"The Royal Navy can cope with Russian submarines on its own": Britain assessed the military potential of the Russian Federation

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Russian troops found themselves in a position characteristic of the 19th century: huge military potential on the ground and vulnerability at sea, which prevents them from operating far from the country's borders.

This opinion is expressed in the pages of the British edition of the UK Defense Journal.



Moscow's resources today are much smaller than those of the Soviet Union, and it controls much less territory than the Tsarist Russian Empire. However, the regime of President Vladimir Putin has stabilized the country politically and economically.

- the author writes.

According to him, in terms of purchasing power parity, the Russian economy ranks sixth in the world, the country's population is the largest in Europe, and the nuclear arsenal is comparable to the American one. "Aggression" and political actions allowed the Russian Federation to regain its status as a major power in the international arena.

The Russian ground forces and airborne forces have undergone significant modernization over the past decade (especially their artillery - weapons in which Russia has always had the upper hand), and their operational performance has clearly improved.

- the author believes.

The retention of the draft gives Russia the opportunity to train 150 thousand fighters annually and to mobilize, if necessary, 1,5 million reservists no older than 30 years. Many will need retraining, but it will likely only take a few weeks. Huge stocks of military equipment will make it possible to quickly equip new units during their deployment.

Russian all-crushing force is not dead, it just sleeps

- the author considers.

The Air Force has undergone significant upgrades. 71% of combat aircraft are currently of the modern type. However, the Navy, which is impressive only in the coastal zone thanks to new corvettes, MRKs and minesweepers, is not at all the same.

The fleet, although formidable in certain sectors, is no longer a full-fledged ocean power

- the author gives his assessment.



As the author believes, it was reasonable to focus on upgrading the Navy on the modernization of the submarine forces, which, however, today account for less than 20% of the number of Soviet submarines. The surface crew was reduced even more, numbering only 25 large warships (1 nuclear "battle cruiser", 3 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 8 large frigates, 4 frigates and 4 small frigates).

Faced with difficulties in maintaining the current size of its submarine and oceanic surface fleets, Russia (also very wisely) is betting on cruise missiles.

- indicates the author.

The degradation of the Navy imposes restrictions on the actions of troops abroad.

Russian interventions were kept close to home [...] Military power plummets with distance from the country

- the author writes.

In his words, the current situation is similar to the state of affairs in the 19th century: formidable forces on land, but limited at sea; The fleet is focused on protecting the naval flanks of the Russian army and protecting the approaches to the coast, having a certain ability to conduct raids on the high seas. In tsarist times, large, fast, armored cruisers were responsible for conducting raids. Today this role is assigned to submarines.

The Royal Navy and the Air Force, acting together, will be able to deal with them [the submarines] themselves, even without the support of other allies [...] The only problem is the Caliber missiles launched from Russian warships in the Baltic Sea

- the author believes, believing that this justifies the deployment of the British army in Estonia: while NATO holds the north-western coast of this country, the Russian Baltic Fleet will not be able to carry out long-term operations, since it will be divided between its forward operating base in Kaliningrad and its shipyards in St. Petersburg.

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    1. -4
      21 July 2021 22: 45

      Dive, cheap!
      1. KAV
        +15
        22 July 2021 00: 28
        The resources that Moscow possesses today are much smaller than those that the Soviet Union possessed, and it controls a much smaller territory than the Tsarist empire. However, the regime of President Vladimir Putin has stabilized the country politically and economically.
        London's resources today are much smaller than those of the British Empire, and it controls a much smaller area than the British Empire.
        In the rest of the quotes, one could, with difficulty, but agree, overlooking the attempts to manipulate the facts. With the exception of:
        The Royal Navy and the Air Force, acting together, will be able to deal with them [the submarines] themselves, even without the support of other allies [...] The only problem is the Caliber missiles launched from Russian warships in the Baltic Sea
        Well, dear Englishwoman, here you can tear your belly without straining. Even the calibers don't have to be uncovered ...
        1. +12
          22 July 2021 05: 47
          Nobody noticed that the author of the article is trying to try on the forces of our Navy to the strategy of small-brit.
          In our doctrine, there are no plans to conquer any distant or near territories; accordingly, the fleet is developing for this.
          But the Brits still seem to be sick with imeper manners.
        2. 0
          23 July 2021 07: 02
          The Englishwoman forgot to add that one small caliber with a nuclear warhead is enough for her to drown the Englishwoman and not surface.
    2. +32
      21 July 2021 22: 46
      If a military conflict between Russia and NATO becomes inevitable, the Baltic states, as NATO members, will be instantly occupied and Russia will receive a skip link with Kaliningrad faster than the British fleet has time to approach it.
      1. +15
        21 July 2021 23: 31
        The author of the article also understands this:
        while NATO holds the northwest coast of this country

        This is no longer about the whole country, but only about the coast. That is, it is a matter of hours whether they will be able to hold out until the main forces arrive.
        Everyone in the world says:
        - no, they won't.
        1. -29
          21 July 2021 23: 57
          all this is mirrored - everyone in the world says that Kaliningrad is unlikely to hold out until the forces arrive.
          1. +5
            22 July 2021 09: 04
            Quote: Momento
            everyone in the world says

            laughing laughing laughing At the moment, only one muddy svezhereg speaks. Yes
          2. 0
            22 July 2021 17: 10
            you are writing about a local conflict that is unlikely to happen.If there is a conflict situation, this region will not be limited and it will lose the very essence of the struggle in the Kaliningrad region, the struggle will be fought throughout the entire territory of the earth, how can you fight in the area without striking bases in Europe or America? many will no longer have time for the Russian outpost
      2. +7
        21 July 2021 23: 45
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        If a military conflict between Russia and NATO becomes inevitable, the Baltic states, as NATO members, will be instantly occupied and Russia will receive a skip link with Kaliningrad faster than the British fleet has time to approach it.

