General Director of Shipyard "Yantar" spoke about the construction progress of the second pair of BDK project 11711

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Construction of the second pair of large landing ships of the modernized project 11711 is proceeding according to schedule, both large landing ships are at the stage of hull formation. This was announced by Ilya Samarin, General Director of the Yantar Baltic Shipyard.

According to the CEO who leads TASS, by the end of this year, the body of one of the two large landing ships will be formed. We are talking about the ship "Vladimir Andreev". All work is on schedule, there is no lag. Also, by the end of this year, it is planned to complete the release of working design documentation, to contract the entire volume of component equipment, products and systems.



Samarin did not explain anything about the second large landing craft "Vasily Trushin". Nevertheless, a couple of days ago, the Yantar press service clarified that the body of the first large landing craft has already been fully formed, and by the end of the month it will be put on the slipway for final work. In parallel, work is underway to form the corps and the second large landing ship, all major cycles have been completed.

The second pair of the large landing craft "Vladimir Andreev" and "Vasily Trushin" was laid down on the "Yantar" according to the modernized project 11711. Compared to the first ships of the project, the new large landing ships have an approximately 40% increased displacement, which in turn implies a greater landing capacity of these ships ... The transfer to the Navy is scheduled for 2023-2024.
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  1. +5
    24 June 2021 12: 15
    All work is on schedule, there is no backlog
    And staying ahead of schedule is even better! hi
    1. +7
      24 June 2021 12: 18
      The USC also announced the timing of the start of construction of the lead frigate of Project 22350M.

      The main frigate of Project 22350M is planned to start building after 2024, said Vladimir Korolev, President for military shipbuilding of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC), former commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy.

      “The construction of the frigate (project 22350M - ed.) Will begin after the completion of the boathouse at the Severnaya Verf in 2024,” Korolev explained to RIA Novosti.

      At a press conference during the X International Maritime Defense Show, he announced that a total of eight Project 22350 frigates are planned to be built, and after that construction will begin on "a new modernized ship 22350M, which has a more powerful combat potential and has good weapons."

      https://m.vz.ru/news/2021/6/23/1105488.html

      The main large surface ship of the far sea zone in the Ministry of Defense is now the future "large" frigate of project 22350M. This ship with a displacement of approximately 8000 tons (the "Leader" promised from 13000 tons) and the main power plant based on gas turbines that Russia can produce - marching M-70 and afterburner M-90FRU, promises to be much easier to create, build and inevitable refinement than a gigantic atomic missile strike ship, the analogs of which have never been built by anyone in the world (TAKRs of project 1144 "Orlan", the most famous representative of which is "Peter the Great", although more "Leader", but much more modest in terms of capabilities and apparently simpler technically). In addition, it is absolutely unambiguous that the 22350M project will be incommensurably cheaper.

      https://m.vz.ru/society/2020/4/19/1035074.html
      1. +8
        24 June 2021 12: 19
        You cannot be ahead of the schedule.
        There is a production technology.

        For example, concrete rises in 28 days.
        I understand that these ships are not made of concrete. wassat

        But haste is just as undesirable as lagging.
        1. 0
          24 June 2021 12: 51
          Quote: For example
          You cannot be ahead of the schedule.
          There is a production technology.

          Well, yes, there is a technology for "relocation of reproductive organs" and there is a technology for large-block assembly.
      2. -3
        24 June 2021 19: 17
        And so, everything is very leisurely. For the period that has passed since the bookmark, the ships have already been handed over, but here the hull has not yet been formed. But this is a landing ship, not a combat one.
        ...
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        The main frigate of project 22350M is planned to start building after 2024

        They are also in no hurry ...
        Boathouse ... for the ship VI 7000 - 8 tons ... But what about the BOD 000 built in the Baltic before?
        Destroyers?
        VI up to 8 t.
        Or is there still no gearbox?
        Are they working on it?
        And if they do not work, then why?
        Is it because all the design forces were thrown into an absurd gearbox for a hypertrophied scam with the "corvette of the future" 20386?
        Which will now be at best a test vessel?
        And how is this to be understood, except as a CONSCIOUS UNDERSTANDING OF THE NAVY OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION?
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        in total, it is planned to build eight frigates of project 22350, and after that the construction of a "new modernized

