Naval maneuvers Sea Breeze 2021. Learning is light, and non-scientists - darkness

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Source: US Navy

As you know, the Sea Breeze 2021 naval maneuvers started in the Black Sea with the participation of the United States and Ukraine. They will involve 32 warships, 40 aircraft and 5 servicemen from 17 NATO member countries, as well as alliance partners. 32 countries, most of which are not connected in any way with this sea, sent their representatives to participate in this event.

Official website of the US Navy:



“This year, a record number of states are taking part in the exercises - 32 countries from six continents, which will provide 5 thousand military personnel, 32 ships, 40 units aviation and 18 diving teams and special operations teams. "

Christina Queen, Charge d'Affaires of the US Embassy in Kiev, spoke quite specifically about the goals and objectives of the exercises:

“The United States is proud to join forces with Ukraine to jointly organize the Sea Breeze International Maritime Exercise, which will help improve interoperability and empower member countries. We are committed to maintaining security in the Black Sea. "

There are many versions of the further development of events. From "nothing interesting will happen" to "the exercise may well turn into a blitzkrieg to capture the Crimea."

The only thing all the experts agree on is that the Sea Breeze 2021 naval maneuvers are anti-Russian and provocative.

Is this true?

Could the participants in these exercises pose a real danger to Russia, in particular to Crimea, or are there any other dangers?

Is it enough that Russian sailors control the ships of NATO and other countries' OVMS?

Is the activity of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Donbass connected with the emergence of the OVMS in the northwestern part of the Black Sea?

There are many questions, let's try to find answers.

NATO has no enemies, but there are aggressive actors in the Black Sea


Fortunately for us, the American 6th Fleet and the entire pack that support it in these exercises, even in their thoughts, have nothing against Russia. Such a peaceful military bloc is at our side. I even felt a little ashamed for writing about his aggressiveness.

Here's to you to share my sense of shame, statement of the 6th fleet about participation in Sea Breeze 2021:

“The Black Sea is an important artery for maritime trade and stability in Europe. The US Navy regularly conducts operations in the Black Sea in cooperation with Bulgaria, Georgia, Romania, Turkey, Ukraine, as well as other NATO allies and partners.
Maintaining stability and prosperity in the Black Sea region and restraining aggressive actors seeking destabilization for their own benefit is in the interests of the whole world. "

True, this statement somehow does not fit the participation in the exercises of the American destroyer USS Ross and its 56 Tomahawks with a firing range of 1600 km. Again, if we go back to Christina Queen's speech, it turns out that the destroyer by its presence only expresses support for Ukraine.

As you can see, the informational support for the exercises is so-so. Awkward and rather primitive. All these speeches, statements, messages do not answer simple questions about how the exercises can be dangerous for Russia. But, even more importantly, are the numerous statements of the RF Ministry of Defense, military analysts, experts that the weapons used in the exercises are true, with a high degree of probability, will be left as a gift to the Armed Forces of Ukraine?

In particular, the official representative of the RF Ministry of Defense, General Konashenkov, said quite bluntly about the presence of such information in our Ministry of Defense.

“It is there, under the cover of the exercise, that it is planned to deliver modern weapons, ammunition and material property for the Ukrainian troops. In the future, as in previous years, all this will be directed to the Ukrainian troops and nationalist formations stationed near the areas not controlled by Kiev in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions. "

The arms supply problem is really important. More precisely, this problem is currently the most important of all that our military and diplomats are thinking about.

We are well aware that the post-Maidan authorities are at an impasse. President Zelensky can no longer control the situation in Ukraine. That, in the conditions of this state, can lead to the most unexpected actions. Until the beginning of active hostilities outside Donbass against Russia or Belarus.

Is there a danger for Crimea?

Alas, NATO today does not have at least some kind of military force in the Black Sea that can withstand the Crimean grouping. Everything that is in this region, including those units and subunits that are not participating in the exercises, does not seem to be dangerous for the peninsula. And will be easily destroyed by non-nuclear weaponslocated on the peninsula.

