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The LMS-2 aircraft designed to replace the Kukuruznik An-901 was shown at the MAKS-2021 air show

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Created to replace the legendary An-2, the new LMS-901 aircraft was shown at the MAKS-2021 international aerospace show, which began in Zhukovsky outside Moscow. Flight tests of the first prototype are due to begin this year.


The development of a new light aircraft, which in the future will replace the An-2 "Kukuruznik", is being carried out by the "Baikal-Engineering" company, which presented the aircraft at the air show. The presented prototype has a General Electric H80-200 engine, but in the future it will be replaced by the Russian VK-800S. LMS-901 has a length of 12,2 meters, a height of 3,7 meters and a wingspan of 16,5 meters. Maximum takeoff weight - 4,8 tons, speed - up to 300 km / h. The maximum flight range is 3 thousand km. Seats 9 passengers and can carry up to 2 tons of payload.

At the moment, it is known that in 2022 the second prototype of the aircraft should join the flight tests. Further plans have not been disclosed, but the aircraft should go into serial production in 2024, at least this task was set by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

In the summer of 2019, the Ministry of Industry and Trade announced a tender for the development of a light multi-functional aircraft for nine passengers to replace the An-2. The winner was LLC "Baikal-engineering" - a subsidiary of the Ural plant of civil aviation... At the same time, the Ministry of Industry and Trade abandoned the single-engine TVS-2021DTS "Baikal" aircraft, which was planned for serial production from 2, the development of which went to the creation of the LMS-901 "Baikal".
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  1. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 21 July 2021 12: 41
    +4
    ***
    An-2 - We are still flying ...
    ***
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 21 July 2021 20: 57
      0
      All the same, they cut their own! good
      Didn't slip down to the Chinese clones of An-2 - there were such rumors sad
  2. SERGE ANT
    SERGE ANT 21 July 2021 12: 45
    +10
    to replace the "Corn" An-2
    Is AN-2 leaving? Legend! Reliable and trouble-free hard worker. Seemingly the time has come ..
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 July 2021 13: 03
      +15
      Quote: SERGE ant
      Is AN-2 leaving? Legend! Reliable and trouble-free hard worker. Seemingly the time has come ..

      A trouble-free work air horse, I remember from childhood in the Smolensk region, and passengers were transported to regional centers, and all the "chemical smoke" hung on them, and in each flying club parachutists were trained, and medical assistance was provided. He served the country with faith and truth. Special thanks to the plowmen of the sky who flew on these beautiful airplanes.
      1. Bat
        Bat 21 July 2021 13: 15
        +3
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Trouble-free work air horse

        Even knocking down the SMOKERS, they still benefit. The location of the Armenian air defense was revealed by them.
        1. Babay Atasovich
          Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 14: 12
          +2
          An-2 in North Korea is still in service with nurs. wink
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 21 July 2021 15: 43
            +2
            The first impression of a NOT a specialist: the plane is smaller, and all the declared data are much higher than that of the famous An-2. If the new bird also flies, is well serviced, then you need to put it into production as soon as possible!
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 21 July 2021 15: 58
              +4
              The first impression of NOT a specialist: the plane is smaller, and all the declared data are much higher

              9 passengers versus 12 for An-2. As written in previous topics 9 in accordance with modern flight standards.
              1. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov 21 July 2021 16: 29
                0
                Quote: alexmach
                9 passengers versus 12 for An-2. As written in previous topics 9 in accordance with modern flight standards.

                It was somewhat surprising that 9 passengers versus 12, although the carrying capacity is 2000 versus 1600 kg. But the task was just for 9 passengers! Why? Do not quite understand. But the speed is higher, and the range is much greater: 3000 versus 845 km.
                1. Smirnov Sergey
                  Smirnov Sergey 21 July 2021 16: 54
                  +7
                  According to modern standards, no more than 9 passengers can be transported on one engine. Nothing is said about the cargo.
                2. faiver
                  faiver 21 July 2021 17: 06
                  +5
                  I was somewhat surprised that 9 passengers versus 12
                  - there, in my opinion, the question is in certification, such as a different class of aircraft and a 9-seat one is much easier to certify
                3. Babay Atasovich
                  Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 18: 02
                  +1
                  Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                  But the speed is higher, and the range is much greater: 3000 versus 845 km.

                  And how did the range drop from 1200 to 850 ??? Head-on under 50 km / h is taken into account or spare in 500 km ?! laughing
                  1. Vladimir Mashkov
                    Vladimir Mashkov 21 July 2021 18: 29
                    -2
                    Quote: Babay Atasovich
                    Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                    But the speed is higher, and the range is much greater: 3000 versus 845 km.

                    And how did the range drop from 1200 to 850 ??? Head-on under 50 km / h is taken into account or spare in 500 km ?! laughing

                    Especially for you:
                    Cruising speed: 190 km / h
                    Maximum speed: 258 km / h
                    Weight: 3 300 kg
                    Range: 845 km
                    Length: 12 m
                    Engine type: ASh-62
                    1. Babay Atasovich
                      Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 18: 56
                      +1
                      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                      Quote: Babay Atasovich
                      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                      But the speed is higher, and the range is much greater: 3000 versus 845 km.

                      And how did the range drop from 1200 to 850 ??? Head-on under 50 km / h is taken into account or spare in 500 km ?! laughing

                      Especially for you:
                      Cruising speed: 190 km / h
                      Maximum speed: 258 km / h
                      Weight: 3 300 kg
                      Range: 845 km
                      Length: 12 m
                      Engine type: ASh-62

                      laughing laughing laughing In what wikipedia did you find this shnyaga ???! Kreiserskaya 180 km / h even in the first flight manuals are written. Empty An-2 5250 when calculating the alignment. The range is 1 liter / 1m in practice, and according to the standards 2 / 1km. Combustible 1200. Count on a calculator? laughing and the 9-cylinder engine is radially in a row called ASHA-62IR! wink
                    2. bistrov.
                      bistrov. 22 July 2021 06: 46
                      +3
                      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                      Engine type: ASh-62

                      M-62, created on the basis of the M-25, they were installed on the I-15, I-16, created on the basis of the American Wright Cyclone 1820, back in 1933. M-62 (ASh-62) was also installed on Douglas DS-3 and LI-2, which went through the whole Second World War as transport aircraft. Anachronism that will soon be 100 years old! Powered by B-70 aviation gasoline.
                      1. Babay Atasovich
                        Babay Atasovich 22 July 2021 13: 07
                        +1
                        Quote: bistrov.
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        Engine type: ASh-62

                        M-62, created on the basis of the M-25, they were installed on the I-15, I-16, created on the basis of the American Wright Cyclone 1820, back in 1933. M-62 (ASh-62) was also installed on Douglas DS-3 and LI-2, which went through the whole Second World War as transport aircraft. Anachronism that will soon be 100 years old! Powered by B-70 aviation gasoline.