        Stop stop. 10 of these ships were ordered (two in service, six on stocks and completion, two more were ordered, but not laid yet).
        Or how ?
        Already refused?
        Or, again, empty chatter with promises of who knows what, without reference to what was said earlier?
        Owners of their word.
        And masters of the spoken genre.
        As well as idlers, inept and saboteurs.
        The result of their efforts to master them is that Russia does not have a Fleet.

        In Kerch, a year ago, two UDCs were laid ... I wonder if they welded at least something to the mortgage sections in a year?
        1. +1
          26 June 2021 00: 24
          Respected bayard!
          What do you miss all the time?

          During the period that has passed since the bookmark, the ships have already been handed over, and here the hull has not yet been formed. But this is a landing ship, not a combat one.

          You probably know that these two ships have nothing in common with the two that have been built for more than 10 years.
          Everything is going fine.

          Or is there still no gearbox?
          Are they working on it?

          You know everything, you understand everything. There are no Zircons yet.

          Is it because all the design forces were thrown into an absurd gearbox for a hypertrophied scam with the "corvette of the future" 20386?

          We have already discussed this topic. Let's wait until 2023. Going?

          Which will now be at best a test vessel?

          There is no need to reproduce Timokhin's fantasy. They have already been refuted.

          Owners of their word.
          And masters of the spoken genre.
          As well as idlers, inept and saboteurs.
          The result of their efforts to master them is that Russia does not have a Fleet.

          Did you decide to broadcast Ukrainian fakes to us? What for?

          In Kerch, a year ago, two UDCs were laid ... I wonder if they welded at least something to the mortgage sections in a year?

          There, too, everything is according to plan. The first ship will be handed over in 5 years.
          Yours sincerely. hi
          1. +1
            26 June 2021 03: 00
            hi
            Quote: Alex777
            What do you miss all the time?

            Until recently, "Yantar" built frigates pr. 11356 in 3 years from laying to delivery. And in Soviet times, BODs were surrendered in the same period. And today is not at all the times when you can happily wait when a cancer whistles on the mountain - today every pennant counts. And what difficulties can there be with an 8000-ton amphibious assault ship, when structurally it is slightly more complicated than an ordinary seiner? Especially when forming his body? Why arrange this long-term construction again?
            And the melancholy really takes place, because the programs do not go. Neither in aircraft construction, nor in shipbuilding ... "Zvezda" is odd not only with old high-speed diesel engines, but also with the production of gearboxes. What is the use of manufactured turbines if the gearboxes are not supplied to them on time? The last frigates 22350 laid down are to be commissioned in 2025 - 2026. , and now it turns out that the power plant will be delivered to them in 2025 ... And when can we expect the extreme now? If after delivery there is still at least a year of slipway work (because the hulls are waiting for the power plant in "open" form), then launching and completion afloat for another two years ... and a year for testing. By 2030?
            The problems of Reducer Stars have not been resolved at all, and now there are also litigations, possible nationalization, change of ownership, new administration ... the enterprise will shake (and it would be good if it is useful), this will affect the quality of work and staff turnover. ..
            And managers do not have the ability, or even the propensity for percussion work. This can be seen across all industries. Laxity and irresponsibility.
            The air already smells of gunpowder, and we have the "right people" all play with corruption spillikins. We do not even have high-speed ships to defend our maritime borders to keep up with the intruder. When an FSB boat drags after an English destroyer at 21 knots, when it leaves freely at 30 knots ... it's sad ...
            Because the warning fire was already fired strongly in pursuit, from a great distance ... and not from a parallel course under the nose of the intruder.
            The aviation did not disappoint well and the bombs on the course were a good decision.
            Quote: Alex777
            You know everything, you understand everything. There are no Zircons yet.

