In identifying Taiwan's air defense, China intends to use the tactics of the Azerbaijani military in Karabakh

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In the event of the outbreak of hostilities, in identifying Taiwan's air defense, China intends to use the tactics of the Azerbaijani military in Karabakh. This conclusion can be made if we analyze the actions of the PLA Air Force, which conducted duty flights of their combat aviation close to the air borders of Taiwan.

It is reported by the Indian edition of the EurAsian Times.



These exercises have received particular attention due to the fact that they involved outdated aircraft of the Chinese Air Force. These were Chengdu J-7 fighters. They began to be produced back in the 60s of the last century and have long been removed from service. In addition to them, modern multipurpose J-16s, accompanied by the Shaanxi Y-8 electronic warfare aircraft, took part in the maneuvers.

Commenting on the exercise, the Chinese press noted that their likely goal is to try to test the effectiveness of the Taiwanese air defense system. Military sources of the South China Morning Post say that some of the decommissioned J-7s were converted into UAVs, so it is possible that such "modernized" fighters were sent to Taiwan. An interesting feature of these aircraft is that on radar they are very similar to the American F-16, which are in service with the Taiwanese Air Force.

Last fall, in the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh, the Azerbaijani army used An-2 unmanned aerial vehicles, nicknamed "corners", to identify the location of Armenian air defense systems with their help. UAVs mistook for warplanes and shot down, after which the discovered positions were attacked by Azerbaijani strike drones.
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  1. +5
    July 13 2021
    Well, why not? As a fighter, J-7s are no longer good for anything, if the resource is not completely exhausted, they will still serve.
    The US F-16 is also being converted into unmanned aerial vehicles.
    1. +1
      July 13 2021
      China intends to use the tactics of the Azerbaijani military in Karabakh
      Will they buy bayraktars from the Turks? belay laughing joke wink .
      1. 0
        July 13 2021
        it is also necessary to annex the outskirts of the east and Novorossia on the sly. simultaneously with Taiwan.
  2. +2
    July 13 2021
    I think that many countries are analyzing the past conflict. China may well use such tactics. And Taiwan, in turn, is looking for ways to counter it. I have no doubt that the Russian military is also carrying out its analysis.
    1. 0
      July 13 2021
      Quote: volodimer
      I think that many countries are analyzing the past conflict. China may well use such tactics. And Taiwan, in turn, is looking for ways to counter it. I have no doubt that the Russian military is also carrying out its analysis.

      Given India's "warm" relationship with China, this article is more like throwing brushwood into a dying fire.
      Unlike Muslim Azerbaijan, which waged a war with Christian Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh, China against Taiwanese Chinese, in fact co-religionists and half-brothers, is not going to fight and was not going to fight, but it intends to defend it from the United States, NATO and Japan with all its might.
      Perhaps these maneuvers are a warning specifically for the "defenders of liberal values" because of the big puddle, and not for Taiwan, as the Indians are trying to draw.
      1. 0
        July 13 2021
        Maybe you're right. Things are not easy for China and Taiwan, but for the Indians, this situation is beneficial.
        Well, on the topic of tactics: the Indians also have enough of the same MiG-21x. But I can't believe that they will be able to implement it. They have too much "gypsy".
        1. 0
          July 13 2021
          Quote: volodimer
          Maybe you're right. Things are not easy for China and Taiwan, but for the Indians, this situation is beneficial.
          Well, on the topic of tactics: the Indians also have enough of the same MiG-21x. But I can't believe that they will be able to implement it. They have too much "gypsy".

          The Chinese are not feeble-minded and perfectly see how the United States and its satellites behave in the vastness of the world and what is the reaction to their actions during the aggression in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yugoslavia and other countries of the world.
          The UN, the OPCW, the international criminal court, the world media and other "progressive" crowd in all these cases are either silent or talk nonsense about the protection of the "humiliated and insulted."
          So, start China military action with Taiwan, the whole world will go deaf from the screams and snot of the UN, OPCW, international human rights organizations, world media and other "liberal" public. He needs it.
          1. -3
            July 13 2021
            Quote: credo
            So, start China military action with Taiwan, the whole world will go deaf from the screams and snot of the UN, OPCW, international human rights organizations, world media and other "liberal" public. He needs it.

