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Maria Zakharova commented on Poland's claims to Russia over the wreckage of Tu-154

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The official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, commented on the latest statements by Warsaw that Moscow "holds the wreckage" of the plane of the Polish president that crashed near Smolensk in 2010.


Recall that the disaster occurred at the time of the landing of the Tu-154 at the Smolensk Severny airfield. Then, due to bad weather conditions, the dispatchers recommended that the pilots of the Polish plane leave for an alternate airfield. However, under pressure from the Polish Air Force Commander-in-Chief who was in the cockpit at that time (as the examination showed, he was intoxicated), the pilots still began landing.

The wreckage of the Tu-154 is in Russia, and the Polish side believes that this is "disrespect for the norms of the civilized world." At the same time, the Russian side has repeatedly made it clear that it is ready to hand over the wreckage of the aircraft to Warsaw on the very first day, as soon as Warsaw itself puts an end to the protracted investigation. However, in Poland they are in no hurry to put an end to it. Accusatory speeches and conspiracy theories are constantly voiced, to the extent that the plane was mined in Russia during maintenance. This version is being promoted by the notorious Antoni Matserevich, the country's former defense minister, who is now one of the leaders of the ruling Law and Justice party in the country.

According to Maria Zakharova, commenting on another attack by the Polish Foreign Ministry against Russia, the Polish side itself is sending more and more new requests during the investigation. In this regard, there is a need for a virtually constant renewal of investigative actions already in Russia itself. Maria Zakharova noted that the finding of the wreckage of Polish aircraft No. 1 in the Russian Federation is not indefinite by definition, and in fact indicated that Warsaw will receive them immediately, when it itself completes an apparently drawn-out investigation. The whole problem for Poland itself is that this investigation has long turned, if not into a farce, then into an attempt to gain political points.

Maria Zakharova pointed out that the Polish side had been repeatedly informed about the procedure for returning material evidence, which includes the wreckage of the Tu-154 that crashed near Smolensk.

Official representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation:

The material evidence, as the Polish side knows very well, is transferred only after the completion of all investigative actions.

Maria Zakharova called the appeals to international law from Poland in such a situation strange and groundless.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 21 July 2021 06: 43
    +15
    Shaw?
    Again?
    Dug out stewardess Kachinsky?
    As soon as the Poles hand over the wreckage of the plane, all traces of all existing explosives will be found on all of them!
    And be sure to be generously soaked by the Newbie!
    For - Highileykli! Amen!
    1. Babay Atasovich
      Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 06: 50
      +9
      Quote: Victor_B
      Shaw?
      Again?
      Dug out stewardess Kachinsky?
      As soon as the Poles hand over the wreckage of the plane, all traces of all existing explosives will be found on all of them!
      And be sure to be generously soaked by the Newbie!
      For - Highileykli!

      With prints of Bashirov and Petrov, + their passports and paintings. fellow
      1. Seryoga64
        Seryoga64 21 July 2021 07: 14
        +3
        Quote: Babay Atasovich
        , + their passports and signatures

        And travel certificates
        1. Babay Atasovich
          Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 07: 25
          +5
          Quote: Seryoga64
          Quote: Babay Atasovich
          , + their passports and signatures

          And travel certificates

          Uh-huh, they will. They can also find a pioneer tie with a Komsomol member's badge in an earflap with a red star.
          1. Seryoga64
            Seryoga64 21 July 2021 07: 30
            0
            Quote: Babay Atasovich
            Uh-huh, they will become

            And if the birch had survived, they would have found a portrait of VVP on it
            1. Babay Atasovich
              Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 07: 36
              +4
              Quote: Seryoga64

              And if the birch had survived, they would have found a portrait of VVP on it

              No, on birch trees specialists are naglo-Saxons. The billionaire Birch came to them, and in the end, the peeled sticky turned out. And that at the root! wassat
              1. Seryoga64
                Seryoga64 21 July 2021 07: 38
                +2
                Quote: Babay Atasovich
                And that at the root!