Russian headquarters do not exist for sharpening pencils


It seems to me that the understanding that the NATO Naval Forces grouping in the Black Sea is not suitable for conducting real military operations exists in the headquarters of the alliance. But, in my opinion, there was no task of provocation, especially of an open military conflict with Russia. What was needed was a political action, which the Western media could interpret as the weakness of Russian positions in the Black Sea region.

But then the unexpected happened. Russia, instead of focusing on defending its borders in the Black Sea, began exercises to counter large naval formations in the Mediterranean.

"On June 25, in the eastern part of the Mediterranean, a joint exercise of the forces of the permanent operational formation of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean and the aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces began.

In order to understand how such exercises will affect the opposing side, it is enough to list the participants from the Russian side. The flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet is the missile cruiser Moskva, two frigates with Kalibr cruise missiles, Admiral Essen and Admiral Makarov, and submarines Stary Oskol and Rostov-on-Don equipped with Caliber.

In addition, anti-submarine aircraft Tu-142MK and Il-38, long-range bombers Tu-22M3 and, quite unexpectedly for the opposing side, two MiG-31K, as is clear from the markings, with Dagger missiles, which are relocated to Khmeimim, take part in the exercises. ... Nothing hostile, just exercises to ensure the security of our bases in Syria.

And who threatened our bases?

Yes, none other than the British. Here is a message that was not widely disseminated by our media:

“On June 7, the British Navy's flagship aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth entered the eastern Mediterranean, accompanied by surface combatants, a Royal Navy nuclear-powered submarine equipped with Tomahawk cruise missiles, and two supply vessels. Eight British fifth-generation F-35B fighters and ten F-35 fighters from the US Navy are on board the Queen Elizabeth. ”

Officially: British ships came to work on the IS group (banned in the Russian Federation) operating in Iraq. But this did not prevent a very quick visual communication between Russian and British sailors. According to Steve Moorhouse, the captain of the aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth, the Russian ship was approaching a distance of 30 kilometers. The same messages are coming from British pilots who have already admired Russian planes against the background of the blue sky ...

Don't think the British are scared. They understand everything perfectly and therefore joke in a military manner, like James Blackmore, the commander of the British F-35 fighters on the aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth (quote from Kommersant):

“It's like a cat and mouse game, this is what we expected in this region. This is the first time the F-35 has operated in the Eastern Mediterranean. So, of course, Russia wants to see what kind of aircraft carriers we have. "

The teachings are light, but the unlearned are darkness


The Sea Breeze 2021 naval exercises taking place today are just part of a huge operation to create hot spots on the borders of the Russian Federation. Just another “nail in the chair” that should prevent us from “sitting comfortably”. Having an overwhelming economic and military superiority over Russia, with the exception of some types of weapons, the West is far from confident in its victory in the event of a serious conflict.

The United States and Europe, participating in these exercises, create the illusion of support for Ukraine. Moreover, this illusion is actively promoted into Ukrainian society through the media. The famous "abroad will help us" is already some kind of national Ukrainian dream, in which the majority of the population believes.

In fact, in my opinion, NATO rejected the idea of ​​creating a bridgehead in Ukraine for the threat to Russia. Yes, they will build ports that will be able to receive NATO ships. Yes, the Ukrainians will receive weapons for the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Navy. And they will die in the Donbass. But all this is just a "nail in the chair" on which Russia "sits".

And the teachings ... It's a double-edged sword.

It is necessary to teach your soldiers what may come in handy in a special period. This means that the process of learning in joint exercises is also the process of revealing many secrets. You teach to attack or defend, and the enemy, analyzing your results, develops plans against which you have no antidote.
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  1. -1
    July 1 2021
    The illusion of military support in Ukraine is one, annoying and distracting factor for Russia is two, but information support is still available. So, under the guise of these exercises, the Ukronatsi Donbass will drink a lot of blood, in the literal sense.
    1. +7
      July 1 2021
      In the sense of an illusion? Million dollar military support is an illusion?
      1. -5
        July 1 2021
        Quote: ASAD
        In the sense of an illusion? Million dollar military support is an illusion?

