Yellow Star of David and vaccine discrimination in Russia

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Yegor Beroev publicly spat at the victims of the Holocaust. In addition, on the day the Great Patriotic War began. Screenshot: Youtube

My body is my business


The division of the population into two conventional camps: the vaccinated and the “refuseniks” is now an extremely unpopular measure. The Russian media space is simply bursting with the opinions of the disaffected comparing the situation with the Holocaust. The loudest was the revelation of the artist Yegor Beroev, who put on the yellow star of David at the TEFI - Chronicle of Victory television award ceremony. It happened on June 22, a tragic date for Russia. Beroev, in particular, said:

“I want to say today what worries me in the last two days. I've heard some here have already spoken out on this. I want to tell you that I have not been vaccinated against the coronavirus. And some of my friends were vaccinated. And even friends were vaccinated. This has never been the reason for our quarrels and disputes. We are adults, we respect each other's choices. You know: “My body is my business” ... I want to say that not a single human life, dignity can be sacrificed for the public good. It is written in blood in the Nuremberg Codex. A person is inseparable from his dignity and freedom of choice. Even if you do not like this choice, and you wish him exclusively well. I ask you, dear people present here, friends, colleagues, do not allow the separation of you and me, do not allow enmity between us, do not allow the segregation of society into smart and stupid, people with Down syndrome and without, white and black, Jews and non-Jews, vaccinated and the unvaccinated. It already happened once. And our grandfathers paid in blood to prevent this from happening again. "

Yellow Star of David and vaccine discrimination in Russia
Photo: Christian Emmer

What is it? Looking for a cheap hype, or is the actor seriously equating the Holocaust with the current situation?



The trick has already caused a controversial response. People accuse Beroev of belittling the tragedy of the Jews in World War II. It seems that the journalist Bozena Rynska put it most accurately:

“The yellow star in this situation belittles, belittles the tragedy of the Holocaust. Let's put on yellow stars on all occasions now! Unfried steak in a restaurant - a yellow star on the door - was also poorly fed in Auschwitz. The heat does not subside - drag the star - it was also stiflingly hot in the stoves, and yellow is a symbol of the scorching sun. They didn’t let a drunk on the subway - sculpt a hexagon in protest ”.

Beroev, by the way, copied his trick from the “enlightened West”.

In the American Nashville, at the end of May, one shop was disgraced, offering visitors to buy a yellow Star of David with the inscription Not vaccinated. Naturally sane Americans took the trick as an insult to the memory of the millions of exterminated Jews and boycotted the store. And the supplier of the goods tore up the contract.


They sold these patches in Nashville. Beroev took over the idea. Source: alexpashkov.livejournal.com

Europeans also regularly walked around with patches from Auschwitz during the protests. Such blasphemy has recently been officially banned in Munich. And in the liberal Russian get-together, the desecration of the memory of those burned in the furnaces of Nazi Germany turned out to be possible. At the same time, the time was very suitable - the beginning of a new wave of coronavirus, when Moscow beats records for mortality from infection.

The only correct solution in this situation is the general vaccination of the population. Some opinion leaders, of which Yegor Beroev undoubtedly belongs, deliberately sabotage this process. In the meantime, vaccination is now the only cure for the rapidly mutating coronavirus. There are currently no drugs that directly destroy the virus in the human body.

Vaccination program failure


The material that the Russians deliberately failed the coronavirus vaccination program was recently published on the Voennoye Obozreniye website. The article "The herd immunity fiasco: Russians waited for the third wave of COVID-19" there was a small poll in which readers were asked to give their opinion on vaccinations. The result is rather depressing - just over 42% of the more than XNUMX survey participants are against the vaccine. Of course, this opinion has the right to life, and it has something in common with Beroev's "My body is my business."

At the moment, the share of Russians who received two doses of the vaccine is only approaching 11%. This is not surprising - in our country there has long been a cult of denial of vaccinations. But there is an interesting point. The French in 2019 (when they did not know about the coronavirus yet) topped the global vaccine mistrust rating. On average, one French citizen out of three reacted negatively and refused any vaccination. Gabon was in second place two years ago, Togo in third, Russia in fourth. And Switzerland rounded out the top five. As the organizers of a study from the Gallup Institute assured in 2019, prosperous countries from the "golden billion" are on average more skeptical about vaccination than the population of poor countries. The reason is simple:

"There are more infectious diseases in third world countries, and their inhabitants no doubt know what happens when you are not vaccinated."

And in rich states, ordinary people argue:

"Why get vaccinated if domestic medicine will save you anyway?"

Covid turned everything upside down.

Now, in 2021, every fourth person is vaccinated in France, every third in Switzerland, Gabon and Togo with 0,6% does not make sense to consider - the vaccine is practically unavailable for the residents of these countries. But Russia, as it was among the "vaccine-deniers", and remained, despite the raging pandemic.

What happened and why in our country, the first in the world to create a vaccine, the population actually boycotted the vaccination against COVID-19?

It is not worth repeating once again about the general irresponsibility of Russian citizens in the vaccination campaign. The above-mentioned material "The herd immunity fiasco: Russians waited for the third wave of COVID-19" was devoted to this problem. But the citizens are not exclusively to blame.

Since the spring of this year, some complacency has appeared in the country's information space regarding the coronavirus. The "battle" of the Ministry of Health and Rospotrebnadzor about the further prospects of infection in Russia was indicative. While health workers have openly warned about the approach of a third wave since March, health officials have denied "panic." The words of the head of the department of the Research Institute of Epidemiology of Rospotrebnadzor Vadim Pokrovsky:

“To be honest, I do not expect a third wave at all. The immune layer is growing very quickly, both due to those who have been ill and due to vaccination, so there is no need to expect that there will be any other very large rise. There was data at the beginning of the month that 40% of the population in Moscow has antibodies to coronavirus. A month later, apparently, and more. The number of vaccinated people is growing rapidly, so very soon, I think, by May we will reach the level of 60% of the immunized population. And there it is already very close and up to 70%, which are considered the level when the epidemic stops. Of course, there will be isolated cases, maybe dozens of cases, but this will no longer be an epidemic. "

Russians who doubt the need for vaccination could well believe such optimism of another opinion leader in the professional community. The vaccination campaign itself in the country was sluggish. Billboards calling for vaccinations did not work very well, and the TV was filled with conflicting information about the dangers of Sputnik V.

As a result, it was necessary to send citizens to vaccination centers by force of restrictions.

Vaccinated and unvaccinated


The scenario that is now being played out in Moscow will probably spread throughout Russia in the near future. Virtually all crowded places are becoming COVID-19 free zones. And this is not Russian know-how - similar rules apply in a number of European countries, Israel and the United States.

Sergei Sobyanin clarified the upcoming tightening of the regime:

“From June 28, 2021, only visitors who have protection against the disease will be able to visit catering establishments: those who have been vaccinated; have had COVID-19 in the last 6 months; or have a negative PCR test valid for 3 days. "

Together with Moscow, more than ten regions of the country have already introduced compulsory vaccination for 60% of social workers. Despite the explosive growth in the incidence in Moscow and all of Russia (up to 30%), the authorities are not yet ready for large-scale lockdowns. In many ways, this will be unfair to vaccinated citizens.

Indeed, why should a person who has formed immunity in time for himself have to go into isolation, lose a source of income and limit himself in moving around the country?

Oppression of the vaccinated will already be seen here. The Kremlin is quite radical towards voluntary refuseniks. Dmitry Peskov in this connection:

“The reality is that discrimination is inevitable. People without immunity and without vaccination will not be able to work in all areas. It's impossible. It will pose a threat to others. "

As a result of the tough measures taken now, the country is experiencing a powerful influx of population to vaccination sites. In Moscow alone, the number of people wishing to get vaccinated against COVID-19 jumped 10 times in a couple of days.

Citizens who were waiting for a radical solution to the issue of vaccination before the summer were faced with a shortage of vaccines. How long this will delay the pace of vaccination is unknown, but the country's leadership assures that not for long. Revaccination claims add fuel to the fire. If a person received the vaccine, for example, 5-6 months ago, the concentration of antibodies in the blood may drop to an unacceptable level. This category of citizens will also create a certain demand for antikidny vaccinations.


Photo: kubnews.ru

Numerous opinion polls have been launched on social media regarding the prospects for compulsory vaccination. According to VK Rabota and ResearchMe services, up to 52% of respondents are not ready to be vaccinated even under pressure from their employer. The main reason is mistrust of domestic vaccinations.

In March 2021, the Levada Center previously conducted a large-scale survey of public opinion on COVID-19. As a result, it turned out that 56% of Russians are not at all afraid of contracting coronavirus - this is the maximum value for the entire pandemic. Amazingly, more than half of the respondents consider the coronavirus to be artificially created and a new form of biological weapons... As the researchers note, this situation was created by the Russian media, massively speculating on hot the news.

Now the main speculations are born around the dismissal of those who refused to be vaccinated. At the same time, none of the officials spoke about this.

Firstly, this directly contradicts the Constitution, and secondly, these are truly draconian measures, in no way connected with the preservation of public health. In the worst case, the antiquarian activist is threatened with dismissal without pay. By the way, we have been living in this regime for a very long time. For example, no one will hire a cook or teacher who has medical contraindications. Or let's take people with severe visual impairments as pilots of civilian airliners.

Are these also typical examples of the “segregation” that Beroev spoke about?

Therefore, the hysteria about the mandatory vaccination has no basis whatsoever.
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  1. -45
    25 June 2021 11: 09
    The USSR is not enough for anti-graft, and the shoals of today's Russia make themselves felt (((
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      1. +25
        25 June 2021 11: 46
        Another sofa specialist will pretend to be an expert here. The trouble of all is that opinions in society about vaccination come from people who are far from medicine. If we did everything we needed, we would have coped with the pandemic long ago.
        1. +54
          25 June 2021 11: 49
          Inject yourself - the flag is in your hands.
          For some reason I cannot get an answer from the vaccinated: Why are you so afraid of not vaccinated ?!
          1. +3
            25 June 2021 11: 54
            I do not need vaccinations, since I have been ill with covid and I have immunity. According to a blood test, the coefficient of positivity of antibodies to coronavirus is high.
            1. +27
              25 June 2021 12: 06
              Thinking for a long time? Not the fact that you cannot get sick again.
              There are examples of influenza when people who have recovered fell ill again and more than once.
              1. +1
                25 June 2021 12: 13
                And what prevents me from passing tests again ???
                1. +12
                  25 June 2021 12: 31
                  Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
                  And what prevents me from passing tests again ???

                  Of course, you can pass it more than once or twice. But pensioners do not have an extra 1200 rubles. Why doesn't the state take care of the poor in this regard?
                  1. 0
                    25 June 2021 12: 33
                    And why do PCR. Not. IMMEDIATELY SHALL
                    1. +4
                      25 June 2021 12: 36
                      I have already injected. But there is a desire to test the effectiveness of this action, because the option of the absence of antibodies is possible.
                      1. +3
                        27 June 2021 09: 43
                        Go ahead with the money.
                  2. ANB
                    +5
                    25 June 2021 13: 01
                    ... But pensioners do not have an extra 1200 rubles.

                    Antibodies will be more expensive.
                    1. +3
                      25 June 2021 13: 23
                      Clarified. If the blood is from a vein, then 700 rubles. If a smear, then 1600 r.
                      1. ANB
                        +4
                        25 June 2021 13: 31
                        ... If the blood is from a vein, then 700 rubles.

                        Where is the price? We have 700 only a fence from a vein. And the 1200 analysis itself is the cheapest. :(
                      2. +2
                        25 June 2021 13: 58
                        . Offer two types of analysis. Blood or smear. I called and clarified. https://www.invitro.ru/
                      3. ANB
                        +3
                        25 June 2021 19: 09
                        ... . Offer two types of analysis. Blood or smear. I called and clarified.

                        PCR or antibodies? I also called in invitro. 5 pieces full antibodies alignment.
                  3. +18
                    25 June 2021 17: 22
                    Quote: WIKI
                    Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
                    And what prevents me from passing tests again ???

                    Of course, you can pass it more than once or twice. But pensioners do not have an extra 1200 rubles. Why doesn't the state take care of the poor in this regard?

                    So that's the whole plan. All hysteria is about selling tests, vaccines, etc.
                2. -5
                  26 June 2021 21: 15
                  I give the last tooth, according to the Federal State Statistics Service in the country already "146%" (c) of the people with the population have been ill !!! Ah, this is already the majority!
                  Don't believe me? Well, in vain.
                  Believe ...
                  1. +1
                    28 June 2021 04: 36
                    For example: the western districts of the Krasnoyarsk Territory, a town of about 30,000 people have had a severe and moderate form of about 150 people ...And?.
                    1. +4
                      28 June 2021 14: 56
                      The occupation power, alien to us, decided to finish off the territories and people that it inherited in the process of redistribution of the USSR - Russia.
                      Inflating the bubble from small to all-embracing.
                      These people are placed over this territory and our people not for the growth of their well-being, not for the growth of physical and mental health, but exactly the opposite. All the latest decisions of the authorities simply cry out about their true interests within the limits of their responsibility for the "word and deed" entrusted to them.
                      The current government is openly unfriendly to the interests of our country and people.
                      The build-up of the Armed Forces, the renewal of armaments, the mercenary character of the Armed Forces is necessary for the local authorities only to protect their "local pocket" from outside encroachments. Rosgvardia is necessary to protect their pockets from encroachments from inside their jurisdictions, i.e. from the people of Russia. Everything.
                      While the occupants are in power, I think that there is no point in conducting dialogues in terms of "Well, it would be better if they did it this way, and not that way, they thought it wrong again ..." and so on.
                      They thought everything over and did it right.
                      Like occupiers in an occupied country.
              2. BAI
                +1
                25 June 2021 13: 48
                There are such examples for covid as well.
              3. +39
                25 June 2021 21: 07
                Vadim Ananyin - Is the vaccination for a long time or what? In the article they write - in six months - for the second round and so on ad infinitum. This is called "getting on a needle."
                In the USSR, no one earned billions of dollars in the production of medical preparations, bonuses - yes, but this is minuscule. And therefore, in the manufacture of drugs, the main goal was still to help people. Now the entire pharmacy has a completely different goal - to grab as many pennies as possible, and we know this, and therefore normal people do not want to "get on the needle" for the super-profits of "big-pharma".
                1. +2
                  28 June 2021 15: 00
                  Quote: Nazar
                  In the article they write - in six months - for the second round and so on ad infinitum.

                  For that, automatically you get registered as a trustworthy, consonant, masochnik, EDRovets, etc.
                  Compliant, aroused, hypnotized, not dangerous to the authorities.
                  The process of separating sheep from goats (in the understanding of the authorities) has been launched.
                  Choose.
                  Label.
              4. +8
                26 June 2021 09: 05
                Quote: Vadim Ananyin
                There are examples of influenza when people who have recovered fell ill again and more than once

                Yes real example - a high-level official, vaccinated with not the most nasty vaccine, I think, died of a stroke (and a stroke is a blood clot) against the background of covid19.
                there is reason to believe that the level of medicine in the United States is in no way lower than ours)))
                and the level of vaccines is also not lower - however, deaths from thrombosis after vaccination are recorded.
                and our vaccine, which does not have analogs, does not give a side effect - this is where the mystery of statistics is)))
                1. -3
                  26 June 2021 11: 43
                  there is a real example - a high-level official, vaccinated with not the most vile vaccine, I think, died of a stroke (and a stroke is a blood clot) against the background of covid19.

                  Yes, there is such an example. This is Shoigu's sister and an honored doctor.
                  Only she had had covid and thrombosis - a complication after the disease.
                  If you have information that she was vaccinated - give confirmation.
                  As for the Indian Delta mutation, it affects the blood differently than the primary virus and there is a danger of blood clotting within an hour, which leads to thrombosis and, as a result, strokes.
                  You didn't ask this question:
                  For some reason I cannot get an answer from the vaccinated: Why are you so afraid of not vaccinated ?!

                  but I would like to answer it too.
                  We, the vaccinated, are not afraid of the unvaccinated.
                  I am not a doctor, but all my relatives, from my grandfather to my wife, are doctors.
                  Everyone knows that you need to be vaccinated against plague and smallpox. Otherwise "there are a lot of chances to part with life".
                  Why covid is treated as something safe - I cannot understand.
                  Also I cannot understand why do anti-vaccines do not spare doctors?
                  After six months of wearing protective masks, scars remain on the faces, which can only be removed by plastic surgery. Doctors' backs fail due to protective suits. And they just die, even those vaccinated.
                  I saw it all with my own eyes.
                  The main thing: a population in which the number of vaccinated is less than 60-80% does not interrupt the cycle of the development of the virus.
                  It continues to mutate in this population and becomes more lethal. Including for the vaccinated.
                  It is elementary to check and see for yourself. The Delta mutation appeared in India.
                  As a result, we all have the following:
                  - everyone will get coronavirus,
                  - the hope that it will be possible to "evade" the disease - self-deception in a severe form,
                  - the later they get sick, the more severe, in the course of the disease and its consequences, the mutation of the virus will get them,
                  - on the Delta mutation, previous treatment regimens are less effective,
                  - those who had been ill earlier do not have a guarantee against infection with late mutations, there are examples when people fell ill both 2 and 3 times,
                  - the later herd immunity develops, the more good people will die or become disabled due to the serious complications of the coronavirus,
                  - coronavirus cannot be completely cured,
                  - complications occur after the disease and after 3, and after 6, and after 9 months, and no one knows what complications will appear in a year, two or more.
                  With regard to vaccinations.
                  The United States has deployed a whole network of biological laboratories around Russia. I came across a figure of 39. It is easy to check.
                  The cost of these laboratories is from $ 50 to $ 200 million.
                  If the entire population of Russia takes root, very serious money will be thrown into the wind.
                  The topic of allegedly "chipping" people - also originated in the States.
                  So think, who benefits from the anti-vaccination company ?!
                  It was to counteract this threat at our borders that the state actively developed microbiology in the country and developed vaccination methods.
                  It has long been clear that such activity with laboratories in the CIS countries is not without reason.
                  Therefore, everything was ready for vaccines, tested and when the epidemic began, our scientists very quickly released vaccines against covid.
                  I propose to recall the spring sanctions imposed by the United States against the EMNIP 9 Russian companies, allegedly developers of chemical weapons.
                  There, together with our companies, the list also mentioned 3 German and 1 Swiss firms.
                  These are not chemical weapons developers. These are the vaccine developers. That is why both the Germans and the Swiss collaborated with them - they supplied medical equipment, reagents, and drugs.
                  When the States realized at what a high level our protection from viruses was, they imposed sanctions to prevent us in every possible way and to weaken us.
                  Beroev is a corrupt bastard without brains. IMHO. hi

                  https://ria.ru/20210617/protsenko-1737340157.html
                  https://svpressa.ru/health/news/301859/
                  https://lenta.ru/news/2021/06/21/blood/
                  https://lenta.ru/news/2021/06/22/medbrat/
                  1. +6
                    26 June 2021 14: 34
                    Quote: Alex777
                    If you have information that she was vaccinated - give confirmation.


                    I am not sands to "give confirmation".
                    turn on your head - Putin is an example for the whole country - has taken root, the Minister of Defense has taken root, a State Duma deputy from United Russia and an honored doctor has not taken root ?!
                    if there is evidence that she was not vaccinated and was "anti-vaccine" - give confirmation ....
                    Yegor Beroev is a worthy person.
                    "MY BODY IS MY BUSINESS."
                    1. -2
                      26 June 2021 14: 58
                      I waited a long time by the sea for an answer ... laughing
                      Oddly enough, but doctors are also susceptible to anti-vaccination propaganda.
                      First of all, those who did not work in the "red zone".
                      Sister Shoigu was ill covid.
                      “They brought me information now that the cause of death was a stroke as a complication of the coronavirus,” said Ms. Karmazina, who is a member of the Committee for Control and Regulation in the State Duma, whose deputy head was Larisa Shoigu.

                      She died from covid, not from vaccination. I would like to draw your attention to this.
                      And Western vaccines are made differently and there is indeed a thrombosis from AstraZeneca. From what I heard, they are not good at cleaning vaccine materials taken from monkeys.
                      An acquaintance in the Israeli police said: under threat of dismissal, their unit of 200 people were vaccinated.
                      After this vaccination, 2 died. Man and woman 34-35 years old. Here's a fact.
                      What else can I say?
                      Sobyanin has already been vaccinated again. He has no complications.
                      The Delta mutation is much more dangerous than the primary virus.
                      "Delta +" can turn out to be even worse.
                      One carrier of such an infection has already been found in Russia.
                      Therefore, you don't have to wait for anything - you need to vaccinate.
                      There is no other way to protect yourself.
                      What I don’t understand is the weakness of the authorities.
                      Britain does not let unvaccinated citizens go abroad.
                      IMHO, this is the only way to somehow stop the import of new mutations into our country. hi
                      1. +3
                        27 June 2021 09: 49
                        "She died from covid, not from vaccination"
                        she died of a stroke, no need to invent anything
                        "The Delta mutation is much more dangerous than the primary virus.
                        "Delta +" could be even worse "
                        and the delta +++++++++++ finally will be terrible, even in that direction it will not be possible to look. what kind of horror story the authorities will need to come up with, some Greenlandic sigma +++ ------ 2AB. and will be vaccinated from her
                      2. -2
                        27 June 2021 13: 52
                        "She died from covid, not from vaccination"
                        she died of a stroke, no need to invent anything

                        Read what they give you from start to finish:
                        “They brought me information now that the cause of death was a stroke as a complication of the coronavirus»

                        laughing
                        what kind of horror story the authorities will need - that and come up with,

                        Is it okay that these names are not the authorities, but the West comes up with? laughing
                        That this infection appeared and develops not in our country, but abroad?
                        He who has eyes will see. bully
                      3. 0
                        28 June 2021 08: 52
                        "Read what they give you from start to finish:"
                        "They brought me information now that the cause of death was stroke"
                        it is written here clearly and clearly- stroke, i.e. hemorrhage in the brain. but the fact that the virus has been dragged in is the trend now, soon appendicitis will be called a complication from the virus
                      4. +1
                        28 June 2021 08: 55
                        All clear. bully
                        Zoo announcement:
                        Don't scare the ostrich - the floor is concrete.
                      5. +4
                        28 June 2021 08: 55
                        "Anything that these names are not the authorities, but the West comes up with?"
                        and nothing that our authorities blindly copy all the demands of the West, even to the detriment of their own electorate?
                      6. +1
                        28 June 2021 09: 27
                        and nothing that our authorities blindly copy all the demands of the West, even to the detriment of their own electorate?

                        Let's continue "to spite mom, freeze your ears." bully
                      7. +3
                        28 June 2021 10: 49
                        "Let's continue" to spite mom, freeze your ears "
                        where does the mother and ears, you mean we have a sovereign country, with its own central bank, powerful industry and medicine? a skillful professional government that cares about the development of the state and makes life easier for the population in every possible way, increasing incomes and reducing prices and tariffs? or is it all the same? do you live in some other country that has all this?
                    2. +2
                      27 June 2021 17: 16
                      Quote: Gunter
                      took root, a State Duma deputy from "United Russia" and an honored doctor - did not take root ?!

                      I have a medical relative. The whole family took root in her, but she did not. Because he is a medic, many of whom are against. I assume your argument has been destroyed ?! laughing
                      1. -2
                        27 June 2021 21: 04
                        Quote: victor50
                        I have a medical relative. The whole family took root in her, but she did not


                        This successful relative is a State Duma deputy from United Russia and an honored doctor of the Russian Federation, does she have a brother - a minister?
                        "I suppose your argument has been destroyed ?!" ©
                        )))))))
                      2. -2
                        28 June 2021 08: 38
                        Quote: victor50
                        I have a medical relative. The whole family took root in her, but she did not. Because ...
                        M. b. because her authority as a physician tends to zero even in her own family?
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                      4. +1
                        28 June 2021 09: 38
                        Quote: Alex777
                        M. b. because her authority as a physician tends to zero even in her own family?

                        You are a good person. bully
                        Of the many possible versions of events in someone else's family, the most unsightly was chosen.
                        And the fact that a medic, with a high probability, could have been ill recently did not occur to you?
                        Therefore, the family took root, and she will do it a little later? Is it possible? wink
                        Well, or so, if Gunther maliciously or foolishly concealed this fact. But I try to treat virtual Gunther more humanely than to his even more virtual relative, whose disease is already a derivative from a derivative.
                  2. 0
                    30 June 2021 03: 51
                    The topic of allegedly "chipping" people - also originated in the States.
                    So think, who benefits from the anti-vaccination company ?!

                    There is no "chipization" at the moment, and cannot be, based on the current state of technology and the remnants of science.
                    Yes, and it is not needed for ....
                    Oh, I will repeat once more for the dull ones:
                    Excuse masks ...
                    The mask immediately shows whether the citizen is a "flock" or not yet. The authorities responded accordingly. While this is collecting data into the database on citizens, slowly, not immediately, but it will go.
                    Excuse masks ...
                    Here are just some of the goals solved by the rulers under the guise of this nix:

                    Redistribution of property, redistribution of finance in favor of transnational corporations.
                    Destruction of small and medium-sized businesses.
                    Elimination of cash as a method of payment.
                    The squeeze of weak countries and economies.
                    Inciting riots and discontent with the existing authorities around the world.
                    Redistribution and concentration of power in a small, selected number of persons (as a result, in the hands of one ruler).
                    Total control over people: maps, phones, software, security cameras, biopass, etc.
                    The maximum separation of people and the incitement of some groups to others: by religious, medical (sick - healthy, sick with the wrong thing ...), age (including school and "age risk groups" by the crown), national, support the crown or no, local (restriction of movement), mental development,
                    for financial well-being and other characteristics.
                    Creation of conditions for the growth of indebtedness, debts (including those that do not exist) and, accordingly, the dependence of citizens on handouts, "favors" from the authorities and the rich.
                    The desire to create a “new person”, from a person who cares about his soul and the souls of other people, to make a person trembling, shaking only for his life, thinking only about his daily bread and his health.
                    Population decline through wars, conflicts, unrest, disease, stress and artificial hunger.
                    Creation of an atmosphere of fear and insecurity of people in the future.
                    The transformation of a "thinking man" into a "trembling" one.
                    Cheating.
                    And these are far from all the goals set by those in power in the framework of this one operation alone.
                    codenamed "Coronavirus Pandemic".
              5. +3
                26 June 2021 11: 43
                With the corona virus the same thing, vaccinated people also get sick.
                Immunity of things is purely individual, you can get vaccinated at least ten times and then get infected.

                "MY BODY IS MY BUSINESS."
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                2. 0
                  28 June 2021 04: 51
                  \all \ MY BODY MY BUSINESS.You are right, "my body is my business" and my body does not want to receive a new dangerous mutation from an unvaccinated person that can break through my immunity and my body really does not like it if there is a similar "mutant" nearby.
                  1. +5
                    28 June 2021 15: 32
                    It will become much easier for you to die from an infected but vaccinated acquaintance in which the next mutation occurs? Or do you think that viruses mutate only in unvaccinated organisms? Spit in the face of the person who told you this! laughing
                  2. +1
                    28 June 2021 21: 41
                    sibiryak54 - Your right not to teach infections from both vaccinated and unvaccinated - wear a mask, gloves, wear OZK, who limits you in this? But my right not to do this and no one can restrict it either. hi
                    1. 0
                      29 June 2021 19: 44
                      Quote: Nazar
                      But my right not to do this and no one can restrict it either.

                      Back in the middle of the 20th century, the areas of the epidemic were cordoned off by armed cordons, who were ordered to suppress any attempts to violate quarantine measures with weapons. Let's not drastically change the generally accepted norms of human behavior during epidemics. This was colorfully described by K. Paustovsky in "The Story of Life".
                      1. +1
                        30 June 2021 17: 40
                        gsev - And what, we have a direct "epidemic" - yes? And the authorities of at least one region have declared an emergency or state of emergency? No, and they will not announce - they do not want to take responsibility and expenses, they shift everything to the population - "on my own, on my own, on my own ..." and even making money out of this misfortune. Does RossReserve even exist? Why weren't the same masks from warehouses distributed to the population free of charge in one day - huh? In the USSR, in the warehouses of the State Reserve, there were even gas masks for the entire population of the country, and here it is a comedy - gauze masks from China and exorbitant prices. And after that, I have to trust their vaccines?
                        The disease poses a real danger, this is understandable, but what our authorities are doing in order to "fight" the disease is some kind of "dancing with a tambourine" and if there are those who want to participate in this, this is their choice, but most people understand with whom they do business, and therefore do not trust everything that comes from our authorities.
                    2. -2
                      30 June 2021 12: 15
                      I wear a mask, but you, with your stubbornness so similar to a donkey, walk around and throw drool around you and think you are a "white" person ...
              6. SSR
                +1
                27 June 2021 10: 58
                Quote: Vadim Ananyin
                Thinking for a long time? Not the fact that you cannot get sick again.
                There are examples of influenza when people who have recovered fell ill again and more than once.

