Experimental carrier "Poseidon" first went to sea for testing

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The special-purpose nuclear submarine K-329 "Belgorod" of project 09852 has entered the stage of factory sea trials. According to data voiced by a source in the shipbuilding industry, the submarine went to one of the North fleet.

Reportedly, the experimental carrier of marine drones "Poseidon" first entered the ZKhI in the White Sea on June 25. There is no information about how long this stage will last and how many nuclear submarines are planned to go to sea. "Sevmash" traditionally does not give any comments, writes TASS... At the moment, it is known, again from various sources, that the sea trials of "Belgorod" will smoothly flow into the state ones, and it is planned to transfer the submarine to the customer by the end of this year. According to reports, the submarine will go to serve in the Pacific Fleet.

In April of this year, it was reported that a reactor was launched on the Belgorod submarine, and the submarine was going through a stage of mooring tests. The submarine should complete the tests of the nuclear submarine, including state tests, by September 2021. In addition, it was emphasized that the tests of the nuclear submarine are not associated with the tests of the Poseidons themselves, they are separate.

The multipurpose nuclear submarine Belgorod, launched on April 23, 2019, will be an experimental carrier of the Poseidon drones. The nuclear submarine "Khabarovsk" of project 09851 will be the standard carrier. Earlier it was reported that it is planned to build four carriers of "Poseidons" - two each for the Northern and Pacific fleets. Three of them will be built within the framework of the current state armaments program until 2027, and one more will most likely be built within the framework of the new program.

Comments

[Xnumx vis]

Okay, the dogs are barking, the caravan is coming!

[lucul]

Okay, the dogs are barking, the caravan is on its way

Something is not audible to our opps, with their sacred - "these are all cartoons filmed at Soyuzmultfilm"))))

[GRIGORIY76]

So they called cartoons not Poseidon, but the avant-garde and a rocket powered by a nuclear engine "melting on Mach 28 Eskimo". By the way, there is little news about the petrel after that incident near Severodvinsk.

[PN]

And who told you that the Petrel exploded near Severodvinsk? Stop believing journalistic rumors. There was something else.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: PN

There was something else.

And what was there Oh !?
(Dear, well, do not torment your soul ... open your face ...)

[knn54]

At the launching ceremony, the propellers were carefully covered.

[Popandos]

They are closed on all slopes and ascents.

[tralflot1832]

It turns out that Belgorod is the only one in the world with two water-jet propellers!

[PN]

He does not have water cannons, but classic propellers.

[tralflot1832]

Well, not quite classic, like the Fulton steamship after the Archimedes propeller broke, but very close, too bad!

[Yuriy71]

Poseidon carriers are more needed in the Atlantic direction. There, the coast of the United States and Canada is mostly low-lying and you can cause colossal tsunamis, with deep penetration into the depths of the enemy's territory! Why are they in the Pacific Fleet? The coast of the United States is here - grandiose mountain systems, which will, in fact, be an obstacle! For the destruction of some naval bases, other conventional means could well be used. I think (IMHO) - not rational use of funds, based on the characteristics of this product, which were announced !!!

[Galleon]

There is no need to try to provoke a discussion. The more bewilderment, the calmer in this particular case.

[Yuriy71]

There is no need, hiding behind pseudo-philosophical fabrications, not understanding anything about it, to shut up people! Study performance characteristics, available information, raise your intellectual level and, maybe (but not a fact), you will begin to understand something !!! ! First, look at the map !!! I am a geologist who has more than 45 scientific articles, reports and other works published all over the world .... It is not for you to give me recommendations))))))

[Bashkirkhan]

Quote: Yuriy71

I am a geologist who has more than 45 Scientific articles, reports and other works published all over the World ...

If you are a geologist, this does not mean that you are well versed in the placement of submarines with nuclear torpedoes. You still need to get to the Atlantic Ocean through the Faroe-Icelandic border.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Yuriy71

I am a geologist, who has more than 45 scientific articles, reports and other works published all over the world.

