Rostec confirms the large combat radius of the Hunter UAV

In Russia, work continues on the first attack UAV of the heavy class C-70 "Okhotnik". At the moment, flight tests of a prototype of an unmanned bomber are underway.

Most of the technical characteristics of the promising apparatus remain classified. However, Vladimir Artyakov, deputy general director of Rostec, shared some details with reporters.

According to the functionary, our UAV surpasses foreign analogues in a number of characteristics. In particular, the "Hunter" will receive wider functionality (which is not specified) and a large combat radius. In addition, thanks to AI elements, the S-70 will be able to exchange data and correct actions with the Russian fifth-generation fighter Su-57, as well as other drones.

Earlier, the first deputy chairman of the board of the military-industrial complex, Andrei Yelchaninov, reported that a full-fledged serial version of a heavy UAV would begin to be supplied to the troops in 2024. In the current tests, in his words, only a technology demonstrator is involved.

By the way about the latter. The S-70 made its first flight in early August 2019. Then, after 2 months, the "Okhotnik" took off in unmanned mode and worked out interaction with the Su-57. At the moment, the exchange of data between the fighter and the drone is being actively tested, which provides for the possibility of redistributing targets, evading enemy missiles and maintaining the required distance.

Let us recall that the development of the first heavy attack UAV in Russia is being carried out by the Sukhoi Design Bureau. Open sources indicate that the takeoff weight of the vehicle is 20 tons. The length of the drone reaches 19 meters with a wingspan of 14 meters, which is comparable to the dimensions of the Su-57.

In one of his speeches, Russian President Vladimir Putin stated that a domestic drone will be able to carry up to 6 tons of payload, cover a distance of about 6 thousand km and rise to an altitude of 18 km.

Comments

[Artyom Karagodin]

If this is not bravado, but the real state of affairs, then the news is great. But in any case, the creation of such a drone is a success for the domestic aircraft industry, even if not everything is as rosy as we are told. This allows you to at least gain experience.

[Orange bigg]

The news is good, but the data on performance characteristics differ. Good luck in testing and faster in operation.

.Tactical and technical characteristics of the "Hunter" are not disclosed. However, in the Russian media you can find information that its mass is 20 tons, the maximum range is 3,5 thousand km, the maximum speed is 920 km / h, and the flight altitude is up to 10,5 km. Without refueling, the UAV can stay in the air for more than a day.

According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, reconnaissance is the primary task of the Hunter. The drone is equipped with appropriate optical-electronic and radio-technical means. In an interview with RT, the commercial director of the Arsenal of the Fatherland magazine, Alexei Leonkov, suggested that the drone was intended, among other things, to deliver strikes. In his opinion, missiles and bombs can be placed inside the hull.

“This device is designed to perform reconnaissance and strike missions. The Hunter will mainly engage ground targets, but its arsenal will likely include air-to-air missiles. I don't think any special ammunition is being developed for it. Taking into account the weight and size characteristics of the "Okhotnik", it will be able to use bombs and missiles, which are in service with the Aerospace Forces, including the latest samples, "Leonkov explained.

The expert believes that the "Hunter" will be able to carry out long-range reconnaissance flights and deliver pinpoint strikes. According to Leonkov, the Russian defense industry has already developed equipment to carry out these missions. After the completion of state tests, the drone will join the Aerospace Forces.

https://russian.rt.com/russia/article/655955-ohotnik-bespilotnik-ispytaniya

And more news about the domestic aircraft industry.

On July 5, 2021, during a visit by Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Yuri Borisov to PJSC Voronezh Joint-Stock Aircraft Building Company (PJSC VASO, part of the transport aviation division of PJSC United Aircraft Building Corporation of Rostec State Corporation), a rollout took place at the plant's flight test station the next Il-96-300 aircraft built by VASO.

