Military Review

Something will happen to oil. But only in 2023

56
Something will happen to oil. But only in 2023

How to deal with the pluses



The restriction on oil production, provided for by the OPEC + agreement, in which almost all countries with significant production capacities participate, were extended immediately until the end of 2022. This became known on Sunday following a somewhat belated July meeting in Vienna.

Another Vienna meeting of oil producers ended unexpectedly peacefully. And this is despite the fact that the number of those wishing (not always publicly) to remove all restrictions on the extraction of black gold are constantly growing. With each ministerial meeting, one or two countries are added.

Nevertheless, so far even the most violent ones, such as once Mexico, Russia or Kazakhstan, then Nigeria and the United Arab Emirates, and now Iran and Iraq, have been persuaded to calmly increase the total volume of production. 400 barrels per day monthly.

This relaxation means that the OPEC + deal will actually be reduced to almost zero in about a year. By that time, the total production volumes will be equal to the average, which were recorded several months before the pandemic.

In this regard, for some reason, October 2018 was taken as the starting point, but the ministers there, in Vienna, seem to know better. It is possible that in September, at their next meeting, the starting points will be different.


In the meantime, by the end of this year, the level of production reduction should decrease from the current 5,76 million barrels per day to 3,7 million barrels per day in total for all parties to the agreement.

Then, as we can see, it will take only nine months to reach the pre-pandemic level. However, the main result of the Vienna meeting in July 2021, observers consider the fact that none of the parties to the agreement opposed the maintenance of the mechanism for coordinating oil production levels.

The bargaining is only about specific quotas for specific countries, and such parties to the agreement as Iran and Iraq, heavily affected by the sanctions, are less active in this regard than, for example, the UAE, Qatar or Kuwait. The latter, it seems, literally every barrel.

How to be without pluses


The Vienna agreements also do not cancel the very possibility of introducing, if necessary, new restrictions on production. In addition, the representatives of Saudi Arabia made it clear that in the event of uncoordinated actions by any of the OPEC + participants, they reserve the right to more actively maneuver their own production volumes than before.

Recall that the daily million barrels from the sheikhs at one time allowed to raise oil quotes to levels that, due to the pandemic, seemed unattainable to many. Now oil, as you know, is quoted only 25-30 percent lower than before the pandemic.

A certain danger of a new wave of falling demand remains, since even rather high rates of vaccination in developed countries have not yet led to a turning point. The threat of new lockdowns persists; accordingly, the threat of serious economic problems and, as a consequence, a strong drop in demand for hydrocarbons is recorded.

The situation is aggravated by the activation of environmentalists and fighters against global warming, which is why the oil and gas market is simply under unprecedented pressure from the media.

But the protracted saga with the "Northern Channel-2" only in the short term promised to remove a number of problems, although so far it only creates them, but for oil and gas prices this is only an additional stimulus to growth.

Nevertheless, it is no coincidence that from May 2022, it is planned to establish increased production quotas for the five countries of the OPEC + agreement (Russia, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait and Iraq). The pluses for them will actually turn into new minuses.

Thus, the leading tandem in the agreement, Russia and Saudi Arabia, assumed additional quotas of 500 barrels per day. However, they immediately demanded support from the UAE, which received a new reduction quota of 000 thousand barrels, as well as Iraq and Kuwait, which accounted for 330 thousand barrels each.


Fear factor


Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak, the curator of the Russian fuel and energy complex, has no doubt that the current oil shortage on the market does not in the least frighten OPEC + participants. The factor of fear for them is the very real prospect of a momentary drop in demand.
He recalled that OPEC + made a key decision - slowly and correctly, but with a constant eye on the conjuncture, to restore oil production to the pre-crisis level. Of the amount of 400 thousand daily barrels, Russia will increase oil production by 100 thousand every month.

Our oil industry is to reach the pre-crisis level in that very May 2022, when the aforementioned quotas for the “five” begin to operate. Novak has no doubts that the slightly adjusted rules of the game will allow Russia to increase production by a total of 21 million tons of oil during this and next years.

