American attack helicopter AH-64 Apache will receive a new long-range missile to destroy ground targets

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The American attack helicopter AH-64 Apache will receive a new missile for engaging ground targets no earlier than 2028, development is being carried out within the framework of the LRPM (Long Range Precision Munition) program.

According to Popular Mechanics magazine, the Pentagon is currently looking for options for a new missile that will allow the helicopter to hit targets without entering the air defense zone. Comparative tests of the missiles proposed for the tender are scheduled for 2022. The new rocket is to enter service by 2028.



The author of the article notes that the long-range missile is extremely necessary for the American attack helicopter, since the air defense systems of Russia and China "are becoming more and more dangerous." It is emphasized that the range of destruction of the Russian air defense systems "Tor" and "Pantsir" reaches 20 km, so the Apache must receive a missile with a range of at least 30 km in order to hit targets without being exposed to danger.

Earlier, the US Army announced the requirements for the new missile. According to them, it must hit ground targets (manpower, lightly armored vehicles and control posts) at a distance of at least 30 km, and it must also be able to overcome and hit complex air defense systems. The mass of the rocket should not exceed 91 kg together with the launch container, if such is provided for by its design. It is separately emphasized that the rocket should cover 30 km in no more than 100 seconds.

Currently as "weapons long-range "AH-64 Apache helicopters use the Israeli Spike NLOS missile, capable of hitting ground targets at a range of 32 km. However, the Pentagon said that this is a temporary measure. It is emphasized that the Spike NLOS will not replace the Hellfire missile, which has a range of approximately 8 km. The US Army wants to keep alternative weapons.
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  1. +2
    27 2021 June
    They can license SPIKE simply
    1. +4
      27 2021 June
      Quote: Zaurbek
      They can license SPIKE simply

      Spike is slow-moving, and they are looking for an almost super sonic rocket.
      1. -5
        27 2021 June
        Quote: professor
        Quote: Zaurbek
        They can license SPIKE simply

        Spike is slow-moving, and they are looking for an almost super sonic rocket.

        Like in the movie "Twelve Chairs"

        smile
        as they find it, it will be discovered that the range of destruction of Russian tori and shells SUDDENLY became 50 km ...
        start with cola again. laughing
        1. +8
          27 2021 June
          Quote: den3080
          as they find it, it will be discovered that the range of destruction of Russian tori and shells SUDDENLY became 50 km ...

          And at least 500 km. The laws of physics have not yet been canceled.
          1. -5
            27 2021 June
            That's for sure. The Apache turns out to be 30 km away, another 20 km is left and suddenly it flies in ...
            as? what? ... fak, shit !! ... the laws of physics ... meide meydei !! ... if there is still someone to tell smile
            1. +1
              27 2021 June
              Quote: den3080
              That's for sure. The Apache turns out to be 30 km away, another 20 km is left and suddenly it flies in ...
              as? what? ... fak, shit !! ... the laws of physics ... meide meydei !! ... if there is still someone to tell smile

              Doesn't flood. Curvature of the earth's surface, CEP. But Apache uses NLOS (decipher the abbreviation yourself).
              1. -3
                27 2021 June
                Quote: professor
                Doesn't flood. Curvature of the earth's surface, CEP. But Apache uses NLOS (decipher the abbreviation yourself).

                ARGSN ZUR - will you decipher or help yourself?
                1. +2
                  27 2021 June
                  Curvature then it is curvature, as if it exists for everyone (like the laws of physics for everyone), but I was more interested
                  The US Army wants to keep alternative weapons.
                  alternative from Israel? Straight of something ... recourse
                2. +2
                  27 2021 June
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  Quote: professor
                  Doesn't flood. Curvature of the earth's surface, CEP. But Apache uses NLOS (decipher the abbreviation yourself).

                  ARGSN ZUR - will you decipher or help yourself?

                  Can you help you with how the decision to launch a rocket with ARLGSN is made?
                  You need to know that the person needs to be detected, accompanied, in order to calculate the lead point for launching the rocket, give data to the rocket on the point of flight and turn on the seeker, and so on.
                  That is, I hope you now understand that even for a missile with ARLGSN, it is still necessary to detect the target and accompany it with the issuance of target designation.
                  With the subsequent transfer of correction data to the rocket.
                  And only then, when the missile turns on its own seeker, you can stop accompanying direct tracking and target designation.

                  At the forefront, there are no super-powerful systems capable of detecting low-flying targets at ranges of 30-50-70 km
                  1. -1
                    28 2021 June
                    Quote: SovAr238A
                    I hope you now understand that even for a missile with an ARLGSN, it is still necessary to detect the target and accompany it with the issuance of target designation.

