"The sergeant acted according to instructions": in the USA they comment on the incident at the checkpoint of the military base Mountain Home

In the USA it is discussed story, which happened the other day at the Mountain Home Air Force base in Idaho. In the network there were footage in which an American soldier, who is at the checkpoint, stops a car. After talking with the driver of the car (it turned out to be a 25-year-old pregnant woman), he begins to threaten, then breaks the driver's glass.

After a while, testimonies of the participant of this incident appeared in the media. She calls her name - Tatiana Gonzalez. According to her, she tried to drive to the territory of the base in order to pick up personal belongings "which were not returned by the former spouse." She was denied access, but she continued to insist. Ultimately, the attendant broke the glass of the car, together with his partners, he dragged the woman onto the road (while she also tried to drive to the base with a small child - he was also in the car). After the woman was sent to the isolation ward to clarify the situation.

The command of the airbase explains the incident as follows: a car drove up to the gates of the military facility. After checking the driver's documents, it turned out that “false credentials were presented”. The woman nevertheless made an attempt to break through, hitting the fence. It is added that she "nearly shot down Sergeant Ryan Green of the 366th Security Forces."

From the statement of the command:

Sergeant Green acted in full compliance with the job descriptions.

It became known that after the situation was clarified, the woman who was trying to break into the US Air Force base was released. It turned out that her ex-husband was at the military facility at that time, with whom she wanted to "sort out the relationship." As Gonzalez herself writes in social networks, now "the husband took the child, leaving her without a livelihood." Instead of providing assistance, the base command "did a terrible thing."

The sergeant who broke the glass of the car and pulled the pregnant woman out from behind the wheel said that he did it because the documents she provided "were already invalid" and added that "the woman was verbally aggressive."

The Air Force Base Command notes that there is no investigation into the incident. Tatiana Gonzalez herself was accused of violating the registration rules and "taking actions that endangered the life and health of the child."

Comments

[Vladimir_2U]

Yes, at the behest of his soul, he beats glass! Look what a happy face!

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Yes, at the behest of his soul, he beats glass! Look what a happy face!

I don’t know if the sergeant did the right thing or not, as for me it’s too harsh. However, how would we at the checkpoint react to the former wife of a serviceman (i.e. a civilian) trying to enter the territory of a military unit to take something from there? As far as I remember the rules for the use of weapons, it was allowed (was it?) To use it when attacking a military object using vehicles. Personally, I, being in the outfit, on duty in the park, would never let any kind of lady into the unit.))))

[Moore]

If the ex-madam really rammed the barrage devices (the blood is hot, you can see it by the last name), the sergeant is essentially right. Well, I haven't started firing yet ...
In Russia, in violation of the instructions, they would have called the very Gonzalez at the checkpoint so that they took out the brain to each other, and not to the soldiers in the service.

[Avior]

What else could he do?
An aunt arrived at a military base with a hysterical state, invalid documents, trying to force her way to the military base, ramming the fence.
What should he do?
He broke the glass so that the door, which was locked from the inside, could be opened, took it out and put on handcuffs with his partner. It is difficult to imagine more correct actions when protecting a military base.
He should have done exactly the same, even if he personally knew her (which is not necessary, by the way).
The fact that she is pregnant and with a child does not mean that there could not be explosives in the trunk in order to take revenge on the base and its personnel for a bad husband or weapons for the same purpose, pregnant women, by the way, due to hormonal changes, are even more capable on inadequate actions, especially since, as they say, she came for a showdown with her husband, and not take personal belongings, as she stated.
And pregnant women can detonate or shoot a bomb in the same way as non-pregnant women. And a child in a car is also not an indicator - it is not such a rarity when a mother is ready for the child to die, just to take revenge on her ex-husband, as she imagines. : ((
One can only be surprised that he did not get a weapon - the guy had strong nerves, in overflowing weapons, including short-barreled ones, in the States in such situations, the security and police need to keep weapons ready, you never know how to turn, it didn't cost her anything to keep the pistol in the car shoot at close range this situation, and would not dodge anywhere.

[alstr]

In this case, when such a situation arises, the most correct would be a request to drive off to the parking lot (or roadside) and call the chief of the guard.
And already the chief of the guard must decide the issue of admission or non-admission. Moreover, the admission may not be in the car of an escorted woman.
And my aunt is also a fool. in such situations, you need to come only with a lawyer.

[BABAY22]

I have been on duty many times at a checkpoint at a military air force base, only naturally in the Russian Federation.
Of course I would not let her in. But he would not have smashed windows and dragged women out of cars. It is enough to block the passage, at least with "hedgehogs". And you can calmly say - "No, it is not necessary." And you can't go far through hedgehogs and concrete blocks.
I don't know how it is with them in America, but everything would be quiet and according to the charter.

[Avior]

she rammed the fence and tried to break into the base actually.

[Normal ok]

Quote: BABAY22

I have been on duty many times at a checkpoint at a military air force base, only naturally in the Russian Federation.
Of course I would not let her in. But he would not have smashed windows and dragged women out of cars. It is enough to block the passage, at least with "hedgehogs". And you can calmly say - "No, it is not necessary." And you can't go far through hedgehogs and concrete blocks.
I don't know how it is with them in America, but everything would be quiet and according to the charter.

And I used to be on duty. Back in the days of the USSR. But then no one heard anything about terrorist attacks or mass shootings. And given the current American realities, the measures indicated in the article are quite adequate.

[mmaxx]

Well, this shit would have stood in front of the gate. And interfered with everyone. And so they removed it and no lawyers will help.

[Avior]

what does the nachkar have to do with the checkpoint?
The documents are not in order - he did not miss her.
Started ramming the checkpoint, detained.
She had to turn to the commandant or the head of the base with a statement about the removal of personal belongings.

[BABAY22]

what does the nachkar have to do with the checkpoint?

Do not tell.
Here in our 96th year, the lads came to see someone in the garrison for a showdown. The duty officer naturally did not let me in, reported - an attack on the checkpoint. While bickering back and forth with the bandits, a battered KrAZ arrived with a guard from OBATO. Beginning Kar turned out to be sane, immediately realized what was happening, gave a burst into the air. That was the end of it. They didn’t come again.

[Avior]

it happens.
we had a case when a warrant officer, a checkpoint officer on duty, dispersed the blue, shooting in the air, they sometimes hung around the checkpoint with obscene proposals. The case was hushed up, but they stopped giving a pistol to those on duty at the checkpoint. But that was Soviet peacetime.