            Well, China usually does not pay attention to these screams and, most importantly, they do not have a fifth column of liberdons (in the 89th they were transferred by tanks and shot)
            China is waiting and waiting for the right moment. This is their territory and they have every right .. I think everything will end quickly!
            1. +1
              July 13 2021
              I also don't think China cares about
              screams and snot of the UN, OPCW, international human rights organizations, world media and other "liberal" public
              ... When China considers that "the fruit is ripe", it will take it. Will this be done peacefully or by military means, this is the second question. This will be done so that jackals can bark, but no one lifts a finger to stick with Taiwan. Well, as for the sanctions, here is the example of Hong Kong. As the character of Galygin said: "Shit!"
    2. 0
      July 13 2021
      You will be very surprised, but it has already been completed :)
      1. 0
        July 13 2021
        Quote: V.A. Sh.
        You will be very surprised, but it has already been completed :)

        "carried out"It sounds too complete. Until 100% counteraction methods are found, tested and tested in real conditions, the analysis will be performed over and over again taking into account different inputs. Let's not rush to make statements. hi The primary analysis, of course, has already been done, but how we can use this experience, it will be repeatedly worked out.
  3. +3
    July 13 2021
    In the event of the outbreak of hostilities, in identifying Taiwan's air defense, China intends to use the tactics of the Azerbaijani military in Karabakh.

    And nothing that the Americans used this very tactic back in the sixties in Vietnam, then the Jews in the war with the Arabs, and then everything and everywhere.
    Or it passed by the Indians, and they made a discovery for themselves.
  4. +2
    July 13 2021
    To "score" the enemy's air defense with false targets, whatever they may be, is a tactic that has been tested for a long time. I think that you can still hang on the old fighters with NURSs so that they can fire a salvo when entering the air defense zone of Taiwan. For added fun. In general, you can roll out a couple of hundred MLRSs ashore and bang with full packages. Here any air defense will grunt from the strain.
    1. +5
      July 13 2021
      It is impossible to score with SUCH false targets of air defense - SUCH targets will not be enough, these are not dipole reflectors. Here the task is to open the air defense
      1. +3
        July 13 2021
        They open up focal air defense, as in Karabakh. Solid, like in Taiwan, why open it? It is already there. It needs to be "hammered" in order to discharge the air defense missile system and strike with URs in the "window" of reloading.
        1. +1
          July 13 2021
          Well, how can you beat him with rather expensive and few fighters, albeit old ones? There are not many of them - no more than the country's air force needed as combat not so long ago. How many targets does a modern radar station follow? And you open the launcher and the radar - and it will not be continuous after the defeat, KVM. Although I am not an aviator, there will be one principle, as in reconnaissance in force or provocative shelling. Shot - left, somewhere from the far hill they look who woke up, and in response a boom flies there
          1. +3
            July 13 2021
            Quote: Cowbra
            Well, how can you beat him with rather expensive and few fighters, albeit old ones?

            If you look closely at the photo, you can see the pylons, and on them PTBs and missiles.
            Instead of them, anti-radar missiles, various electronic warfare (P) systems, false targets are easily put. And lo and behold, instead of 1 aircraft, 5-9 targets or a cloud of interference or nothing at all will appear on the radar screen after the antennas are hit.
            1. -1
              July 13 2021
              But do not you think that a radio-controlled flyer, an old one, aimed at a developed air defense system, has a one-way road, that is, IT IS NOT HIM to land with a parachute! Just an illustration of what a flyer was converted into a drone ...
              1. -1
                July 13 2021
                Quote: Cowbra
                to a developed air defense - has a one-way road

