Combat ships. Cruisers. When unlucky with fate in full

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The entire short life of ships of this class can be characterized by one term “unlucky”. And the main thing that these ships were unlucky for was that Japan went to war. And these cruisers, which, in general, were not cruisers, were forced to take on cruising duties. Well, what came of it - we'll see.

Usually, light cruisers in Japan were named after the rivers of the Land of the Rising Sun. But this series, apparently to emphasize the difference, was named after the most famous Shinto temples in the country.



The Katori Temple was located on the Tone River in Chiba Prefecture, the Kashima Temple in Ibaraki Prefecture, the Kasii-no-miya Temple in Fukuoka Prefecture. The unofficial name of the fourth unfinished cruiser was in honor of the Kashinara temple on Mount Unebi.

In general, the Katori-class cruisers were not intended to be used as combat ships, primarily because they were built as training ships. Therefore, the weapons on them were very weak, there was practically no booking, the power plant was mixed, that is, it consisted of steam boilers and turbines, along with which ordinary diesel engines existed. This made it possible to train specialists in various fields.

Well, the conditions for placing the crew on these ships were very different from ordinary warships. While the average Nagara-class light cruiser carried a crew of 430-450, the Katori had a crew of 315 and 350-375 cadets. This amount had to be placed with all the outgoing consequences. This means that armor, weapons, speed - everything had to be sacrificed for the placement of the second crew on the ships.

However, there was a real possibility of using ships in wartime as staff. For this purpose, they were best suited, because Japanese naval officers were not spoiled by everyday life and the premises planned for future officers in civilian life were quite suitable for real officers in wartime. Moreover, the ships were equipped with various training classes that could be used for a variety of purposes.

Combat ships. Cruisers. When unlucky with fate in full

The result is interesting ships. A displacement like a light cruiser, 5800 tons, the maximum speed of a turtle of those times, 18 knots, but the premises and household services could well accommodate and use 650-700 people on board.

And immediately after the launch of "Katori", the Naval General Staff, where they also appreciated everything perfectly, decided to convert the ship into a floating headquarters / flagship of the Sixth fleet... "Kasii" was being completed according to a modified project, and "Kasim" was converted into a floating headquarters after the outbreak of the war.

What were these ships?

dimensions... Length 133,5 m, maximum width 15,95 m, draft 5,8 m.

The hull was divided by waterproof superstructures into nine compartments. The double bottom was available only in the areas of the engine and boiler rooms and was used as fuel tanks.

Reservation

The ship's reservation was conditional. The main protection of the cruisers was an armored deck with a thickness of 51,4 mm. There were no vertical armor belt and anti-torpedo bulkheads, that is, in fact, "Katori" could be safely called armored cruisers.

The main caliber guns had standard armor shields 20 mm thick, the shields of the air defense guns had a thickness of 10 mm. The armor of the elevators for the ammunition supply was 16 mm, the artillery cellars were armored with sheets of 32 mm thick.

In fact, the armor was worse than that of some destroyers. But these ships, I repeat, were not planned to be used in hostilities.


Power plant and driving performance


The power plant was very peculiar. Kampon installed two Kanpon # 10 mod.22 four-stroke, 10-cylinder diesel engines and two Kampon steam turbines with top of Kansei Hoanbu steam boilers each. Turbines and diesel engines were connected through a hydraulic transmission and each pair worked on its own shaft with a propeller.

The total fuel supply was 600 tons, the normal one was 380 tons of oil and 160 tons of diesel fuel. The design cruising range at a speed of 12 knots is 7000 nautical miles.

The maximum speed of 18 knots was achieved with turbines at 280 rpm and a power of 8000 hp. or with the combined use of diesels (3600 hp) and turbines (4400 hp). The economical course could be carried out by turbines (13 knots, 200 rpm, 2500 HP) or diesel engines (12 knots, 180 rpm, 2000 HP).

Crew and habitability


The crew of the ships, in addition to the main crew, was supposed to include 375 cadets - 200 future combat officers and navigators, 100 mechanics, 50 officers of the financial unit, 25 medics. Later, the number of cadets on board was reduced to 275 people. They were supplemented by 315 officers and crew members of the cruiser, and the total number was 590 people.

The living conditions of the crew of the training cruisers of the Katori class, as well as the cadets stationed on them, far exceeded the usual living conditions for the Japanese fleet. Officers, cadets and lower ranks were accommodated separately, on the ships attention was paid to creating rooms for lectures for cadets, the ships had well-equipped medical rooms.

weaponry


Despite the fact that the ships were training, they had weapons. The main caliber of the Katori-class cruisers consisted of four 140-mm guns.