                This is why many do not want to.
                A person was vaccinated and after three months a new strain of the virus and vaccinated fell ill, six months later on a new one. It's like the flu now, and not everyone is vaccinated against the flu either. Imha.
                1. -5
                  27 June 2021 13: 58
                  A person was vaccinated and after three months a new strain of the virus

                  Our vaccines use a protein (part of a virus), not a whole virus.
                  Therefore, our vaccines protect against mutations. hi
                  1. -4
                    27 June 2021 16: 42
                    Quote: Alex777
                    Our vaccines use protein (part
                    virus), not a whole virus.
                    Therefore, our vaccines protect against mutations.


                    indeed, the Spike SARS-CoV-2 protein. Protein is found in most vaccines under development .......
                    “In samples from healthy people, cells were of normal, even shape, with a normal membrane surface. The addition of S-protein to the samples caused adhesion of erythrocytes, as well as hyperactivation of platelets and proliferation of their membranes. The spike protein contributed to the deposition of amyloid fibrin, although the scientists did not add thrombin to the samples. "©
                    https://nplus1.ru/news/2021/04/19/s-hypercoagulation?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C3652968787
                    "The World Health Organization (WHO) will investigate whether there is a link between cases of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and coronavirus vaccination" ©

                    think about the facts, Alex777
                    1. -4
                      28 June 2021 12: 30
                      "The World Health Organization (WHO) will investigate whether there is a link between cases of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and coronavirus vaccination" ©

                      Do not confuse your personal wool with the state ...
                      Ugh ..
                      Do not confuse the results of Western vaccinations with the results of Russian vaccinations.
                      Here is a quote from the link you provided:
                      The problem of thrombosis in patients with coronavirus infection, as well as healthy people who have received the coronavirus vaccine, worries many specialists. Previously, scientists found out that The risk of developing bleeding disorders and complications after COVID-19 is about eight times higher compared to vaccination.

                      This is despite the fact that there is a risk after Western vaccines, and after Russian - not a single case.
                      You directly confirmed my thesis about the need to be vaccinated, and not hope that the disease will pass in a mild form. bully
                      1. -3
                        30 June 2021 03: 00
                        Do not confuse the results of Western vaccinations with the results of Russian vaccinations.

                        Russian with a small letter, this is so true.
                        Any modern vaccination necessarily contains two elements: mercury salts, as a preservative for living material, and the so-called. abortion material, i.e. human cellular material obtained from abortion.
                        From the point of view of Orthodoxy and traditional (not Scientific, taught by the Jews, as is the case now) science, this is - cannibalism, i.e. - cannibalism through vaccination.
                        Forget Soviet vaccines. Stalin is gone, there is no one to look after the doctors. Even he was 100% unable to do it.
                      2. -2
                        30 June 2021 03: 07
                        And yet, for especially and timely gifted "comrades" -

                        But this does not apply to you, tk. "gifted comrades" science does not concern.
                      3. +1
                        30 June 2021 03: 20
                        But this does not apply to you, tk. "gifted comrades" science does not concern.

                        I have a university education and my friends are academicians, but your convictions are enough for you and I don't want to convince you - life will convince who is needed, and who is needed will die out.
                        And yes, I am a church-going person. God help you. hi
                      4. 0
                        30 June 2021 03: 31
                        Quote: Alex777
                        I have a university education and friends are academicians

                        Gunzburg, is it a friend of yours (sorry, I write "You" with a capital letter to everyone, and ...), or a magician-demagogue - Vilfand, forgive God, do not remember by nightfall ...
                        Don't put God next to you, he "is not of this world."
                        And, you really hurt the world.
                      5. +1
                        30 June 2021 03: 36
                        Judge not lest ye be judged; for with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with what measure you mete, it will be measured to you also.

                        wink
                      6. -1
                        30 June 2021 03: 41
                        Quote: Alex777
                        Judge not lest ye be judged; for with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with what measure you mete, it will be measured to you also.

                        The funeral is notable, but initially a failure.
                        I have not condemned you with a single phrase.
                        Just calling to your conscience and reason.
                        Well, and there, as to whom it will come.
                        Who is offended (with minuses flooded, but I can only rejoice at them ...), and who is in the business.
                        We ourselves are not local people. All drunkards. All the money spent on drink. Good people ... give as much as you can.
                        And we went down the ranks closer and closer to you wink
                  2. +4
                    28 June 2021 15: 43
                    Quote: Alex777
                    A person was vaccinated and after three months a new strain of the virus

                    Our vaccines use a protein (part of a virus), not a whole virus.
                    Therefore, our vaccines protect against mutations. hi

                    A very "impenetrable" argument! laughing
                    That is, if you "eat" the isolated flu protein, you will stop getting sick? Why is it not done this way with the flu? They would have won a long time ago, but no, every year there are stable outbreaks with new mutations, to which "vaccination" is not always suitable! Since you have gotten into these intricacies, maybe then you will continue to tell how the acquired immunity differs naturally and with the help of vaccination? Proteins of the wrong system? wassat
                    1. -5
                      28 June 2021 15: 48
                      A very "impenetrable" argument! laughing
                      That is, if you "eat" the isolated flu protein, you will stop getting sick? Why is it not done this way with the flu?

                      Compare what the coronavirus looks like, what the flu virus looks like and you will understand everything about your funny question.
                      If you do not understand, please contact us.
                      Let me explain the difference between a virus and a coronavirus. wink
                      1. +3
                        28 June 2021 16: 05
                        Both are based on RNA strands, both use the mechanisms of the attacked cell to produce their own kind. Both produce their own proteins using the mechanisms of the cell, which are then used for reproduction. And so yes, they differ as a sneaker from a boot, however, both are worn on the feet. laughing
                        You got into the mechanism of the vaccine, but slid down to the outside, thereby showing complete ignorance of the issue. Let me tell you the "secret", the vaccinovirus outwardly also has no resemblance to the coronavirus, and proteins ..., there are also a lot of them in your body, which does not prevent viruses from breaking into the protection of immunity in general and cells in particular.
                      2. -3
                        28 June 2021 16: 07
                        and proteins ..., there are also a lot of them in your body, which does not prevent viruses from breaking into the protection of immunity in general and cells in particular.

                        lol
                        You did not understand anything from my prompting, but I overestimated my desire to engage in education.
                        Good luck! Do not be ill. hi
                      3. 0
                        28 June 2021 16: 17
                        Quote: Alex777
                        and proteins ..., there are also a lot of them in your body, which does not prevent viruses from breaking into the protection of immunity in general and cells in particular.

                        lol

                        It is understandable, except for the templates heard from the media and issued as great tannins, other concepts and principles by which cells live and the same viruses are absent. You could not even finish your own thought, why proteins, and on the basis of what suddenly decided that the immune system, which received an immune response in a natural way, will not respond to the same proteins? Draining is counted! The lack of critical perception was recorded. wassat
                      4. -1
                        28 June 2021 18: 11
                        Draining is counted! The lack of critical perception was recorded.

                        You can also put a star in your forehead. wink
                      5. -2
                        30 June 2021 03: 11
                        Compare what a coronavirus looks like, what a flu virus looks like

                        A comrade (through a soft sign) with a built-in molecular microscope of its own, speaks and declares. And, learned and taught to correctly declare the Scientists (stress on the first letter Y), they support him.
                      6. -2
                        30 June 2021 03: 23
                        As the only one (besides me) active on the topic, I say hello and thank you for your attention and tacit agreement with my point of view.
                        hi
                  3. -2
                    30 June 2021 03: 56
                    Quote: Alex777
                    Our vaccines use a protein (part of a virus), not a whole virus.
                    Therefore, our vaccines protect against mutations

                    Now, I don't even know what word to choose for your post, so that the audience does not offend.
                    University diploma, she, you know, "something special !!!" (from)
                2. -1
                  28 June 2021 04: 57
                  In terms of flu, an elementary epidemic is a new "mutant" and a bunch of "old" ones catch up with those who have not been vaccinated, they just escaped the disease in the past seasons, so two or three diseases per season are obtained
                3. +3
                  29 June 2021 19: 49
                  Quote from S.S.R.
                  six months later on a new one.

                  In San Marino, the entire population was vaccinated Sputnik V. Before vaccination, sometimes 120 people fell ill per day. Before the vaccination campaign, according to various sources, from 85 to 90 people died in a year. The last death was in April. After the end of the vaccination campaign in this tourist state, 1 (one) person fell ill with covid per month. That is, the incidence has dropped by about 3000 times.
                  1. +2
                    30 June 2021 03: 29
                    All of you are speaking correctly, but the zombification of anti-vaccinations is equal in strength to faith in Navalny.
                    Even smart people think that he can be a good President.
                    It’s amazing. hi
            2. -4
              27 June 2021 00: 34
              The trouble is that no one cares, the authorities need a QR code that you have been vaccinated EXACTLY, and the fact that you have been ill is your own business. Anyway, they won't be allowed anywhere without a code, so you go and get vaccinated.
              1. -1
                27 June 2021 20: 22
                The trouble is that nobody cares, the authorities need a QR code that you were EXACTLY vaccinated

                This practice works successfully in Israel, Britain and other democratic and not so countries.
                They do not use it where the educated majority understands the need for vaccination and is vaccinated ..
                It is good that at last we have adopted this practice of the West as well.
                1. +1
                  28 June 2021 06: 51
                  Ahahahahaha!
                  In Britain, millions of people have taken to the streets against cowardice.
                  All reasonable people understand that there is no pandemic. The media and governments are intentionally escalating the tension.
                  In Sweden and Belarus, there is silence and people continue to live in peace.
                  1. -3
                    28 June 2021 08: 08
                    Ahahahahaha!
                    All reasonable people understand that there is no pandemic.

                    What village do you live in? In which country?
                    I have already buried so many friends and relatives in Moscow because of covid that listening to such nonsense is not at all funny to me.
                    Have you seen funeral pyres on the streets of India?
                    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
                    1. +1
                      1 July 2021 15: 48
                      Yeah. A concrete example: there are 20 people at work, a closed team, a remote object, half of them are vaccinated. One, having attended a mass event, a birthday party, became infected, brought him to work. The current development has 3 days. Everyone got infected. 7 unvaccinated got sick, 1 vaccinated, 12 days sick. For 3 days my max temperature was 37,1. Let them not believe further. My wife's work closed the MFC in Krasnoperekopsk for the same reason, and the four of us lived at work for 2 weeks.
                      1. +1
                        1 July 2021 16: 27
                        Unfortunately, I know of many such examples ...
                        That is why I am trying, to the best of my ability, to "draw public attention." hi
                        I had a wonderful Spiritual Father ... 12 years old.
                        In February he fell ill, in May he was buried.
                        I did not manage to be vaccinated.


                        Here are how many people saw him off in the rain ...
                      2. 0
                        1 July 2021 17: 34
                        I sympathize. And we have a problem to graft. There are 100 points per 2 thousand of the population, they work 2 hours 3 times a week, without a record, what is there to be surprised at. This is Evpatoria.
                      3. +1
                        1 July 2021 17: 37
                        I'm sorry.

                        Thank you.
                        I was vaccinated at the end of March. No problem at all.
                        When I was in the neighborhood, they called me to get vaccinated.
                        Now yes, it has become much more difficult.
                  2. +3
                    29 June 2021 19: 52
                    Quote: sektant777
                    In Britain, millions of people have taken to the streets against cowardice.

                    This did not seem to prevent the British government from introducing a ban on the travel of the unvaccinated abroad and banning them from visiting public places.
                2. -2
                  30 June 2021 03: 13
                  Quote: Alex777
                  The trouble is that nobody cares, the authorities need a QR code

                  Authorities need consent and obedience. They don’t need your health in full, but quite the opposite.
          2. +4
            25 June 2021 12: 17
            Quote: PROXOR
            Why are YOU SO AFRAID OF NOT VACCINATED ?!

            What makes you think that I, vaccinated, should be afraid of the unvaccinated? I don’t care about them at all, but because the number of cases has sharply increased, restrictions are again introduced, even on rest in the Krasnodar Territory, which certainly was not the case last year. And the number of people with covid after vaccination is only a small part of the number of sick unvaccinated people. You don't need to be a scientist to understand where the threat to everyone comes from, and therefore every sane person has the right to make his own reasonable choice. By the way, two of my comrades did not get vaccinated last year, and unfortunately they could not be saved when they fell ill with covid. It’s a pity that I don’t know now their opinion about vaccination ...
            1. +24
              25 June 2021 12: 26
              Quote: ccsr
              only due to the fact that the number of cases has increased sharply, restrictions are again introduced, even for rest in the Krasnodar Territory, which certainly did not exist last year.

              Duck restrictions do not concern you. Show the CuAr code (after you are revaccinated, of course, Sobyanin has already stated that your old vaccine is non-protective and you need to inject again), and go to Krasnodar to have a rest.
              1. -5
                25 June 2021 12: 41
                Quote: geroy_333
                , Sobyanin has already stated that your old vaccine is not protective and you need to inject again), and go to Krasnodar to rest.

                This year I got vaccinated as soon as the notification came to come to the clinic. So a year is guaranteed for me and I will go to rest with a certificate, but I don’t feel much inconvenience. I got the code, and I have it in my smartphone.
                1. 0
                  26 June 2021 11: 55
                  Check the code somewhere before you travel.
                  To make the trip a success.
                  Yesterday I heard that not all codes work for some reason. hi
                  1. 0
                    26 June 2021 17: 28
                    Quote: Alex777
                    Check the code somewhere before you travel.
                    To make the trip a success.
                    Yesterday I heard that not all codes work for some reason.

                    My wife and I have a program for scanning barcodes installed on smartphones and yesterday I easily checked - everything works, the decryption confirms our data.
                    1. +2
                      26 June 2021 17: 29
                      Then you are lucky to have a rest! drinks
                  2. -3
                    30 June 2021 03: 14
                    Quote: Alex777
                    Yesterday I heard that not all codes work for some reason

                    666 should work, 146% as everywhere and at every step.
                2. +6
                  26 June 2021 13: 36
                  Quote: ccsr
                  So a year is guaranteed for me and I will go to rest with a certificate, but I don’t feel much inconvenience. I got the code, and I have it in my smartphone.

                  Unfortunately the code won't help.
                  To date, in Israel from the Delta strain (Indian virus) among the infected 40% are fully vaccinated, but they all easily fell ill out of 380 infected, one was hospitalized. So the mask won't hurt you.
                  1. -1
                    26 June 2021 14: 35
                    Today in Israel from the strain "Delta" (Indian virus) among the infected 40% of fully vaccinated

                    What I know for Israel is that they were inoculated with AstraZeneca. And this vaccine does not protect against virus mutations. It was discovered back in South Africa. hi
                    1. +2
                      26 June 2021 14: 43
                      Quote: Alex777
                      What I know about Israel is that they were inoculated with AstraZeneca.

                      You are mistaken.
                      100% Pfizer-BioNT
                      1. +2
                        26 June 2021 15: 04
                        I already wrote above what a policeman I know from Israel told me.
                        His unit was stabbed with AstraZeneca.
                        With consequences.
                        However, it is not difficult for me to ask again. hi
                        PS Minus - not mine.
                        ZYY Looked in the internet, it looks like you're right. Most in Israel have indeed been vaccinated with Pfizer-BioNT.
                      2. +1
                        26 June 2021 15: 21
                        Quote: Alex777
                        I already wrote above what a policeman I know from Israel told me.

                        Either he is not a policeman, or he is not from Israel, or you do not understand him.

                        This is from my passport.
                        What about?
                        SARS CoV2 (הגורם למחלת COVID19) של חברת
                        pfizer.
                        Currently, the vaccine that is being administered in Israel is a vaccine against the SARS CoV2 virus (causing COVID19 disease) from pfizer.
                        Say hello to the policeman!
                      3. -1
                        26 June 2021 15: 23
                        Either he is not a policeman, or he is not from Israel, or you do not understand him.

                        I will clarify for the vaccine. 2 out of 200 have died after vaccination. If they had Pfizer, then such complications after him are news to me.
                        An acquaintance works in Tel Aviv.
                        In any case, we are vaccinators.
                        Only in our passport they don't put anything.
                      4. +1
                        26 June 2021 16: 24
                        Quote: Alex777
                        2 out of 200 have died after vaccination. If they had Pfizer, then such complications after him are news to me.

                        No, this is not news
                        Unfortunately, this is not news, Pfizer's vaccine yields 98% of severe cases when tested. They were unlucky, they got into this 2%.
                      5. -1
                        26 June 2021 16: 33
                        2 out of 200 is out of the question. Too many. Even AstraZeneca gives 1 case of thrombosis per 100.000 vaccinated.
                      6. 0
                        26 June 2021 17: 05
                        For obvious reasons, I will not give you the names and surnames. hi
                      7. -1
                        26 June 2021 18: 39
                        I dare to disappoint you. No policemen, especially two of the group of 200 people in Israel, died. Of the non-at-risk or very elderly people in Israel, only one 20-year-old girl died from heart muscle replacement after a second injection. And this is solely due to the complete connivance of doctors in the cardio intensive care unit where she ended up. Here this case is so out of hand that a journalistic investigation was devoted to this on one of the central TV channels.
                      8. -1
                        28 June 2021 21: 23
                        Therefore, for very understandable reasons, he will not give us a name ...
                      9. 0
                        28 June 2021 22: 05
                        For you, I will specifically explain: so as not to shoot a friend.
                        Unfortunately, you haven’t come to this on your own. hi
                      10. -2
                        28 June 2021 23: 14
                        Expected))
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                      12. -2
                        28 June 2021 21: 20
                        Yes, he understood everything, thank God, even though this "acquaintance" has not yet been buried, the rest, judging by the commentary, are a little more than everything
                      13. +1
                        26 June 2021 15: 46
                        Quote: Alex777
                        PS Minus - not mine.

                        This is the last thing that worries me, there is a category of people on whom the word Israel like a matador's hood.
                        Quote: Alex777
                        His unit was pricked by AstraZeneca

                        Israel did not even buy Astra-Zeneca. Two Pfizer-BioNT and Moderna were bought
                        Granddaughter serves in the police, vaccinated by Pfizer-BioNT
                        I may be wrong, but some troops were vaccinated with Moderna, these two vaccinations are exactly the same
                        .
                      14. 0
                        26 June 2021 23: 37
                        I asked a friend again. You're right, they had Pfizer.
                        I knew about similar problems with AstraZeneca and two pictures stuck together. feel
                        So already 2 Western vaccines are seriously unsafe. hi
                      15. 0
                        28 June 2021 21: 10
                        Why are you lying all the time you get paid, or want to show your "all knowledge".
                      16. -2
                        30 June 2021 03: 20
                        Quote: Alex777
                        So already 2 Western vaccines are seriously unsafe.

                        I wonder how Western money-diggers are ideologically different from ours, local money-seekers?
                        By faith?
                        Nope ....
                        They have only one - disbelief.
                        So what is, is there a prismatic difference in vaccination purposes, between the Enlightened West and Russia lying underneath it?
                      17. 0
                        28 June 2021 21: 07
                        Alex777. No need to stir up. It was purchased and is still up to the Rfizer line. The term is already running out and they wanted to give it to Gaza, but the gasmen refused. And everyone was vaccinated with Rfizer, the Prime Minister even boasted of this that Israel was ahead of the rest of the world and that this vaccine was purchased. Why so many is a mystery for 30 years. Since such a thing and the vaccination disappears, they began to inject children with the same vaccination. This is money, big money that sticks to sticky hands.
                      18. -1
                        28 June 2021 21: 19
                        Well, now the phaser will not work for him then ...
                    2. +2
                      26 June 2021 16: 53
                      the point is different - the vaccine, even if it does not save from infection, will help to transfer the disease more easily
                  2. -1
                    30 June 2021 03: 15
                    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                    So the mask won't hurt you.

                    Especially if you are a terrorist.
              2. +4
                25 June 2021 18: 03
                Sobyanin has already said that your old vaccine is not protective and you need to inject again), and go to Krasnodar to rest.

                So the Turks brought it to someone in the Krasnodar Territory administration ... laughing
                1. 0
                  25 June 2021 23: 02
                  now the shadow trade in information has only become hotter from the governor's statement alone. With home delivery, the entire Internet.
                  1. -1
                    26 June 2021 16: 54
                    laughing on the topic of human stupidity ... flog and only flog
              3. 0
                28 June 2021 05: 04
                What if ccsr is the owner of a small restaurant designed for tourists?
            2. +22
              25 June 2021 12: 36
              Why the hell do irresponsible citizens ride abroad, and then everyone has to suffer because of this ??? That they cannot wait out the pandemic at home ???
              1. +24
                25 June 2021 18: 05
                Why the hell do irresponsible citizens ride abroad, and then everyone has to suffer because of this ??? That they cannot wait out the pandemic at home ???

                And close Moscow tightly !!!
                Nehru to spread the infection across Russia!
            3. +14
              25 June 2021 13: 01
              Well, what is it to you ?! You have been vaccinated and are allowed everywhere. Star wherever you want. Leave us alone.
            4. -3
              26 June 2021 01: 55
              ccsr. Something like this has already happened - collective punishment. Due to the fact that Sidorov could not pull up eight times on the bar, everyone will run for an hour at the stadium, and then sleep
            5. +5
              26 June 2021 16: 54
              the number of cases, as it was low in the 20th year, and remains now, especially in the summer, when, according to scientific data, SARS epidemics do not happen for a number of reasons. Well, the brainless can continue to believe in nonsense from the zombie box. Soon you will be forced to put chips in your hand, you will wear the stigma like an animal, and without it, even the store will not serve you. Such will be the price for the stupidity of society and lack of will.
              1. +1
                27 June 2021 10: 29
                The Ministry of Truth knows better than scientists and doctors; they receive training manuals directly from their big brother. But the methods of influencing society are so clumsy and dubious that they suggest another campaign to incite discontent and distrust of the authorities. The fifth column is very firmly entrenched in the media and government offices.
            6. -2
              27 June 2021 09: 52
              "And the number of patients with covid after vaccinations is only a small part of the number of sick unvaccinated people."
              maybe because the number of vaccinated people is only a small part, and they all get sick the same?
          3. +19
            25 June 2021 12: 59
            Quote: PROXOR
            Inject yourself - the flag is in your hands.
            For some reason I cannot get an answer from the vaccinated: Why are you so afraid of not vaccinated ?!

            Such a beast is a terrible, called a toad. Here it is.
            1. +1
              25 June 2021 13: 04
              GY GY GY !!!!
          4. -26
            25 June 2021 13: 29
            Srheyu PROXOR

            I will answer you, Ivanov for some reason did not want to.
            If you are not a provocateur, but a sincere madman. Perhaps you will understand.

            Why vaccinated fear NOT vaccinated madmen? Because the vaccinated знают for sure - there is a mass of evidence and millions of dead from covid - that covid exists and is extremely dangerous. Yes, not for everyone and not always. But vaccinated smart so much as not to try to play the game of madmen - "Russian roulette": maybe you're lucky. NOT grafted by their negation covid represent danger for normal people. After all, not believing in the existence of covid, violating all safety rules, they are trying to lead the old way of life, to climb into the midst of people, which is a danger NOT for the vaccinated, but for the not yet vaccinated, but observing safety measures. Covid dissidents - aggressive pofuists. NOBODY is against them staying closed at home. But after all, they climb into the midst of people and can infect tens and hundreds of people! If non-vaccinators do not understand this, they are just D.U. cancer. If they deliberately play with fire, they are criminals. Their You can play with lives as you like, strangers, without the consent of other people - you have NO right! Mandatory vaccination of people who have a lot of contacts at work - compelled a measure aimed at protecting Russians from you.

            If you did not understand anything even after my explanation, then it is useless to talk to you. Unfortunately, world statistics and experience show that the number of smart people is always and everywhere insignificant in any society in the world. smile

            As for Beroev, he is certainly not a madman. They just pay well (or paid) for it. Such a loud provocation!lol
            1. +25
              25 June 2021 14: 18
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              for normal people.

              Why do you deny others the right to be called normal people? Your willingness to be vaccinated does not in any way cancel my reluctance to give an injection with an untested and unexplored drug, even the WHO did not include domestic vaccines on the list of recommended ones, although it did include Chinese, American and European ones.
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              After all, NOT believing in the existence of covid

              How not to believe in what exists? I know there is COVID, but I also see the lack of effectiveness of the vaccines, as well as the side effects from the vaccines.
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              Covid dissidents are aggressive pofuists

              The vaccinated are much more aggressive than the medieval witch fighters resemble.)))
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              As for Beroev, he is certainly not a madman. They just pay well (or paid) for it. Such a loud provocation!

              I fully support Boreev in this! Proof that he was paid is there? Or did you just lie? I hope you get paid for lying.
              1. SSR
                +1
                27 June 2021 17: 11
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                even the WHO did not include domestic vaccines in the list of recommended ones, although it included Chinese ones,

                Please remember the IOC, the court in Lausanne ...... Here is the answer.
                PS.
                Our scientists have created a vaccine recognized by the world community against "Ebola", but since you cannot earn billions on Ebola, Western "partners" have recognized that, and then, to give such a cusman of a pie ?!)))
                Against polio, our people gave the World a vaccine, the first country free from smallpox ...
                1. 0
                  27 June 2021 17: 29
                  Quote from S.S.R.
                  but since it is impossible to earn billions on Ebola, Western "partners" have recognized and that's it, and then, to give such a kusman pie ?!)))

                  Why were Chinese vaccines recognized?
            2. +37
              25 June 2021 14: 25
              Calling people crazy with a critical look at the antics of those in power holding, wrapping ribbons in park benches, but turning a blind eye, for example, at crowds and the subway is, of course, an indicator of intelligence.
              Can you explain to us, blunt-cutters, how a vaccinated person cannot be a carrier of infection (he himself, of course, not getting sick) and not infect others in the same way as an unvaccinated one? Maybe you are against Sobyanin with the chief sanitary doctor, who ordered the vaccinated to wear masks as well as the unvaccinated, emphasizing the possibility of being a carrier?
              Loud words about criminals and yourself, elitistically clever, should not be scattered about. Choose the expression more carefully.
              1. -20
                25 June 2021 16: 41
                Quote: Moore
                Can you explain to us, blunt-cutters, how a vaccinated person cannot be a carrier of infection (he himself, of course, not getting sick) and not infect others in the same way as an unvaccinated one?

                You are really tuparesis, the vaccinated person can get infected, but the chance of such infection is very small and when the majority of vaccinated people in the country, then the infected vaccinated person will no longer spread this infection en masse. Can you at least analyze, reason? If you are that stupid and not distant person, you can at least look why such countries as China (already more than 1 billion vaccinated) USA (more than 300 miles), India (more than 280 miles), Great Britain (more than 74 miles), Germany (more than 64 miles .), Israel (which is 90% grafted), they do it just like that, what would it be? Or, nevertheless, in order to stop the epidemic. I often ask myself this question, where do people like you come from?
                1. +12
                  25 June 2021 19: 59
                  Quote: Achilles
                  I often ask myself this question, where do people like you come from?

                  It looks like they are really teasing you there along with the vaccine. Don't get so excited.
                  Ask yourself the following question, if your talent is enough: why am I, a tram hamlet, I don’t know that in 90% of vaccinated Israel (which I write with a mistake due to special mental abilities) there is a new outbreak of this infection?
                  1. -5
                    26 June 2021 11: 25
                    Quote: Moore
                    Quote: Achilles
                    I often ask myself this question, where do people like you come from?

                    It looks like they are really teasing you there along with the vaccine. Don't get so excited.
                    Ask yourself the following question, if your talent is enough: why am I, a tram hamlet, I don’t know that in 90% of vaccinated Israel (which I write with a mistake due to special mental abilities) there is a new outbreak of this infection?

                    Firstly, they were not vaccinated there with a satellite, and secondly, the statistics there are not the same as those of others and the outbreak, according to the media, is exaggerated, and thirdly, I saw several videos where an Israeli sits in a chair to inject a vaccine in a shopping center, but he is not injected, but they pretend to be pricked, maybe it influenced. But in San Marino, 90% of the population was vaccinated with a satellite and, according to statistics, there has been only one infected since May. Watch the news in Argentina where the satellite is praised
                  2. +1
                    29 June 2021 20: 22
                    Quote: Moore
                    in 90% of vaccinated Israel (which I write with a mistake due to special mental abilities) a new outbreak of this infection?