[yehat2]

Quote: Avior

But that was Soviet peacetime.

I can't believe that in those days the impudent blue besieged the checkpoint.

[Avior]

Odessa, vc 03232, opposite the entrance to the Breeding Institute, stop with the same name, behind the Ivanovsky bridge, near the airport, 80s.
Not so often it happened, but it happened.

[viktor706]

OBATO is the protection and service of the "flyers", as I understand it OBATO - Оseparate Бatallion Аerodromo-Тtechnical Оcarelessness

[ccsr]

Quote: alstr

In this case, when such a situation arises, the most correct would be a request to drive off to the parking lot (or roadside) and call the chief of the guard.
And already the chief of the guard must decide the issue of admission or non-admission.

Here is a story from the Soviet past, what happens in such cases, and I must note that not always everything is safe and our army was in critical situations:

....... And now, on one of these shifts, the head of the department, V.B., received a report to the officer on duty that the sentry noticed how a cargo ZIL entered the zone along the bypass road, and not a military one, judging by the numbers. Naturally, the duty officer went to the technical area to deal with the incident on the spot, and there, taking the breeder with the guard, went to the indicated point. Indeed, among the trees on some side road, they saw the ill-fated ZIL standing and headed towards it in order to detain the intruder. However, at some point, the car began to move and did not react to the screams to stop. Lieutenant Colonel V.B. gave the order to the guard to open fire and he, pulling the bolt, fired several bullets from the AKM after the leaving car. ZIL immediately stopped, and the servicemen who ran up saw a chauffeur and a woman wounded in the back in the driver's cab, covered in blood and hysteria. I will not elaborate on what happened next, but the woman was rescued, although she received a disability due to an injury and became lame with a deformed spine after the operation.
Naturally, this incident immediately got on the report to Moscow and the whole mechanism immediately started spinning, starting from the investigators of the unit, investigators of the prosecutor's office and ending with the military counterintelligence. In the course of the investigation, it turned out that the collective farm driver drove with his mistress from a neighboring village to a secluded place, not noticing the broken fence of the military unit, and there he committed adultery until he saw the military hurrying towards him in the rear-view mirror. Since he was a family man and was afraid of a scandal, he could not think of anything smarter than how to get under way. In general, everything further is clear - there is a victim, a culprit is needed. It was he who appointed Lieutenant Colonel V.B., since the guard carried out his order, and the investigators found fault with some inaccuracies in the commands given to him, that it was necessary to act in the wrong way, etc. And this promising officer was demoted not one step, but two at once, of course, for "educational" purposes for everyone else (I am sure that 95% of the officers would have done the same in his place in a similar situation) ...

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[Avior]

a lot like a fictional story, sorry
especially since you refer to yourself for some reason ...
If this were real, many had to be imprisoned there - for some reason broken by the fencing of the unit, for fire without warning, for the order to shoot - a lot for that, in short.

[ccsr]

Quote: Avior

a lot like a fictional story, sorry

If you did not serve much in the army, then this is a fictitious story for you, and I and V.B. in one entrance he lived in a military town.

Quote: Avior

If it were real, many had to be imprisoned there - for the part's fencing, broken for some reason,

The unit was built at two sites, and the construction battalions themselves sometimes broke the fence in order not to make a detour through the checkpoint, because there was a large technical zone.

Quote: Avior

for fire without warning,

The first shot was in the air, but the driver did not hear it, but only added gas.

Quote: Avior

for the order to shoot - a lot for what,

An absolutely legitimate order, but the sentry had to be ordered to shoot at the wheels, but this was not done. And this was precisely what was blamed on the duty officer, although in the situation when the car began to abruptly move away, aimed shooting still would not have worked.

Quote: Avior

in short.

In short, you should have served more, and you would have seen such cases in the army.

[Avior]

I served, and therefore I see that in this story the punishment was completely fair - and not on the principle that someone needs to be punished.

The first shot was in the air, but the driver did not hear it, but only added gas.

oh, new details have gone. and there was a shot, and did not hear ...

order the sentry to shoot at the wheels

The sentry is not ordered to shoot if the border of the post is violated.
he has a charter for these purposes - there his actions are spelled out.
and if he is not on duty, he is not a sentry.

construction battalions themselves sometimes broke the fence

if there was no fence, then the question of the unit commander's fault in the first place automatically arises. The woman became disabled, by the way, this is a criminal case of negligence, which led to serious consequences. And then compensation payments from the culprit.

the sentry should have been ordered to shoot at the wheels

There is not the slightest fault of the driver in what happened. He did not break any fence, and did not break anything at all.
The question arises, why did they start shooting at him? Is this part of the duty of the duty officer?
The driver violated the border of the post? This is how the sentry stands for this, he does not need a duty officer to fulfill the charter.
Of course, there could be anything in the army. Only the main character, it turns out, was very lucky that the case was hushed up and he got off so easily, they had to put him and the fighter who fired, too, by the way.
but I never saw any evidence of the story that you published 10 years ago on the site under the rubric of literary stories.

[ccsr]

Quote: Avior

I served, and therefore I see that in this story the punishment was completely fair - and not on the principle that someone needs to be punished.

Well, yes, and if the car had left for some unknown reason, it would not have been found, then he would have been punished for the fact that the offender was not detained with the help of a weapon.

Quote: Avior

oh, new details have gone. and there was a shot, and did not hear ...

This was all in the case file, otherwise they would have gone to court without firing a warning shot.

Quote: Avior

The sentry is not ordered to shoot if the border of the post is violated.

There was no permanent post - only a survey of the perimeter by patrolling along the barbed wire. The posts were in a different place, but in this case the sentry was making a round.

Quote: Avior

if there was no fence, then the question of the unit commander's fault in the first place automatically arises.

You just have no idea what large objects are under construction, and for different parts, so do not fool me, because you have never encountered this and do not understand that with a small part it is simply impossible to keep track of everything. That is why no one was punished, except for one soldier.

Quote: Avior

The woman became disabled, by the way, this is a criminal case of negligence, which led to serious consequences.

Why the hell did she end up in a protected area?

Quote: Avior

There is not the slightest fault of the driver in what happened. He did not break any fence, and did not break anything at all.

Here you are fantasizing, because the fence was with warnings and the driver saw it perfectly when he was driving along the road along it. But when he saw the fallen post and the torn wire, he decided to drive into the guarded object, apparently deciding that no one would catch him there. So his personal guilt is obvious.

Quote: Avior

The question arises, why did they start shooting at him? Is this part of the duty of the duty officer?