                Gently so, with a towel laughing
                Yes, what is this bug on the branch. Minuses everyone and everything am
                1. Babay Atasovich
                  Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 07: 56
                  +3
                  Quote: Seryoga64
                  Minuses everyone and everything am

                  I have no temperature changes from this. request
                  1. Seryoga64
                    Seryoga64 21 July 2021 08: 01
                    +1
                    Quote: Babay Atasovich
                    I have no temperature changes from this.

                    On the one hand, I don't give a damn, but on the other hand, it pisses me off that people will stop talking, but settle scores.
                    1. Babay Atasovich
                      Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 08: 04
                      +2
                      Well, at least the scores are good, otherwise nowadays even the calculator is reduced in a smartphone with 4 cameras! laughing
                      1. Seryoga64
                        Seryoga64 21 July 2021 08: 06
                        -3
                        Quote: Babay Atasovich
                        and now even the calculator is combined in a smartphone with 4 cameras!

                        Not funny tongue
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                      3. Seryoga64
                        Seryoga64 21 July 2021 08: 11
                        -1
                        Quote: Babay Atasovich
                        I'm afraid to write

                        And ezhli in the Aesopian language? laughing
                      4. Babay Atasovich
                        Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 08: 14
                        -2
                        yes, even in Pashto
                      5. Seryoga64
                        Seryoga64 21 July 2021 08: 15
                        -2
                        Quote: Babay Atasovich
                        yes, even in Pashto

                        Well speak Pashto
                      6. Babay Atasovich
                        Babay Atasovich 21 July 2021 08: 18
                        0
                        So who will understand then?
                      7. Seryoga64
                        Seryoga64 21 July 2021 08: 20
                        -1
                        Well then, don't
    2. Finches
      Finches 21 July 2021 06: 55
      +10
      This tragedy was not needed from the word of Russia at all, but it was very useful to the ruling Polish elite, Kaczynski's brother, etc. Cynical Polish figures are doing and will continue to do their political gescheft on human bones! I would not be surprised if I found out that somewhere on the sidelines of the Polish government the phrase was heard more than once: "If the plane hadn't crashed near Smolensk itself, we really should have blown it up! "
      1. Seryoga64
        Seryoga64 21 July 2021 07: 16
        -2
        Quote: Finches
        "If the plane hadn't crashed near Smolensk itself, we really should have blown it up!"

        They need to put a monument to a birch tree
      2. Tatyana
        Tatyana 21 July 2021 13: 40
        +2
        The Russian Foreign Ministry responds correctly to the authorities of modern "Great" Nazi Poland. However, the leadership of the Russian Federation cannot stop at this and wait for the Polish Nazi elite in the ruling party of Kaczynski "Law and Justice", as they say, "by the sea of ​​weather."
        Russia needs to proactively act SYSTEMIC and expose not only these, but also other accusations and claims of Poland against Russia - with all objective consequences for both sides. Namely.

        1. It's time for Russia to finish cleanly "at the top" with a dense provocative BLUFF, made in "perestroika" on the initiative of Gorbachev by his anti-Soviet and Russophobic clique in the person of his American henchman A. Yakovlev, who diligently proved to the world community, that the Poles near Smolensk were allegedly shot not by the Germans, but quite the opposite - namely, allegedly by units of the NKVD.
        At the same time, Gorbachev and Co. nomenclature in the historical documents of the USSR "Katyn case" about the investigation of the burials of Polish officers near Smolensk, a PURPOSE TRAITING political FORIT was committed in favor of Goebbels' provocative version against the USSR - that is, the head of state Gorbachev committed a state CRIME against the USSR. With the cajolement of Washington by Yeltsin in the same direction.

        2. This is all the more appropriate and should be done now, since in March 2021 The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has already launched a new multimedia project called "Memory Stronger Than Granite" about MEMORIALS in honor of Soviet soldiers of the Second World War.
        And this project, in principle, logically fits also the question of creating the long-awaited MEMORIAL monument near Smolensk to the soldiers and officers of the spacecraft who died there, to which modern Poland is categorically opposed.

        So it is high time that the Katyn issue, manipulated by Poland, was taken up by the leadership of Russia ALL-round.

