American observer offered to sell Abrams tanks to Poland for protection from Russia

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The Pentagon views Poland as the backbone of NATO's eastern flank defense. However, the fulfillment of this function, according to the American military, requires the modernization of the Polish armed forces, including the weapons with which the Polish army is now equipped. Warsaw is already taking the first steps towards this modernization by signing a contract for the supply of fifth-generation F-35 fighters, as well as acquiring Patriot anti-aircraft missile systems and the High Mobility Artillery Rocket System / HIMARS highly mobile multiple launch rocket system.

Author of The National Interest Dan Gure believes that in order to effectively defend against Russia, Poland should acquire American main Tanks M1 Abrams. He draws attention to the fact that the basis of Poland's tank power today is made up of obsolete Soviet tanks that need to be replaced. There are more than 500 such tanks in the Polish army, according to Gure.



As arguments in favor of the acquisition of Abrams, Gure cites the following arguments.

First, the purchase of American tanks will allow Poland to conduct large-scale military operations using armored vehicles and to contain the offensive of Russian tank columns.

Secondly, the very fact of supplying American tanks to Poland, according to the American observer, will be another signal to Russia that NATO and the United States support Warsaw.

Third, the use of American tanks would increase the level of integration of the American and Polish armed forces in the process of exercises and possible hostilities.

However, the purchase of American tanks is not a cheap business, but for some reason the author does not ask the question of where to get funds for this purpose in Warsaw, just as he does not ask another question: why should Russia throw tank columns against Poland ...
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  1. +12
    July 7 2021
    I suggest that the Americans, in general, give all their weapons to the Poles, so that we do not go far, if anything. laughing
    1. +4
      July 7 2021
      Quote: Marachuh
      give back

      How to give it away, to give it not for business purposes, it is not good for business, oh, for democracies! laughing
      1. +9
        July 7 2021
        American observer offered to sell Abrams tanks to Poland for protection from Russia

        All the Americans have learned well is military marketing in the arms and manpower trade. Namely,\.
        USA knows how to sniff other countries expensive their military products, supporting their own American military-industrial complex, and fighting worldwide by someone else's hands, promoting their masterful way of life the countries colonized by them along with Hollywood in the wings ..

        REFERENCE
        Marketing (from English marketing - literally translated from English means "action on the market", "market activity") is an organizational function and a set of processes for creating, promoting and providing a product or service to customers and managing relationships with them for the benefit of the organization.
        1. -7
          July 7 2021
          Tatyana, excellent post, you probably had a top five in the history of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.
          1. +4
            July 7 2021
            Quote: Guardian of the Walls
            Tatyana, excellent post, you probably had a top five in the history of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.

            Why was a colleague of the Wall Guardian minded? He guessed everything correctly. Namely.

            I have 2 higher educations. Basic - soviet technical, and the other - post-Soviet economic - "market" from 2000. Both diplomas have red crusts.

            Philosophical disciplines were my favorite subjects, because the faculty at the Soviet university was also very highly professional!
            And according to the history of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, I and another girl in our group even got "excellent" in the exam without passing the exam itself in this subject.
      2. +3
        July 7 2021
        No, no, what are you, how can you - you have to pay for demokrasi
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        to give it not for business, it is not good for business

        And so that it was democrat ouchAnd not ой - you can kiss the forehead of the kneeling, well, in the sense of the bent ...
    2. +3
      July 7 2021
      and so that all of it is compactly stored so that we do not spend too much laughing
    3. +4
      July 7 2021
      So that the Americans would just give something, what do you mean. Just sell. Yes, in the subject, we can sell fur shawls. In case of a cold winter, if the American gas does not reach.
    4. +3
      July 7 2021
      The key is, Poland must acquire.
      1. +2
        July 7 2021
        This is how they themselves agree. And the Poles can borrow white flags from the French. lol
        1. +4
          July 7 2021
          Quote: Marachuh
          This is how they themselves agree. And the Poles can borrow white flags from the French.

