American edition: the US Armed Forces are unable to fight an equal enemy

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The US military cannot simultaneously fight an equal enemy and defend the territory of the United States while deterring nuclear attacks. This was the result of the policy of the American authorities to reduce the number of the US Armed Forces, carried out over the past 30 years. This is the conclusion reached by the author of an article for the American edition of Defense News.

The policy of the American authorities, pursued under the slogan "we destroy in order to build," led to the inability of the country's armed forces to fight on equal terms with even one equal adversary, such as Russia or China, the author writes.



The Pentagon is trying to cover up the weakness of the American Armed Forces with loud phrases: quality over quantity, the need to make difficult choices and the willingness to take risks now in order to reduce risks in the future. However, as the author is sure, all this only weakens the US army, but does not strengthen it in any way. The hope that new technologies would help offset the reduction in the size of the armed forces did not materialize.

The author complains that the reduction in the size of the US Armed Forces for the sake of cost savings and the introduction of new technologies does not allow "on equal terms" to confront even one enemy, such as Russia or China, and even more so two at once. At the same time, he emphasizes that the United States may not have enough strength to prevent the seizure of Taiwan by China or the Baltic states by Russia.

As an example, he cites the reduction of the Air Force by 66% compared to the times of the Cold War. According to him, today the United States has the smallest stories the composition of the strategic aviation - only 140 aircraft, which does not allow for massive raids.

Failure to confront China in the Asia-Pacific region could lead to the demotion of the United States to a second-rate military power, and a successful Russian invasion of the Baltics would destroy NATO, the author writes. Therefore, the White House needs to restore the US Armed Forces to a state in which they can wage a long war, not a short one. To summarize, he demands the restoration of the strength of the US Armed Forces and an increase in the number of military equipment.
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  1. +49
    July 11 2021
    Here one thing is interesting - and on the feijoa of Russia the Baltic states ?? To feed them again at their own expense and receive hatred and contempt in return? No, let it be better to hate for their own money and not for our money .. Moreover, what's the use of these hicks? Avon - even the logistics have finally been almost transferred to their ports. And they have long ago ditched all the industry inherited from the great Soviet Union to please their Eurogean masters .. Like all the other former brothers in mind ..
    1. +20
      July 11 2021
      Yes, it looks like the purpose of this opus in Defense News is to cry into the waistcoat of the congressmen about the unenviable fate of the US Army and ask for a "small" amount of money to support the trousers of the poor military and the military-industrial complex.

      The United States, as always, has a heartache for the orphan and the poor, and no one except the United States, despite the presence of NATO, Japan and Australia, will be able to protect them from the "terrible and terrible" Russia and China.
      1. +3
        July 11 2021
        Quote: credo
        The United States, as always, has a heartache for the orphan and the poor, and no one except the United States, despite the presence of NATO, Japan and Australia, will be able to protect them from the "terrible and terrible" Russia and China.

        Or maybe the other way around? The United States understands that if something ... ... then its beloved NATO allies will scatter from them in different directions! And the United States will rake in full "for all the good"
        1. -29
          July 11 2021
          Quote: paul3390
          Here one thing is interesting - and on the feijoa of Russia the Baltic states ?? To feed them again at their own expense and receive hatred and contempt in return?

          At the expense of feeding, of course, too much:

          In terms of median wealth, Russians are 14,5 times poorer than Americans ($ 79274), 19 times poorer than Spaniards ($ 105831), and 22,6 times poorer than Japanese ($ 122980). Russians are 38901 times behind residents of Estonia (7 dollars), Albania - 2,8 times, Serbia - 2,7 times. The median household wealth in Russia is roughly the same as that of Peru and Ecuador ($ 5445 and $ 5444, respectively), slightly lagging behind Egypt ($ 6329), but ahead of Gabon ($ 4685) and Equatorial Guinea ($ 4651).

          Source: https://t.me/glazieview/290

          Further pensions (2017):

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          1. +7
            July 11 2021
            What else is an "equal" adversary?
            After the fiasco in Mogadishu, it can be concluded that the Americans generally do not know how to fight with a simply decisive and armed enemy. And by no means with "equal".
            Here's a bomb yes. They are able.
            But don't fight.
            1. +1
              July 11 2021
              To bomb from far away, an adversary that is obviously weak .... are the Yankees capable of this?
            2. -10
              July 11 2021
              Quote: Shurik70
              What else is an "equal" adversary?
              After the fiasco in Mogadishu, it can be concluded that the Americans do not know how to fight at all.

              so it was a bit of a backfill. and after the Second World War, that is, for 75 years, the Soviet \ Russian army at least once fought with an enemy of the level, well, at least Iraq? Vietnam? Korea? Yugoslavia? Panama?
              against a country with full-fledged armed forces. And not against the Papuans in carts.
              1. +2
                July 11 2021
                atalef ,, Alexander ,, and that Afghanistan is not taken into account?
                1. -6
                  July 12 2021
                  Quote: Vladislav Handriga
                  atalef ,, Alexander ,, and that Afghanistan is not taken into account?

                  Of course not - this is a counter-guerrilla war, I said about full-fledged armed forces.
                  1. +1
                    July 12 2021
                    Quote: atalef
                    Soviet \ Russian army at least once fought with an enemy of the level well, at least Iraq? Vietnam? Korea? Yugoslavia? Panama?

                    Panama? Enemy? Very funny.
                    Yugoslavia? It is difficult to call it a war, except perhaps a war in the air. Well then, Korea also counts for us.
                    And finally, how is our Afghanistan fundamentally different from their Vietnam? Yes, nothing. In both cases, there was an overwhelming technical superiority, which was leveled by the peculiarities of the terrain, which made it possible to successfully conduct partisan combat operations. Actually, the very name of the American strategy of waging that war "find and destroy" directly and unequivocally speaks of the partisan character of the DB.
                    So that leaves Iraq. And this is the classic war with the army. And the Americans performed it brilliantly, because they had a serious technical superiority, which, in the conditions of Iraq, finally played out. After so many shameful plums, they finally succeeded ... when the terrain allowed.
                    1. -3
                      July 12 2021
                      Quote: Passing by
                      Panama? Enemy? Very funny.
                      Yugoslavia? It's hard to call it a war, except perhaps a war in the air

                      Well, yes, the USSR \ Russia was like this?
                      Quote: Passing by
                      And finally, how is our Afghanistan fundamentally different from their Vietnam?

                      The Vietnamese had artillery. Air defense, tanks, air force, regular units and general command (I'm not talking about the fighting LEE XI Tsyn on the side of Vietnam) - the Afghan mujahideen did not have this anywhere
                      Quote: Passing by
                      After so many shameful plums, they finally succeeded ... when the area allowed

                      You did not answer, did you order at least something similar from the military operations of the SA?
                      1. +1
                        July 12 2021
                        Quote: atalef
                        The Vietnamese had artillery. Air defense, tanks, air force, regular units and general command (I'm not talking about the fighting LEE XI Tsyn on the side of Vietnam) - the Afghan mujahideen did not have this anywhere

                        In fact, these are all purely formal signs that do not say anything about the strength of the enemy, but if you directly insist on a formal approach, then please - the mujahideen had artillery in the form of Chinese mini MLRS and mortars, the mujahideen had military equipment, specifically pickups with machine guns , the Mujahideen had an unusually developed air defense system, in the form of DSChK, ZSU 23-2, Stinger. The mujahideen had regular units, for the "gangs" were essentially no different from the regular army, and they "served" in developed fortified areas, under a single command, such as in the Panjshir gorge, which ours did not manage to capture, even using the entire the power of the regular army.
                        So all these signs of your "real", "equal" adversary have a very indirect relationship to the essence, to the "seriousness" of the adversary. What difference does it make if the enemy has tanks or not, if you can't defeat him with the help of your tanks? On the contrary, you leave, you are powerless, in fact you lose.
                        Quote: atalef
                        You did not answer, did you order at least something similar from the military operations of the SA?

                        I replied that the SA fought as an adult in Afghanistan. This is not an anti-papal war, this is a normal war with a strong enemy. The same as in Vietnam. Only the scale is five times smaller.
                        If you directly insist on a classic, strictly according to the textbook, war, then there is no problem - there was an extremely indicative war with Georgia. Yes, the scale is much thinner, far from Iraq. But, 100% of the regular armies fought? Yes. The forces were equal? Comparable for all formal indicators. Moreover, the Soviet and American schools met. The result is an instant defeat, a clear superiority in the art of warfare.
                      2. -3
                        July 12 2021
                        Quote: Passing by
                        the mujahideen had an unusually developed air defense system, in the form of DSChK, ZSU 23-2, Stinger. The mujahideen had regular units, because the "gangs" were essentially no different from the regular army

                        if on these grounds you speak about the equality of the regular army and irrigation formations - I find it very strange
                        Quote: Passing by
                        such as in the Panjshir gorge, which ours did not manage to capture, even using the full power of the regular army.