        Victor Ilyukhin The truth about Katyn! Feb 3 2014


        Yeltsin: "Lord, bless America"
    3. antivirus
      antivirus 21 July 2021 07: 08
      +3
      SEND THE FURU WITH IT TO THE BIRCH. The wreckage of the aircraft is a lot, the firewood is just right.
      1. alex neym_2
        alex neym_2 21 July 2021 07: 25
        +1
        [quote] [/ quote] ... and send the earth from the place of the fall - they will sift, maybe they will find something interesting ... if you poke around for a very long time, then they will find the mortal bones of Susanin ...
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    5. Terenin
      Terenin 21 July 2021 09: 39
      +4
      I can imagine what would have happened if they were given the wreckage.
      Inadequate Polish politicians cannot be given anything at all.
    6. Alien From
      Alien From 21 July 2021 11: 02
      +1
      They ate the whole bald patch ...))) but they go birch forest ...
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  3. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 21 July 2021 07: 02
    +3
    Why bother paying attention to these requests from Poland ??? Send the forest to the deep. language, that's all. Look how with the Japanese and Ukrainians about the Kuriles and the Crimea. There are conclusions of our bodies in the causes of the crash and EVERYTHING !!! And they wanted and hopes their problems.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 21 July 2021 07: 07
      +2
      Quote: Murmur 55
      There are conclusions of our bodies in the causes of the crash and EVERYTHING !!! And they wanted and hopes their problems.

      So that's who the Boeing judge is based on! From the Poles! Those will not calm down in any way, so will these. Give them the wreckage of the plane and the Poles will immediately find the traces of Buk's shot
      1. Murmur 55
        Murmur 55 21 July 2021 07: 13
        +3
        hi exactly so it will be, about Boeing, for 7 years, an owl has been pulled on the globe, and about Kachinsky's plane in general, Santa Barbara turned out.
        1. Pathos
          Pathos 21 July 2021 11: 02
          +1
          who is buried? chief of the traffic police because it is not a Christian dance song. Garbage yesterday, the chief of the tax office was buried, so they buried it three times for an encore laughing they haven't reached the third time yet laughing
      2. Seryoga64
        Seryoga64 21 July 2021 07: 18
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        and the Poles will immediately find the traces of Buk's shot

        They will discover a lot. Starting with "Novice" and ending with all existing explosives
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 21 July 2021 09: 34
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        So that's who the Boeing judge is based on!

        An example is taken, but the remains of Boeing are also not given to the country of the owner of the aircraft. And why should Russia give to the Poles.
      4. alch3mist
        alch3mist 22 July 2021 00: 09
        +1
        So that's who the Boeing judge is based on! From the Poles! Those will not calm down in any way, so will these. Give them the wreckage of the plane and the Poles will immediately find the traces of Buk's shot

        And I'm betting on a new unknown secret protocol to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
    2. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 21 July 2021 10: 35
      +6
      Quote: Murmur 55
      Why bother paying attention to these requests from Poland ??? Send the forest to the deep. language

      I understand that everyone is already tired of the matsarevichi, but each such briefing should begin with a question: - And what is considered normal in Poland? Where they fly is worth pondering... it seems to me the matsarevichi are trying to find out where Petrov & Bashirov were at that moment
  4. Cowbra
    Cowbra 21 July 2021 07: 06
    +1
    They won't understand. Poles do not understand Russian well, so they can only be sent to addresses known to them - either to Smolensk or to ***
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 21 July 2021 07: 18
      +1
      Quote: Cowbra
      , either in ***

      Birch forehead laughing
  5. Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 21 July 2021 07: 10
    +6
    We all have national fun: the n-owls have sanctions, the Yaps of the Kuril Islands, Poland has the wreckage of TU-154 and the Kaczynski digging. Most of all, the topic with Kaczynski got me. I am surprised that our staff perpetrators of all European troubles - Petrov and Bashirov - have not been blamed for the crash.