The guns, as on the cruiser "Yubari", were installed in two-gun turrets. One tower installation was located at the bow of the ship, the second at the stern.

The supply of shells from the cellars to the upper deck was carried out by two chain hoists, and up to the guns manually on rail hoists. The ammunition capacity of the guns on the cruisers was 90 rounds per barrel.

Auxiliary / anti-aircraft artillery



Initially, according to the project, one 127-mm two-gun mount in the stern of the ship was used as a universal artillery. Subsequently, torpedo tubes were removed on "Kasim" and "Kasia" and two more such installations were installed in their places.

The A1 Mod 1 setup was quite modern. The rotation was carried out by electric motors (there was also a manual emergency drive), the gun was loaded semi-automatically: when fired, the springs of the rammer were compressed by the recoil force, and the loader just had to put the next cartridge into the tray and press the lever that released the springs. The guns could be loaded at any elevation angle.


Ammunition was 150 rounds per barrel. High-explosive fragmentation and incendiary fragmentation shells were used.

The second air defense system was the Type 25 96-mm automatic guns.


Each ship carried two twin mounts of these guns. Naturally, in the process of modernization, the number of barrels increased and eventually reached 38 in various versions - one-, two- and three-barreled.

Single machine guns were guided and controlled manually. The paired and triple units had an electric drive (but it was also possible in manual mode), the built units had remote control from the directors "type 95". The calculations only had to press the trigger and change the clips.

The submachine guns were fed from 15-shell carob-type clips. The stock of cartridges was 2 per barrel.


Four types of shells were used: armor-piercing, high-explosive fragmentation, incendiary and tracer. Every 4th or 5th round in a high-explosive or incendiary clip was a tracer.

The third and last air defense system (only for Kasia) was the eight Type 1944 heavy machine guns installed during the modernization of 93, that is, the Hotchkiss Model 1929.


In general, rather, a step of despair, because the benefits of this weapons in 1944 was highly questionable.

Mine torpedo armament

The cruisers were equipped with 533-mm torpedo tubes.


Two twin-tube torpedo tubes onboard with 8 torpedoes ammunition. It must be said that, unlike numerous colleagues, the Katori cruiser never used their torpedo tubes. And as soon as the modernization began, they preferred to part with them in favor of strengthening the air defense.

On the other hand, why does the command ship, which is in the rear, need an offensive weapon?

Anti-submarine and anti-mine weapons

According to the project, the cruisers did not carry anti-submarine weapons at all. But over time, both "Kasii" and "Kasim" were re-equipped into PLO ships. "Kasii" in 1944, "Kasima" in 1945.

At the stern of each cruiser, two bomb throwers for 18 depth charges and four bomb throwers with racks for 64 bombs were placed. And on "Kasia" there were eight bombers. The ammunition capacity was 142 depth charges.

Aviation Armament

Each cruiser had a Kure Type 2 Model 5 powder catapult. At first, the ships used Mitsubishi F1M seaplanes, then it was replaced by the Nakajima A6M2-N.


Electronic and sonar weapons

Initially, the cruisers were "clean" in this regard. There was no modern equipment on them. But over time, radars have taken root even in such a fleet as the Japanese. The Americans have convincingly proved that it is possible to fight not only with torpedoes at night.

Therefore, the ships registered:
- hydrophone Type 93 Mod 2;
- active acoustic station Type 93 Mod 3;
- Radar detection of air targets Type 21 Mod 2;
- Radar detection of surface targets Type 22 Mod 4;
- two infrared searchlights Type 2;

In general, it is quite a decent set for ships of even the first line.

Combat service



"Katori"


Before the start of the war, the cruiser managed to make one training campaign, where she headed a training squadron in Yokosuka.

At the beginning of the war, it was based on Kwajalein. In February 1942, he received numerous damage from American aircraft from the aircraft carrier "Enterprise" and was sent to repair and strengthen the air defense.

After repairs, he returned to Kwajalein and became the flagship of the 6th fleet. The deployment of the fleet headquarters did not prevent them from taking part in the transfer of people and goods to Roy Island.

During 1942-43 he was based on Truk and Kwajalein, where he played the role of the command ship of the 6th fleet.