                        you probably do not understand the specifics of the war in the mountains with the unconditional support of the local population of bandit formations
                        Quote: Passing by
                        So all these are your signs of a "real", "equal" opponent

                        yes it’s funny.
                        So you can agree that the partisans were equal opponents to the fascists, and the forest brothers were the red army
                        Quote: Passing by
                        I replied that the SA fought as an adult in Afghanistan.

                        I do not know such a definition - as - for an adult.
                        The SA led an anti-terrorist operation in Afghanistan and nothing more.
                        Quote: Passing by
                        The same as in Vietnam. Only the scale is five times smaller.

                        the Vyeanama army had an air force, armored units, artillery - you generally understand that you are comparing incomparable things
                        Quote: Passing by
                        If you directly insist on a classic, strictly according to the textbook, war, then there is no problem - there was an extremely indicative war with Georgia. Yes, the scale is much thinner, far from Iraq.

                        Far from Iraq, mine did not stand nearby at all
                        Quote: Passing by
                        K. But, did the regular armies fight 100%?

                        Fought?
                        Quote: Passing by
                        Yes. Were the forces equal? Comparable for all formal indicators.

                        Seriously ? belay
                        well, if you think that the armed forces of Georgia and Russia are equal - then OH
                        Quote: Passing by
                        Moreover, the Soviet and American schools met. The result is an instant defeat, a clear superiority in the art of warfare.

                        American and Soviet schools of warfare have had 4
                        2 times in Iraq - with a complete and almost instant defeat of Saddam
                        in Yugoslavia - the defeat with the help of the Air Force (when the entire air defense system of the country, built according to the Soviet model 0, turned out to be ineffective, and of course the Azerbaijani-Armenian conflict.
                        When the entrenched army of Armenia (only dEbilis can claim that she did not take part there), the defense was built according to all the canons of the Sov. military school, and even in the mountains - nevertheless, it was blown to dust. army of Azerbaijan - built according to NATO standards.
                        so don't talk nonsense, it hurts.
                        Good luck hi
                      3. 0
                        July 12 2021
                        American and Soviet

                        Not seriously, from the fact that the crowd of gopniks of another gopnik stammered no one became stronger.
                        When the entrenched army of Armenia

                        Ahem, Soviet-style air defense during the Cold Warthere wasn’t even close. OSA-AK (M) - short-range air defense missile system, adopted for service in 1980 (more than 40 years have passed since its adoption).
                      4. +3
                        July 12 2021
                        Quote: atalef
                        if on these grounds you speak about the equality of the regular army and irrigation formations - I find it very strange

                        By what criteria do you attribute to irregulars? By registering a party with the UN? An organized, stable force, confidently defending its territory from being captured by a strong army, is this kind of nonsense, does it count without a stamped paper?
                        Quote: atalef
                        So you can agree that the partisans were equal opponents to the fascists

                        And there is. In two years, Belarusian partisans completely cleared 20% of the Germans, and controlled in general up to 60% of the territory of Belarus. Naturally, they were weaker than the Wehrmacht, there were up to 100 thousand of them, and there were millions in the Wehrmacht, and in the end they were defeated, but, for a minute, the French army was defeated in a month, and the partisan was crushed for two years. Now tell yourself, are the Belarusian partisans comparable to the regular army?
                        Quote: atalef
                        The SA led an anti-terrorist operation in Afghanistan and nothing more.

                        How, how, I heard right, hundreds of thousands of Afghan terrorists, poking around in caches and bushes ??? I understand everything, in the heat of the discussion I do not feel sorry for anything, especially common sense, but still at least slightly limit the flight of imagination!
                        Quote: atalef
                        the Vyeanama army had an air force, armored units, artillery - you generally understand that you are comparing incomparable things

                        Do you understand that you have fallen into the trap of formalism? In your opinion, if there is a set of certain obligatory attributes, such as one hundred tanks, one hundred guns, this is a type of strength, but if there are zero tanks, one hundred guns, then it is already nonsense? Are you seriously?
                        The criterion of strength is the ability to defend its territory from the enemy or destroy the enemy. This is achieved by an organized and controlled force, competent tactics and strategy, weapons that are necessary for the implementation of these tactics and strategies. If you don't need a tank to win, then you don't need one. If the Afghan mujahideen have a tachanka instead of a tank, this does not in any way characterize the mujahideen as an insignificant irregular force. In some places, this force was on an equal footing, albeit limited, but the army contingent, saturated with equipment.
                        Quote: atalef
                        Far from Iraq, mine did not stand nearby at all

                        Was it a question of who soaked more enemies and spent shells? It was about the ability of the RA to fight the classic regular army. This was brilliantly demonstrated. Without rivers of blood, trillions of dollars in spending, and months of all-out bombing, an instant military victory was achieved. Victory by defeating the opponent's army. The modern army.
                        Quote: atalef
                        well, if you think that the armed forces of Georgia and Russia are equal - then OH

                        Are you serious about this? Do you have in your head the image of a bully with an inscription on a red T-shirt - Russia, a mutuzy puny nerd in a blue poppy with an inscription - Georgia? Are you seriously suggesting that you explain that it was not abstract armed forces that fought, but that concrete units fought with concrete weapons? Their numbers are known to both sides. Their weapons are known. And these forces were comparable. Numerically. Qualitatively. This is a well-known fact. Why manipulate so unpretentiously, it only weakens your position.
                        Quote: atalef
                        2 times in Iraq - with a complete and almost instant defeat of Saddam

                        It was an American spherical horse in a vacuum. In any other circumstance, they screw up. For example, they poked their heads into Afghanistan. We flew out of Afghanistan. 50 years have passed since Vietnam, and the result is exactly the same for approximately the same conditions. Draining. Stability is a sign of skill.
                        Quote: atalef
                        the defense was built according to all the canons of the owls. military school

                        Crushed the Soviet canons in Armenia? And then what, I do not understand your logic, what is the crime? Pay attention, Armenia is not at all the USSR, and those patterns for her are not the fact that they fit. And also note that 30 years have passed since Soviet times. Yes, yes, so many. The Russian school naturally evolves, and the effectiveness of this path has been confirmed in the war with Georgia. What the Armenians have is their business, they fenced themselves off from Russia, for thirty years on their own.
                        At this point I will stop the discussion, I said everything I wanted to say, I heard your counter-arguments and took into account, if you still have something to say, I will definitely read it.
                        All the best to you.
                      5. 0
                        July 13 2021
                        In many ways, you are right. BUT ... Actually, the Georgians themselves shouted that by switching to NATO standards they would hide Russia. Nobody pulled them by the tongue. The question of the result. Soviet troops left Afgan with banners unfurled. Over the bridge on the Pyanj river. I remember this. The US soldiers fled under cover of the night. Without warning their Afghan allies. And this is a fact, how do not justify his military type with cunning. As I always say, it's a matter of outcome. Let's see how long the pro-American government will hold out after greasing the heels of the American contingent.
                        Najib, after the withdrawal of the OKW, held out for three years, relying on the KhAD and the tsaranda, created and trained by Soviet instructors. He died after the ebn's betrayal, when he asked Russia not for ammunition, but only for fuel, for which he was ready to pay at world prices. But Secretary of State Mr. Baker persuaded the drunk not to do it.

                        Concerning the Armenians. I see a striking picture of the difference between the representatives of this people who served in the marines in 1987, who later fought in Azerbaijan in Karabakh, and the present. The howl that the Russians should declare war on Azerbaijan was even heard in Irkutsk and was heard from local Armenians. But there was NOT ONE who went there. And the surrender of Shushi is generally a song, a new understanding of military affairs in the Armenian performance.
          2. +12
            July 11 2021
            With all due respect in Portugal, the pension is 2,5 times or 3 times less (540 EUR). However, taking into account the level of employment and salaries (1200 euros), a good third of people survive on a social pension of 200 euros. It seems to me that the rest of the values ​​in this wonderful diagram are also somewhat inaccurate. Among other things, what is the median wealth? What is this super-duper factor?) It seems like the grown-up guys in the world statistics have agreed to let all the skulls pass? It seems to me that Peru and Ecuador should not be crammed into the same shelf with us. We can live better, without doubt and this remains to be done. But "lowering" your country (or not your own?) Should seem to me to be more truthful statements. For example, write that in terms of the number of days with temperatures above 0 degrees, the Russian Federation is inferior to the Set by a factor of 2. This will be fine ... Thank you for your position.
            1. +1
              July 11 2021
              Horror, not an editor. "Pass through the PPP". What kind of "skulls"?)
            2. +12
              July 11 2021
              Quote: sleeve
              With all due respect in Portugal, the pension is 2,5 times or 3 times less (540 EUR). However, taking into account the level of employment and salaries (1200 euros), a good third of people survive on a social pension of 200 euros. It seems to me that the rest of the values ​​in this wonderful diagram are also somewhat inaccurate. Among other things, what is the median wealth? What is this super-duper factor?) It seems like the grown-up guys in the world statistics have agreed to let all the skulls pass? It seems to me that Peru and Ecuador should not be crammed into the same shelf with us. We can live better, without doubt and this remains to be done. But "lowering" your country (or not your own?) Should seem to me to be more truthful statements. For example, write that in terms of the number of days with temperatures above 0 degrees, the Russian Federation is inferior to the Set by a factor of 2. This will be fine ... Thank you for your position.