    Inspired by this article:

    Clouds are gloomy over Smolensk
    Air traffic controllers don't sleep
    A bunch of drunken Polish cones
    They fly on the graves of the hypanut

    Their grief to us is like in a pliers bath
    Their visit is like a rusty nail in the leg
    But for the sake of politeness and prestige
    An important Polish guest will be received

    Not in verse to describe, not in prose
    As in the autumn harvesting of firewood
    Secretly hid a birch
    Foresters Bashirov and Petrov

    Waited a long time, more than half a year
    Finally the day of judgment has come
    Who said there is no bad weather
    He did not see the Smolensk thunderstorm

    Here is a Polish liner on the glide path
    A banquet and shelter awaits them on earth
    But they stand in ambush with a birch tree
    Huntsmen Bashirov and Petrov

    Not noticing the threat in time
    The Polish side did not survive the blow
    After all, the sprout of that big birch
    Susanin himself planted in the ground
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 21 July 2021 07: 33
      +2
      Quote: Polite Elk
      Everyone has national fun: the n-owls have sanctions, the Yaps of the Kuril Islands, Poland has the wreckage of TU-154 and the digging of Kaczynski.

      The Czechs have an explosion of warehouses, the Dutch have a Boeing.
      In general, each hut has its own anti-Russian rattles.
    2. Ilya22558
      Ilya22558 21 July 2021 09: 26
      +3
      I still came across such a creation:

      "Artificial fog floats below us,
      The angry Russian turned off his old radar.
      The dispatcher is in no hurry, the dispatcher understands
      Nobody waited for our board on this lane

      You look into my eyes and breathe in the fumes:
      “Our brave president is going to go crazy now.
      If you leave for a spare, you will send them to the stokers ... "
      Another pull up and here it is ... "
  6. Professor
    Professor 21 July 2021 07: 20
    -13
    Material evidence, as is well known to the Polish side, is transferred only after completion of all investigative actions.

    It's strange. I am an amateur in matters of investigation, but for some reason it seemed to me that evidence and material evidence were needed precisely during investigation to establish the true picture of the crime. Moreover, the plane seemed to be Polish and, accordingly, its parts are Polish property for some reason held on the territory of the Russian Federation. Smells like an obstacle to the investigation.
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 21 July 2021 07: 25
      +10
      Quote: professor
      I am an amateur in matters of investigation, but

      ... but stupidity to say is sacred
      Quote: professor
      evidence and material evidence are needed precisely during the investigation

      ... which is being held in Russia - at the crash site
      1. Professor
        Professor 21 July 2021 07: 37
        -14
        Quote: Cowbra
        ... but stupidity to say is sacred

        Of course, I understand that you have a law degree, and I am a techie, but I studied logic at the university. And you? By the way, do you have Oxford or Harvard under your belt? wink

        Quote: Cowbra
        ... which is being held in Russia - at the crash site

        Is it still running (11 years !!!)? I am beginning to understand the dissatisfaction of the Polish side.

        Quote: Polite Elk
        Yeah. Withholding evidence from the investigation 11 years after its completion is not a big deal.

        In terms of "11 years after his the"? Zakharova said"Material evidence, as is well known to the Polish side, is transferred only after the all investigative actions". According to her, the investigation is not over yet. 11 years lead. hi
        1. Seryoga64
          Seryoga64 21 July 2021 08: 24
          +1
          Quote: professor
          11 years lead.

          This is how the Poles are leading. We finished ours long ago
          1. Professor
            Professor 21 July 2021 09: 52
            -6
            Quote: Seryoga64
            This is how the Poles are leading. We finished ours long ago

            If you have finished "your", why did you not transfer the material evidence to Poland?

            Material evidence, as is well known to the Polish side, is transferred only after finishing all investigative actions ".
            1. Seryoga64
              Seryoga64 21 July 2021 09: 59
              +2
              Quote: professor
              If you have finished "your", why did you not transfer the material evidence to Poland?

              Because they have not finished theirs and will be able to make anything out of them. Do you exclude falsification?
              When they finish, then let them take it away
        2. Cowbra
          Cowbra 22 July 2021 07: 19
          0
          Quote: professor
          In the sense of "later

          You would have in the sense of "pulling down", but how much to you, tolerant. Who is there to stop the investigation? Well, in "later" rummage around, maybe YOU will be lowered
    2. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 21 July 2021 07: 30
      -4
      Quote: professor
      Smells like an obstacle to the investigation.