According to the Deputy Prime Minister, the country's budget can count on additional replenishment in the amount of more than 400 billion rubles. At the same time, Alexander Novak noted that the calculation was carried out based on the average oil price of $ 60 per barrel, which is about 20% lower than the current level.

Let's remind that before the last weekend the exchange trading in oil closed at 73,3 dollars per barrel for Brent and 71,5 dollars per barrel of WTI.

2019, the last year before the surge in Covid-19, became a record for the Russian oil industry. Then oil production in our country increased by 0,8% to 561,2 million tons. And the past pandemic year, as one might expect, almost broke all anti-records with a drop of 8,6% at once compared to the previous year - up to 512,8 million tons.

Coordination of efforts of oil-producing countries became possible almost immediately after the brutal, albeit short and by no means victorious, oil war between Russia and Saudi Arabia. Then, as you know, the sheikhs went for an unprecedented dumping, but, having suffered huge financial losses, they themselves became the initiators of the new OPEC + agreement.


Agreements involving not only Russia, but also the traditionally intractable USA and Mexico. Today, a coordinated and smooth increase in production volumes can be considered the optimal solution. It helps to avoid not only a fall in prices in the event of an oversupply, as well as a shortage of hydrocarbons, but also overheating of the market.

Demand by all indications, unless the pandemic presents new unpleasant surprises, will gradually recover. And the agreements reached are a kind of insurance and a positive signal to reduce tension in the oil market.
Author:
56 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 21 July 2021 11: 08
    0
    ***
    OPEC is a delicate matter ...
    ***
    1. Alien From
      Alien From 21 July 2021 11: 13
      +2
      Indeed, it breaks quickly.
      1. xorek
        xorek 23 July 2021 18: 50
        -7
        Quote: Alien From
        Indeed, it breaks quickly.

        But you won't frighten Russia with a drop in oil prices .. We were ready for this, Putin has good analysts .. Well done! We survived, and even with this pandemic, we came out with minimal losses .. Keep it up!
  2. NDR-791
    NDR-791 21 July 2021 11: 14
    +16
    What difference does it make to the oil? If the price goes up, we will pay more, if the price goes down, we will pay more.
    1. URAL72
      URAL72 21 July 2021 12: 05
      -17%
      Are you from Ukraine by any chance? Is my hut on the edge? Think only of yourself. And you have to think about the power. And then all sorts of divorced here - in life the puppy has never worked, and already "and what did this state give me?" Yes, everything: education, medicine, public transport, law and order, at least some, not the wild west. If anyone does not need the state, please go to the taiga. Every second young person is like that, if not more. Didn't do anything, but everyone already owes him.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 21 July 2021 12: 15
        -8
        Quote: URAL72
        If anyone does not need the state, please go to the taiga. Every second young person is like that, if not more. Didn't do anything, but everyone already owes him.

        stop And what for are they to us in the taiga?
        Let them joke about in another state if they are not satisfied with theirs. yes
      2. NDR-791
        NDR-791 21 July 2021 12: 32
        +14
        Quote: URAL72
        Are you from Ukraine by any chance? Is my hut on the edge? Think only of yourself. And you have to think about the power. And then all sorts of divorced here - in life the puppy has never worked, and already "and what did this state give me?" Yes, everything: education, medicine, public transport, law and order, at least some, not the wild west. If anyone does not need the state, please go to the taiga. Every second young person is like that, if not more. Didn't do anything, but everyone already owes him.

        No, I'm from Siberia. I am 52. I have been working since the age of 14. Raised and taught two children. He did not take a penny from the state.
        1. URAL72
          URAL72 21 July 2021 12: 37
          -13%
          Are you sure? After all, I have listed - free medicine in your time, education is also free. And who supports the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the army, builds roads? Don't you use it? Yes, many things, without the state they would have lived in the Stone Age.
          1. NDR-791
            NDR-791 21 July 2021 12: 38
            +13
            And what does the price of gasoline have to do with it ??? I pay for it WITHOUT state participation. In the end, our former governor asked why, given the presence of an oil refinery, our gasoline is more expensive than our neighbors? Answered - if you want to watch hockey - pay more for gasoline. About medicine, roads, etc. so sorry, if I didn’t pay taxes, then I accepted your claim, and so ...
            1. URAL72
              URAL72 21 July 2021 12: 45
              -10%
              So I'm talking about this - how to pay for gasoline is mine, but as children go to school, so "you give a free education!" And where does the money come from? That's right, taxes, excise taxes, including on gasoline, vodka, cigarettes. But social bread is not subject to excise duty, moreover, it is also subsidized from the budget. And you say not a penny. We just got used to it and we think that's the way it should be. We do not notice that the state still supports us. Take the same maternity capital. Go to Africa, tell us about him - they won't believe you. Is it only to Africa?
              1. NDR-791
                NDR-791 21 July 2021 13: 16
                +13
                Quote: URAL72
                We do not notice that the state still supports us. Take the same maternity capital.