        Actually the following passage:
        ... this justifies the deployment of the British army in Estonia: as long as NATO holds the northwest coast of this country, the Russian Baltic Fleet will not be able to conduct long-term operations, as it will be divided between its forward operating base in Kaliningrad and its shipyards in St. Petersburg.

        says that the Tribaltika should be preventively cleared to zero.
    3. +2
      21 July 2021 22: 49
      Considering that this justifies the deployment of the British Army in Estonia:

      So what was he talking about "Caliber" there?
      1. +8
        21 July 2021 23: 13
        No matter. He doesn't seem to know about the Zircons.
        Unlike their Air Force Commander.
        1. -2
          24 July 2021 12: 59
          As BE, we do not have at the moment any of this very "zircon". Trials are still underway and there have been only 9 launches. You still remember about the promoted armata, of which we have as many as 20 pieces laughing for a fashion show on Red Square once a year. But how much joy it was, it was not in vain that they developed and how much money they "mastered" for the "best" tank laughing
          Regarding the calibers, I also do not share the enthusiasm of a conventional 70-80gg subsonic cruise missile development. An analogue of the same tomahawks +/- (the most massive missiles in the world). Only with a delay of 50 years.
          In general, in principle, I do not understand all these theoretical comparisons of armies. In a global conflict, if such a thing happens, it will be decided by nuclear weapons and, accordingly, the means of their delivery.
    4. +16
      21 July 2021 22: 54
      No one hopes for the fleet, the last time Russia won an open naval battle 170 years ago. But this does not mean that we cannot turn any enemy to dust.
      1. +2
        22 July 2021 06: 51
        Quote: Dmitry Zverev
        No one hopes for the fleet, the last time Russia won an open naval battle 170 years ago. But this does not mean that we cannot turn any enemy to dust.

        Dmitry, you forgot about the episode with the Georgians)
        1. +1
          23 July 2021 08: 07
          you forgot about the episode with the Georgians
          To be fair, this episode is not indicative at all. There, the difference in the potential of the Navy of both sides was such that the question was only in time, when the Black Sea Fleet reached the strike line. By definition, there was no question of any battle in which heroism and conquest could and should be shown.
    5. YOU
      +13
      21 July 2021 22: 59
      Well, in some ways, the British author may be right. But Russia does not seek expansion in distant seas. And "the British lion is not the same." Of course they amuse themselves with a fairy tale, they say, let's go "to deal with China." But in fact, they can also forget about the world's oceans. Well, about the Russian submarine fleet, let them remember the recent Mediterranean Sea. They are still wondering whether there was a Russian boat or not. And half of the arsenal of any Russian SSBN is enough to forget about the "great Britain". So what does it have to do with Baltika and Calibers.
      1. +2
        22 July 2021 15: 25
        Quote: YOU
        So what does it have to do with Baltika and Calibers.

        The Anglican Autonomous Republic firmly believes that in a mess we will look at them like Argentines ... (But even one Argentine boat made a rough spot. DPL San Juan (prehistoric building!) Circled around her finger all the salts of PLOs hunting her). And Tomi was very lucky that the French bookmarks worked on the Exocets. Therefore, none of them exploded!
        And our aerospace forces, for sure, will be able to fly through the North and Norwegian Seas to the point of solving the problem ... And the northern 885M and 949A will certainly try. And when the BRPL is revived in the Baltic in Kronstadt, then its units will also gladly take part in the hunt and launch of the 3M14 at the Tom bases. So let the autArt not roll his lips to the squadron battle of the dreadnoughts! History is good for universities, so that its lessons can be worn on a mustache ... Let it be better to remember the horror of wolf packs U-Bote Doenitsa ...
        The strategius is unfinished! am
        1. 0
          23 July 2021 08: 10
          So let the autArt not roll his lips to the squadron battle of the dreadnoughts!
          Come on. Let him roll his lip into a squadron battle of dreadnoughts. How many of them do the British have now?
    6. +13
      21 July 2021 23: 04
      "The resources that Moscow possesses today are much smaller than those that the Soviet Union possessed, and it controls much less territory than the Tsarist empire." laughing laughing laughing
      Let's compare the resources of the British empire with today's small Britain, which has no navy, no army, no air force, and no territory. And we will laugh for a long time.
      Surely, whose cow would moan ...
      1. +8
        21 July 2021 23: 11
        But Britain has - gender equality, LGBT - a large number. They will show it to the whole world.) You'll see.)
        1. +6
          21 July 2021 23: 12
          And a red-haired bugger, as an analogue of weapons of mass destruction laughing
      2. +5
        21 July 2021 23: 17
        Unfortunately, the Englishwoman did not lose her desire to shit.
        1. +5
          21 July 2021 23: 21
          And without this they cannot. They are not capable of anything else.
          1. +5
            21 July 2021 23: 21
            And such an enemy cannot be underestimated. hi
            1. +6
              21 July 2021 23: 24
              I am sure that 2-3 ICBMs are on duty for this "mighty empire" and, if necessary, this spit on the map will disappear within 10-15 minutes
              1. +3
                21 July 2021 23: 25
                It's a pity to spend ICBMs on them. All the best to the States.
                But Zircons and Calibers are just that. bully
                One Ash Britain is enough for sure.
                1. mvg
                  -15
                  22 July 2021 01: 50
                  One Ash Britain is enough for sure.