“Today VASO is provided with orders from federal agencies under the Il-96-300 program. There are 4 machines in production in varying degrees of readiness and there are prospects for additional loading of the enterprise with new contracts. The production of a new passenger Il-96-400M is underway. This program will allow developing the platform and the modernization potential of the aircraft, as well as ensuring the development of competencies for the creation of this type of aircraft, ”said Yuri Borisov.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4346041.html

[Artyom Karagodin]

Thank you, Alexander, for the appendage. Considering that the "Hunter" has a rather large practical ceiling (they call 18 km, but it is not yet known for sure, it is only clear that everything should be very good), that he is a scout in the first place, so maybe such flying antennas like AWACS? It is clear that without operators on board, it will not fully replace the AWACS as a flying command post, but it would be nice to think over something new on its basis in return. Like operators fly somewhere very far from the battlefield and get information from the S-70, which (which) is much closer to the "front line".

Maybe someone in the subject will enlighten me if I hit my dreams hard or not))))?

[El Chuvachino]

Error at the very beginning: Hunter is not a scout in the first place)

[OgnennyiKotik]

If you want to know what the performance characteristics will be, just look at the analog from 2011. The difference, if any, will be small. There are no miracles.

The main characteristics of "X-47B":
- The length of the hull 11.6 meter;
- wing span 19 meters;
- height 3.1 meter;
- The mass of unloaded UAV 6.4 tons;
- maximum take-off weight 20 tons;
- The mass of ammunition 2 tons;
- average flight speed 530 km / h;
- maximum speed over 900 km / h;
- practical 12 ceiling kilometers.

Quote: Artyom Karagodin

that he is a scout in the first place, so maybe such flying antennas like AWACS will appear on his base?

It is the S-70 that is not well suited for this. He is generally an extremely narrowly specialized machine. The aircraft is too expensive and the flying wing is too limited. The S-70 is only suitable for stealth attacks and passive reconnaissance. Everything else that they are trying to impute in propaganda will not be realized. As a platform for technology development it is quite possible.

Sukhoi had a different project, more suitable for the role of a mass, universal machine. It is a pity that they did not give development. Now showiness is more important than efficiency.

[Artyom Karagodin]

Thanks again!

[El Chuvachino]

And not a day will pass that the "fiery propagandist" does not pretend to be a specialist in the news about Russian weapons, issuing performance characteristics from some left Western "analogue" and lamenting, they say, better than there will be. I hasten to upset. Will be.

[VO3A]

We hit our dreams very hard ...

In addition, thanks to the elements of AI, the S-70 will be able to exchange data and correct actions with the Russian fifth-generation fighter Su-57, as well as other drones.

What does AI have to do with being able to share data ?! No !!!
Enough to carry complete nonsense and constantly !!! For idiots, any UAV should provide target designation to all new Su-type aircraft in real time and yesterday, and not exchange data ... And this should be yesterday, like many other things ...

[Zaurbek]

Seems like the truth:
1. Flying wing
2. Weapons inside
3. There is no pilot and systems for him ....
4. Not a fighter ....

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Zaurbek

Seems like the truth:
1. Flying wing
2. Weapons inside
3. There is no pilot and systems for him ....
4. Not a fighter ....

Well, how can I say not a fighter. There is information that it can use air-to-air missiles.

... Russian heavy attack drone S-70 "Okhotnik" has tested air-to-air missiles. Probably, he is destined for the role of not only a bomber, but also a fighter-interceptor, writes the American edition of The Drive.

.It became known that the "Okhotnik" for the first time carried out flight tests, having made several sorties with new ammunition. They were carried out at the Ashuluk training ground in the Astrakhan region of Russia. Details are not yet known, but if this is true, then this will be a significant step for the Russian Aerospace Forces, which expect to adopt it in service in 2024.

Testing at the location indicated is not a surprise. There is the 185th Center for Combat Training and Combat Use. This is the only facility of its kind in Russia. There, it was possible to create conditions as close as possible to combat ones, using air defense and electronic warfare systems, as well as the air of a simulated enemy.

The Okhotnik was equipped with mock-ups that simulate air-to-air missiles as much as possible. They had all the necessary characteristics and homing heads (infrared and radar). The mock-ups did not have engines and a warhead, but they were not needed during tests without launches.

The main means of close combat in the RF Aerospace Forces are the R-73 and R-74M missiles. The K-74M2 is in development, which will be equipped with the fifth generation Su-57 fighters. These missiles will be launched from the inner compartments of the Su-57, so there is a possibility that they are suitable for the "Okhotnik".