                        A ASh-62 IR on B91 / 115
                      2. ua3igz
                        ua3igz 22 July 2021 14: 34
                        +1
                        "... ASh-62 IR on B91 / 115 ..."
                        Such a green one. And the B-70 oil filter was washed. This is technical gasoline. The store sells lighters for refueling.
          2. Nazar
            Nazar 22 July 2021 05: 52
            +3
            Vladimir Mashkov - The second impression of NOT a specialist - how will he take off (land) with such "sandals" on wheels from unprepared sites? And yet - the nose is lifted up so much that because of the engine the runway is not visible to the pilot at all, okay on comfortable airfields with "parquet" runways, but how to take off from the ground with such a view?
            1. Victorio
              Victorio 22 July 2021 12: 06
              +2
              Quote: Nazar
              Vladimir Mashkov - The second impression of NOT a specialist - how will he take off (land) with such "sandals" on wheels from unprepared sites? And yet - the nose is lifted up so much that because of the engine the runway is not visible to the pilot at all, okay on comfortable airfields with "parquet" runways, but how to take off from the ground with such a view?

              ===
              yes, the fairings on the chassis are somehow too big, they can and will be removed depending on the strip
            2. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 22 July 2021 12: 18
              +2
              Quote: Nazar
              Vladimir Mashkov - The second impression of NOT a specialist - how will he take off (land) with such "sandals" on wheels from unprepared sites? And yet - the nose is lifted up so much that because of the engine the runway is not visible to the pilot at all, okay on comfortable airfields with "parquet" runways, but how to take off from the ground with such a view?

              You reason ridiculously. Although it is understandable, not a specialist.

              Confused by "bast shoes"? "Bast shoes" (wheel fairings) on production cars will not, I suppose. And absolutely WITHOUT wheels, planes, excuse me, it does NOT happen. Perhaps on skis or an air cushion ... smile

              Confused by the tailwheel scheme? Yes, the scheme with a nose wheel is more convenient during takeoff, but it is not always acceptable and guarantees against nosing (the recent "happy" landing of the An-28 with nasal wheel seen, probably). I believe that in this case it is the tailwheel scheme that is quite justified for this airplane in many conditions. I propose to think about which ones. As for her, then - there was a time - all the planes were of just such a scheme. And nothing, they were normally operated and flew. smile

              You talk funny about the poor visibility of the pilots. The pilots have good visibility, and after detaching the tail wheel - excellent.

              About comfortable airfields and "parquet conditions". LMS-901 is designed to work with soil airfields.

              Do not be lazy, look for materials on the LMS in Runet, read. All questions will disappear.

              All the best and successful reading to you! smile
  3. Babay Atasovich
    Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 13: 26
    +18
    Quote: SERGE ANT
    to replace the "Corn" An-2
    Is AN-2 leaving? Legend! Reliable and trouble-free hard worker. Seemingly the time has come ..

    74 years old legend, the last 30 years they want to "move" !!! The hotelier did not grow .... I remember in the 90s the An-3 with a turboprop was advertised. My bottom is covered with standard spreads for 3000 hours of chemistry. An-3 with its injectivity at 9 !!!! seconds next to not stands with 3mya at the "voracious" ASHA-62IR. All Annushka needs is a good engine! Not yet! 500 types of work only on PANKh (assistance to aviation for the national economy), 1,5 tons of the declared payload (in the 90s we took 2,5 gasoline on board in barrels - it was hard, but stomped). Bertram, French stuntman and pilot, having seen 12 places, takeoff and run - just fell in love!
  4. GREG68
    GREG68 21 July 2021 14: 04
    +11
    Honestly, I doubt it ... Considering how many and how new civilian aircraft models are currently being produced in Russia, the AN-2 will still fly for a long time.
  • Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 21 July 2021 12: 45
    +11
    What is the cost of this aircraft? This aircraft should be created entirely on our developments and on our engines. Europe teaches us this through its sanctions.
    1. svp67
      svp67 21 July 2021 12: 57
      +5
      Quote: Alexander 3
      This plane should be created entirely on our developments and on our engines.

      For internal use, yes, but for export sales, you need to have a choice ...
      1. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 21 July 2021 13: 01
        +3
        Let them buy with our software and engines, because they buy our weapons.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 21 July 2021 13: 19
        +15
        Quote: svp67
        For internal use, yes, but for export sales, you need to have a choice ...

        What kind of export is there, you need thousands of cars to provide your market. And this is even with serial production - years.
        1. svp67
          svp67 21 July 2021 13: 31
          +1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          And this is even with serial production - years.

          With the current organization of production, nothing prevents a customer from launching such a simple aircraft in the country ...
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          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 21 July 2021 16: 10
            +4
            Quote: svp67
            nothing prevents a customer from launching such a simple plane in the country ...

            It hinders, I only mentioned the country where these cars were produced, then even the comment was deleted.
        2. alexmach
          alexmach 21 July 2021 16: 00
          +1
          What kind of export is there, you need thousands of cars to provide your market. And this is even with serial production - years.

          Is he really there? Is this its market then? Yes, for thousands of cars.
          1. faiver
            faiver 21 July 2021 17: 11
            +1
            I don't know about thousands, but for example, for Yakutia, fifty planes are needed
            1. goerqi
              goerqi 22 July 2021 09: 41
              +1
              Yakutia was planning a contract for 200 TVS-2DTS ...
              1. faiver
                faiver 22 July 2021 13: 21
                +2
                interesting, and pilots for 200 planes where were going to take? bully
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 23 July 2021 12: 10
            +1
            Quote: alexmach
            Is he really there? Is this its market then? Yes, for thousands of cars.