                  I forget everything, but how many aircraft carriers and ships (combat-ready) of the 1st rank does the Russian Navy have? And what about modern ships? Is it worth opening the other palm, or will there be enough fingers on one?
                  This is in total, and not only on the Northern Fleet
                  England has a decent fleet of 2 new avics, 6 destroyers (new), frigates, 6 SSBNs with Trident 2D5, 5 MAPLs (also new), and quite decent aviation on Typhoon Block 3
                  Well, the land, so let someone cross over to the island first ... probably Ivan Gren 1171 will be used.
                  What kind of Ash, let it pass normally at first, and not for show, arm himself with something more impressive than Caliber, then yes, maybe he will approach Britain, but I doubt it.
                  PS: Uryakalok, no less than on the Censor, probably. It remains only to sew so many hats.
                  1. -7
                    22 July 2021 03: 34
                    alas, here are some hats.
                    1. mvg
                      -6
                      22 July 2021 03: 45
                      hats.

                      Well, why, many are sure that 1144 Peter, plus 1164 Ustinov, plus 1155 (not modernized) and the only (relatively new, though it took 11 years to build) 22350 Gorshkov is just an irresistible force. And of course, where can we go without it, 855 Severodvinsk, without counter-torpedoes, but opposite 5 Astyuts and Type 23 frigates, plus a dozen Orions.
                      Khan to the adversaries, they will immediately put in their pants and raise their hands, forgetting Nelson and other heroes of their country.
                      1. +4
                        22 July 2021 08: 39
                        Are you still insisting on an ICBM for Britain, Captain Evidence? laughing
                        Comparing military forces by accounting is a favorite pastime of accountants. wink
                        A lot of things can be said in response, but I don't see the point.
                        If you remember Nelson, then remember Suvorov: "not by number, but by skill."
                        Nobody will report to you about Caliber-M in detail. But with them Ash will wipe out all of Britain in one salvo from a very decent distance.
                        As for our fleet in general, the British, unlike you, take it seriously and are building up the potential of their nuclear forces. For the first time in decades.
                        And you can continue to lament further. bully
                      2. +1
                        22 July 2021 12: 10
                        Minus further and read articles on VO. laughing
                        The British Air Force is forced to return to Cold War tactics due to modern Russian cruise missiles that could be deployed in Kaliningrad. In this case, the United Kingdom will be within reach, and combat aircraft located at only two military bases can simply be destroyed at the very beginning of the confrontation.

                        According to the Chief of Staff of the British Air Force, which has changed over the past 15 years The "trajectory" of Russia's actions should force Great Britain be creative and consider the current situation as a “national challenge”.

                        In Kaliningrad, no one will place the CD, but they already exist in the fleet.
                        1. mvg
                          +1
                          24 July 2021 04: 25
                          Less further

                          Not a single minus all the time. There are other "gentlemen" for this. I never minus an opponent, even if the oe is wrong or rude. I don't remember a single incident. Only frank it..v and uryakalok.
                      3. +6
                        22 July 2021 13: 32
                        Quote: mvg
                        and the only one (relatively new, though it took 11 years to build) 22350 Gorshkov

                        Why alone? If there are two of them with the formation, and the third starts sea trials from day to day? And there are five more in the construction. And two more in the order. The engines have gone to them, so they will be completed.
                        And why bother with Britain's fleet? For her, and one Tu-160 with the Kh-102 is enough with the head.
                        Or a volley of one "Varshavyanka" from the base without leaving.
                        And if you want to go to the island itself, then there is just a tunnel dug with a VERY good carrying capacity. But this is only after a pacifying volley with special means.
                        And it is more convenient to travel to Europe on dry land. And also after foreplay.

                        And why discuss a commercial with a stupid English girl?
                        There will be another fleet - there are already 22350 destroyers 24M. gathered to build.
                        In three or four shipyards.
                        Maybe they will buy frigates and UDC from China for the Pacific Fleet, so as not to wait long.
                        1. mvg
                          +1
                          22 July 2021 20: 55
                          For her, and one Tu-160 with the Kh-102 is enough with the head.

                          Horror stories again? X-102 subsonic CD. Destroyers Daring are the best air defense destroyers in the world. Radar station Tyles, one of the best in the world. SAMP-T air defense missile systems with Aster-30 shot down a maneuvering supersonic target (one of the few in the world, for example, Polyment-Redoubts are hardly capable of this). There are Orions, there is AWACS. CRs will be seen far away, they will fly for a long time. So even a salvo of 12 missile launchers from the Tu-160 is not an option.
                          PS: Aviation (strategic) is the weakest link in a future war, it is painfully vulnerable.
                          Or a volley of one "Varshavyanka" from the base without leaving.