              And please don't be for Latvia ...
              I myself am from there and I know perfectly well what is what.
              The minimum pension is less than the apartment bill.
              Look not in absolute numbers, but the possibility of living on this pension.
              Different European countries have a different approach to retirees.
              And I know firsthand how pensioners live in Russia. Mother-in-law with father-in-law in Novosibirsk, aunts in Kazan, Arkhangelsk and Moscow (well, this does not count for Russia).
              1. +4
                July 11 2021
                I agree with you completely. From the evil one ... It is necessary to mature in the roots and in the details. Otherwise, "it's not a crime, it's worse, it's a mistake" ...
            3. -7
              July 11 2021
              sleeve - Did you understand what you wrote? Quote: "a good third of people live on a social pension of 200 euros" - but nothing that we have in the Russian Federation millions "live" on a pension of 100 euros - eh? And now they do not even live to see these cents.
              1. +7
                July 12 2021
                Understood perfectly. Do you go to a store with Portuguese prices? Do you pay a communal service in euros? Why are you using someone else's currency as your equivalent? Translate into rubles (do not be lazy) their basket along with related costs. Who can argue that we need better? But the trouble is, our pension system is different. As well as the subjective reduction of tax payments. We must fight for improvement. But do not equate the blue with the square.
                1. -1
                  July 13 2021
                  sleeve - How did you write - "communal" - yes? I wonder how you think I can compare the "communal" in Siberia with the Portuguese? Can you help an illiterate - a small car of firewood (such as a truck UAZ) cost 4000 rubles a year ago, and now it is already reaching 8000 thousand, the heating season is up to 8 months a year, since you think who spends more on a communal flat out of my 100 euros pensions, or a Portuguese from his 200 euros?
                  But about "fighting for improvement" - you are not me, you write to the one who was going to catch up and overtake the same Portugal in terms of GDP per capita. I did not catch up, did not overtake - as always, everything turned out to be worthless trembling.
                  1. +1
                    July 13 2021
                    About firewood and coal, and snow with a shovel in the know. I live in a private house. 30000 for the whole season goes away. Plus 2000 communal apartments per month. Why is the pension so small? Of course, none of my business. Go and work? Or are you not a pensioner? It's just that there are many empirical thought-formations here on VO. It's hard for an ordinary man like me to break through into reality. Plus, a rather active part of the people, who perceives their life as a defeat and stubbornly looking for those to blame. The process is understandable and even pleasant in places, but ineffective. Just in case, I'm not particularly passionate about the state system, but I also don't accept "trolling" with the aforementioned bias. Well, to the rural reality ... Yes. 4000 somewhere per month on average. Well, for 3000 pensioners, we are entitled to a refund (they write about 50%, but it turns out 1000) 100 euros of the pension amount is a little incomprehensible. What's this we have there, 8700-9000 judging by the exchange rate? In total, about 5000-6000 in the remainder. All the same Strange amount. Anyway. If only one pensioner will live, yes, with Soviet hardening, but with our current prices, then it comes out from 1000 rubles a week (a little less, I spend it myself) with the dog together. And without her in any way. Again, a vegetable garden with potatoes and vegetables. Fidgety, of course ... Dreary. Glory to the Almighty while all this is only in perspective. But the feeling is probably better than in Portugal 200 euros. And how are you?
                  2. 0
                    July 13 2021
                    And I apologize, but it seems to me that the discussion on this topic here is out of place ...
                    1. 0
                      July 15 2021
                      sleeve - you are right, we got into a conversation a little off topic.
                      With your permission, I will answer briefly in a personal. hi
            4. 0
              July 12 2021
              Quote: sleeve
              With all due respect in Portugal, the pension is 2,5 times or 3 times less (540 EUR). However, taking into account the level of employment and salaries (1200 euros), a good third of people survive on a social pension of 200 euros. It seems to me that the rest of the values ​​in this wonderful diagram are also somewhat inaccurate. Among other things, what is the median wealth? What is this super-duper factor?) It seems like the grown-up guys in the world statistics have agreed to let all the skulls pass? It seems to me that Peru and Ecuador should not be crammed into the same shelf with us. We can live better, without doubt and this remains to be done. But "lowering" your country (or not your own?) Should seem to me to be more truthful statements. For example, write that in terms of the number of days with temperatures above 0 degrees, the Russian Federation is inferior to the Set by a factor of 2. This will be fine ... Thank you for your position.


              I'll add a fly in the ointment to your barrel of "honey": This is information from the blog of the Minister for Integration and Macroeconomics of the Eurasian Economic Commission, a former adviser to the president, which means that the situation in the country is even more sad. sad
            5. 0
              July 13 2021
              It seems to me that Peru and Ecuador should not be crammed into the same shelf with us.

              you are still in pedivik and look who makes this report laughing and more ... according to this report, kazakhstan and belarus live richer than russia ... nuff said good
          3. +8
            July 11 2021
            At the expense of feeding, of course, too much:
            In terms of median wealth, Russians are 14,5 times poorer than Americans ($ 79274), 19 times poorer than Spaniards ($ 105831), and 22,6 times poorer than Japanese ($ 122980). Russians are 38901 times behind the inhabitants of Estonia (7 dollars),

            Comparing bare numbers is generally incorrect.
            And if about Estonia, now it is fed by the EU, from there and well-being. If the EU does not give money, then the standard of living will be slightly different. So yes, if Russia takes Estonia, then it will have to be fed. So it's better to stay in the EU.
            1. +7
              July 11 2021
              I agree with you, it is incorrect to compare bare numbers. Since life there, as is commonly believed, is more expensive, then people's incomes should be higher there.
              However, in some sectors of the economy, salaries in the Russian Federation are quite at the world level:
              1. 0
                July 12 2021
                This is a good sign! Correct! People's love is immediately visible, each letter appears. Of course, you can start a barrel organ about lobbying (by the way, it’s a barrel organ, it will not equalize the indices, but only halve it, increasing the average income of a congressman 4 times). But frankly, some strange class has appeared in our country. Absolutely no reason to exist in such conditions. However, it can be justified that this is our contract with them for the exercise of representative powers with the final amount of payment stretched out over time. I have heard such explanations as well, it seems that the discrepancy will look softer from this.
              2. +1
                July 12 2021
                I agree with you, it is incorrect to compare bare numbers. Since life there, as is commonly believed, is more expensive, then people's incomes should be higher there.
                However, in some sectors of the economy, salaries in the Russian Federation are quite at the world level:

                I understood and appreciated your obsession with some points. But that's not basically what I'm talking about. The Baltics cannot, in principle, feed themselves on their own. Either the EU is feeding, or someone else. And if in a solo voyage, it will quickly catch up with our country. I am from Moldova )
        2. 0
          July 12 2021
          Quote: Egoza
          Or maybe the other way around? The United States understands that if something ... ... then its beloved NATO allies will scatter from them in different directions! And the United States will rake in full "for all the good"

          Everything is simpler: the staff members themselves have nothing to defend, they have no homeland.
          There is no such concept.
          For loot seriously / to death do not fight. hi
    2. -2
      July 11 2021
      "What it costs us a" house "to build, we DRAW (print), we will live."
    3. +5
      July 11 2021
      Take Superman, Spider-Man, and other "heroes" from their comics into the army, and before dinner they will defeat the entire Galaxy. ..
      1. +2
        July 11 2021
        Quote: Thrifty
        Take Superman, Spider-Man, and other "heroes" from their comics into the army, and before dinner they will defeat the entire Galaxy. ..

        Yes figs with her with the galaxy. The main thing is that they save the world in the pavilions of Hollywood and do not get confused underfoot.
    4. +7
      July 11 2021
      Quote: paul3390
      Here one thing is interesting - and on the feijoa of Russia the Baltic states ??

      It's more interesting here:
      The political scientist drew attention to the fact that the Baltic countries refused to recognize the legitimacy of the Soviet Union, regularly declaring about "illegal occupation" in order to accuse the Russian Federation. However, this approach can be used by Moscow by filing in an international court a claim, according to which the territory of the Baltic States is from a legal point of view Russian property.
      Gorodnenko recalled that, not recognizing the USSR, the Baltic countries are returning to the status quo of 1917. Russia, referring to legal and legal documents, can challenge the independence of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia from Moscow. So, raised bills under land sale and purchase agreements can greatly reduce the Baltics ....