The duty officer made a decision in that situation, because it is possible that there was a theft from the territory or the driver could conduct intelligence activities, which is why the special officers interrogated him.

Quote: Avior

Only the main character, it turns out, was very lucky that the case was hushed up and he got off so easily, they had to put him and the fighter who shot, too, by the way.

Indeed, the situation was ambiguous, but his actions and the actions of the sentry were recognized as not subject to criminal prosecution, and therefore got off with an official demotion. The military prosecutor's office did not file any protests.

Quote: Avior

but I never saw any evidence of the story that you published 10 years ago on the site under the rubric of literary stories.

This can be confirmed by my friend, with whom we came to serve together, and a few other people who served then, only you will not believe them, since you decided that this was a fictitious case. I just feel sorry for you - apparently you just saw little army life in its diversity.

[Avior]

I've seen different things in my life.
but the evidence of the reality of your history, no, I have not seen.
neither where, nor when, with anyone it happened, I also did not see it from you.
I only saw you link to yourself ten years ago.

The posts were in a different place, but in this case the sentry was making a round.

sentry - armed guard, performing a combat mission to protect and defend the post assigned to him.
therefore he is either on duty, or not a sentry.

[ccsr]

Quote: Avior

sentry - armed guard, performing a combat mission to protect and defend the post assigned to him.

You are such a great "expert" in military service, but you have no idea that at some sites the guard takes over the post only when the building is closed and sealed until the next morning. It is guarded around the clock only on weekends. During the day, the post is removed, and the vacated sentries perform the task of patrolling the entire perimeter, even on skis in winter. So when patrolling, the sentry becomes a sentry - he also has the right to act as a sentry in accordance with the requirements of the UG and KS.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: ccsr

Here is a story from the Soviet past, what happens in such cases, and I must note that not always everything is safe and our army was in critical situations:

Well, for the sake of truth, it's all with a pitchfork on the water, an excerpt from some forum is written and for the sake of truth it looks more like a bike, and taking into account the name of the forum "Creativity of forum participants" 100 percent, this is so, most likely they could have made the driver extreme and put

[ccsr]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Well, for the sake of truth, it's all with a pitchfork on the water, an excerpt from some forum was written and for the sake of truth it looks more like a bike,

The forum is called "For the Truth", so it is not customary there to invent or compose something, although some authors do not observe this rule there.

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

100 percent this is true, most likely they could have made the driver the last and put

A lieutenant colonel in a major's position because of a service incident - it really was not often seen in the Soviet Army. You correctly noticed about the collective farm driver - it was he who was accused of illegally entering the territory of the facility, which became the cause of the incident. That is why the sentry was not imprisoned and he was not punished at all, tk. fulfilled the order of the unit duty officer. But the actions of the person on duty were recognized as not corresponding to the real threat, which is why he suffered.

[Avior]

moreover, from the forum it is clear that the author is the same, he quotes himself.

[Doliva63]

Quote: alstr

In this case, when such a situation arises, the most correct would be a request to drive off to the parking lot (or roadside) and call the chief of the guard.
And already the chief of the guard must decide the issue of admission or non-admission. Moreover, the admission may not be in the car of an escorted woman.
And my aunt is also a fool. in such situations, you need to come only with a lawyer.

The checkpoint outfit has nothing to do with the chief of the guard, but is subordinate to the duty officer. And the lawyer would have been dragged out of the car in the same way. Their military units, as once in the USSR, are extraterritorial, that is, everything is decided by the Charter, the detachment of the duty forces and the commander.

[alstr]

The difference in this case, to call the nachkar or the attendant does not matter.
This is the first rule, if you do not have the authority to make a decision, then pass it on to your superior.
Therefore, to offer to wait (and even offer coffee as some do not suggest here) in the allotted place and say that now someone who can solve the issue of admission to the base will come up, then there would be no aggression.

And a lawyer in such cases is needed to communicate with the actual ex-husband (i.e., not to overcome the checkpoint). Well, the lawyer would simply keep the client from aggressive actions. And also, if the sergeant did not think to call the senior, then the lawyer would ask him to do so.

[Avior]

if you do not have the authority to make a decision

who said that there is no authority?
detained, and then let them figure it out.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Avior

That she is pregnant

it is quite possible to hide explosives here

Quote: Avior

And the child in the car is not an indicator either

[Avior]

and there is enough space in the car to place at least half a ton of explosives.

[Blacksmith 55]

Without knowing all the circumstances, you cannot judge the sergeant.
How is it in America, what powers does the sergeant have?
In the Soviet Army, it was necessary to call an officer, and this woman in no case was allowed to enter the territory of the unit.
And if she was still aggressive, and unfortunately there are such women, then in any case, detain.
I think it was not worth breaking the glass of the car, taking away the keys, and it will not go anywhere.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Avior

The fact that she is pregnant and with a child does not mean that there could be no explosives in the trunk in order to take revenge on the base and its staff for the bad

I read your post and was horrified. And really, what if she has an atomic boNba in her trunk !?
The sergeant is as scared as you are. Frightened people are very dangerous to society.
Why beat the glass of the car when you saw that there was a child in the car? Yes, a woman could be inadequate. Well, they shot her two wheels and that's it. And then call the nachkar let him figure it out.

[your1970]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

I read your post and was horrified. And really, what if she has an atomic boNba in her trunk !?
The sergeant is as scared as you are. Frightened people are very dangerous to society.

About five years ago in the United States they gave 10 years to two people who drove to the base through the barriers and drove through the territory in a pickup truck ... No bombs, no weapons, no motives ... "We just drove" and that's it ...

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: your1970

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

I read your post and was horrified. And really, what if she has an atomic boNba in her trunk !?
The sergeant is as scared as you are. Frightened people are very dangerous to society.

About five years ago in the United States they gave 10 years to two people who drove to the base through the barriers and drove through the territory in a pickup truck ... No bombs, no weapons, no motives ... "We just drove" and that's it ...

Does this somehow justify the sergeant being scared by a pregnant woman and a small child?

[Guardian of the walls]

It is my happiness that he turned out to be tenacious! ...
Well, I - I did my duty.
It’s true, there was rain, fog, clouds were floating across the sky ...
According to the charter - he shot correctly!

[Alanart]

I hesitated a little and, without entering into an argument,
Chinarik spat out and fired point-blank ...
A year ago, and I don’t forget grievances soon, we had a bit of an argument in the mine ...
Not everything is clear with private Borisov, but everything is clear with the sergeant;)

[Barberry25]

Yes, we would have called the nachkar and let him and her love each other's brains ..