                          Varshavyanka, excuse me, what will I "salvo" with Caliber again? You, forgive me, confused something .. 3M54, the one that the anti-ship missile, flies about 300 km .. The variant with nuclear warheads did not run through the network. They may not be shot down, but the option that will reach it is also not great.
                          This is 636.6 you need to lie down so well, then float up and hit. The odds are close to "0". With its autonomy and speed.
                          You must have been confused with the "great and terrible" 855 Ash. Where there are 36 cells for Caliber.
                          There will be another fleet - there are already 22350 destroyers 24M. gathered to build

                          By 2050 year? wink And all other countries will rest on their laurels ...
                          PPPS: We take the situation "HERE AND NOW" if tomorrow is a war (conflict "
                          At the moment, the Northern Military District (consider the Northern Fleet "practically incapable of combat. Gorshkov 22350 are being driven on tests, and 1144, 1164,1155, 30 are 40-2000 year old ships that have almost never undergone normal modernization. And some in XNUMX generally dangled several years at the pier.
                          These are just facts, without any mischief.
                        2. +1
                          22 July 2021 23: 54
                          Quote: mvg
                          Horror stories again? X-102 subsonic CD. Destroyers Daring are the best air defense destroyers in the world. Radar station Tyles, one of the best in the world.

                          I'm sorry, are we at war with England, or with "Daring"?
                          If with "Daring", then for him a few anti-ship missiles will be enough. And he has no strike weapon, so there will be little harm from him until they sink.
                          Quote: mvg
                          There are Orions, there is AWACS. CRs will be seen far away, they will fly for a long time.

                          In fact, the KR X-101 \ 102 is made using stealth technology and it will not be possible to detect them "far away" by definition. Even just because of the used radio frequency range in their radar.
                          How will they find out about this salvo if it is carried out over the territory of the Russian Federation?
                          Will they keep their AWACS aircraft constantly in the air?
                          From what distance will they be able to detect a low-altitude, inconspicuous target?
                          Twelve goals?
                          Or 24, we don't mind. feel
                          Quote: mvg
                          : Aviation (strategic) is the weakest link in a future war, it is painfully vulnerable.

                          For the first or preemptive strike, it is quite a tool.
                          Quote: mvg
                          Varshavyanka, excuse me, what will I "salvo" with Caliber again?

                          Yes
                          And what else is that?
                          The range is quite enough to shoot at Foggy Albion with full ammunition without leaving your base.
                          Reload and shoot again.
                          Quote: mvg
                          The variant with YaBCH did not run through the network.

                          Not every good thing should be flapped in the wind.
                          I'll tell you a secret - for "Onyx" there is also YABC. Yes
                          And very good.
                          And "Zircon" will definitely have it.
                          Quote: mvg
                          You must have been confused with the "great and terrible" 855 Ash. Where there are 36 cells for Caliber.

                          Ash-M has 40 cells for Onyx \ Zircon or 50 for Caliber. The very first has a smaller amount, it does not count.
                          But if you do not like the RC for this mission (and I wanted to save money on England), then there is nothing easier to replace this batch with the "Dagger" from the MiG-31K. They are already in the north.
                          And nuclear weapons for the "Daggers" are also provided. "
                          Otherwise it is impossible to live with wolves - to wear "Dagger".
                          Well, if it becomes completely unbearable, then a pair of SLBMs ("Sineva", "Liner" or "Bulava" - no difference) will close the issue with England once and for all.
                          Then you will have to chase after their ships a little.
                          Quote: mvg
                          There will be another fleet - there are already 22350 destroyers 24M. gathered to build

                          By 2050 year?

                          They promise earlier. That is why they intend to build at several shipyards at once. Yantar, Severnaya Verf and Admiralteyskies will definitely participate. Problems with the power plant are a thing of the past, the industry has already mastered them, now it's up to the series. And the ships themselves, when they are serial and the technical process is debugged, we built quite quickly until recently. So the Black Sea frigates were built for 3 - 3,5 years each. This is me for a guide. The delays at 22350 were due to the unavailability of the air defense system. Then, due to the absence of the power plant. Now all this is there.
                          Quote: mvg
                          Gorshkov 22350 is being driven by trials

                          Besides him there is "Admiral Kasatonov", and "Admiral Golovko" is going to sea trials the other day. Delivery to the fleet - the end of this - the beginning of next year. And then every year 1 - 2 frigates. They are on the stocks and are already receiving their power plants.
                          The modernization program began for all 1155.
                          "Nakhimov" in a year and a half will return to service in an updated form.
                          "Ash" and "Borei" from this year will annually replenish the fleet. And from the modernization MAPL and SSGN will come out.
                          And the new Su-30SM2 will begin to enter the naval aviation. First of all, to the Baltic.
                          Quote: mvg
                          These are just facts, without any mischief.