Certainly not a trololologist?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Yuriy71

It's not for you to give me recommendations)

Mr. geo-LOG, what about the tactics and OI of the fleet? Also, I suppose all the walls are pasted over with works?
Therefore, there is no need to teach people how to live. They have their own life experience and their own views on the combat use of the system, about which nothing is reliably known, except for PR actions.
By the way, 2M39 is also used against the AMG and against the naval base - too. So it's not a fact that the "tsunami" is the only way to use this wunderwafele.
AHA.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Yuriy71

look at the map !!! I am a geologist who has more than 45 scientific articles, reports and other works published all over the world .... It is not for you to give me recommendations))))))

When I was sitting on the site in the evening
A shaggy geologist broke into a branch

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Yuriy71

Study performance characteristics, available information,

A torpedo (Poseidon) with unlimited range can sail around the entire continent to be blown up in the most suitable place for this. And in the Pacific Ocean, try to find a carrier of this very Poseidon (and if you believe the data already published, then a carrier of 6 Poseidons)

[Galleon]

Yura, you are not a geologist - you are an offended geologist, and I am a retired officer with two upper formations, and I know what to talk about when and what it is better to keep silent about. When I start talking about the structure of the crust in one place or another, signs of minerals outcropping or methods of exploration, you will be able to drive me through the textbooks. And here in this thread it is better to keep quiet about your achievements - they are not in business. Quite the opposite: among scientists there are many freaks with dislocations in everyday life. You and I have different brains, but that doesn't mean yours are better. I wasn't going to offend you, but you just squealed. You shouldn't lose face like that. How do you behave with your subordinates? ..

[lucul]

Poseidon carriers are more needed in the Atlantic direction. There, the coast of the United States and Canada is mostly low-lying and you can cause colossal tsunamis, with deep penetration into the depths of the enemy's territory!

Especially at the mouth of the Mississippi)))

[aleksandroff]

listen, geologist, look at the map and tell me where is the Atlantic Ocean and where is Russia. Apparently from the north they will go to the Atlantic. People are sitting there no worse than you.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Yuriy71

I think (IMHO) - not rational use of funds, based on the characteristics of this product, which were announced !!!

Is there a reason to write to the General Staff ... or Shoigu right away? Taking into account the unlimited radius of action, they can send around Cape Horn. But in the Pacific Ocean there is no such anti-submarine curtain.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Yuriy71

! Why are they in the Pacific Fleet?

There is a question and why are they at all.
No, a carrier for small underwater vehicles is probably needed in principle; some kind of tasks can be thought up.
But why exactly Poseidons are needed - long-range high-speed torpedoes with a powerful warhead, this is a moot point.

[sabakina]

Constantine, why do you need eyes? You can hear it so well ...

[Alex777]

But why exactly Poseidons are needed - long-range high-speed torpedoes with a powerful warhead, this is a moot point.

Reagan, ask why he started SDI?
Let the States spend money on protection.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Alex777

Let the States spend money on protection.

A very sensible idea, however! (from)
Colleague, you are right. According to the report of the Pentagon Budget Committee, it is already planned to lay down up to 7 long-range submarine detection vessels, and the Navy has begun designing and R&D of a new SSN (SSN(X)), specifically to combat new underwater threats. These threats, in addition to the newest SSNs/SSGNs, include Poseidon-class UUVs.
So now they "let them fly" (c)

[Alex777]

According to the report of the Pentagon's Budget Commission, it is already planned to lay down up to 7 vessels for long-range detection, and the Navy has begun the design and R&D of a new submarine (SSN (X)), specifically to deal with new underwater threats.

Moreover, all these efforts do not guarantee anything to the States.

[Alexander Lysenko]

All our know-how on pl Americans decided with ONE modernized torpedo.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Yuriy71

Why are they in the Pacific Fleet?

California sir, large industrial area

[figwam]

Quote: Yuriy71

with deep penetration into the depths of the enemy's territory!