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Personally, being in the attire, on duty in the park, I would never let any lady in the military unit. As far as I remember the rules for the use of weapons, it was allowed (was it?) To use it when attacking a military object using vehicles.

Right! Shoot her at once, so that she herself does not suffer from hysteria and does not annoy others!

[Pivot]

So they have gender equality. He could still beat him in the stomach with a butt or a warning in the head. This is the most democratic country, laws are above all.

[IL-18]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Yes, at the behest of his soul, he beats glass! Look what a happy face!

Erysipelas is happy, this is because he had the opportunity to show himself in the service. In a similar situation, my face, perhaps, would not be happy with me, but I would have acted in a similar way. Charter, however. This is a book that seems bad at the beginning of the service, and over time delights in accuracy and clarity.

[Doliva63]

Quote: IL-18

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Yes, at the behest of his soul, he beats glass! Look what a happy face!

Erysipelas is happy, this is because he had the opportunity to show himself in the service. In a similar situation, my face, perhaps, would not be happy with me, but I would have acted in a similar way. Charter, however. This is a book that seems bad at the beginning of the service, and over time delights in accuracy and clarity.

By the way, yes! And also - comprehensiveness (in, wrapped up)

[Red_Graphic]

Here, as in a joke - but he could chop with a saber.
He had every right to shoot her.

[Krasnodar]

But if she were a black lesbian ...

[hohol95]

...- transgender. Then this sergeant would already be "fried at the stake"!

[Anachoret]

If she were a black transgender and the sergeant would be forcibly transferred to the LGBT and BLM activists)))

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Anchorite

If she were a black transgender and the sergeant would be forcibly transferred to the LGBT and BLM activists)))

With a violent change of gender and skin color

[Krasnodar]

Quote: hohol95

...- transgender. Then this sergeant would already be "fried at the stake"!

Lifetime + 20 years for lack of tolerance

[hohol95]

Few. 4 life sentences and ashes not to give out to relatives ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Krasnodar

But if she were a black lesbian ...

So this solidarity is not "she", but "it".

[oldzek]

You guys have forgotten: the right is not the one who is right, but the one who has more prav.u serzh them in nature are more than civilians.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: oldzek

You guys have forgotten: the right is not the one who is right, but the one who has more prav.u serzh them in nature are more than civilians.

And it is not necessary for a civilian to climb into a military base and she will be happy. And now:

As Gonzalez herself writes on social networks, now "The husband took the child, leaving her without a livelihood"... And instead of providing assistance, the base command "Did a terrible thing".

I don’t sympathize.

[IL-18]

Quote: Krasnodar

But if she were a black lesbian ...

American's worst nightmare: giving a colored gender-fucking tolerant activist in the face

[ccsr]

Quote: Krasnodar

But if she were a black lesbian ...

And if she was an Israeli citizen, then twenty years the sergeant would definitely be soldered for anti-Semitism ...
But since he acted according to the instructions, there should be no complaints against him at all. It's even strange why this case was inflated - he acted in full accordance with the instructions and there is no fault of his.

[Krasnodar]

And if she was an Israeli citizen, then twenty years the sergeant would definitely be soldered for anti-Semitism ...

Not at all - the entire liberal and LGBT community in the United States is pro-Palestinian. You are in good company

[Doliva63]

Quote: ccsr

Quote: Krasnodar

But if she were a black lesbian ...

And if she was an Israeli citizen, then twenty years the sergeant would definitely be soldered for anti-Semitism ...
But since he acted according to the instructions, there should be no complaints against him at all. It's even strange why this case was inflated - he acted in full accordance with the instructions and there is no fault of his.

News scarcity apparently

[Krasnodar]

Likely
At the checkpoint of military unit # 83, located on the territory of the village of Malye Gryazi in the Uryupinsky District of the Mukhogazhenskaya region, the actions of the guards prevented the illegal entry into the military unit of citizen Rubinstein Fatima Surenovna, born in 1971. who, according to her, tried to claim funds in the amount of 700 rubles from a serviceman Nasreddinov Khairullo Shavkadzhonovich, born in 2001. on account of the debt on the payment of alimony for the daughter of Razboeva Dazdraperma Fridrikhovna, born in 1986, the son of Rubinstein, Ali-Baba Vaginakovich, born in 1990. and stepson born in 1970 Arnold Silvestrovich's mouse.
Criminal actions were suppressed by the guard. Private Arson Saraev received a letter of gratitude with the entry into his personal file and a 12-hour leave to the village of Malye Gryazi (under escort).

[Sergey Zhikharev]

Inflated because it sounds good "the American sergeant beat / mocked a pregnant woman", oh he is so and so, bad and not good. But the option (at least this) "the American sergeant exceeded his authority by detaining the violator" no longer sounds

[Torins]

And so, and we have a man always owes a woman))

[Cat]

What's wrong? Was the sergeant supposed to call the cops or a psychologist with a lawyer?

[volodimer]

Entering the base, driving a car is an inadequate woman trying to break into the protected area.
In Chechnya, militants also often hid behind a crowd of screaming women with children.
After all, he could, according to American tradition, first open fire to kill, and then sort it out. I could, but did not, so everything is fine with the brains.
Detained for clarification. Hard? Perhaps, but this is not a supermarket, but a military base.

[novel66]

all evil from women ... in America

[tihonmarine]

Quote: novel xnumx

all evil from women ... in America

And from the men who turned into women.

[Serg65]

Quote: novel xnumx

all evil from women ... in America

And if all American women are eliminated, the evil in America will disappear?
And in general, as it is not tolerant ..... why only from women, gays are not people or what?

[novel66]

gay people. well fuck them

[Serg65]

Quote: novel xnumx

well fuck them

Don't fucking go to America

[your1970]

Quote: novel xnumx

gay people. well fuck them

Fuck ???? !!!!!! What are you, this is their dream !!!!

[Barberry25]

and if I were a transgender negro, then that's it ... kirdyk to the guard)

[mojohed2012]

If there were an LGBT Sergeant, now Gonzalez would run away to another state at least.
The guy who broke through is still a "bad man", but why break the car, beat the pregnant woman, take away the child, and then declare: according to the instructions, all the guys! According to the instructions!
This redneck whinnied when the car was smoking! So he liked it - he dared to show strength, otherwise it was boring! And here is the situation: a "breakthrough" to the base "of terrorists as part of a pregnant woman with a small child.
And if some BLM or an antifa activist or an LGBT person or someone else from the "minorities" broke through - the sergeant would have already been tried!
Such a democracy is it - common for everyone and individual for the elite!

