: 00
    +2
    We jumped. Svidomo thrown
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 22 July 2021 08: 19
      0
      Quote: rusich
      Svidomo thrown

      And this was understandable back in 14
      Then the question was only in what year it will happen
      1. cniza
        cniza 22 July 2021 08: 39
        +2
        hi

        In my opinion, this is much earlier, that way for 10 years ...
        1. Seryoga64
          Seryoga64 22 July 2021 09: 08
          +1
          Quote: cniza
          In my opinion, this is much earlier, that way for 10 years ...

          They began to be openly supported immediately after the nuland cookies.
          1. cniza
            cniza 22 July 2021 09: 12
            +4
            Openly yes, and so much earlier the work was in full swing ...
            1. Seryoga64
              Seryoga64 22 July 2021 09: 20
              0
              Quote: cniza
              Openly yes, and so much earlier the work was in full swing ...

              And our diplomats chewed snot am
              1. cniza
                cniza 22 July 2021 09: 37
                +5
                We did not have diplomats there, there were drinking companions and businessmen ...
                1. Seryoga64
                  Seryoga64 22 July 2021 10: 31
                  +1
                  Quote: cniza
                  , there were drinking companions and businessmen ...

                  This is the exact wording yes
  • cniza
    cniza 22 July 2021 08: 37
    +1
    In fact, the statement does seem counterintuitive. Indeed, on the one hand, Biden and Merkel threaten Russia with sanctions for gas supplies to Europe, on the other, they actually approve of such supplies, albeit through Ukrainian territory.


    Solid riddles - politics is called ...
  • Gato
    Gato 22 July 2021 08: 49
    +1
    Nonsense. Russia supplies gas to Germany in order to increase its competitiveness and influence, and the United States threatens in response with sanctions if Russia suddenly refuses to supply this gas. Russia supplies rocket engines to the United States, and Germany does not care. Why?
    No, in the good old bipolar world it was easier: we are d'Artagnans - they understand who, but now you won't understand who to approach from which side sad
  • Moskovit
    Moskovit 22 July 2021 08: 52
    +2
    Until the Ukrainians understand who they really are, and that they must solve all their problems themselves, they will be constantly put in the pose of a drinking deer.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 22 July 2021 08: 55
    +2
    How tired of this circus with horses. Gazprom is a gas seller, make offers and that's it!
  • Dave36
    Dave36 22 July 2021 08: 56
    +1
    GazProm can pay and not pump through 404 - so that they do not steal transit ... then UA will not be good at all ..
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 22 July 2021 09: 44
    +4

    On July 22, near Brody, the SS division "Galicia" was defeated.

    Taras Gunchak in the book "At the uniforms of the enemy" writes that Wächter received permission to form a division that would become part of the SS troops from Himmler. “During a conversation on March 4, 1943, Wächter handed Himmler a letter with a proposal, if Himmler approves, to discuss with the Ukrainian“ guides ”the creation of the SS Volunteer Division“ Galicia ”.

    The meeting, which was attended by ten Nazi leaders, agreed that “for psychological and political reasons” the word “police” in the name of the formation should be avoided. That is, it was about the creation of a police "security", namely a punitive division in the SS troops, and this was what had to be hidden. Himmler also banned any mention of the word "Ukrainian" in the context of division formation.

    Its creation was officially formalized on April 28, 1943 by a special act of the Governor of Galicia, Wächter.
    1. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 22 July 2021 09: 56
      +2
      Quote: Tank jacket
      During a conversation on March 4, 1943, Wächter handed Himmler a letter with a proposal, if Himmler approved it, to discuss with the Ukrainian "guides" the creation of the SS Volunteer Division "Galicia

      After the Stalingrad catastrophe, when it became clear that the war had become protracted, the Nazis began to flirt with the Nazis from the Untermensch. Before the Stalingrad catastrophe, Hitler did not want to hear about the creation of units from the Untermensch. In April 1943, the ROA was also created, but this helped the Germans like a dead poultice.
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 22 July 2021 10: 24
        +1
        Today is a memorable date, happy holiday to you!
  • sen
    sen 22 July 2021 10: 08
    +2
    US and Germany will "take action against Russian destructive activities in Ukraine and abroad"

    Until the end of the contract we still have to live. In any case, if Germany refuses to receive gas through the SP-2, then it will not receive it through Ukraine either. Gazprom may withdraw from the agreement with Ukraine, arguing that if it needs to, it will buy transit at spot trading. Gazprom has all the trump cards in its hands.
  • Rybkin
    Rybkin 22 July 2021 10: 52
    +1
    This Stream does not go down their throats, so they want to stand across it at least like a carcass, even like a scarecrow!