      Yeah. Withholding evidence from the investigation 11 years after its completion is not a big deal.
    3. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 21 July 2021 07: 36
      +7
      Quote: professor
      the plane seemed to be Polish

      You are wrong. The plane belongs to Russia and was leased to the Poles
      that evidence and material evidence are needed precisely in the course of the investigation to establish the true picture of the crime.

      And they were repeatedly offered to come and carry out investigative actions on the spot. Do not go request
      1. Professor
        Professor 21 July 2021 07: 49
        -15
        Quote: Seryoga64
        You are wrong. The plane belongs to Russia and was leased to the Poles

        Where is the clue that the Polish government plane was the property of the Russian Federation?

        Quote: Seryoga64
        And they were repeatedly offered to come and carry out investigative actions on the spot. Do not go

        Probably they do not trust, but they are tired of waiting 11 years. Now they want to figure it out for themselves.
        1. Seryoga64
          Seryoga64 21 July 2021 08: 05
          +4
          Quote: professor

          Where is the clue that the Polish government plane was the property of the Russian Federation?

          Rummage in the internet
          Probably do not trust

          Who to whom?
          Now they want to figure it out for themselves.

          For 11 years they figure it out
          Even Kachinsky was taken out of the grave
          1. Professor
            Professor 21 July 2021 09: 54
            -6
            Quote: Seryoga64
            Rummage in the internet

            Got it. OBS. hi

            Quote: Seryoga64
            Who to whom?

            They are for you.

            Quote: Seryoga64

            For 11 years they figure it out
            Even Kachinsky was taken out of the grave

            That's it. And everyone is waiting for the wreckage of their plane from the Russian Federation.
            1. Seryoga64
              Seryoga64 21 July 2021 10: 06
              +1
              Quote: professor
              They are for you.

              And we are to them. Therefore, we do not give
              That's it. And everyone is waiting for the wreckage of their plane from the Russian Federation.

              There was the first investigation.
              Everything was clear to everyone. The demoniac came and started everything over again. They have already licked these debris. Now they are inviting, they are not coming.
              And give back the wreckage, they and the "Novichek" in the cockpit will find all the existing explosives in the cabin and documents addressed to Petrov and Basharov
              1. Professor
                Professor 21 July 2021 10: 21
                -5
                Quote: Seryoga64
                And we are to them. Therefore, we do not give

                Their plane, their wreckage. It would be time to return them to Poland, especially since Zakharova's excuses, apart from bewilderment, cause only laughter.

                Quote: Seryoga64
                There was the first investigation.
                Everything was clear to everyone. The demoniac came and started everything over again. They have already licked these debris. Now they are inviting, they are not coming.
                And give back the wreckage, they and the "Novichek" in the cockpit will find all the existing explosives in the cabin and documents addressed to Petrov and Basharov

                And so you obstruct the investigation, which raises many questions in the West and leads to bad thoughts about trying to hide something.
                1. Seryoga64
                  Seryoga64 21 July 2021 11: 14
                  +1
                  Quote: professor
                  It's time to return them to Poland,

                  I repeat
                  And give back the wreckage, they and the "Novichek" in the cockpit will find all the existing explosives in the cabin and documents addressed to Petrov and Basharov

                  And so you obstruct the investigation

                  I repeat
                  ... Now they are inviting, they are not coming.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 21 July 2021 12: 33
                    -5
                    Quote: Seryoga64
                    I repeat

                    Their plane, their wreckage. It would be time to return them to Poland, especially since Zakharova's excuses, apart from bewilderment, cause only laughter.

                    And so you obstruct the investigation, which raises many questions in the West and leads to bad thoughts about trying to hide something.