Poseidons are not needed to create a colossal tsunami, Poseidons are needed to destroy the seaports of the United States with the subsequent infection of this territory, because of which the United States will be cut off from the whole world for decades, which will lead to the guaranteed death of the United States as a superpower.

[Sergey Nikiforov]

You might think we will remain safe and sound Or the bright road to heaven, guaranteed by our leader, warms your soul? So he guaranteed a lot

[URAL72]

Why are they in the Pacific Fleet? "

Then, to explain to the Japanese how to attack Pearl Harbor. By the way, all American SSBNs are based near Seattle - Bangor base. Although Norfolk is closer to Moscow, besides, they are being built there. Again, Japan, China, Australia cannot be very relaxed ... Well, Hollywood, this brainwashing factory, including ours, is also an important goal together with Los Angeles.

[tralflot1832]

But what about Japan with its seismic activity, as it is even a shame for the Japanese.

[Alex777]

And the Japanese are doing badly. If anything, one button is enough for everyone.

[tralflot1832]

The Japanese today admired the actions of the Provocateur near the Crimea. Even after their enthusiasm, I do not mind Poseidon for them!

[Alex777]

They have a special point.
1 charge in this place and no Japan.
And we know that, and they know that we know.

[tralflot1832]

Hokkaido will either remain, or else it's scary for Vladivostok.

[Alex777]

Hokkaido will either remain, or else it's scary for Vladivostok.

Until we press the button, we will not know for sure.

[voyaka uh]

That's right.
Underwater earthquakes occur quite often in the world, not far from
from the coast. Power equivalent to multi-megawatt nuclear bombs.
But tsunamis are extremely rare. Tsunamis are difficult to create artificially.
During a tsunami, millions of tons of water rise above the general sea level
and slowly fill the coast.
An underwater nuclear explosion can cause several high tidal waves.
But this is not a tsunami. And these waves will not cause massive destruction on the shore.

[Alex777]

I respect your opinion, but I can't add anything else to what I have already said.
And I have already said a lot.

[Alexander Lysenko]

You saw Poseidon live, you know, read the test report ?? Otherwise I'm Batman.

[Normann]

This is primarily a deterrent weapon. Or did we decide to attack someone?

[Aag]

Quote: Yuriy71

Poseidon carriers are more needed in the Atlantic direction. There, the coast of the United States and Canada is mostly low-lying and you can cause colossal tsunamis, with deep penetration into the depths of the enemy's territory! Why are they in the Pacific Fleet? The coast of the United States is here - grandiose mountain systems, which will, in fact, be an obstacle! For the destruction of some naval bases, other conventional means could well be used. I think (IMHO) - not rational use of funds, based on the characteristics of this product, which were announced !!!

You see, what is the catch, well, there is no Atlantic Fleet in the Russian Navy!))))

[Aag]

Quote: AAG

Quote: Yuriy71

Poseidon carriers are more needed in the Atlantic direction. There, the coast of the United States and Canada is mostly low-lying and you can cause colossal tsunamis, with deep penetration into the depths of the enemy's territory! Why are they in the Pacific Fleet? The coast of the United States is here - grandiose mountain systems, which will, in fact, be an obstacle! For the destruction of some naval bases, other conventional means could well be used. I think (IMHO) - not rational use of funds, based on the characteristics of this product, which were announced !!!

You see, what is the catch, well, there is no Atlantic Fleet in the Russian Navy!))))

... No, I don't mind if we have, say, the Michigan, or, better, the Ontario Red Banner Flotilla ... But so far only the Caspian is available ... (((

[tralflot1832]

In good summer weather, the Barents Sea cannot be distinguished from the Black Sea, but the divers were at work that day. Good luck in testing!

[Ros 56]

Well, okay, it will gradually master its role in the general concept of the Navy.

[Erik]

Looking at all these "Poseidons" one gets the impression that the Russian Federation does not know how to calm down a potential adversary in any other way, except with some kind of ba-da-boom.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Erik

Looking at all these "Poseidons" one gets the impression that the Russian Federation does not know how to calm down a potential adversary in any other way, except with some kind of ba-da-boom.