            There would be ships, and "Onyxes" would have come down to the times of the best.
            But there are no ships or Zircons.
            Quote: Alex777
            There is no need to reproduce Timokhin's fantasy. They have already been refuted.

            Who denied them?
            USC?
            So they are promoting nuclear aircraft carriers every year and report about their readiness to build them.
            And about the atomic "Leaders" only recently calmed down ... for a long time ...
            They are also dragging this burp of an engineering "genius" - 20386.
            And the useless freak 22160 insists in the series to continue ...

            Opinion ... or rather, the decision that 20386 will not be adopted for service and, at best, will take place as an experimental vessel, said the High Command. Customer.
            But the fact that Zvezda's feeble production capacity, instead of the rapid pace of delivery of travel gearboxes for frigates 22350 (really needed by the Navy like air), is poking around with an innovative and unparalleled power plant for 20386 (which will only be suitable for experiments ... someday ), to the detriment of the order under pr. 22350 ... this is already sabotage. But the source of this sabotage (name, position, place in the vertical) I would very much like to see ... and in handcuffs and in the dock.
            The Fleet does not need either 20386 or 22160, or the Leader with a reactor, or the Storm with bells.
            We need frigates 22350.
            We need corvettes 20385, but with a serial radar from those available in production, and not a non-working "Zaslon" (from the left executor) ... This is what I am telling you as a radar specialist (in the past).
            Quote: Alex777
            Did you decide to broadcast Ukrainian fakes to us? What for?

            What Ukrainian ones? request You listen, read what really smart people say about these figures. Look at the results of their deeds for yourself ...
            Back in 2001, one deputy. Minister (woman) complained to me what ... what "geniuses" she has to communicate with - zero knowledge, she cannot connect two words, formulate an idea ... but which were taken over by entire industries and the largest enterprises ...
            And since then they have become bronze. The negative selection did not just take place, but gave its weighty fruits ...
            I've met some of these ...
            Just look at what is happening with the aircraft industry ... continuous grotesque and Homeric reaction ...
            It's the same with military shipbuilding ...
            One continuous PR, window dressing and irresponsibility.
            Everything is like before RYAV ...
            Even worse ...
            And the golden time for the right actions, alas, has already been lost.
            I am afraid that we may not make it to 2023. And even if we hold out, then nothing will radically change in this swamp. There will be no AWACS aircraft, no new PLO aircraft, no MRA, no Il-78MD90A tankers ...
            We have combat fighters in tactical aviation (and air defense) two times less than that of China ... 450 - 480 for the entire Unlimited ... without reliable means of combat control.
            And no action is taken ...
            It's even worse with new ships. If by 2023 - 2024 two more frigates enter service (!!! request ), then it will be just a holiday ... The "Kuznetsov" and "Nakhimov" that have come out of repair and modernization can slightly sweeten the pill, but this is also a pitchfork on the waters ...
            There is such a thing as loss of trust.
            This is a very difficult concept.
            And I'm not happy with him.
            Quote: Alex777
            In Kerch, a year ago, two UDCs were laid ... I wonder if they welded at least something to the mortgage sections in a year?

            There, too, everything is according to plan. The first ship will be handed over in 5 years.

            I would very much like to live up to this, but in our reality, for such a period, only RTOs and a corvette can be built ... It's not the result that matters to them ...
            A process.
            From which the whole gesheft.
            These are not "Stalinist People's Commissars".
            So I don't see any reasons for optimism yet ...
            Unfortunately .
            hi
        2. +1
          26 June 2021 01: 15
          laughing and now since when is the design bureau responsible for the assembly .. especially considering the fact that different shipyards and different design bureaus are engaged?
          1. 0
            26 June 2021 07: 42
            What KB? I'm talking about the industry and the economy in general.
            And the fact that we have already had more or less turbines for a year and a half or two is known.
            Another thing is that not only turbines and a diesel engine are needed for a power plant, but also a REDUCER.
            And only Zvezda makes them. And it does not cope with the tasks.
            1. -2
              26 June 2021 11: 10
              lol those. at first I screwed up, and then excuses went ...
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      1. -5
        24 June 2021 12: 21
        Quote: For example
        You cannot be ahead of the schedule.