                Sure. Like a fighter with a pilot. There will be losses in any case. This is the point, to lose a relatively cheap aircraft without the death of the pilot, and not a super-expensive generation 4-5 fighter together with a biorobot, which took 25-45 years to produce.
          2. 0
            July 13 2021
            I meant to "hammer" the air defense with a salvo launch of RZSO missiles.
  5. +2
    July 13 2021
    These were Chengdu J-7 fighters. They began to be produced back in the 60s of the last century and have long been removed from service.
    In the beginning, we learn the materiel. The production of the aircraft ended in 2017, so for example the J-7G - entered service with the PRC Air Force in 2004.
  6. 0
    July 13 2021
    An interesting feature of these aircraft is that on radar, they are very similar to the American F-16, which are in service with the Taiwanese Air Force.

    What is it like? Have radars already learned to resolve the appearance of an aircraft?
    1. 0
      July 13 2021
      Sure. The computer decodes the radar picture and converts it into a video image
      indicating the type of aircraft (or even the type of tank, if the radar is scanning the ground).
      1. +1
        July 14 2021
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The computer decodes the radar image and converts it into a video image
        indicating the type of aircraft (or even the type of tank, if the radar is scanning the ground).

        Cool. Just a couple of months ago, this was only possible in games.
  7. -4
    July 13 2021
    "According to the Indian edition of the EurAsian Times" ... Smart what. It turns out that the Chinese are using the experience of Azerbaijan. After all, they themselves, with their meager Chinese mind, could not think of anything like that!
  8. sen
    -1
    July 13 2021
    Military sources for the South China Morning Post claim that some of the decommissioned J-7s have been converted into UAVs.

    Azerbaijanis use An-2 in "unmanned" mode. The steering wheel of the aircraft is secured with belts, and the pilot himself makes a parachute jump at a safe distance from the place of hostilities.
    1. sen
      +2
      July 14 2021
      It was argued that the pilots on board the aircraft at such moments were absent, and their control was carried out remotely, by analogy with the Bayraktar TB2 attack operational-tactical drones.
      However, this information was denied by military experts of the Turkish edition of Clash Report. As journalists say, during takeoff, there were always pilots in the cockpit of An-2 aircraft. After they put the military vehicles on the course, they immediately left them by parachute. Opponents opened fire on air targets, thereby giving away their location. After that, drones came into play, which destroyed the positions of the Armenian air defense systems.
      https://actualnews.org/exclusive/396552-clash-report-vyjavljavshie-armjanskie-sistemy-pvo-azerbajdzhanskie-samolety-an-2-byli-pilotiruemymi.html
  9. sen
    +2
    July 13 2021
    That tactic is old. Previously, a demonstration group at a safe distance was used as a provocateur, and attack aircraft "sneaked up" to the target at low altitudes.
  10. +2
    July 13 2021
    Last fall, in the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh, the Azerbaijani army used An-2 unmanned aerial vehicles, nicknamed "cornmen", to identify the location of Armenian air defense systems with their help. The drones were mistaken for combat aircraft and shot down

    Any radar operator can distinguish An-2 from a combat aircraft. Apparently the Armenians had very bad air defense. At the same time, almost everyone has cheap unmanned targets for air defense training. They mimic the signature of a combat aircraft fairly accurately.
    1. +1
      July 13 2021
      Quote: riwas
      Any radar operator will distinguish An-2 from a combat aircraft.

      Of course it will. Only here An-2 carried bombs, which were dropped on the positions of the Armenians. Accordingly, it had to be shot down like a light bomber.
      1. sen
        +1
        July 13 2021
        Only here An-2 carried bombs

        For the destruction of Armenians, Azerbaijan mainly used Bayraktar and loitering ammunition.
        1. +2
          July 13 2021
          Of course not :) As the artillery was the main means of "destruction" and remained. The spikes were taken out by tanks. UAVs are mainly reconnaissance, air defense destruction and other priority targets. There are not so many of these funds.

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