      Source: https://politpuzzle.ru/200528-podnyatye-rf-scheta-po-dogovoram-kupli-prodazhi-zemli-mogut-silno-umenshit-pribaltiku/?utm_source=finobzor.ru
      1. +1
        July 11 2021
        Uh-huh. And if you remember how much dough our tsars bought them at one time ...
        1. +1
          July 12 2021
          Quote: paul3390
          Uh-huh. And if you remember how much dough our tsars bought them at one time ...

          Someone did not understand your thoughts (judging by the "sticks"). As for the sale and purchase, in 2018, an article was published on "VO":
          https://topwar.ru/145696-kak-sformirovalis-narody-pribaltiki.html
      2. 0
        July 11 2021
        Eh, good idea. Of course, it will not lead to anything, but it will shake up the "legal foundations" of theirs. And what kind of fish can be caught in water so turbid, you can't even guess right away)))
    5. +1
      July 11 2021
      ... to defend the territory of the United States while deterring nuclear attacks ...

      what a deep phrase winked laughing
      1. 0
        July 11 2021
        Immediately appear the valiant "G-I", with tennis rackets, beating off nuclear warheads. laughing
    6. 0
      July 11 2021
      They are just the poor fellows are tired of waiting, but how long will they be enough to be waiting for when they get tired of maintaining this Caudle Regional Committee from the District of Columbia ???
    7. -3
      July 11 2021
      Why feed? Once it produced good enough for the whole Union. Produced then, can and today.
      1. +4
        July 11 2021
        Are you proposing to pump tens of billions into them again as a Union and rebuild their lost industry again? what
        1. -7
          July 11 2021
          The union did not throw money anywhere. Modern commodity-money relations did not exist. The union, using human and material resources, built factories and developed agriculture. Therefore, your reply "Again ..." is a jerk. However, as well as "OFFER". I didn’t suggest, I was constant.
          1. +6
            July 11 2021
            Aaaa ... That is, there was no money in the Soviet Union? And his resources - were they worth nothing in monetary terms? God - what an epic nonsense ..
            1. -2
              July 11 2021
              Vyunosha, you don't even know how to debate and get personal. Boring.
              ..
              Read what money is under socialism and what is under capitalism. Spot the difference. Learn.
              1. +6
                July 11 2021
                All materiality has its equivalents both under socialism and under capitalism. The essence of the principle of use. Even if the evaluative features of finance will differ in one way or another, these are "diverted resources" for the creation of something. Accordingly, they will have a completely material assessment and not even subject to the influence of the "difference in financial ideologies." There is a building, there is a price. There is production, there is a price. Etc. There will be no particular difference in the moment of "feature realization".
              2. 0
                July 13 2021
                Google the amount of subsidies in the USSR per person to the republican budgets of the Russian Federation and the Baltic republics .... You will be surprised. hi
          2. +1
            July 12 2021
            That is, as ? we had communism !!! So your parents, coming to the store, just took food and left, I'll go get a TV, we'll build a factory !!! but what to do, I need equipment, but I'll go get it !!! ??? the economy is internal and external, no one has canceled it!
          3. 0
            July 12 2021
            on the history of the school there is a paragraph on commodity-money relations in the old days !! study
  2. +4
    July 11 2021
    To summarize, he demands the restoration of the strength of the US Armed Forces and an increase in the number of military equipment.

    Wow! Even requires. wassat
    Figasebe. This is true democracy - every gopher demands something from the state. lol
    1. -1
      July 11 2021
      Quote: Alex2048
      This is true democracy - every gopher demands something from the state.

      Almost all of them require on order, having received an advance payment from the military laughing .
    2. 0
      July 12 2021
      Well, it's not a state (RF) that owes nothing to anyone
  3. -1
    July 11 2021
    Also a discovery for me! Soviet / Russian, German, Japanese, Chinese, North Korean soldiers are highly valued in the world. But not at all pampered Americans!
    1. -1
      July 11 2021
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      Also a discovery for me! Soviet / Russian, German, Japanese, Chinese, North Korean soldiers are highly valued in the world. But not at all pampered Americans!

      I have never heard of a Japanese or North Korean PMC hi
      1. +8
        July 11 2021
        Quote: Krasnodar
        North Korean PMC

        They, without PMCs, forced Trump to shut up and tail between their legs, dump from their shores. And I have not heard about fat mattress kamikaze, "heroically" protecting Pearl Harbor ...
        1. -4
          July 11 2021
          Quote: kot423

          They, without PMCs, forced Trump to shut up and tail between their legs, dump from their shores. And I have not heard about fat mattress kamikaze, "heroically" protecting Pearl Harbor ...

          Thanks to the North Korean nuclear weapons and the understanding that Eun will use it))
          Fat mattress kamikazes kicked the ass of the Yapam pretty well, and the technical superiority of the US Marines over the Japanese infantry defending on the islands was out of the question. hi
          Underestimating a potential adversary always leads to tragic results - this is always worth remembering.
          1. +7
            July 11 2021
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Thanks to the North Korean nuclear weapons and the understanding that Eun will use it))

            You contradict yourself. Either PMCs, or the mobility of mattresses from the presence of nuclear weapons and the determination to use it in their direction ... Therefore, PMCs (presence or absence) do not have anything, with nuclear weapons and determination = mattresses can only fight against "Zulus" who are still with stone running with axes (while screeching all over the world about their super duper army and technologies) - yapping at others (not to mention military operations) - the gut is thin.
            Fat mattress kamikaze kicked yapam's ass pretty good
            Proofs in the studio about kamikaze (in the literal sense of the word), rams, self-sacrifice for the sake of victory / protection, etc. Or I will count the highlighted above as another empty chatter.
            Disembarkation and other stupid / ill-conceived orders of the mattress generals where mattress soldiers lay down in the thousands not to offer
            1. -2
              July 11 2021
              Either PMCs, or the sluggishness of mattresses from the presence of nuclear weapons

              PMCs are a sign of the demand for Americans (veterans, as a rule) in hot spots - a commercial structure, the market creates offers for them.
              Nuclear weapons - and who is not afraid of him? laughing
              mattresses can fight only with the "Zulu" who are still running around with stone axes (while screeching to the whole world about their super duper army and technologies) - yapping at others (not to mention the fighting) - the gut is thin.

              On the contrary, the Iraqi army was rolled out very quickly (fairy tales about bought generals are bullshit), but they have an overlap with the partisans - from Vietnam to Afghanistan. hi
              Proofs in the studio about kamikaze (in the literal sense of the word), rams, self-sacrifice for the sake of victory / protection, etc. Or I will count the highlighted above as another empty chatter.

              lol No, well, breaking the enemy's fist with your jaw is also a method that did not help the Japanese very much, by the way, but you can read how many Americans were awarded posthumously for stabbing a grenade with their body in the same Iraq, for example Yes saving comrades.
              Disembarkation and other stupid / ill-conceived orders of the mattress generals where mattress soldiers lay down in the thousands not to offer

              Unfortunately, not only the Americans had stupid orders from the generals, and you know this very well, but the result remains the result - the islands were taken.
              Now the proofs:
              The first American pilot to actually ram was Captain Fleming, commander of the Vindicator Bomber Squadron of the United States Marine Corps. During the Battle of Midway on June 5, 1942, he led his squadron's attack on Japanese cruisers. On the way to the target, his plane was hit by an anti-aircraft shell and caught fire, but the captain continued the attack and bombed. Seeing that the bombs of his subordinates missed the target (the squadron consisted of reservists and had poor training), Fleming turned and swooped down on the enemy again, crashing a burning bomber into the cruiser Mikuma. The damaged ship lost its combat capability, and was soon finished off by other American bombers.

              Another American who went to the ram was Major Ralph Cheli, who on August 18 1943 led his bomber group to attack the Japanese airfield Dagua (New Guinea). Almost immediately his B-25 "Mitchell" was hit; then Cheli sent his burning plane down and crashed into enemy aircraft on the ground, breaking five cars with the Mitchell hull. For this feat, Ralph Cheli was posthumously awarded the highest award of the USA - the Congressional Medal of Honor.


              https://topwar.ru/33665-vozdushnyy-taran-oruzhie-ne-tolko-sovetskih-geroev.html
              Kamikaze, no?
              1. +3
                July 11 2021
                Quote: Krasnodar
                PMCs are a sign of the demand for Americans (veterans, as a rule) in hot spots - a commercial structure, the market creates offers for them.

                This is not an indicator of the fighting efficiency of the army in the field, although according to all proofs - this is exactly what the mattress warriors strive for, to take at least the crying and pissing marines (although squeals about their "elite" sea) after the capture.
                Quote: Krasnodar
                the Iraqi army was rolled out very quickly

                What is the difference between the Iraqi army with outdated weapons and untrained troops from the "Zulu"? At the same time, I do not think it is necessary to remind how many mattresses were ironed in Iraq using N-fold superiority in range, then how long after entering did they sit clumsily at the bases, screaming all over the world about their "heroic and invincible army"?
                Quote: Krasnodar
                You can read how many Americans were awarded posthumously for stabbing a grenade with their bodies in Iraq, for example, yes, saving comrades.