                    Are you curious about the extent of this outbreak of covid in a 90% vaccinated Israel? In June, 18 people died. About 110 people fall ill a day. Compare with St. Petersburg, where the population is close to that of Israel. More than a hundred people die a day, almost one and a half thousand are infected. Are you not afraid of the increased mortality rate from covid to 8-10% in a large city of Russia?
                2. +6
                  25 June 2021 21: 30
                  "Israelis (who are 90% grafted), they do it just so that it would be"
                  yes, it looks like for that. you know that in Israel they have again introduced the mask mode. vaccination did not help, although 90% were injected
                  1. +7
                    26 June 2021 11: 29
                    In Israel. Helped. The unvaccinated part of the population - schoolchildren - picks up and transfers covid. There are no severe cases. In hospitals, 25 people remained who have been lying for a long time - with chronic diseases that worsened after covid.
                    1. -2
                      27 June 2021 09: 02
                      "In Israel. Helped"
                      but what about the newly introduced mask mode? and, it turns out, not 90% have taken root. and 60%
                      1. +2
                        27 June 2021 13: 57
                        Quote: aglet
                        and, it turns out, not 90% have taken root. and 60%

                        Where did 90% come from?
                        90% are elderly people from 70 to 100 years old.
                        The total is about 60%, which was enough for the previous viruses, but with the Delta virus, 70% is needed. Now children 12-15 years old are being intensively vaccinated, there are 800 thousand more adults who are not vaccinated.
                        Now these are mainly children of all infected, they make up 70%, all lungs. But it only took 10 days.
                      2. +4
                        27 June 2021 18: 30
                        In Israel, a third of the population is children.
                        Almost all adults and most adolescents from 15 to 18 have been instilled.
                        Now they are starting to vaccinate the group from 12 to 15
                  2. +1
                    26 June 2021 11: 38
                    Quote: aglet
                    you are aware that in Israel they have introduced the mask mode again. vaccination did not help, although 90% were injected

                    well, not 90% but 60%, and the Indian strain is more infectious and the bulk of the new carriers are children. Sick, I would not call them sick because everything is mild, but I suspect. that all this next bacchanalia with the Indian strain is being carried out in order to vaccinate children from 4 years old without any problems. shopping mall academic year in 12 months. and mothers are in no hurry to vaccinate their children.
                    the fact that vaccination helps is unambiguous and generally does not require proof. although we ourselves honestly do not believe in this COVID 9, or rather, I don’t believe its danger) - but the fact remains that with the advancement of vaccination in Israel, the number of patients has decreased by orders of magnitude
                    1. -2
                      28 June 2021 11: 00
                      "with the advancement of vaccination in Israel, the number of patients has decreased by orders of magnitude"
                      can, count on a different steel?
              2. +6
                27 June 2021 09: 06
                While we are here breaking spears about the vaccine is it good or bad, bureaucrats in St. Petersburg have shown their attitude to the pandemic and to the people.
                Zapashny about the recently held "Scarlet Sails" festival:
                “You banned restaurants from working at night, you enter QR codes so that people can simply eat or visit the sea, you have introduced a lot of new restrictions on attending events! It is you, officials, by any means, trying to force people to vaccinate and right there, you, for budget money, hold unnecessary festivals to anyone in squares with an audience of thousands! ”
            3. +1
              25 June 2021 14: 32
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              Such a loud provocation!

              That's it. Question for discussion in a madhouse. Well, at least they treat such people there, and you can debate in order to identify patients with a relapse. There is little use, so what?
            4. +15
              25 June 2021 15: 22
              I understood everything. Only those vaccinated with the same percentage of the possibility of getting sick - climb into the same midst. And how do the vaccinated differ from the unvaccinated. Stop believing in the fairy tale that the vaccine works. There are not only facts of diseases after vaccination, but also deaths from covid after vaccination.
              I am not against vaccinations. In the Soviet past, they did everything that children should do for me. But those vaccinations have been 100% tested. And this one has not passed clinical trials at all. Inject unchecked as much as your heart desires. The percentage of the possibility of getting sick again with me is the same. And you carry exactly the same danger to the thick of the people as I do without vaccination.
              1. -22
                25 June 2021 15: 28
                Quote: PROXOR
                I understood everything.

                Yes, after reading all your lower pearls, I agree that you all you understand perfectly well, and you are not a sincere madman. You - first! smile
                1. -1
                  25 June 2021 15: 34
                  And I think that you are BLIND and the guide will no longer help you. Good luck in this life, no matter how much God measures out to you.
                  1. -15
                    25 June 2021 15: 46
                    Quote: PROXOR
                    And I think that you are BLIND and the guide will no longer help you. Good luck in this life, no matter how much God measures out to you.

                    No wonder: psychiatrists all over the world claim that all madmen and madmen are firmly convinced of their health and that their doctors and everyone else are NOT healthy. lol

                    By the way, the word "water" is always written with the letter "O". Are you a foreigner or just illiterate? smile

                    And good luck to you (if your wish is sincere). Yes
                    1. +15
                      25 June 2021 15: 52
                      HA HA HA !!!
                      Then you called me a provocateur, and now again a madman. You are delusional. You urgently still need to inject a dose of covid vaccine. I donate to you. run urgently !!!!
                      1. -15
                        25 June 2021 16: 01
                        Quote: PROXOR
                        HA HA HA !!!
                        Then you called me a provocateur, and now again a madman. You are delusional. You urgently still need to inject a dose of covid vaccine. I donate to you. run urgently !!!!

                        Yes, your wish was NOT sincere ... It's a little annoying: I thought better of you. request

                        Concerning first и second, then the first does not at all exclude the second and often the first and second are combined... Didn't you know that? laughing

                        And you don't answer questions .... Who is delusional? laughing
                      2. -1
                        28 June 2021 22: 14
                        Hmm ... Zombie anti-vaccination is impenetrable by any reason.
                        All of them should have looked at Joseph Prigogine.
                        How he regretted that he could be vaccinated, but did not.
                        And then he barely survived. Miraculously. hi
                      3. -1
                        29 June 2021 20: 04
                        Quote: PROXOR
                        You are delusional. You urgently still need to inject a dose of covid vaccine.

                        A friend called my mother. The family of their relatives belonged to the anti-vaccine sect. Only the death of one of the family members from covid and the severe course of this disease in the rest forced them to abandon the belief in the uselessness and harmfulness of the vaccine.
                      4. 0
                        30 June 2021 10: 22
                        God forbid someone will get complications or die from the vaccine (and there are plenty of such cases), what will you tell later ?!
                        Enough to carry foul. If you want to inject drugs - inject, but do not behave like vegans, feminists and similar sexual minorities. There is nothing to agitate here.
              2. -19
                25 June 2021 16: 53
                Quote: PROXOR
                Stop believing in the fairy tale that the vaccine works. There are not only facts of diseases after vaccination, but also deaths from covid after vaccination.

                Deaths from covid after vaccination (our vaccine) were not recorded (you are a provocateur, you should be tried for false information), this is, firstly, and secondly, according to the statistics of vaccinated large covid, there are very few and they are mild.

                Quote: PROXOR
                And this one has not passed clinical trials at all.

                This is also a lodge, Sputnik V has passed all clinical trials.

                Quote: PROXOR
                The percentage of the chances of getting sick again is the same for you, and you carry exactly the same danger to the thick of the people as I do without vaccination.

                Where does this knowledge come from? Are you a virologist? Our virologists say the opposite.
                1. +9
                  25 June 2021 17: 41
                  Quote: Achilles
                  No deaths from covid after vaccination (our vaccine)

                  Do you think so because the media did not say about it, or do you have statistical facts?
                  Quote: Achilles
                  Are you a virologist? Our virologists say the opposite.

                  What are yours? May I be surnamed?
                  1. -4
                    26 June 2021 11: 14
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Do you think so because the media did not say about it, or do you have statistical facts?

                    There are static facts and they are in the public domain, but do you have at least some facts, or are you one of those who are simply balobolit?
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    What are yours? May I be surnamed?

                    So go to the National Research Center for Epidemiology and Microbiology named after N.F. Gamaleya, that's where virologists work who invented the Sputnik V vaccine and ask how much, and then a balabol, and so you are a simple populist and ignorant
                    1. 0
                      26 June 2021 11: 20
                      Quote: Achilles
                      There are static facts and they are publicly available.

                      Can you credit?
                      Quote: Achilles
                      Here go to the National Research Center for Epidemiology and Microbiology named after N.F. Gamaleya

                      There is nothing like leather! laughing
                      A balabol is you, my friend, and even a boor.
                      I can easily name five people with world names who are against rash vaccination and those senseless measures of the authorities.
              3. +2
                26 June 2021 11: 42
                Quote: PROXOR
                And how do the vaccinated differ from the unvaccinated. Stop believing in the fairy tale that the vaccine works. There are not only facts of diseases after vaccination, but also deaths from covid after vaccination..

                Of course there is, because hundreds of millions have already been vaccinated. Of course, not everyone has the same immune system.
                But for some reason, taking into account the fact that there is a tiny percentage of cases after vaccination. you absolutely do not want to admit the fact that in the vaccinated countries the number of patients has decreased by orders of magnitude, there are few severe cases, and there are no more deaths.
                I'm talking about Israel.
                1. -4
                  27 June 2021 06: 48
                  Chickens, as they say, are counted in the fall. In the same Israel, the rise has begun again.
                  so we should also see how the situation will develop further
            5. +13
              25 June 2021 15: 40
              Vladimir Mashkov, we were ill with the whole family, even our son was ill for 12 years, but I refuse to inject the vaccine for CHILDREN, apparently the powerful of this world want our children and grandchildren not to give birth to us. I’m AFRAID only of this. My wife and I will graft ourselves later, we have nothing to lose. But children!
              How many children participated in the tests? How many pregnant women who are already being vaccinated, what are the consequences, have forgotten the thalidomide horror?
              1. -13
                25 June 2021 15: 54
                Quote: datura23
                we got sick with the whole family

                I am not a doctor, although there are doctors in the family. I suppose you are in luck, you were ill in a mild form. Apparently, you have immunity from covid for six months. You should consult a competent and intelligent doctor about the future and questions of interest to you. But not from the "experts" and "specialists" of the Runet !!!
                1. +15
                  25 June 2021 16: 12
                  you want a universal vaccination, so tell me my children won't have delayed - programmed consequences? Answer Were children and pregnant women in trials? And if not, how can you call for universal vaccination. Thalidomide!
                  1. -16
                    25 June 2021 16: 29
                    Please DO NOT confuse everything and DO NOT lump it together! I already wrote to you that I am NOT a doctor and I do not decide ANYTHING, but only express its opinion about covid and vaccination against it.

                    I repeat: you need personal specific advice on vaccination issues competent and intelligent specialist!

                    My personal opinion - The Russian government (during the outbreak of the covid pandemic) made the absolutely correct decision on the universal vaccination of those who, in their work, communicate with a large number of people and can be a carrier of covid. If you can't or don't want to get vaccinated, leave and find yourself another job where vaccination is NOT required! This is not discrimination, but sensible health care most Russians. That unscrupulous people and enemies of Russia distort and twist in every possible way in their favor.
                    1. +12
                      25 June 2021 17: 36
                      no one knows how the vaccine will affect the fetus, are you in favor of vaccination?
                      So you approve of the experiment on unborn children, then you are Goebbels-Mengele
                      1. -11
                        25 June 2021 18: 34
                        Quote: datura23
                        no one knows how the vaccine will affect the fetus, are you in favor of vaccination?
                        So you approve of the experiment on unborn children, then you are Goebbels-Mengele

                        No, it is impossible for a normal person to talk to people like you. With you in an amicable way and patiently, you fantasize, ascribe their crazy thoughts, provoking and insulting.
                        Sincerely - be healthy!
                      2. +8
                        25 June 2021 18: 55
                        not a word on the merits of the issue - a real demagogue, it is not enough to offend you, you give sanction with your indifference to someone who is not clear, it is not clear what to do with my children what you should not be ill
                      3. -10
                        25 June 2021 19: 16
                        Quote: datura23
                        not a word on the merits of the issue - a real demagogue, it is not enough to offend you, you give sanction with your indifference to someone who is not clear, it is not clear what to do with my children what you should not be ill

                        Are you sure everything is fine with your head? After all, you called me:
                        demagogue,
                        do not care,
                        Goebbels,
                        Mengele
                        and said that I, it's me I give sanctions to it is not clear to whom for:
                        bullying pregnant women,
                        it is not clear what to do with your children
                        and approve of the experiment on unborn children.

                        No, you definitely need to see a doctor! Psychiatrist.
                      4. +5
                        25 June 2021 19: 25
                        essentially, you didn't say a word for all the answers
                      5. +15
                        25 June 2021 20: 49
                        The crux of the matter lies in the previous actions of the authorities. It is banal for Covid - 2019: if your memory is not like a fish, then surely you remember the admonitions from the irons "masks do not help" (were not available), then you were obliged to go to the toilet with them.
                        The same Moscow. Instead of quarantining those who flew from abroad, they disbanded (potential) hotbeds throughout the country. And then the whole country was quarantined. At the airport it is difficult with
                        send a prosecutor or deputy to quarantine, start waving a flyer.
                        The same incomprehensible street treatments, again in Moscow, but not in villages or even in regional capitals.
                        Etc.
                        So they don't trust the authorities. So she discredited herself. Or some of its representatives. If representatives, then it is better to select them.
                      6. +4
                        26 June 2021 10: 50
                        "No, you definitely need to see a doctor! A psychiatrist."
                        that you send everyone who disagrees with you to a psychiatrist? is this your attending physician, and you don’t know others?
                      7. -2
                        26 June 2021 11: 19
                        Quote: aglet
                        "No, you definitely need to see a doctor! A psychiatrist."
                        that you send everyone who disagrees with you to a psychiatrist? is this your attending physician, and you don’t know others?

                        No, it's just that a lot of psychiatrist patients gather here. I'm out of philanthropy! smile
                        Observe how many of them will rush to mold me a minus! By the way, this is not all: up to 140 of the sickest "patients of Margulis" usually gather for the Sabbath. Some of them, however, are "patients" another closed institutions ". laughing
                      8. -2
                        26 June 2021 13: 20
                        then you are Goebbels-Mengele

                        Only such figures will help you with your logic. fool
                    2. Aag
                      +4
                      25 June 2021 19: 35
                      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                      Please DO NOT confuse everything and DO NOT lump it together! I already wrote to you that I am NOT a doctor and I do not decide ANYTHING, but only express its opinion about covid and vaccination against it.

                      I repeat: you need personal specific advice on vaccination issues competent and intelligent specialist!

                      My personal opinion - The Russian government (during the outbreak of the covid pandemic) made the absolutely correct decision on the universal vaccination of those who, in their work, communicate with a large number of people and can be a carrier of covid. If you can't or don't want to get vaccinated, leave and find yourself another job where vaccination is NOT required! This is not discrimination, but sensible health care most Russians. That unscrupulous people and enemies of Russia distort and twist in every possible way in their favor.
                    3. +4
                      25 June 2021 19: 55
                      you are smart !! who checked before stabbing ??? How many of these clever people after the injection went under the grass in the press will not be reported !!!
                      1. -2
                        26 June 2021 13: 25
                        you are smart !! who checked before stabbing ??? How many of these clever people after the injection went under the grass in the press will not be reported !!!

                        You write as if already "under the grass" or something more serious tongue
                    4. Aag
                      +8
                      25 June 2021 21: 28
                      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                      Please DO NOT confuse everything and DO NOT lump it together! I already wrote to you that I am NOT a doctor and I do not decide ANYTHING, but only express its opinion about covid and vaccination against it.

                      I repeat: you need personal specific advice on vaccination issues competent and intelligent specialist!

                      My personal opinion - The Russian government (during the outbreak of the covid pandemic) made the absolutely correct decision on the universal vaccination of those who, in their work, communicate with a large number of people and can be a carrier of covid. If you can't or don't want to get vaccinated, leave and find yourself another job where vaccination is NOT required! This is not discrimination, but sensible health care most Russians. That unscrupulous people and enemies of Russia distort and twist in every possible way in their favor.

                      Hello!
                      Honestly, your first comment, for which you put "+". Sorry, for the previous ones, as if I did not agree, I put a "minus" ...
                      Well, so, without stopping to statements: "Yes, he is on a salary (piecework!))), And so on ... Just, thank you, for clarifying your position!
                      Further ... It is "easier for me" - for me personally, the question is not to be vaccinated, or not, there are obvious contraindications. But there are relatives, friends, colleagues ... Many people ask my opinion ... Stop! Here, let's define ourselves in terms, definitions ... Opinions, judgments, convictions are subjective by definition. They are based on personal experience, based on the Initial Data! ... Statistics have discredited themselves for a long time. Especially, - voiced in the media.
                      ... Those who are comfortable, comfortable, profitable believe.
                      ...
                      How to explain to people that it is better to go to Buryatia, to Baikal, (with PCR tests
                      QR codes,) than to Turkey? By the way, I live 73 km from Lake Baikal, and go there (without any problems, -73 km-1,2-2,5 hours, depending on traffic, I'm talking about car ... By water, along the Angara, it is very attractive, but far from everything can be pulled ..)
                      Sorry, distracted ...
                      ".... If you cannot or do not want to get vaccinated, leave and find yourself another job where vaccination is NOT compulsory! This is not discrimination, but a reasonable concern for the health of most Russians ...."
                      Do not you find that with "jobs" (despite the assurance plans, the plans of the authorities) we have a complete OPA in the Russian Federation? I don't know how interconnected, -statistics, -is such, -I'm more annoyed by the fact that to the Russians some (toughening protivokovidny) requirements, and for migrants ... somewhat ... different ...
                      Everything is muddy! ... And this is the main reason for coronation research .. IMHO ..
                    5. +10
                      25 June 2021 21: 51
                      You are unfortunately. Soviet medicine categorically prohibits mass vaccination in the midst of an epidemic. Do you know why? Immunity decreases for a short time after vaccination and a person can get sick. So there is nothing reasonable in the actions of our stewards.
            6. +16
              25 June 2021 17: 34
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              You can play with your lives as you like, strangers, without the consent of other people - you have NO right! Mandatory vaccination of people who have a lot of contacts at work is a forced measure aimed at protecting Russians from you.

              How zombified you were! What is happening is a violation of all civil rights and a global scam to please the beneficiaries, namely pharmaceutical companies. Every time they draw a peak in incidence when tests or vaccines or masks and other crap are not sold. The money from the budget for the production of the "vaccine" has already been safely mastered and divided, now it is necessary to provide a justification (although they could have just drawn it, they are no stranger to it). And good luck to you every six months on a new vaccination, because you have safely ruined your natural immunity with this rubbish, maybe you will have to pay for the third time already.
            7. -6
              26 June 2021 07: 58
              You are either very stupid or a bastard in the stake.
              1. +1
                26 June 2021 09: 56
                Quote: peter1v
                You are either very stupid or a bastard in the stake.

                In this case, you are both in one bottle.
            8. +2
              26 June 2021 08: 50
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              You can play with your lives as you like, strangers, without the consent of other people - you have NO right!

              you here called all fools, but who himself? if you are vaccinated then sleep well! you "will not get sick!" ... and all vaccinated "will not get sick" ... but the fact is that you know perfectly well that vaccination does not give any guarantees at all, against diseases (vaccination against the flu flu of the year before last!), that this is chipping under the guise of vaccination, and this is what outrages you, you are outraged by people who make decisions themselves, are responsible for themselves, and are not cowardly vaccinated because "the radio said, and they will give out an Ausweiss", so now you want to draw to all those who are not vaccinated a yellow star, as a sign of the absence of Ausweis as a sign that he is not a ram in a stall, and not a fascist henchman, and you are ready to become a cog in the matrix, lose the opportunity to make an independent decision, be obedient and safe for the predatory power of crooks and thieves, let them track you by code in your body where did you go what did you buy what you thought, let you not have children, because it is beneficial to the world behind the scenes ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBu31K6hqq0
              1. -1
                26 June 2021 16: 57
                mmm, the body is immediately visible, which did not collide with the crown ...
                1. -4
                  26 June 2021 21: 37
                  I came across, I was sick for two whole days, heaviness, weakness, slight headache, but I even had to eat 1/2 pills of paracetamol a couple of times
                  1. +3
                    27 June 2021 20: 30
                    then life does not teach you anything, but I have relatives right up to resuscitation and now you will tell me about "I already drank paracetamol"?
                    1. -2
                      28 June 2021 01: 12
                      my friend works in a covid intensive care unit, she did not intimidate me and herself, people with various chronic diseases are dying .... this is a fact! but I am generally old, I have nothing much to lose
                      1. +2
                        28 June 2021 08: 59
                        and whose to intimidate? she saw your level of development and understands that there is no point in convincing people like you, it's better to relax than waste time on you)
                2. -3
                  27 June 2021 09: 18
                  "mmm, the body is immediately visible, which did not collide with the crown."
                  did your body collide? Describe the sensations during the illness, just not so - the temperature was 37,2 and I suffered terribly. seriously, describe it, maybe I have been sick with this virus for a long time too, but I don’t know about it
                  1. +1
                    27 June 2021 20: 31
                    another flat-earth adept pulled himself up.
                    1. -1
                      28 June 2021 08: 39
                      "Another flat-earth adept has pulled himself up."
                      that is, you do not have an answer, you were not sick with a virus, and all your previous statements blah blah blah?
                      1. +3
                        28 June 2021 09: 00
                        1) have you been banned from your search?
                        2) you are holding yourself for a fool, and not me.
                        3) I already understood a simple thing - if your opponent is not very smart, like you, then there is no point in wasting time on him.
                      2. -3
                        28 June 2021 10: 55
                        "1) have you been banned from searching?"
                        I asked you to answer about feelings your body when you were sick with the virus, you could not answer, probably because you were not sick, and all your horror stories were sucked out of your finger. and since you have no arguments, you immediately go to the first law of discussion - "not very smart like you"
                      3. +4
                        28 June 2021 11: 14
                        horror stories? well, yes, a dead friend, one relative in intensive care was on oxygen for a week, three others lay at home for 2 weeks and could not even walk around the apartment properly ... well, of course, how can I know what kind of virus there is, after all aiguillette, an incomprehensible topvar bot knows everything about the coronavirus ... I wonder, who made you so stupid? life or were you dropped upside down in the hospital?
                      4. -3
                        28 June 2021 11: 41
                        "horror stories? well, yes, a dead friend, one relative"
                        did you yourself get sick? not? It means that everything that you are telling here is all hearsay, that is, gossip. How old was your friend? and what is the diagnosis?
                      5. +1
                        28 June 2021 13: 15
                        well, yes ... parents, grandmother, mother-in-law, .. this is of course "gossip" .. funny) and you know, I don’t care, you’re not a godfather or a matchmaker for me to strain and take care of your health ..
                      6. -3
                        29 June 2021 07: 41
                        "I do not care, you are not a godfather and not a matchmaker for me to strain and take care of your health .."
                        so don’t worry, I don’t need your concern, you are our caring
                      7. +2
                        28 June 2021 11: 18
                        and yes "there is no coronavirus" ... but these people just do not want to breathe

                      8. -1
                        28 June 2021 11: 46
                        "and yes" there is no coronavirus "..."
                        do you think so? there is a virus, take it easy, but its danger is greatly exaggerated. Where are these photos from? really from this, like her, proletarian. or a communal woman?
                      9. 0
                        29 June 2021 20: 32
                        Quote: aglet
                        but its danger is greatly exaggerated. Where are these photos from? really from this, like her, proletarian. or a communal woman?

                        The annual human losses from the coronavirus exceeded the human losses in the year of World War 1. Do you even consider the tragedy of the world war exaggerated?
                      10. 0
                        30 June 2021 07: 39
                        "Annual human losses from coronavirus exceeded human losses in the year of World War 1"
                        it all depends on how you count. All these people died only from the virus, or from other diseases, and from old age, too? and less pathos, otherwise soon you will accuse me of the "tragedy of world war"
                      11. 0
                        30 June 2021 03: 58
                        and yes "there is no coronavirus" ... but these people just do not want to breathe

                        The flight to the moon was filmed by the same directors.
                      12. -2
                        28 June 2021 14: 44
                        Quote: aglet
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                        do not be surprised. these are typical members of the totalitarian destructive sect of covid-privo-enthusiasts, the weak-minded victims of advertising http://lib.ru/INPROZ/ZOLYA/zola20_3.txt, as they say, "the schizophrenic believes everything, but the paranoid does not believe anyone, only paranoids survive in the internet ", and members of the destructive sect of covid-privo-enthusiasts, weak-minded victims of advertising are in the fourth stage of advertising schizophrenia, not only grafted, but also fight against all adequate people who are able to think and think critically ..... somehow they remind me of destructive totalitarian sect of aircraft carriers, which we easily smashed to smithereens as a Swede near Poltava, they are mentally weak victims of advertising
            9. +2
              26 June 2021 15: 53
              What vaccine were you vaccinated in Ukraine?
            10. 0
              26 June 2021 16: 56
              most of the unaccustomed did not face the disease, and my relatives were sick, and an acquaintance died in the village ... so without options, he injected himself in March, his wife will inject soon, and in the fall I will go for a revaccination
            11. 0
              28 June 2021 21: 28
              Question:
              For example, you are vaccinated, so you are out of danger, what are we going through?
              Altruism?
              Or is it a bench press and there are no guarantees?
              What is it?
          5. BAI
            -11
            25 June 2021 13: 43
            Why are YOU SO AFRAID OF NOT VACCINATED ?!

            Vaccinated. I will try to explain on my fingers. Those who are not vaccinated are more intense carriers of the infection. In vaccinated antibodies - the body fights, at least some obstacles create a virus. The unvaccinated have nothing. Where the vaccinated will infect one person, the unvaccinated - several (especially not vaccinated) (here it is appropriate to remember wearing a mask). And the restrictions due to covid apply to everyone: both the vaccinated (who did at least something in the fight against covid) and the unvaccinated (who did nothing). Those. the vaccinated run up against the restrictions that are introduced due to the unvaccinated.
            Why should someone do something, while others take the position: "I will not do anything, let others for me and without me?"
            Figuratively speaking, the unvaccinated are the obochniki on the road who do not want to obey the general rules.
            1. +17
              25 June 2021 13: 54
              the unvaccinated are oboechniks on the road who do not want to obey the general rules.
              You described everything in an interesting way. But the fact is that those who have been ill are also aggressively forced to vaccinate. It doesn't matter when you got sick - get vaccinated?
              So one more doubt about caring for the people.
              1. BAI
                -12
                25 June 2021 13: 56
                If an exception is made, it becomes the general rule. This law is not shaky for the Republic of Ingushetia, the USSR, the Russian Federation.
            2. +5
              25 June 2021 15: 32
              Quote: BAI
              Those who are not vaccinated are more intense carriers of the infection.

              Give documentary proof !!!!
              It's no secret that a person is immune to the virus if he has had it. Moreover, he can get sick again from a new mutation of the virus. You need to vaccinate NON-SICK and again AFTER COMPLETE CLINICAL research of the vaccine. After being ill in November, I have immunity.

              Now about the screams for antibodies. I quote the site for full ... Americans:
              Antibodies or immunoglobulins are large globular blood plasma proteins secreted by the plasma cells of the immune system and designed to neutralize the cells of pathogens (bacteria, fungi, multicellular parasites) and viruses, as well as protein poisons and some other foreign substances. Each antibody recognizes a unique element of a pathogen that is absent in the body itself - an antigen, and within a given antigen - a certain part of it, an epitope. By binding to antigens on the surface of pathogens, antibodies can either neutralize them directly or recruit other components of the immune system, such as the complement system and phagocytes, to destroy foreign cells or viral particles. Antibodies are the most important component of specific humoral immunity.

              TRANSLATION: EACH VIRUS HAS ITS ANTIBODIES !!!!! Therefore, we have overcome the Chinese, London and, after a while, Indian stamps. But the HUMAN IMMUNE SYSTEM produces antibodies, which contains information about the original code of the virus. A virus mutation does not change its original code.

              And about deaths. Well Duc if an open wound is not treated, then gangrene and blood poisoning will begin. And as a result - death.
              And 80% of those who died from covid went to doctors when they fainted from lung problems.
              At one time, I just felt the first signs of a common cold, but everyone around me is sick with covid. He did not try fate and called the doctor at home. After 2,5 days, a doctor came to me and gave me information about covid. The DANGER is not represented by those who are not vaccinated, but by those who ignore the fact that they have covid symptoms and attribute them to the common cold.
              1. +7
                25 June 2021 16: 45
                TRANSLATION: EACH VIRUS HAS ITS ANTIBODIES !!!!! Therefore, we have overcome the Chinese, London and, after a while, Indian stamps.


                My question is: How did we overcome the Chinese virus if we have less than 12% of the vaccinated population and the authorities say that 60% is needed? And the point here is not whether vaccinated or not vaccinated, but the fact that the authorities, zhurnalushki, mega experts and others like that have gone to bed. People don't believe that's all.
                1. -2
                  25 June 2021 20: 14
                  I answer. OWN IMMUNE SYSTEM !!! I am not vaccinated and the Chinese stamp of my immune has been destroyed.
                  1. -3
                    25 June 2021 20: 30
                    Quote: PROXOR
                    I answer. OWN IMMUNE SYSTEM !!!



                    I would like to remind the lovers of natural immunity about something like infant mortality a hundred years ago, when the sky was higher, arable land with a natural yield of one-two-three-ear, food is more natural, and infant mortality, for example, is higher c. And the average life expectancy is somehow lower.

                    One hundred years ago in Russia, three hundred children died per thousand born, or 30%, every third. Now it is 4-5 per thousand births. This is worse than now in the worst performing countries in Africa, such as Chad, CAR or Nigeria, where last year there were 100-120 deaths per thousand newborns. So it was until the learned sorcerers, who have a place on a public fire, began to stuff us with different chemistry.