Are you suggesting to persuade, hand out candy, beg and cry?

[Erik]

I suggest not to follow the lead of the local bourgeoisie, which with the hands and blood of hard workers in the Russian Federation wants to take its place under the sun! displacing Germany, for example, etc. think carefully before answering.

[Xnumx vis]

That is The whole world of violence we will destroy
To the groundfirst, and then
We are ours, we will build a new world,
Who was nobody will he become everything? We have already passed this laugh ...

[Erik]

I don't even know ... Why? Have you destroyed something already? World War I? Not? World War II, also not? Think even better!

[Erik]

Wow, how many minuses! :) Painful ...

[Essex62]

This "giggle" will always be a nightmare in the bourgeois gut.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Essex62

This "giggle" will always be a nightmare in the bourgeois gut.

This joke cost Russia tens of millions of lives. Ordinary simple people. The bourgeoisie always manages to escape with money and business abroad. And the new "gentlemen-comrades" begin their deadly harvest.

[Essex62]

At the turning point they always perish. The goal was worthy. Freedom, equality, brotherhood. The goal was achieved, on the whole. And not all the hangers-on bourgeois with the bloodsucking nobles managed to escape. "In the name of the Revolution for the enemies of the working people..." If you are talking about the current time, then this is no longer relevant. You will be sacked even without the Bolsheviks, by your own upper crust. As soon as the crisis comes.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Essex62

They always die at the bend. It was a worthy goal. Freedom equality Brotherhood.

Are you and all your family and relatives ready to die for this goal?

[Essex62]

I've already died for her. At 93, when the backbone was thrown around my neck with tank fools. He did not die, but the huckster came.

[Xnumx vis]

This is demagogy! Are you really ready to give your relatives to death for a "bright idea"? Personally, I don't need such an idea.

[Essex62]

Where did you see demagoguery? Biography fact. As an honest communist, he tried to prevent the restoration of capitalism in the USSR.
So I feel sorry for the grandchildren. But I do not accept the bourgeois power. Dilem.
And do not worry you so. Since then, the bourgeoisie have grown wiser. They will not be brought to the situation of 17 of the last century. They will slowly feed you from your hand and pour propaganda into your ears about the advantages of private property. In any case, while the pipe is functioning. And there it will turn out. Maybe you will be the first to climb the barricades when the children have nothing to eat.

[Xnumx vis]

These are not the same "communists" these days! There are plenty of scoundrels climbing to power. I know some of them personally. They will climb to power over the corpses of their compatriots, justifying their actions with the "bright idea of ​​equality!" So, evolution is better than revolution.

[Essex62]

Who argues? Only in the entire history of mankind no one has ever given away what was acquired fairly. And the world of profit and filthy lucre, by definition, is not capable of evolving towards justice and equality. The world of a predator tearing his own, even if there is no need for it. Modern technologies already allow us to saturate the life activity of all mankind with the necessary product. But capitalism gets in the way. If one person needs, for example, only one car and one home, why the hell does he need 10 Mercedes and three palaces? Do you understand what I mean?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Essex62

If one person needs, for example, only one car and one home, what for him 10 Mercedes and three palaces.? Do you understand what I mean?

For vanity. There is also the concept of generational capital. Something that exists in the West, which we don't like, and is absent here. My great-grandfather in the Penza province had three sons, three daughters-in-law, he and his wife. Four horses, five cows and land. They all lived under one roof, worked together. They were dispossessed. The Ukrainian grandfather increased his father's inheritance, built a mill on a small river, had to give everything up and move across the country to the Far East, where he was declared an enemy of the people. An illiterate peasant, who was a prisoner during the First World War. And then everything went at a gallop and over bumps ... Mishka, the perestroika of the rayka ..