        In the sense of these exercises, the illusion of military support from these exercises.
        1. +6
          July 1 2021
          Alas, today NATO does not have at least some kind of military force in the Black Sea capable of opposing the Crimean group ...

          The Black Sea is only one of a dozen points of tension around the Russian borders and it makes no sense to consider threats separately. It is quite obvious that individually we will defeat everyone (the USA, Poland, the Baltic states, etc.), but to pose questions like that is not competent and is sabotage. The exercises in the Black Sea are definitely a threat.
          1. +3
            July 1 2021
            Well, firstly, they alone will not, and secondly, alone, the United States won’t defeat the current forces of Russia.
          2. -1
            July 1 2021
            Quote: dorz
            The exercises in the Black Sea are definitely a threat.

            no need to exaggerate, this is not such a threat, especially after the transition of Crimea to the Russian Federation, simply, the US dominance is based on the concepts of "aggressive diplomacy", "strategic conflict groups" ("divide and conquer") and "strategic containment" and The main goal of all these concepts is that we spend resources, primarily time, man-hours, geopolitical leverage and money, in the end so that we, due to the depletion of our resources, cannot interfere with US actions in other regions of the planet. In this regard, the United States is doing similar actions against the PRC and against the EU and against any other countries and associations that, in theory, are capable of preventing them.
          3. +2
            July 2 2021
            Quote: dorz
            Alas, today NATO does not have at least some kind of military force in the Black Sea capable of opposing the Crimean group ...

            The Black Sea is only one of a dozen points of tension around the Russian borders and it makes no sense to consider threats separately. It is quite obvious that individually we will defeat everyone (the USA, Poland, the Baltic states, etc.), but to pose questions like that is not competent and is sabotage. The exercises in the Black Sea are definitely a threat.

            How do you compare with 1853? Doesn't it look like anything?
            1. +1
              July 2 2021
              Fortunately, so far we have such a wise and self-possessed President Putin in Russia. nothing threatens us. The Russian Federation will never succumb to any of the most vile and insidious provocations and will stand firmly like a rock in the middle of a raging sea. The leadership of the Russian Federation will steadfastly withstand the most sophisticated humiliation and bullying, the leadership is ready to even eat dog feces, but still will not answer them with their own coin, because our leadership, headed by Putin, is above that. Glory to Putin, Glory to the leadership of the Russian Federation.
              1. 0
                July 3 2021
                You would put a comic emoticon after "ready to eat feces."
    2. +10
      July 1 2021
      ... two MiG-31K, as is clear from the markings, with "Dagger" missiles, which were relocated to Khmeimim

      As far as I understand, this is the main feature in our teachings? They will simulate the destruction of the aircraft carrier.

      In this regard, the question is well-versed.
      Why only two MiG-31Ks? Are two missiles enough to destroy a British aircraft carrier?
      How many dagger carriers do we have in case of a real mess?
      1. +4
        July 1 2021
        It's not enough to destroy, but to disable the ship on which the mountain of electronics is no problem.
      2. +3
        July 1 2021
        And how many heavy interceptors are (are) left to perform the functions assigned to them during creation?
      3. +3
        July 1 2021
        How many dagger carriers do we have in case of a real mess?

        According to reports, 10 MiG-31K are on experimental combat duty in the Southern Military District.
      4. +3
        July 1 2021
        Only here is a very small PROBLEM ... Dagger, cannot work on NDT!)
        1. 0
          July 2 2021
          Quote: Sanguinius
          Dagger, can't work on NK!)