[AML]

Democracy is a fairy tale for the poor. As in the old anecdote about perestroika - this is perestroika at the top, and they will have you at the bottom.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: mojohed2012

This redneck whinnied when the car was smoking! So he liked it - he dared to show strength, otherwise it was boring!

This is how they fight against pregnant women all over the world. Descendants of the Nassau Pirate Democracy.

[Anachoret]

This is called the rule of law and the sergeant acted on the note of the law) if at the Navalna rallies, where parents gave their baby on a "lease" to activists of the movement so that they would get out of the riot police cordon, such parents would calculate and extract children from such families for improper performance of parental responsibilities and involvement of minors in criminal activity) already liberda "for a long time" would have gone publicly and the president of some French would have told that this should not be done)) but in the USA it is different))

[your1970]

Actually, "when attacking a post with the use of vehicles"
- even here you can shoot without warning

[mojohed2012]

So I would shoot! Why, smiling, crash the car? I would have dragged an aggressive aunt to the ground, called in an outfit, and isolated. Why damage someone else's property? She didn't crush him or ram him?

[your1970]

Quote: mojohed2012

She didn't crush him or ram him?

- yes, have you tried to read ?!
"It is added that she" nearly shot down Sergeant Ryan Green of the 366th Security Force. "

[Aviator_]

And does VO place these small family showdowns in the "News" section? Soon this section will reach the level of "Echo of Matzo".

[Marachuh]

The American army in all its glory! Fights pregnant women and natives in loincloths. And the natives are still winning.

[Marconi41]

Quote: Marachuh

The American army in all its glory! Fights pregnant women and natives in loincloths. And the natives are still winning.

You might think that the entrance to the territory of our bases is free. Baba Ganzalez (Latines), came and tried to get inside without permits. She was sent, she was in a scandal, threatened, did not understand, got what she deserved. What's wrong?

[Marachuh]

1) a man is hiding from a pregnant girlfriend at the base 2) a pregnant woman with a small child is storming a military base 3) a pregnant girlfriend of her colleague is mutuzat at the checkpoint ... THIS IS NOT IT HERE!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Marachuh

THERE IS NOT THIS!

and it is possible more precisely all this what ?!
the man serves at the base, what is surprising?

Quote: Marachuh

a pregnant woman with a small child storms a military base

judging by the last name, a hot Latin aunt could well try to break through for a showdown with her man

Quote: Marachuh

at the checkpoint the pregnant girlfriend of his colleague gets mutuz

on the basis of 3200 souls, I can well admit that the sergeant has never communicated with a specific person, but what he otmutized, so do not break into a military facility and there will be a whole face

[Marachuh]

Well, if you do the same with your pregnant wife, then there are no questions.

[Avior]

there is not a word in the article about the fact that someone mutuzit her
She was simply detained, pulled out of the car and handcuffed, after which she was placed in an isolation ward.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Marachuh

The American army in all its glory! Fights pregnant women and natives in loincloths. And the natives are still winning.

you probably don't know, but if you want, you can put explosives in the invoice belly, and among the children there were quite a few of those who gladly shot at the military
with all my not love for mattresses, the sergeant did everything right and let my aunt say thank you for getting out of the car first, he could have fired at first, and then dealt with the carcasses
charters are written in blood, and too compassionate very quickly pass into the category of too dead

[Marachuh]

You probably don't know, but the car fits more. Baba is driving a car, but the explosives are stuffed into the slip belly, l-logic.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Marachuh

Baba is driving a car, but the explosives are stuffed into the slip belly, l-logic.

full get out of the car enter the headquarters for example
and the fact is not contested, a pregnant woman will not be perceived as a threat

[tihonmarine]

It is added that she "nearly shot down Sergeant Ryan Green of the 366th Security Force."

A pregnant woman, and even with a child, wanted to shoot down a sergeant Mordovorot. What are the currents of solidarity in the US Army.

[Nyrobsky]

Let her thank him and rejoice already for the fact that at least she did not shoot, otherwise they have it easy with this case. First they shoot, then they think.

[Avior]

Exactly. The guy also has very strong nerves.
In a country in which there are more trunks in their hands than the population, and anyone can have this trunk in their hands, a person ramming the fence of a military base in a car simply begs for the use of weapons - at least a warning shot, or even at the wheels.

[Max PV]

Of course, the significance of this incident and its impact on the military balance in the world, the combat capability of the US Army and their strategic capabilities can hardly be overestimated ...
But in general, a kind of positive - I imagine how the American military is in the smoking room, or where it is customary for them to discuss such cases, they laughed and put the poor ex-husband on. The only ones who are sorry here are the sergeant, who is now in trouble because of an eccentric woman and partly his own incontinence, and a child who has such a mother. In general, I suspect that the whole part there was aware of the relationship of the couple - otherwise it is strange that the sergeant reacted like that. Or is it a woman, in general, a loss of connection with the ground and soaked it so that the serviceman's nerves were surrendered.

[Blackmokona]

Well, most likely he knew so he did not give a turn in her face. Ramming the base by car is the favorite tactic of suicide bombers.

[Prisoner]

I don't think the sergeant has a problem. Formally, he is right. On the contrary, he can get a medal somehow.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

he did everything right

[Prisoner]

The lady can be seen from the "free" and she is still a witch and the fact that the military base does not sway her. And entertainment for the sergeant. "I fought" from the heart. It seemed a little just stopping. In general, two mattress faints met and amused the people.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Captive

It seemed a little just stopping

just to stop this line at the breaking through the car, and he acted quite even peacefully

[iouris]

What nonsense? Why publish it?

[Der Spiegel]

An uncanonical act ... unspiritual, immoral and immoral.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

what is immorality and immorality?

[Der Spiegel]

in the absence of compassion and understanding of the situation in which a lonely, pregnant woman finds herself. It was necessary to find any arguments in order to allow the woman to calm down, to assure her that her issue must be resolved, and not stupidly refuse, based on job descriptions. After all, there are many non-trivial and non-standard situations where it is necessary to use ingenuity in order to avoid conflict. Now a woman may well demand moral compensation in court, and her behavior can be fully justified by a violation of hormonal levels due to pregnancy and stress due to separation from her husband. And if the fetus is now threatened with defect amid stress?