            There is a market, but no money.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 23 July 2021 13: 30
              +1
              There is a market, but no money.

              Does it happen? :).
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 23 July 2021 13: 41
                0
                Quote: alexmach
                Does it happen?

                I wonder where is the money and for what?
                1. alexmach
                  alexmach 23 July 2021 13: 44
                  +1
                  Well, it's banal in large cities there is money for airports and for maintaining some kind of aviation connectivity.
                  1. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 23 July 2021 13: 48
                    -1
                    Quote: alexmach
                    Well, it's banal in large cities there is money for airports and for maintaining some kind of aviation connectivity.

                    There will be in the cities, but at least there will not be any for agricultural aviation, and under the USSR there were two "Khimdym" detachments in each region.
                    1. alexmach
                      alexmach 23 July 2021 13: 53
                      0
                      There will be in the cities, but at least for agricultural aviation there will not be

                      Well, this means that there is no market for this "chemical smoke". Someone has already brought in the comments to articles about the AN-2 that in our time in agriculture it is more rational to use smaller planes.

                      And about cities - also a question. How much will a flight with regional aviation cost and will there be sufficient demand for it? How many lines in the country will there be demand for regular flights? Now, to be honest, I doubt that thousands of aircraft will be needed to meet such a demand, as you wrote above. In my opinion, more likely hundreds will be enough ..
                      1. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 23 July 2021 15: 01
                        0
                        Quote: alexmach
                        Now, to be honest, I doubt that thousands of aircraft will be needed to meet such a demand, as you wrote above. In my opinion, more likely hundreds will be enough ..

                        Perhaps so, the time is not right. I proceeded from about 20 cars produced during the Soviet era. But at that time they went to state needs, all payments from the budget, and now everything is in private hands. And if the state does not need it, then the cart will remain in the same place. The era of small aircraft is gone.
                      2. alexmach
                        alexmach 23 July 2021 15: 07
                        +1
                        I proceeded from about 20 cars produced during the Soviet era.

                        Yes, but this is not instantaneous, but for all the years of release, besides, as you yourself write, it was also used as an agricultural one, which will not be now, and where helicopters are now used, well, of course, the number of domestic flights in Soviet times was bigger and wider network.
      3. Smirnov Sergey
        Smirnov Sergey 21 July 2021 16: 59
        0
        Until you deploy the mass production of domestic avionics on the domestic element base, prototypes will already rot in hangars.
      4. gurzuf
        gurzuf 23 July 2021 11: 46
        +1
        We need Soviet power, and then not only planes will be our own.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 21 July 2021 13: 51
    +1
    Here the option is either to fly and wait for our theater of operations ... or not to patch up and wait for our theater of operations. This is not a fighter and there is no need to wait for sanctions here.
    1. DenZ
      DenZ 21 July 2021 20: 19
      +3
      Come on, let's remember the Sukhoi Superjet at least. Or a black wing for the MC-21.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 22 July 2021 16: 22
        0
        Remember ...... turbojet engine and avionics are delivered there and there .... so far. And these TVDs with a propeller are # 1 in the world in their class in terms of mass production.
        1. Cat Kuzya
          Cat Kuzya 23 July 2021 08: 28
          0
          The Chinese rivet and sell the modernized An-2 in thousands. And here it turns out to be "outdated", they blinded something incomprehensible on the imported engine. I doubt that there is anything "Russian" in it at all, at least initially it was assembled from imported components, even the body was made of imported composites. I wonder what has changed in this regard?
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 23 July 2021 08: 38
            +2
            This is not the starting point. The population in the places of use became impoverished, the collective farms collapsed (also clients of An2) The regional transportation market is being formed only now. Now SSZh-100 began to fly to the review of Moscow ... ... the replacement of An24 and L-410 did not start flying. If in the segment of SSZh and A320 and An24, part of the profit of airports is the lease of retail space, then in the segment of airports with L410 and An2 this is not the case, and there is no solvent mass population in those places. Hence, simple economic schemes do not work. It is necessary to create from scratch both the economy and the planes and the solvent population.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 21 July 2021 12: 49
    +16
    The LMS-2 aircraft designed to replace the Kukuruznik An-901 was shown at the MAKS-2021 air show
    We've been sitting for a long time, looking for a long time, but things are still there ...
    1. knn54
      knn54 21 July 2021 13: 12
      +15
      -Eugene: We've been sitting for a long time, we've been looking, but things are still there ...
      -An-3T;
      -Grach T-101.
      -Viscount
      -TVS-2MS
      We'll see.
      Only the plane with 12 ... 16 seats is still missing. It seems that even on paper.
      1. svp67
        svp67 21 July 2021 13: 34
        +6
        Quote: knn54
        Only the plane with 12 ... 16 seats is still missing. It seems that even on paper.
        Why, there are 15-seater L-410
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 21 July 2021 13: 52
          +4
          There is exactly the same problem - there is no Russian theater of operations.
          1. svp67
            svp67 21 July 2021 13: 53
            +1
            Quote: Zaurbek
            There is exactly the same problem - there is no Russian theater of operations.

            Not yet, although the layout of the VK-800 has already been tried on
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 21 July 2021 14: 06
              +1
              We wait...............
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 21 July 2021 13: 39
        +9
        Quote: knn54
        It looks like even on paper.