                Uh-huh, there was an article about the shaved one awarded, he got a defender, it's a pity not posthumously. Too see kamikaze, only in the other direction, when dumped after the warning.
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Now the proofs:

                2nd out of 418 thousand? Do not shame, the Japanese created the regiments under the motto of defending their homeland.
                1. -3
                  July 11 2021
                  This is not an indicator of the fighting efficiency of the army in the field, although according to all proofs - this is exactly what the mattress warriors strive for, to take at least the crying and pissing marines (although squeals about their "elite" sea) after the capture.

                  Well, people are different everywhere laughing As well as situations))

                  What is the difference between the Iraqi army with outdated weapons and untrained troops from the "Zulu"? At the same time, I do not think it is necessary to remind how many mattresses were ironed in Iraq using N-fold superiority in range, then how long after entering did they sit clumsily at the bases, screaming all over the world about their "heroic and invincible army"?

                  They don't scream too much, by the way. laughing
                  Well, who else from civilized countries fought with an army that has its own tanks, air defense, artillery, and so on? Britons with Argentines, Russians with Georgians (the latter were many times weaker than the Iraqis, well, the superiority was on the Russian side, the long-range workers worked against them, well, the Israelis and the Syrians in 1982 (a more or less equal alignment in terms of technical equipment, by the way. this, since the Korean War - no one request
                  2nd out of 418 thousand? Do not shame, the Japanese created the regiments under the motto of defending their homeland.

                  lol Who cares how many (obviously more than two and twenty)? Americans generally have a different philosophy - “I don’t want you to die for your homeland. I want the enemy to die in battles with you for his frightened homeland "(c)
                  And the Japanese - yes, they created kamikaze, dissected prisoners and Chinese children and ... capitulated, in the end laughing
                  1. +2
                    July 11 2021
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    and..capitulated, in the end

                    The question is why? Because of the action of intimidation and show-off of mattresses that bombed 2 cities, which in no way did not relate to the military and industry, it is stupid for "this is what we have"? Dresden remind what they turned into, just for show-off?
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    I do not want you to die for your homeland. I want the enemy to die in battles with you for his frightened homeland

                    It is interesting to look at you when the next Powell will shake the next henna and the Promised Land will be compared to the surface in their philosophy.
                    Py.Sy. Don't even bother to write about friendship, before Powell mattresses with Saddam also sucked into the gums. As with Gaddafi.
                    1. -1
                      July 11 2021
                      Quote: kot423
                      bombed 2 cities, which were not related to the military and industry in any way

                      sure ?
                      Iroshima was located on flat terrain, slightly above sea level at the mouth of the Ota River, on 6 islands connected by 81 bridges. The population of the city before the war was over 340 thousand people, which made Hiroshima the seventh largest city in Japan. The city was the headquarters of the Fifth Division and the Second Main Army of Field Marshal Shunroku Hata, who commanded the defense of all of southern Japan. Hiroshima was an important supply base for the Japanese army.

                      Nagasaki is one of the industrial centers of the Kyushu region. The city is divided into 4 economic regions: central, Urakami, Sumiyoshi and Higashi [source not specified 1147 days].

                      Since the second half of the XNUMXth century, Nagasaki has been the largest shipbuilding center in Japan. At the shipyards of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries - Nagasaki Shipyard & Machinery Works of the main shipbuilding division of Mitsubishi Heavy Industrie Until the end of World War II, warships were produced here
                    2. -1
                      July 11 2021
                      The question is why? Because of the action of intimidation and show-off of mattresses that bombed 2 cities, which in no way did not relate to the military and industry, it is stupid for "this is what we have"? Dresden remind what they turned into, just for show-off?

                      Of course they did not, especially the torpedo production of Mitsubishi-Urakami. In addition, the city produced guns, ships and other military equipment. hi
                      Hiroshima - the headquarters of the Fifth Division and the Second Main Army of Field Marshal Shunroku Hata, who commanded the defense of all of southern Japan, was located there. Hiroshima was an important supply base for the Japanese army.
                      Dresden - it should have been bombed back in 1943. Zeiss sights were manufactured in Dresden.

                      It is interesting to look at you when the next Powell will shake the next henna and the Promised Land will be compared to the surface in their philosophy.

                      laughing The Promised Land has more Yadren Baton than the Eun, and more advanced, so that Powel can shake anything and how he wants, only partisans from behind the civilian population can bomb the Promised Land. Yes
                      1. +1
                        July 11 2021
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        The Promised Land has more Yadren Baton than Eun, and more perfect ones,

                        Then tell your peacemaker if you survive (although it is doubtful, since any military conflict with nuclear weapons with a 90% guarantee will go into the 3rd world). Do you have a total of 25 thousand Dresden + 160 Hiroshima + 90 Nagasaki there?
                      2. -1
                        July 11 2021
                        In aggregate, it will be typed on Washington and Boston, and for amers this, as the experience with Eun has shown, losses are unacceptable.
                      3. 0
                        July 12 2021
                        How will you deliver by mail?
                      4. 0
                        July 12 2021
                        ICBM Jericho 3, etc.
          2. -1
            July 12 2021
            Underestimation yes, it does. But hatred for the enemy helps, and this is also worth remembering. This is where the "fat mattress kamikazes" heroically defended pearl harbor come from. I think so.
            1. 0
              July 12 2021
              In my opinion, everything should be treated with a cool head request
      2. -7
        July 11 2021
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
        Also a discovery for me! Soviet / Russian, German, Japanese, Chinese, North Korean soldiers are highly valued in the world. But not at all pampered Americans!

        I have never heard of a Japanese or North Korean PMC hi

        I'm NOT talking about mercenaries, but about warriors. hi
        1. -7
          July 11 2021
          laughing
          There are only a few hundreds of people in Russia who can cock the M-16 in an elementary way. In the USA, hundreds of thousands are able to use AK, but I am already silent about the "arches". Once again, underestimating the enemy always leads to bad results. hi
          1. +3
            July 11 2021
            Quote: Krasnodar
            laughing
            There are only a few hundreds of people in Russia who can cock the M-16 in an elementary way. In the USA, hundreds of thousands are able to use AK, but I am already silent about the "arches". Once again, underestimating the enemy always leads to bad results. hi

            This skill comes in minutes.
            The question is why bother with unnecessary knowledge?
            For example, I know. And a few more types of assault rifles from European countries. I don’t need this for everyday life, it’s like a hobby, free time.
            Do you really think that before the Great Patriotic War, everyone knew the device of German submachine guns?
            1. -4
              July 11 2021
              This skill comes in minutes.
              The question is why bother with unnecessary knowledge?
              For example, I know. And a few more types of assault rifles from European countries. I don’t need this for everyday life, it’s like a hobby, free time.
              Do you really think that before the Great Patriotic War, everyone knew the device of German submachine guns?

              Before World War II, there was DOSAAF, the Voroshilov movement, etc., the average young man knew how to use a rifle, no matter which - the main type of small arms of the Wehrmacht, by the way.
              But not the point - we talked about whether the Americans are suckers or not. Judging by their skills, shooting clubs, societies, competitions, the number of veterans of hot spots, PMCs - no hi
          2. 0
            July 11 2021
            Only here, in Sevastopol, several thousand military personnel are routinely able to use M-16 plus for a thousand airsoft players who also possess this "rare" skill. There is even nothing to say about all of Russia.
            1. -2
              July 11 2021
              New information, but not the essence. The fact is that Americans are far from suckers, as some people like to present here.
              1. 0
                July 12 2021
                They are not suckers. Just ignorant pompous dreamers. Americans have hundreds of millions of barrels in their hands. They use these trunks often. So what? Does this make them a great nation? No, it doesn't. They shoot each other in the streets, yes, there are a lot of punks there. So what? Like the Americans will take up arms in case of a possible attack on them and will defend themselves? No, they will not, they will scatter and the army will not hold out for long (but will there be?). There were examples. So the situation with the USSR in 1941 would have been fatal for the United States. There are no heroes there. It's just that this country is lucky, the ocean and all that. And then they themselves do not believe that someone will attack them, they are sure of this ironically. So to speak, there are no candidates nearby, or rather, their fighting and human qualities are even worse than those of the Americans). So the "great" Americans in the movies fantasize about their power and unmeasured strength). The lack of real and worthy heroes has spawned thousands of fictional, sometimes very bizarre). ALL the wars that the Americans unleashed were unjust and aggressive. It is no secret that, in fact, the American army is not soldiers and warriors, they are mercenaries without principles and codes, who attack countries for money. Once again, as for the American population as a whole, the presence of hundreds of millions of trunks on their hands does not make them patriots and soldiers, defenders of their country; rather, on the contrary, in the event of the "X" hour, they will contribute to the flourishing of looting, disobedience to the authorities and crime.
                1. -1
                  July 12 2021
                  They are not suckers

                  I'm just talking about this drinks
                  Otherwise:
                  1)
                  Just ignorant pompous dreamers

                  I would not say that insignificant laughing As for the pompous - I will not argue, but in the low competence of people "responsible" for a very large share of the discoveries of the second half of the twentieth and early 21st centuries that contribute to scientific and technological progress. I would not blame insignificant hi
                  2)
                  Americans have hundreds of millions of barrels in their hands. They use these trunks often. So what? Does this make them a great nation? No, it doesn't.