                    Your natural immunity cannot protect even from miserable caries, because from the point of view of nature and natural population selection after thirty you are not interesting for the population and should not reproduce and pretend to eat the younger and healthier individuals of the herd. Therefore, your teeth should naturally fall out, and you naturally get stuck with hunger, or swallow what grateful young people have shared with you, having previously chewed.

                    Our natural immunity is not designed for you, but for the population, so that, for example, individuals with the most innocent chronic diseases and deviations quickly die or get to predators and not pass on their shortcomings to their offspring.

                    But you go to the dentist, where an unknown chemistry is injected into your gums, from which the gums and bone do not unnaturally hurt under a knife and a drill, although from this chemistry, in principle, side effects have been recorded in the form of sudden death, the likelihood of which, however, is negligible. And you are treating your natural tooth decay by eating modified apples unnaturally, because a natural apple is a small inedible acidic acid, like just about any natural vegetable-fruit.
                    .
                    1. -4
                      27 June 2021 06: 54
                      Nicely painted)
                    2. 0
                      28 June 2021 16: 31
                      How many hapis and it seems smooth and with the facts, but could not add 2 + 2. Well, I'll help:
                      Quote: Liam
                      I would like to remind the jubilants of natural immunity about something like child mortality a hundred years ago, when the sky was higher, arable land with a natural yield of one-two-three-ear, more natural products, and infant mortality, for example, is higher c. And the average life expectancy is somehow lower.

                      One hundred years ago in Russia, three hundred children died per thousand born, or 30%, every third. Now it is 4-5 per thousand births. This is worse than now in the worst performing countries in Africa, such as Chad, CAR or Nigeria, where last year there were 100-120 deaths per thousand newborns. So it was until the learned sorcerers, who have a place on a public fire, began to stuff us with different chemistry.

                      They wrote everything correctly and according to Darwin, only they missed one nuance. Man evolving challenged natural nature and resists natural selection on his own. People with anomalies in the body did not live in ancient times, because humans were not much different from animals. But in the process of evolution, family ties are strengthened .... strengthened (I make a reservation, with an eye on how children are now abandoning old people) and people with anomalies have a chance for life. Science and medicine have multiplied this chance many times over.


                      Quote: Liam
                      Your natural immunity cannot protect even from miserable caries, because from the point of view of nature and natural population selection after thirty you are not interesting for the population and should not reproduce and pretend to eat the younger and healthier individuals of the herd. Therefore, your teeth should naturally fall out, and you naturally get stuck with hunger, or swallow what grateful young people have shared with you, having previously chewed.

                      Our natural immunity is not designed for you, but for the population, so that, for example, individuals with the most innocent chronic diseases and deviations quickly die or get to predators and not pass on their shortcomings to their offspring.

                      But you go to the dentist, where an unknown chemistry is injected into your gums, from which the gums and bone do not unnaturally hurt under a knife and a drill, although from this chemistry, in principle, side effects have been recorded in the form of sudden death, the likelihood of which, however, is negligible. And you are treating your natural tooth decay by eating modified apples unnaturally, because a natural apple is a small, inedible acidity, like just about any natural vegetable fruit.


                      Here, to be honest, I fell into the sediment, because where the caries came from has long been written down and shown a bunch of materials. It's all about the human diet. WHY DOESN'T NATURE have teeth after a certain time? Tooth decay is a natural reaction of a tooth's calcium to acid secreted by bacteria that actively develop when teeth are cleaned. And in children, caries is as active as in an adult. But if a person is a pedant in the field of teeth, then he will be put in a coffin in his old age with a full set.
                      And the second thing. Explain. How should the immune system deal with caries? Replace calcium in bones ?!
              2. -2
                28 June 2021 14: 56
                Quote: PROXOR
                But it produces antibodies HUMAN IMMUNE SYSTEM which contains information about the original code of the virus. A virus mutation does not change its original code.

                what nonsense !!!! read again what you wrote !!!!! you have a collapse of logic, a severe defeat in the ability to think, possibly caused by the fact that you were chipped with a liquid chip in order to turn you into an obedient slave ... and think about why people get the flu every year, and what is a mutation if it does not change the code? and how does the body foresee and develop antibodies in advance, how does it know that it will receive a new virus and how does it know its code in advance? why, then, the population did not cease to be sick because the flu virus for so many years, and its code (as you claim) has not changed ...
                1. -1
                  28 June 2021 16: 19
                  It is immediately clear that you read through the line because it is hard for you to master the entire text.
                  Ok, popular for you. Antibodies in humans do not live permanently. If the body is not infected, they come out in the traditional way.
                  The bottom line is simple: each virus has its own antibodies. In other words, some for flu, and others for covid. But the body takes time to produce antibodies. The immune system, having in its "memory" the original code of the virus, already unmistakably indicates all its derivatives.
                  And that's how nonsense you wrote about the fact that the body produces them in advance. He begins to produce them, at the request of the immune system. Those. no matter how much you were sick with the flu, with its next mutation, if for a long time, then someone will sneeze once and you get sick. And if recently, then the virus will have to try very hard to make you sick.
                  How does this relate to covid? Yes, exactly the same. Those who have been ill carry the original covid virus code in their immune systems. And this virus is very aggressive. But vaccination does not kill the virus; it carries the weak stamp of the virus. Well, why is it still needed in the body, when the body is already busy. You just need to give time and fight the consequences of a virus attack on the human body. The main thing is to act immediately, and not wait until you are barely breathing, taken away by ambulance.

                  PS: For example, in the USSR, a child was not given a vaccine against a particular disease if he had had it.
                  So if you want to use drugs, continue using them. Just leave alone those who are not going to become experimental mice.

                  PPS: Please, YOU. Read everything that is not written in a line.
                  1. 0
                    28 June 2021 16: 27
                    Honestly, my wife and I "went crazy" from your explanation ... It is still not clear who is who and where ...
                    Please state your point of view, otherwise it's really some kind of garbage. You propose hypotheses, or explain immunology ...
                    1. -1
                      29 June 2021 10: 32
                      I'm tired of explaining to you all. If you want to inject drugs, it’s a good deal. Just do not convert others into your sect and divide society as the same Sobyanin does.
                  2. 0
                    28 June 2021 23: 15
                    Quote: PROXOR
                    But vaccination does not kill the virus; it carries the weak stamp of the virus.

                    yes, vaccination is the inoculation of a weakened virus to develop immunity to it (that is, the ability to produce antibodies), viruses are all different, and therefore it is pointless to get vaccinated against the flu of the year before last, especially for those who have already had it ... I had chickenpox in the middle of the last century, I do not need vaccination from chickenpox, I still have immunity to it
                    1. 0
                      29 June 2021 10: 34
                      WELL AND WHAT IS IT FOR ME ?! I already had it.
                      And the flu shot always reminded me of American aspirin. Which can be swallowed in handfuls in the hope of a placebo effect.
            3. +2
              25 June 2021 15: 46
              the infected one is already vaccinated - in a natural way, the only difference is that the immune response to a live virus is much stronger and subsequently there are more antibodies. The danger when the newly infected communicates with others
              1. +1
                28 June 2021 16: 37
                So this is not a question of vaccination, but a question of responsibility. When I felt unwell in November, I came home and called the doctor. Immediately. Moreover, the symptoms are weakness, fever, and so on, which previously talked about the flu, but certainly not about covid. The doctor came and I insisted on a smear.
                And there are individuals who are ill continue to come to work, ride public transport and lead a full lifestyle.
                But the question is what. I am immune to covid. Why should I constantly inject this vaccine, which will infect my body all the time and shorten my life ?!
                Well, a mega-question to the organizers of vaccination, about the abolition of the exemption from vaccination for pregnant women.
                WHAT?! Those. a pregnant woman who carries a baby under her heart is DELIBERATED with covid. For this alone, the Minister of Health of the Russian Federation should be tried. It undermines the future generation for our country.
            4. -6
              25 June 2021 21: 50
              "Vaccinated. I will try to explain on the fingers. Unvaccinated - more intense carriers of infection. In vaccinated antibodies - the body fights, at least some obstacles to the virus. especially not vaccinated) "
              the virus does not care who wears it - vaccinated or unvaccinated. so that they infect others in exactly the same way. The effectiveness of the vaccine is in great doubt - at least, this is what Sobyanin believes, forcing the vaccinated to inject earlier. and there are also healthy people who have their own natural immunity, which does not require additional vaccination, and there are many of them, but no one remembers about them - they violate statistics. if a person is not vaccinated and not sick, why should he be discriminated against on the basis of non-vaccination? we, it seems, all people are equal, even according to our pocket constitution, if we have a terrible epidemic, let them declare an emergency, strict quarantines, indispensable vaccinations for everyone, not just the electorate and servants, bans for everyone to travel abroad, and not only to the neighboring area. close Turkey, not the Krasnodar Territory. if none of this is present, it means that the virus is not so terrible, and the authorities are escalating psychosis with vaccinations for another reason, which is still unknown to us
            5. +1
              26 June 2021 21: 39
              Quote: BAI
              Figuratively speaking, the unvaccinated are the obochniki on the road who do not want to obey the general rules.

              it’s freethinking and the ability to have your own opinion and make decisions about an adult and resent you ... obochechniki are those who are in front and are not members of a herd of sheep
            6. 0
              28 June 2021 21: 33
              That is, the whole point is in "at least some" !?
          6. -13
            25 June 2021 13: 45
            Quote: PROXOR
            Why are YOU SO AFRAID OF NOT VACCINATED ?!

            Don't you understand? You can be a potential carrier of infection. Even if you tolerate it asymptomatically. Therefore, worrying about how my work collective will fulfill the production program, I will remove the unvaccinated from it. And yes, I won't pay him for absenteeism. If he wants to quit, I will let him go without persuasion. There are already precedents.
            1. +2
              25 June 2021 21: 54
              "Don't you understand? You can be a potential carrier of the infection. Even if you carry it asymptomatically. Therefore, worrying about how my work team will fulfill the production program, I will remove the unvaccinated from him."
              just such a carrier of the virus can be a vaccinated one, remove it too. if a person is sick, refuses to be treated and infects others, this is one thing, but if a person is healthy, why punish him, deprive him of work, livelihood?
            2. +17
              25 June 2021 23: 22
              Quote: Hagen
              Don't you understand? You can be a potential carrier of infection. Even if you tolerate it asymptomatically.


              Quote: Hagen
              Therefore, worrying about how my work collective will fulfill the production program, I will remove the unvaccinated from it.

              So you yourself will become a "machine", it will be more useful. Tongue grind - do not roll bags. (pog) laughing
              1. 0
                29 June 2021 20: 48
                Quote: kapitan92
                So you yourself will become a "machine", it will be more useful

                At the enterprise where I previously worked in early February, everyone was vaccinated. Not a single case of coronavirus. Management appreciated the wisdom and economic benefits of the decision. Moreover, the employees were told. The appearance of a patient with covid at the enterprise causes dismissal. By the way, those caught at work drunk are also fired in 90% of cases or fined in the amount of 20% of the monthly salary. For smoking in a non-designated place, there is also a large fine. The company does not experience problems with the lack of personnel.
                1. 0
                  29 June 2021 21: 10
                  Quote: gsev
                  The company does not experience problems with the lack of personnel.

                  Your company is in trouble with the Law!
                  Quote: gsev
                  The appearance of a patient with covid at the enterprise causes dismissal.

                  laughing You explain this to the court! Is the concept of the Labor Code of the Russian Federation (Labor Code of the USSR) familiar?

                  Quote: gsev
                  By the way, those caught at work drunk are also fired in 90% of cases or fined in the amount of 20% of the monthly salary.

                  This is as much as necessary. hi
                  1. 0
                    29 June 2021 22: 22
                    Quote: kapitan92
                    The company does not experience problems with the lack of personnel.

                    Your company is in trouble with the Law!
                    Quote: gsev
                    The appearance of a patient with covid at the enterprise causes dismissal.

                    You explain this to the court! Is the concept of the Labor Code of the Russian Federation (Labor Code of the USSR) familiar?

                    The company is not mine and I don't even work there now. The management does not experience any difficulties in dismissal and in finding personnel. It's just that the entire management got sick with the coronavirus, which stimulated it to quickly and convincingly vaccinate its employees. If necessary, the person is invited to quit in an amicable way. It did not allow rallies of dissenting people without much tension. It would be fun for me to watch the opposition of vaccine dissent and management at this firm. I bet that the administration of this company will be able to stifle such opposition more efficiently and faster than Putin and Lukashenko.
            3. 0
              28 June 2021 21: 36
              And if you don't quit?
              You can remove it, but you cannot replace it, who works?
              Or remove everyone and sit and wait?
              And replace, he can go to court until the laws are changed arbitrarily, by "revolutionary necessity."
              1. 0
                28 June 2021 22: 29
                Quote: Revival
                And if you don't quit?
                You can remove it, but you cannot replace it, who works?

                No problem, hiring on GPA.
                Quote: Revival
                Or remove everyone and sit and wait?

                Everyone is not needed, they are already vaccinated, they received their couple of days for vacation and are quite happy with their lives. And, characteristically, no one died ... wink And from your straightforward questions, it is noticeable that you are a leader of the highest level ... laughing
                1. 0
                  28 June 2021 23: 17
                  Thanks for the empty, meaningless comment.

                  Expected
                  1. +1
                    28 June 2021 23: 28
                    Quote: Revival
                    Thanks for the empty, meaningless comment.

                    Expected

                    As you asked, this is the answer you received.
                2. -1
                  28 June 2021 23: 19
                  They also vote ...
                  So we are happy with everything as usual ..
                  Do not get lost, you can reduce their salary to a stew, they are ready
          7. +1
            25 June 2021 13: 53
            I was grafted. And I'm not afraid of you. In general, what are you talking about? We have two dozen people in our department. Two are vaccinated, there are those who have recovered. Nobody shies away from anyone. What is your "conclusion" about people's fear of each other?
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            1. +2
              25 June 2021 15: 47
              we will all die, but in your own words - a war is being waged with us, are you really not afraid of sabotage among the producers, that the enemy has little money to bribe at least the full staff of the Gamaleya Institute?
              1. -12
                25 June 2021 15: 52
                Well yes. War. With a pandemic, with a virus. And tell the grandmothers on the bench about the world Masonic conspiracy. They will believe, they will definitely believe.
                1. +4
                  25 June 2021 16: 13
                  in your opinion the virus is from a bat, you are 7 dozen and do you believe in chance?
                  1. -11
                    25 June 2021 16: 22
                    Plague, cholera, Spanish flu, smallpox, typhus, anthrax, etc. etc. - "This was all invented by Churchill in the eighteenth year"?
                    1. -1
                      25 June 2021 17: 38
                      Of course not
                2. -2
                  28 June 2021 21: 38
                  And the State Department, and the "navalnists", "liberals", they are not asleep
              2. -1
                26 June 2021 19: 51
                Quote: datura23
                Are you not afraid of sabotage among the producers, that the enemy has little money to bribe at least the entire staff of the Gamaleya Institute?

                Yes, yes, there are enemies everywhere, and we are all corrupt (except for you, of course).
                1. -1
                  28 June 2021 21: 39
                  Well, all our troubles come from them!
                  Do you disagree chtoli?
              3. +1
                29 June 2021 20: 53
                Quote: datura23
                to bribe at least the full staff of the Gamaleya Institute?

                For a true professional, dedication to the work you serve is not an empty phrase. It is impossible to achieve outstanding success for a person who does not have principles. They bribe more often losers who are offended by more talented colleagues and the whole world around them.
            2. +17
              25 June 2021 17: 25
              Quote: Pushkar
              there is a war, a pandemic, and for all those infected you would put you against the wall according to the laws of wartime. The hand would not flinch.

              Not a day without a war ...

              You were not pricked there by mistake with pervetin?
              1. -2
                26 June 2021 19: 57
                Quote: Hyperion
                You were not pricked there by mistake with pervetin?

                Pervitin is spelled a little differently. And then, I don’t refuse - there is a war, a war of the microworld against humanity, and in the 21st century, everything is blamed on the machinations of a bourgeois neighbor ...
                1. +2
                  26 June 2021 20: 59
                  Quote: Pushkar
                  there is a war, a war of the microcosm against humanity

                  Oh ... Seeing what humanity is turning into and what has done, it is not so obvious: which side to take ...
                2. -1
                  29 June 2021 20: 56
                  Quote: Pushkar
                  You were not pricked there by mistake with pervetin?

                  Pervitin is spelled a little differently. And then, I don’t refuse - there is a war, a war of the microcosm against humanity

                  Back in the 20th century, quarantine violators were shot on sanitary cordons during epidemics.
            3. +7
              25 June 2021 21: 58
              "I am not afraid of you, anti-vaccines, but there is a war, a pandemic, and for all those infected with you I would put you against the wall according to the laws of wartime. My hand would not flinch."
              and how can you figure out who infected you, the unvaccinated, or the vaccinated stupid bastard? and I hope no one will give you the opportunity to shoot people, even the unvaccinated.
            4. -6
              26 June 2021 08: 03
              Accept haloperidor, you idiot
          9. -11
            25 June 2021 16: 22
            Quote: PROXOR
            For some reason I cannot get an answer from the vaccinated: Why are you so afraid of not vaccinated ?!

            I'm afraid that someone like you (a potential vector) will meet people who cannot be vaccinated for health reasons, did you know that after a heart attack you cannot be vaccinated for half a year? And it turns out that you can potentially infect such people. they are not protected. Do you even understand what you are doing? Because of people like you, people can die. People like you (anti-vaccinators) are not distant and stupid people.
            1. +1
              25 June 2021 22: 08
              "I'm afraid that someone like you (potential carrier)"
              Yes, you finally understand that the virus is equally tolerated by both vaccinated and unvaccinated, and such people about whom you care so touchingly, they can infect with the same probability. or not to infect
              "Do you at least understand what you are doing? Because of people like you, people can die."
              and because of people like you, too
              1. -4
                26 June 2021 11: 36
                Quote: aglet
                "I'm afraid that someone like you (potential carrier)"
                Yes, you finally understand that the virus is equally tolerated by both vaccinated and unvaccinated, and such people about whom you care so touchingly, they can infect with the same probability. or not to infect
                "Do you at least understand what you are doing? Because of people like you, people can die."
                and because of people like you, too

                Where did you get this information that the virus is equally transferred, both vaccinated and not vaccinated. This is not how you will not understand that the chance of getting infected in a vaccinated person is much less than that of an unvaccinated person, and this is according to official statistics and research that is in the public domain. And if the vaccinated and infected, then the lethal outcome is much less than not, look at the statistics and see what percentage of the dead who are not vaccinated and vaccinated, you do not need to be a scientist to conclude that it is better to be vaccinated than not.
                1. -1
                  27 June 2021 09: 07
                  "look at the statistics and see what percentage of the dead are not vaccinated and vaccinated"
                  have you seen her, these statistics?
                  "Where did you get this information that the virus is equally tolerated, both vaccinated and not vaccinated"
                  Yes, elementary, Watson, even on the outer surfaces of his carcass, not to mention the inner content. vaccination does not kill the virus, and does not protect against infection and transport, it only softens the course of the disease
                2. -1
                  28 June 2021 23: 26
                  “You don’t understand that the chance of getting infected in a vaccinated person is much less than that of an unvaccinated person, and this is according to official statistics and studies that are in the public domain.”

                  Are you ready to answer for "much less" that did not work?

                  According to official statistics, we need to "raise the retirement age" and "welfare grows" and?
                  1. 0
                    29 June 2021 14: 15
                    Quote: Revival
                    Are you ready to answer for "much less" that did not work?

                    Not one vaccine in the world gives a 100% result, you at least understand that a vaccine gives 90% safety, and a figure of 10% says that this is such a small chance of getting infected, this is much better than a 100% chance of getting infected, isn't it? And besides, if he got infected, then this gives a guaranteed chance that the disease will not pass so hard.
                    An example of San Marino in which 90% of our vaccinations were vaccinated since May, only one got infected and now we have just horror, a lot of sick people and many die, here is a real example, what else is needed?
                    And what you write
                    Quote: Revival
                    So we have sunk, in the comments, to the next stage:

                    1st was "all around the enemies."

                    We arrived ...
                    2nd "enemy is everywhere among us":
                    Underdeveloped, carriers, navalnist, flawed, etc.

                    And these people blame someone for "separatists" and so on, but they themselves would have called for "to shoot like mad dogs" for less!
                    Already, some with an "unwavering hand" are happy to shoot those who did not vaccinate !!!

                    This eris, I will not comment, you need to be treated.
                3. 0
                  29 June 2021 21: 01
                  Quote: Achilles
                  Where did you get this information that the virus is equally transferred, both vaccinated and not vaccinated.

                  An unvaccinated person has an almost 100% chance of dying from smallpox. After the worldwide anti-smallpox campaign, the disease disappeared.
              2. 0
                28 June 2021 21: 46
                So we have sunk, in the comments, to the next stage:

                1st was "all around the enemies."

                We arrived ...
                2nd "enemy is everywhere among us":
                Underdeveloped, carriers, navalnist, flawed, etc.

                And these people blame someone for "separatists" and so on, but they themselves would have called for "to shoot like mad dogs" for less!
                Already, some with an "unwavering hand" are happy to shoot those who did not vaccinate !!!
            2. +2
              25 June 2021 22: 14
              Achilles (Alexander)
              Today, 16: 22
              People like you (anti-vaccinators) are not distant and stupid people.

              Just think - we finally hit the barbarism! They rejected such achievements of democracy as homosexuality, lesbian love, bestiality, necrophilia, caprophagia, Saint Phil, the patron saint of gerontophiles ... but your problem is in the very existence of us as a population.
              1. 0
                26 June 2021 11: 38
                Quote: kreck
                Achilles (Alexander)
                Today, 16: 22
                People like you (anti-vaccinators) are not distant and stupid people.

                Just think - we finally hit the barbarism! They rejected such achievements of democracy as homosexuality, lesbian love, bestiality, necrophilia, caprophagia, Saint Phil, the patron saint of gerontophiles ... but your problem is in the very existence of us as a population.

                You just wrote eris and has nothing to do with vaccination.
              2. 0
                29 June 2021 21: 05
                Quote: kreck
                Rejected democracy gains such as homosexuality

                In democratic Great Britain, the world famous mathematician Turing was castrated for homosexuality by a court decision. Under Stalin, this crime was not punished so severely.
          10. -8
            25 June 2021 17: 12
            Don't confuse fear and disgust.
          11. +8
            25 June 2021 17: 21
            Quote: PROXOR
            Inject yourself - the flag is in your hands.
            For some reason I cannot get an answer from the vaccinated: Why are you so afraid of not vaccinated ?!

            They just begin to understand what kind of stupidity they have let go of being zombified from the box and scoundrels from the authorities. The loss of natural immunity and the upcoming vaccination every six months are not better than the flu. As the saying goes, the first dose is free .......
          12. -14
            25 June 2021 21: 23
            Moderators, administrators, who are you there on VO, absolutely fucking ??? And can you declare where to ????


            In connection with the identified cases of the spread in the information space of the Russian Federation of false information related to coronavirus infection, Roskomnadzor warns the media and information resources of the Internet operating in the territory of the Russian Federation and / or aimed at the audience in the Russian Federation about liability before the law.

            Roskomnadzor carries out round-the-clock monitoring of all mass media, social networks, video hosting sites, TV and radio broadcasting companies to identify inaccurate information that sows panic and provokes public concern among citizens of the Russian Federation.

            Roskomnadzor is in constant interaction with law enforcement agencies and the General Prosecutor's Office of the Russian Federation in order to promptly and effectively respond to each detected case of the dissemination of such information.

            Roskomnadzor will take the most stringent measures against the media and other Internet resources that violate the provisions of Federal Law No. 149-FZ “On Information” regarding the dissemination of unreliable socially significant information that poses a threat of disrupting public order and security access to relevant information resources and revocation of licenses.


            https://rkn.gov.ru/news/rsoc/news72342.htm
            1. +2
              27 June 2021 04: 29
              Moderators, administrators, who are you there on VO, absolutely fucking ??? And can you declare where to ????

              The ILV is full of interested parties - not reliable. If you really decide and want a result, be sure to duplicate the information to the Prosecutor General's Office and to Rospotrebnadzor - this way it will be harder for them not to react.
              And yes, most fakecomets cannot be scared by this - their registration is not Russian.
              1. 0
                27 June 2021 07: 27
                "MILITARY REVIEW"

                Mass media registration certificate EL No. FS77-76970, issued on 11.10.2019 by the Federal Service for Supervision of Communications, Information Technology and Mass Media (Roskomnadzor).
                1. +1
                  27 June 2021 10: 40
                  "MILITARY REVIEW"

                  Perhaps RKN and VO can attract, given that commentators often violate both the law and the rules of the site, the moderators' reaction is not observed, although in other cases it is more than redundant without apparent need.
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            2. -1
              28 June 2021 21: 50
              You must not break yourself and be silent!
              The terms denunciation and snitching were invented by criminals!
              You must do as you should, convey as quickly as possible!
          13. +2
            25 June 2021 22: 42
            They are afraid of losing their slave positions.
          14. +5
            25 June 2021 23: 01
            The vaccinated are not vaccinated .... the shadow business of trade in certificates has been rocked with one statement. In general, the Krasnodar governor said interesting things: do not let people go to resorts without tests and certificates. Now Moscow and the regions are overwhelmed by a wave of leftist certificates, and for 3 rubles you will be officially added to the vaccinated database. so what now will start a business of trade in certificates to flourish))) And so already the whole Internet is full of offers with home delivery))) anecdote damn it, not the government)))
          15. +2
            26 June 2021 09: 23
            PROXOR: Explaining to the children of nature: the more cases of COVID, the greater the likelihood of a virus mutation that will be resistant to the vaccine. What is not clear ?
          16. -2
            26 June 2021 09: 33
            "The engineer and the anti-vaccine man come to the bridge over the river teeming with crocodiles and piranhas.
            The anti-vaccine asks the engineer:
            - Is it safe to cross this bridge?
            The engineer replies:
            - It is 99.97% safe to cross this bridge.
            - Hmm. Then I better swim. "
          17. 0
            26 June 2021 11: 54
            Inject yourself - the flag is in your hands.

            Instead of eating, wash yourself
            There it is, prick and forget
            The whole crazy hospital
            Gathered at the screens
            wassat
          18. -4
            26 June 2021 14: 20
            Yes, no one is afraid of you, it's just that our money is spent on the treatment of you stubborn ones. Do we need it?
            1. 0
              28 June 2021 21: 52
              And a lot of you were outraged when "your money" was not spent there?
              1. +1
                29 June 2021 22: 11
                Right now, a unique case in history - it depends on the Russians not to waste money on nothing - on the treatment of those dying from the coronavirus, because there is an opportunity to defend themselves. All countries are rapidly vaccinated, only Russia, as usual, goes its own way - though, in this case, just with its forehead into a new gate. As a result, all countries will soon switch to their normal mode of life, and the Russians will continue to run in masks. The Anglo-Saxons, he is simply in a frenzy - they simply did not expect such help in slowing down the Russian economy.
          19. 0
            26 June 2021 16: 51
            No one is afraid of you, but doctors who have been working in an emergency mode for a year do not need you for nothing .. in principle, you just need to get a mandatory vaccination, if you are against, write a refusal from honey. services and if you get sick, they will be treated at your expense, and there the price tag for a hundred square meters of hayms falls ... As one doctor friend who recently yelled about "I will not be vaccinated", after he fell into intensive care from the crown, after 4 months I will go to the vaccination and advise you .. "
          20. 0
            28 June 2021 20: 02
            I also cannot get an answer from those who do not want to inject: why are YOU SO AFRAID OF VACCINATION ?? The vaccinated have reasons, and they are specific, and with the vaccine there is no 100% protection, you can get sick and die. But the supporters of the "coronabesia" have any arguments and concrete facts against vaccination, apart from speculation and rumors? Corpses are not enough for you, hello? Just talk to anyone, almost everyone has friends who either came out of intensive care or died .. bad vaccinations, poor quality? Are the doctors bad? Then, guys, be consistent to the end: children will be born, do not vaccinate them against smallpox, polio and hepatitis, vaccinations are very harmful!
          21. +2
            29 June 2021 08: 00
            Because because of the unvaccinated, they can now again launch another campaign to combat all the insanity.
        2. +30
          25 June 2021 12: 04
          Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
          The trouble of all is that opinions in society about vaccination come from people who are far from medicine.

          Literally yesterday's conversation. Around 9 pm took place. With a person in whose organization, in a voluntary-firing order, a universal vaccination was carried out. Just over a week ago. Slightly more than 100 vaccinated. More than 10 people are still on sick leave. One young lady, by no means a pensioner, did not live up to 30. And it is not a fact that he will survive. For under the ventilator lies. As a result, vaccinations. Two hours ago I read an article in Zen. Another grafted young lady. There are three in the family. She, husband, mother-in-law. Three are vaccinated. On sick leave, two, she and her husband. Mother-in-law at the hospital. In general, if ... If your vaccination is so miraculous, then .... Have you been vaccinated? Well, be quiet in a rag. You will survive, but what do you care about me? Whether I die or not is my choice. And if your vaccination is a complete profanation ... Then again. Why the hell are you forcing on me a useless, but very, very unhealthy experiment?
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              1. -15
                25 June 2021 12: 21
                If you read the dialogue completely, then you would not write such nonsense.
              2. +25
                25 June 2021 12: 21
                Quote: geroy_333
                Are all "pierced" by the Sputnik aggressive? Maybe something was mixed into it?

