Nuclear submarine "Novosibirsk" and the prospects of the series "Ash-M"

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The lead nuclear submarine pr. 885M during the ceremony of admission to the Navy, May 7, 2021.

The program of construction of promising nuclear submarine cruisers of project 885M "Yasen-M" is being successfully continued. So, on July 1, the newest submarine of this type, K-573 "Novosibirsk", went for sea trials for the first time. This is the first serial ship made according to the project with the letter "M", and the completion of its construction is of great importance for the implementation of the current program and the modernization of the underwater fleet as a whole.

In the recent past


The basic project 885 "Ash" was developed at the turn of the eighties and nineties, and in 1993 the laying of the lead ship "Severodvinsk" took place. A few years later, construction was frozen and resumed only in 2004, using an updated project. In the same period, a deep modernization of "Ash" began under the designation "885M" or "08851". According to this project, it was planned to build all new ships.



On July 24, 2009, the laying of the head Ash-M - K-561 Kazan (serial number 161) took place at the Severnoye Machine-Building Enterprise (Sevmash). The construction took a lot of time, and the ship was launched only on March 31, 2017. Later, new difficulties appeared, which is why it was possible to start the factory sea trials only in September 2018.

The need to correct shortcomings and improve various systems several times led to a shift in delivery dates. As a result, the ship was handed over to the Navy on May 7, 2021. A few weeks later, Kazan made the transition from Severodvinsk to the place of service, in Zapadnaya Litsa.

Nuclear submarine "Novosibirsk" and the prospects of the series "Ash-M"

The ceremony of launching the submarine "Novosibirsk", December 25, 2019

The first serial missile carrier pr. 885M, K-573 "Novosibirsk" (serial number 162), was laid down on July 26, 2013. Having built the previous ships, "Sevmash" mastered and worked out the necessary technologies, thanks to which the work on the "Novosibirsk" proceeded with higher pace. This submarine was launched at the end of December 2019. The next year and a half were spent on the remaining work and preparation for future tests.

On July 1, 2021, Novosibirsk went to sea for the first time. In the coming months, the ship will confirm its handling and maneuverability, check the operation of all onboard systems, and also conduct the first test firing using missile and torpedo weapons. Then, after the necessary preparation, they will undergo state tests. All such events will be completed by the end of the year, and by the beginning of next 2022, the ship is expected to be delivered to the customer.

Soon


The current plans of the Navy provide for the construction of nine "Ash" of two modifications. The lead ship was built according to the original project 885, and all the rest belong to the modernized "885M". Two submarines of different modifications were handed over to the customer and are in service. In a few months a new "Novosibirsk" will join them. Another seven orders are at various stages of construction, incl. at the stage of preparation for launching.

On July 27, 2014 - a year and one day after K-573 - laid down the second production ship Yasen-M, K-571 Krasnoyarsk (serial number 163). Currently, construction work is being completed, and by the end of summer it will be launched. According to the plans, "Krasnoyarsk" will be handed over to the customer by the end of next year.


From 2015 to 2017, one “Ash-M” was laid annually - these are the ships “Arkhangelsk”, “Perm” and “Ulyanovsk” with serial numbers 164-166. All of them are at different stages of construction. They will be launched after 2022-23, with commissioning scheduled for mid-decade.

On July 20, 2020, the last to date ceremony of laying the Ash trees took place, and this time they launched the construction of two submarines at once. Voronezh (serial number 167) and Vladivostok (serial number 168) will be launched after 2025-26, and acceptance acts will be signed in 2027-28.

Submarine cruisers pr. 885 (M) are intended for the Northern and Pacific fleets. The first has already received two new nuclear submarines, and the next pair of ships will go to the Pacific Ocean. In the future, this distribution will remain, and both fleets will receive four "Ash-M".

Clear benefits


Project 885 (M) "Ash" proposes the construction of a 4th generation multipurpose nuclear submarine capable of striking a wide range of underwater, surface and coastal targets. The upgraded Yasen-M differs from the basic submarine in reduced length and displacement, as well as optimized contours. General ship systems and electronic weapons have been updated. Approaches to construction were also changed: in particular, it was possible to switch to only domestic-made components.


The nuclear submarine of pr. 885M is equipped with the Ajax sonar complex with a spherical bow antenna having a maximum area, and several additional antennas in other parts of the hull. Modern CIUS, communication facilities, etc. are used.