        Why do we need even the most responsible and responsible people on paper or in words?
        So tired of listening, reading, watching, you want something to buzz over your heads, work, people are delivered to their destinations!
        Here is the An-2 maize, chirping overhead every day, count it, taking paratroopers for a "walk" ... the former airfield of the Kachin school \ DOSAF is nearby.
        When it buzzes, and does not chirp, then it will become clear that the matter has gone, flew.
      3. Smirnov Sergey
        Smirnov Sergey 21 July 2021 17: 03
        +2
        to take 12..16 people it must have 2 engines. and the second engine almost doubles the cost of the aircraft? Why invent an "intermediate version" if it is easier to use the L-2 with 410 seats?
  • AAC
    AAC 21 July 2021 12: 51
    +4
    And it should not cost horse money. And then we have some industries right on the rise went.
    1. Disant
      Disant 21 July 2021 16: 55
      +2
      but fuel costs horse money.
      and 9 pass instead of 12 is oh.
      and where 12 - there fit 20 - checked (comment below)
      .
      even if we compare flying clubs-jumps - to make 36 jumps, you need 4 and 3 passes, respectively, and this is money
      1. your1970
        your1970 21 July 2021 21: 44
        +1
        Quote: Disant
        and where 12 - there 20 fit -
        -and then - oh crashed ... and then the court in the ECHR - "we were not paid extra for the funeral! We owe"
  • ccsr
    ccsr 21 July 2021 12: 59
    +6
    There will be no price for it with our engine - we have long been waiting for this aircraft for our regions. For our country, the mass production of just such an aircraft is more important than even a new single-engine fighter that was presented at Max.
    But doubts gnaw at me - who will undertake the mass production, because this company does not have, as I understand it, large production capacities.
    1. Babay Atasovich
      Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 13: 41
      +4
      And where to get the flyers ???! There were two schools on the An-2 - Sasovskoye and Krasnokutskoye, in Sasovo they completely closed the direction, and Krasnokutskoye - from 1,5 thousand graduates there were 300 cadets in general !!! ....pancake.
      1. ccsr
        ccsr 21 July 2021 17: 43
        +1
        Quote: Babay Atasovich
        And where to get the flyers ???!

        A state program for the development of regional aviation should be launched as the basis for the transport development of our distant regions. Naturally, already now it will be necessary to start training pilots of small aircraft, as it was in the USSR, and for this to revive GA flight schools. Given the fact that air and sea transportation will develop throughout the 21st century, any investment in aviation, including pilot training, will pay off handsomely.
        1. Babay Atasovich
          Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 18: 19
          +2
          Your words yes to Putin's ears ... Now all sorts of young and advanced "managers" are divorced ... Old people are told that they do not understand the realities and they have nothing to pay SUCH money for, but young people have no experience and pay you the same not for what! China rowing our flyers in droves - it pays many times more ...
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 21 July 2021 18: 54
            +6
            Quote: Babay Atasovich
            Old people are told that they do not understand the realities and they should be paid

            Old people, like me, for example, just understand that we cannot assemble a country without small aircraft. And a large number of small aircraft will create a completely different culture among our youth, and this was well understood in the USSR, when even 200 km there were regular flights on the An-2. Then there was a great need for pilots and technicians, and not for manufacturers of various consumer goods.
            Quote: Babay Atasovich
            China rowing our flyers in droves - it pays many times more ...

            So we have to pay so much so that they do not look to the left. As I have already said, a state program is needed, and there is no need to spare money for this.
            1. Babay Atasovich
              Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 19: 00
              0
              Hope dies last ...
            2. Babay Atasovich
              Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 19: 48
              0
              You see, this problem is not only in aviation, this problem is everywhere now! Do your grandchildren watch "heroes"? Here the man got the golden eagle for them, and the general got the "yelsenyat" with the formation of MANAGER and the same shnyaga - left the "Mill" and works in a new studio. An old friend of mine with a technical school education of a seserovsky plumber in the VILLAGE of the Volgograd region OFFICIALLY earns under a hundred, plus shabashki - twice as much! And then what to discuss about the flyers? ...
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 22 July 2021 12: 46
                0
                Quote: Babay Atasovich
                You see, this problem is not only in aviation, this problem is everywhere now!

                Understand correctly that we now have several promising highly intelligent industries and aircraft construction is one of them, along with space, nuclear power, shipping and the defense industry. That is why government support is needed for the aviation industry, and in all areas, from pilot training to the construction of new airfields. In the thirties of the twentieth century, in general, they started from scratch, which means that everything can be restored.
                Quote: Babay Atasovich
                Your words have reached their destination!

                Since I think, the overwhelming majority of literate people of the Soviet leaven think - we have seen all this and know how it should be. It will be good if the current leadership understands what we have known for a long time.


                Quote: your1970
                -prepared - but there is no plane ...... Then what?

                Well, such programs are not done in one year, tk. and it takes years to train new pilots, and building new aircraft in one five-year plan will not work either. But this is not a reason to give up, even if one of the new pilots escapes abroad - we will have a decent salary, they will all return, but with flying experience. So I don't see a big problem. Judging by the way a former military pilot recently rescued people from engine failure by landing a plane, his military training was not in vain for the country, although the costs of military pilots are much higher.
            3. Babay Atasovich
              Babay Atasovich 22 July 2021 04: 57
              +2
              If you believe this article https://m-old.tsargrad.tv/articles/kubyshku-siluanova-raspechatajut-dengi-fnb-pojdut-na-samolety_386247 then your words have reached their destination! good drinks for aviation!
        2. your1970
          your1970 21 July 2021 21: 47
          +2
          Quote: ccsr
          ... Naturally, now it will be necessary to start training pilots of small aircraft,
          -prepared - but there is no plane ...... Then what? And where will they go? right-to China ....
          There will be a plane at least at the level of a series of 50-100 aircraft - then you can train flyers.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 21 July 2021 13: 03
    0
    And why the first Baikal did not please, the 4 range seemed to be, the most important thing is to fly fishing.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 July 2021 13: 20
      +2
      Quote: tralflot1832
      And why the first Baikal did not please, the 4 range seemed to be, the most important thing is to fly fishing.