                Why, the behavior of the grafted satellites reminds me of one of the series of the cartoon about Leopold. The one in which the wild animal appears. In gamaley, surely this cartoon was not watched during the development of the vaccine? laughing
                1. -28
                  25 June 2021 12: 27
                  There is no limit to your stupidity. It is a pity that there is no vaccination against stupidity, sometimes you really want to have such a vaccine.
                  1. +22
                    25 June 2021 12: 55
                    Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
                    It is a pity that there is no vaccination against stupidity, sometimes you really want to have such a vaccine.

                    Here you are right, you need it vitally.))))
                  2. +8
                    25 June 2021 13: 58
                    It's a shame that there is no vaccination against stupidity
                    Stop talking to the mirror.
                  3. +4
                    25 June 2021 22: 12
                    "sometimes I really want to have such a vaccine."
                    but I don't want to have it, I need it, but it can help you, you just need to inject twice and every six months
                  4. 0
                    28 June 2021 21: 54
                    In the minutes when "admits"?
                2. -3
                  25 June 2021 12: 28
                  in its production, a pure cell culture from abortive material was used - pure Satanism
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                    1. -6
                      25 June 2021 14: 17
                      do you mean to say that Orthodoxy is a disease? Suvorov and Kutuzov do not agree.
                3. -2
                  25 June 2021 14: 42
                  "officer's daughter" what else are you lying? laughing
                  1. +1
                    25 June 2021 15: 30
                    When creating the Sputnik V vaccine, the HEK 293 (Human Embryonic Kidney) cell line was used, but the vaccine itself does not contain this line, said Vladimir Gushchin, head of the laboratory of mechanisms of population variability of pathogenic microorganisms at the Gamaleya Research Center for Electrochemistry.
              3. -16
                25 June 2021 12: 43
                Quote: geroy_333
                Are all "pierced" by the Sputnik aggressive? Maybe something was mixed into it?

                They may have been mixed with it, but it backfired on you, judging by your inadequate reaction.
                1. +10
                  25 June 2021 17: 03

                  Behind the vaccinators are voracious multinationals. The State Duma is overflowing with lobbyists for these corporations. Therefore, people have little confidence in medical officials. Something everyone has forgotten about the US biolaboratory around Russia.
                  If the Sputnik vaccine had been manufactured in the USSR, then it would have been a different matter.)
              4. +13
                25 June 2021 16: 06
                Well I, "pierced". And not aggressive. Why bark at each other, there are enough problems without it. And then we will start a civil war, God forbid. Here we all will not survive. And vaccinated and refuseniks.
                1. +1
                  28 June 2021 21: 57
                  Now, that's exactly right.
                  And then they have already shared, but with such aggression that they would directly "shoot" all the unvaccinated!
                  How little it turned out to be!
                  1. -3
                    28 June 2021 22: 12
                    Quote: Revival
                    Why bark at each other, there are enough problems without it.

                    Quote: Revival
                    Now, that's exactly right.

                    And all these are inept attempts to distract people from real, pressing problems.
                    1. -1
                      28 June 2021 23: 16
                      Yes, that's just, this way of avoiding real problems, potentially generates big problems!
                      1. -2
                        29 June 2021 07: 27
                        Quote: Revival
                        Yes, that's just, this way of avoiding real problems, potentially generates big problems!

                        Who cares about that? They live in the present day and do not associate their future with Russia.
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              1. +6
                25 June 2021 12: 39
                Why all of a sudden such concern?

                Let me explain - in the entire territory where God's chosen ones are going to live, compulsory vaccination will be carried out.)))
                This is their indispensable condition and the opinion of the local natives does not interest them.)))
                1. +9
                  25 June 2021 15: 26
                  Quote: lucul
                  Why all of a sudden such concern?

                  Let me explain - in the entire territory where God's chosen ones are going to live, compulsory vaccination will be carried out.)))
                  This is their indispensable condition and the opinion of the local natives does not interest them.)))

                  Pomnitsa, recently elected by God, boasted that they practically defeated the crown by mass vaccination and canceled the mask regime in Israel, and today, according to RBC, citing the “Israel of Times,” they are again introducing a mask regime and a ban on the entry of vaccinated tourists. There was a surge of diseases again, but this time with the Indian strain .. winked https://www.rbc.ru/society/25/06/2021/60d584739a7947792e20c40e..
                  1. +3
                    25 June 2021 15: 29
                    There was a surge of diseases again, but with an Indian strain.

                    That is yes.
                    One here has already presented me with a throw - they say I distribute feki to the same information)))
                  2. 0
                    26 June 2021 13: 43
                    The surge in incidence in Israel went, but at the same time none of the vaccinated were hospitalized. The effectiveness of Pfizer from the Indian version is 88%, and from the severe form of the disease is almost 100%
                2. -2
                  28 June 2021 22: 16
                  Quote: lucul
                  Let me explain - in the entire territory where God's chosen ones are going to live, compulsory vaccination will be carried out.)))

                  For slaves, are you going to be one of them? Or did I not really understand you because of the removed comment?
                  1. 0
                    28 June 2021 22: 22
                    For slaves, are you going to be one of them?

                    Statement of fact. It just shows how strong their power is in Russia.
                    1. 0
                      28 June 2021 22: 46
                      Quote: lucul
                      Statement of fact. It just shows how strong their power is in Russia.

                      Whose power is strong in the Russian Federation? If you are about Jews, then you are wrong. Otherwise, all "our leaders" will immediately turn out to be Jews, i.e. Is Putin a Jew? But this is not so.
              2. +19
                25 June 2021 12: 42
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Why all of a sudden such concern?

                Babosy invested, you have to fight back. You can't take much from the third world (except perhaps with the same palm oil). Wealthy countries are in no hurry to take. This leaves an internal resource. And until they are taken away, it will be "voluntarily" - either vaccination or dismissal - and what, a free choice
                1. +12
                  25 June 2021 12: 47
                  Quote: NDR-791
                  And until they are taken away, it will be "voluntarily" - either vaccination or dismissal - and what, a free choice

                  I also fall under the obligation. I will butt, and if it does not work out, negotiate a certificate. request
                  Quitting with a mortgage, car loan, and three young children is not an option.
                  1. +10
                    25 June 2021 14: 02
                    I will butt
                    The choice is so-so, on the one hand the wolves, on the other the desert.
              3. -12
                25 June 2021 14: 08
                In Astana, a young man died a few hours after being vaccinated with Sputnik vi. After the first vaccination or the second - what is the cause of death, what is the heart attack or what? Something in 60 countries Sputnik V is used and from there there was not a single news that someone died from exposure to the vaccine.
                1. -17
                  25 June 2021 14: 39
                  Another cowardly "officer's daughter" laughing
              4. -16
                25 June 2021 15: 08
                another "officer's daughter" laughing
              5. +9
                25 June 2021 21: 00
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                The next one - you didn’t try to think why “our” authorities, who have measuredly destroyed medicine, importing here millions of tons of palm oil, leading to oncology (and the death rate from oncology is higher than from covid), suddenly became concerned about the obsessive idefix about the health of Russians?
                Why all of a sudden such concern?

                hi
                So the elections to the State Duma are coming soon! I would not be surprised if a lockdown is announced on the eve of the elections and everyone is "put" in remote voting, where it is technically impossible to control the votes. You can not be admitted to elections without a code! laughing
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                official propaganda hides statistics. What to do with them?

                So this is one of the reasons for mistrust of the authorities and the vaccination company. In Russia, we can find the results of side effects of "pfizer", "modern", etc., the number of industrial diseases, inflammations and deaths. That's just about the "satellite" info is strictly classified: there are no "side effects" and everything is just super.
                In May, in the Crimea and Sochi, priests were already jostling, what kind of masks were there? European Football Championship in St. Petersburg at the stadium of 40 thousand people, fan zones of 4-5 thousand, in the metro, like "a herring in a barrel."
            3. +16
              25 June 2021 12: 53
              Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
              All of you, such deceitful creatures, just have to be against the wall.

              Are you talking about yourself? Here you are right, it's high time, it would be easier to breathe.
            4. +12
              25 June 2021 14: 00
              Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
              All of you, such deceitful creatures, just have to be against the wall.


              just over 42% of more than XNUMX survey participants are anti-vaccine


              We are almost half of the country
            5. +13
              25 June 2021 14: 04
              Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
              All of you, such deceitful creatures, just need to be against the wall

              Be careful when cornering. Do not blame everyone for lying. Sometimes you need to listen to what others say, such as Doctor of Medical Sciences, Professor, specialist in epidemiology and preventive medicine Igor Gundarov is convinced that mass vaccination with a drug developed in a hurry This is what he said specifically: So let's focus on mortality rates. This is the second important criterion, which says whether it is relevant or irrelevant for us now to rush to vaccinate? If we compare the waves of deaths from pneumonia over the past six years, in recent years, each wave has been slowly declining. And in 2020, we have the lowest death rates from pneumonia!

              Now you can imagine how confused I am. I do not see any objective reason for vaccination. The epidemic situation in Russia is normal, the waves of mortality from pneumonia are much less than they were in the past, the year before last and six years ago. "SP": - Why then such a rush to develop a vaccine? They have already announced that she is ready, and even President Putin said that his daughter tested the drug on herself. Is this a political issue?

              - I am surprised by the chaos that reigns now in the scientific world in the field of virology and vaccination. One respected person says you need to get vaccinated. The other is what is not needed. And both are academicians.

              One says the credits have been reached. Another is that it is not clear what level of antibody titers is required?

              Today, we have two centers at once developing vaccines - the Gamaleya Center in Moscow and the Vector Center in Novosibirsk. They did not even agree among themselves on the standards for conducting vaccine testing. They have different approaches and views.

              You say that Vladimir Vladimirovich referred to his daughter. But who can prove to me that she received this vaccine? This seems dubious to me.

              As a psychologist and social psychologist, I can say that our president has a penchant for narcissism. Perhaps now he wants to show the whole world: I ordered and the vaccine was made! We are the first, the strongest and the wisest! It is no coincidence that the vaccine was even symbolically named with the beautiful word "Sputnik". That is, we sort of compare the significance of that result in space and this one.

              And competent virologists all over the world laugh at us. We have not even met the mandatory standards for vaccine development. As a rule, it must go through three stages. We went through only two ...... There is a full videohttps: //youtu.be/FAiqEL-1uxI We must watch and draw conclusions ourselves, and not repeat what the current government carries from TV. Since 91, she has not done anything good for the people, why did she suddenly start showing such concern?
          2. -9
            25 June 2021 13: 56
            Quote: Lannan Shi
            You will survive, but what do you care about me? Whether I die or not is my choice.

            If my memory serves me right, then you train other people's children. Not? This is where the interest comes from. In general, on formal grounds, you fall under the government decree on anti-infectious measures. Your personal destiny is hardly interesting to anyone except your loved ones. Leaving your children orphans is not a worthy prospect. But in any case, this is your choice. But endangering other people's children is a crime. And here's another, all the talk that somewhere someone somehow died from something unknown, also from Zen, generally the height of disinformation. It would be really something worthy of attention, "Voice ...." from each iron about your "did not live" in every way would broadcast.
          3. -8
            25 June 2021 15: 49
            Slightly more than 100 vaccinated. More than 10 people are still on sick leave. One young lady, by no means a pensioner, did not live up to 30. And it is not a fact that he will survive. For under the ventilator lies.

            What kind of game are you trying to sell? Itself took root, a bunch of acquaintances took root - no problem. A small temperature (and even then not for everyone), a slight malaise, everything passes the maximum in a day.
            1. +2
              26 June 2021 11: 52
              Quote: Vasia
              What kind of game are you trying to sell? Itself took root, a bunch of acquaintances took root - no problem. A small temperature (and even then not for everyone), a slight malaise, everything passes the maximum in a day.

              I didn't have anything at all, but my brother had malaise, and then only in the evening, and in the morning all the rules
              1. -1
                26 June 2021 12: 59
                I didn't have anything at all, but my brother had malaise, and then only in the evening, and in the morning all the rules

                It would not hurt to be held accountable for outright fakes. Okay, more facts, but they drive empty people in their pure form, fooling people, exposing them to mortal danger. All who die from not being vaccinated, tk. were fooled by the fakomets, on their conscience. They actually accomplices in mass murder... Certainly not as the forum member suggested above regarding Lannan Shi (if memory serves) in a deleted comment:
                All of you, such deceitful creatures, just need to be against the wall

                But it wouldn’t hurt to prove your fakes in court, I couldn’t - get a fine of 500 thousand or a kopeck piece on a bunk. There would be less crap on resources.
                1. +2
                  26 June 2021 16: 02
                  Quote: Vasia
                  It would not hurt to be held accountable for outright fakes. Okay, more facts, but they drive empty in their pure form, fooling people, exposing them to mortal danger. All who die from not being vaccinated, tk. were fooled by the fakomets, on their conscience. They are actually complicit in the massacres.

                  The same opinion, it is necessary to prosecute all faycomets.
                2. -4
                  27 June 2021 09: 30
                  "But it wouldn’t hurt to prove your fakes in court, I couldn’t - get a fine of 500 thousand or two dollars on bunks. There would be less shit on the resources."
                  and you can also shoot with a machine gun! laughing
                  1. 0
                    27 June 2021 10: 22
                    and you can also shoot with a machine gun!

                    Well I said above that I do not agree with such methods, you inattentively read my comment, to which you reacted.
        3. +6
          25 June 2021 12: 10
          I, as the owner of my body, have the right to decide what to stick into it
          1. -5
            25 June 2021 15: 38
            Quote: datura23
            I, as the owner of my body, have the right to decide what to stick into it

            your body is a link in the transmission of the virus, its potential carrier, and this poses a danger to society.
            A mask as a means of prevention is required, vaccination, an advanced, technological method is not required ?? I suppose that only the victims (lost soldiers) of the information war can think so. Individual "freedom" to the detriment of public safety is the main achievement of Capitalism, its victory for the minds of people !!!!
            1. +14
              25 June 2021 17: 54
              Quote: aybolyt678
              your body is a link in the transmission of the virus, its potential carrier, and this poses a danger to society.

              The body of the vaccinated transmits the virus no worse. The fact is that vaccinations against coronavirus do not protect against the disease, they soften its course. It doesn't work the same way as smallpox, polymithitis, and mumps vaccinations.
              Vaccinated people risk getting sick no less.
              Even vaccine developers do not hide this. hi
              1. -3
                25 June 2021 19: 24
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                The body of the vaccinated transmits the virus no worse

                Sorry, but I repeat, you are a victim of an information war. The chief physician of GKB # 40 (hospital in Kommunarka) Denis Protsenko published on his Facebook page such data that there are only two vaccinated for 1440 patients!
                for the vaccinated body to transmit the virus, the virus must begin to multiply. In the presence of an antibody titer, which is detected by a test, the virus has no chance. I am a virologist. don't argue.
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Even vaccine developers do not hide this.

                vaccine developers simply do not want to be responsible for some of the nuances, I tell you: imagine that you were vaccinated, and on the same day, eating a chalagach, you damaged the palate with a bone, rushed to the wound to the blood and microflora of the mouth! what will the immune system react to? on live microbes in a wounded mouth or on weakened viral proteins, ??? the answer is obvious .... just as immunity is not formed in people with worms or acute prostatitis. So much for 5 percent of those who do not respond to the vaccine. Put on your hat laughing
                1. +11
                  25 June 2021 19: 47
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  The chief physician of GKB No. 40 (hospital in Kommunarka) Denis Protsenko published the following data on his Facebook page,

                  The chief physician is running for the State Duma from the EP, although less than a week ago he confidently stated the opposite. He is no longer a doctor, but a court showman.
                  Next - vaccination during an epidemic, what is it like?
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  I am a virologist. don't argue.

                  How do you feel about academicians Chuchalin, Zverev? wink
                  1. -5
                    25 June 2021 20: 44
                    You know, Protsenko is a resuscitator in the past, and these are people who know how to make decisions without agreement. In the EP, many popular people perform a title function. For example Shoigu or Lavrov. If there is a well-known doctor, and even on the eve of the elections, then this only adds more points of respect to him.
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    The next thing is vaccination during an epidemic, what is it like?

                    There are two quantities - the rate of spread of infection and the rate of vaccination coverage and the formation of mass immunity.
                    Then when the vaccination rate is faster, why not get vaccinated? I am a veterinary virologist, and I know for sure that with most infectious diseases there is always a mass vaccination. There is only one limitation - you cannot vaccinate clinically ill patients. Although there are exceptions to this rule - for example, rabies. An infected person is vaccinated! A vaccine with rapid immunogenicity has been specially developed. The incubation period in field rabies is 16 days, and vaccine immunity is formed in 11 days. Patients with Aujeszky's disease are also vaccinated.
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    How do you feel about academicians Chuchalin, Zverev?

                    I have nothing to do with it. I did not delve deeply, they are doctors, I am a veterinarian. But I see that under the guise of a pandemic, science, together with officials, is mastering money. Visible to the naked eye
                    1. 0
                      26 June 2021 11: 04
                      I despise unreasonable miners
                2. 0
                  25 June 2021 20: 12
                  you fucking virologist !!! do not hang noodles! these muzzles from dust !!!! the virus goes through without noticing this rag !! children go read fairy tales
                  1. +5
                    25 June 2021 20: 52
                    Quote: alekc75
                    you fucking virologist !!! do not hang noodles! these muzzles from dust !!!! the virus goes through without noticing this rag !! children go read fairy tales

                    please read carefully, I repeat, the muzzle was made mandatory, but the real means of struggle is voluntary. Both are means of prevention, the question is - why is one voluntary and the other mandatory?
                    Moreover, a wet muzzle is a nutrient substrate for microorganisms, and if you communicate with beautiful women, they will definitely complain that acne appears from the mask. Read carefully, I am also outraged by this. Minus you
            2. 0
              26 June 2021 17: 53
              Quote: aybolyt678
              Individual "freedom" to the detriment of public safety is the main achievement of Capitalism, its victory for the minds of people !!!!

              Worst of all, our people simply do not want to know the history of even the beginning of the twentieth century, when the "Spanish flu" took away about 17 million people in the world in three years, and more than 550 million people were ill. But the worst thing about these figures is that if in six months they could create a vaccine against this type of flu, then there would be much fewer victims, because it turned out to be only a variant of the "swine flu" virus that passed in 2009, and there were absolutely small.
              Nearly 50 years later, in July 1997, Hultin learned from an article by Jeffery Taubenberger in Science about a new way to extract genetic information from viruses from the tissues of the deceased. He contacted Taubenberger, found out that he was looking for samples of the 1918 flu, and shortly before his 73rd birthday he returned to Brevig. He again received permission to exhume the victims of the "Spanish flu", and, single-handedly working with a pickaxe, this time discovered the completely preserved remains of a plump woman, whose fat layer protected her internal organs from decomposition, the scientist hermetically sealed her lungs and, returning to San Francisco, mailed to Jeffrey Taubenberger [21] [22], who was then at the US Army Institute of Molecular Pathology (AFIP) [23]. This sample allowed American scientists in October 2002 to recreate the genetic structure of the 1918 virus, and on January 18, 2007, the Japanese scientist Kobasa et al. Published that infected monkeys (Macaca fascicularis) showed the classic symptoms of the 1918 pandemic and died from a cytokine storm - a disorder in the functioning of the immune system [24].
              A virus of the same serotype, H1N1, caused the 2009 swine flu pandemic.


              Life teaches us nothing, even with the coronavirus ...
              1. +3
                26 June 2021 21: 57
                Quote: ccsr
                Life teaches us nothing, even with the coronavirus ...

                the problem is that there is no information published by the party that is interested in the health of the people. Vaccine is a business, masks is a business, medicine is a very big business ... even several types of vaccines and their manufacturers have secrets from each other !!
                The situation is reminiscent of 1989-90, when they began to knock out supports in the public consciousness. When a person refuses to be vaccinated tries to rely on self-confidence, the refusal is understood as part of personal freedom.
        4. +17
          25 June 2021 12: 21
          The trouble of all is that opinions in society about vaccination come from people who are far from medicine. If we did everything we needed, we would have coped with the pandemic long ago

          The trouble is for everyone who repeats like a mantra that masks, and now a vaccine, will save us, that they have nothing to do with doctors. Doctors just really look at things and say that covid is forever!
          1. -7
            25 June 2021 14: 12
            No one disputes Covid forever - but if vaccinated, its consequences when infected will not be stalemate.
            1. +3
              25 June 2021 22: 23
              "Nobody argues about Covid forever - but if there is a vaccination, its consequences during infection will not be stalemate."
              and who said that? here, in six months, three new strains have already formed, for which previous vaccines have not been tested. and what will be opened in half a year ...
          2. +7
            25 June 2021 19: 32
            Quote: Horon
            Doctors just really look at things and say that covid is forever!

            he has always been.
            another thing is that there is no faith in science, in the government, in the president ... absolutely everything is questioned and the opportunity not to be grafted is perceived by many as a chance to be free ...
            And it is customary to fight for freedom.
            Covid, on the other hand, has turned from infection to a method of social training.
        5. +11
          25 June 2021 12: 51
          Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
          If we did everything we needed, we would have coped with the pandemic long ago.

          Are you talking about the optimization of medicine or about the fact that WHO cannot provide data on trials of domestic vaccines in any way? About the fact that the WHO recently revealed violations at the Ufa (if I'm not mistaken) pharmaceutical plant? Of course, if they treated medicine as they did in the USSR, then this COVID would not even be noticed. By the way, at that time people trusted the state and there were no "anti-vaccines" then. The state would treat its duties as it should, and people would treat it normally and would trust.
          1. -11
            25 June 2021 14: 18
            About the fact that WHO recently revealed violations at the Ufa (if I'm not mistaken) pharmaceutical plant? If that they revealed violations not related to the production of the vaccine itself, but related to the environmental problems of the enterprise.
            Of course, if they treated medicine as they did in the USSR, then this COVID would not even be noticed. Everything would be exactly the same as now - the total wearing of masks all over the place of antiseptics and the same vaccination company only vaccinated everyone without exception, and all anti-vaccine clowns would have been in prison for a long time.
            1. +5
              25 June 2021 14: 55
              Quote: Vadim237
              About the fact that WHO recently revealed violations at the Ufa (if I'm not mistaken) pharmaceutical plant? If that they revealed violations not related to the production of the vaccine itself, but related to the environmental problems of the enterprise.
              Of course, if they treated medicine as they did in the USSR, then this COVID would not even be noticed. Everything would be exactly the same as now - the total wearing of masks all over the place of antiseptics and the same vaccination company only vaccinated everyone without exception, and all anti-vaccine clowns would have been in prison for a long time.

              You quote, please, through the "Quote" button. Look at Karaulov's Ufa residents, on the website, he promised to give access to the WHO document on him and the original and translation. The USSR had all of the best vaccines in the world. Unlike the Russian Federation, which still cannot provide all the necessary data on testing at WHO, the USSR did not have such problems. Why Chinese vaccines are recognized by WHO. and ours are not? So why should I inject with an incomprehensible substance?
              1. +7
                25 June 2021 17: 58
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                The USSR had all of the best vaccines in the world.

                Because the USSR allocated huge funds for the development of science. Now Russia allocates tens of times less for the development of science than all developed countries. "Power" damn it. Shame.
                1. +14
                  25 June 2021 19: 25
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  "Power" damn it. Shame.

                  Not even that is a disgrace. And the shame is that people with higher education, that is, in general, they are not stupid people, will watch TV, listen to talking heads, which have been bred them for 30 years, then retire, then for medicine, bred their children and grandchildren for education and etc., and then they carry all this game, then about Ukraine, then about COVID, then in general some kind of Nazi nonsense, it is a shame to be so headless. Either a person is aware of his class interests or he becomes socially dangerous, since all this nonsense is carried to the masses.
                2. +2
                  25 June 2021 19: 35
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Because the USSR allocated huge funds for the development of science.

                  no, the goal of science was to serve the country ... and then this lady (science) began to serve money, at first the Sarov grants and then who would have to
        6. +6
          25 June 2021 15: 28
          Have you heard that the satellite was allowed for pregnant women? Is there information on how many pregnant women participated in previous vaccine trials?
        7. +12
          25 June 2021 17: 16
          You're right. There are many questions: hi
          Coronovirus delivery.
          1. How the 1st wave was delivered(they took out the imported people free of charge) and let them go to "self-isolation" (hang around) instead of isolating those who left for the pandellium in Europe. As the infectious diseases doctor said - "Previously, patients (potential) were sent to quarantine. Now they are healthy." The first wave was from Europe. Golikova admitted this.
          2. Now there is a sudden splash and already an Indian strain(Sobyanin, Glikova). Sobyanin, 89% of those admitted to hospitals are said to have an Indian strain. Where does Zin's "happiness" come from ?! Was not, was not and AGAIN !!! Who is the veil, who is spread? Does anyone control the "process" - or HOW ?! bully First, the media and the Internet were allegedly in Volgograd, then information from Sobyanin. Now kind of a rebuttal, no - it's not an Indian strain. The question is "... was there a boy?! ..." And who will answer? request
          3. We have millions of migrants, so-called "officially" and without registration (illegal immigrants) .. They have long been monopolists in trade and trade, incl. in catering, public transport, housing and communal services, etc.. This is several times every day. At best, imitation (mask, ...). At the heart of people are young - the conclusion, more often the disease is asymptomatic, i.e. transferred to the workplace. Next, the distributor. Who is in control. A mask, at best, on a TV camera in public transport. About "illegal immigrants", it seems, should have been expelled from June 15th. But no, well, they did not have time to "are necessary" (to whom?), Earlier (upon arrival) they were UNSUFFICIENT (?), And then they decided, or maybe, as always ... will it blow? Already carried over to July. But will the unemployed or the prospectively unemployed Russians be carried over? Again, "effective! Managers for" diversity "in personnel ... drinks
          Organization-
          1. why so many things (vaccines). The first one comes running not the one who runs fast! And the one who knows WHERE to run! With vaccines - experience, a guarantee of safety. According to health, age and developer (manufacturer). Satellite V is probably a good vaccineнoh I would prefer "Covey-wack".
          2. It seems to be, it seems went to the people, sort of went to the subject and the city. Yes, they called on TV (360 and local TV). Habout 1,5 months (from May 13, 2021) - no, we don’t know when it will be. request I signed up on a piece of paper (full name, mob phone) with the doctor of the vaccination organizer, it turned out to be far NOT alone. On the Internet there are also enough SUCH - EXACTLY WISHING TO VACCINATE "Kovi-vac". feel
          Several times I went and ... I answered the "barkers" of the governor's command by e-mail, to the site of "State Services". Even on 18.06.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX there (GDP) wrote incl. on the listed issues hi m. We are waiting. But, in 2019 Mr .. sent a letter to the same - about the impossibility of receiving pensions for pensioners, whose pension goes to savings books. The card is convenient, but to whom (you cannot track the income and expenses "you cannot see", and even during the period of self-isolation, many people came up who wanted to "share with pennies. The problem was solved, but the right answer did not come. Fascinating fact. The office of the guarantor, and the implementation of the law on letters, complaints and proposals for ... whether. recourse
          3. Vaccine choice announced for those who decided to vaccinate... Not once VVP personally stated THIS, the final time at the forum in St. Petersburg. But, only "satellite" is available. My choice, I trust - "covid-vac" (developer, manufacturer, experience of a close influenza vaccine).
          3. An interesting point - when filling out papers for vaccination, is there aNketa vaccinated with a list AGAIN of all data from address, passport and further. Question, for a long time in the clinics of attachment (and these are all Russians) there is an email. data ball, email medical books, many are registered on the site "Gosuslugi". We are talking about digitalization from irons ... about one window and the fact that each government agency will decide everything without our paperwork, it will request everything by itself. laughing In reality - again quite likely, the collection of data to the fund for helping "resourceful" (in the future, in landfills or transferred from temporary storage) fraudsters. After entering these pieces of paper into the same base of the site "Gosuslug", where will they go? Will they keep forever or ...As with the base of the first covid survivors in Moscow, which has "merged" somewhere. The Mostva administration confirmed yes - the "human factor". This also makes you wonder.
          4. Vaccination site - it seems God himself ordered (org-no - attachment polyclinics or place of work records). Those. guaranteed (previously in the USSR) dignity of safety. Everything is there that others in the WORLD do not have. Polyclinics with attachment at the place of residence. For 1,5 years of the pandemic, it was possible, following the example of the Ministry of Emergencies, to segment those attached by age, disease, vaccine preference and reasons for refusal. To work out and organize vaccination in polyclinics according to the schedule, with previously agreed vaccines (having previously determined their need and place of delivery). Work with those unwilling to get vaccinated by identifying causes and solutions. good It is easier now to accuse the majority of Russians of being stupid and narrow-minded. Or maybe ask the organizers of the mess ?!
          5. Now they propose to ban those who are not vaccinated - travel by transport and the provision of medical assistance, incl. in hospitals. And if suddenly, who will answer? The reasons for not giving the vaccine to people are different, is anyone going to figure it out ?! No. As with workers - people rushed at least some vaccine, to be left without work in a pandemic ...But, registration (poir code), only after the 2nd vaccination, at least 2-3 weeks. And how, will they expose or will not be allowed into the transport.? Again the "hopeless wisdom" of the organizers bully .
          There are appeals one business woman accused the organizers. They don't even clean up fakes about vaccinations from TV and the media (the Internet). It is clear that the people have questions, the people are not stupid and educated. We need to work with him! Yes, urgently, as organized, and done. For example, she has vaccinated 5% of the staff, in the organization there are 200-300 people. What all!? The people in the unemployed and the SHVAH business?
          There are many questions. But it’s not the “Chapaevs” that are needed, they have already cut the “firewood” in a win-win situation, and the forelocks hurt, as usual for anyone! hi R.S. For such a "peremog" during the period of service in peacetime and for the great "spiritual" kindness of the commander and l / s - life ... of the team ... and a real "shooting" with rotten tomatoes at least once a day.
          R.S. Yes, soon x \ f "Kin-Dza-Dza" is there: ",,, The government lives on another planet, dear ...", "... - Excuse me, but chatlanes and patsaki are nationalities? - No. - Biological factor?
          - Not. - Faces from other planets? - Not. - And how do they differ from each other? - What are you, color blind, violinist? You can't tell the difference between green and orange, a tourist ... "Health to everyone and GOOD LUCK ... hi
          1. +6
            25 June 2021 19: 38
            Quote: boni592807
            why so many things (vaccines