          Why Borrow? They will tear off their lower half and that's it!
      2. +2
        July 7 2021
        .... the very fact of supplying American tanks to Poland, as the American observer writes, will be another signal to Russia that NATO and the United States support Warsaw.

        Abroad (USA) will help them, and if there is no money, then there is no need to despair, they will give loans. The main thing is that "aggressive" Russia remains in place.
    5. +2
      July 7 2021
      The essence of the message of this would-be analyst boils down to "not how many" tanks in Poland's armament, but "how many American tanks and equipment" need to be sold to the Poles)) to fill Poland with American equipment to the ears, only Poland will pay with apples or will tear itself into dollars ?))
  2. +5
    July 7 2021
    Why not written off Minetmen-3?
    1. Alf
      -1
      July 7 2021
      Quote: Bradley
      Why not written off Minetmen-3?

      It's hard to get out of mines, they can crumble from old age.
      1. 0
        July 7 2021
        And if together with the mine?) However, you can do it on your own.)
        1. Alf
          0
          July 7 2021
          Quote: Bradley
          And if together with the mine?

          Then let them hire bloomers. If they dug the Black Sea, then they can dig a mine with an ICBM as they do.
          Quote: Bradley
          However, you can do it on your own.)

          Don't, she's vigorous.
  3. +4
    July 7 2021
    Firstly, the purchase of American tanks will allow Poland to conduct large-scale military operations using armored vehicles and to contain the offensive of Russian tank columns.

    Secondly, thirdly, there is nothing further to discuss ... nonsense mixed with the desire to have babosiks, this is a killer mixture for those who take it.
    1. +2
      July 7 2021
      purchase of american tanks
      This Gure is a lobbyist of Abrasha!
      1. +1
        July 7 2021
        Well, he doesn't even try to prove that theirs is the best .... buy and ... and then, further, the grass does not grow.
      2. +2
        July 7 2021
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        This Gure is a lobbyist for Abrashi

        Rather a trumpist. They have Detroit bent. A large military order will revive the town. So the little man at the keyboard is working to attach the tanks from the presence, so that there was something to do for the American industry.
        1. -2
          July 7 2021
          A large military order will revive the town. So the little man at the keyboard is working to attach the tanks from the presence, so that there was something to do for the American industry.

          We have the same problem with UralVagonZavod. A lot of debts, but there are no large orders.
          1. -1
            July 7 2021
            Lord ... how can you say such nonsense ...
            1. -1
              July 7 2021
              Lord ... how can you say such nonsense ...

              If about UVZ, then

              1. -2
                July 7 2021
                Read the reports for this year))) with regard to debts, show me a corporation or a large enterprise that does not have debts) this year's revenue is more than 100 yards and a net profit of more than 7,4 billion.
                1. +1
                  July 7 2021
                  Read the reports for this year

                  Can I link?
                  1. -5
                    July 7 2021
                    Google disabled?)))
                    1. 0
                      July 7 2021
                      Has Google turned off?


                      I use Yandex, but there is no report.
                      1. +1
                        July 7 2021
                        https://kommersant-ru.turbopages.org/kommersant.ru/s/doc/4792079
                        Seriously?) Doesn't find Yandex keywords?) But it does.
                      2. 0
                        July 7 2021
                        Seriously?) Doesn't find Yandex keywords?) But it does.


                        this is last year's news, but there are no orders for 15 thousand cars, no need to wishful thinking, you won't find customers with their price tag for cars.
                      3. +1
                        July 7 2021
                        For 21 years the reporting will be at 22. Data for the end of April. I see no reason not to believe them.
                      4. +1
                        July 7 2021

                        This is reality
                      5. 0
                        July 7 2021
                        Quote: Konnick
                        This is reality

                        I'll tell you a secret - lining is far from the most important product of UVZ. wink
                      6. -1
                        July 7 2021
                        I'll tell you a secret - lining is far from the most important product of UVZ.

                        Do not remember the old days, now is the main one. Well, since then, when the designers of UVZ came up with a curved dead center shackle on the levers of a carriage bogie, the level of their design thought became clear. And the quality of the welded seams ... Did the cracks in the T-90M turret win?
                      7. 0
                        July 7 2021
                        Quote: Konnick
                        Did the cracks in the T-90M turret win?