Submarines of both modifications are armed with 10 533 mm torpedo tubes. Due to the use of a large nasal antenna, the vehicles were moved to the sides of the hull. It is possible to use the entire range of modern domestic samples of mine and torpedo weapons.

A universal missile launcher with eight modules is located in the housing behind the enclosure of the retractable devices. The use of cruise missiles of the "Caliber" family and the anti-ship complexes "Onyx" and "Zircon" is provided. Thanks to this, "Yasen-M" can effectively solve a wide range of combat missions and hit a variety of targets within a radius of hundreds and thousands of kilometers.

Reason for optimism


Unfortunately, since its inception, the Ash project has constantly faced various problems that hindered the fast, complete and high-quality performance of all work. Various shortcomings were identified, construction terms were revised, etc. As a result, to date, only two ships from the planned large series have been able to enter the fleet.


Bookmark of the seventh and eighth "Ash-M". July 20, 2020

Against the background of past events, the last news about "Novosibirsk" become a reason for optimism. This nuclear submarine was built in six and a half years, and another year and a half was needed for testing - which, according to plans, will take only six months. Thus, the first serial "Yasen-M" sets a kind of record in the construction program of project 885.

The latest news about the Kazan and Novosibirsk submarines shows that Sevmash and related enterprises have successfully coped with all the problems and difficulties that occurred earlier. Now the shipbuilders are ready for the full-scale construction of serial Yasenei-M, and already several of these submarines are simultaneously on the stocks at different stages of construction.

So far, there is every reason for optimism, and one can expect that the newest "Novosibirsk" will pass factory and state tests within the specified timeframe. In addition, it should be considered that the construction of all new submarines of project 885M will proceed with maximum compliance with the established schedule, without serious deviations. Accordingly, no later than 2027-28. The two fleets of the Russian Navy will include two full-fledged groupings of modern multipurpose missile submarines.

However, even after debugging production and correcting the existing shortcomings, the construction of nuclear submarines remains a complex, expensive and time-consuming process. Each new "Ash-M" will take about 7-8 years, and the planned series will be completed only by the end of the decade. However, the positive consequences of such construction are obvious - and it must be continued, using all available opportunities and accumulated experience.
  • Ryabov Kirill
  • Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, "USC"
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  1. +13
    July 9 2021
    Ash trees are definitely good submarines. But. Difficult and expensive. The Americans, at one time, also followed this path from the beginning, creating the Sea Wolves. But after calculating the costs and analyzing the situation in the world, we developed a more "simple" one (in quotes because with each modification the Virgin becomes more complicated) but still cheaper Volchary. We need a more massive series. If in terms of quality we are not inferior, then in terms of quantity it is simply a disaster. In addition to Virginias, Sea Wolves, the Americans also have an overdof of Los Angeles ... Plus the British and French ...
    1. +7
      July 9 2021
      Yes, Ash trees need to be built in a large series, simultaneously reducing the cost and improving the characteristics. It is also necessary to quickly modernize the boats of previous projects, and begin to form two crews per boat. One boat crew, with so many nuclear submarines, is now practically a crime
      1. +4
        July 9 2021
        Quote: Magic Archer
        We need a more massive series.

        Here, the way out is in the massive application of modern concepts of underwater drones for various purposes, which make it possible to turn a large nuclear submarine into a command center with autonomous reconnaissance and combat security systems tied to it.
        1. +2
          July 9 2021
          Here, the way out is in the massive application of modern concepts of underwater drones for various purposes, which make it possible to turn a large nuclear submarine into a command center with autonomous reconnaissance and combat security systems tied to it.

          UAVs are not yet able to replace a full-fledged nuclear submarine, especially since we do not have them anyway.
        2. +2
          July 10 2021
          Quote: scientist
          Quote: Magic Archer
          We need a more massive series.

          Here, the way out is in the massive application of modern concepts of underwater drones for various purposes, which make it possible to turn a large nuclear submarine into a command center with autonomous reconnaissance and combat security systems tied to it.

          Has such a "scientist" found a way to communicate with submarines at high speed?
          And preferably secretive ..
      2. +1
        July 9 2021
        And who said that only one crew goes on board? Or is it from the category of the main thing to write something about something.
      3. +1
        July 10 2021
        Quote: ramzay21
        Yes, Ash trees need to be built in a large series, simultaneously reducing the cost and improving the characteristics. It is also necessary to quickly upgrade the boats of previous projects.