                          Yes, I, too, have no blows in my pocket, just when a state has a strategic nuclear forces in three components and the world's largest arsenal of nuclear warheads, annoying shoals in other branches of the military can be, if not forgivable, then at least not critical. There is time for corrections, because no one wants nuclear ashes on their heads.
                          hi
                        3. mvg
                          +2
                          23 July 2021 00: 19
                          Yes, I, too, without a blow in my pocket

                          We don't know each other hi but you are an incredible optimist .. Somewhere in the middle of 2010, I accidentally served a couple of defense factories in Vaska St. Petersburg in the field of IT. Since I worked as a system administrator, there were no special secrets for me. The condition was depressing. Been to Kirovsky. And he worked at one more, near St. Petersburg (partially fulfilling the orders of the Ministry of Defense). I don’t know, of course, how things are now, I have retired a little into construction, but you are very optimistic about everything. Well, or I, taking into account family problems, began to look at everything so pessimistic.
                          I could argue for every position, but I'm tired of it.
                          PS: There will be no war in the West, or it will turn into World War III. Rather, there will be problems with Japan in the Far East. And for the third time I say, you are very optimistic about all positions, starting with the Tu-160 with the Kh-102, 636.6 with the 3M14 / 54, the MiG-31K, 855, 22350 .. I personally don't see a single wunderwafe here. Again hi
                        4. 0
                          23 July 2021 01: 55
                          So I don't consider them wunderwaves, they are tools for a certain job. If they are, you can work, if not ... everything is more complicated at once.
                          Far East is our weak point and has always been - far away, sparsely populated, complicated logistics, harsh climate. There are few ships and aircraft there, it is especially difficult there without MRA, which could soften a lot. But in Transbaikalia, about 20 MiG-31K have been deployed today. Of course, they are unlikely to help on ships, but on bases and infrastructure - very much even. And not necessarily conventional warheads. After all, the Constitution allows this completely, in the event of aggression. In this case, Japan won't need much.
                          With ships for the Pacific Fleet it is more difficult, here it is wiser to return to the idea of ​​5-6 years ago, about the purchase of a batch of frigates (8 pieces) from China, type. 054A and UDC type 071 (2 pcs.). Why the last time it didn't work out, I don't know, China seemed to be ready to build even more (20 frigates and 4 UDC), their newspapers wrote about this ... Maybe there is a threat of sanctions from the United States, or maybe because they could not agree on the modernization required by Russia base project. The Chinese were ready to build hulls with engines, energy and all general ship systems, and then we ourselves will retrofit and arm them. This could have been done at the Vladivostok Shipyard - with his successful modernization of the Shaposhnikov, he proved that he is capable of such a labor feat.
                          But that time everything was deadlocked and nothing came of it.
                          I think it's time to get back to this idea. The Chinese build quickly, the modernization of the Vladivostok Shipyard also completed quickly (3 years). So in the shortest possible time it would be possible to plug a hole in ships of this class and calmly wait for the serial 22350M.
                          And the cost of Chinese ships is less than to build at home. The benefit is twofold.
                          The frigates can be redeveloped for our weapons - in front of the wheelhouse, place 3 UKSK instead of the "Calm" UVP, and the Redut air defense missile launcher can be placed behind the wheelhouse - where the Chinese have their anti-ship missile launchers inclined. The radar should be set to "Polyment", well, the GAK from 20380 (the larger one will not fit there), "Package", "Duet" ... request and voila.
                          I do not see any other way to quickly strengthen the Pacific Fleet; Baltic shipyards alone cannot provide the entire Fleet quickly.
                          China will also be in the hands of this - in Russia as an ally, he is now interested, so let him hold it together, for himself with benefit.
                          And of course - aviation.
                          Moreover, the sea.

                          It is possible to love all this, as is often the case in recent times, to love all of this ... but this is already about the goal-setting of power.
                          hi
                        5. mvg
                          +2
                          23 July 2021 02: 40
                          I have spoken on this topic. The idea is dead end. Neither 20 nor 200 054A corvettes will save the day. But 3-4 Su-34 regiments with adapted Brahmos (not Onyx / Yakhonts) can save. And MRBM type DF-21/26 will be rescued in mobile complexes. Especially if there is a hypersonic glider.
                          We will never reach Japan in ships. Her fleet is even stronger than the English one. At times with it.
                          It is enough to have 5-6 frigates and a dozen and a half corvettes there. Plus MAPL. No 1164, 1155.1, 1134, 956 (which goes nowhere beyond the bank). And all this under the cover of BALS
                          PS: Only protective functions.
                        6. 0
                          23 July 2021 03: 48
                          Quote: mvg
                          corvettes 054A

                          Still, frigates, albeit fairly light.
                          I also believe that the stake should be placed on aviation. Moreover, on the MRA and on the basis of the Su-34M \ M2 (M2 is a heavier and more lifting version with a larger radius and more powerful engines). I have spoken about this more than once.
                          Frigates are needed more for ASW and long-term presence in duty areas in any weather. Corvettes are not very good for that.
                          Quote: mvg
                          And IRBM type DF-21/26 will save

                          There are none yet, but they are quite capable of replacing the MiG-31K with "Daggers". If desired, the "Dagger" can be equipped with a glider.
                          Quote: mvg
                          We will never reach Japan in ships.

                          We do not need to get them, but we need to cover our bases from sea areas, including providing radar control from positions in sea areas. Provide PLO and be the carrier of RCC and PLUR.

                          Quote: mvg
                          It is enough to have 5-6 frigates there

                          Not enough. We have huge inland waters of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, two main naval bases at great distances. Therefore, you need to have 8 - 12 frigates, 4 - 6 at each base, to ensure constant watch at sea and in readiness to go to sea on alert to provide PLO and RTR.
                          Quote: mvg
                          Protective functions only.