                        You, dear, have clearly beguiled something ...
                        Cracked in armor - this is now, alas, a feature of the Kharkovites. The T-90M does not suffer from this. Perhaps only the first prototypes are experimental.
        2. -1
          July 7 2021
          Quote: IL-18
          Rather a trumpist. They have Detroit bent. A large military order will revive the town. So the little man is working at the keyboard to attach tanks from the presence, so that there is something to do for the American industry

          Roll! What a revival of some Detroit there! the production of abrash was bent long ago and irrevocably. The main thing for Amers is to sell a bunch of old equipment, which they brought to Europe, and it is difficult and expensive to drag it back))))
  4. +2
    July 7 2021
    The author of The National Interest Dan Gure believes that in order to effectively defend against Russia, Poland should acquire the American M1 Abrams main battle tanks.

    Yeah, and also to rebuild bridges that cannot pass tanks of such a mass, roads, but you never know what else will "emerge" later. lol lol
    1. -1
      July 7 2021
      Yeah, and also to rebuild bridges that cannot pass tanks of such a mass, roads, but you never know what else will "emerge" later.

      The main thing is to go, and then they will start. They will sniff and the babos will be. The main thing is to frighten the Poles with the Russian threat, and bridges are not needed, they will bury them in the ground, create a line of "inaccessibility." Zadornov called the wrong ones stupid.
  5. +2
    July 7 2021
    Mustangs from the American prairies should go there to Poland, so that the proud lords could withstand the Asian aerospace armored cavalry on equal terms.
    And then something really all the scrap metal there.
    1. 0
      July 7 2021
      Quote: Uma Palata
      Mustangs from the American prairies should go there to Poland

      So for one second-hand "Abrams" you can buy mustangs for two divisions of the Polish hussars.
      States know how to count dollars in their pockets.
  6. 0
    July 7 2021
    Wunderwaffle Abrams?
    Only with her will Poland win all.
  7. +2
    July 7 2021
    As Winston Churchill said there - if you want to ruin the country, give it a cruiser ... F-35, now Abrams ... Poles need to tighten their belts
    1. 0
      July 7 2021
      Quote: Growlers
      F-35, now Abrams ...

      Not only...
      Warsaw is already taking steps towards this modernization by signing a contract for the supply of fifth-generation F-35 fighters, as well as acquiring Patriot anti-aircraft missile systems and the High Mobility Artillery Rocket System / HIMARS highly mobile multiple launch rocket system.
      They forgot to buy one to keep up the spirit. It will certainly come in handy for the entire army.
  8. 0
    July 7 2021
    First, the purchase of American tanks will allow Poland to conduct large-scale military operations using armored vehicles and to contain the offensive of Russian tank columns.

    And fourthly, (or rather in the first place), "Let’s swallow our metal, for good grandmothers."
  9. 0
    July 7 2021
    The Pentagon views Poland as the backbone of NATO's eastern flank defense. However, the fulfillment of this function, according to the American military, requires the modernization of the Polish armed forces, including the weapons with which the Polish army is now equipped.
    How so? Poland is at the forefront. It is holding back aggressive Russia with all its might. Do you sell your stuff to them? It is necessary to give. And you have to give money. For the Poles are hypertrophied Ukrainians.
    The latter are straightforwardly trying to deceive. And the Poles will cheat so that they themselves are deceived.

    I am saddened by the fact that, if the USSR sold its equipment to the Warsaw Pact countries, it was at domestic prices, in calculated rubles (and not for currency).
    What idiots we were!
    It is for our kindness that they now revile us.
    1. +2
      July 7 2021
      And why were we, we are still not far away? We are looking for all partners, how to provide them with energy and weapons, but at our internal prices. fellow
      1. +1
        July 7 2021
        Are you talking about Akkuyu?
        If about her, then yes. Such gifts are not given from a great mind.
  10. 0
    July 7 2021
    - Ha, but everything will turn out like ... like ... like in the cartoon "How the old man sold a cow" ...
    - Ie. the ending is as follows ... - "Why am I, cow, selling you - you need such a cattle yourself" ... -Hahah ...
  11. 0
    July 7 2021
    The Indian bow and arrow in the guerrilla will show themselves more. And we have Cornets and Contests for tanks.
  12. +2
    July 7 2021
    Quote: Al Niki
    Russians piss ttsy and ttsy like snakes