        Is it possible to move to the right?
        But what about the USSR: "Five-year plan in three years" !?
        1. +4
          24 June 2021 13: 54
          But what about the USSR: "Five-year plan in three years" !?

          Tell a story?
          This is how the metro bridge was built on the Lenin Hills. We decided to build it 2 times faster.
          Very simply, according to the plan, concrete work was not carried out in winter (now there are technologies that allow such work to be carried out). And then they decided to just add salt to the solution a lot of salt.
          The bridge was built 2 times faster, and it stood THREE TIMES less than the design period. Explain why?
          1. +1
            24 June 2021 14: 03
            Quote: bk316
            Tell a story?

            Fools were, are and will be! But organizing work to speed up the process - is there a lack of tyam? There was such a thing in the USSR - NOT! The scientific organization of labor is called, there was something to learn!
            1. +1
              24 June 2021 14: 06
              There was such a thing in the USSR - NOT!

              So the plans were already drawn up taking into account the NOT.
              I can still tell first-hand how the plans were overfulfilled at BAM ...
              1. 0
                24 June 2021 14: 13
                Quote: bk316
                plans were overfulfilled ...

                I am aware of ... And about the counter plan, etc. ... I'm talking about something else - Shifting the deadlines is accepted with a bang, and fulfillment on time, or earlier, is perceived with hostility! Is it absurd, or is everyone already accustomed to failure to meet deadlines and tasks?
                1. +1
                  24 June 2021 22: 45
                  Quote from Uncle Lee
                  Is it absurd, or is everyone already accustomed to failure to meet deadlines and tasks?
                  sorry, but it seems to me that ABSURD is not this, but in, -
                  According to the general director, quoted by TASS, the corps of one of the two large landing ships will be formed by the end of this year. We are talking about the ship "Vladimir Andreev". All work is on schedule, there is no lag. Also by the end of this year, it is planned to complete the release of working-design documentation, to contract the entire volume of component equipment, products and systems.
                  but that TWO years after the actual laying of the ships and their construction, sound (do not hesitate and out loud) words, - "... Also by the end of this year, it is planned to complete the release of working-design documentation"...
                  Excuse me, but how did you build for TWO years,?!, Without - working design documentation ... ? !! belay
                  1. +1
                    24 June 2021 23: 05
                    Excuse me, but how did you build for TWO years,

                    This is a mystery only at first glance. The answer is in the second part of the phrase about equipment. We were building the building, but the filling was not done yet. This is certainly a bad practice, but as far as I know it is practically a tradition since the early Soviet Union.
                    1. 0
                      24 June 2021 23: 11
                      Quote: bk316
                      This is a mystery only at first glance. The answer is in the second part of the phrase about equipment. We were building the building, but the filling was not done yet. This is certainly a bad practice, but as far as I know it is practically a tradition since the early Soviet Union.
                      that is, you think that you can build ship hulls without having an approved project in your hands, and, accordingly, working design documentation ? !! belay Did I get the gist of your comment correctly?
                      1. 0
                        24 June 2021 23: 14
                        not having an approved project on hand

                        And you read about air defense systems for our projects, the technical assignment was altered when the ships were not just on the water, but already on the move.
                        The same garbage was with guns in the USSR.
                        How did it happen? I don’t know, but it’s true.
                        It was even cooler with the nuclear submarine, where the ICBM manufacturer was changed.
                        As a result, other missiles were installed ...
                      2. -1
                        24 June 2021 23: 20
                        Quote: bk316
                        And you read about air defense systems for our projects, the technical assignment was altered when the ships were not just on the water, but already on the move.
                        what does air defense have to do with it? In this case, we are talking about BDK ... But from your words, they can be built without working design documentation (!)... According to the draft design (or sketch) the ships were built for two years ? !! How is that ? !!
                      3. 0
                        24 June 2021 23: 23
                        what does air defense have to do with it? In this case, we are talking about BDK ....