          This is not known for certain, we were not shown examples of NDT tests, but the sources write that it can also be used for surface targets.
          1. 0
            July 2 2021
            So they never had these tests according to NDT)
            And they can say anything today)
    3. 0
      July 3 2021
      And you are Muscovites to Ukraine.
  2. 0
    July 1 2021
    Peaceful American destroyers can be attacked at any time and in any place and without warning !! The subtle incident is a good example, if you really need it, you can, but Russia is not Vietnam, fortunately and with impunity it will not work!
    1. -1
      July 3 2021
      Only everyone pissed off to shoot at Defender, even shoot in the direction of Defender. The video is proof of this. They also lied about the bombing.
      1. -1
        July 3 2021
        Quote: MazaFakir
        Only everyone pissed off to shoot at Defender, even shoot in the direction of Defender. The video is proof of this. They also lied about the bombing.

        Even on a fried fishing laiba, border guards open warning fire after many other warnings.
        1. -1
          July 3 2021
          This does not negate the fact that the Chekist is bluffing.
  3. -3
    July 1 2021
    If there are several dozen aircraft on Khmeinim, half of which, as everyone knows, outright surpasses the F-35, if several MiGs and Tu were added here, one missile of which, as everyone knows, it is enough to destroy the aircraft carrier and if the base is covered by the S-400 which As everyone knows, they see through not only the sky, but also the intentions of the crews, then the last large ships of the Black Sea Fleet, perhaps, would be more appropriate in the Crimea, in order to prevent, if not a blitzkrieg, then impudent provocations?
    1. -1
      July 1 2021
      The Crimean group alone is capable of withstanding everything that is now in the World Cup. Including aviation. But the bases in Khmeimim and Tartus will not be able to remove the British naval group in Mediterranean from the surface on their own. This is what our ships can do during a special period. Walking around a British aircraft carrier, our ships are a good brake for British captains. And the fact that long conversations will not be confirmed yesterday by Putin
      1. 0
        July 1 2021
        The Crimean group, despite all its potential, did not prevent the regular demonstrative violation of terrorists. The presence of a fleet in the Mediterranean should be mandatory, but not to the detriment of native shores.
        1. 0
          July 1 2021
          Do you think you need to heat? Or the fact that the ship was driven out of the tervod is not the fulfillment of the task? What damage did the destroyer inflict on Russia?
          1. +11
            July 1 2021
            The damage is exclusively reputational, and the destroyer supplanted, perhaps, the law of Archimedes.
          2. +2
            July 2 2021
            Well, yes, so decisively ousted, so ousted that the British did not even notice it.)))))
            1. +1
              July 3 2021
              Yeah, gave a move leaving behind and ten minutes later came out of the tervod. Made fun of a little. Especially over the newest "Derzhavin"
        2. -1
          July 1 2021
          did not prevent the regular demonstrative violation of tervod.

          And where was this most regular violation of territorial waters? And when exactly was it not prevented?
          1. +1
            July 1 2021
            Destroyer of the same type Dragon, October last year, Cape Chersonesos. Neither then nor now was it prevented.
      2. +9
        July 1 2021
        Quote: domokl
        And the fact that long conversations will not be confirmed by Putin yesterday

        The main thing is that words do not diverge from deeds.
        1. -9
          July 1 2021
          You will probably immediately go to the front as a nurse?
          1. +3
            July 1 2021
            Quote: smaug78
            You will probably immediately go to the front as a nurse?

            Are you in Brazil, closer to your relatives?
            1. -7
              July 1 2021
              My younger brother, Moscow and me are good laughing But I remember that in the USSR they told us that there would be no winners in the war. It's a pity that you have senile urine sclerosis (((
              1. +1
                July 1 2021
                Quote: smaug78
                I remember that in the USSR they said that there would be no winners in the war

                And they also said:

                "... If the Motherland is in danger,
                then everyone went to the front ... "

                "We will go to heaven, and they will not."
                1. -7
                  July 1 2021
                  Quote: Boris55
                  "We will go to heaven, and they will not."
                  During the Soviet era, they did not say this and certainly did not call for war ... Yes, the GDP is not the Lord God and not the Apostle Peter, what to solve like this hi
                  1. -7
                    July 1 2021
                    Quote: smaug78
                    Yes, GDP is not the Lord God and not the Apostle Peter, what to decide like

                    VVP announced only what God, our father, had already decided long ago.