                    Don't repeat it again. Everything is clear to me. To the Poles too.
    4. nnm
      nnm 21 July 2021 07: 45
      +5
      This is how Russia is conducting the investigation. Moreover, the first joint conclusion of the Russian-Polish investigation group recorded the fact that there were no explosives or an explosion. But then the prime minister changed in Poland, and for the popularity among their Natsiks, they periodically began to dig Kaczynski
      1. Seryoga64
        Seryoga64 21 July 2021 08: 25
        -1
        Quote: nnm
        This is how Russia is conducting the investigation.

        Russia has completed its investigation.
        The Poles will never stop
        1. nnm
          nnm 21 July 2021 08: 36
          0
          No, not finished. As far as I remember, a lot of inquiries from our investigation team to our Polish colleagues remained unanswered. Therefore, the investigation is underway and the material evidence is in Russia. This is what Zakharova is talking about.
          1. Seryoga64
            Seryoga64 21 July 2021 08: 42
            0
            Quote: nnm
            No, not finished.

            It's finished. They put everything in its place.
            This is what Zakharova is talking about.

            Zakharova says that as soon as the Poles finish their investigation, they will be given the wreckage
            Between the lines, this means that if you give it up now, they will do anything with them and make it clear who is guilty.
            But when the investigation is over, let them take away
            1. nnm
              nnm 21 July 2021 09: 12
              +1
              Draw, colleague)))


              On April 9, 2015, the official representative of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Markin, said that the investigation of the criminal case was completed, its materials amounted to more than 400 volumes, but the department could not make a final procedural decision - the Polish side did not respond to a number of requests from the Russian investigation.
              1. Seryoga64
                Seryoga64 21 July 2021 09: 32
                -1
                Quote: nnm
                however, the agency cannot make a final procedural decision

                But the investigation itself is over. We no longer need the wreckage And procedural actions are, roughly speaking, bureaucracy
  7. cniza
    cniza 21 July 2021 08: 15
    +2
    The material evidence, as the Polish side knows very well, is transferred only after the completion of all investigative actions.


    I wonder how many more years they will rage ...
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 21 July 2021 08: 26
      -1
      Quote: cniza
      I wonder how many more years they will rage ...

      Until the next president at least request
      Hi hi
      1. cniza
        cniza 21 July 2021 14: 15
        +2
        hi

        And the next one will be better? I doubt it ...
    2. nnm
      nnm 21 July 2021 08: 37
      +1
      Judging by the fact that they have been having fun with this since about the 17th century, they will have enough enthusiasm for a long time.
      Well, or until your last, final section for the sake of a calm and peaceful life in Europe.
      1. cniza
        cniza 21 July 2021 14: 17
        +2
        It's not long left to wait ...
  8. APASUS
    APASUS 21 July 2021 09: 09
    +1
    It makes no sense at all to hand over the Tu-154 wreckage to the Poles. The admission must be 100%, let them come and investigate, but as soon as the wreckage crosses the border, the headless will immediately find the Novichok there.
  9. sanya_sergant
    sanya_sergant 21 July 2021 11: 29
    +7
    Give them a birch stump. Let them explore.
  10. Daria33
    Daria33 21 July 2021 13: 39
    0
    Warsaw uses this catastrophe to criticize Russia so wildly that, willy-nilly, the question arises as to whether Poland itself organized it. The Polish politicians came to the place of the catastrophe ...
  11. Sergey Nikiforov
    Sergey Nikiforov 21 July 2021 13: 46
    0
    There is a lot to say, especially about what you don’t know. Then someone hinted that, like, there is no ill-fated birch. I answer, it’s worth. But here’s what surprises. The first few years after the disaster, the crash site was open for free visits. Although there’s nothing to see there. in two languages ​​and a Catholic wooden cross But there were always a lot of memorial lamps, wreaths and other funeral paraphernalia 4 years ago, the crash site was surrounded by a fence, a thick thorn was put on top, a plate in two languages ​​was hung on the gate, which says that the crash site is TEMPORARILY closed To this day closed Question, why.? And yet, the wreckage of the plane is not very far from the place of the crash. Nobody is looking after them. Whatever questions, I say that I myself am from Smolensk, and I passed the crashed plane last, before the place was cordoned off. But the plane itself, lying up the chassis saw