                        Well, the large landing craft also has weapons and special equipment, other of course. You read the entire phrase in its entirety.
                        Also, by the end of this year, it is planned to complete the release of working design documentation, to contract the entire volume of component equipment, products and systems.

                        Documentation not on the ship itself, but on equipment, products and systems.
                2. +1
                  24 June 2021 23: 10
                  I'm talking about something else - a shift in deadlines is accepted with a bang, and fulfillment on time, or earlier, is perceived with hostility

                  Trust me both (deadline shifts) for big projects are BAD.
                  Why is it bad to do it earlier?
                  Imagine that you have made a new nuclear submarine 2 times faster than the plan.
                  But they did not manage to train the team, and did not have time to dock, and not only the berth, but the entire service infrastructure.
                  And it stands as a dead weight and is aging faster.
                  And if the reactor was also loaded, then in general, consider the combat life reduced ...
    3. 0
      24 June 2021 12: 27
      -Vladimir: And being ahead of the schedule is even better!
      Do not forget that this is not a simple process, there are dozens of enterprises involved here. Somewhere the slightest glitch, and that's it.
      1. 0
        24 June 2021 12: 34
        Quote: knn54
        not an easy process

        Nicholas hi I am directly related to the fleet and I understand what it is ... And the organization of the construction process is an important and responsible matter! It is too tough for managers, but there are still normal specialists!
        1. -2
          24 June 2021 13: 20
          some of them will be called "Toyota's memory" - they will put on the capture of Kyushu

          ..................................................
    4. +5
      24 June 2021 12: 42
      April 2019 - 2023/24. 4 and 5 years old. At the same time, a ship with a displacement of 2/3 from Makassar, without a docking chamber, with a short superstructure (that is, habitability is again subsidized, the marines must endure the hardships and hardships bravely), which are built in 16 months.
      Cutting steel 22 January 2015
      Descent 18 January 2016
      Commissioning of a foreign customer (Philippines) 1 June 2016

      At the same time, the Indonesians built PT PAL.




      1. +4
        24 June 2021 13: 27
        which take 16 months to build.

        Have you ever collected anything yourself in your life?
        Well, the engine was dismantled and assembled there, maybe some furniture at worst? If they collected, then they should know that the first time is always very slow, with each new time the speed of work increases (actions reach automatism), and after 1000 times (and more) the speed of work approaches the robot.
        So it is here - we have not had a series for a long time, each ship (pair) goes according to a modernized design. And this is always long.
        1. -1
          24 June 2021 14: 06
          Well it is more like Yes. However, after this pair, there will probably be a new pair, according to a new or modernized design. And so on. Again, the modern leadership of the Navy does not like building series very much. But he loves unique or paired ships wink

          However, in general, after 2 Grens, Amber for good cannot appeal to this. The advantage of this project, from the competitor of the Krylov Center (where also a large landing ship for 2 helicopters was blinded by preliminary development) is in a single logistics chain, a large degree of unification.
          1. +1
            24 June 2021 18: 08
            This is a perfectly reasonable practice, gradual revision and improvement of the project, taking into account the operating experience. Alas, Russia will not yet pull large series of bad ships.
      2. +1
        24 June 2021 13: 51
        But I did not expect this from you. The Filipino is certainly good, but in fact it is an ordinary dry cargo ship equipped with a flight deck and a hangar. In principle, it is impossible to compare it and the BDK.
        1. -2
          24 June 2021 14: 05
          Well, is Gren the new support cruiser?

          In fact:
          Gren and Makassar are carrying 2 helicopters with hangar storage.
          +/- the same landing capacity, with a difference in group formation.
          the range of Maccasar is greater.
          peak landing capacity is also greater (up to 800 people with equipment).