        =======
        Now the "slippers will fly" ... 885M is a cool thing! They need (just - it is NEEDED!) To be built ...
        But it seems to me that it would not hurt to think about more simple, cheap and massive nuclear submarine! Even with more modest indicators (except for "noisiness") .... Which would be a good addition to the "ash"!
        Maybe I'm wrong ........
    2. +5
      July 9 2021
      I think it is necessary to build a series of Ash trees, and in addition to them, a massive diesel engine with vneu. We still have a lot of coastal areas with shallow depths and money, not like the Americans.
      1. -3
        July 9 2021
        And beyond what the coast, if the enemy will not act there.
        1. 0
          July 9 2021
          Oh really? All to the Atlantic? wassat
          1. -3
            July 9 2021
            Yes, one thing is clear, you do not understand this topic
            1. +1
              July 9 2021
              Israel entrusts the NNS with the task of delivering a "retaliation strike" against Iran. And not through Suez, but around Africa.
              The PLO of our bases is also a very, very important task.
              So we certainly need the right NNMs.
              1. +1
                July 9 2021
                the flood will not solve the problems poorly, it is decided by the aviation and surface fleet. Now the rockets fly very far, so no one will approach the bases. But the autonomy of nuclear submarines is much greater. I had a midshipman in my crew with an autonomous system of 120 days.
                1. +3
                  July 9 2021
                  the flood will not solve the problems poorly, it is decided by the aviation and the surface fleet.

                  And if the weather turns bad? Quite often this happens both in the Northern Fleet and in the Pacific Fleet.
                  How to provide an SSBN exit?

                  But the autonomy of nuclear submarines is much greater.

                  So the noise, and the price is higher.
                  And the autonomy of the correct submarines is already very, very decent.
                  The example of Israel demonstrates this.
                  1. +1
                    July 9 2021
                    By autonomy, you forget about, let's say, the crew's habitat (food, rest, let's say). The fleet, on the other hand, will not wait for the day of the declaration of war; it leaves the bases at the pre-war moment of relations. Just the cruiser leaves the base when exporting ammunition and aviation, and then hides in the sea and here the main thing is autonomy.
                    1. +4
                      July 9 2021
                      By autonomy, you forget about, let's say, the crew's habitat (food, rest, let's say).

                      I do not forget. Why did you decide so?
                      By habitability 941 - a wonderful project was ...
                      Its detection by aviation is a solvable problem.
                      To make the conversation more substantive, I will formulate my point of view:
                      1. undoubtedly, APRKSN (Borei) and PLAKR (Ash) are necessary and good for their tasks,
                      2.there is a number of tasks that it is advisable to solve by forces the right NAPL.
                      hi
                      1. 0
                        July 9 2021
                        941 project, that good things went under the water badly, but about the pool and potatoes were poured into the autonomous system. I was on it, a healthy steamer. For KTOF KSF, atomic hunters would be better suited, but for example, these are the Baltic and the Black Sea.
                      2. +3
                        July 9 2021
                        I was on it, a healthy steamer.

                        Well, that means we look at things in about the same way. Yes
                        Atomic hunters would be better suited for KTOF KSF

                        The price of the issue. You need a lot of them at once.
                        I hope for a breakthrough in the NNS in the next 2-3 years.
                        The correct ones in my understanding are similar to the last Japanese. With the possibility of a long run at maximum speed (20-22 knots), VI ~ 3000 t and TLU 10-12 KR.
                        About the Baltic Fleet and the Black Sea Fleet - there is no question. ONLINE only. hi
              2. -1
                July 10 2021
                Quote: Alex777
                Israel entrusts the NNS with the task of delivering a "retaliation strike" against Iran. And not through Suez, but around Africa.