The main medium-range weapons are the R-77 and R-77-1 missiles. At the same time, the K-77M missile is being tested, which is also intended for the internal compartments of the Su-57.

https://topcor.ru/17635-chto-za-rakety-nes-tjazhelyj-ohotnik-na-ispytanijah.html

[Zaurbek]

"Not a fighter" is:
1. Not maneuverable aircraft ...
2. Lack of its powerful radar ....
3. Lack of afterburner
4. Absence of supersonic sound.

And launching some kind of rockets is a launcher ...

[Achilles]

Quote: Zaurbek

"Not a fighter" is:
1. Not maneuverable aircraft ...
2. Lack of its powerful radar ....
3. Lack of afterburner
4. Absence of supersonic sound.

And launching some kind of rockets is a launcher ...

The fact is that the air-to-air missile "Gremlin" is now being developed, and now there is a prototype of the engine. While the project is being implemented under the code "item 70". Presumably, with this engine, the maximum speed of a new hypersonic missile with a range of up to 1500 km can reach Mach 5-6, that is, 5 times the speed of sound.
Just imagine with such a S-70 "Okhotnik" missile and it turns out he will not need a powerful radar, all targets will be illuminated by a satellite or ground installations or an over-the-horizon radar, he also does not need afterburner and oversound, ie. why all this that you listed, if he will be able (i.e. missile on board) to destroy a target at a distance of 1500 km, and even a missile on hypersonic

[Zaurbek]

This is all PU ... so the characteristics are enough for long flights.

[Bratkov Oleg]

This is a typical American fighter. He does not know how to maneuver, he launches missiles from afar ... But in the USA it is a super fighter, and you have a launcher?

[Zaurbek]

Where in the USA is a fighter - a flying wing? F117 something similar ...

[knn54]

The cost of SERIAL samples of the newest C-70 attack drone should be about 1 billion rubles.
"Hunter" is not cheap.
Although the cost of RQ-4B Global Hawk, which regularly patrol near the borders of Russia, reaches $ 123 million apiece (8,4 billion rubles).

[Alex777]

The cost of SERIAL samples of the newest C-70 attack drone should be about 1 billion rubles.
"Hunter" is not cheap.

Judging by the characteristics, we are talking about the fact of an unobtrusive bomber. 6 tons is a lot.
Not a cheap pleasure in the modern world.

[AC130 Gunship]

Why compare the incomparable? The salary of an ordinary worker (who graduated from school at best) at an aircraft assembly plant in the United States is about $ 40-70 per hour. The work of a development engineer at some Rytheon is $ 100-140 per hour. This is how the price is set at $ 123M per piece ...

[Zaurbek]

There is no longer any cheap weapon in Russia .... and in China too .... everyone wants to eat well, electronics are not cheap.

[Mountain shooter]

A powerful and dangerous bird. Strengthens the potential of the Su-57 at least twice.

[dauria]

A powerful and dangerous bird.

One thing is alarming .... The XB-47 was at least as good as it was. He took off and landed on an aircraft carrier, refueled, flew along the route. And was rejected Why?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: dauria

And was rejected Why?

I ought to ask them! Maybe they did something wrong?

[Zaurbek]

They have a competition ..... recently they wrote that someone won it. But their main task is the refueller. Landing on an aircraft carrier

[El Chuvachino]

Because it's useless with its range and a couple of JDAMs on board.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: dauria

Why

Expensive. Too narrow specialization.

Here is the MQ-25 that defeated the X-47B. The price is much lower, the design is much simpler. Serial production is not a problem. While the tanker, but instead of tanks, you can make compartments for weapons and / or hang on pylons. Any armament: radar, electronic warfare, RTR, bombs, missiles, etc.

And other "relatives" did not go into the series. Although they also carried out the entire test cycle:

X-45, USA, first flight 2002.

nEUROn, France, 2012

Taranis, England, 2013

[Barberry25]

because they wanted a full-fledged fighter .. And ours offer it as a drummer. Not to mention the fact that, as a Palubnik, the 47th is very bad .. For with 2 tons of load, namely 2 bombs, it replaces the Super Hornet with 4,5 tons of bombs and missiles

[Orange bigg]

Quote: dauria

A powerful and dangerous bird.