                I cannot but agree in general terms. But not in any way in relation to myself. My children are 91st and 98th years of birth. Maternity capital you say? So, people like me have every moral right to swing in the direction of the state. wassat And in vain you swear at me, I'm thick-skinned, and even IMHO all the time tongue
              2. Hypertension
                Hypertension 21 July 2021 15: 37
                +10
                Quote: URAL72
                We do not notice that the state still supports us.

                This is his responsibility. It (the state) consists of officials hired by the people for the people’s money.
                There is no "public money" there is only taxpayer money.(C)
                1. URAL72
                  URAL72 21 July 2021 15: 54
                  -14%
                  Tell this to someone in Africa or Afghanistan for example. You seem to be far from economics as well as political science. Citizens' taxes are a drop in the budget, much less than even customs duties. And there are other items of income. Or tell me about the people's money of state employees who are not involved in production and receive money from the budget themselves. Or take Norway, where taxes exceed 70% of citizens' income. In Russia, less than 50%. And the state, well, they are not officials at all - they are just governing the state.
                  1. Hypertension
                    Hypertension 21 July 2021 16: 41
                    +8
                    Quote: URAL72
                    Tell this to someone in Africa or Afghanistan for example.

                    Why compare Russia with Africa?
                    Quote: URAL72
                    And there are other items of income.

                    All the benefits that the state controls are not taken out of thin air. All of them are mined and produced by the population of the country. The state only distributes.
                    Quote: URAL72
                    Or take Norway, where taxes exceed 70% of citizens' income. In Russia, less than 50%

                    Norway is a rich country. They will not lose money, and even stay for living.
                    1. URAL72
                      URAL72 21 July 2021 16: 50
                      -10%
                      Why not compare? Don't people live there? Or are there no states there? We can compare with Latin America, they also live well, maybe except for Chile. And this despite the fact that stick a stick there, it will take root in a day, and it's warm there. What a savings on energy supply. Well, if that doesn't work, then it’s not so bad in Russia. So what are you constantly complaining about? Did we have at least one ruler to make everyone happy?
                      1. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 21 July 2021 16: 59
                        +7
                        Quote: URAL72
                        Why not compare? Don't people live there?

                        Because most of the countries in Africa are third world countries. And Russia claims to be a superpower. Then it is necessary to be equal to the advanced countries and not to Africa.
                        Quote: URAL72
                        so it’s not so bad in Russia

                        Not so bad, but it could be better.
                        And all the same, to say that this state gives us something (something in excess of what we have produced, mined and earned) is wrong. The state cannot have more benefits than its population has produced.
                      2. URAL72
                        URAL72 21 July 2021 17: 15
                        -9
                        Then it is necessary to be equal to the advanced countries

                        Who said that you need to look up to someone? You can marry your neighbor if you want to match the prosperous Europe. We have our own way, and it is not easy. We, like no one else, have to think about defense, the development of very hard-to-reach territories, the eternal struggle with the climate that takes up a lot of resources, the zone of risky farming, permafrost, which makes it difficult and more expensive to build infrastructure, and much more. The Russian character is an eternal struggle, sometimes at the limit of possibilities. But of course you want to have a martini on the Cote d'Azur.
                      3. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 21 July 2021 17: 20
                        +8
                        Quote: URAL72
                        You can marry your neighbor if you want to match the prosperous Europe.