    Russians are still wiping their feet about people like you ...
  13. sen
    +1
    July 7 2021
    Abrams is too heavy for European infrastructure. For example, European bridges are not designed for such a tank. This has been said more than once when criticizing the Abrams.
  14. 0
    July 7 2021
    Abrams was conceived as a defensive anti-tank weapon. It is not suitable for long raids. As a means of supporting the infantry - also not very good.
    But to shoot tanks from 2 -2.5 km day and night is optimal.
    1. +1
      July 7 2021
      Quote: voyaka uh
      But to shoot tanks from 2 -2.5 km day and night is optimal.

      One amendment - if he reaches the position from which he should "shoot" without getting stuck on the road and not falling through the bridge. Europe is not a very rocky desert ...
  15. +1
    July 7 2021
    Great offer! I strongly support! Instead of fighters - flightless galoshes, instead of tanks - abrashkas, which cannot travel around Poland, since there are no bridges of the appropriate carrying capacity and roads that can withstand this almost 70-ton piece of scrap metal (there is nowhere to take anything, there are no factories, so just " from the presence ", and it is possible that" third countries ")
  16. +1
    July 7 2021
    Good idea ... then the Poles will catch up with the Russian Federation in the range of tanks .... T72, T72 Tvardy, Leo, Abrams
    1. 0
      July 8 2021
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Good idea ... then the Poles will catch up with the Russian Federation in the range of tanks .... T72, T72 Tvardy, Leo, Abrams

      Catch up and overtake! We have already removed the T-64. And they have T-72, Leo, they will add abrasha ... We also need to buy a leclerk and a challenger! Then there will be champions!
  17. +2
    July 7 2021
    Cuba needs to sell T80. To defend against America.
    1. 0
      July 8 2021
      Present only ... and then contain
  18. 0
    July 7 2021
    In recent NATO exercises, Psheki were recognized as the most incapacitated European army ... the US military predicts the defeat of Polish troops in 48 hours. The United States will now pump up weapons in Norway.
    1. 0
      July 7 2021
      These were not NATO exercises, but internal Polish staff teachings.
      On which the counteroffensive was practiced.
      Which was itself Polish General Staff recognized as a failure.
      Self-criticism, however.
      1. 0
        July 8 2021
        Quote: voyaka uh
        These were not NATO exercises, but internal Polish staff exercises.
        On which the counteroffensive was practiced.
        Which was declared a failure by the Polish General Staff itself.
        Self-criticism, however.

        Well, if they themselves admitted so, then at the All-NATO exercises, you can immediately put a coffin with music and the Polish flag, and representatives of other NATO countries will bury it ...
        1. 0
          July 8 2021
          The exercises showed that there is no need to try to counterattack on the Suwalki corridor.
          Checked out. Will not. This is the meaning of such teachings.
          1. 0
            July 10 2021
            Quote: voyaka uh
            The exercises showed that there is no need to try to counterattack on the Suwalki corridor.
            Checked out. Will not. This is the meaning of such teachings.

            That is, the exercises showed that it is impossible to fight with Russia, since the attack on the Suwałki corridor and the Kaliningrad region is the only opportunity for modern Poland to conduct a database against Russia. Well, if they came to this conclusion, then great)))
    2. 0
      July 8 2021
      Quote: Vovk
      The United States will now pump up weapons in Norway.

      Is it because Norway will not fight under any circumstances?
  19. +1
    July 7 2021
    From the trench of the RPG we will have time to shmalnut)
  20. +2
    July 8 2021
    I'm glad for the Poles! Spend More, Spend Better! There is a lot of money: sell apples to Ukrainians, strawberries to Englishmen. Coal - to the Balts. Money - the sea!

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