      Probably the big uncles didn’t like it, or someone from above "closed the breather".
    2. Soldatov V.
      Soldatov V. 21 July 2021 13: 44
      +5
      We need both aircraft and TVS and LMS. Make each 20-30 and try it out. The planes are, in principle, regional. I personally lean towards TVS. He flew the AN-2 as a passenger. I took up to twenty passengers. Simple as a cart. Before going into big aviation, young pilots gained flight experience on it, experience of flying in different conditions. What is good about the TVS is the official passenger capacity of 12 people, the speed of 330, the range of 4500, the carrying capacity of 3500 kg, a short take-off and landing strip, emergency planning, the possibility of using it at water aerodromes with floats. If we make retractable landing gear and add 200-300 horses, the speed will be up to 400 km. Northern and Far Eastern regions need to think about fuel assemblies. The main thing is that effective managers do not drive the price skyward. soldier
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 21 July 2021 13: 51
        0
        There the price of the plane should be no more, you have to look.
      2. Babay Atasovich
        Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 14: 04
        +5
        Quote: V.
        We need both aircraft and TVS and LMS. Make each 20-30 and try it out. The planes are, in principle, regional. I personally lean towards TVS. He flew the AN-2 as a passenger. I took up to twenty passengers. Simple as a cart. Before going into big aviation, young pilots gained flight experience on it, experience of flying in different conditions. What is good about the TVS is the official passenger capacity of 12 people, the speed of 330, the range of 4500, the carrying capacity of 3500 kg, a short take-off and landing strip, emergency planning, the possibility of using it at water aerodromes with floats. If we make retractable landing gear and add 200-300 horses, the speed will be up to 400 km. Northern and Far Eastern regions need to think about fuel assemblies. The main thing is that effective managers do not drive the price skyward. soldier

        .... Annushka's first business is to help the national economy! Delivery of goods and medical assistance is secondary. Just imagine: speed 160, keep the chassis above the crop 2 meters and the agronomist will do everything for the crew to keep these couple of meters to the end of the field (higher chemistry will not spray and the locusts will devour the crop, lower chemistry will burn it), and the fields will only movies are even and in addition, at the end of the field, either power lines, or Stalin's landings ... Your turboprop has a throttle response, from minimum to maximum speed of 9 seconds! An old, of course gluttonous, 9-cylinder ASHA-62IR has 3 !!! Seconds. And this is like the braking distance of a car - how long it takes for the engine to reach its maximum and give a chance to jump over an obstacle.
      3. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 21 July 2021 14: 43
        0
        The first project Baikal was ruined by imported composite materials, an engine and a propeller. The price for 1 piece is not more than 120 million rubles, the price of flight chas is not more than 40 rubles. There are already 000 pieces of preliminary orders. The second Baikal will be built in Ulan Ude.
      4. Smirnov Sergey
        Smirnov Sergey 21 July 2021 17: 11
        0
        According to international flight standards, do not certify an aircraft with one engine and a capacity of 20 people. That's all. There is an L-20 for 410 people, there were versions of the "Rysachok" with two engines and, accordingly, the options with a smaller capacity are LMS, Gzhel with one engine. it will turn out to be certified. It is possible, of course, for this "to develop separate flight standards", but a) their development will also cost money and should be included in the cost of developing the aircraft b) put an end to the possibility of exporting these aircraft.
        1. Soldatov V.
          Soldatov V. 21 July 2021 18: 27
          +5
          Excuse me, but I don't give a damn about international flight standards and the ability to export abroad, like most of the inhabitants of Siberia and the Far East. We need air transport to travel through our endless expanses, where there are no normal roads, for reasonable ticket prices. For 60 years, the AN-2 has been flying on one engine and there is nothing, and it flies according to the current state flight standards. LMS, when compared with vehicles, is a taxi, TVS is a Gazelle or a PAZik. How much luggage will fit in the LMC? And in fuel assemblies, 100-150 kg for each passenger, and there is where to put it or dump it. The price of the L-410 and fuel assemblies, I think, is not commensurate; in terms of technology and maintenance, the L-410 is close to that of large aviation. (in general, you need to give it up like Czech beer)
          1. Maxim G
            Maxim G 23 July 2021 11: 42
            0
            Nothing prevents the construction of an elongated version (Like the American Caravan (basic 9 passengers, elongated 13), equip with under-fuselage containers for cargo.

            But the fact that the landing gear has a tail wheel, in principle, says a lot (Baikal's analogues - Caravan and Kodiak have a landing gear with a nose strut, such a scheme is heavier, but safer and easier to fly), it seems that the designers did not fit into the weight of the aircraft ... and made such a chassis.
    3. PN
      PN 21 July 2021 18: 33
      +2
      The cost of the flight. For the first, it was planned to be 60 thousand rubles / hour, and for this one, 40 thousand rubles / hour.
  • CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 21 July 2021 13: 03
    +6
    Some kind of undercover struggle is taking place in the niche of civil aviation aircraft, it may be time to think about re-creating the Ministry of Civil Aviation, as it was during the USSR, now the interests of civil aviation are represented by the Federal Air Transport Agency, the Ministry of Transport, Rostransnadzor, all a little bit, hence the confusion and vacillation
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 21 July 2021 13: 15
      -5
      Quote: CommanderDIVA
      it's time to think about re-establishing the Ministry of Civil Aviation

      And Chubais was a minister there.
      1. CommanderDIVA
        CommanderDIVA 21 July 2021 13: 19
        +2
        What does the redhead have to do with it? What thought they wanted to convey
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 21 July 2021 13: 25
          -2
          Quote: CommanderDIVA
          What does the redhead have to do with it? What thought they wanted to convey

          Such that you need to appoint a business person, and not a godfather-matchmaker-brother-sycophant, as we often do. The same Chubais was not appointed anywhere.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 21 July 2021 13: 21
        +5
        Quote: Piramidon
        And Chubais was a minister there.

        Where is Chubais, there is Sahara!
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 21 July 2021 15: 48
          +1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Piramidon
          And Chubais was a minister there.

          Where is Chubais, there is Sahara!

          Better vice versa laughing
      3. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 21 July 2021 14: 33
        +1
        I would not entrust the chicken coop to Chubais's mother-in-law.
    2. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 21 July 2021 20: 46
      0
      maybe it's time to think about recreating the Ministry of Civil Aviation, as it was under the USSR

      One can think of it, but in the USSR there was also a Ministry of the Aviation Industry, which has long been gone.
      1. ccsr
        ccsr 22 July 2021 12: 55
        +1
        Quote: Aviator_
        One can think of it, but in the USSR there was also a Ministry of the Aviation Industry, which has long been gone.