          At the same time, Makassar has two tank-landing high-speed boats, and Gren can only drop the amphibious group, well, or go to try his luck with his nose into the ground. Again, Makassar is insured against a suddenly revived T-72 or gunner battery of howitzers at the landing site. Try to get into the tank landing boat. Mines again on the site, which were missed. But Green walking at a speed of less than 1 knot gathers all this into himself. I’m already silent that he could quite realistically fail the entire operation without opposition, simply running aground or getting off the route a little, as Oslyabya did at his own training ground, where they landed every year


          As a result, Gren's only advantage is probably greater survivability with combat damage and two points better ice class (however, ice strengthening can be done on Makassar as well).
          1. 0
            24 June 2021 14: 22
            you can also compare the price tag ...
          2. +1
            24 June 2021 18: 27
            There are civil and military shipbuilding standards. They are quite different. The same "mistrals" for example. They were built according to civilian standards, and therefore relatively inexpensive and fast. Problems will begin later, when you have to go into battle.
    5. 0
      24 June 2021 17: 18
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      All work is on schedule, there is no backlog
      And staying ahead of schedule is even better! hi

      Our shipbuilding industry is reviving in Russia! And this is great .. And in the 90s everyone was falling apart and Gaidar and Chubais were shouting, why do we need to create something ourselves, when you can buy everything .. I remembered these words for the rest of my life and I hate liberians at the genetic level .. negative
    6. 0
      25 June 2021 16: 01
      Not better. The schedule was drawn up for this, so that the subcontractors could perform the work, and so that the staff of the enterprise worked in a regular mode.
      Overfulfillment of the plan is a violation of production technology.
  2. +1
    24 June 2021 12: 18
    Here, that's what you need to think about, and not about the notorious Bison !!!
    1. +4
      24 June 2021 12: 22
      So do not think about the "notorious Bison !!!" wink

      Those who form the corps with this BDK also do not think about the "notorious Bison !!!" laughing
      1. -4
        24 June 2021 12: 25
        But how not to think, here through the news they are trying to advertise all this shit ...)
        How is it, would be glad to serve, to serve sickening)
        1. 0
          24 June 2021 12: 28
          Quote: Ruslan Sulima
          But how not to think, here through the news they are trying to advertise all this shit ...)

          I am silent but I want to strangle.
    2. 0
      24 June 2021 12: 24
      Quote: Ruslan Sulima
      Here, that's what you need to think about, and not about the notorious Bison !!!

      And I think that all the idiots are strangled.
      1. +4
        24 June 2021 12: 28
        Quote: tihonmarine
        And I think that all the idiots are strangled.

        Today is the best day
        Let the flags fly over the shelves
        Today is the best day
        Today is a battle with fools. laughing


        There is one problem ...

        Who will determine who is d.ura.k and who is not. winked
        1. +2
          24 June 2021 12: 45

          Who will determine who is d.ura.k and who is not. winked

          Well, here, probably, everything is simple)
          I understand the impact of ukrolobi in the information space. But, damn it, the Naval Forces of Ukraine will not do this with donated rubber boats and, as it were, bought by minesweepers stronger than the KChF
        2. 0
          24 June 2021 17: 06
          Quote: For example
          Today is the best day
          Let the flags fly over the shelves
          Today is the best day
          Today is a battle with fools.

          The ending was forgotten:
          When the last enemy fell,
          Trumpet lost the victory.
          Only at that moment did I realize
          How few of us are left. belay
    3. +3
      24 June 2021 12: 28
      Quote: Ruslan Sulima
      Here, that's what you need to think about, and not about the notorious Bison !!!


      It does not interfere.