                          We will not be able to do more there for a long time.
                          But.
                          In those regions, very serious uncles with the correct names and assets - Rosneft and NOVATEK - have invested very seriously and continue to invest. They have VERY big plans there, they are creating the most powerful industries that provide their infrastructure ... and all this will need to be protected.
                          And the assets of these people will be protected.
                          This means that there is hope for strengthening this direction.
                        7. 0
                          24 July 2021 12: 23
                          Aster-30 shot down a maneuvering supersonic target (one of the few in the world, for example, the Polyment-Redoubts are hardly capable of this).

                          9M96D flies at 150 km (Aster-30 - 120 km),
                          max speed 9M96D 2100 m / s, (Aster-30 - 1530 m / s), etc., etc. hi
                        8. mvg
                          +1
                          24 July 2021 12: 37
                          9M96D flies at 150 km

                          All anti-ship missiles have been flying over 150+ km for a long time, which means we no longer create a threat to the launch vehicles, which means we will fight against the anti-ship missiles themselves. Since we are flying towards, the speed of the missile defense system is on the drum. In addition, such parameters as maximum overload, fuel energy, GOS, and interception algorithms come out ... plus the speed of response (software, processor)
                          And for 9 years we have been looking for algorithms for the transition from one AFAR plane to another canvas. SAMP-T shot down supersonic maneuvering anti-ship missiles (Mosquito for example). Polyment did not do this, at least in the last tests he beat targets at 100m !!! altitude, which flew directly on the course, subsonic. He also finished them off with artillery.
                          PS: What do you think, if Polyment-Redoubt collides with a Japanese supersonic anti-ship missile system flying 3-5 meters above sea level in battle, what will happen? We did not get such tests in the open and unopened press. Yes, even if it is Harpoon or the Norwegian Naval, which fly low, low ..
                          I would like to see how Redoubt will shoot down an airplane maneuvering in an anti-missile maneuver at 150 km. The answer is no way, the energy will not be enough even for 70 km. At 150, only Count Zeppelin can be obtained.
                          Tired of reading for 150, 400, 600 km .. Would write at once - A LOT. Here, a couple of VO users generally believe that S-400s are beating ICBMs over 400 km.
                          And my compliments to you hi
                        9. 0
                          25 July 2021 13: 21
                          Colleague!
                          By and large, no one conducts real tests of interceptor missiles and no one is ready to reflect anti-ship missiles in real conditions. IMHO.
                          It's just that thanks to the 2 authors of VO we are aware of the shortcomings of Russian tests, but not so much aware of the problems of the same British.
                          If you have examples of testing their air defense / missile defense in close to real conditions - share.
                          Then there will be something to talk about. hi
                          For now:
                          The Pentagon's missile defense agency was able to confirm the defeat of only one of two targets when testing the SM-6 anti-missile system of the ship's Aegis system.

                          The tests were carried out northwest of the Hawaiian Islands. Four SM-6 Dual IIs were to intercept two short-range ballistic missiles. The military, "based on initial observations," stated that "one target was successfully intercepted." However, now they cannot "confirm that the second target was destroyed." The Pentagon called the current tests "the most difficult" since the start of such tests, reports TASS.

                          https://vz.ru/news/2021/7/25/1110657.html
                      4. 0
                        26 July 2021 16: 39
                        Especially delivered by fans of Daggers and Gauges. Directly a new sect, for which the very fact of their presence, like a myrrh-streaming icon, will save everyone, heal everyone. But target designation problems do not exist.
                  2. +4
                    22 July 2021 08: 43
                    Uuhh ...
                    Great Britain's fleet with two aviks.
                    As many as two dozen combat-ready pennants.
                    We are afraid, already horror.

                    Would write about the Amers and Chinese with their three hundred pennants with a hook, then yes.

                    There is incredible strength.
                    And comparing our fleet and the British is ridiculous.
                  3. +2
                    22 July 2021 16: 34
                    Quote: mvg
                    England has a pretty decent fleet ...
                    Well, yes ... But you don't need to engage in sycophancy, the owners will not appreciate it. Yes
                    Tom has not 6, but only 4 SSBNs with AM SLBMs ...
                    Quote: mvg
                    What an Ash ...
                    Exactly - not a tree like mvg! This is our 4th generation APRK. And there is already a modification "M", which is no worse than the Wolf ... But, unlike the Sivulfs, there will be 10-12 units. The quality of the "machine" is evidenced by the fact that even the commander of the submarine forces of the US Atlantean Fleet placed a model of it in front of his office so that all those who entered would realize the danger from the depths ... for the most powerful fleet of planet Earth today.
                    AHA.
                    1. mvg
                      -1
                      22 July 2021 21: 18
                      Tom has not 6, but only 4 SSBNs with AM SLBMs

                      Well, there are 4 Vanguards, we can add that until recently (they recently filmed and did something with them) there were only 3 heads on Tridents, and not all Tridents were on board. But this is Trident, not Mace. There the launch probability is close to 99%, 154 successively successful .. The mace flew as and wherever it wanted.
                      Exactly - not a tree like mvg!

                      Thank you for the "tree" hi , so they did not call escho. Neither at school (mat and physical Olympiad took), nor in football (played for the institute and the plant), nor at work (my district became 2 out of 17 after joining the KSZN)
                      Who there compared Ash to Wolves? Really YOURSELF belay But dear Klimov and Timokhin, they write something else.
                      Were you in the office of the USA Atlas commander in chief, or is there a photo of his office?