        Of course, two ministries should not be revived, but one thing in common with at least two central administrations and several directorates or committees is quite possible to afford, since we have begun to revive aviation in this way. We will not fail in this in any case, even in the preparation of new managers who will be selected in production and will have work experience. Naturally, the state's share in any aircraft corporation must exceed 50% - and no less.
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 22 July 2021 19: 26
          0
          Naturally, the state's share in any aircraft corporation must exceed 50% - and no less.

          The fact is that now everything is done for profit. And small aircraft does not give it. That is why, for more than 30 years, everyone will not find a replacement for the An-2. And 50% of the shares (a controlling stake) seems to be not bad, since Sberbank and VTB also have a controlling stake in the state, and for some reason they do not work in Crimea.
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 22 July 2021 19: 34
            0
            Quote: Aviator_
            The fact is that now everything is done for profit. And small aircraft does not give it.

            I agree with this, but the prospect of producing at least a thousand aircraft will significantly reduce the cost of one copy - it means that we will at least partially cover the costs due to the number and possibly potential buyers from abroad.
            Quote: Aviator_
            ... That is why, for more than 30 years, everyone will not find a replacement for the An-2.

            After the collapse of the nineties, it is surprising that they were not allowed under the knife at all, judging by how many GA airfields were closed.
            Quote: Aviator_
            And 50% of the shares (a controlling stake) seems to be not bad, since Sberbank and VTB also have a controlling stake in the state, and for some reason they do not work in Crimea.

            This is not an example, because we must focus primarily on the domestic market and not on the foreign one. Banks conduct international operations, and things are a little more complicated there.
            In general, I see no reason not to revive the public sector in aviation, and in all areas, from the construction of production facilities to the construction of new airfields, perhaps even like the field of German times of the Second World War.
            1. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 22 July 2021 19: 37
              0
              In general, I see no reason not to revive the public sector in aviation, and in all areas, from the construction of production facilities to the construction of new airfields, perhaps even like the field of German times of the Second World War.

              I am also for the restoration of small aircraft, but without state subsidies this is impossible, and the state does not intend to do this.
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 22 July 2021 19: 55
                0
                Quote: Aviator_
                I am also for the restoration of small aircraft, but without state subsidies this is impossible, and the state does not intend to do this.

                Something is changing for the better, and the current Max is an example of this, judging by the new products - apparently it dawned on Putin that this sector of the economy requires injections.
                Quote: Aviator_
                With what hangover in these banks in general foreign capital was registered?

                So, to increase capital, all banks in the world attract borrowed funds and issue shares, which means that our banks enjoy prestige in the world. By the way, our Sberbank had daughters in Ukraine and in other countries - this is also in the order of things.
                Quote: Aviator_
                Is it really impossible to have at least one bank without foreign capital?

                There is one - Bank Rossiya, but it is under sanctions.
                1. Aviator_
                  Aviator_ 22 July 2021 21: 20
                  0
                  Sberbank had daughters in Ukraine

                  It was until 2014. VTB also had it at the same time, but a friend of mine tried to withdraw money there on his Russian card (also until 2014) and was unpleasantly struck by a decent commission.
            2. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 22 July 2021 19: 40
              0
              This is not an example, because we must focus primarily on the domestic market and not on the foreign one. Banks conduct international operations, and things are a little more complicated there.

              The example is quite the same. With what hangover in these banks in general foreign capital was registered? Is it really impossible to have at least one bank without foreign capital? Is the Central Bank unprofitable?
  • avia12005
    avia12005 21 July 2021 13: 05
    +3
    I remember that the initial project included a parachute for collective rescue. I wonder if he is? Or fooled again?
    https://www.infpol.ru/210634-samolyet-baykal-osnastyat-parashyutnoy-sistemoy-spaseniya/ winked
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 21 July 2021 13: 10
      +4
      I remember that the initial project included a parachute for collective rescue. I wonder if he is? Or fooled again?
      With its load and weight !? Hmm., There must be a large dome or a multi-dome system with brakes, otherwise 9 passengers will very quickly become disabled, even before landing ... lol
  • Berg berg
    Berg berg 21 July 2021 13: 09
    +12
    It was necessary to disfigure the original TVS-2DTS "Baikal", the project to cut it off and make it, as it were, cheaper. They made a freak out of this handsome man!
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 21 July 2021 13: 25
      +6
      Quote: Berg Berg
      It was necessary to disfigure the original TVS-2DTS "Baikal", the project to cut it off and make it, as it were, cheaper. They made a freak out of this handsome man!

      Here is the final version, with new glazing and chassis.
    2. ALEX_SHTURMAN
      ALEX_SHTURMAN 21 July 2021 13: 27
      +4
      I agree with you TVS-2DTS "Baikal is much more similar to AN-2 here and a double wing with the best flight performance characteristics and open landing gear for unprepared runways. And better performance in terms of range and carrying capacity .. The cruising speed of the car is up to 330 km / h, ferry range - up to 4,5 thousand km, carrying capacity - up to 3,5 tons against LMS-901 Maximum takeoff weight - 4,8 tons, speed - up to 300 km / h Maximum flight range - 3 thousand km. Accommodates 9 passengers and can carry up to 2 tons of payload.
  • Silinvv
    Silinvv 21 July 2021 13: 10
    +4
    I alone wonder, but will it be very convenient for passengers to enter and exit the cabin with such an inclination of the hull? In winter, boots in the snow on the rubber floor, which will also freeze overnight. And the evacuation up ...
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 21 July 2021 13: 20
      +10
      A flat floor has long been the norm in this segment. But then they decided to save on matches and chose a tailwheel scheme. Very controversial, or rather the most controversial decision in the project. For this draws on fundamental features, from a high chance of nosing to inconvenience on every flight. In addition, the scheme eliminates the ability to fasten the trunk or makes it half in volume.



    2. mark1
      mark1 23 July 2021 07: 01
      0
      Quote: Silinvv
      will it be very convenient for passengers to enter and exit the cabin with such a tilt?