                  I think the greatness of a nation is manifested in something else, for example:
                  We, like half of the world, live in their cultural space, the American intellectual elite lives, to a large extent, in ours. Literature, classical music - Chekhov, Tolstoy, Tchaikovsky, Stravinsky, etc.
                  ... So what? Like the Americans will take up arms in case of a possible attack on them and will defend themselves? No, they will not, they will scatter and the army will not hold out for long (but will there be?)

                  No idea request They have the mentality of owning weapons (I'm not talking about punks, but all sorts of shooting societies, etc.), caring for weapons and a bunch of quite professional war veterans.
                  There were examples. So the situation with the USSR in 1941 would have been fatal for the United States. There are no heroes there.

                  There are, of course, heroes, but the situation - yes, the fig knows, judging by their actions against the Yap, people are quite frostbitten.
                  It's just that this country is lucky, the ocean and all that.
                  Duc, therefore, the whites went there (and not quite) - there are no wars, as in Old Europe, there is a lot of land, working hands are in demand, like brains
                  The lack of real and worthy heroes has spawned thousands of fictional, sometimes very bizarre).

                  In Iraq alone, many covered a grenade with their bodies, saving comrades - there are enough frostbitten everywhere.
                  It is no secret that, in fact, the American army is not soldiers and warriors, they are mercenaries without principles and codes, who attack countries for money.

                  laughing a contractor - he is a contractor everywhere)) They do, they will order
                  In my opinion, they have since the 60s, with temporary outbursts like Reagan, weak politicians. An army of norms.
                  Once again, as for the American population as a whole, the presence of hundreds of millions of trunks on their hands does not make them patriots and soldiers, defenders of their country; rather, on the contrary, in the event of the "X" hour, they will contribute to the flourishing of looting, disobedience to the authorities and crime.

                  Maybe. Americans are primarily interested in their home, then in the area, settlement, then the State, and last of all the country. But sho is going on in Mexico, they are only interested in the arrival of a bunch of illegal immigrants who interfere with them. So - do not care. European affairs - even more so. Only interested in politicians laughing
  4. +8
    July 11 2021
    only 140 aircraft, which does not allow for massive raids
    I wonder who in Russia or China will allow massive raids to be carried out with impunity? This "you" is not Vietnam, if "you" have at least a lot of planes.
  5. +11
    July 11 2021
    Americans are very fond of complaining about the pages of their publications, in the Russian Federation, in this regard, they usually gush with pride or malice, completely forgetting that publications are commercial in an environment of pluralism of opinions. And this means that the authors can fantasize in the spirit of RenTV and no one will beat them with a stick, people will hawala and circulations diverge.
    At the moment, the American Armed Forces are probably the most experienced and "theoretically" the most advanced Armed Forces on the planet in terms of the totality of parameters. Americas. the military budget is simply gigantic, and behind all this they also have the only and bloated military-political bloc in the world. Of course, they do not like the fact that they do not have a guaranteed means of leveling our strategic nuclear forces, they do not like our air defense / missile defense, they do not like the growing Chinese fleet, etc. - but do not entertain the illusion that the Russian Federation, that the PRC is up to the American level of readiness, as they say, sawing and sawing.
    1. -6
      July 11 2021
      that the Russian Federation, that the PRC to the American level of readiness, as they say, saw and saw.


      The army is based on the economy. The real sector in China is now the first in the world.
      If the Russian Federation keeps on the backlog of the USSR, then China does not "cut and cut", but is already able to stand up for itself with its army. And tomorrow the United States will sit quietly behind a puddle and look at the redistribution of the planet.
      1. 0
        July 11 2021
        Quote: dauria
        The real sector in China is now the first in the world.

        But I think that the Russian Federation has the most stable economy. Prove? But the tsunami, the tornado, the plant will take away. For example For three years, the 21st GPP in Medvedkoy was destroyed. Further than SP2 is being built
      2. +4
        July 11 2021
        Stand up for ourselves and we are capable. But in the context of "is a threat" - these are slightly different distances. The PRC's ability to project power, unlike the United States, falls much more noticeably as it moves away from Beijing, so the threat to architecture - perhaps, the threat to US forces is still very relative.
        To be really dangerous for the United States, the PRC will need to acquire not just bases, but a network of bases - air, naval, to achieve superiority of the fleet over the US fleet + allies in the region (because it must be borne in mind that the United States has been building its naval-aviation architecture for decades ) and to support this, achieve at least aviation parity of forces with comparable quality. Then yes, it will be a threat to the US in the region. While the alignment is like this - China can say A, maybe B, and then the same sour alignment awaits it as Japan.
        1. 0
          July 11 2021
          China's ability to project power in contrast to the United States


          Where to "project", for a piece of an island in the ocean laughing ? The question is simple and clear. In the war with the Russian Federation, the United States will achieve a "Pyrrhic victory" that will eventually kill them too. In the war with China, the United States can no longer count on such a victory. Even for a draw, they have little chance. There will be a "Pyrrhic victory" for China. Therefore, the only chance and strategy for the United States is to sit and not shine. And wait for China's mistakes to go against Russia.
    2. +1
      July 11 2021
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      that the Russian Federation, that the PRC to the American level of readiness, as they say, saw and saw.

      What exactly is the American level of preparedness? What kind of secret knowledge did they acquire in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, to which the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China "cut and cut"?
      Or is this knowledge from the category "for one beaten two unbeaten give"?
      1. +2
        July 11 2021
        Practical application of network centric elements. The splicing of the work of intelligence, satellites, aviation, special operations forces and "black diplomacy" in a more or less unified complex. Work on bugs, respectively. Honing individual types of weapons, interacting and organizing with allies in the bloc, maintaining the combat experience of junior and middle command personnel and providing these people with combat experience and skills, culling as such is also an important element.
        Working out the strategy of interaction with the civilian population and counter-guerrilla operations. Again, working on mistakes and analyzing successes and failures.
        Working out the actions of transport aviation, logistics, repair and warehouse services, as well as networks of these services in different regions of the world.

        Korea did not become "united and socialist", the protracted and heated conflict has temporarily drawn a line under the ambitions of the left in Asia.

        Vietnam showed the Americans that counterinsurgency and agile power tools were their "Achilles' heel" - something they worked on afterwards, despite the fiasco.

        Iraq has ceased to be a central state that violated their regional architecture - it has become a snake swallowing its tail.

        Afghanistan finally took shape as inedible for no one

        With a few exceptions, the United States is pursuing either a main "visible" goal, or secondary goals that are important for their vision of regional architectures. They had no tasks to "conquer" Afghanistan, there is no one there to democratize, as a really stable bogey for the Russian Federation, it was relevant 25-30 years ago, now the era, other weapons and methods.
        1. 0
          July 11 2021
          So I did not argue with the fact that the Americans had trained themselves well in the war against an obviously weaker enemy. It was about the DB against Russia and / or China.
          Do you think that scenarios and tactics polished by the Americans will work as effectively as against the Iraqis or Vietnamese?
          1. -1
            July 11 2021
            I think that the United States has got a good hand in creating viscous defensive lines, breaking which (if necessary) their opponents would be forced to lose kinetic energy, distribute their strength and reveal their plan. The surrounding inert space, in response to this, would be forced to cooperate efforts against such activity, creating additional opposition to the enemy, forcing him to strain even more. The tension and dispersion of forces contributes to the growth of a mess (out of habit) - and at this moment the US forces acquire their classic advantage.
            By retaining their ability to act and by depleting the ability of their opponents, they usually get the conditions for action. So honing individual elements of such activities within the overall US strategy is quite logical.
            1. 0
              July 11 2021
              This is all great, but this is just a theory. Yours.
              If the conflict developed in accordance with your various “woulds”, then, undoubtedly, the Americans would have won. But since no one can know how the conflict will develop in reality, it is impossible to say to whom to "cut and cut" in reality.
            2. +2
              July 11 2021
              And, here, you, sir, lied: "... the growth of the mess (out of habit)." We've always had a mess. And only our people to them (in it) can make responsible management decisions not expected by the enemy. The German Kaiser knew a lot about Russians.
        2. +1
          July 11 2021
          Well, what does this sharpening lead to ..., practicing with allies ... and other ay-yay-yayneed to reach, or rather "cut and cut."
          Where are the victories? where are the results?
          Escape from the Bagram base and abandoned NATO troops! allies, not to mention the Afghans who served the occupiers ... This is undoubtedly a great victory smile
          You can also look at recent history, how they fled from Saigon, for example ...