                Ie. You don't know anything about the Eilat base ...
                1. +1
                  July 10 2021
                  Are you saying that the non-submarines are based in Eilat? wink
        2. -1
          July 10 2021
          Including providing access to SSBN service from bases. Control the Kuril and other straits. Service entry in the Black Sea
          1. -1
            July 10 2021
            Do you understand what you are writing about? The tasks of launching a diesel SSBN are not exactly solved. This is the task of aviation and the BOD.
            1. +1
              July 11 2021
              My understanding is, frankly, not straightforward. Only on the basis of articles and publications and based on my experience. My VUS commander ENG BCH1, PL pr877.
              1. +2
                July 11 2021
                Well, when did you provide the RPKSN exit? Not right when. And yes, when we found out that we were being followed, they called in the aviation and armored personnel carriers. How can a diesel engine solve these problems if it is simply inferior in speed? Excort rpksn are apl. In the north, this is the animal division. Ash were included in the 11th division, which means that they are faced with a different task.
                1. +1
                  July 12 2021
                  I am not a military sailor, but a civilian. As an option to bring the depl to the area in front of the base within a certain period of time and clean it up?
    3. +1
      July 9 2021
      we have a proven project, if we decide to switch to a new one, then we can get into a situation in time that we will get the same number of nuclear submarines, but with lower performance characteristics. In principle, you can make a mini-version of Ash or rather Borey, but you first need to prepare the project, and then do it, but for now, let them build what they have
    4. 0
      July 9 2021
      We are building a 545 project, it is a shortened Ash tree and that's it.

      https://2020.f.a0z.ru/10/22-9141365-545-image01.jpg?title=545-image01.jpg
  2. +3
    July 9 2021
    This nuclear submarine was built in six and a half years, and another year and a half was needed for testing - which, according to plans, will take only six months.

    However, with this author, everything is as usual, three circles each.
    1. +2
      July 9 2021
      it took a year and a half for testing - which, according to plans, will take only six months

      I re-read this phrase five times, but I did not understand. drinks
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    1. -2
      July 9 2021
      Quote from rudolf
      Ash M series can be at least doubled.

      hi you can triple, if you modify it, to reduce the cost, for example, reduce the amount of pu
      1. +6
        July 9 2021
        The price cannot be reduced by reducing the amount of PU. But if you build not 8, but 4 years, and at the same time, lay every year, as now, so that 4 at once were built in different stages. And also remove the gaskets-suppliers - then yes.
        1. -2
          July 9 2021
          Quote: URAL72
          The price cannot be reduced by reducing the amount of PU.

          belay what do you mean ?? Seriously??
          1. +3
            July 9 2021
            How do you assess the benefits of reducing the number of TLUs?
            The states in Virginias, on the contrary, have increased the number.
            1. -2
              July 9 2021
              Quote: Alex777
              How do you assess the benefits of reducing the number of TLUs?

              benefit? there is no benefit, except for any cost reduction, but where did I write about the PROFIT ?? .... we have a death star with a cosmic price - not rational use of people's money
            2. 0
              July 10 2021
              Quote: Alex777
              How do you assess the benefits of reducing the number of TLUs?
              The states in Virginias, on the contrary, have increased the number.

              Again.
              The VPU is needed by the Americans and only by the Americans.
              In the VPU, they only have tactical Tomahawks.
              Because there is a huge number of nuclear submarines, all the time rubbing near other people's bases.
              And although the main tasks of American nuclear submarines are escorting SSBNs, SSBNs, KUG, AUG ...
              But when the nuclear submarines are sitting near other people's bases in anticipation, they were given a VPU, so that in the case of a BP, they could cause at least some damage to the enemy.
              The British and the French do not have a VPU even on the most modern boats.
              They believe that in terms of the tactics of using nuclear submarines, they do not need these VPUs ...
              Likewise, in fact, we do not need a VPU.
              Our boats don't rub near Keats Up or Norfolk.
              Our boats do not need to launch 10-20 missiles, no matter where ..
              Especially knowing that our nuclear submarines are mainly accompanied by our SSBNs.
              And where, and most importantly, at whom, will our boats fire missiles like Caliber or Zircon if they accompany our SSBNs in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk?

              The presence of a VPU is a flawed goal.
              Highly costly and useless.
              10-20 missiles, even the airfield cannot be destroyed. You need at least 50 ...
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        2. -1
          July 10 2021
          Quote: URAL72
          The price cannot be reduced by reducing the amount of PU. But if you build not 8, but 4 years, and at the same time, lay every year, as now, so that 4 at once were built in different stages. And also remove the gaskets-suppliers - then yes.