                    1. -5
                      July 1 2021
                      VVP announced only what God, our father, had already decided long ago.
                      What, however, do you have a bloodthirsty God with GDP (((
                      1. -7
                        July 1 2021
                        Quote: smaug78
                        What, however, do you have a bloodthirsty God with GDP (((

                        "... Our Father who art in heaven!
                        hallowed be thy name;
                        Thy kingdom come;
                        Thy will be done and on
                        earth as in heaven ... "

                        In line with the providence of God, it is necessary to build a paradise on earth, as in heaven. Anything that goes against this is contrary to His will, and therefore they will disappear.

                        "In general, he, the bear, is considered the master of the taiga, and he is not going - and I know this for sure - to move somewhere to other climatic zones, he is uncomfortable there. But he will not give his taiga to anyone, I think it should be clear "- Putin

                        No need to poke a Russian bear with a stick and then you won't have to change diapers, otherwise we can come back to visit again.

                        https://youtu.be/RWl8GwB4hhc
                      2. +4
                        July 1 2021
                        There will never be any paradise on earth, and Christianity has never called for this. Heaven on earth is a dangerous chimera. The only thing that can be done is to prevent the earth from turning into hell.

                        But as for our country and not the world as a whole, I know one thing: if Russia does not turn from the "bright capitalist" path of development, hell will surely come.
          2. +1
            July 2 2021
            Quote: smaug78
            You will probably immediately go to the front as a nurse?

            I’ll go! At least I am already an elderly lady, but a lieutenant of the reserve. Shake the old days!
        2. 0
          July 2 2021
          I wanted to write the same thing.))))
      3. +1
        July 3 2021
        Your Putin, as always, hung noodles on your ears. Just nothing will go further than conversations. You will chew snot and squeal like with Defender. You even at 18 pissed off to drown Ukrainian pelvis. Chekist is a liar and warm.
  4. +9
    July 1 2021
    Thanks to these exercises and not only these, as well as various provocations from the West, there is no doubt about the results of the elections to the State Duma and subsequent ones.
    1. -6
      July 1 2021
      The British F-35s, which went on reconnaissance, intended to fly over the Admiral Makarov, but were met by Russian MIG-31K interceptors, who escorted the intruders back to the Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier with ten fighters on board, which entered the Mediterranean Sea.

      Note that the aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces operate from the Khmeimim base in Syria.
      China responded to reports of a meeting between the Russians and the British. So, analysts of the Sohu news agency published a material in which they assessed the incident as a shame for Britain.

      The publication emphasizes that British combat aircraft had to flee as fast as possible to their aircraft carrier.

      At the same time, observers from the PRC noted that the F-35s from the British aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth made an attempt to fly over the Russian frigate "Admiral Makarov" just a few days after the provocation of the British destroyer Defender in the Black Sea.

      "The attempt to fly next to a Russian ship in the Mediterranean turned into several minutes of shame for Britain," the authors of Sohu state.


      Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1625080919
      1. +4
        July 1 2021
        Quote: Egoza
        were met by Russian interceptors MIG-31K

        Are "K" interceptors?
        1. -9
          July 1 2021
          MIG-31K is the carrier of the Dagger missile. In fact, the first stage, since by themselves they can give the rocket an initial speed of about 2,5M.
          But from this they do not cease to be interceptors.
          1. +7
            July 1 2021
            Quote: Every
            they don't stop being interceptors.