17.02.1944/60/XNUMX, "Katori" went to sea, heading for Japan. While XNUMX miles north of Truk Atoll, it was attacked by American aircraft. The torpedo hit the forward engine compartment, causing a fire and flooding of the compartment.


The crew coped with the damage and, accompanied by the destroyer Novaki, went back to the base on Truk Island. However, American pilots passed information about Katori to “who should” and 40 miles from Truk Katori was intercepted by a detachment of American ships consisting of the heavy cruisers Indianapolis and New Orleans and the destroyers Bradford and Barnes.

The Americans, using their radars, very accurately went to the damaged Katori and simply riddled it with 152-mm and 127-mm shells. The Novaki set up a smokescreen and fled.

Considering that the enemy had 140 127-mm and 18 203-mm barrels against the four 26-mm and two 127-mm guns of the Japanese ship, the result of the battle was quite predictable: after half an hour, the Katori, torn apart by American shells, sank to the bottom.

Expected for a ship that has no armor at all. Almost the entire crew was killed.

"Kasii"


From the beginning of his service, from July 1941, he was first the flagship of the Southern Expeditionary Fleet, and then came under the jurisdiction of Admiral Ozawa, who commanded the Malay Task Force.

In December 1941, the cruiser took part in convoy operations and provided landings at Prachuap, Chumphon, Ban Dan and Nagon.

In 1942 he took part in the transfer of troops to Singora, Bangkok, took part in the occupation of the Paracel Islands, Palembangu, and northern Sumatra.

In total, he sailed from Singapore to Rangoon 134 ships with troops and equipment.

In 1943 she became the flagship of Admiral Okawaichi. On inspection trips, he visited Merguy, Rangoon, Blair, Sabang, Penang.

He was involved in the patrol service, in this service he patrolled various water areas, conducted convoys to the Andaman Islands. During one of these trips to Sabang, in August 1943 he received a torpedo from the British submarine "Trident", but remained afloat and managed to reach the base on his own.

After repairs, he lost the status of the flagship of the Southern Expeditionary Fleet and until the end of 1943 was engaged in escorting convoys to Blair Island and the Nicobar Islands.

At the beginning of 1944, she was recalled to the metropolis and, after being repaired at Sasebo, the Kasii was transferred to the jurisdiction of the Naval Academy. True, after three months the cruiser was taken back from the academy and converted into an PLO ship.


In April 1944, the torpedo tubes were dismantled, the number of 127-mm guns was increased to six and the number of 4-mm anti-aircraft guns to twenty (3 x 8; 2 x 25), two bomb throwers (each for 18 depth charges) and four bomb throwers were placed at the stern. with racks for 64 depth charges, installed hydrophone type 93 mod. 2, active acoustic station type 93 mod. 3, radar type 21 mod. 2.

After the modernization of the Kasia, it was reclassified into a command ship-PLO and included in the 1st Escort Division.

Until the end of 1944, "Kasii" was engaged in escorting convoys from Moi to Singapore and back.

12.01.1945/XNUMX/XNUMX "Kasii" was in the convoy off the coast of French Indochina, where the convoy was attacked by American carrier-based aircraft from the American aircraft carriers "Essex", "Ticonderoga", "Langley" and "San Jacinto".

A torpedo hit the starboard side of the cruiser. The ship abruptly dropped speed, and taking advantage of this, the Americans hit two bombs in the stern. The explosions caused the detonation of depth charges on the racks, and that was the end of the Kasia. After 15 minutes, the cruiser with a torn stern disappeared under water.




25 people from the entire crew were saved. Both the crew and the landing party were killed, a total of 621 people.

"Kasima"


This cruiser has served the longest as a training ship. For half a year. And then he was sent to Truk, where he was busy delivering army supplies to Saipan.

On December 1, 1941, the cruiser becomes the flagship of the 4th fleet. In 1942 he participated in the occupation of Rabaul and Kavieng, in the capture of Port Moresby.

Further, "Kasima" is based on Truk, making inspection trips with the command of the fleet.

In 1943 he was transferred to Kwajalein, from where he was engaged in the transfer of goods to Truk. At the end of 1943, "Kasima" loses the status of the flagship of the 4th fleet and goes to the disposal of the Naval Academy. Throughout 1944, the ship has been training crews.

In the second half of 1944, Kashima participated four times in escorting special-purpose convoys from Shimonoseki to Okinawa, once to Formosa and once to Keelung.

