Akin to full-fledged military operations: on testing armored vehicles in Russia

Tests of all types of armored vehicles, including foreign ones, are carried out in Russia at the Research and Testing Institute of Armored Weapons and Equipment. At a special testing ground in Kubinka, a variety of options for armored vehicles are being tested, including promising domestic developments.

At the test ranges of the 38th NII BTVT (BTT), procedures are being implemented that are akin to full-fledged combat operations. Here, armored vehicles are fired on in order to identify the disadvantages and advantages of booking options. Practical target shooting is practiced, including in motion - with turns tank towers, when using the main weapon or weapons of the combat modules. When studying the characteristics of armored vehicles, experiments are carried out with what angle, with what ultimate load the armor can withstand the hit of artillery shells, how to protect armored vehicles from a shot from an anti-tank guided complex.

The plot of "Military Acceptance" on the "Zvezda" TV channel tells in detail about the tests carried out by the military personnel at the training grounds of the aforementioned scientific research institute. In particular, Dmitry Degtyarev, deputy head of the institute's department, talks about the tests that are being carried out in relation to the unified Russian platform "Armata", including the T-14 tank. The study of the shots is carried out using special equipment, including a Doppler radar station.

The plot of the shopping center "Zvezda":

Comments

[Seryoga64]

... Here, armored vehicles are fired on in order to identify the disadvantages and advantages of booking options. Practical shooting at targets is being practiced, including on the move - with the turns of the tank turret, when using the main weapon or weapons of the combat modules. When studying the characteristics of armored vehicles, experiments are carried out with what angle, with what ultimate load the armor can withstand the hit of artillery shells, how to protect armored vehicles from a shot from an anti-tank guided complex.

Abruptly

[Kuroneko]

Quote: Seryoga64

Abruptly

It would be cool if the Russian Navy conducted its tests as it should, and not to fit the desired result, in fact, falsification. Or when he is simply afraid to conduct, because all interested people know that this will not lead to anything good for them.
At VO, many authors have repeatedly revealed the glaring problems of our fleet. = _ =
And things are still there.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Kuroneko

It would be cool if the Russian Navy conducted its tests as it should,

I said about the tank training ground.
I do not know anything about the tests at the training grounds of the Navy

[knn54]

It is no secret (Putin publicly admitted) that Russian aid to Syria allowed the Russian army to increase its combat capability and test new weapons.
For example, a MASSIVE launch of sea-based cruise missiles.
The experience of fighting in urban conditions "Uralvagonozavod" took into account in subsequent measures to strengthen the protection of armored vehicles and its crew. And in the creation of a tank for military operations in the city. At the same time in no way detracting from the importance of the ranges. Especially in terms of their CONSTANT improvement, it is hard in training, easy in battle.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

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Armor is strong, and our tanks are fast,
And our people are full of courage:
Russian tankers are in the ranks -
Sons of their great Motherland ...
***

[-sa-]

Kaz t72 did not work or did it seem to me so?

[Bad_gr]

Quote: -sa-

Kaz t72 did not work or did it seem to me so?

A flying grenade in a red circle. On a tank, shooting a submunition

Submunition explosion

Explosion of a submunition, a grenade is still flying, fountains around it on the ground from being hit by fragments.

The black ring is an exploded grenade (knocked down by fragments of a submunition)

[Nikolaevich I]

"Sub-ammunition" is not a correct expression in this case! Usually the name "counter. Ammunition" (KB) or "protective ammunition" (ZB) is used when describing tank KAZ ... (Sometimes the expression "interceptor ammunition" is used) ...

[-sa-]

No, I'm talking about the kaz that they experienced with the film crew of the shopping mall Zvezda

[OgnennyiKotik]

It is about testing at the 29th minute. They fired from SPG-9, KAZ did not work.

[Nikolaevich I]

When there is a "discussion" about KAZs, then the "experts" get scary stories about the "dangerous impact of protective ammunition of KAZs on the infantry ..."! Moreover. arguments that the infantry does not have to "clump" around the tanks all the time does not work on them ... But if the infantry is "crowded" around the tank. then it may be worth remembering that the Arena's protective ammunition is triggered at a distance of 25-30 m from the MBT ... and the fragments enter the ground at sharp angles away from the armored vehicle! And if the infantry "accompanies" the tank, at the same time hiding behind it and "zyrya" on the sides; then from which side will fire on the tank be more likely? From the "front" in the direction of movement ... there the KAZ will be, first of all, aimed, and there is no infantry there!

[-sa-]

Yes, and from the sides of the tank during hostilities, they usually do not clump together ... more often behind the equipment. Moreover, even if the infantry is on the sides even without kaz, then from the explosion of the ammunition that flew into the board, so and so to everyone who is close will seem.

[Professor]

Quote: -sa-

Yes, and from the sides of the tank during hostilities, they usually do not clump together ... more often behind the equipment. Moreover, even if the infantry is on the sides even without kaz, then from the explosion of the ammunition that flew into the board, so and so to everyone who is close will seem.

This is if there is only one tank in the field. Well, if there are several tanks, then any neighboring tank is death to the infantry. Well, except that tanks will stand in a row like on a parade in front of the Kremlin.

[-sa-]

That's curious ... but what if we make a javelin kaz of the type of heat traps in aviation? The javelin is directed to heat

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

When there is a "discussion" about KAZs, then the "experts" get scary stories about the "dangerous impact of protective ammunition of KAZs on the infantry ..."!

If horror stories tell about the Ukrainian KAZ "Zaslon", then it is quite justified: it mows everything next to the tank, although the destruction of the attacking ammunition is not guaranteed.
Shrapnel-covered sector

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Bad_gr

If horror stories tell about the Ukrainian KAZ "Zaslon", then it is quite justified

Well, "Zaslon" .... it's "Zaslon"! But there are other KAZs, which are not as dangerous as the "Zaslon", but I would not like to stand next to them, although they are advertised as "the safest for the infantry"! For example, the German ADS! And by the way about "Barrier"! What do we know about him? We know that the Ukrainian KAZ "Zaslon" is an improved Soviet KAZ "Dozhd"! What do we usually read about "Rain"? That "the ships were maneuvering, maneuvering; but not fishing!" Refused in the Union from "Rain"! But "suddenly" articles began to appear lately, where they say so about the KAZ "Dozhd" ...: 1. We also worked on "Dozhm" after KAZ "Drozd" ... 2. Good results were obtained! ; 3. It is not clear why the work on the KAZ "Rain" was stopped! It is possible to characterize the KAZ "Rain / Zaslon" in any way, but if there are certain drawbacks, one can note the "plus" ...: The cheapness (relatively comparative ...) of the KAZ and the ease of its installation! The "reduced" efficiency of the KAZ can be "compensated" by that very ... "cheapness and simplicity"!

[OgnennyiKotik]

The screen was brought to the Turks series. Their modification has already been seen in combat conditions.

[Romario_Argo]

attack is 5% of the total time of the use of armored vehicles where the defeat is within 30 degrees along the course, mainly in places covered by remote sensing
usually in 95% of cases, tanks and infantry fighting vehicles are on the defensive in such trenches

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