                    You don't even need to write yourself, I will quote:
                    Quote: abc_alex
                    To hit the target, the helicopter must aim. You see, in some cases it is not enough to shoot and forget. Sometimes you have to shoot and hit. So, for aiming, the helicopter must rise above the "curvature of the earth's surface"
                3. 0
                  28 2021 June
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  Quote: professor
                  Doesn't flood. Curvature of the earth's surface, CEP. But Apache uses NLOS (decipher the abbreviation yourself).

                  ARGSN ZUR - will you decipher or help yourself?

                  Does he see through the ground? I believe. We saw this in Karabakh. wassat
              2. -1
                27 2021 June
                Doesn't come. Curvature of the earth's surface, CEP. But Apache uses NLOS (decipher the abbreviation yourself).

                Not Newton’s binomial. wink
                The American Boeing AH-64 Apache attack helicopter has received an Israeli Spike Non-Line-Of-Sight (NLOS) guided missile as a temporary weapon.

                You argue, argue, but why the Apache can be shot down only by the "Thor" and "Shell" air defense systems.
                There are no other ways? laughing
              3. -1
                28 2021 June
                Quote: professor
                Doesn't flood. Curvature of the earth's surface, CEP. But Apache uses NLOS (decipher the abbreviation yourself).

                Professor, you're making me fun again. :)
                To hit the target, the helicopter must aim. You see, in some cases it is not enough to shoot and forget. Sometimes you have to shoot and hit. So, for aiming, the helicopter must rise above the "curvature of the earth's surface". And it is at this moment that he will receive the air defense missile system assigned to him. Note that for SAM missiles, the weight restrictions are much less stringent.
                But, you say - they will show him. Perhaps, otherwise, why would an Apache with a radar with a maximum range of 16 km, a missile with a range of 30? But won't the rocket ship be expensive? He himself will not be able to fully use such missiles.
                1. +1
                  28 2021 June
                  Quote: abc_alex
                  To hit the target, the helicopter must aim. You see, in some cases it is not enough to shoot and forget. Sometimes you have to shoot and hit. So, for aiming the helicopter must rise above the "curvature of the earth". And it is at this moment that he will receive the air defense missile system assigned to him. Note that for SAM missiles, weight restrictions are much less stringent.

                  Who told you such nonsense, my young friend? NLOS ...


                  Equipment: the helicopter is aiming while out of line of sight with the target (NLOS). For example, because of the hillock. And there is no need for a jump, CEP.



                  Quote: abc_alex
                  But, you say - they will show him. Perhaps, otherwise, why would an Apache with a radar with a maximum range of 16 km, a missile with a range of 30? But won't the rocket ship be expensive? He himself will not be able to fully use such missiles.

                  Not all Apaches have radar.
                  Spike is a self-contained system. The video above says how the American Apache hit a moving target at a maximum distance with her at night.
                  Apache is an expensive helicopter by definition.
                  The Israeli Apaches themselves are already fully using Spikes, CEP. hi
                  1. 0
                    July 2 2021
                    Quote: professor

                    Spike is a self-contained system. The video above says how the American Apache hit a moving target at a maximum distance with her at night.
                    Apache is an expensive helicopter by definition.
                    The Israeli Apaches themselves are already fully using Spikes, CEP. hi


                    You again confuse the war with the bearded in sneakers, and the war with a highly technological real army. I do not argue that the "spike" ideology missile can be used from a distance exceeding the range of an attack helicopter's sighting system. Not without a reason, all the 70s and 80s this ideology was worked out in the design bureaus, engaged in armament of helicopters and ATGMs in the USSR.
                    But when a real army is against you, it takes measures to camouflage its positions and objects, and it will not work to launch a missile "somewhere there" but "we'll see". You will NOT find anything "there". We need intelligence. In the USSR, heavy anti-ship missiles worked according to the same logic. "Granite" was also launched somewhere "in the area", and there it was already aiming. True myself. But he also needed primary target designation. From the satellite system. No other way. On the other side is not an illiterate alahakbar, but professional military men who know what countermeasures are.

                    But I'm not talking about that. I believe that for such an ideology of application, it is not necessary to fence in such an expensive system as an attack helicopter. Even just a helicopter is redundant for this. A truck with a PU package is enough. Or a jeep. What does a helicopter give as a carrier?
                    1. 0
                      July 2 2021
                      Quote: abc_alex
                      You again confuse the war with the bearded in sneakers, and the war with a highly technological real army. I do not argue that the "spike" ideology missile can be used from a distance exceeding the range of an attack helicopter's sighting system. Not without a reason, all the 70s and 80s this ideology was worked out in the design bureaus, engaged in armament of helicopters and ATGMs in the USSR.
                      But when a real army is against you, it takes measures to camouflage its positions and objects, and it will not work to launch a missile "somewhere there" but "we'll see". You will NOT find anything "there". We need intelligence. In the USSR, heavy anti-ship missiles worked according to the same logic. "Granite" was also launched somewhere "in the area", and there it was already aiming. True myself. But he also needed primary target designation. From the satellite system. No other way. On the other side is not an illiterate alahakbar, but professional military men who know what countermeasures are.