[Blackmokona]

Well, here you are guarding the base, a woman with a stroller breaks through with shouts and mats to you. Are you missing?
And then in the wheelchair there is half a hundred kilograms of explosives and your friends are scattered in pieces

[Der Spiegel]

Nobody says that it should have been allowed into the territory. It was necessary to come up with such argumentation to reduce her aggression to nothing. For example: sorry, your pass has expired, we will issue you a temporary pass to enter the territory and assign an escort, but this will take time, so I ask you to park your car near the checkpoint of the base and wait a little. While waiting, we can offer you coffee and juice for your baby ... Was it possible to conduct a conversation in this way?

[Blackmokona]

Have you ever talked to people freaking out in your life?
I absolutely do not give a damn about all your arguments, a huge flow of mate and aggression in your face and attempts to break through. That's all

[Der Spiegel]

talked naturally, it all depends on what result you want to get. For example, a situation from my life: you are a duty officer, there is a conscript at the checkpoint, because the contractor is resting (his time), in the evening, the unit commander is in his office with one of the telephone operators on duty, his drunk wife, who lives in the town, arrives at the checkpoint , and arguing that her husband does not pick up the phone, is trying to break into the unit: what are your actions?

[Blackmokona]

Detain and call the commander. Everything is simple and according to the charter.

[Der Spiegel]

yes, apparently the army bypassed you
This is life, life is a little different from the charter ...

[Blackmokona]

Well describe your actions

[Doliva63]

Quote: Der Spiegel

yes, apparently the army bypassed you
This is life, life is a little different from the charter ...

In the normal unit, the wife of the commander of the military unit can only get into the unit accompanied by her husband, like the wife of any officer of the unit. The neglected civilian in the unit is nonsense, isn't it?

[Cat]

In the normal unit, the wife of the commander of the military unit can only get into the unit accompanied by her husband, like the wife of any officer of the unit.

Parts were different. We, for example, had DOSs on the territory of the unit behind the checkpoint, children walked everywhere, in my workshop of signalmen they were constantly jostling, soldering something with the repairmen, others constantly climbed in the sports camp and on the obstacle course. The only thing was that they were not allowed into the park, which is understandable.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Gato

In the normal unit, the wife of the commander of the military unit can only get into the unit accompanied by her husband, like the wife of any officer of the unit.

Parts were different. We, for example, had DOSs on the territory of the unit behind the checkpoint, children walked everywhere, in my workshop of signalmen they were constantly jostling, soldering something with the repairmen, others constantly climbed in the sports camp and on the obstacle course. The only thing was that they were not allowed into the park, which is understandable.

I agree, perhaps, even though I did not serve in such units, I remember how we, 5-6-year-old children, were allowed through any checkpoint inside the town. This was when the 10th GVTD was still in Krampnitz. It was a happy childhood - sunny and carefree. I remember that Grechko brought new greatcoats in the fall and "presented" them at the divorce. Well, we are right there, rushing about almost on guard. The minister was stupid - what the ... bullshit, like ?! The chief of staff says - well, these are the children of the initial intelligence and the chief communications, they are constantly rubbing here, what to take from them?

[Avior]

and the commander will say thank you :))
but I would report to the officer on duty - let him knock on the commander's door :)
On the other hand, there could be an order from the commander to let her through. Without a pass, this is, of course, a violation, but if the question is raised seriously, this order will immediately surface.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

firstly, the situations are not equivalent, the article describes an option when the person on duty may not even know the aunt from the word at all, you bring a situation when you EXACTLY know that a drunk woman is part of the wife and frankly worried about the owl sidalishche, how in case of a conflict they will make peace, and you will be extreme
if you are smart and know the wife of a lump of part, do not let her stupidly let her in by informing that the husband is at the headquarters of the division, at the training ground, at the exercises, underline the necessary
BUT THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT CASES

[Avior]

we will issue you a temporary pass to enter the territory

where did you get the idea that he had the right to issue such passes?
Or make promises in this regard?

Was it possible to conduct a conversation in this way?

Do you know in what key the conversation was going?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Der Spiegel

It was necessary to come up with such argumentation

again, there is only one argument for the intruder of the protected object

Quote: Der Spiegel

... While waiting, we can offer you coffee and juice for your baby ... Was it possible to conduct a conversation in this way?

[Der Spiegel]

for those who walk around stupidly for a day or three - maybe ... For a lawyer of a unit, a unit on duty, a chief of staff and a commander - not everything is so simple. It depends on which bell tower you look at the situation from. For example, any contractor / conscript would do just that. And according to his own (according to the charter) he is right, but for other people everything would be somewhat more complicated ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Der Spiegel

And according to his own (according to the charter) he is right

it's not in its own way, but as needed

[Romka47]

And if she had brought a bomb instead of her belly, waited until the officer came out to "calm down" her, and blew them up along with the shift on duty, and indeed .... comrade, do not take it for an insult, in my opinion you need a forum of a slightly different topic.

[saygon66]

- Both on! Is the peasant wearing a shahid's belt? If yes, then the guys are not afraid of anything at all ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Der Spiegel

Nobody says that it should have been allowed into the territory. It was necessary to come up with such argumentation to reduce her aggression to nothing. ... While waiting, we can offer you coffee and juice for your baby ... Was it possible to conduct a conversation in this way?

for example, give her tea, in your words, as a result, you let a potential terrorist inside and allow her to destroy the entire outfit at the checkpoint, then paint ?!

The suicide bomber who blew up the sheikh in Dagestan pretended to be pregnant

A young Palestinian woman, posing as a pregnant woman, was sent to blow up a hospital in Israel. Her explosive device was found during a routine security check at the Erez checkpoint.

Suicide bomber who died in Chechnya was four months pregnant

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Der Spiegel

lack of compassion and understanding of the situation

compassionate at the post very quickly pass into the category of corpses

Quote: Der Spiegel

to let the woman calm down, to assure her that her question must be resolved, and not stupidly refuse, based on job descriptions

are you adequate ?? !!!!!!
these instructions called REGULATIONS are written in blood including those compassionate like you

Quote: Der Spiegel

After all, there are many non-trivial and non-standard situations where it is necessary to use ingenuity in order to avoid conflict.

there is only ONE way for the sentry to resolve a conflict situation

[Der Spiegel]

Complete nonsense you write! First, the checkpoint is not a post. Secondly, the person on duty at the checkpoint is not a sentry, one should not confuse warm and soft. These issues are resolved only through communication. If a really civilian broke through the fence into a protected object, then in this case, the provisions of the guard duty statute naturally apply. In the case of the organization of the protection of the checkpoint, the charter of the internal service and the job description of the duty officer at the checkpoint apply. If, on my watch, the checkpoint officer fired or beat any inadequate who would try to break into the admin area, then I would have been fired long ago for inconsistency, and the checkpoint officer would have been in prison.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Der Spiegel

The most complete nonsense you write! First, the checkpoint is not a post.