            You are very much mistaken, all the "interceptor" stuffing from "K" has been removed, it is a pure rocket carrier, the "first stage".
            1. 0
              July 1 2021
              I do not argue, perhaps so. Apparently they wanted to make it as easy as possible, i.e. stupidly - the carrier and that's it. Although in vain, their PFAR is not bad, it could work as a target designator.
      2. +7
        July 1 2021
        So, analysts of the Sohu news agency published material

        Sokhu, this is an Internet company that has information about everything and nothing ... this is such a ZhZhshechka at maximum speed, you should not cite it as a serious source of information or analytics
    2. 0
      July 1 2021
      what
      Quote: parusnik
      Thanks to these exercises and not only these, as well as various provocations from the West, there is no doubt about the results of the elections to the State Duma and subsequent ones.

      Biden is also a colonel in the Russian army? Or a general?
    3. +3
      July 1 2021
      There is no doubt about the results of the upcoming elections to the State Duma a priori.
      All voices are already predetermined and numbered.
      Therefore, the elections themselves may not be held.
    4. 0
      July 2 2021
      Sorry, but did you have any doubts that Edro would win? Edro is our helmsman, and Putin is our captain.)))))))
  5. -2
    July 1 2021
    Unexpectedly for me, they are taking part: Israel, crosses on Dimona and Tel Aviv are put up. South Korea, Japan, Pakistan, Brazil, Morocco.
    1. +5
      July 1 2021
      You teach to attack or defend, and the enemy, analyzing your results, develops plans against which you have no antidote.

      I remember right
    2. 0
      July 2 2021
      and can you somehow more details about crosses?
      1. -1
        July 2 2021
        Ask the command of the Strategic Missile Forces! hi
  6. +4
    July 1 2021
    I didn’t understand the article ... I understood only its “cap-covering” component. After all, the Black Sea Fleet and our ships at the Syrian base cannot oppose anything significant to the grouping of NATO ships in the Mediterranean Sea. Since when has "two frigates with cruise missiles" Caliber "" Admiral Essen "and" Admiral Makarov ", as well as submarines equipped with" Caliber "" Stary Oskol "and" Rostov-on-Don "" have become a threat to enemy ships, if "Calibers" work only on stationary targets with previously known coordinates? Or have I missed the most important thing, and "Calibers" already know how to work on ships?
    1. -2
      July 1 2021
      If a UKSK 3S14 is installed on the ship, then it can also work on ships, since the launcher can be loaded with the P-800 Onyx, plus the Bastion and Bal ballistic missile systems. There will be no problems with targeting at the World Cup. unfinished "Liana" is not needed there and so you can see everything.
      1. +3
        July 1 2021
        Quote: Every
        There will be no problems with targeting at the World Cup. unfinished "Liana" is not needed there and so you can see everything.

        Didn't understand how they will issue CU for targets in the Mediterranean?
        You are in no hurry to answer, first read the article, then understand the commentary, and then you will realize that all sorts of "Ball" and Bastion "in the Mediterranean will not help.
        In short, "you need to be more careful ..."
      2. -2
        July 1 2021
        As you know, the Sea Breeze 2021 naval maneuvers started in the Black Sea with the participation of the United States and Ukraine. They will involve 32 warships, 40 aircraft and 5 servicemen from 17 NATO member countries, as well as alliance partners. 32 countries, most of which are not connected in any way with this sea, sent their representatives to participate in this event.

        This is the preamble of the article. From this and proceeded. Another thing is that the author rode from the Black to the Mediterranean.
        And yes, there is a DBK in Syria too.
    2. +2
      July 1 2021
      Quote: Bez 310
      Or have I missed the most important thing, and "Calibers" already know how to work on ships?

      They have been able to do it for a long time. A variation of the "Caliber" in the form of anti-ship missiles, with a range of about 300 km. and a speed of about 3 M (EMNIP).
      1. +3
        July 1 2021
        Quote: vvvjak
        A variation of the "Caliber" in the form of anti-ship missiles, with a range of about 300 km.