                      Was he the one who installed the model 855M in the corridor? laughing terrible horror. How many combat exits does Ash have? In my opinion, so far not a single one.
                      My relative took this boat, not very happy, although when it was being built he praised it very much. But 955 scolded. It turned out the other way around.
                      But thanks for the comment anyway. hi
                  4. +1
                    23 July 2021 10: 50
                    England has a decent fleet ..., 6 destroyers (new)

                    But in fact:
                    The destroyer "Defender", which provoked a border incident in the territorial waters of Russia, remained the only one operating among the ships of its type in the Royal British Navy, the Defense News portal reported.

                    According to the British Minister for Defense Procurement Jeremy Quinn, the Royal Navy has a total of six Type 45 destroyers, but three of them are docked for maintenance, the destroyer Dontless is undergoing refitting, and the fifth ship of this class, Diamond, has collided with technical problems while hiking in the Indo-Pacific region

                    wink
      3. +1
        22 July 2021 14: 58
        Only, unfortunately, they always laugh - all the resources (read the oligarchs) work for the British Crown and they live there too, and we even buy all the means of production from them and their empires ... so it's better not to stutter about a cow. .. Britain and still practically rules the world together with the USA. Even if India officially has freedom, Indonesia, Australia, etc. they are all under British rule.
      4. 0
        23 July 2021 08: 13
        Let's compare the resources of the British empire with today's small britain
        And let's compare the industrial potential in the REAL sector. And also the share in the GDP of industry that can be mobilized is agriculture. Without the financial sector, service sector ...
    7. +4
      21 July 2021 23: 09
      "Royal Navy" reminds of a queen. Physical capabilities.
      1. -2
        21 July 2021 23: 22
        what, excuse me, opportunities?
        1. YOU
          0
          21 July 2021 23: 26
          Well, in the sense of apparently no respect and everyone strives to offend. Like a king without entourage and protection.
    8. +8
      21 July 2021 23: 33
      The Nuclear-Filled Ten Gauges are much cheaper. than 10 aircraft carriers, but turn an island the size of Great Britain into ash, and, in total, 10 minutes. The Queen's great armada will forever hang out in the oceans, since there will be nowhere to dock.
      1. -8
        22 July 2021 00: 04
        all these are fairy tales - there will be no nuclear conflicts. too high a price even for the losing side.
        1. 0
          22 July 2021 13: 54
          The presence of the baton suggests that it will not be used. BUT MAYS when .... And here the loser will, of course, be the one who has the most of it. And who has a full purse and life is beautiful. Here he is, and let him be careful. And the beggar has nothing to lose.
    9. +6
      22 July 2021 00: 33
      "This opinion is expressed in the pages of the British edition of the UK Defense Journal."
      now if their warriors thought so it would be happy, well nafig - read our press,
      The secretary of the Moscow court with a hole punch "filed" a CD with evidence to the case. According to lawyers, this is not a one-off case, but a common practice.
    10. +1
      22 July 2021 00: 34
      Britain still behaves as if the sun still does not set over it. A small island torn apart by contradictions ... covered by one or two strategic missiles.
    11. +3
      22 July 2021 01: 08
      This opinion is expressed in the pages of the British edition of the UK Defense Journal.

      The author's name and surname are not indicated.
      The article is much better than one from American magazines when they compared 1.700 F and Russian planes.
      But the author simply projects the Anglisisko worldview in Russia. Ruska foreign policy THERE IS NO AGGRESSIVE TYRANIA OF ANGLOSAKS, BUT INTERNATIONAL COOPERATION OF EQUAL POWERS !!!
      For this reason, and such a fleet. RUSSIA DOESN'T NEED SUCH A FLEET TO DESTROY STATES AND START TYRANIA IN STATES WHICH ARE AT ANOTHER END OF THE WORLD.
      As for they themselves cope with the Russian fleet laughing laughing laughing
      So for the author to know this time Britain and the weight of the British fleet will be destroyed within a few hours! drinks
      They planned well that the weight of NATO would perish so that they would live ??? But there are not many fools left in this world, and the new Hitler will be installed in Germany and not really easy, otherwise Polaki and Rumuni and Natsiks in Ukraine would have been replaced by force of Hitler and Prus.
      So Evil Britam remained in the USA, and until 1 ship arrives with help from the USA, THREAD OF BRITAIN THREAD OF BRITISH FLEET WILL NOT BE! wink
      1. +2
        22 July 2021 01: 20
        Who will stand on ceremony with you Evil Brity this time ??? Who is one of the voevod to allow LUXUZA to lose their people as in the Second World War ???
        WILL JUST DESTROY IN A FEW HOURS !!!
    12. mvg
      +1
      22 July 2021 01: 35
      Experts of the level of our Sivkov .. But this figure also writes somewhere. I don't believe the translator translates that way. And the level of the article for Yandex.Zen.
      Can you find a couple more technically strong authors? Linnik, Andrey, Klimov, Timokhin ... there is no one else. We have several very strong readers, maybe they will try their hand at literature?
    13. IC
      -1
      22 July 2021 02: 35
      Why discuss the obvious stupidity, suitable only for the yellow press.
    14. -1
      22 July 2021 07: 43
      What can they do there with their fleet payroll?
      Who do they want to fool? 20 ships, 10 submarines.
      Oh well...
    15. 0
      22 July 2021 08: 52
      I read the comments, they are mostly urapatriotic, I will not compare the military potentials of Russia and England, but let me remind you about other things, how many of our "golden youth" have studied and are studying in prestigious British universities? But their youth does not come to study with us, this time. How much real estate in England do our oligarchs and those in power have? And I have not heard that English millionaires have invested in our real estate. Maybe some of the English millionaires are buying Russian football clubs?
      But this "golden youth" trained in the British penates after a while will be in the government and the State Duma and in the Kremlin ... hi
      1. 0
        22 July 2021 22: 11
        Wise thoughts are expressed.
        I absolutely agree.
        Unfortunately, there is nothing we can do about it. Is that what to stir up revolutionary measures. Which no one will support. And there are no Lenins / Stalins on the horizon. Capitalism / democracy in the yard.
        Therefore, one has to proceed from the possible possibilities.
    16. +2
      22 July 2021 09: 57
      formidable forces on land, but limited at sea;