PANCAKE!!!!


Order of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation of December 30.12.2001, 541 N XNUMX On the departmental security of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (together with the Instruction for organizing the activities of the departmental security of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation)
Checkpoint sentry
121. The protected area of ​​a military facility or the military facility itself is subordinate to the chief of the guard and his assistant. If the controller at the checkpoint is not part of the guard, then he is subordinate to the head of the unit, the commandant of the military facility and the officer on duty at the military facility.

122. The sentry of the checkpoint (controller at the checkpoint) is obliged:
to let all persons passing through the checkpoint through the passes, comparing the passes with the samples available at the checkpoint, while it is imperative to take the passes in your hands;
detain persons trying to enter the facility (leave the facility) in violation of the access control, as well as with invalid passes (documents), and call the chief of the guard;

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

I'm scared that you are still not fired
if those on duty at the checkpoint sings tea to all the psychos and inadequate, then the military unit turns into a passage yard

[Avior]

this particular photo is so-so
direct the weapon, facing each other.

[Doliva63]

Well, the orderly at the checkpoint, it's still not a sentry. Although there are, of course, exceptions, they are not typical.

[your1970]

Quote: Doliva63

Well, the orderly at the checkpoint, it's still not a sentry. Although there are, of course, exceptions, they are not typical.

The above is an excerpt from the order of the Ministry of Defense .. So the sentry ...

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

if those on duty at the checkpoint sings tea to all the psychos and inadequate, then the military unit turns into a passage yard

I will fully support !!!!!

Z. Y. The drunken wife of the commander of the military unit was told - he went to the training ground, there the soldiers got drunk again (which in reality happened quite often and in the town they knew it perfectly well). And in the event of a breakthrough, it was a couple of times, they stupidly called the duty officer at the headquarters to warn the commander ...
But this is in the quiet Soviet times

[Doliva63]

The MO order and the Charter are incomparable things, however. And you say, they served in the army

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Der Spiegel

And if the fetus is now threatened with a vice due to stress?

these are the problems of an idiot who decided to endanger her unborn child

Quote: Der Spiegel

Now a woman may well demand moral compensation in court, and her behavior can be fully justified by a violation of hormonal levels due to pregnancy and stress due to separation from her husband.

and if a pregnant woman throws herself under the wheels and demands all the same motivating the same? !!

all actions of the military are regulated by the CHARTER, what are you aware of ?!

[Der Spiegel]

all actions of the military are regulated by the Constitution, and then by laws. Moreover, if the provision of one law contradicts the provision of another, then such an incident is resolved in court. You apparently have never been a military man. And I have 17 calendars behind me ... And the provisions of the Criminal Code are also the basis for assessing the actions or inaction of a serviceman. Learn materiel, do not talk nonsense

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

you are talking nonsense from a legal point of view
from the point of view of the constitution, you have no right to prohibit anyone from passing through the checkpoint
more as a violation of freedoms and rights in general, but in a specific case, your actions are not regulated by the constitution, but by the charter

[Der Spiegel]

do not disgrace yourself, but take the trouble to read completely the provisions of the KRF))

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Der Spiegel

do not disgrace yourself, but take the trouble to read completely the provisions of the KRF))

that's exactly what do not disgrace yourself, the constitution does not prohibit pedophilia and crossing the street at a red light
this is regulated by hotel legislative acts, it seems that you are a Jew referring to the constitution as a Torah

[Doliva63]

Your calendars are all Yeltsin's, or what? They cost nothing.

[Andrey VOV]

And in which army are 17 calendars ???? your nickname is somehow wrong ...

[Avior]

Have you ever been on duty at a checkpoint? Do you know what their responsibilities are written in the Internal Service Charter?

[Der Spiegel]

I've been going on duty for about 9 years, probably. I have never been on duty at the checkpoint, I was on duty in the park ...

[Avior]

Curious.
and do not know what is written in the duties of the checkpoint officer in the Charter? How do you check it?

all actions of the military are regulated by the Constitution, and then by laws.

even more curious. Charter on the side, then? Are you a military man?
not at ease somehow ...

[your1970]

Quote: Der Spiegel

I've been going on duty for about 9 years, probably. I have never been on duty at the checkpoint, I was on duty in the park ...

The duty officer for the part - who does not know the duty of the person on duty at the checkpoint ???? No, I saw such a part - there the sergeant went on duty on the part ... Because the officer was one and two ensigns.
But even he knew the duties of a checkpoint officer - because he was there too ...
In general, the further - the more interesting it is to read you ... I would serve in such a part - where the Charters do not care because the Constitution ...

[Der Spiegel]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

and if a pregnant woman throws herself under the wheels and demands all the same motivating the same? !!

Again write nonsense ... the whole essence of my post comes down to only one thing: an attempt to suppress inappropriate and aggressive behavior, and only then use force, and not provoke even more aggression ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

aggression and hysterics are suppressed once and to give tea to psychos despite the fact that you do not know whether she is really pregnant or not, there is a bomb in the car or not, sorry, but if you are a real officer, then it takes me horror

[Doliva63]

Well, here it is, the post-Soviet army, however!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

What did you mean?

[Doliva63]

I don't remember anymore but about something like the constitution above all else

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Doliva63

but about something like the constitution above all else

and the Motherland? !!!!

and the Holy One ?!

[Doliva63]

Well, you guessed wrong with the Motherland, there is not enough lattice fence with barbed wire and dogs around the perimeter, and there is no commandant's patrol on a motorcycle and with weapons - even at school we had a division into "zon" (living in the restricted area) and "Zazon" "(living" free "). And I did not encroach on the Holy One, for it is a sin

[andrew42]

- What's going on ?
- Unclear. Some shout for Constantine, others for the Constitution - I myself do not know who she is. :))

[musorg]

That's where they are heroes! You can also put a wooden monument!

[Lowbrow]

Quote: Moore

If the ex-madam really rammed the barrage devices - the blood is hot, you can see by the last name ...

the surname may be by the husband, but judging by the name and behavior and the involvement of the kinders in this lewdness and the use of their pregnant position is very similar to our eRSePeh. They love one under the cover of yazhemat-yazhepregnanty right to shake, but came out a tiny bummer and yes, really, it's good that he didn’t start firing.