          And the tripled metal price will greatly contribute to the cost reduction ...
          Sarcasm
          And almost hyperinflation ...
          Which is now going on and causing a rise in prices for almost everything.
          1. 0
            July 10 2021
            You probably know that you can't buy metal for the nuclear submarine on the stock exchange. In the union, only Mariupol lil. I think it is one plant in Russia even now. Maybe a state one. It should be. The price of the hull is even for submarines no more than 15%, for nuclear submarines - lower. There, one reactor costs more than 50%.
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  4. +3
    July 9 2021
    It is necessary to bring the number of "Ash", as well as "Boreev" up to 2x6 (full divisions). This year, the 9th and 10th buildings of project 955A will be laid.
  5. +5
    July 9 2021
    A typical article by Kirill that lists well-known facts from Wikipedia related to the project, i.e. what was, the list of plans is added what is planned and possibly will happen, and at the end of the article it is told about the complexities of the project, which, nevertheless, do not prevent us from looking to the future with optimism. Actually, having the experience of a rewriter and having a hand in filling the "fish" with materials, every morning you can easily and quickly put together a new article on any topic, in principle, following the same pattern.

    The question is - why do we need this kind of articles in which, in fact, there are no new facts or any serious analysis? If only to initiate the subsequent discussion, then it is not very clear, but what to discuss here in a situation where the article essentially does not offer any subject for discussion.
    1. +14
      July 9 2021
      Quote: A_Lex
      The question is - why do we need this kind of articles in which, in fact, there are no new facts or any serious analysis?

      Dmitry, I just talked with Roman Skomorokhov on this topic ... I learned a lot for myself :))))
      Simply put, a sensible article takes a lot of time and effort. And the site needs a lot of content. That is, if you limit yourself to only high-quality articles, there will be few of them, the site will lose traffic, advertising revenues will fall, and then serious authors will creep in all directions.
      Therefore, consider this kind of content as a necessary evil, which nevertheless allows those who write really good articles to publish them here on "VO" and provides these articles with a large number of views and in-depth discussions.
      That is why, for some time now, I stopped criticizing this kind of article.
      1. +4
        July 9 2021
        Therefore, view this kind of content as a necessary evil, which nevertheless allows those who write really good articles to publish them here.
        Unfortunately, there are good articles every time. And the site is increasingly slipping into something yellow. I have nothing against high-quality pop, but even its amount has decreased significantly. (((
      2. +5
        July 9 2021
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        So treat this kind of content as a necessary evil.

        So this is where the Kamenevs, Staviers and others like them come from .......
    2. 0
      July 9 2021
      Quote: A_Lex
      The question is - why do we need this kind of articles in which, in fact, there are no new facts or any serious analysis? If only to initiate the subsequent discussion, then it is not very clear, but what to discuss here in a situation where the article essentially does not offer any subject for discussion.

      Yes, Kirill has a tendency to repeat himself several times in one article, but for a wide circle of readers who do not delve into the depth of the issue, they are quite informative and have a cognitive effect, so that, having got used to the presentation style, they are quite readable.
  6. +3
    July 9 2021
    Of course, to see a screw on an ash tree is sad. Even on Boreis, water cannons. Plus, we are waiting for the completion of the story with torpedoes and anti-torpedoes
  7. +1
    July 9 2021
    why are our boats of enormous displacement against the American ones with no greater efficiency
  8. +1
    July 11 2021
    Each new "Ash-M" will take about 7-8 years, and the planned series will be completed only by the end of the decade.

    And what about 7-8 years with well-established serial construction?
    In the USSR, the nuclear submarine of pr.941 was built in 5 years, and with well-established serial construction, it took 2 years to build.
  9. 0
    July 11 2021
    It is not clear to me, at VO and not only, it was repeatedly reported about the prospects and the need for water-jet engines. For what reason does this moment not have the slightest development?
  10. +1
    July 13 2021
    Quote: Victor Tsenin
    It is not clear to me, at VO and not only, it was repeatedly reported about the prospects and the need for water-jet engines. For what reason does this moment not have the slightest development?

    Here's from the article:
    The Seawulf water cannon has been extensively tested on several 1/6 to 1/4 scale models at Lake Pend Ouray. Thus, when it came to building the Seawulf, there was already a lot of research supporting the design of the water cannon. And yet the Seawulf water cannon did not achieve the low-frequency high-speed noise performance.

    Well, it is obvious that this is an expensive development. And touched on the screws are already at hand. Ash and so expensive.

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