            just money .. for patents, for insurance .... the main patent holder of the Hamale vaccine, the head of the Federal Service for Supervision of Consumer Rights Protection and Human Welfare .... In science, there should be scientists and not officials, because it is clear that an official cannot have time for research.
        8. 0
          26 June 2021 01: 52
          Nikolay Ivanov_5. The government gives guarantees that this is what is needed and takes full responsibility on itself. If something goes wrong, if everything is different, what the government undertakes to do. Will he go to heal at his own expense and bury at his own expense? Or simply to absolve ourselves of responsibility with words - we did everything we could and then we are not to blame. It has already happened. We can now cure any person, medicine is an advanced science. And if he died from improper treatment and a doctor with the exam, then everything is God's will. Vaccines were made by Rfizer. A bunch of women of about twenty different ages are sitting near the doctor's office. And everyone brags about their legs, among them those who have not made it to thirty and show their legs on which the veins swelled and parted in a cry like geese. There are already those who run up to other doctors, lift up their trousers and show their legs showing off their swollen veins and swollen ankles. Many young men walk around holding their hearts and joints. Like they give the country coal, and that's what all vaccines have. Not some have passed all the tests yet, but experimental people.
        9. +3
          26 June 2021 09: 20
          I think that the main reason for the negative attitude towards vaccination in Russia was the transformation of the Sputnik V vaccine into a political subject for national pride and competition with the West. The vaccine can no longer be trusted. In addition, the import of other vaccines into Russia is prohibited (especially M-RNA vaccines, which, by definition, are more effective than vector vaccines). The UK has developed and is producing the Oxford vaccine, but for some reason this does not prevent it from importing other vaccines that are more effective.
        10. +1
          26 June 2021 11: 51
          Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
          ... that public opinion about vaccination comes from people far from medicine.
          .
          Here are the opinions of experts.
          Nil Afonsky wrote: “People, having become so crafty in their souls, and will be belittled in body, will be 1 and 3/4 arshins * height, we say: five spans ** human body length (from 88,9 to 124,5 cm). By the deeds of their slyness, these people will surpass the demons and will be one spirit with the demons. Why will they become midgets?
          In Soviet times, they somehow showed African cannibals - pygmies. They were one meter tall with a cap. The presenter explained to the audience that cannibalism leads to disease and degeneration of the species. Many scientists also testified to this, especially before the era of the “bright future.
          Further. To increase the fat content of milk, the British fed cows with cow bone meal. Got rabies. What will people get if they get vaccinated with vaccines containing the line HEK 293 (Human Embryonic Kidney 293; Human embryonic kidney 293) and consume food with supplements containing this line? Will they be mad too? ALL vaccines contain this line and even Russian ones. Recovering and twisting, this is evidenced even by the developer of this vaccine, the director of the Federal State Budgetary Institution NITsEM named after N.F. Gamalei "A.L. Gintsburg A.L., when he says that, according to the Hayflick limit, all cells dividing in cell culture die after about 50 divisions. Therefore, all cells taken from the original material were absent in the HEK 293 line, and the statement about the connection of this line with abortive material is tantamount to the statement about its origin from the Neanderthal.
          And what if a person died, then his children and grandchildren ceased to be of his kind?
          Do not believe the lies spoken by people with positions.
          Further. In the US, McDonald's restaurant chain is accused of using fillers made from worm meat (meat made from worms). Now inspectors have allegedly found human meat and horse meat in the freezers of a McDonald's factory in Oklahoma City.
          The consumer does not even know that when buying Nescafe instant coffee, Nesquick cocoa, Maggie seasoning, baby food or other Nestle brand products, he is receiving a product with the addition of "human flesh". Oh yes, I almost forgot Pepsi and Coca - Cola, and many sweet gas. beverages.
          Good luck, vaccinated vaccine practitioners and consumers of Western treats! Your children and grandchildren will be XNUMX meter tall wicked people with a cap.
          Note. * 1 arshin = 71,12 cm.
          ** 1 inch = 17.78 cm.
        11. 0
          28 June 2021 12: 58
          Nikolay Ivanov_5. all are being driven for vaccinations. If it works it is good. But if this does not work, then why, again, they are forced to sign on a piece of paper that you do the vaccination voluntarily. That is, you run into the attack yourself and there is no defensive detachment behind. But if you have to sign on voluntariness, then the detachment is with a lot of possible applications in relation to the attacker of very big troubles.
      2. +1
        25 June 2021 11: 48
        Quote: PROXOR
        You dear, before you open your mouth, activate the connection with the brain.

        You are right as never))) closed your mouth? Have your brains turned on? or it doesn't work, well, you train.
        Quote: PROXOR
        In the USSR, all vaccinations began to be given to the population after 5-7 years of hospital tests. 5-7 years, and here and half a year piled.

        And now, a person with very low knowledge of the issue, we climb into Google and hammer into the search for the "outbreak of smallpox Moscow 1959" - and we read what happened then and how the catastrophe was averted. How long was the vaccine developed and how long it took millions of people to get vaccinated.
        Quote: PROXOR
        If you made it yourself - I congratulate you. You are a white laboratory mouse))))

        If you haven't done it, I congratulate you, write a will just in case. With the virus, no one has yet agreed on what to do with you - to strangle you or simply to overtemperature - it will be up to him to decide.
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        2. +11
          25 June 2021 12: 22
          that vaccine was developed long before the events in Moscow
          1. -10
            25 June 2021 13: 38
            Quote: datura23
            that vaccine was developed long before the events in Moscow

            Developed, yes, this is generally the first vaccine. The only question is that you can't make 10 doses on your knee and you can't pick it up from cows.
            1. +7
              25 June 2021 13: 58
              so after all, our claim to the vaccine is that the long-term consequences are unclear, but it was known about smallpox that it does not carry any special problems
        3. +9
          25 June 2021 12: 31
          If you haven't done it, I congratulate you, write a will just in case. With the virus, no one has yet agreed on what to do with you - to strangle you or simply to overtemperature - it will be up to him to decide.

          If you did it, then it will be the same thing in Google or where else it will take you into your head and read about infections after vaccination. It only reduces the likelihood of serious consequences - reduces, but does not exclude. To find out what percentage of people really had covid, you just need to carry out an analysis for antibodies and then, on the basis of this information, engage in the fight! And in order to check for loyalty, it is necessary to chop everyone with an equilibrium, and if someone does not want or cannot write as second-class people, and even better, burn them at the stake as a heretic!
          1. ANB
            +7
            25 June 2021 13: 06
            ... you just need to carry out an analysis for antibodies and then, on the basis of this information, engage in the fight!

            Yes, right now. Well this is what kind of money.
            In the invitro complex for 5 thousand passes. Type 2 analyzes are needed, one is not accurate. And the fence is paid.
            And they don't do state clinics, even in the military.
          2. -6
            25 June 2021 13: 47
            Quote: Horon
            and read about post-vaccination infections.

            Oh lord, you opened America to me! For those who are from the Moon, any medicine, medical procedure has the risk of complications. Vaccines are no exception. In all this is understandable to everyone, but only those who do not believe in free medicine))) Think you are a free person?))) Well, so soon you will be free))) from visiting institutions, work, medical institutions and other things. Free and independent, you wanted it)))
        4. -4
          25 June 2021 12: 53
          Nobody has agreed on the virus yet,

          I beg you - this is natural selection.
          The person with the strongest immunity survives. Our ancestors, for example, had immunity to the flu, everyone who did not have it died - this is natural selection.
          Now, the state is trying to create artificial selection, supporting people with weak immunity with the help of medicine, which is generally not bad. But, these people, with weak immunity (a man and a woman with weak immunity), give weaker offspring, who still have immunity. worse than their parents (to prevent this from happening, at least one parent with normal immunity is required), and who will need even more medical services to maintain life. And with each subsequent offspring, the number of medical services for such people will only increase (and the resources spent on this). As a result of such actions, over several generations, such people will need too much medical services to sustain life. Which the economy may not be able to pull (it's just a matter of time).
          When in countries with natural selection, people will need a minimum of medical services to maintain their lives and, most importantly, a minimum of resources spent on medicine.
          It would be better instead of vaccination, the authorities are concerned about the health of ordinary citizens - there is a fight against obesity among the population, the promotion of physical education (fitness)
          and most importantly - healthy food in stores, not a surrogate.
          This is the truth of life and there is no getting away from it, whether we like it or not.
          1. 0
            25 June 2021 13: 55
            I beg you - this is natural selection.
            The person with the strongest immunity survives. Our ancestors, for example, had immunity to the flu, everyone who did not have it died - this is natural selection.

            Well, so you - write an official statement that if something you refuse in advance to carry out resuscitation measures in relation to you, including the use of artificial lung ventilation. If you are so advocating for natural selection.
          2. -7
            25 June 2021 14: 01
            Quote: lucul
            But, these people, with weak immunity (a man and a woman with weak immunity), also give weaker offspring, whose immunity is even worse than that of their parents (to prevent this from happening, at least one parent with normal immunity is required), and who will need even more medical services to support life. And with each subsequent offspring, the number of medical services will only increase (and the resources spent on this). As a result of such actions, over several generations, such people will need too much medical services to sustain life. Which the economy may not be able to pull (it's just a matter of time).

            um ... are you Aloizych? have not yet reached the ruler to measure something there?
            As far as I understand, pathogenic microorganisms break through any non-specific immunity, you are not aware, and about the fact that the specific begins to work only in the case of a successfully transferred disease and can vary greatly in duration too.
            How do you propose to define people with weak immunity? by what criteria? propose to deny them help so that the strongest survive? Doesn't it seem to you that you smell?
            Quote: lucul
            It would be better, instead of vaccination, the authorities took care of the health of ordinary citizens - the fight there is against obesity among the population, the promotion of physical education (fitness)

            You can't force you to wear masks and handle your hands, you see, there is no law, but there is no law on the recommendation to everyone, there are still such videos being filmed as they competently bend those who demand to wear masks in transport or public places. You cannot be taken off the chair at least to do a warm-up in the morning, deaf and blind, no matter how much you warn about obesity and about smoking with alcohol - everywhere there is one answer - my body is what I want and I do. Vaughn above and wrote.
            Quote: lucul
            and most importantly - healthy food in stores, not a surrogate.

            Probably they force me to eat sweet, fatty, chips in kilograms, pour liters of beer and do not let me get up from the sofa from the TV.
            1. +1
              25 June 2021 14: 09
              um ... are you Aloizych? have not yet reached the ruler to measure something there?
              As far as I understand, pathogenic microorganisms break through any non-specific immunity, you are not aware, and about the fact that the specific begins to work only in the case of a successfully transferred disease and can vary greatly in duration too.

              You will not see trees in the forest.
              How do you propose to define people with weak immunity? by what criteria? propose to deny them help so that the strongest survive?

              In Europe, they have already considered a law according to which, with a further serious deterioration of the epidemiological situation from COVID-19, only the least sick should be provided with assistance.
              1. -8
                25 June 2021 14: 59
                Are you writing this from the Kommunarka red zone?
        5. +3
          25 June 2021 13: 00
          Quote: JD1979
          If you haven't done it, I congratulate you, write a will just in case.

          And if you did, write too.))))
        6. +3
          25 June 2021 13: 04
          Quote: JD1979
          And now, a person with very low knowledge of the issue, we climb into Google and hammer into the search for the "outbreak of smallpox Moscow 1959" - and we read what happened then and how the catastrophe was averted. How long was the vaccine developed and how long it took millions of people to get vaccinated.

          The first effective vaccine was created in 1796. "On September 18, 1918, People's Commissar of Health N. A. Semashko adopted the" Regulations on vaccination against smallpox "based on the scientific report of Gamaleya. And in April 1919 V. I. Lenin signed the corresponding decree. It was the first universal vaccination campaign in the history of mankind. In the early 30s, the USSR was the first territory in the world to declare the eradication of smallpox. "
          Smallpox was brought to Moscow on December 23, 1959. By January 15, 1960, 19 people had been diagnosed with smallpox in the disease stage. The last identified patient was registered on February 3, 1960.
          So how long did it take to develop a vaccine?
        7. +5
          25 June 2021 14: 08
          what happened then, and how the catastrophe was averted.
          And you yourself read something. Medicine was not optimized then, money was not spent on yachts. The perpetrators were punished, not rewarded.
          If you want like in the Union, then return the Soviet laws
        8. -6
          25 June 2021 14: 23
          "And now, a person with very low knowledge of the issue, we climb into Google and hammer in the search for the" outbreak of smallpox Moscow 1959 "- and we read what happened then and how the catastrophe was prevented. millions of people have been vaccinated. " Smallpox is not a smallpox covid a long time ago a vaccine was created and the disease was studied up and down, so that an example is absolutely incomparable with the current situation.
          If you haven't done it, I congratulate you, write a will just in case. With the virus, no one has yet agreed on what to do with you - to strangle or simply to temper - it will be up to him to decide. But they hit it right.
      3. +20
        25 June 2021 12: 18
        In the USSR, they did not get flu shots, as they considered it pointless. The virus manages to mutate before the vaccine passes all the tests, and now it is crammed every year as a panacea for the flu. I got this vaccine twice, and as a result, I had a weakened immunity for the next 6 months. How does a person who has been ill differ from a vaccinated person? Immunity of the wrong system? Covid belongs to the group of viruses based on RNA chains, to the same as the flu, but they are trying to prove to all of us that the vaccine made on the basis of last year's virus is better than the immunity obtained a little later. All of this in its effect resembles an inoculation of loyalty than the fight against the crown. Everything resembles a plot from the movie Equilibrium with daily vaccines and burning at the stake of the unvaccinated. But those who fight their throats for vaccinations for a long time have not noticed their contradictory statements and trash around vaccinations, and also completely ignore the laws of virology. Especially touching are the statements that as soon as everything is grafted, the covid will immediately disappear and they will stop hurting! It is difficult to imagine that a sane person with a higher education can reason this way, but alas, they do!
        1. +4
          25 June 2021 12: 39
          "And where did all the political scientists go ??? !!!! Virologists are all around !!" (C)
          Quote: Horon
          but they are trying to prove to all of us that the vaccine made on the basis of last year's virus is better than the immunity received
        2. +4
          25 June 2021 12: 45
          They will not notice contradictions. It is very difficult for a person to admit that they are wrong. And at the next stage, they will have a grudge for being injected, while others will not. And then anger. Further more pronounced aggression. And if the number of those who were pricked turns into the majority (those of Sobyanin's 60%), this majority will really hate the rest and "destroy" them on their own.
          1. +11
            25 June 2021 12: 59
            With such an attitude towards people, the authorities will force them to be vaccinated every three months, alas, this is a fact. I am only trying to reach out to those who think that as soon as everyone is vaccinated, they will immediately remove all restrictions and no one will get sick anymore. How great will be their disappointment! Long live the vaccine of loyalty - equili ..., ugh, the vaccine against covid19 (as well as 20,21,22,23, etc.)! laughing
            1. 0
              25 June 2021 13: 05
              //. I'm just trying to reach out to those who think that as soon as everyone is vaccinated, all restrictions will be lifted and no one else will get sick. How great will be their disappointment! /!
              Well actually yes. All restrictions have been removed from us. Someone is sick, of course, there is a danger of new strains. But the fact is, vaccination is really a temporary effective solution. Now children 12 years old are being vaccinated, they have the main outbreaks of the disease there.
              1. +4
                25 June 2021 13: 38
                Quote: Shahno
                Now 12 years old children are being vaccinated, they have the main outbreaks of the disease there.

                Children are generally not at risk; they tolerate Covid no more severely than seasonal flu. Why inject them with a drug that is unknown in terms of long-term effects?
                1. +1
                  25 June 2021 13: 53
                  A decision was made to vaccinate children from 12 years old ...
                  They simply create centers. As far as I understand, the new delta strain, and infect adults, and those in a mild form, but sick.
                2. +2
                  25 June 2021 14: 06
                  a plan to reduce the birth rate, remember?
        3. -9
          25 June 2021 14: 12
          Quote: Horon
          as well as completely ignore the laws of virology.

          Just wondering what these laws are))

          Quote: Horon
          Especially touching are the statements that as soon as everything is grafted, the covid will immediately disappear and they will stop hurting!

          just as touches the statements that vaccination is evil))) experts of the same level. They don't want to listen to real specialists.

          Quote: Horon
          But those who fight their throats for vaccinations have not noticed their contradictory statements and trash around vaccinations for a long time

          The trash begins not around vaccinations, but then when a bunch of adherents against vaccinations begins to fall off their feet en masse and clogs up all the free beds))) And someone has to die on the street or at home. After all, no one thinks about the fact that the bed fund is not rubber, all are individualists) How many videos there are already on the pipe about "thrown out of the hospital", will soon be even more.
          1. -2
            28 June 2021 15: 01
            Now, those who either sat on the remote control or were vaccinated (from those who are known to me) get to the hospital. Moreover, those who strictly followed all the requirements (isolation and masks) are now in a difficult shape.
        4. -1
          26 June 2021 08: 41
          Quote: Horon
          But those who fight their throats for vaccinations for a long time have not noticed their contradictory statements and trash around vaccinations, and also completely ignore the laws of virology.

          true!
        5. +1
          26 June 2021 11: 43
          In general, I agree with you, but categorically against the beginning of your speech: "In the USSR, they did not get flu shots ...". They did it, they did it. At least in preschool and school institutions for sure, I remember, and the flu shots were nasal and oral.
          1. -2
            28 June 2021 15: 12
            How much I studied, I do not remember that case that they would have been vaccinated against flu. At most, they could send the class to quarantine if there were too many cases. He often began to hear about influenza vaccinations after the 90s, in the second half, and he read negative reviews of old, still secular virologists about the advisability of these vaccines.
      4. -2
        25 June 2021 12: 39
        Clear. You cannot see the difference between laboratory equipment of the USSR times and modern ones. I had to work on ancient "like mammoth coprolites" Soviet laboratory equipment. The control of the results was mainly carried out organoleptically, in Russian, "by eye", hence the long terms of product development. Modern computerized laboratory complexes make it possible to multiply the speed of research using the instrumental control method. So don't be confused with solid blue.
        I had been ill with a covid, I was lying in a covid. Feelings are below average. Anti-vaccines, if you want to experience it yourself, the flag is in your hands. Do not forget only one thing, some covidla is severe and people have a "roof", but on the kidneys, liver, heart and vascular will get it without fail. It's just that anti-inoculants, especially stubborn ones, need to be taken to the Kovidnik on an excursion. It's "very fun" there.
        1. +6
          25 June 2021 14: 13
          I have been ill with covidloi
          Something familiar. Like I have a negative attitude to Putin. but I will vote for him
          1. -5
            25 June 2021 18: 01
            And here is Putin! True, I have never voted for him. I do not participate in the electoral show. When on your own "carcass" you try all the "charms" of the covidla, at least of medium weight, you will quickly forget about Putin and other political figures.
            1. +4
              25 June 2021 19: 16
              When on your own "carcass" you try all the "charms" of the covidla, at least of medium weight, you will quickly forget about Putin and other political figures.
              ABOUT! In two years I have tried a lot of things. First, the shopping center was demolished, where my wife and I rented a small space. None of the Moscow officials asked where people would go. And I won't wish anyone to start life from scratch at 57. A year later, after all these strains, I fell ill with covid. Six months later, a heart attack. But I wish no one harm. I'm just asking you to leave alone. I'm not an anti-vaccine. I don't want to be vaccinated.
              And Putin really has nothing to do with it, he is like an English queen, beyond suspicion.
              1. -1
                26 June 2021 07: 35
                How is your point of sale related to covidla? You have strange cause-and-effect relationships. It would be more logical to show displeasure with your prefect and mayor. As I understand it, all anti-inoculants have a "keen desire" to lie down naked, face down under a ventilator in pissed and dirty diapers. Want to try, try, your right. Lavrov is still right when he says such things: "Morons,". Do you think the government and doctors are kidding when they talk about the "charms" of covidli? They don't say much based on the rules of medical ethics. Unlike flu, covidla can go crazy due to cerebrovascular accident. We had four of them on the floor, we had to tie and inject sedatives. We had such a person in our ward.
                Academician Ginzburg is right, stop playing democracy, it's time to use power. You will be the first to start screaming if you allow patients with leprosy to walk freely through the streets. But what about their rights? Covidla's consequences are no better. You, anti-vaccines, are active distributors of infection in transport, public buildings and at work. Should I give you a prize for that? you are selfish, narcissistic.
                1. +3
                  26 June 2021 08: 27
                  How is your point of sale related to covidla?
                  you earned money for a computer, but it did not add to your mind. At least read from start to finish.
                  However, the words of your beloved Lavrov are directly related to you.
      5. -4
        25 June 2021 13: 00
        Proofs are about 5-7 years old or are these glitches of your diseased brain? this is about poliomyelitis "In 1958-1959, together with his wife and associate MK Voroshilova and other collaborators, he organized the world's first production and clinical trials of a live poliomyelitis vaccine (English) (LPV) made from attenuated Sabin strains. For these purposes, on the basis of the Institute of Poliomyelitis and Viral Encephalitis (IPVE), the Enterprise for the production of bacterial and viral preparations IPVE was created, which was also headed by Chumakov [4]. " it doesn't even smell for 5 years
      6. +2
        25 June 2021 13: 39
        Quote: PROXOR
        You dear, before you open your mouth, activate the connection with the brain.
        In the USSR, all vaccinations began to be given to the population after 5-7 years of hospital tests. 5-7 years, and here and half a year piled.
        If you made it yourself - I congratulate you. You are a white laboratory mouse))))

        I fully support!

        There is one more moment
        Indeed, why should a person who has formed immunity in time for himself have to go into isolation, lose a source of income and limit himself in moving around the country?

        And why is there no word in the article that immunity is formed not only after vaccination, but also after a previous illness? I was ill with covid more than 7 months ago, last week I passed an analysis for antibodies, there were more of them than many people after vaccinations, but, as it turned out, there is no definite threshold for the number of antibodies, and there is a time threshold for the disease - six months! How shoud I understand this? Such norms were clearly established not by doctors, but by officials! And why should I, a person with antibodies, go to get vaccinated, despite the fact that the vaccine will give me nothing but possible side effects? Does the government not see this incident? Maybe this is not herd immunity, but an attempt to promote a vaccine at any cost?
        1. +4
          25 June 2021 14: 15
          trying to promote a vaccine at any cost?
          Quite right, it remains to understand why they need it.
          1. +1
            25 June 2021 14: 30
            Quote: Gardamir
            trying to promote a vaccine at any cost?
            Quite right, it remains to understand why they need it.

            Apparently "investors" are "asking" very much!
          2. +2
            25 June 2021 22: 40
            "We must turn Russia into a desert inhabited by white blacks, to whom we will give such tyranny that the most terrible despots of the East have never dreamed of."
            Lev Trotsky
      7. -5
        25 June 2021 14: 38
        Funny, good luck fighting natural selection. And failures in the fight with the employee ...
      8. -2
        25 June 2021 15: 32
        Quote: PROXOR
        In the USSR, all vaccinations began to be given to the population after 5-7 years of hospital tests. 5-7 years, and here and half a year piled.

        not half a year, but almost two. In addition, times are passing, research methods are developing, the amount of money allocated for the coronavirus is off the charts, so it is not surprising that vaccines are effective, it is surprising that not absolutely, but it will remain so as long as among the scientists-patent holders, ignorant officials, meaning the head of consumer supervision - patent holder for the antikoid vaccine.
      9. -4
        25 June 2021 16: 07
        Quote: PROXOR
        You dear, before you open your mouth, activate the connection with the brain.
        In the USSR, all vaccinations began to be given to the population after 5-7 years of hospital tests. 5-7 years, and here and half a year piled.
        If you made it yourself - I congratulate you. You are a white laboratory mouse))))

        You are driving a snowstorm, Russia has some of the best virologists in the world and I trust them. You remember Ebola, and so many virologists from all over the world came to Africa and our virologists invented a vaccine (in a short time), which is considered the most effective. Here is an example of San Marino grafted onto our Sputnik by 90%, and since May, only one has contracted the corona, and this is the result. Because of people like you and with such poor thinking as yours, doctors in the red zone suffer and the population becomes infected and dies, who is lucky he got off easily and who is not
    2. +18
      25 June 2021 11: 21
      Generally, it is exclusive for the author. The most affected in the Great Patriotic War was the Soviet people, which included Jews. But you don't have to be more Jewish than the Jews themselves.
      By vaccination. There is reason to regret the destruction of the Union. Where are all these advocates of rights and democracy? A totalitarian march towards vaccination. Interestingly, people pushing to vaccinate for some reason are very aggressive.
      1. +13
        25 June 2021 12: 01
        Quote: Gardamir
        Interestingly, people pushing to vaccinate for some reason are very aggressive.

        As well as sectarians .. with fire and sword .. bring good to the masses.
        1. +1
          25 June 2021 19: 19
          Quote: Gardamir
          Interestingly, people pushing to vaccinate for some reason are very aggressive.

          An ordinary person, that is, the average person, is faced with a great many difficulties that he cannot handle. Therefore, he reacts to dangers and problems with aggression, depression, general anxiety, memory impairment, weakening of concentration, dullness of emotions, insomnia, daydreaming, bouts of rage, suicidal thoughts, and so on, the list is long. Is it possible to imagine the state of such a person for three or four years or more in a row? Yes, you can feel it, because many will be able to experience the whole complex of “great stress” that affects everything in a person, his every reaction, thought and nerve. And all this together is called frustration - a state of defeat that interferes with the achievement of certain goals.
          Of course, the human body tries to defend itself against frustration, because this is abnormal, and such attempts lead to different types of behavior. And one of these is regression, an appeal to the simplest, primitive behavioral models. A person who falls into a regressive state returns to childhood, divides the whole world into black and white, speaks several times less, often uses physical force to prove that he is right or get what he wants, there is a partial rejection of active behavior, long-term planning is denied, and thoughts about the future are simply disgusting.
          At the same time, everyone who does not look like such a person becomes enemies for him, and every non-standard situation that does not fit into the usual stereotypical framework causes aggression and anger. Such individuals huddle in flocks, become like animals, as a result, after five or six years they attract all the weak and have lost the will to live and turn into "animals"
      2. +17
        25 June 2021 12: 08
        Quote: Gardamir
        Interestingly, people pushing to vaccinate for some reason are very aggressive.

        For many years, a stratum of obedient-aggressive people have been brought up in the country. From the category - I did not read, I did not hear, I don’t understand a fig, but since the helmsman ordered, I condemn and am ready to bite you. The experience of the Third Reich was adopted. Yes
    3. -3
      25 June 2021 11: 22
      Quote: smaug78
      The USSR is not enough for anti-graft, and the shoals of today's Russia make themselves felt (((

      Mr. Beroev does not quite understand what he is comparing and with what.
      1. +10
        25 June 2021 11: 23
        And how do you assess the division into vaccinated and unvaccinated? Not letting them into public places is that?
        1. +9
          25 June 2021 11: 29
          Quote: PROXOR
          And how do you assess the division into vaccinated and unvaccinated? Not letting them into public places is that?