                        Yes, I meant the economy and the level of corruption ... And here you project your vision of "aligning with Europe." Who has something that hurts, yeah ...
                        Quote: URAL72
                        We, like no one else, have to think about defense, the development of very hard-to-reach territories, the eternal struggle against the climate that takes up a lot of resources, the zone of risky farming,

                        Yes, yes, yes ... How many times have I already written: Every Swede spends more on defense than a Russian. And about the climate: compare Finland with the Karelian region - the climate there is the same. And the same Sweden is not much warmer.
                      4. aybolyt678
                        aybolyt678 26 July 2021 20: 08
                        0
                        Quote: URAL72
                        The Russian character is an eternal struggle, sometimes at the limit of possibilities.

                        the limit for that and the limit that reached him, stepped over and went on laughing
                  2. Kronos
                    Kronos 21 July 2021 22: 57
                    +4
                    You can compare and it will turn out that in terms of salaries they are ahead of Russia.
                  3. Firelake
                    Firelake 23 July 2021 08: 16
                    0
                    The middle class is 17 thousand. How much more?)
                  4. URAL72
                    URAL72 23 July 2021 11: 03
                    -4
                    Are you serious? And how many cars (passenger cars) in the country are more expensive than $ 20 thousand? Poor people if they take a car is no more expensive than a VAZ, and often a used one. But in Russia, even in the outback, it is not uncommon to see a Mercedes, a BMW, and other toys more expensive than $ 50. Look at the Caucasians - they trade, steal, do not work. But they drive foreign cars. Or maybe it was the beggars who made the hotels in Egypt, Turkey, Thailand speak Russian? I don't know where your figure comes from, probably from Navalny, but he himself is clearly middle class. We have more dollar millionaires, and this is no longer the middle class. Every second traffic cop is middle class, or look at what cars poor university teachers drive. Do you know how much I paid a private dentist? Just look around. You will see that in reality our middle class is not so small, only the poor complain more. But everything is clear here - who is hiding from taxes, and who is simply stealing from the same state and people.
                  5. Firelake
                    Firelake 24 July 2021 19: 07
                    +1
                    Not Russians, but cities with a million inhabitants. The statistics of foreign passports is more than indicative.
                    Average figure from the lips of the guarantor.
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 23 July 2021 06: 49
          +2
          Quote: URAL72
          Or take Norway, where taxes exceed 70% of citizens' income. In Russia, less than 50%

          Well, tell me, why then the Norwegians do not live better than the Russians, storyteller?

          There is a differentiated scale of taxes. Ever heard of such a thing? With such a salary as a Russian, in Norway they do not pay taxes at all.
          1. URAL72
            URAL72 23 July 2021 11: 18
            +1
            Do not go to you, we do not know each other, and in general I hate whiners like you. I am with "that" Ukraine. Lawyer. I had a computer repair service center in Kiev. Three-ruble note in Kherson. Out-of-town 6 acres. But when the war began, I left for Donbass. Of course I can't go back. I've lost everything. But I'm not complaining like you. Not only I don't have a Zhiguli, but even a TV and a computer in a rented apartment. Redmi 7A only. Why did I do it? Yes, so that the Ukrainians do not get into NATO and the EU. Because EVERYONE must give everything, even the skin, if the state is in danger. It's like I climbed on machine guns in a minefield in the Second World War. Here I did it too. You are not capable of this.
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 23 July 2021 13: 03
              +3
              Quote: URAL72
              I am with "that" Ukraine.

              Suddenly. I then took you for a local kremlebot))

              Quote: URAL72
              But when the war began, I left for Donbass.

              Deed. I respect you. But still, I would like to know, was it worth it? You were thrown. Instead of accepting the Donbass into its home harbor, following the example of the Crimea, Donbass was turned into a gray territory of little use for life, into a puppet controlled by the Kremlin. Isn't it a shame? That's serious. Did you expect this when you sacrificed everything?

              Quote: URAL72
              It's like I climbed on machine guns in a minefield in the Second World War. Here I did it too. You are not capable of this.

              Maybe you are right. Do not know. It would be for the sake of something, otherwise this is not now (for me at least). By the way, half of the residents of Donbass ended up either in Ukraine or in Russia during the hostilities. And I do not blame them at all. We all know very well what a terrible award the people's commanders received for presenting Donbass to the Kremlin on a silver platter.