        Where can you get acquainted with this rocket, how is the control system carried out?
        1. +2
          July 1 2021
          Quote: Bez 310
          Where can you get acquainted with this rocket,

          Yes, even in "Vika", there, however, only export anti-ship missiles, there are also "Calibers" in a torpedo version.
          There are also methods of guidance.
          1. +1
            July 1 2021
            Quote: vvvjak
            Yes, even in "Vika"

            Thanks, I already found it. A subsonic missile is launched "towards the" target ", at the final stage the RGSN is switched on, which can capture the target. In general, nothing interesting ...
            1. +2
              July 1 2021
              Quote: Bez 310
              Subsonic missile, launched "towards the target"

              Subsonic on the marching sector, when approaching the target, accelerates to 3 M.
    3. -5
      July 1 2021
      Since when has "two frigates with cruise missiles" Caliber "" Admiral Essen "and" Admiral Makarov ", as well as submarines equipped with" Caliber "" Stary Oskol "and" Rostov-on-Don "" have become a threat to enemy ships

      Do you think this is not a threat at all? Five ships and a little more aviation, some of which are openly anti-ship, the same MiG-31K cannot threaten an aircraft carrier? And the fact that "Calibers" work not only on ground, but also on surface and underwater targets, you do not know?
      1. +2
        July 1 2021
        Quote: Stepan S
        And the fact that "Calibers" work not only for ground, but ... and underwater targets you do not even know?

        I don't know.
        But how do you know this?
        We don't have the right outfit to seriously threaten AUG.
        1. -1
          July 1 2021
          But how do you know this?

          From open sources. Where else
          1. +1
            July 1 2021
            Quote: Stepan S
            From open sources.

            Perhaps I will disappoint you, but "Caliber PL" is not a submarine, but a submarine.
            1. -1
              July 1 2021
              I may disappoint you, but read it carefully. On the same Wiki, there is data on torpedo carrier missiles and anti-ship missiles, and this is about export options. Well, and the option that the frigates can be in the launchers of the same Onyx also cannot be ruled out? )
              1. +1
                July 1 2021
                Quote: Stepan S
                about missiles, torpedo carriers

                As you and Vicki say ...
                At this point, the discussion will end, due to the lack of meaning in it.
    4. +1
      July 2 2021
      These small technical details are of no interest to anyone, and in general are absolutely irrelevant. The main thing is that our Russian sailors are there under the wisest leadership of our GREAT LEADER AND CHIEF. And if he only deigns to order, then a qualitative change will occur in the guidance systems of the "Caliber" and they can easily attack even small-sized and highly maneuverable targets, and they will do all this on hypersound with a bend in the terrain. and counteraction to all currently existing missile defense systems.
  7. 0
    July 1 2021
    Judging by the above quote, James Blackmore is not aware that Israel has F35 or that Israel is the eastern Mediterranean?
  8. -1
    July 1 2021
    Alas, NATO today does not have at least some kind of military force in the Black Sea that can withstand the Crimean grouping.
    NATO can do it perfectly well from the Mediterranean. It seems to me that the level of empty cheers-agitations on the site just went off scale?
    1. -2
      July 1 2021
      NATO can do it perfectly from the Mediterranean

      And what will NATO do from the Mediterranean? Will he send planes? Cruise missiles? So the Black Sea Fleet in the Black Sea practically throughout the entire territory can be under the cover of coastal air defense.
      1. -4
        July 1 2021
        Learn mat. part...
        1. -1
          July 1 2021
          Learn mat. part...