          In Israel, the court decided that your right to risk does not cancel the right of others to avoid it, so the court allowed at many places of work and in restaurants to refuse to provide services to those who are not vaccinated or do not have a document on the corona test in the last 72 hours. If you don't want to get vaccinated, go get checked regularly.
          1. +8
            25 June 2021 11: 35
            Here you go. Those. there is a choice. And here you are stupidly forbidden.
            There is one nuance with this vaccine. Even vaccinated people get sick.
            1. +4
              25 June 2021 11: 39
              Yes, they are sick, those who were in the forefront, but they get sick easily ... About half a year they did it, but what, Faizer, astrazeneca, other vaccines in America, Israel, Europe not in half a year? In China? In which it has already been made billionth vaccination?
              1. +3
                25 June 2021 11: 39
                So what?!. I have already been ill. And I will not prick into myself the incomprehensible.
                1. -14
                  25 June 2021 11: 47
                  Yes, do not if, for God's sake, only when you will suffocate on the ventilator, remember your thoughts
                  1. +18
                    25 June 2021 11: 50
                    READ CAREFULLY !!! I'M SICK !!! WITHOUT IVL !!!! My immunity had the strength to deal with this garbage on its own.
                    1. -9
                      25 June 2021 11: 58
                      Read carefully, you are lucky that obelletions are in a mild form, when you were ill? What antibody index have you checked now? If not, check it and then you can say that you will never get sick again
                      1. +2
                        25 June 2021 12: 08
                        It was 140 months ago. I was ill in November-December.
                      2. -5
                        25 June 2021 12: 11
                        Take time and check your antibodies
                      3. 0
                        25 June 2021 12: 33
                        I'll go in November. Just a year old blowjob.
                  2. +19
                    25 June 2021 11: 52
                    Why are you so aggressive!
                    At first they rejoiced at Plato, then that they raised the retirement age. Now I'm delighted with the vaccination.
                    1. 0
                      25 June 2021 12: 34
                      I was happy about Plato and the Pension Return ?! You are definitely confusing me.
                      1. +8
                        25 June 2021 12: 50
                        Quote: PROXOR
                        You are definitely confusing me.

                        He is not for you, but for Andrey VOV
                      2. +3
                        25 June 2021 13: 38
                        You confuse me for sure
                        When I am at the computer, as it is now, I am sure to quote the person to whom I am writing so that there is no confusion. But from a smartphone it is more difficult, so it happens like this. However, there are always arrows to track who communicates with whom.
                    2. 0
                      27 June 2021 02: 57
                      At first they rejoiced at Plato, then that they raised the retirement age.
                      This is called the Putin-Kiselevosalovyev masochism ...
                  3. +9
                    25 June 2021 12: 41
                    Yes, do not if, for God's sake, only when you will suffocate on the ventilator, remember your thoughts

                    The immunity of a person who has recovered is always higher than that of a vaccinated person, since the body fought with a REAL virus, and not its lightened form. Rather, the vaccinated will get sick more seriously, since the virus has already mutated for more than a year, and the vaccine is made on the basis of its primary form. Kashpirovsky and Chumak laugh out loud!
              2. -3
                25 June 2021 12: 34
                Read, here is an alternative version))
                https://vk.com/wall-115161362_249216
                1. 0
                  25 June 2021 15: 03
                  do not follow the link - it is piled up there
              3. -6
                25 June 2021 14: 35
                Yes, because in China society is organized and educated and it is not as stupid as our authorities said to get vaccinated, everyone goes and vaccinates and there is no anti-vaccine idiocy there.
            2. +9
              25 June 2021 12: 06
              Quote: PROXOR
              There is one nuance with this vaccine. Even vaccinated people get sick.

              There are more than one nuance here .. much more .. The vaccinated are ill, complications from vaccination, the consequences .. and most importantly, the virus mutates constantly .. So I was vaccinated against the flu twice in my life and for some reason it was after the vaccination, I was terribly ill .. decided abandon this venture. But I think that citizens should have a choice and citizens should decide for themselves whether they should be vaccinated or not. On a socially oriented state, like the USSR, you can rely and trust him .. but trust the capitalist .. it's ridiculous.
            3. -7
              25 June 2021 12: 17
              Basically, let's be honest, conditionally vaccinated people get sick. The price of the issue is about 3000 rubles. They go to statistics as if they were vaccinated, but in reality they only bought a certificate without receiving doses of any "Sputniks".
              In principle, whether or not to be vaccinated is a personal matter. You can understand those who do not believe in their effectiveness - there are a lot of examples in our country that do not add faith to official sources. Only personal observations in the current situation are convincing that more than 90% of recurrent diseases overtake the "conditionally vaccinated".
              1. +5
                25 June 2021 12: 42
                Quote: Ingenegr
                Basically, let's be honest, conditionally vaccinated people get sick.

                Do you have statistics? I think no.
                In addition, according to the developers, the vaccine does not protect against the virus, this is not its task. It softens the course of the disease, and reduces the likelihood of complications. Only. Accordingly, vaccinated people also get sick, and are also carriers.
                Widespread vaccination and discrimination against the unvaccinated is a global social experiment. It has a very distant relationship to virology and epidemiology.
              2. +2
                25 June 2021 13: 28
                Basically, let's be honest, conditionally vaccinated people get sick

                That is, you think that the governor of the Kaluga region was conditionally vaccinated? You are simply ridiculous in your argumentation!
                https://www.kp40.ru/news/society/82059/
                1. 0
                  25 June 2021 22: 23
                  Dear, you can't catch the difference between "basically" and "absolutely"?
            4. ANB
              +2
              25 June 2021 13: 29
              ... Here you go. Those. there is a choice. And here you are stupidly forbidden.

              In fact, we have the same choice. Either get vaccinated, or take PCR every 3 days.
          2. +10
            25 June 2021 12: 30
            In Israel, the court decided that your right to risk does not cancel the right of others to avoid it, so the court allowed at many places of work and in restaurants to refuse to provide services to those who are not vaccinated or do not have a document on the corona test in the last 72 hours. If you don't want to get vaccinated, go get checked regularly.

            Well, what is the result? ))))
            Israel is the state with the highest percentage of vaccinated citizens in the world, and now you have a massive epidemic on the Indian strain of COVID-19, despite being vaccinated - that is, vaccination is essentially useless. The virus will mutate every year and you will need a new vaccination every year. What will happen to your body in 30 years, as a result of annual vaccinations? ))))
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              1. +3
                25 June 2021 13: 06
                about Israel lie proofs in the studio, distributor of fakes.

                Will arrange?
                https://news.israelinfo.co.il/health/95738

                https://news.israelinfo.co.il/health/95676

                ))))
                1. -6
                  25 June 2021 13: 27
                  quite but everyone sees what he wants to see "110 new cases per day were recorded in Israel. Of these, 64 are schoolchildren, 14 people returned from abroad" 110 people throughout the country. fly thousands sick units "15 out of 22 infected abroad and diagnosed in the last two days were vaccinated, recently the Ministry of Health began to publish this information. The proportion of vaccinated among those infected during travel is 65%, but this rather confirms the effectiveness of vaccination, since almost exclusively vaccinated citizens travel now. Over the past two days, more than 14 thousand people have flown in from abroad, the proportion of those infected among them is very small - 0.15%. "
            2. 0
              25 June 2021 13: 34
              Quote: lucul

              Well, what is the result? ))))
              Israel is the state with the highest percentage of vaccinated citizens in the world, and now you have a massive epidemic on the Indian strain of COVID-19, despite being vaccinated - that is, vaccination is essentially useless. The virus will mutate every year and you will need a new vaccination every year. What will happen to your body in 30 years, as a result of annual vaccinations? ))))

              See the difference? Vaccination result.
              On the morning of Friday, June 25, the Israeli Ministry of Health released new data on the coronavirus epidemic. According to published official data, a total of +215 infected people were detected in the country per day. At the same time, 872 (+192) people are currently infected. (0) COVID-19 cases have died. +23 people recovered.
              Over the past day, 41331 tests have been carried out. In 0,6% of cases, coronavirus was detected.
              48 sick in hospitals (none in specially equipped rooms of hotels), the rest are sick at home. The condition of 26 patients is assessed by doctors as serious, 17 of them are in critical condition, 16 are connected to ventilators or ECMOs.
              The index of infectiousness (the index of the reproduction of the virus, showing how many people, on average, one infected person transmits it) is currently 2,43.




              1. +2
                25 June 2021 13: 36
                See the difference? Vaccination result.

                Here, in Belarus - without vaccination and quarantine - +600 infected per day)))
                1. 0
                  25 June 2021 13: 44
                  Quote: lucul
                  See the difference? Vaccination result.

                  Here, in Belarus - without vaccination and quarantine - +600 infected per day)))

                  Do you yourself believe it? Your excess mortality is off the charts, but shhh ...

                  Even if for 2020 a zero migration balance was recorded (which is unlikely, rather it was made positive again) and taking into account that the number of births in 2020 is about 6-7% less than in 2019 (that is, it was estimated at 82 thousand, in while in 2019 it was almost 88 thousand), then the excess mortality over the past year was at least 20 thousand people.
                  If in 2020 there was officially (!) A positive migration increase again (say, 10 thousand instead of 14 thousand in 2019), then the number of "excess" deaths in 2020 reached 30 thousand people.
                  The announced total population decline in 2020 (60,6 thousand) minus the "normal" natural population decline in 2019 (33 thousand) minus the difference in the number of births in 2019 and 2020 (about 6 thousand) minus the unknown indicator of migration loss (if a migration increase is recorded, then it is a plus!) for 2020 = approximately (!) corresponds to the real number of deaths from coronavirus in 2020.



                  1. +4
                    25 June 2021 14: 02
                    Do you yourself believe it? Your excess mortality is off the charts, but shhh ...

                    No need to broadcast nonsense from Belsat's oppo.
                    When I was sick with COVID-19 in clinics (December 2020), people on the street stood in line with a cough, but now it’s generally empty - I went in and looked on purpose more than once.
                    1. -3
                      25 June 2021 14: 23
                      Quote: lucul
                      Do you yourself believe it? Your excess mortality is off the charts, but shhh ...

                      No need to broadcast nonsense from Belsat's oppo.
                      When I was sick with COVID-19 in clinics (December 2020), people on the street stood in line with a cough, but now it’s generally empty - I went in and looked on purpose more than once.

                      Well yes. All Europeans get sick and die, but you have natural resilience. laughing
                      1. +2
                        25 June 2021 14: 25
                        Well yes. All Europeans get sick and die, but you have natural resilience.

                        Pffff ... everything shows the coffins - you can't hide them. When they begin to carry out a coffin from each entrance, and every day, then anyone will sit down for treason.
                        And if as now, then ...
                      2. -3
                        25 June 2021 14: 47
                        Quote: lucul
                        Well yes. All Europeans get sick and die, but you have natural resilience.

                        Pffff ... everything shows the coffins - you can't hide them. When they begin to carry out a coffin from each entrance, and every day, then anyone will sit down for treason.
                        And if as now, then ...

                        Well, to your health ...
          3. +2
            25 June 2021 13: 23
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            If you don't want to get vaccinated, go get checked regularly.
            This is true, as is the analogy to the law that the freedom of my fist ends where the neighbor's nose begins.

            There is openly asocial, selfish behavior, and such people should not be a threat to society. It is hardly correct to compare COVID with the flu, from which I personally have never been vaccinated, but what has affected my family and friends now is more dangerous than seasonal flu.

            Yes, with our vaccines (and not only ours) there is a lot of muddy and hasty. Nevertheless, the same "Sputnik V" has already been approved in more than 60 countries. In Brazil, the local company União Química established its own production of Sputnik V under license and applied for registration. Indian Dr. Reddy's, and the Indians have also conducted their own clinical research, and are also setting up the largest production of Sputnik in the world.

            According to Sputnik V, high efficiency is declared, the number of new cases of COVID in San Marino dropped to zero, despite the fact that Sputnik was vaccinated there for 80% of the population. Yes, there are side effects, but for some, eating strawberries can cause a lethal allergic reaction. Probably, it is necessary to compare the quarantines with the plague ones, and the measures should be tough.

            Also, it is very interesting who the author of the development of COVID is, I cannot believe in its "natural" appearance. If the United States is directly involved in this, then this is an international crime like the use of bacteriological weapons. Moreover, if the first wave is followed by "combat" strains of the virus with "zombielands" around the world. Naturally, the developer must have the best vaccine, his own antidote. In this case, at a minimum, all development laboratories should be destroyed around Russia.
        2. +12
          25 June 2021 11: 39
          This is segregation in its purest form, which the Kremlin maintains through the mouth of its press secretary. And also on June 22 by the way.
          MOSCOW, June 22. / TASS /. Citizens without covid immunity will pose a threat to those around them, and some discrimination in this regard is inevitable. The press secretary of the head of the Russian state Dmitry Peskov said this to journalists on Tuesday, commenting on statements about "discrimination against the unvaccinated."

          Something no condemning articles on this matter came out.
          1. +13
            25 June 2021 13: 22
            So Peskov himself is not vaccinated, according to him, let him leave his post after all, a public person, always with people.
        3. +6
          25 June 2021 20: 55
          and also, voting should be banned, so that they would not dare to pose a danger for the true patriots of the country, and in general, they would not get underfoot in such an important matter and would not worsen the statistics
      2. -12
        25 June 2021 11: 28
        Mr. Beroev decided to increase his status and attention to his personality, exploiting the theme of the Holocaust .. Sometimes it is better to chew.
      3. +9
        25 June 2021 12: 46
        He just understands that less. And those who shout in response that he insulted the Jews with his act of short-sighted populists.
      4. -2
        25 June 2021 13: 21
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: smaug78
        The USSR is not enough for anti-graft, and the shoals of today's Russia make themselves felt (((

        Mr. Beroev does not quite understand what he is comparing and with what.

        Moreover, we have banned the yellow Star of David stripes by law
    4. -8
      25 June 2021 11: 22
      This is Beroev's cheap hype. By the way, our employers in the Kuban are starting to tighten the screws on vaccination. In one office, they send anti-vaccinators on unpaid leave, in another they completely vaccinate. Both organizations work in agriculture and product processing. I don’t campaign for anyone, but I personally took root back in March.
    5. +1
      25 June 2021 11: 25
      As correctly noted, there are many Kosyakovs from the TOP and this, alas, alas, does not unite our society ... so it is more convenient for them to rule.
      This has been the case at all times, when the government is for itself, and the people for it are only an instrument to achieve their goals, prosperity.
    6. +10
      25 June 2021 12: 00
      Quote: smaug78
      The USSR is not enough for anti-graft, and the shoals of today's Russia make themselves felt (((

      The USSR was a welfare state, where the protection of citizens was the highest priority ... which was confirmed by demography .. Now only business and comparison with the USSR are not appropriate. Because of this, many citizens who have fully felt the "care" of the state ... (pension reform and other anti-popular actions), to put it mildly, doubt the actions that the government is so actively imposing ..
    7. +6
      25 June 2021 12: 13
      For example, I got vaccinated in February.
      I did not experience any health problems, except for a rise in temperature for a day after the second vaccination.

      But in 2010 I was vaccinated against yellow fever before a business trip to Africa ... For three months I felt weak and sore.
      Incomparably simple, from covid as from the flu - I get vaccinated, and no problem.

      And, most importantly, I was instilled "from fear" as from obsessive anxiety! Prior to that, he followed all the measures very diligently. Now it is quite formal ... However, I practiced disinfecting my hands after the subway and other public places before, I think that antiseptics should stay with us.
      In his rare descents in the metro, and to the covid I wanted to wear a mask. When people around were coughing, it really bothered me (in the life of a driver of a personal car).

      And my relatives were vaccinated. Only my mother did not have time, she went to the hospital with this infection. Pneumonia was found at an early stage, cured! So everyone chooses their own destiny!
      1. +4
        25 June 2021 15: 06
        here it is the Truth! fear vaccine
    8. +6
      25 June 2021 17: 42
      The USSR was an advanced country in science, so there was trust! + there was a competent propaganda of vaccinations!
      And where does Russia come from?
      At first for a decade and a half, REN-TV broadcasts various programs about reptilians, on other channels (and in this publication, for example, too) they carry nonsense in the spirit of conspiracy theories.
      Vaccines from the USA on central TV (!) Through Mikhalkov are called the way to chipping the population.
      And at the same time, modern Russia, a rather backward country in the scientific sense, which not only has not shown itself in new fields of science, but has squandered old achievements (for example, space), is forever reorganizing its science and education, is the first in the world to announce a vaccine. And officials who mostly lie and steal, actors who cannot normally play in films, and athletes, whose achievements are heard less and less, are convincing the population to get vaccinated!
      And then they wonder why people do not trust domestic vaccines! It is strange how one can not trust these respected people and achievements of the country.
      And in addition, they want to force everyone to vaccinate in an orderly manner, violating all human rights, without even trying to conduct a normal campaign on this score!

      ZY I myself was grafted.
      1. +1
        25 June 2021 19: 43
        A society of consumers, balabols and egoists, in which most people do not care who sits there at the top and where they are leading the country. Is the Internet turned off? Is your favorite online game working? TV series zombie included? Do you have beach bags and vodka in stores? Is there a freedom of speech? So everything is fine, you can graft on and go to work for someone else's uncle further, listen to sweet speeches on TV, immerse yourself in fictional virtual worlds where you are the most super elf, a Japanese shinobi, a soldier of fortune or a cool tanker who knocks down enemies in batches and upgrades the battle car, slurps vodka with moonshine, burns through life in clubs, injects and sniffs. Isn't this happiness? The most that neither is the present. Almost paradise. Poor, of course, but there was no other. After all, dreams of space, universal equality and social justice were exchanged for colored candy wrappers, and they cannot take up a real cause, because the strength in the hearts is no longer left, and most importantly, the idea for which it would be worth fighting has been lost.
    9. 0
      27 June 2021 12: 28
      Are you ready to die from the side of the vaccine? Me not. I may not get sick or move on my legs like many of my friends, but two people whom I know very well suffered a stroke 6-7 weeks after the second vaccine, the age of one 45 second 63. Probably this is a coincidence? You will say. And I'm too old to believe in coincidences.
    10. 0
      28 June 2021 20: 56
      smaug78. The matter is of course voluntary, but in the USSR it was called voluntary-compulsory. It is interesting that the vaccinated must sign a document that he voluntarily agrees to be vaccinated and in which case he will not have any claims to the state, or to anyone there. If he is vaccinated and still embeds the oak, then he will have no complaints. Remember this from the old stories about the life of Russia - the dead do not shame and have no claims. If everything is fine, why sign the paper, because this is a legal document with which the perpetrators can disown everything. If there is no such paper, then they will be judged as the Hitlerites were tried. And the guilty will say we did not force him, he himself is the signature.
    11. 0
      1 July 2021 21: 30
      The USSR, unlike the SS, was responsible for what people were injected.
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    1. +6
      25 June 2021 11: 21
      Another. Firstly, the report is on you for expressing. And secondly: I agree with him 100%. The segregation of vaccinated and unvaccinated is exactly the same as Jews and non-Jews, whites and blacks. Do you want to inject with everything without hitting your right, but forbid me to go somewhere, despite the fact that I pay taxes and a law-abiding citizen, excuse me, move over.
      1. -14
        25 June 2021 11: 26
        Let's not move. Don't even dream.
        1. +4
          25 June 2021 11: 30
          Move over. You won't choke. I got vaccinated - now stay at home for 3 weeks because you are a carrier of the virus.
          1. -14
            25 June 2021 11: 35
            You will not get it. And don't be rude. Sit by yourself and jitter. Are your prospects not bright or an obscurantist went to the shaman?
            1. +3
              25 June 2021 11: 37
              I was sick. I have nothing to fear. My immunity has classified the virus for itself and all its mutations will be destroyed.
              And only you are rude here.
              1. -8
                25 June 2021 11: 42
                Likewise. Therefore, for vaccination. There is no desire that others would either go through this, or leave as my roommates.
            2. +5
              25 June 2021 12: 39
              I remembered an anecdote from Soviet times. The law enforcement agencies decided to conduct an analysis in which units are more bl ... cheating on their wives. Summed up and found out that the 1st place of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, 2nd place of the KGB, and 3rd place of the SA. During the analysis in the SA, the colonel from the political department gets up and says, comrades, this is what we are doing. What are we discussing here! This is where we got to if we are doing this. I've been living with my wife for 35 years and have never cheated on her. And here is a replica from the audience - because of such old people, we are only in third place. I think that in the fight against cavid we have the same.
          2. +1
            25 June 2021 11: 40
            Well, you darkness .... well, at least they returned to the topic ... elementary, they were vaccinated against smallpox, that a person walks infect everyone with smallpox?
          3. +3
            25 June 2021 12: 33
            Quote: PROXOR
            Move over. You won't choke. I got vaccinated - now stay at home for 3 weeks because you are a carrier of the virus.

            A person with a very low level of education in medicine, google: what is a vector vaccine, and do not write nonsense.
            1. -6
              25 June 2021 13: 07
              Read the difference between antibodies.
              1. 0
                25 June 2021 13: 23
                Quote: PROXOR
                Read the difference between antibodies.

                Come on, have you learned a new word, or do you have something on this topic? It's just that it just became interesting to me that since yesterday it suddenly changed dramatically in antibodies)), and then suddenly they were driving me nonsense into microbiology and immunology, but I had to ask specialists here)))
                1. 0
                  26 June 2021 00: 23
                  Quote: JD1979
                  It just became interesting to me that since yesterday it suddenly changed sharply in antibodies)),
                  The satellite is a harmless adenovirus with a piece of covid. As a result of vaccination, you mainly develop immunity to the adenovirus. To increase the effectiveness of the vaccine, you are injected with the second component with a different adenovirus and the same piece of covid. How much your body will produce antibodies to this piece of covid is a question.
          4. +1
            25 June 2021 12: 55
            Quote: PROXOR
            I got vaccinated - now stay at home for 3 weeks because you are a carrier of the virus.

            By the way, have you ever thought that vaccination during an epidemic is by no means a panacea, but exactly the opposite?
            1. +1
              25 June 2021 13: 05
              You are not writing this to me. And to the adherents of vaccinations.
              1. +6
                25 June 2021 13: 30
                It is useless for them, they will stand up for any vycher of power. That is, the pension reform, voting on stumps, for raising taxes, for the export of resources and the contribution of funds from their sale to the economies of the countries of potential opponents. request
                1. +3
                  25 June 2021 20: 04
                  genetically modified foods, plunder of the subsoil, the creation of a supranational layer of oligarchs, complete degradation and desocialization of the population, destruction of the education and medical system, complete criminalization of society ... PROVEN methods: soldering, corruption of young people, drug addiction, direct destruction under the guise of medical care, inciting national conflicts and, accordingly, local wars. And "creeping" - the introduction and education of traitors within the country itself. First, slander the real heroes, then make them think of them only from the bad side, and then put forward the renegades as an example, make them imitate the garbage and garbage of the race and eventually destroy themselves ...
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    2. +8
      25 June 2021 17: 15
      If I were Jews, I would be indignant
      I am Russian, my father was at war. And I am very indignant that they only talk about Jews. While the Soviet Union suffered in the first place.
      1. 0
        25 June 2021 21: 45
        Quote: Gardamir
        And I am very indignant that they only talk about Jews.

        It's time for the Jews to go to Israel, then they will stop talking about them.
  3. +12
    25 June 2021 11: 17
    This is covid dissidence - the real level of trust in the authorities. Our people forgive a lot for the chosen ones, but when the chosen ones want to literally "get under the skin" ...
    And the authorities, before introducing compulsory vaccination, should first create a stock of vaccinations, otherwise there is information that they are running out in large cities and are waiting for supplies.
    1. -8
      25 June 2021 11: 19
      Quote: GRIGORIY76
      This is covid dissidence - the real level of trust in the authorities.

      this is a real level of idiotism and nothing more
      1. +6
        25 June 2021 11: 59
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        this is a real level of idiotism and nothing more


        Why, then, are all those who have spread by Sputnik forced to sign a declaration waiver of claims against manufacturers and doctors in case of disability / death?
        Let it be so then - vaccination is compulsory - in case of disability from Sputnik, let the state pay a life pension. At death - compensation to loved ones.
        1. -5
          25 June 2021 12: 45
          Quote: geroy_333
          in case of disability from Sputnik, let the state pay a life pension

          And you do not know that the disability pension is paid anyway? Yes, small, but paid!
        2. +1
          25 June 2021 13: 37
          Quote: geroy_333
          Is the satellite forced to sign a declaration waiver of claims against manufacturers and doctors in case of disability / death?

          do not write nonsense, or give a screen gle you signed it
          1. -2
            25 June 2021 16: 49
            Poor paid aHents pulled up. laughing Such nonsense has not yet been voiced. Looks like a novelty. laughing
        3. 0
          27 June 2021 08: 58
          Quote: geroy_333
          Why, then, all those who have spread by Sputnik are forced to sign a declaration of waiver of claims ...

          Questions are asked, let's see what they answer and if they answer at all
    2. -1
      25 June 2021 11: 41
      Interruptions occurred in large cities due to a sharp surge in those wishing to be vaccinated, in my city there are no problems
    3. +1
      25 June 2021 11: 54
      In Nizhny Novgorod, a really acute deficit was announced, but no vaccines were prepared.
    4. +19
      25 June 2021 12: 15
      Quote: GRIGORIY76
      This is covid dissidence - the real level of trust in the authorities.

      And what does trust in the authorities have to do with it? In our country there is quite a certain legislation. in case of natural disasters. Including epidemics. State of Emergency Law Enacted? Not. So what is the conversation about then? There is no epidemic in the country. And even more so a pandemic. And there are a bunch of bureaucrats, governors, ministers and other perebnadzorovtsy and guarantors, blatantly trampling on the constitution. Criminals, in general, when viewed from the point of view of the laws of the Russian Federation. Want to talk about mandatory vaccinations? To begin with, officially recognize the epidemic in the country, enter a state of emergency, and only then forcefully drive it. Don't want to introduce an emergency regime and be responsible for the lives of citizens? Then forget about coercion. Everything is as simple as two and two, actually.
      1. -8
        25 June 2021 14: 37
        The emergency mode implies large economic losses in the procession - the leadership will not go for this last lockdown was enough.
        1. +14
          25 June 2021 15: 14
          Quote: Vadim237
          The emergency mode implies great economic losses in the procession

          The economy has already suffered orders of magnitude greater losses from the fight against the coronavirus than from the coronavirus itself. If actually on hospitals and doctors, at the end of July 2020, less than 200 billion was spent, then the full package of "anti-crisis measures" Mishustik announced as 5 trillion. So it comes down? 1 ruble for the coronavirus, and 24 for all the garbage sucked out of the bureaucrats' finger, and for eliminating the consequences of their violent activity. And even more simply ... If our wise and caring, but unfortunately absolutely insane bureaucrats did nothing at all, and simply paid the costs of medicine ... Then even with an increase in the incidence of at least 2 times, at least 3, at least 5 .... The economy would be much better than with their active concern for the economy. Alas and ah. Our ministers and governors are from the category of those who do not harm only in one case. If it does absolutely nothing. Yes
    5. -4
      25 June 2021 16: 51
      winked Looks like not a lot of these dissidents, since vaccinations "end and wait for deliveries."
      1. -1
        25 June 2021 22: 49
        "It looks like not a lot of these dissidents, since vaccinations" end and wait for deliveries. "
        just the vaccine was sold in san marino laughing
  4. -8
    25 June 2021 11: 19
    do not want to be grafted forward into the "leprasorium" and at your own expense
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      1. -14
        25 June 2021 11: 29
        Those close to me have no such desire, and neither do these cavemen. But God is not a fraer. Let's take a look.
      2. -3
        25 June 2021 11: 30
        The report is on you. Threat to lives.
        1. -6
          25 June 2021 11: 42
          Have we got a snitch?
          1. -5
            25 June 2021 11: 58
            Judging by his posts - young, poorly educated and easily inspired.
          2. -2
            25 June 2021 12: 17
            Have us got the urka?
            1. -1
              25 June 2021 12: 22
              Who does your comment refer to? And what about the urk?
              1. -4
                25 June 2021 12: 23
                what about your informer?
        2. -3
          25 June 2021 13: 09
          and what country are you from to the court on the construction of the phrase you are not rus
          1. -2
            25 June 2021 14: 20
            re-read your phrase or laziness? Russian Tatar I.
            1. 0
              27 June 2021 08: 37
              apparently not the one, wrote this to Prokhor about nerus. "report" is so in Russian, you come straight to the store and "give me a report book" or "yes, I will report on you." Prokhor is not even a skakuas from a zhmerinka, but an English-speaking zaslanet
        3. -2
          25 June 2021 13: 34
          it is you refusing vaccinations that threaten my life and the lives of my loved ones
          1. -1
            25 June 2021 18: 14
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            it is you refusing vaccinations that threaten my life and the lives of my loved ones


            Where is the connection? just wondering. It does not matter whether a person is vaccinated, or not, he in any case becomes a carrier of the virus .... because vaccinated, in the same way, can convey the virus to your loved ones ... I see no logic.
            1. +1
              25 June 2021 19: 00
              Several hypothetical situations:

              1 situation. An unvaccinated person fell ill with covid, he is a carrier of the virus ... can infect both other unvaccinated and vaccinated who can get sick (in a mild form ... I wonder if the vaccinated are ill in moderate and severe form? Sorry there is no adequate statistics).