          Only the states of American defense moneybags are "honed", no matter how much you give - they will "hone" everything to their wallet smile
          Here, yes, there is no equal.
          1. -2
            July 11 2021
            Here I already wrote to someone above - how do you represent the results?
            Democratic Afghanistan? Or maybe the rejection of the Sharia principles by the majority of the medieval population? Every time the Armed Forces are given the task not to "conquer" but much more vanilla - from political interests, for example, lewdness occurs with enviable regularity, and not only with the Americans. Suffice it to recall what kind of resistance Napoleon met in Spain or from the "cudgel of the people's war" in our country - and this was also an organized force that crushed the regular armies. would have happened, but such a task was not set for political, economic and image reasons. Like the Americans in Afghanistan.
            But we are actually in vain rejoicing and gloating about their exit from there - this exit, a signal that despite the damage to the image, America is concentrating. For larger tasks, probably. And now this is no longer good.
            1. +2
              July 11 2021
              Quote: Knell Wardenheart
              Here I already wrote to someone above - how do you represent the results?
              Democratic Afghanistan? Or maybe the rejection of the Sharia principles by the majority of the medieval population? Every time the Armed Forces are given the task not to "conquer" but much more vanilla - from political interests, for example, lewdness occurs with enviable regularity, and not only with the Americans. Suffice it to recall what kind of resistance Napoleon met in Spain or from the "cudgel of the people's war" in our country - and this was also an organized force that crushed the regular armies. would have happened, but such a task was not set for political, economic and image reasons. Like the Americans in Afghanistan.
              But we are actually in vain rejoicing and gloating about their exit from there - this exit, a signal that despite the damage to the image, America is concentrating. For larger tasks, probably. And now this is no longer good.

              This is a very popular "excuse" now, but the United States was not going to build anything in Afghanistan, democracy there and other nyaki ...
              Well, that's a lie smile or maybe the statements of various officials about the goals and objectives of the democratic countries led by America in Afghanistan were a lie. For 20 years, so much has been said ...
              In general, no matter how you look - a lie on a lie and a lie drives you.
              Only the military budget is more and more, and, accordingly, the welfare of those involved in cutting this main American state. the pie is getting better and better.
              They don't need victories smile but better just "small", not fatal defeats and the cream that can be removed from this by improving, honing, introducing, working out, developing, increasing efficiency ... what else is there? And strenuously promoting its newest, best, brilliant, most effective….
              Well, life is good, as they say smile
    3. +1
      July 11 2021
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      At the moment the American Armed Forces are probably the most experienced and "theoretically" the most advanced Armed Forces on the planet in terms of the totality of parameters. Americas. the military budget is simply gigantic, and behind all this they also have the only and bloated military-political bloc in the world.

      At the last moment (the Vietnam War), the American Armed Forces were also not weak, but the Vietnamese in 1975 forced them to scramble from Vietnam leaving their wards puppets from South Vietnam, led by Nguyen Van Thieu, who simply called it "Escape from Ho Chi Minh City."
      46 years have passed, and ....... what do we see? "" "the most experienced and" theoretically "the most advanced aircraft on the planet in terms of a set of parameters" "" ingloriously getting up on their skis, they scramble from Afghanistan leaving their puppets in "Kabulistan" headed by Ghani, offering the government and the army to provide their protection - on their own !!!
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      but do not entertain the illusion that the Russian Federation and the PRC are up to the American level of readiness, as they say, to cut and cut.

      Nobody cheers, they just state the fact that all the victories of the mattresses were won on one condition - they attacked only those who are obviously weaker.
      1. 0
        July 11 2021
        The Vietnam War was like this for a minute already almost half a century ago. Of course, for some it is still "fresh and relevant", but in reality it is not.
        I would like to ask - how did you imagine a "victory" in Afghanistan? What, for example, would the Americans "take Kabul" with the Taliban leaders, who would get drunk together in a bunker, then arrange a parade, salute and unconditional surrender?) Any clearly defined goal that they set in Afghanistan was carried out, the "enemy" suffered losses in stacks, everything objects that made sense to destroy were destroyed, various bearded men of high levels were destroyed. What were the Americans to do? military to win? The collapse in Afghanistan was not the US army or the US supplies, but the peace planning of that country. Washington diplomats and analysts are infinitely far from understanding how to instill in a medieval and impoverished society, completely alien to the West, stable Western values ​​or even their individual, most viable parts. Like us, at one time they hoped that "time heals", and that everything by itself, like a thread, will settle down and be organized, and they only need to "support", but alas, it doesn't work like that there.

        All the victories of the Americans were won on condition that there was a certain structural organization and / or a set of tasks and key goals, the implementation / destruction of which impeded control by this antagonistic organization, or contributed to the establishment of control of the US forces or their satellites. If the satellites are outright undead (South Vietnam, Kabul government) or if the destruction of the structure, order, or key objects is IMPOSSIBLE due to their absence - "victory" in such conditions can be won in only one way, in Genghis Khan's way. Was the US interested in clearing and seizing Afghan territory? Did not have. When they had such an interest in Indian territories, they took over and didn't choke.
        1. +1
          July 11 2021
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          "victory" in such conditions can only be won in one way, in Genghis Khan's way.

          Yes. A third of the population is destroyed physically (men and boys), a third of the population is moved to the controlled regions, in their place are settled by loyal tribes and peoples. This is the only way to conquer such regions.
        2. +2
          July 11 2021
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          The Vietnam War was like this for a minute already almost half a century ago.
          As a matter of fact, I wrote about the same
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          46 years have passed and....... what do we see? "" "the most experienced and" theoretically "the most worked-out aircrafts on the planet in terms of a set of parameters" "" ingloriously getting on their skis, skidding from Afghanistan

          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          I would like to ask - how did you imagine a "victory" in Afghanistan? What, for example, would the Americans "take Kabul" with the Taliban leaders, who would get drunk together in a bunker, then arrange a parade, salute and unconditional surrender? What did the US military have to do to win?

          Mattresses have been spent well over a trillion dollars in this 20-year war. With this money, they could buy all the elders along with sheep and donkeys, depriving the Taliban of the most important thing - the support of the population, without which any guerrilla war is doomed to destruction. But they went the other way, namely, what you indicated -
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          Any clearly defined goal that they set in Afghanistan was fulfilled, the "enemy" suffered losses in stacks, all objects that made sense to destroy were destroyed, various bearded men of high levels were destroyed.
          The local population got to the pile under the distribution, over the corpses of which the "gallant" American soldiers mocked, filming how they relieve the bodies of the murdered, which got into the social network. This contributed to the fact that the Taliban had everything, as in the famous fable by I. Krylov about a dragonfly and an ant - "And under each bush, there was a table and a house ready."
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          The collapse in Afghanistan was not the US army or US supplies - it was the peace planning of that country.
          And yet the army collapsed. Peaceful post-war planning is not an American feature at all, and chaos and devastation reigns wherever Americans appear.
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          Was the US interested in clearing and seizing Afghan territory?
          No, yoklmn, they rented it with a complete lack of interest for 20 years. request
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          When they had such an interest in Indian territories, they took over and didn't choke.
          For a minute, the Indians were not the Americans, but the Europeans, of whom the Americans were formed as a nation. To the same to the Indians, armed with bows and arrows, they still pinned themselves with cannons and muskets, which once again confirms only that they defeated only those who are obviously weaker. What, in fact, I wrote about, and you once again confirmed this thesis.
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          all mattress victories were won on one condition - they attacked only those who are obviously weaker.
    4. 0
      July 11 2021
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      Americans are very fond of being pity on the pages of their publications, in the Russian Federation, in this regard, they usually gush with pride or malice, completely forgetting that publications are commercial in an environment of pluralism of opinions


      Usually, such items are subject to the adoption of the military budget. When you switch to real numbers, the picture is different.




      Moreover, the list basis of the Air Force of India / China / Russia is made up of MiG-21, Su-24/25 and others like them. Really modern fighters of ~ 250 pieces, which is comparable to ~ 180 F-22 without armada F-15/16/18/35.
    5. 0
      July 12 2021
      Ready for what?
    6. 0
      July 13 2021
      One question. How did the level of American training help them in Mogadishu?
  6. +2
    July 11 2021
    This is how the Americans got rid of them in Vietnam and Afghanistan without nuclear weapons. Great warriors, ful. From Vietnam they are still thrown up. And hammering the weak is their credo.
    1. 0
      July 11 2021
      Rimbaud and Die Hard didn't help ...
  7. HAM
    +6
    July 11 2021
    "..... The hope that new technologies will make it possible to neutralize the reduction in the size of the armed forces did not materialize ...."