From December 1944 to January 1945, another repair of the body and mechanisms is underway in Kure "Kasima". The torpedo tubes are being dismantled, four 127-mm guns are added, the number of 25-mm anti-aircraft guns is brought to 30, bomb throwers and bomb releasers are being installed. Added electronic and hydroacoustic equipment like the "Kasia".


On January 1, 1945, the cruiser was included in the Escort Squadron No. 102 of the First Escort Fleet.

Until mid-February, "Kashima" conducts military exercises in the Inland Sea of ​​Japan. Then, as part of the next convoy, the cruiser goes to Shanghai. In July 1945, Kashima arrived in Maizuru, where she became the flagship of the First Escort Fleet. Until the end of the war, the ship served as a floating headquarters, being distracted by anti-submarine searches in the basing area.

After the end of the war, "Kasima" was completely disarmed and turned into a transport.


"Kasima" in the role of transport

From December 1945 to December 1946, the ship transported immigrants from Singapore to Nagasaki. Immediately after the end of this mission, at the beginning of 1947, the Kashima was dismantled for metal in the same place, in Nagasaki.

What can be said about the Katori-class cruisers. This is an interesting project, not typical for the Japanese Imperial Navy. As training ships "Katori" were very promising, but the outbreak of war made training ships unnecessary.

As command ships, these slow-moving and unarmored ships proved to be no less useful than normal cruisers. As educational, they were simply out of luck.
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  1. +2
    14 July 2021 05: 04
    The entire short life of ships of this class can be characterized by one term "unlucky"

    In this war, battleships and heavy cruisers were also "unlucky". They stood in the bases, devouring resources or were sunk by aircraft and submarines ... But the destroyers are real hard workers of war! And, perhaps, also aircraft carriers!
    1. +14
      14 July 2021 05: 32
      But destroyers are real hard workers of war! And, perhaps, also aircraft carriers!
      Submarines of all fleets of all countries are worth noting. Allied submarines destroyed during the war about 1,5 thousand transports of the Axis powers with a total tonnage of about 5.7 million tons out of 10.3 million tons lost by the latter as a result of the actions of all the armed forces of the allies. All the submarines of the warring states (not including the USSR) sunk about 4330 transports with a total tonnage of about 22,1 million tons, or about 68,1% of the tonnage of ships sunk by all the forces of the warring states. Aviation accounted for only about 13%, and submarines were quite successful against warships. They destroyed a total of 149 Allied ships and 248 Axis ships.
    2. +5
      14 July 2021 10: 05
      Quote: Xlor
      In this war, battleships and heavy cruisers were also "unlucky". They stood in the bases, devouring resources or were sunk by aircraft and submarines ...

      Who had the KRT in the bases? Is that the Italians - after the start of the fuel crisis. And all the rest of the KRT fought from start to finish.
      1. +2
        14 July 2021 10: 51
        In the United States, in the very first year of the war, they abandoned the construction of battleships and cruisers in favor of aircraft carriers and air defense cruisers. In Japan, they looked at their opponents with envy, however, due to lack of resources, they could no longer do this ...
        1. +9
          14 July 2021 14: 32
          Quote: Xlor
          In the United States, in the very first year of the war, they abandoned the construction of battleships and cruisers in favor of aircraft carriers and air defense cruisers.

          Are you serious? And how did Baltimore and Des Moines appear then? I'm not talking about the Clevelands.
          And what air defense missile systems were built in the United States? “Atlanta” can not offer - these are “scouts”, the heirs of “Omah”. Their air defense was frankly bad - due to the small number of KDP for 5 "/ 38.
  2. +1
    14 July 2021 05: 05
    Thanks for the article, of course, but this one:
    and it was enough for the loader to put the next cartridge into the tray
    in relation to the 127 mm gun, it looks strange.
    1. +7
      14 July 2021 08: 18
      The Japanese feature film "Yamato" shows the work of 127mm guns and crew hi
      1. 0
        15 July 2021 17: 13
        Yes, great movie. The harsh truth of naval samurai life.
        1. -1
          15 July 2021 17: 35
          I personally didn't like it very much. the pathos is off scale. I understand that this is a Japanese style - more emotions on the screen)) Yes, and there were a lot of inaccuracies ((((The Yamato did not use the main caliber for the aircraft, the 25mm assault rifles were controlled by the "directors" and not manually .. well, there is everyone)) Well this is purely MY nitpicking))
  3. +7
    14 July 2021 05: 12
    This is an interesting project
    Any ship has its own destiny ...
    1. +8
      14 July 2021 05: 37
      Everything is like with people - they are born, live, die .. It was not for nothing that sailors of all countries and times inspired their ships and treated them with a special feeling, not like a pile of wood or iron.
      1. +6
        14 July 2021 05: 39
        Quote: SERGE ant
        treated them with special feeling