I read the comments mom-dear, I thought I had aleny firmware, but it looks like (facepalm)

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The sergeant did the right thing.

And if this woman was not pregnant, but with an explosive belt.

We would have to protect our military bases, otherwise anyone can get into any object through a hole in the fence.

[Mwg]

That's right, Sergeant Green! We have a dime a dozen of such "yazhem", they hide behind children. I should have hit on the head.

[diden]

it was not hard to shove on a military facility, I personally would do it myself

[Romka47]

And if forgive her instead of chewing a suicide belt? Here they write, I would call the chief of the guard, call the entire command staff of the base at once in a heap to a suspicious car with a hysterical young lady at the wheel, what if that immediately covered everyone. have forgotten what time we live.
but about the fact that she is with the child ... I remember one lady rushed off to Syria to the forbidden together with her young son, who then (here I can confuse) cut the heads of the captive kindergartens, or shot them.

[Irbiz123]

There is a rare insanity of both participants in the incident: a fool who breaks into a military facility, and a warrior fingers at the nose of a pregnant woman ...

[Avior]

And some readers who are not aware that it is customary in the service to act according to instructions ...

[Evgenii Xolod]

And what is written there in the charter? Maybe the woman was lucky that she only got a crowbar on the car.

[kamakama]

Yazhmat, I do not care that this is a military facility, there is my junk. As I understand it, she had a "family pass", which, after the divorce, stopped working? Welcome on a general basis - request for a pass, approval from the command, and so on. Who said it would be easy?

[fa2998]

Quote: Moore

the sergeant is essentially right. Well, I haven't started firing yet ...

Here the local authorities either punish the outfit (and put a spot on the part) or praise (and even reward). A familiar situation.

[Doliva63]

Long ago, in the 80s, we were driving along West Berlin, accompanied by their MR, a German climbed into the convoy in a passenger car. The column got up, MR-shniki came up to the car and said something to the driver. He apparently did not understand, he was pulled out of the car and beaten with truncheons. Everything. The column drove on. Then they apologized for the incident in front of us. But not in front of a civilian. Nothing is new under the moon like grit

[Avior]

What's surprising?
Wedged into an organized convoy, accompanied by the police, it is impossible to fulfill their requirements after stopping.
Received on the case.

[Yuri Alekseev_3]

The child was for her a means of subsistence turns out.

[isv000]

After checking the driver's documents, it turned out that “false credentials were presented”. The woman nevertheless made an attempt to break through, hitting the fence. It is added that she “nearly hit the sergeant

I am confused by the name - Tatiana ... Only our women can go to storm a military unit to get the former "to talk" out of there ...

[Yuri Alekseev_3]

Instructive video for Ukrainians. How do Americans handle waste material? Didn't he know her by sight? She had a pass, she had been there many times. He knew perfectly well that she was not any terrorist. You are their friends as long as they like the way you lick them. As they become tired, they will do the same to you. They will cancel the admissions and give you a blow in the head.

[Avior]

The fact that he knew her by sight does not change anything
She has hysterical reactions, rams the fence.
What difference does it make if he knows her by sight?
So what if she's been there many times? Quite often they come to kill in the schools in which they used to study, and who knows by sight.
He acted strictly according to the instructions, which was written in blood.
Is it hard to understand?
About Ukraine, this is complete nonsense, you are poking at all topics about it, got it already, they can not write about anything else ...

[Vissarion Golubov]

Most of all I liked with, the capacity is not this incident. ,, Meme, get out of the car (three times). She in confusion calls someone ... Shock, lady passed out.

[Alexandr]

If an attempt was made to break through on a vehicle into the territory of a military facility, then 1 warning, then a turn to defeat, and who does not care who is driving there, everyone should know the boundaries of what is permitted in any condition. Can you still feel sorry for those who penetrate the Strategic Missile Forces base?

[Tramp]

democracy in action.

[SiberianGun]

I did everything right. They didn’t shoot. Firstly, in the United States, women have privileges in resolving family disputes (this is their situation), therefore, in a sense, the army protected its soldier. Secondly, Latinos can be quite dull and aggressive, and that's why they get it. And in general, outsiders, without proper documents, will not be allowed into any base. Again, a soldier could use a weapon so that it did not come to this, he decided to stop it. What is the question then?

[Sharabdinov Sharabdin]

Here everyone says that he pulled out a pregnant woman, but no one specifies how long the pregnancy is and if the term is small, then how should he know that she is pregnant. If she rammed the checkpoint, then he acted more than adequately, even in our charter it is written that it is allowed to use weapons against vehicles ...

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

In addition to the job description, there must be some concept for men. I can hardly imagine that our Russian serviceman would behave like this with a pregnant woman.

[Avior]

In addition to the job description, there must be some concept for men.

by definition, this is not in the army
the army has a charter.

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Charter by the charter, but pounding windows on a car and throwing a pregnant woman out on the road ... You can behave yourself and behave more correctly, especially in relation to a woman who is pregnant.
Although he probably could have shot him.
And you probably did not serve in the army. If they had served, they would have known that it is precisely the concepts (not criminal, but male) that govern many spheres of army life. The charter alone will not go far. The charter is of course good and it is necessary to adhere to it, but there are things that are not regulated by the charter.

[Phobia]

Absolutely adequate action. Instructions for this are drawn up, on the basis of precedents, what and how to do when trying to get to a protected object, and the persons guarding the territory are empowered to present mandatory requirements, regardless of ranks and titles (although this is ideal). Unfortunately, there is something to compare with when you witness a situation when the DCPP or PDKPP stand for more than an hour and explain common truths for the inadequate at the barrier (most of them, as usual, are women). Although, on the other hand, this is a plus for Russian soldiers, who, at the cost of their nerves and time, achieve what they want from such subjects to leave the territory, minimizing negative consequences and not using force. But the American colleague acted as it should, and the main thing is that his command supported him and substantiated his actions, and did not "merge."

[Vladimir Vlasov]

Ne N.imacholovs imynazhu tyuavyb ybaB

[Vasily Aliababaevich]

It was a "democratic" sergeant and he taught a pregnant woman to democracy!

[viktor_ui]

Yes, I did the right thing. The stupid woman, apart from her want, does not see or hear anything at all. I could have shot from the word easily, but she will not understand this because ...

[andrew42]

Foolish women are the same in all countries. "I can do anything!" - it turns out, not everything.

[CTABEP]

The charter of the guard service has not been canceled.