    It turns out that wars are not won by money alone ... they also need warriors, oddly enough ...
    1. +2
      July 11 2021
      Here, here, and they have a big problem with this ...
  8. +5
    July 11 2021
    I don’t understand this American if he thinks that the US Armed Forces are weak, why did Russia surrender this Baltic, they need to be fed which will remain. His idea is clear, Russia take the Baltics, but please don’t take Alaska. Well, this is how to see, and if suddenly the United States becomes second-rate country. By the way, I did not say, but the author.
  9. 0
    July 11 2021
    At the same time, he emphasizes that the United States may not have enough strength to prevent the seizure of Taiwan by China or the Baltic states by Russia.

    Why not enough? If the United States places its military bases there in key places, then no one will climb there ...
    reducing the size of the US Armed Forces in order to save money and introduce new technologies, do not allow "on equal terms" to resist even one adversary, such as Russia or China, and even more so

    In terms of general-purpose forces, if we take the Air Force, Navy, ILC and the US Army Defense Forces, the latter are superior to both the PRC and the Russian Federation combined, and if we take the Army and the US NG Air Force, then the latter are superior to the PLA Army ...
    1. +1
      July 11 2021
      Quote: Lara Croft
      In terms of general-purpose forces, if we take the Air Force, Navy, ILC and the US Army Defense Forces, the latter are superior to both the PRC and the Russian Federation combined, and if we take the Army and the US NG Air Force, then the latter are superior to the PLA Army ...

      It seems that your words, IMHO, state - "we will fill up with meat", forgetting that the mattresses tuck in their tail at the first good splash from the enemy. For comparison, read how the company, after being gassed with kicks, drove the regiment into World War I, then think whether everything is decided by "meat" and technologies ...
    2. 0
      July 11 2021
      Quote: Lara Croft
      Why not enough? If the United States places its military bases there in key places, then no one will climb there ...

      Is this about Taiwan? Yes, hell would put on the WB in its own region, China. It will take it out like it will sweep it out with a "shameful" broom.
      As for the Baltic states, we (Russia) don’t care about it for nothing, and we don’t care about the bases. Naturally, it is tempting to have a direct road along the ground with KO. But, the game is not worth the candle.
    3. -1
      July 12 2021
      Outperforming burgers and toilet paper?
  10. +2
    July 11 2021
    To summarize, he demands the restoration of the strength of the US Armed Forces and an increase in the number of military equipment.


    And where to recruit fighters, everyone is preoccupied with finding their gender, more than 5 dozen how to navigate here ... lol
  11. +1
    July 11 2021
    The fact that the United States is not able to fight with an equal has been known for a long time. The reduction in the number is not significant. They recruited rabble into the army, normal people do not go there, they are used to fighting the weak, they become too hungry, they spend money on nonsense.
    I don’t understand one thing, but why does Russia need the Baltics or Poland? The territory of Russia is not needed, access to the Baltic Sea is not needed, the economy is so-so, and it is tied to the West. Feed a bunch of idiots at your own expense?
  12. +5
    July 11 2021
    Firstly, they are unable to fight even with the unequal, such as the Taliban and the Houthis, and secondly, the reduction in numbers has absolutely nothing to do with it. Corruption and belief in advertising finished you off. Women in the sun - politically correct? So we'll shoot Jane's soldiers in Hollywood and stuff them anywhere as untouchable - as a result, the Fitzgerald destroyer cuts into a container ship, because two guys on the bridge had a fight, one sees the container ship, but the other didn't say, because "she's a chicken and her curves "
    1. 0
      July 11 2021
      Quote: Cowbra
      As a result, the destroyer Fitzgerald cuts into a container ship because the two guys on the bridge had a fight

      In any self-respecting "democratic" empirical country, you would be sued for sexism, but like that ....
      film Jane's soldier in Hollywood

      A good film, Demi Moore played great there, of course she is far from Angelina Jolie in the role of Lara Croft, but still ...
  13. +3
    July 11 2021
    American edition: the US Armed Forces are unable to fight an equal enemy

    It's hard to disagree here. After WWII, the United States showed itself either in the role of a bully aggressor with third countries that did not even have their own production of modern weapons (Korea, Cuba, China, Laos); or initiators of economic repression in order to break the will (DPRK, Cuba); or as a leader of coalitions to establish control in the region.
    Therefore, the White House needs to restore the US Armed Forces to the state, in which they can wage a long warrather than short.

    It is unlikely that with a sufficient number of hypersonic weapons, the war will be long. It may turn out that in a week there will be no one to fight. The sale of weapons, after the sale of drugs and prostitution, is a very profitable business. And here, the main thing is to shave off everything that has bright packaging and advertising, albeit of low quality.
  14. +2
    July 11 2021
    As grandfather Lenin said - "Comrades are going the right way!" On my own I would add - "Good bye America!"
  15. +3
    July 11 2021
    Well, China seems to need Taiwan, but why does Russia need the Baltics? We, without them, do not live badly.
    And they, without us, now barely survive. I'm not sure that they will crawl to us on their knees, most likely they will shit on Russia until their complete extinction.
  16. 0
    July 11 2021
    and a successful Russian invasion of the Baltics will destroy NATO, the author writes

    Why are they smoking there ?? what Or do they drink ?? request
  17. +2
    July 11 2021
    U-ha-ha !!! lol And someone, and here on the site, by the way, too, climbs out of his way, crucifies and screams, proving how technologically advanced America is, great and invincible, and their weapons and warriors in general have overtaken everyone by 40-50 years! And it turns out that this is how things really stand for them !!!))))))) laughing
    And this is also, if you do not read the official reports of the Pentagon and the studies ordered by it, on the topic of the real state of affairs in the American army, starting at least from 2015 to the present time. hi
    1. +1
      July 11 2021
      No, I understand that the article in Defense News was written by a hired journalist to justify some new military budget programs and their financing. And not very distant. For the contingent withdrawn from Afghanistan must be packed somewhere or returned to the metropolis, tens of thousands of fighters are freed up for the "defense of America".
      But when their homebrews buy such articles about the weakness of the main enemy and begin to hoot in joy, it becomes a pity that you cannot put your brains into someone else's head. Firstly, it is impossible for medical reasons, and secondly, it's a pity already.
      Vasya-20, you may even have served, but in the ground forces, which do not have direct contact with the enemy, unlike pilots and sailors, and did not deal with ... coverage of the situation. But believe me, when you walk on the sea for 7, 10, 20 days and understand that every minute of these days you can become an object of precise target designation, you are monitored continuously, the mood "to run your nose on these unhappy adversaries" does not arise, but that most realism. And realism teaches that only a fool laughs at the enemy. And a potentially dead fool.
  18. +1
    July 11 2021
    Everything is calculated on provocations and to fight the Papuans. In Afghanistan, they sat behind a concrete wall for 20 years, rested and fled.
  19. -2
    July 11 2021
    Where can I get him - an equal enemy then
  20. 0
    July 11 2021
    In the mid-tenths, the strength of the Armed Forces of Russia and the United States was approximately equal, and then Russia moved forward, and every year it only increases its advantage. Moreover, at such a pace, the United States will soon lose its 2nd place, giving way to China.
  21. +1
    July 11 2021
    One gets the impression that the author is calling to prepare for the "last war"
  22. +1
    July 11 2021
    So they are not very unequal. Bribe, bet on traitors, that's all. And if you can't buy, then they fly by.
  23. -1
    July 11 2021
    Sproto target designation. They will avenge the Tribals, then ...
  24. 0
    July 12 2021
    Why should Russia seize the Tribaltic? They degrade by themselves and destroy themselves. All you have to do is do nothing but just watch. laughing It's like Kwangi in Zvyagintsev's "Odysseus Leaves Ithaca" - a dead-end branch of development, - a world line closing in on itself wassat
  25. +1
    July 12 2021
    victory of European champions, force of Italy good
    1. 0
      July 12 2021
      dude, we congratulate you.))) tell you how sober))) I look at your grandiose celebrations. how did you not qualify for the 2018 World Cup? ... I guessed about Mancini, instead of a mustache we buy him. Well, my bet shot 1 -11 on the champ
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  27. American warriors - killers of women, children, old people !!!
  28. 0
    July 12 2021
    The final conclusion of the article is that the United States now has two scares for its taxpayers - Russia and China.
    Therefore, the White House needs to restore the US Armed Forces to a state in which they can wage a long war, not a short one. To summarize, he demands the restoration of the strength of the US Armed Forces and an increase in the number of military equipment.

    Curiously, the US military budget is the largest in the world, and with a noticeable gap from other countries. The author proposes to pour even more money into the conditions of a severe economic crisis?
    Failure to confront China in the Asia-Pacific region could lead to the demotion of the United States to a second-rate military power
    Why should they be first-rate? It is expensive and troublesome, it would be better if they took up their own economy.
  29. 0
    July 12 2021
    The United States is also trying to prevent the emergence of equal states ...

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