        That's for sure ! hi
  4. +1
    14 July 2021 05: 37
    With what maximum speed they were just targets, the question of their drowning was a matter of time ...
  5. +10
    14 July 2021 05: 52
    Quote: SERGE ANT
    Submarines of all fleets of all countries are worth noting

    Well, this "weapon of the poor", in my opinion, generally endured the entire naval war on her shoulders
  6. +6
    14 July 2021 05: 54
    "In fact, the booking was worse than that of some destroyers."
    I'm embarrassed to ask! Which destroyers had the best booking?
  7. +4
    14 July 2021 06: 00
    Quote: Grossvater

    I'm embarrassed to ask! Which destroyers had the best booking?

    Well, everyone had bulletproof booking ...
  8. +3
    14 July 2021 06: 37
    Not in the subject, but interesting:
    Immediately after the end of this mission, at the beginning of 1947, the Kashima was dismantled for metal in the same place, in Nagasaki.

    On the question of the "horror" of nuclear weapons. As "everyone knows" in 1945 the Americans used a bomb and Nagasaki was "destroyed". But after a year and a half, people live in it, enterprises work, ships are dismantled? What about radiation? They say that the nuclear devil is not so terrible as he is painted.
    1. +5
      14 July 2021 11: 20
      I remember that while serving in the SA, the standard for tank columns was 30 minutes after the explosion - it was considered normal to walk through the epicenter in half an hour. In Chernobyl, there is a different radiation and different terms.

      Due to (and fortunately!) The lack of reliable research in practice of the consequences of multiple nuclear reactions, we can only hope that the world of dystopias will not come in reality. God forbid ...
    2. +2
      14 July 2021 14: 57
      Quote: Understanding
      What about radiation? They say that the nuclear devil is not so terrible as he is painted.

      What about radiation? In the 40s, they did not pay attention to her even in the USA.
      Here are American sailors manually deactivating "Prince Eugen" at the "Crossroads".

      I'm not talking about foot marches near the epicenter and the same manual decontamination of ground vehicles after tests in Nevada in the 50s ...
    3. 0
      15 July 2021 22: 01
      Quote: Understanding
      What about radiation?

      The radiation is different. The half-life of plutonium is several orders of magnitude shorter; here Hiroshima found itself in a more difficult position. The movement of radioactive isotopes across the globe with dust, precipitation, that is, flew away. Soil reclamation. And, by the way, the distance from the epicenter and the terrain.
  9. +4
    14 July 2021 06: 44
    The unofficial name of the fourth unfinished cruiser was in honor of the Kashinara temple on Mount Unebi

    As soon as they do not misinterpret the name of the Kashihara-jingu temple - Kasihara - jingu. Wikipedia wrote "casywara".
  10. +10
    14 July 2021 06: 52
    The hull was divided by waterproof superstructures into nine compartments.

    Well, if superstructures divide the hull into compartments, what is the function, according to the author, of the bulkheads?
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  12. +4
    14 July 2021 07: 21
    The main protection of the cruisers was an armored deck with a thickness of 51,4 mm.

    It is interesting from what sources the author obtained this information, since all available, including Japanese, indicate that there was no armor and no armored deck on the Katori-class cruisers.
    1. +7
      14 July 2021 08: 02
      You know, it also became interesting. Here's what I found: Yu.V. Apalkov. Combat ships of the Japanese fleet. Cruisers. 10.1918 - 1945 Directory.
      ..Ships of this type did not have great combat value and were classified as CR for a number of design features - the presence of an additional deck (except for the upper one) throughout the hull ... Armored deck: 51,4 mm, ammunition supply elevators: 16 mm, ammunition storage : 32 mm, shields of 140 mm guns: 20 mm.
      And about the watertight superstructures, even to me, far from the fleet and ships, who only saw it from afar)) Probably, the author got such a source, because. it doesn't look like translation difficulties: add-on - superstructure. bulkhead - bulkhead.
      1. +6
        14 July 2021 08: 58
        You know, it also became interesting. Here's what I found: Yu.V. Apalkov. Combat ships of the Japanese fleet. Cruisers. 10.1918 - 1945 Directory.