      There is one more trouble - the reduced height of the cabin (160cm versus 180cm) - they will enter / exit not only on an inclined floor, but also bent at the waist or on bent ones.
      1. Cat Kuzya
        Cat Kuzya 23 July 2021 08: 36
        0
        I had to be in Brazil. There, in each city at the airfields, there are dozens of light-engine aircraft in different versions (many in cargo ones) and land and take off continuously. And in our country, apart from small business jets, nothing is visible at the airfields, from the word "in general" and this is given the size of the country.
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 23 July 2021 10: 40
          0
          For some reason, small aircraft in Brazil is profitable, but in our country it is not profitable. Nobody cares why? It seems to me that the reason is not only "profitability", but also in bureaucratic-permissive-prohibitive legislative restrictions and "fences".
  • xomaNN
    xomaNN 21 July 2021 13: 11
    +2
    About 20 years ago it’s time to change the AN-2 veteran. An excellent simple airplane. But from the 40s. Confuses only - What are the engineering and production facilities in the little-known office "Baikal"?
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 21 July 2021 13: 21
      +2
      Quote: xomaNN
      What are the engineering and manufacturing facilities in the little-known office "Baikal"?

      Most likely, they will be released at the UZGA. Currently, UZGA JSC produces three types of light aircraft
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 July 2021 13: 32
      +4
      Quote: xomaNN
      About 20 years ago it’s time to change the AN-2 veteran. An excellent simple airplane. But from the 40s.

      This "small but remote" aircraft An-2, the first flight of which took place on August 31, 1947, was created in Novosibirsk by the Oleg Antonov Design Bureau, from which the Soviet aircraft industry of a huge series, ending with "Mriya", went. He is the founder of the Academy of Sciences, he needs to put up a gold monument. It is a pity that the design bureau and the plant were built in the wrong place.
    3. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 21 July 2021 13: 35
      +2
      Quote: xomaNN
      Confuses only - What are the engineering and production facilities in the little-known office "Baikal"?

      So it's not just "Baikal" there, but "Baikal-engineering" And "engineering", forgive me the Russian language, it's such a force ...
  • Pico
    Pico 21 July 2021 13: 15
    -2
    And what is the American engine?
    In the future, there will be VK-800S, when will this further
    Apparently the sanctions teach nothing
  • tarakan
    tarakan 21 July 2021 13: 23
    +4
    I'm not an aviator, but how can I land on the ground with such a clearance on my ass and how with the pilot's view when taxiing?
    1. Babay Atasovich
      Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 14: 09
      +5
      I am a pilot - normally with a dutik (tail wheel) and steer and taxi and take off.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 21 July 2021 13: 30
    +5
    I still don’t understand these dances around replacing the An-2. 30 years of treading in one place, almost a dozen projects, but the questions remain the same: Where is the Russian engine? What is the takeoff / landing speed and distance? Why is there still a tailwheel? How much will this device cost?
    The impression is that they are trying to hang EVERYTHING on the plane, which is simple in design and purpose! Everything that pops into my head, without thinking whether it is needed there. Has the "glass cabin" already been cut down there? Maybe it's time to supply the RLSBO and rockets suspension units?
    This is a sarcastic comment. It's just sad to look at all this.
    1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
      Sergey Aleksandrovich 21 July 2021 13: 51
      0
      There is no engine of its own. In the same project, they want to adapt the turbine, which will not make the plane cheap. They promised to make an aviation version of the engine from the Aurus car, then it will be possible to recall the Rysachok project on two engines.
  • viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 21 July 2021 13: 34
    +3
    It just turned out to be good at the exit wassat
  • Kaw
    Kaw 21 July 2021 14: 01
    +1
    The hood is too long, it does not seem that the pilot will not see anything because of it. And I wonder if a domestic engine was found for it or not?
  • senima56
    senima56 21 July 2021 14: 10
    +4
    There were already "Gzhel", "Rysachok", and flying! Then, "the Ministry of Industry and Trade abandoned the TVS-2021DTS Baikal single-engine aircraft, which was planned for serial production from 2." fool
    Something tells me that "AN-2 -FOREVER!" negative
  • zenion
    zenion 21 July 2021 14: 11
    +1
    Something very similar to the German Lapotnik attack aircraft. Will he have a siren when he drops various fertilizers?
    1. Evil troll
      Evil troll 21 July 2021 20: 07
      +2
      If there is a siren, fertilizers will begin to dump the surrounding ...
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 July 2021 14: 13
    +1
    9 seats there because this is a limitation for single-engine vehicles. Higher speed, decent range. And he's NEW.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 21 July 2021 16: 03
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      9 seats there because this is a limitation for single-engine vehicles. Higher speed, decent range. And he's NEW.

      Well, An-2, it seems, is also single-engine, but there are more seats, however. Higher speed is good, but it means that the minimum evolutionary speed is also higher - but how to carry out chemical work? Well, what's new ... Comrade bought a new Toita for six months. And either THAT, or something, he asked to be thrown into the city. While driving, I spat all the way - grit, your Opel is almost 10 years old, and in the cabin there is no cricket, not a rustle, but I have it here and there! I'm surprised - you have a NEW one! This, he says, and infuriates. laughing
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 21 July 2021 16: 35
        +2
        Quote: Doliva63
        Well, An-2, it seems, is also single-engine, and there are more seats, however

        In what years was it developed? Now a single-engine boat with more than 9 passengers WILL NOT PASS certification!
        1. Disant
          Disant 21 July 2021 17: 15
          -1
          he does not fly abroad. what are the difficulties?
          1. Babay Atasovich
            Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 17: 31
            +2
            Quote: Disant
            he does not fly abroad. what are the difficulties?

            An-2 flies in thousands of foreign countries, it is famous as an AK! yes
            1. Disant
              Disant 22 July 2021 07: 51
              0
              what foreign countries? what thousands?
              "For 2012, 2271 An-2 are in operation in the world; there are 1580 An-2 aircraft in Russia, of which 322 are serviceable."
              NII GA - the commercial fleet of An-2 aircraft in Russia in 2017 was 227 units.
              1. Babay Atasovich
                Babay Atasovich 22 July 2021 07: 53
                +2
                Quote: Disant
                what foreign countries? what thousands?
                "For 2012, 2271 An-2 are in operation in the world; there are 1580 An-2 aircraft in Russia, of which 322 are serviceable."
                NII GA - the commercial fleet of An-2 aircraft in Russia in 2017 was 227 units.