[Essex62]

Here everything is more complicated and simpler. No matter what the priests chirp, old Darwin was right. Having stood on two bones, Homo sapiens did not stop being a predator. Dominant. That is why there is a desire to grab and have, to rise, to step on the head of one's neighbor. Brains need to be upgraded. The Bolsheviks did not succeed the first time. There were also immeasurable predators there. With the same motivation, dominant.
My seven has a similar story. Great-grandfather to support his family, five girls and a little boy, went to serve in the police. Guards on the streets of Tver. What are they ... city. And of course the enemy of the people. I've been plowing all my life, but here I got fucked up. Exactly before the Revolution, with all that it implies.
Civil war is a terrible thing. Our own against our own. I also couldn't imagine that my own from the BO would be imprisoned for me. My brain was boiling from this.

[agond]

And I wonder if such a large boat can go unnoticed into the Atlantic?

[CYM]

"With a kind word and a gun, you can accomplish much more than just a kind word." (Al Capone). And this character was a great connoisseur of Anglo-Saxon psychology.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Erik

I don't even know ... Why? Have you destroyed something already? World War I? Not? World War II, also not? Think even better!

You that fell from the sky?

[sen]

Poseidon is just the first step. The technology of conducting submarine warfare must be revised, this is now being done in Russia and around the world. This opinion was expressed in an interview with a TASS correspondent by the scientific director of the Krylov State Scientific Center (KGNTs) Valery Polovinkin.
"I believe that the boat of the future is a boat that carries the launching positions. That is, the boat went out - placed the launching position of its weapons, and left."
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/11748529
A similar proposal was discussed in the article "Weapons against aircraft carriers" back in 2004.
https://disk.yandex.ru/i/GAv0eCNx-JUMZQ

[Laksamana besar]

Oh, how, it turns out by the end of the year the Russian Navy will receive not two, but three nuclear submarines.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

An excellent system for bypassing US missile defense.

Let the United States now live with the feeling that at any moment an unmanned nuclear weapon of enormous power launched at them thousands of kilometers under water could be detonated in their naval bases.

[petrol cutter]

* As reported, the experimental carrier of marine drones "Poseidon" first entered the ZHI in the White Sea on June 25. There is no information on how long this stage will last and how many submarine exits to the sea are planned. *
There can't be any. There will be exactly as many exits as necessary.
This is how it is done in any country.

[Kama74]

I just don't understand one thing ..
Why would a torpedo with an unlimited range need a carrier?

[Vadim237]

Because these are torpedoes equipping a submarine, there are photographs of Belgorod

and from a different angle

[Kama74]

I got it .. I don’t get it, Why do these torpedoes have a submarine?

[tolmachiev51]

what have you read !? -read carefully again, especially the beginning of the article.

[Vadim237]

Yes, because these torpedoes are ammunition, although they have control systems and everything else, but they need a basing place.

[Kama74]

Duck base at any base and send as needed.
And the carrier will be constantly under control and sight ...

[tolmachiev51]

- "At the moment it is known, again from various sources" - I do not like such scribbles, they are very similar to OBS,

[Lew]

any testing of our weapons, it's great ...

[Ivanushka Ivanov]

What are you getting excited about, wealthy moles? Wishful thinking, smeared a bunch of snot, offended the geologist))) The author writes in black and white - Poseidons are a separate topic. They are out of the question. When will this notorious cartoon character appear - a question. I hope the project is real - the machine is not small, theoretically it is possible to shove a small reactor. The algorithm of movement at a depth of 1000m is also theoretically possible to lay, but there are many factors that cannot be taken into account in principle, the most difficult is underwater currents, which can just demolish a torpedo and the whole trajectory - down the drain. Therefore, going around the continents - swamp crap. But straight from Kamchatka - it is quite possible to calculate such a focus plus or minus a kilometer, which, as I understand it, is not critical. However, how it is managed is a big secret. I would do a simple trick: plus or minus the moaning of km to the target according to the algorithm, then it rises to the surface, throws out the buoy, determines the coordinates, the program is updated and forward with the song.
IMHO Bulava - this is what is real and at the same time cool we have today.