                      No, I'm not confusing anything. Looks at how the Armenian army confronted the Spikes.

                      No satellites required.

                      Quote: abc_alex
                      But I'm not talking about that. I believe that for such an ideology of application, it is not necessary to fence in such an expensive system as an attack helicopter. Even just a helicopter is redundant for this. A truck with a PU package is enough. Or a jeep. What does a helicopter give as a carrier?

                      The helicopter is just a platform. The truck is not as mobile as the helicopter.
                      1. -1
                        July 7 2021
                        Quote: professor
                        No, I'm not confusing anything. Looks at how the Armenian army confronted the Spikes.

                        How? Armenia did not fight in Karabakh. Professor, you are deeply mistaken in the realities of this war. The army of Karabakh fought with Azerbaijan, which in terms of professionalism is many times closer to the Alahakbar than to the US army. Armenia did not even send its volunteers there. All the cynicism and hypocrisy of Pashinyan is that he was NOT at war with Azerbaijan, he provoked this war and accuses the Russians that they did not start fighting INSTEAD of the Armenians. Although he did not even ask for military help!
                        The positions of the Karabakh militia, which was repeatedly noted by many experts, were equipped with gross violations of all rules and norms. In fact, they were not masked at all, not even with networks. Like this



                        Quote: professor
                        The helicopter is just a platform. The truck is not as mobile as the helicopter.


                        But the truck is more lifting. But even if a helicopter, why a shock one? Transport is better. An attack helicopter was created for contact combat, if you equip it with a non-contact weapon, why is it needed? What's the point of hanging a 100-km missile on the Mi-28? Why is the Mi-35 badly adapted for this?
                      2. 0
                        July 7 2021
                        Quote: abc_alex
                        How? Armenia did not fight in Karabakh.

                        Yes? Where did the thousands of graves in Armenia come from? Did my classmate from Gyumri receive a concussion in Gyumri?

                        Quote: abc_alex
                        Professor, you are deeply mistaken in the realities of this war. The army of Karabakh fought with Azerbaijan, which in terms of professionalism is many times closer to the Alahakbar than to the US army. Armenia did not even send its volunteers there. All the cynicism and hypocrisy of Pashinyan is that he was NOT at war with Azerbaijan, he provoked this war and accuses the Russians that they did not start fighting INSTEAD of the Armenians. Although he did not even ask for military help!
                        The positions of the Karabakh militia, which was repeatedly noted by many experts, were equipped with gross violations of all rules and norms. In fact, they were not masked at all, not even with networks. Like this

                        Dear, I grew up in those parts and I know what's what very well.
                        And the disguise was there according to the charter. I can show the video.

                        Quote: abc_alex
                        But the truck is more lifting. But even if a helicopter, why a shock one? Transport is better. An attack helicopter was created for contact combat, if you equip it with a non-contact weapon, why is it needed? What's the point of hanging a 100-km missile on the Mi-28? Why is the Mi-35 badly adapted for this?

                        The contact battle ended in 1991.
                      3. 0
                        July 7 2021
                        Quote: professor
                        Yes? Where did the thousands of graves in Armenia come from? Did my classmate from Gyumri receive a concussion in Gyumri?

                        I have no idea who your classmate is or where he was wounded. And I haven't seen a thousand graves either. Officially, Armenia did not participate in the war. Perhaps your classmate was a volunteer?

                        Quote: professor
                        Dear, I grew up in those parts and I know what's what very well. And the disguise was there according to the charter. I can show the video.


                        And the photo that I brought, does not convince you? Or do you sacredly believe in the omnipotence of Spike, who sees everything, everywhere, and everywhere? There are many videos where the positions of the Karabakh people are not covered by anything ...

                        Quote: professor
                        The contact battle ended in 1991.

                        Are you deliberately ignoring the meaning of my question? You have nothing to answer? You, too, understand the absurdity of hanging rockets of this type on shock helicopter, but don't want to admit it? So this is not your fault, and I am not your prosecutor, have intellectual courage. You won't get anything for this, I assure you :)
                      4. 0
                        July 8 2021
                        Quote: abc_alex
                        I have no idea who your classmate is or where he was wounded. And I haven't seen a thousand graves either. Officially, Armenia did not participate in the war. Perhaps your classmate was a volunteer?

                        And in fact, the regular army with standard weapons took part.

                        Quote: abc_alex
                        And the photo that I brought, does not convince you? Or do you sacredly believe in the omnipotence of Spike, who sees everything, everywhere, and everywhere? There are many videos where the positions of the Karabakh people are not covered by anything ...