      Victory on land means a decisive victory in the war as a whole, including at sea and in the air.
      But victory at sea and in the air does not always mean victory in the war as a whole.
    17. +2
      22 July 2021 10: 00
      German: My grandmother had 3 toilets: gold, silver and faience. But when Russian tanks entered the city, she put them in her pants right in the corridor. request
    18. 0
      22 July 2021 10: 21
      Everyone will not play enough war.
    19. +2
      22 July 2021 11: 35
      the British "expert" slept on the couch for at least 15 years. I woke up and gave out patriotic nonsense to my readers.
    20. 0
      22 July 2021 22: 02
      Why should Royal Navy cope with Russian
      ships?
      Somewhere it was reported about the likelihood of an attack by the Russian Federation on foggy Albion?! ..
      For what purpose? What will it give?
      Well, except for the urine of the capitalist in his own lair ... request
      Let's attack Scapa flow?
      Cuba! This is much more interesting.
    21. 0
      23 July 2021 18: 40
      They are interesting citizens, it was always clear to everyone that Russia has the largest stocks of TNW for a reason, almost everything in our country can be equipped with nuclear warheads, even artillery of not the largest calibers, even mines. Well, this expert should give an answer to the eternal question of the United States and their other vassals, how not to run into this very TNW. Given the situation that exists, no one in the convention will play, a massive thinning strike on some of the most suffering, and further on according to the situation. This question should torment the West in nightmares, as well as its experts.
    22. 0
      24 July 2021 00: 22
      Russia's Baltic Fleet will not be able to conduct long-term operations, as it will be divided between its forward operating base in Kaliningrad and its shipyards in St. Petersburg.


      For some reason, the British expert does not say that in order to cut off the Baltic states from Poland and seize the Suwalki "corridor" we need only a few hours.
      It takes 3-5 days for Russian tank regiments to pass from St. Petersburg to Kaliningrad along the Baltic coast, and all "Chukhonsk" national armed forces will be polished by 2-3 echelons of motorized infantry within a week.
    23. 0
      24 July 2021 00: 40
      Yes, the British fleet now and the fleet is ashamed, and they are still trying to threaten, and someone else, Russia, they have flowed the roof at all, sympathize with these accomplices.
    24. 0
      24 July 2021 12: 56
      British analysts' grief is akin to "British scientists" ... no one is going to chase British vessels across the seas and oceans like in the 17th century ... RUSSIA has something to sink any vessel anywhere in the world without leaving home ...
    25. 0
      25 July 2021 22: 57
      The situation is stalemate, in fact, in the event of a conflict with NATO, I hope common sense will prevail, and Russian generals will not seize any territory in Europe. But we will have to destroy the infrastructure, weapons, and, what can I say, a significant part of the population. Especially in the Baltics and Norway. There is no other option. It is strange that their people do not understand this. Under this and the weapon you need to stock up on the appropriate. But in the Russian Federation they stubbornly create and equip the army with weapons adapted for police functions, clearly with an eye to occupation successes. Dead-end branch or someone wants to use the army for their own purposes, the dumbass does not understand that it will not work. The fleet is really goofy. It would be better if they made another twenty sharks. And the rest of the ships are scrapped, there is still little use, and in fact, the British, if anything, they will sink all this junk in a couple of days. From the outside it seems that rare goofs are doing all this.
    26. 0
      26 July 2021 18: 17
      Yeah! It's hard to admit your decrepitude, once upon a time, the "queen of the seas".
    27. 0
      31 July 2021 14: 42
      Strange sayings of the British. They continue to think at times until 1940. At times, geographical discoveries and colonial conquests, as well as a shortage of resources in the metropolis. To solve these problems, the British invested huge amounts of money in building a fleet by plundering the colonies. The lack of understanding that Russia had to solve other problems at sea led to the fact that the USSR wasted huge amounts of money. Today, the main task of Russia is to protect its territorial waters, primarily on the northern sea route, and to create a submarine fleet - carriers of nuclear weapons in order to keep the territory of our potential enemy under control. So they build such ships accordingly. And don't give in to provocations.
    28. 0
      1 August 2021 18: 36
      Lie, hypocrisy and the principle of divide, and rule - these are the tools with the help of which these insignificant little shaves ruled the world. But, their time has gone irrevocably into oblivion. Now this country is just a small island that can be destroyed within half an hour.

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