        The most interesting thing is that in the sources that Apalkov refers to, there is no data on the availability of armor on Katori-class cruisers.
  13. +5
    14 July 2021 10: 27
    Tell me, is the spelling in VO now irrelevant? I read 3 articles, all have errors. Which school did you recruit editors from?
  14. +6
    14 July 2021 11: 03
    The Americans, using their radars, very accurately went to the damaged Katori and simply riddled it with 152-mm and 127-mm shells. The Novaki set up a smokescreen and fled.

    Considering that the enemy had 140 127-mm and 18 203-mm barrels against the four 26-mm and two 127-mm guns of the Japanese ship, the result of the battle was quite predictable: after half an hour, the Katori, torn apart by American shells, sank to the bottom.

    Apparently, the Americans did not hit the 203-mm, but they threw 152-mm with their hands. request
    1. +2
      14 July 2021 15: 09
      Quote: AlexTss
      Apparently, the Americans did not hit the 203-mm, but they threw 152-mm with their hands.

      And most importantly, the 406-mm shells and the Iowa that fired them disappeared somewhere. smile
      Group "Katori" was intercepted by "Tuffy" 50.9 - 2 LC, 2 CMT, 2 EM. Iowa worked directly on KRL.
      1. +1
        14 July 2021 17: 55
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Iowa worked directly on KRL.

        But Lacroix "Katori" credited the KRT ...
        1. 0
          14 July 2021 18: 59
          Quote: Macsen_Wledig
          But Lacroix "Katori" credited the KRT ...

          Well, yes, some write about "Iowa", others about KRT.
          Interestingly, and at whom then "Iowa" fired 46 16 "shells? And where did her universal caliber shoot?
          History.navy.mil provides a combination of both versions of the battle: Spruence actually ordered the attack on Cattori with only two MCTs (Minneapolis and New Orleans) and two EMs (Bradford (DD-545) and Burns (DD-588)). But after the EMs missed the Japanese CD with all torpedoes, the unplanned Iowa joined the battle.
          It is also mentioned there. that the Japanese EM Maikaze, accompanying the KRL, fired torpedoes at the American LK. who were saved only by the warning from the planes. Even so, NJ got close enough with the torpedoes, which displeased Spruance.
          That would have been embarrassing.
  15. +3
    14 July 2021 11: 19
    I do not understand at all why her Japan, with her limited resources, had these under-cruisers. Outdated ships could be used to train l / s. And spend this money on the construction of a pair of normal cruisers like "Agano" or a dozen "Kagero".
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  17. +2
    14 July 2021 15: 03
    However, American pilots transmitted information about Katori to “who should” and 40 miles from Truk Katori was intercepted by a detachment of American ships consisting of the heavy cruisers Indianapolis and New Orleans and the destroyers Bradford and Barnes.

    First, the squad included the Minneapolis and New Orleans MCTs.
    Secondly, where did the LK "New Jersey" and "Iowa", which were part of the same detachment, go?

    "Katori" sank exactly "Iowa" - the consumption of 46 shells 406-mm (8 volleys) and 124 shells 127-mm.
  18. -2
    14 July 2021 16: 39
    Quote: Alexey RA
    And how did Baltimore and Des Moines appear then? I'm not talking about the Clevelands.

    All this was still under construction by inertia - it was difficult to abandon the established dogmas. In addition, very few of them were built, in comparison with destroyers, which were counted in three-digit numbers. Something about 150 aircraft carriers were built, and this is ten times more than all these Des Moines and Baltimore you mentioned ... I could be wrong, but only the British built about 70 aircraft carriers according to lend lease ( Ch. image of the escorts). It is quite obvious that the number of ships built speaks volumes about what was needed for the war at sea and what was not ...
    Something like this ...
    PS The cavalry regiments were contained after it became clear that the cavalry would no longer decide the outcome of the war. However, they were. This is what I mean inertia in military doctrines ...
    PS 2. During the war, Hitler also made a wise decision - to cut all these battleships with cruisers into metal, however, Raeder and Dönitz dissuaded him. There were also dogmatists ...
    1. +6
      14 July 2021 18: 41
      Quote: Xlor
      All this was still being built by inertia - it was difficult to abandon the established dogmas.