          When there is nothing to say.
          1. -2
            July 1 2021
            Of course, the potential enemy has only fools who will not think of simultaneously overloading the air defense with a massive strike and interference, and striking the fleet with a full outfit of forces ...
            1. 0
              July 1 2021
              Overload air defense with massive strike and interference

              Of course I understand that. Probably you understand that this is already a war and that it will not end with just an overload and a blow with a "full outfit". We, too, are not just fools, as you might think, and the same electronic warriors of the Black Sea Fleet are very experienced, and they have practical experience and the whole range of modern electronic warfare equipment. Not all missiles from a "massive strike" will reach the coast of Crimea.
              1. -1
                July 1 2021
                We also have not only fools sitting, as you might think
                And where does it seem to me? It was you all "with little blood, on a foreign land", in 1941 it did not work (
                1. 0
                  July 1 2021
                  Quote: smaug78
                  It was you all "with little blood, on a foreign land", in 1941 it did not work (

                  and would you be so kind as to voice what kind of weapon in 1941 made it possible to implement the concept of "mutual destruction of key objects" on which the security of most leading countries is based today?
                  1. -3
                    July 2 2021
                    Dear, have you read the article and comments on it? If yes, then it is not clear why you asked your question.
  9. 0
    July 1 2021
    I wonder what they are doing there again. Someone will be bumped into someone, someone will be turned over, someone will be run aground.
    They gathered a horde of ships from different countries, whose crews are not coordinated with each other. They will be like a swan, cancer, and a pike.
    1. 0
      July 1 2021
      That's why they are going, so that it does not happen like a fable.
  10. +2
    July 1 2021
    In the Sea Breeze 2021 exercise, the patrol corvette BODRI (B. No. 14, PLC pr. 1241.2) participates from the Bulgarian Navy. In the comments there were questions like "How is the Crimean Peninsula depicted on the maps of the ship?" and "The commander of the ship must know how to work near the Crimea, so as not to visit the bottom of the Black Sea."
    I regret that Bulgarian warships are participating in the US exercise, but most of the Bulgarian naval reserve officers have no tools whatsoever to counter.
  11. +1
    July 1 2021
    Quote: domokl
    And the fact that long conversations will not be confirmed by Putin yesterday

    I hope, as there will be no reflections in the format
    all this is just a "nail in a chair"

    Ask "about carnations" the great European empires that the Anglo-Saxons successfully "blown" with their carnations. Russia is just for some reason not blown away in any way, thank God.
  12. 0
    July 1 2021
    It is clear what they are trying to achieve, to scare Russia. Putin correctly said that this is a narrow-minded tendency! What do they want, wars? Well, this is a sick fantasy of unhealthy people!
  13. 0
    July 1 2021
    Great plot, also of the same opinion.
  14. -2
    July 1 2021
    INFA is interesting)))
    It seems to me we are looking in the wrong direction ...
    https://tjournal.ru/u/409307-mikita-rudiy/404275-po-rezultatam-ucheniy-si-briz-ukraina-mozhet-sozdat-flotskuyu-gruppirovku-na-kievskom-vodohranilishche?fbclid=IwAR2M3yXRCpJpv7J2kU0mNEc7cpkwSmD3aTCyGY1Ei0jubO75SD-gE6XU_DQ
  15. -3
    July 1 2021
    "This year, a record number of states are taking part in the exercises - 32 countries from six continents, which will provide 5 military personnel, 32 ships, 40 aviation units and 18 diving teams and special operations groups."

    In such a small sea and so many goals at once !!!!!! After all, the Black Sea is shot through and through, only by the coastal "Bastions" in the Crimea .. And how many more strike complexes there are hidden in the catacombs and other fortified areas (left since Soviet times) There engineering concreting, etc. was created for centuries And all this has already been restored and new is being built! The Black Sea is a trap for NATO .. ​​There will be a shooting range, if anything starts .. The training is excellent for all of us in the Crimea and not only !!! We study, we irradiate, we observe .. hiWe kill the especially arrogant!
  16. 0
    July 23 2021
    It is good that our IMF connections in the Mediterranean have started war games, the Mericans first of all realized that they could stay in the Black Sea. moreover, under the gun of all types of weapons of the Crimean peninsula, and they are unlikely to be able to release more than one or two missiles or other ammunition in the event of hostilities with the Russian Federation.

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