              Quote: URAL72
              Not only I don't have a Zhiguli, but even a TV and a computer in a rented apartment.

              Terrible things. The main thing is that you are alive and I hope all your relatives! But, how do you write in VO? From the phone or what?
            2. URAL72
              URAL72 23 July 2021 13: 23
              -3
              I am writing from Smart, 4G is everywhere. There is something to fight for, - the Americans say: "my country is not right, but this is my country." It turns out that the corrupt Yankees are more patriots than we are. The question is about preserving the state and I do not care who is in power and what kind of state system, although I am a member of the Communist Party of Ukraine. Nobody threw us, as they did not promise or ask for anything. We did it ourselves, we decided so ourselves. And thanks for the help. I am not bad at political economics, even from the 4th grade I conducted political information, studied at the law faculty. But even I was hoping for a Crimean scenario, preferably for the whole of Ukraine or at least the South-East. But from the beginning I knew that countries with territorial problems would not be admitted to NATO. So Donbass will maintain its existing status for a long time, fulfilling its task of preventing Ukraine from joining NATO and the EU. And what does the puppet have to do with it? Isn't Crimea controlled by the Kremlin? Or are we not Russians?
          2. mmaxx
            mmaxx 27 July 2021 15: 01
            +1
            I will support. I hate whiners. I had nothing special with the Sov. Authorities. And the whole formation of capitalism was bulldozed. But I don’t whine. That's why I'm going forward.
            Sneeze at all those who whine. They are doing well where they are not. Only they won't go there.
  3. TANKISTONE
    TANKISTONE 23 July 2021 22: 17
    0
    URAL72 (Oleg)
    So I'm talking about this - how to pay for gasoline is mine, but as children go to school, so "you give a free education!" And where does the money come from? That's right, taxes, excise taxes, including on gasoline, vodka, cigarettes. But social bread is not subject to excise duty, moreover, it is also subsidized from the budget. And you say not a penny. We just got used to it and we think that's the way it should be. We do not notice that the state still supports us. Take the same maternity capital. Go to Africa, tell us about him - they won't believe you. Is it only to Africa?
    "... Having no high passion,
    For the sounds of life do not spare,
    He could not iamba from chorea,
    As we fought, to distinguish.
    Branil Homer, Theocritus;
    But I read Adam Smith
    And he was a deep economy,
    That is, he knew how to judge,
    As the state grows rich,
    And what lives, and why
    He does not need gold,
    When a simple product has.
    Father could not understand him
    And he gave the land as a pledge. "(C)
    AS Pushkin
    Novel in verse
    Eugene Onegin

    Chapter I

    Stanza VII
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 21 July 2021 19: 09
    +12
    Quote: URAL72
    I have listed, - free medicine in your time

    In the tax that the employer pays for each employee, there is a medical tax. So medicine is paid.
    And yet - why should ordinary people think about the state, and not the powers that be, withdrawing money to offshores, and buying mansions in London and Paris for relatives?
  • Stas157
    Stas157 23 July 2021 06: 28
    +1
    Quote: URAL72
    After all, I have listed - free medicine in your time, education is also free. And who contains Ministry of Internal Affairs, army, building roads? You are not use?

    This is how the Tsar and Sveta are kept personally! Father! Our breadwinner !! And the ungrateful taxpayers are mean enjoy free gifts !!!
  • Firelake
    Firelake 23 July 2021 08: 09
    +2
    Well, with pensions already thrown. With the reassessment of harmful industries, they also threw it. They threw me with medicine. Education went to the trash heap. The welfare of the people is not growing. The population's credit burden is growing. For 20 years, they got up from their knees in order to devalue the ruble twice in 14, and then print a lot of money under the covid and throw it through state employees, and then be surprised from the TV that the price of potatoes is breaking records. But exactly in the same place the harvest was not fruitful ...
    Unfortunately, our state cannot treat children (I'm talking about TV fees) and instead of stimulating the birth rate through social support, migrants are brought in. Well, ok che, so we will win!
  • aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 26 July 2021 20: 05
    0
    Quote: URAL72
    And then all sorts of divorced here, - in life the puppy has never worked