      Was it under construction? Design The Des Moines was launched in 1943. The working draft was approved at the beginning of 1944. What is the inertia - the fleet abandoned the Montan and two Iows, but still wanted the KRT.
      Quote: Xlor
      In addition, very few of them were built, in comparison with destroyers, which were counted in three-digit numbers.

      Let's compare with the TKA - even more of them were built. smile
      EM is a consumable material of war, and there should be a lot of them. It is with us, who during the war years did not build anything larger than the TSC for the warring fleets, the EM had to be protected like the apple of our eye.
      Quote: Xlor
      Some 150 aircraft carriers were built alone, which is ten times more than all those Des Moines and Baltimore you mentioned ...

      17 Essexes and 9 Independences were built.
      The remaining 77 AB are escort men in the hulls of bulk carriers and tankers. Unfortunately, this method was not suitable for MCT. smile
      Quote: Xlor
      I may be wrong, but only the British built about 70 aircraft carriers according to the lend lease (chiefly, the image of the escorts).

      38 escort ABs. And that's all.
      Quote: Xlor
      PS The cavalry regiments were contained after it became clear that the cavalry would no longer decide the outcome of the war. However, they were.

      Motorized infantry for the poor. Since it is not possible to give 100-120 hp to the squad, then we will give each soldier 2 hp. All the same, the APC in the pre-war and military USSR is not visible in the foreseeable future. smile
      Quote: Xlor
      During the war, Hitler also made a wise decision - to cut all these battleships with cruisers into metal,

      Limey and ours would be only too happy. The British would have immediately released LK and MRT for the Mediterranean and, in part, the Indian Ocean. And our army would not have to curtail the offensive and even retreat in the coastal areas under fire from 28-cm and 20,3-cm Panzerschiff and MRT guns.
  19. +1
    14 July 2021 19: 17
    Quote: Alexey RA
    Was it under construction? Design "Des Moines" was started in 1943. The working draft was approved at the beginning of 1944. What is the inertia?

    I will quote myself to my beloved one more time:

    All this was still being built by inertia - it was difficult to abandon the established dogmas

    By the way, after the war, the French built a cruiser with artillery weapons. It seems it was called "Colbert". Another manifestation of dogmatic thinking ...
    1. 0
      14 July 2021 22: 14
      And the USSR zababahala a whole series of artillery cruisers, I do not know what kind of thinking there was, but the cruisers were built.
    2. +4
      15 July 2021 10: 26
      Quote: Xlor
      Quote: Alexey RA
      Was it under construction? Design "Des Moines" was started in 1943. The working draft was approved at the beginning of 1944. What is the inertia?

      I will quote myself to my beloved one more time:
      All this was still being built by inertia - it was difficult to abandon the established dogmas


      This is not inertia, but the experience of war.
      The cruisers fought until the end of the war - both in the anti-ship role, and as an AV escort, and as support and cover for the landing. There are always places where it is impossible to send AV (everyone is busy), it is a pity to send LK, but KR is just right.
  20. +1
    15 July 2021 07: 39
    "it was enough to put the next cartridge in the tray."
    "Patron" refers to small arms.
    In artillery, the terms "projectile" or "shot" are used.
    Decide for yourself.
    Moreover, so much the article contains both terms.
  21. 0
    15 July 2021 11: 19
    Quote: Alexey RA
    This is not inertia, but the experience of war

    Even the experience of the First World War showed that all these rusty troughs stood in their bases, consuming huge resources. The only thing that the sailors did, because of their unwillingness to go to sea, made a revolution in Hamburg and Petrograd ... This is how they "became famous" ...
    1. 0
      15 July 2021 15: 54
      Quote: Xlor
      Even the experience of the First World War showed that all these rusty troughs stood in their bases, consuming huge resources.

      And the experience of World War II showed that "rusty troughs" can actively fight until the end of the war. "Pennsylvania" managed to grab a torpedo from Okinawa on August 12, 1945.
      EMNIP, ABC noted that his LC spends more time at sea than he himself on EM in PMV.
  22. -3
    15 July 2021 11: 22
    Quote: Alexey RA
    The cruisers fought until the end of the war

    In this case, it would be more appropriate to say they did not fight, but stood in the bases ...
    1. 0
      15 July 2021 15: 58
      Quote: Xlor
      In this case, it would be more appropriate to say they did not fight, but stood in the bases ...

      I recommend that you familiarize yourself with the TF38 / 58 ship composition in end-of-war operations.
  23. -1
    16 July 2021 13: 23
    Interesting article for me. Thank you.

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