                A full copy of the An-2 made and Chin is not taken into account?
                1. Disant
                  Disant 22 July 2021 08: 07
                  0
                  and how does this have to do with certification for flights in other countries?
                  Or do you think a new advertised aircraft with such new features as minus three regular seats will conquer foreign markets (apparently overseas)?
                  if certification is desperately needed, then three seats are simply dismantled, and it is not announced that the new aircraft is going to replace the old one.
                  everything rests against economic feasibility
                  1. Babay Atasovich
                    Babay Atasovich 22 July 2021 08: 13
                    +2
                    The same sideways as another attempt to replace the An-2! It flies all over the globe, but this device is unlikely to be able to replace even at the regional level in agricultural work. yes
        2. Doliva63
          Doliva63 22 July 2021 16: 14
          0
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Quote: Doliva63
          Well, An-2, it seems, is also single-engine, and there are more seats, however

          In what years was it developed? Now a single-engine boat with more than 9 passengers WILL NOT PASS certification!

          Since then, when the An-2 was being developed, the average passenger gained weight, or what? laughing
          1. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 22 July 2021 16: 55
            0
            Quote: Doliva63
            Since then, when the An-2 was being developed, the average passenger gained weight, or what?

            It turns out that back in the 90s, our aviation leaders thoughtlessly signed restrictions on the number of passengers for single-engine aircraft, obediently repeating American requirements.
            You can google it. But they planted such a thorn in themselves!
            1. Doliva63
              Doliva63 22 July 2021 18: 17
              +1
              Quote: Mountain Shooter
              Quote: Doliva63
              Since then, when the An-2 was being developed, the average passenger gained weight, or what?

              It turns out that back in the 90s, our aviation leaders thoughtlessly signed restrictions on the number of passengers for single-engine aircraft, obediently repeating American requirements.
              You can google it. But they planted such a thorn in themselves!

              And, this is the first thing that came to my mind - foreign crap, stupidly copied by our fans of their currency and lifestyle. Thank you! drinks
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 21 July 2021 14: 29
    0
    And the Siberians began to develop it ...
  • Dikson
    Dikson 21 July 2021 16: 20
    0
    And why does he need such showy bast shoes on the chassis on unpaved strips? for speed and swiftness? or is it floats? And again with someone else's engine .. To then nod at the sanctions and move all the terms to the right, without answering for anything?
    1. faiver
      faiver 21 July 2021 17: 16
      +2
      And why does he need such showy bast shoes on the chassis on unpaved strips?
      - show-off, our everything ... hi
  • faiver
    faiver 21 July 2021 17: 18
    +1
    The series "It's time to change the An-2" continues, it is interesting to surpass Santa Barbara?
  • Babay Atasovich
    Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 17: 28
    0
    Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
    Quote: alexmach
    9 passengers versus 12 for An-2. As written in previous topics 9 in accordance with modern flight standards.

    It was somewhat surprising that 9 passengers versus 12, although the carrying capacity is 2000 versus 1600 kg. But the task was just for 9 passengers! Why? Do not quite understand. But the speed is higher, and the range is much greater: 3000 versus 845 km.

    At what point did the An-2's range fall from 1200 to 850? At taking into account that the frontal under 50 km / hour ???
  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 21 July 2021 17: 34
    +1
    that it seems to me this lapterer will not sit where an-2 will sit
    1. Babay Atasovich
      Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 18: 44
      +1
      Quote: Ryaruav
      that it seems to me this lapterer will not sit where an-2 will sit

      It will sit down, but then it will be able to take off ?! laughing
    2. Babay Atasovich
      Babay Atasovich 22 July 2021 05: 53
      +1
      My classmate "nahimichil" on a Zhiguli 6 ku, arrived, washed it as expected, decided to catch up and went to the cap. On the way, a ditch for the pipe breaks out, he PRESSES ON THE GAS AND PULLS THE STEERING WHEEL ON HIMSELF TO "BLAST" !!! A good Zhigulishka, but not An-2 ... a ditch was dug exactly to its size! laughing
  • Paschenko.vp
    Paschenko.vp 21 July 2021 21: 45
    0
    This plane was already tested almost 30 years ago under the name "Taiga".
  • John22
    John22 21 July 2021 22: 05
    0
    An-2 was a flying shed with remarkable wing mechanization. I drove everything. And where do you load 2 tons of cargo into the bang?
  • Zlyden.Zlo
    Zlyden.Zlo 21 July 2021 23: 36
    0
    Price ... reliability. Cost of operation ... my criteria could be wrong
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  • parusnik
    parusnik 22 July 2021 06: 39
    +1
    The presented prototype has a General Electric H80-200 engine, but in the future it will be replaced by the Russian VK-800S. LMS-901
    .Those. no prototype with a Russian engine? and import substitution is still in the future.
  • Sedoy
    Sedoy 22 July 2021 08: 59
    0
    not beautiful at all ...
    compared to the An-2, just a freak ...
  • Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 22 July 2021 11: 26
    0
    On AN-2 from Europe to America

    German businessman Michael Manuzakis prepared a Polish An-2 for sale and flew to the USA on it.
    I put a large fuel tank in the passenger compartment.

    Several programs from the "Steel Boys" cycle, Discovery Channel were devoted to this flight.


    The reaction to the "giant Russian biplane" An-2 at the American air show was interesting :)
  • ua3igz
    ua3igz 22 July 2021 14: 28
    0
    No one here is talking about the main problem of the An-2. 60-80% of unprepared passengers feel sick on it with terrible force, especially when it is bumpy, and 95% of girls are students. Sometimes there was not enough 3 liter package for the flight. This is not good in the 21st century)))
  • Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. 23 July 2021 13: 13
    0
    I decided to make one more comment. Each constituent entity, region, region has a ministry of transport. It would be nice for the ministers (especially of the Siberian and Far Eastern regions) to come together and choose what they need, for the price and performance characteristics. It’s like an initiative from below, it’s not bad for the deputies to join. Choose without any export problems and stupid international rules.