    I have been working all my life, there are 9 years left until retirement, and you need an operation to replace both hip joints. 220 thousand rubles one. Queue for a year and a half .. skip the line even tomorrow Outraged that in fact, since I was 18 years old, minus the army and study, I paid social fear. And must wait in line. Okay, I’m working now, I’ll find money, but will I go to retire? what will happen again turn? but will I live?
    Medicine is a thoroughly corrupt industry. Look at the list of essential medicines, there are no cheap ones. There are only very expensive things. Think because it's good? not at all. Just for these supposedly free medicines, some people are very well paid from our taxes!
    The popular anger was skillfully redirected to the violated right not to be vaccinated against covid ...
    In Moscow, the tiles have already been moved 3 times.
    And who got divorced here?
  • Woodman
    Woodman 21 July 2021 11: 29
    +13
    Now oil, as you know, is quoted only 25-30 percent lower than before the pandemic.

    Russia will increase oil production by 100 thousand every month.

    Nevertheless

    I would venture to suggest that gasoline will rise again in price ...
    1. Firelake
      Firelake 23 July 2021 08: 16
      0
      Putin's fight against gasoline prices ...
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 21 July 2021 11: 29
    +11
    In any case, it will affect the Russian consumer, there has not yet been such a situation that the prices for gasoline and diesel fuel in Russia have fallen. More oil will be produced or less. Prices will rise steadily.
    1. SERGE ANT
      SERGE ANT 21 July 2021 17: 02
      +19
      Namely, and in order to issue such a forecast, one does not need to be either a Doctor of Economics, a Candidate of Economic Sciences, or a professor of sour cabbage soup or an astrologer. It is enough to live the last thirty years, such stability has been observed all these years. This is not that stability. ,when
      Unfortunately..
  • ccsr
    ccsr 21 July 2021 13: 12
    +6
    Demand by all indications, unless the pandemic presents new unpleasant surprises, will gradually recover.

    Judging by the climatic cataclysms in Europe, China and the Middle East, the demand for oil will increase, if only because many cities will have to be rebuilt and many additional cars produced. So we are entering a period of steady growth in oil prices - I think so.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 21 July 2021 14: 25
    +2
    "There will be something with oil. But only in 2023" - It will rise in price from year to year.
  • Vavilov
    Vavilov 21 July 2021 19: 40
    +9
    most likely consumption will fall and prices will rise
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 July 2021 16: 44
      +1
      With what this consumption will fall - the population is growing, the need for chemical, medical engineering and other products will grow, but oil reserves will decrease.
      1. Vavilov
        Vavilov 22 July 2021 21: 47
        -3
        well, since you admit that stocks will decrease, then consumption will also, of course, not in 23, but a little later wink But the main thing is not even stocks that will affect demand, but new technologies, the market and politics: the transition to a different energy structure, taxes on recycling plastic waste, taxes on emissions, investments will be banned in hydrocarbons ...! etc.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 23 July 2021 18: 30
          -1
          Only in your fantasies, unless - humanity will still need hydrocarbons for a very long time, since they will not be replaced by anything in chemistry, mechanical engineering or pharmaceuticals, the demand for them will grow as well as for rare earth metals, and no technologies will en masse. will replace.
          "It is not stocks that will affect demand, but new technologies, the market and politics: the transition to a different energy structure, taxes on recycling plastic waste, taxes on emissions, investments will be banned in hydrocarbons ...! Etc., etc." - Hello Brad
  • xorek
    xorek 22 July 2021 19: 12
    -4
    Russia is no longer the same and the price of oil will no longer be able to blackmail us .. Learned by bitter experience! And your sanctions, we are also only a plus.!
    I will not say that we have gotten off the oil and gas needle, but the economy will withstand, I think, any alignment (we have been preparing for 20 years))).
    1. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 24 July 2021 21: 14
      +4
      Quote: xorek
      Russia is no longer the same and the price of oil will no longer be able to blackmail us .. Learned by bitter experience! And your sanctions, we are also only a plus.!
      I will not say that we have gotten off the oil and gas needle, but the economy will withstand, I think, any alignment (we have been preparing for 20 years))).