      Gas turbine engine M70FRU


      Gas turbine engine M90FR


      ... In 2014, the second stage of the program was launched to develop and master the manufacture of marine gas turbine engines (GTE) and gas turbine units. In particular, at the end of 2017, three R&D projects were carried out at the UEC:
      • on the development of a technology for serial production of an engine with a capacity of 27 hp. for use as part of gas turbine units (GTU) of displacement ships;
      • on the development of a GTA based on the M70FRU-2 engine for hovercraft;
      • on the development of a reversible GTE M70FRU-R for displacement ships.


      ... "Within the framework of the existing scientific and technical groundwork and the results of the development work on the basic M70FRU gas turbine engine, new modifications of engines and units have been created in three years, which make it possible to completely replace the Ukrainian power plants for air-cushion ships and reversible engines in operation," TASS said Deputy General Director - General Designer of the UEC Yuri Shmotin. "The development of a 27 hp gas turbine engine in serial production allows for the completion of the customer's main power plants and makes it possible to create units for promising ships," he added.


      ... At present, UEC has mastered the production of marine engines for all surface ships of the Russian Navy with gas turbine power plants. "In particular, the corporation is ready to provide the Navy with engines for use in air-cushion landing ships of projects 12061 and 12322, corvettes of project 20386, frigates of projects 22350 / 22350M and 11356, as well as ships in operation during their modernization," UEC.


      ... Work is underway to create the latest power plants. In particular, a project is underway to develop a gas turbine unit for a promising frigate. The main engine will be the M70FRU, and the afterburner - the M90FR, developed by the UEC.


      ... In addition, the corporation has created a number of unified M70FRU engines with a capacity of 8000–10000 MW for ships of various purposes - corvettes, small rocket ships, small artillery ships, as well as ships with dynamic support (amphibious assault ships on an air cushion).

      https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/11715059
      1. -1
        24 June 2021 19: 35
        With turbines, everything is clear, but with gearboxes, how?
        1. 0
          24 June 2021 19: 58
          On this site there was infa that they brought to mind and tested gearboxes. Otherwise, how could power plants be supplied to ships without gearboxes?
      2. +2
        24 June 2021 22: 57
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        .... "In particular, the corporation is ready to provide the Navy with engines for use in air-cushion landing ships of projects 12061 and 12322, corvettes of project 20386, frigates of projects 22350 / 22350M and 11356, as well as ships in service during their modernization, "- noted in the UEC.
        belay apparently an article from the UEC is easier to write ... otherwise the question arises - "Where ?!" belay ... the same powertrains for 11356 R / M ... ? !! why the Butakov was not completed for the Navy, with a shortage of BNK ... ? !!
        Give an example of at least one power plant for the Russian Navy, where the M-70FRU GTE would be used (FRU-R) .... ? !! ... Not planned (!), But used? !!! .... To me personally, this kind of hints ... that it's easier to write an article about them than even try to put them on a warship ...
  3. 0
    24 June 2021 12: 41
    Yes, the cost is probably not frail in the buildings. Logistics either through St. Petersburg or through Lithuania, if the latter does not put a stick in the wheels.
    1. 0
      24 June 2021 13: 02
      Most likely the only way is by water through St. Petersburg, since it is the cheapest in comparison with overland delivery and is not limited in size, the shipyard itself is on the water, and no one needs to be told what we are carrying.
      1. -1
        24 June 2021 13: 06
        A rebellious thought has arisen, and the Krupp steel plants do not increase the defense capability of Russia by chance. They care about what kind of ships we make?
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          24 June 2021 13: 10
          Quote: tralflot1832
          A rebellious thought has arisen, and the Krupp steel plants do not increase the defense capability of Russia by chance. They care about what kind of ships we make?

          Capital always cares only about profit. What is made of metal can only be of interest to politicians and then if they think that they can be promoted on this.
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        24 June 2021 13: 22
        all the river-sea is driven. dr - blow your nose into a sheepskin ...

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    24 June 2021 16: 38
    The only thing that surprises me a little in this project is its number 11711. Well, there were and are BDKs of project 1171. And then there are completely different ships and the numbers are the same and. Perhaps this is such a military trick.

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