One thing is alarming .... The XB-47 was at least as good as it was. He took off and landed on an aircraft carrier, refueled, flew along the route. And was rejected Why?

Fryer's greed was ruined. In addition, there is a traditional struggle for the budget between many projects. They counted, wept shorter.

the fact is that for the US Navy, the unmanned aircraft X-47B was a kind of experiment. Of course, everyone understands that the prospect of the combat use of such vehicles could significantly increase the strike and reconnaissance potential of an aircraft carrier group.

To date, the US Navy has so far decided to abandon the idea of ​​creating a heavy attack unmanned aircraft of this type, and instead they have ordered several unmanned tankers.

Under the terms of the contract, in the next few years, Boeing is to supply 7 unmanned MQ-25 tanker aircraft.

Most likely, from the serial production of heavy unmanned strike aircraft, the US Department of Defense was deterred by their potentially high cost.

According to some reports, the price of one serial copy of the X-47B UAV is the same as the cost of one 5th generation fighter, which is about $ 100 million per unit.

.Northrop Grumman X-47B - Length: 11,63m, Wingspan: 18,92m, UAV Height: 3,10m, Aircraft Weight: 6,35t, Maximum Takeoff Weight: 20,2t, Payload Weight 2 tons, power turbojet: 1 × Pratt & Whitney F100-220 with a thrust of 8 tons, maximum speed: 990 km / h, cruising speed: 535 km / h, maximum range: 3900 km, service ceiling: 12 km.

... Dassault nEUROn is a reconnaissance and attack unmanned bomber aircraft developed by the French corporation Dassault Aviation, including jointly with other European companies such as Saab AB, RUAG Aerospace, etc. In 2005, it was first shown to the general public at the Paris Air Show.

https://zen.yandex.ru/media/parallel56/pochemu-v-ssha-reshili-otkazatsia-ot-sozdaniia-tiajelogo-udarnogo-bespilotnogo-samoleta-boeing-x47b-5ee8c1a72ab5ff06f3a80e96

[dauria]

the price of one production copy of the X-47B UAV is the same as the cost of one 5th generation fighter,

That's just it ... And our Hunter does not look like a "consumable". Moreover, we are doing land, and not sea. Of course, unmanned technologies need to be worked out. Done and done, it's good. They started talking about the episode only early, I think. Until the electronics are able to fully replace the pilot in the mission, the UAV should remain cheap. Here he will go to a refueller, but as a drummer, we will get ripped apart without tangible benefit.

[Orange bigg]

... Here he will go to a refueller, but as a drummer, we will rip apart without tangible benefit.

Quite the opposite. For a tanker, it is unreasonably expensive and ineffective, but as a reconnaissance and strike heavy UAV, that's the thing. Again, this is the future. I think the Hunter, like the Su-57, will be able to carry the Kh-59MK2, Kh-31AD / Kh-31PD KR in the internal compartments.

. Only early on about the series started talking, I think.

The task was set to launch mass production in 2024. Why early? The faster the better.

MOSCOW, August 3. / TASS /. Serial deliveries of the latest heavy attack stealth drone Okhotnik to the Russian Ministry of Defense will begin by 2024. The head of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), Yuri Slyusar, reported this to Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday.

“We received the task from the Ministry of Defense to speed up the development work, to move it to the left as much as possible, so that deliveries would start already in 2024. Therefore, we are now actively working on this issue with our colleagues,” Slyusar said.

He recalled that the "Okhotnik" has unprecedented capabilities, the device has the largest combat range among Russian drones, the widest range of weapons, the widest range of equipment.

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/9109873

[dauria]

but as a reconnaissance and strike heavy UAV, the very thing

What kind of war is this? Again "low intensity" .... No, it should be "consumable". Returned - surprised and equipped again. Something like a carbon-fiber technological airframe with a low-resource engine, which solves the problem of dragging ammunition in two or four adjustable five hundred, to open and divert air defense to oneself, to strike at a previously reconnoitered ground target. And if you're lucky, come back. But not "Hunter".