      What about the gas in the villages and cottage settlements and suburban areas?
      Since Putin's words, nothing has changed ...
      Only the price of gas in Europe has grown and, accordingly, Gazprom does not care even more about its citizens.
      And with the SP-2, he will not even be bothered by the fact that not only villages and settlements do not have gas mains. Many cities in our country do not have main gas.
      Yeah ..
      In a country with Gazprom ..
  • t-12
    t-12 22 July 2021 19: 20
    -2
    In 2023, there will be nothing with oil. But a little later ...

    1. t-12
      t-12 22 July 2021 19: 24
      -1
      To the disputants on a note: you can argue here only about the timing (plus or minus 10-20 years), and not about the principle (in the foreseeable future, the oil will run out).
      1. Yamamoto
        Yamamoto 23 July 2021 10: 51
        -3
        To the disputants on a note: you can only argue about the timing, and not about the principle (in the foreseeable future, oil will become useless slurry due to technological development).
        1. t-12
          t-12 23 July 2021 13: 24
          -1
          If there is a controlled fusion, then the oil will become unnecessary slurry. And if thermonuclear power plants are not invented ... then universal sadness and world war for the remains of oil.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 23 July 2021 18: 32
            -3
            Please finish raving.
          2. SovAr238A
            SovAr238A 24 July 2021 21: 09
            +1
            Quote: t-12
            If there is a controlled fusion, then the oil will become unnecessary slurry. And if thermonuclear power plants are not invented ... then universal sadness and world war for the remains of oil.

            Look at the chemistry textbook ..
            At least once.
            Quartet

            Nowadays, even vodka is easier to make from oil than from grain or potatoes.
            Easier and cheaper.
        2. Dym71
          Dym71 23 July 2021 16: 04
          +1
          Quote: Yamamoto
          in the foreseeable future, oil will become useless slurry due to technological development

          laughing
          Here for you:
          What is made from oil - TOP 72 products

          https://barrel.black/chto-delayut-iz-nefti.html
        3. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 24 July 2021 21: 17
          0
          I understand that Yamamoto and t-12 are one bot, working under different nicknames.
          I screwed up and substituted ..
          Admins should ban both ...
      2. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A 24 July 2021 21: 07
        +2
        Quote: t-12
        To the disputants on a note: you can argue here only about the timing (plus or minus 10-20 years), and not about the principle (in the foreseeable future, the oil will run out).

        Are you aware of the fact that previously shut down fields due to depletion are usually restarted after 5-10 years, due to oil filling?
        No?
        Know - this is so!
  • iouris
    iouris 23 July 2021 10: 24
    0
    There will be some oil in some year. But not at 23.
  • SovAr238A
    SovAr238A 24 July 2021 21: 04
    +4
    Everything would be fine ...
    But ...
    When you indirectly know about the Russian production infrastructure, primary processing, oil transportation, all these reductions and quotas are like a sickle in the eggs ...
    How many costs are there ...
    Among the swamps of Western Siberia ...
    How many kickbacks ...
    Transneft is changing the pipe in the Fedorovskoye area, at a price of under a billion rubles per kilometer of pipe.
    I saw with my own eyes how this is done.
    Colossal costs.
    the creation of temporary roads in the swamps - logs, logs, sand, a lot of sand, a lot of sand, until the swamp stops accepting.
    A technique worth several million dollars, which easily and naturally sinks, breaking through the bedrock.
    Every 25 meters huge sandbags on the pipe - otherwise it floats.
    And every 10-15 years - change the pipe ...
    It corrodes, despite all the electrochemical protection.
    And such pipes go for many thousands of kilometers.
    In a completely hostile natural environment.
    Not counting all oil refineries.
    But it is no secret that the gushing oil has been gone for a long time.
    All available oil has to be produced either by water injection, five times more than oil, which is then separated at individual enterprises.
    Or through hydraulic fracturing.
    Which is also very expensive.
    When I found out the cost of special sand for hydraulic fracturing, I was shocked ...

    On the other hand, Kuwait, the Saudis.

    where the pipe length is 300 km.
    Light oil.
    Gushing still.