                        A single photon is clear from what time does not convince me. More interesting are videos from drones or seeker missiles hitting disguised targets.
                        Spike is not omnipotent, but it has proven to be effective.

                        Quote: abc_alex
                        Are you deliberately ignoring the meaning of my question? You have nothing to answer? Do you also understand the absurdity of hanging missiles of this type on an attack helicopter, but do not want to admit it? So this is not your fault, and I am not your prosecutor, have intellectual courage. You won't get anything for this, I assure you :)

                        The attack helicopter differs from the transport helicopter somewhat, although in the USSR, in the absence of the former, the latter were boldly thrown into battle. Moreover, a purely attack helicopter was never adopted. Looks like your associates were sitting in the leadership. We rushed to create an attack helicopter too late and the lag still exists now.

                        The longer the arm of the attack helicopter is, the better. This is an axiom. hi
          2. +1
            27 2021 June
            Are you talking about target designation?
      2. +1
        27 2021 June
        They are not looking for anything, in the article they did not mention the JAGM rocket, with a range of up to 16 km, which was put into service ... Why did the author forget about this rocket?
  2. +6
    27 2021 June
    Title: -will receive a new long-range missile.
    And in the text, not earlier than 2028
    Why not write - they are developing in the USA ...
    1. +8
      27 2021 June
      Why, then the title will be less clickable. And you can also suck articles out of your finger - in the comments, Russia does not make an engine, or vice versa (example) and this is written on some kind of scruffy resource that any adequate person not only takes it into account, but simply does not know about it ...
    2. +2
      27 2021 June
      Quote: knn54
      Why not write

      This is the grandfather's disease of "yellowness" in the press. Yes
  3. +20
    27 2021 June
    "The eternal struggle between the shield and the sword"
    Yes, at a distance of over 30 km, they can also be obtained.
  4. +5
    27 2021 June
    There are doubts about the ability of the helicopter to conduct reconnaissance of targets at a distance of 30 km
    New missile primarily against operating radars and air defense systems with radars
  5. +2
    27 2021 June
    So it seems that at the Shell SM the 57e6e rocket hits 40 km ... So 30 km for the Apache will already be not enough ... If you only compare the developed one with Spike, then yes, progress!
    1. 0
      27 2021 June
      Quote: RUSLAN
      So it seems that the 57e6e rocket hits 40 km near the Shell SM.

      SAM 57E6E 40 km does not "hit" ... But a hypersonic missile with a range of 40 km from the Pantsir-SM air defense system appeared ...
  6. +2
    27 2021 June
    American attack helicopter AH-64 Apache will receive a new missile to destroy ground targets not earlier than 2028 year

    Painfully familiar lines. And the key here is “not earlier than 2028”.
    fellow How fast time flies!
  7. +1
    27 2021 June
    Effectively attack, hit targets, while protecting yourself to the maximum ... it is not harmful to want, but it is unlikely that this will remain unattended, unanswered, by the alleged enemy.
    1. +1
      27 2021 June
      In the USSR, back in the mid-60s, a "radio-controlled" anti-tank missile with a range of up to 30 km was created ...
      1. 0
        27 2021 June
        Now they are trying to make smarter rockets ... fired and forgot. The level of technology allows this without much stress, more expensive, it is true, but the owner is a master. Has what it can have.
      2. 0
        28 2021 June
        I'm sorry! "Skosyachil"! An anti-tank missile with a range of up to 30 km appeared in the USSR in the mid-50s ...
  8. 0
    27 2021 June
    And what does the spike not suit them?
    1. +1
      27 2021 June
      Quote: Dmitry Izmalkov
      And what does the spike not suit them?

      money goes into the wrong pocket.
      after all, according to ... uh ... the laws of physics! money should only settle in the American pocket smile
      1. 0
        27 2021 June
        So buy a license or just documentation, and then issue it for yours?
    2. -1
      27 2021 June
      The spike is relatively slow, they want at least a transonic missile - 30 km in 100 seconds.
      The spike is twice as slow.
  9. 0
    28 2021 June
    USA in the role of catching up with our "Hermes".
    Most of the way "Hermes" overcomes under the control of the inertial navigation system, when approaching the target turns on the seeker.
    Its GOS is equipped with highly sensitive sensors operating in different ranges of the spectrum. The rocket can be guided by the mark of the laser rangefinder-target designator, at the heat emitted by the target, and also broadcast the picture from the camera to the helicopter cockpit. The weapon is immune to interference, capable of distinguishing a target from infrared traps and operating in a "fire-and-forget" mode.
    https://vpk.name/news/375609_ka-52m_vooruzhat_raketoi_s_dalnostyu_100_kilometrov.html

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