[Orange bigg]

... No, it must be a "consumable". Returned - surprised and equipped again.

Now is not the time of the Second World War with their numerous air battles and a large number of aircraft as consumables.

... Something like a carbon-fiber technological glider with a low-resource engine, which solves the problem of hauling ammunition, opening and diverting air defense, hitting a previously reconnoitered ground target. And if you're lucky, come back.

I think it will be so in the future. But not right now. Technologies are not yet so strongly developed to make at the same time cheap, and high quality, and a lot. So far, technologies are only being mastered in this direction on the same Hunter. The first steps are being taken.

[dauria]

I think it will be so in the future. But not right now.

Quite the opposite. Now - just a flying pylon for weapons, sticking to hell on the horns .. Later, with the development of AI - a full-fledged expensive aircraft without a pilot. But again with a bunch of cheap flying pylons.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Your reasoning is correct. That is why the United States, Britain, France, Australia, Turkey, etc. have concentrated on cheap, simple jet UAVs.

[AC130 Gunship]

The Xb47 was originally designed as a technology demonstrator. Now hangs beautifully in a museum in Washington DC

[Bratkov Oleg]

The United States flew into space, for the first time, in 1981, but everyone is being told that they almost did not have time to fly before Gagarin, but they visited the moon. Ask why they are lying.

[Mouse]

In short ...
It is clear that nothing is clear ...

[novel66]

but ... it flies, and it pleases!

[Mouse]

What doesn't float .... that's for sure

[novel66]

oh, Vasya, we don't know everything ... maybe he swims ..

[Mouse]

And in the air, and on the ground, and even under water - that's what he is!

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

Confused by not adhering to the principle of building a link - different speed characteristics, to pair a subsonic drone and a s / z fighter - a cart in front of a horse?

[babackov.eu]

Will it fly to Kiev and home?

[Orange bigg]

Quote: babackov.eu

Will it fly to Kiev and home?

And what's the point of flying to Kiev, if the European partners there and destroy everything without us, from the economy and factories to the army? Kiev is not in business at all. Let them slurp their decommunization to the full, maybe they will grow wiser over time. Although what am I talking about. We all went through this in the 90s.

[Ros 56]

May God grant us good luck in this area.

[Pico]

Today the Turks said that the UAV Akinci
stayed in the air for 25 hours 46 minutes, reached an altitude of 11,6 km and flew 7507 km without refueling.
By the way, Ukrainian engines AI-450T.

[HZ66]

Certainly this success. Even despite the characteristics in the comments, which are more reminiscent of "Russian folk tales".

[iouris]

What's inside him?

[sgapich]

Quote: iouris

What's inside him?

And inside she has a neon ... And a thinker ...
(the quote is not accurate)

[Rusnemez]

What are you arguing about in the comments? This is not a Fighter, but a supplement machine for Specific tasks.
Ceiling 18? Okay, for example, at what range can you launch the Planned Adjustable Ammunition from a height of 15-17 km?
And if, for example, A 50 leads and a pair of twos attacks AUG?
The device is Shock by design, what are its Main Chips ...? He can rush pretty quickly, blast and quickly dump with a decrease from the affected area.
A shorter Good Apparatus, by weight as LFI, given the secrecy of the filling, may surprise the "Experts".

[xorek]

It looks beautiful and menacing, although its performance characteristics are practically unknown .. Well, right!
News after news today, thank you!

[Joker62]

Quote: Artyom Karagodin

If this is not bravado, but the real state of affairs, then the news is great.

No, this is not bravado, but reality. After replacing the second stage engine (product 30), the range and thrust-to-weight ratio increased. The test will continue until the end of this year.

[sevryuk]

Quote: Pico

By the way, Ukrainian engines AI-450T.

By the way, the engines are Soviet.

[MrFox]

How much is big?

[leon1204id]

The longer they do, the more noticeable it is. The development of AWACS and electronic warfare means not only in our country, but in the USA, Israel, Great Britain, China. If we find our SU57 then ... Good birds and what to do with them? They are not one-time. We started purchasing the terminator in RA. It makes no sense to let them with tanks on the streets of cities. They can catch ATGM even in an open field. So they think that it is better, cheaper and more efficient.