              2 situation. A vaccinated person fell ill with covid (not from vaccination, but caught this infection somewhere on the street), he is sick in some form ... a carrier of the virus during this period? definitely, can he infect the unvaccinated and vaccinated? the first is definitely, the second is also possible .... i.e. is obtained by carriers of the virus (from the moment of infection to complete recovery / immunity) are both groups.

              The only plus of the vaccinated is that after vaccination they develop immunity and the disease can pass in a mild form if they pick it up somewhere. A separate topic is the body's response to vaccination, and the long-term consequences of such an effect on the body. Is that correct?

              PS I myself have not vaccinated yet .... I think about it. But the debate here in the comments is serious, the aggression of the vaccinated is not clear, either people are mistaken that the vaccinated cannot be carriers of the disease, or they care about the health of the unvaccinated ...
              1. -2
                25 June 2021 20: 28
                Quote: Aleksandr21
                either people are mistaken that the vaccinated cannot be carriers of the disease, or so they care about the health of the unvaccinated ...

                you think about those who have not received adequate treatment for a whole year in connection with the general situation, I'm not talking about the problems of people associated with the economic situation
            2. 0
              25 June 2021 20: 26
              Quote: Aleksandr21
              Where is the connection? just wondering.

              the connection is at least in the fact that you create a general background in which all the resources of medicine (not all, of course, but a huge amount) are spent on the treatment of this infection
      3. -3
        25 June 2021 12: 24
        again I am convinced that "every g .. but ends with O"
        1. -1
          25 June 2021 12: 30
          And why is he like a snotty little boy running to complain? He doesn’t like something, give arguments, a factual basis, refute the opponent’s theses ... no, we will write a complaint, do not paint this man
          1. -1
            25 June 2021 14: 22
            do you think that calling a man a snitch paints a man? This Vasilenko insults right and left - he is not a man, but a hysterical woman. Throw ka and I complain about him.
            1. 0
              25 June 2021 20: 30
              For a start, learn to write on your own behalf, you are a MAN, well, write such and such Vasilenko I don’t consider you a man
              or for this "peasant" courage is enough only to offend anonymously
              By the way, how did I insult you for example ?!
    2. +4
      25 June 2021 11: 25
      Oh how. Why are you vaccinated so afraid of people without vaccines. You are now tasteless for the virus.
      1. 0
        25 June 2021 11: 55
        Maybe because it is (like everything else in the world) statistics? Reduces risk, but does not eliminate it at all. And I don't want to specifically contact refuseniks
        I am vaccinated, but the risk with constant contact with people like you is all the same, albeit scanty and without serious side effects. But, as far as I understand, the vaccinated at the same time can be a peddler at the beginning of infection from people like you. Why do I need it? because of the usual stupidity of a person to put himself at risk, albeit minimal.?
      2. -1
        25 June 2021 13: 36
        you first study the topic, and only after you will write nonsense, vaccination does not give 100 percent protection against the virus
    3. -4
      25 June 2021 22: 51
      "you do not want to be grafted forward into the" leprasorium "and at your own expense"
      cheaper to send you there - you are less
      1. -1
        26 June 2021 07: 24
        when you get banged in the ass do not shout
  5. +16
    25 June 2021 11: 19
    Don't you get it? The point is not that we are dense obscurantists who deny all vaccines in general - this is what distinguishes us from anti-vaccines, ignorant barbarians. And only that we are injected with an incomprehensible slurry, ridiculed in the Lancet. Supnik will be quoted in Europe, then we'll talk. In addition, even if we have made up our minds, we are not given a choice and they persistently inject this disgusting Soupnik. This also includes the ban on Western vaccines, which are humanly tested and recognized by the Lancet. It is also important that even the presence of a certificate does not give anything (or rather, it does not restore the seized rights) - you still wear the damned rag. Forgery is still widespread, when, right before the injection, they are ordered to sign a piece of paper with a disclaimer of responsibility - in which case the person will be alone with the consequences. Well, and most importantly - state coercion, and a completely Jesuit interpretation of the concept of voluntariness - did you hear how Peskov said? Discontent with other unpopular measures is also layered here - people remember both the pension reform and the amendments. All together quite naturally causes resistance. And people regard non-participation in this stinging hysteria as a form of passive civil protest. That is, there is conscientiousness, solidarity and readiness to fight for their rights. I approve of such citizens.
    1. -9
      25 June 2021 11: 25
      Quote: Basarev
      with a disclaimer - in which case the person will be alone with the consequences.

      not tired of lying?
      Quote: Basarev
      Well, and most importantly - state coercion, and a completely Jesuit interpretation of the concept of voluntariness - did you hear how Peskov said?

      heard and said correctly, but let's abolish medical books altogether, this is compulsion and let tuberculosis patients work in kindergarten canteens
      1. +1
        25 June 2021 22: 55
        "let's abolish the medical book altogether, this is compulsion and"
        you can not offer anything smarter? and about tuberculosis has long been forgotten. virus forever !!
        1. -1
          26 June 2021 07: 23
          Quote: aglet
          and about tuberculosis has long been forgotten. virus forever !!

          what do you mean? !!!! and I think why in the field of tuba a dispensary and a boarding school for tuberculosis
    2. -1
      25 June 2021 11: 27
      GLORY TO GOD the first NORMAL, ADEQUATE person. Otherwise, vaccinators behave like the LGBT minority in the west.
      1. +2
        25 June 2021 12: 02
        What are your criteria for NORMALITY and ADEQUACY? You are a very curious person
      2. -1
        25 June 2021 13: 38
        activist, let's cancel the medical books and send your children to the kindergarten with a tuberculosis teacher
    3. +2
      25 June 2021 11: 44
      When European vaccines were tested as they should? What, more than a year like a satellite? Cite a quote from the lancet magazine, where the vaccine is ridiculed? Officially in Europe, yes, they did not recognize it, but this is the policy and money of huge form giants, but in the same Germany at the local level, please buy , and foreigners who are vaccinated with us from the certificate is recognized there
    4. +6
      25 June 2021 12: 00
      I understand that you have not read this article in the Lancet ??
      1- The satellite was the first vaccine that passed all the stages (there are not 3 but 4 of them, WHO statement from February if I am not mistaken)
      2- The statistics in favor of the satellite are extremely convincing (we do not believe in Russia, but for example, Argentina, Hungary and ANY country where the satellite was used) in comparison with ANY vaccine.
      There is a fact. Scientific. Reasonable. Proven already by many independently. But you rested your horn and write nonsense.
      And now, where in the Lancet did they make fun of this muck? let's talk facts.
      1. +4
        25 June 2021 13: 02
        Quote: A009
        The satellite was the first vaccine that passed all the stages (there are not 3 but 4, WHO statement from February if I am not mistaken

        The third stage ended in May. Conda finished fourth? belay
        And then there is the fact that changes have been made to the already published trial protocol, which also does not add credibility to the vaccine.
        1. -2
          25 June 2021 14: 18
          https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/draft-landscape-of-covid-19-candidate-vaccines
          These are all the world's vaccines. Stages, value of indicators, etc. (file for download on the page)
          https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/covid-19-vaccine-race#phases
          Everywhere the last update on Russian vaccines is dated either February 2 or January in general. At the same time, the 3rd phase of the satellite has been passed everywhere.
          Taking into account the nitpicking (you cannot call it otherwise, since it comes to insanity, read the conclusions, but nowhere is it said that the vaccine is bad, on the contrary!) In particular to the satellite, the vaccine is recognized everywhere and by all the best (well, perhaps modernity is better, but here the probability of a too biased approach Or maybe she really is better.
          1. +3
            25 June 2021 18: 17
            Quote: A009
            Everywhere the last update on Russian vaccines is dated either February 2 or January in general. At the same time, the 3rd phase of the satellite has been passed everywhere.

            But what about the words of Gunzburg in February, saying that the third stage of the test will be completed in May? belay
            Look, don't you find it strange that less than a year and a half has passed since the start of work on the vaccine and the end of the trials?
            1. +1
              25 June 2021 18: 34
              Under these conditions, no.
              The Russian school of virology, as much as many would not like, is one of the best in the world and is recognized as such (for example, the very Novosibirsk vector developed the vaccine against Ebola and it is used by WHO, so the deadlines were also very tight)
              I do not know what protocols for emergency use in a pandemic at WHO, but I am sure that the approbation period is clearly less than normal. And so for all vaccines !! and not only in Russia.
              Medicines have been tested and withdrawn for decades. But when there is such a force majeure, everything is different. People understand what I'm doing. I am not a virologist or even a microbiologist. But I understand the principles of the scientific approach. And I even read about the schematic diagrams of vaccine production (there are 4 of them in this case)
              And therefore, people are never virologists, talking about viruses and vaccines is absurd. there is scientific data. There are statistics. There are scientific findings. Point. Everything else is emotions, and as a rule, very detrimental to health. I won't get into the cockpit of the airplane. I am not a pilot and I will not tell him how to fly an airplane. He studied for this. Me not. If doctors say to be vaccinated (and that's exactly what they say) I will not argue. I have some knowledge base and a rational approach and mindset to assess the risk of vaccination and the risk of infection. These are not comparable numbers at all! (I saw something around 1 in 1000000 somewhere, but that seems to be very conservative)
              But the grandmothers at my house (at least one for sure) disagree with me.
    5. -6
      25 June 2021 12: 31
      Supnik will be listed in Europe

      What is the problem? Suitcase, train station, Europe! Forward and with a song.
    6. +5
      25 June 2021 12: 34
      “Headache and fever. No deaths. ”- Argentina Tests Sputnik V Vaccine The study involved 2,8 million people.

      https://doctorpiter.ru/articles/663630/
    7. +7
      25 June 2021 12: 37
      Excuse me - and the bourgeois vaccines, they - when did they manage to go through all the stages you required? And what - Western companies are taking responsibility for the side effects? What is it all of a sudden? On the contrary, they force all governments to sign waiver of prosecution, otherwise - shish you, not a vaccine. Satellite - well, no different from the rest. But you have claims - for some reason, only to him.
      1. +3
        25 June 2021 18: 20
        Quote: paul3390
        But you have claims - for some reason, only to him.

        Personally, I have a question for all vaccines. But I have absolutely no confidence in the statistics about the side effect.
      2. 0
        26 June 2021 00: 31
        Quote: paul3390
        But you have claims - for some reason, only to him.
        And what, someone in our country is forced to inject with Pfizer? What, no? Well then, what are the claims to him?
    8. +2
      25 June 2021 13: 13
      proof that the lancet is ridiculed otherwise you are a fake-hitter
    9. +1
      25 June 2021 14: 56
      Quote: Basarev
      And only that we are injected with an incomprehensible slurry, ridiculed in the Lancet.
      minus you.
      article in Lancet about Sputnik-V dated May 12, 2021: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00894-1/fulltext
      Thus, to date, the safety and immunogenicity of the Sputnik V vaccine has been confirmed in multiple studies.

      translation
      Thus, to date, the safety and immunogenicity of the Sputnik V vaccine has been confirmed in numerous studies.
    10. -1
      25 June 2021 22: 52
      "and a completely Jesuit interpretation of the concept of voluntariness - did you hear how Peskov said?"
      sands is beautiful. what is Putin's mind - Peskov's on the tongue
  6. +5
    25 June 2021 11: 22
    Naturally sane Americans took the trick as an insult to the memory of the millions of exterminated Jews and boycotted the store.
    ... Here, behold, it does not reach our "spiritualized" and WILL NOT! until the society itself gives them an appropriate assessment, REALLY, PUBLIC.
    Unfortunately, a lot of efforts were made so that a cohesive society would not take place in our country, but there would be a faceless, powerless crowd !!!
  7. +10
    25 June 2021 11: 26
    Never understood "creative personalities". Why do they get involved in politics? You are a good actor, so play! You are a good musician - play. You are a public person and are responsible for every word you say! What responsibility will he bear? None! Therefore, in my eyes - a buffoon. Everything for scandalous POPULARITY. Even a "burnt theater actor" does not pull.
    1. +2
      25 June 2021 12: 03
      Well, it is possible for the so-called intelligentsia to always be dissatisfied with something and in a pseudo opposition to power, with any
  8. +7
    25 June 2021 11: 33
    First, they allowed the media, the Internet and other mass media to flood vaccination issues with shit, gave a tribune to all "professors-doctors" expressing doubts about vaccination and the reliability of vaccines, and when the grains of doubt firmly settled in their heads and gave their shoots, they were surprised to find that the people are suspicious of vaccines and vaccinations, despite the fact that the virus has not gone anywhere and as it mowed people down, so it mows. Here, within the meaning, there should be one quote, known at one time, characterizing the state of minds and actions of those who are supposed to and who should be responsible for vaccination. At one time, the Politburo, under the wise leadership of NS Khrushchev, proclaimed the "queen of the fields" corn and obliged everyone to sow. And they sowed, sowed beyond the Arctic Circle. They spat, swore, groaned, but sowed, because there was a question about the PERSONAL responsibility of the performers, and although they were not threatened with execution and the "zone", no one wanted to lose warm jobs in the agricultural departments of district, regional and regional party committees, the priests got used to soft chairs and party rations. And now what will be the answer of those who were obliged to carry out all this vaccination? Why is the population in Israel vaccinated, the mask regime has been canceled, some San Marino has been pierced with our own Russian vaccine and calmly accepts tourists and walks around cafes and beaches? In the United States, half of the 300 million population has already been vaccinated. Do they have a more conscious people or for refusal to punish draconian? Everything is as usual with us, they will wait to the last, and then - grab your bags, the station leaves!
    1. -5
      25 June 2021 11: 40
      States are encouraged to vaccinate
      1. +8
        25 June 2021 12: 41
        Quote: markant1970
        States are encouraged to vaccinate

        The Governor of Texas today declared covid certificates unconstitutional and banned them on the territory of the "Lone Star State".
        1. -4
          25 June 2021 13: 52
          In the subway, if a lottery ticket is grafted, they are given free laughing
    2. +1
      25 June 2021 12: 06
      Quote: Captain45
      First, they allowed the media, the Internet and other media to flood vaccination issues with shit


      It's just that in the midst of the first wave of coronavirus, Putin had to do his best not to scare the lekhtorate in order to create an extra crowd of voters in the famous "zeroing on stumps."
      Therefore, he mobilized propagandists to explain to the people that Covid is a bullshit only for Chinese and pampered gay Europeans, and he himself announced a complete victory over the virus.
      Why then are the authorities surprised?
      1. +1
        25 June 2021 14: 46
        Do we live in different realities? Where did this sick delirium come from?
  9. +6
    25 June 2021 11: 36
    But YouTube with a tick is overwhelmed with fake investigations. And the people believe in it. The example was filmed in the car, on the go. The "doctor" tells that the whole department is repressed by people after vaccinations, and they die like flies. Yes, I have my friend, heads a doctor from a hospital from a neighboring city, the whole hospital died yesterday and all at once. And the people believe this, in something Gebels is right, the more utter lie, the sooner they will be turned into it. Everyone became professors of virology. But it was necessary as in the USSR, no one asked I came to school, and there is a vaccination, the girls are the first and the boys follow them. And further in life, vaccinations, depending on work. For example, I have a vaccination certificate, like some have a medical book. There are no empty pages. And nothing is alive. And now a new topic, Sputnik 5 acts only on covid 19, and kills your immunity, in short, you will die in terrible agony from diarrhea, a cut, a sneeze and a bunch. What a delirium. No one looks at zombies, but you will pull delirium for every taste, which is passed off as the truth. My black humor, yesterday the second was inoculated.: Vaccination against pain It will not protect you, but you will definitely not die in torment, then someday, when you really want it. I wish you good health, think not only about yourself, but also about your loved ones.
  10. +3
    25 June 2021 11: 37
    In real life, there are queues at vaccination points. Social circle "for". There are a lot of idiots with medieval thinking on social networks. Apparently, in fact, someone pays for these dances with tambourines.
  11. +5
    25 June 2021 11: 37
    On vaccination, I have the following opinion. In addition to those who are against vaccinations simply because they are against (probably from a great mind), there are still quite a few people who are simply confused. After all, what information is freely available? If you have been ill, then you have antibodies and it is better to postpone vaccination for up to six months. But. There is also information that you can get sick without symptoms. This means that a person can perceive any increase in temperature without consequences as asymptomatic covid. And whether it is or not can only show the test for antibodies. And this test, alas, is paid. And there is no desire to pay for it. If, before vaccination, this test would be done at the same points and free of charge, I think there would be many more people willing. Just because it would be easier for people to understand.
    Regarding "raw" or "not properly tested and unrecognized" vaccines, I think that is nonsense. But this nonsense is designed for impressionable people. And it partially works.
    1. -1
      25 June 2021 11: 42
      Quote: Lesovik
      Regarding "raw" or "not properly tested and unrecognized" vaccines, I think that is nonsense. But this nonsense is designed for impressionable people. And it partially works.

      Soviet virologists would quickly cool you down - but, alas, they are no longer there.
      1. 0
        25 June 2021 11: 52
        Quote: PROXOR
        Soviet virologists would quickly cool you down -

        Soviet virologists would have acted in the same way in this situation. In the conditions of the spread of the virus throughout the country, any virologists need a quick result and wait several years until all tests of the vaccine pass as it should be, no one would allow Soviet virologists.
        Another thing is that under the conditions of the "iron curtain" and with the Soviet capabilities of the administrative resource, the spread of the virus could have been greatly slowed down and limited. But it would not depend on virologists. And in any case, the vaccine would be put into operation no later than Western counterparts. It would simply be not the population of the Union that would begin to vaccinate (provided that administrative measures could contain the spread of the virus on the territory of the Union), but the population of African and Asian countries.
    2. +3
      25 June 2021 12: 21
      I put you a plus, for a good comment, I am for vaccination, although I think the story with the virus is very cloudy, personally I don’t want to get vaccinated because I haven’t had ARVI for 35 years, and I don’t want to interfere with the body, they will take tests for antibodies, and based on their results, we will think, but oppose because the government is bad, well, it causes laughter, but coercion does not cause good impressions either.
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  12. +3
    25 June 2021 11: 38
    Everything is simple. This is the logic of the Russian Ivan. Make the vaccine paid and by pull, so many people will rush at once.
    Yesterday I stuck the first component, the flight is normal.
    1. +1
      25 June 2021 11: 40
      In a couple of years, when the side effects come up, you will sing that everything is fine. God grant that I am wrong.
      1. -2
        25 June 2021 11: 44
        Wow, the expert pulled himself up. Rubbing about side effects. Aren't you tired of throwing minuses and reports to everyone here?) What would you do useful chtoli ...
        1. -4
          25 June 2021 11: 47
          Decide for me what to do ...
          For you, an ignoramus, I inform you that my knowledge is Soviet education, which is ZERO in you! If you want to believe, believe. Life will put everything in its place.
          1. 0
            25 June 2021 11: 49
            So what does your education tell you about the vaccine?
            1. 0
              25 June 2021 11: 51
              I wrote above. I will not paint for you.
              1. -3
                25 June 2021 11: 53
                He replied to my comment, but now you don’t want to paint. Divine logic) Okay, have fun further)
              2. +3
                25 June 2021 11: 59
                my knowledge is Soviet education
                Are you a joiner or a milkmaid by training?
          2. +1
            25 June 2021 12: 03
            "For you, an ignoramus, I inform you, my knowledge is Soviet education, which is ZERO in you!" (c) Are you being rude again? Don't discredit Soviet education. It not only stood up for knowledge, but also for harmonious development. laughing
          3. -1
            25 June 2021 14: 45
            "My knowledge is Soviet education" Judging by the garbage that you wrote above, you have no Soviet education even close.
      2. +1
        25 June 2021 12: 28
        Quote: PROXOR
        In a couple of years, when the side effects come up, you will sing that everything is fine. God grant that I am wrong.

        And you may not know about it - after you have been ill, lifelong immunity is not guaranteed, so you have to choose either the vaccine or get sick again. It is not a fact that a second illness will end happily for you, and then you will not know how the discussion on VO ended.
        1. -5
          25 June 2021 13: 18
          Even you are too lazy to answer. Now a hellish cloud of people with vaccinations is sick ...
          Blessed is he who believes.
          1. -5
            25 June 2021 13: 21
            This is a question of the effectiveness of the vaccine. Pfizer has 5 million 100 easily sick ... Hundredths of a percent.
          2. +1
            25 June 2021 17: 50
            Quote: PROXOR
            ... Now a hellish cloud of people with vaccinations is sick ...

            Lies, moreover primitive:
            "Among the sick, the number of vaccinated does not exceed 0,5% average. That is, vaccination allows you to provide protection against disease or severe disease, "

            https://www.vedomosti.ru/society/news/2021/06/25/875726-minzdrav-nazval-dolyu-zabolevshih-covid-19
            Quote: Shahno
            Pfizer has 5 million 100 mild cases ..

            And we have different scales, for starters:
            In general, in Russia, more than 21 million people, or 14,4% of the population, received the first of two doses of coronavirus vaccine. Another 16,5 million citizens, equivalent to 11,3% of the population, received both necessary vaccinations.

            Yes, and they refuse pfizer - you are just behind the times:
            The world continues to refuse vaccines by Pfizer and AstraZeneca

            Further: https://news.rambler.ru/world/45836541/?utm_content=news_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink
            Why would it be, come up with some kind of fairy tale ...
            1. 0
              25 June 2021 20: 12
              Well, if all your conclusions are made on the media controlled by federal departments, then this is an indisputable truth! There is no point in continuing to talk with you. You have already been given not only the covid vaccine, but also a couple of other things that the brain has already been affected.
        2. -2
          25 June 2021 23: 05
          "And you may not find out about it - after you have been ill, life-long immunity is not guaranteed."
          so the vaccine is only for six months and then on a new one
          1. -2
            26 June 2021 09: 49
            Quote: aglet
            so the vaccine is only for six months and then on a new one

            For a year "Sputnik" guarantees - look in the quar code, there is the expiration date of the vaccination.
      3. +2
        25 June 2021 13: 16
        report is death wish. everything is in your style
    2. +11
      25 June 2021 12: 19
      Quote: BISMARCK94
      Yesterday I stuck the first component, the flight is normal.

      They say that even the first dose of heroin is rarely fatal. But this is, as it were, not an argument that they should certainly be shocked. Yes
  13. +1
    25 June 2021 11: 45
    "The Israeli authorities have reintroduced the mandatory wearing of masks in an enclosed space against the backdrop of an increase in the number of people infected with coronavirus," The Times of Israel reported, citing a statement from the Ministry of Health.
    The day before, more than 200 new cases of COVID-19 infection were registered in the country, which was the maximum since the beginning of April. "

    And I already pointed out in the comments to the previous article that this is exactly how it will be!
    True, I did not expect it to be so fast. I assumed they would last until autumn.
    Alas, I was wrong ...

    Do you think that FMBA of Russia or Rospotrebnadzor is not aware of the realities?
    I am sure that when they gave the command to broadcast from each iron about a wonderful example of the results of vaccination in the form of Israel, they knew very well that the example would someday be "blown away", but like me they underestimated the virus.
    1. 0
      25 June 2021 13: 30
      200 people all over the country, the best example for vaccination, and how many are heavy on IVL, dozen 2?
      1. 0
        25 June 2021 14: 19
        1. It should be borne in mind that Israel has closed its borders.
        2. According to "the best example for vaccination ...", we will look at the ability of the virus in the form of subsequent mutations.
        By the way, in this sense, Israel is a very convenient testing ground for evaluating both vaccines and the virus. In fact, it is a very convenient, ideal, and, most importantly, a natural laboratory on the scale of the whole country. The dream of any scientist!

        One thing is for sure: Vaccinated people, do not buy into Sobyanin's proposals to visit the "COVID-19-free zones", this will be a breeding ground for infection, since vaccinated people are also carriers of the virus.
      2. 0
        25 June 2021 14: 50
        600 deaths per day is a good example for getting vaccinated - vaccination protects the body from severe disease.
  14. -1
    25 June 2021 11: 58
    Because of the hillock, people drove and are going to get vaccinated with us. Everything was normal, dignified and noble. And again! As if by the wave of someone's dirty paw, it started ... In the media, on social networks, of course, actors with buffoons turned on. Holy fee and "gratitude" in envelopes will forgive everything! And the death of people who believed these abominations and who lose their lives for "freedom" on whose conscience? Beasts! By the way, is this eagle himself definitely not vaccinated? I would check.
  15. +1
    25 June 2021 12: 08
    well, if a homeless knight is an authority for the author, then everything is clear with him
    1. +2
      25 June 2021 12: 13
      Bozhena this hrenznaetrylka the author seems to me as a litmus test of the so-called bohemian liberalism, in which weather vane has the most developed instinct
      1. +2
        25 June 2021 12: 26
        if the author refers to such a bright representative of the 5th column, to whom any quotation is at the box office, then, obviously, the author himself is supporting the wall not far from her
        1. 0
          25 June 2021 12: 28
          Who knows ... I think he won't give an answer
  16. -1
    25 June 2021 12: 10
    This member of Beroev, judging by this, is not a great mind, whether to get vaccinated or not is his problem.
    And what will happen to him in case of illness will no longer worry anyone.
    And what is the problem in going and getting vaccinated?
    The problem is in the brains of these people and nothing else.
    1. -2
      25 June 2021 12: 13
      And to Evgeny ... Fedorov. A big request, do not tie the stars of David, especially the yellow ones, to the grafting theme. It's not decent, at least.
  17. G17
    +4
    25 June 2021 12: 13
    Hmm. I read the comments. Why are you, already vaccinated, raging so hysterically? Moreover, you insult those who do not want to consider themselves either a sheep or a prisoner of a concentration camp, where you can experiment with some kind of vaccine, the side effects of which have not yet been studied? And also answer the vaccine smart people: what kind of COVID is it, which then brings down with grave consequences on a hospital bed, then suddenly most people are asymptomatic at all? A very convenient formula, both for whipping up hysteria and mass psychosis, and for fabulous earnings on vaccines, masks, and gloves. And why is there not a word from the authorities about the compulsory vaccination of millions of guest workers who have settled on the territory of our country? And where is the staff on which the president, or his press secretary, or the mayor of Moscow are vaccinated? Let them set a personal example, since the danger is so great.
    1. 0
      25 June 2021 12: 25
      And what kind of covid is this in Europe, America, where someone is knocking down on the bed, and someone is in an easy form? And where are the personnel as the president goes to the toilet? If there are no such personnel, then he is a super person who does not piss or poop? how is your logic
    2. +2
      25 June 2021 12: 30
      what will prevent them from injecting saline?
    3. 0
      25 June 2021 13: 33
      And where is the staff on which the president, or his press secretary, or the mayor of Moscow are vaccinated? Let them set a personal example, since the danger is so great.


      This is the crux of the matter. Netanyahu was not vaccinated on the camera in the bastard - so 60% of them were vaccinated. And ours are slowing down something, although they should have gotten into the camera in an amicable way back in January.
    4. +1
      25 June 2021 21: 11
      A concentration camp with slaves and overseers is much more profitable than an area with a self-sustaining infrastructure and a moderately educated contract population.
  18. +2
    25 June 2021 12: 20
    I was vaccinated against the seasonal flu (tired of suffering and working with the flu) and then against the new flu. My mother was an epidemiologist, my father was a surgeon and was somehow brought up in respect and trust in medicine.

    But our (Bulgarian) government has failed in an explanatory campaign. We removed the government, but mistrust of the vaccine remained. Yes, and I, if I were 20, would never have been injected. For young people, any flu is about anything, but for children it does not affect them at all. Now we have 3 million unclaimed vaccines of all sorts - you want Astra, you want Pfizer or Modern or Johnson ... yes, everything is there. We'll have to push them to Africa quickly.

    So my friends, flu is not a plague and not tuberculosis or other obligatory. So everyone has the right to be vaccinated or not. We have no cases of obligation and I think there will be none. And the flu has completely disappeared - in the country there are only 50-60 cases a day.
    1. +3
      25 June 2021 12: 26
      As the son of doctors, you should know that the flu can give completely different complications, like sore throat.
      1. +2
        25 June 2021 13: 16
        Like the vaccine
        1. 0
          25 June 2021 13: 20
          And no one denies this from anyone else, not abroad, there is always a certain percentage
          1. 0
            25 June 2021 13: 46
            Actually, on this basis, I am skeptical about this vaccine.
            On the one hand, you have to manage to get sick with a certain probability and catch complications with a certain probability. On the other hand, side effects from the vaccine are likely to occur. In my opinion, the danger to life and health is approximately equal in both cases.
            In this situation, I equally respect the choice of both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. But the coercion of the authorities and the aggression of the vaccinated personally resent me.
      2. +1
        25 June 2021 14: 08
        As the son of doctors, you should know


        I know Andrey .... I have assessed in detail all the risks for myself. I know that the flu is transferred in different ways, the vaccine is also transferred in different ways, I chose a vaccine for myself and made it. But if someone decided to oblige me, he would gladly punch him. In our country, no one dares to make the vaccine compulsory - it's illegal. They will immediately announce Big Pharma in lobism and the end with it. Everyone should decide for himself and Darwin for everyone ... laughing
  19. +5
    25 June 2021 12: 35
    Today at one of the Tomsk enterprises, about 160 people were not allowed to work without vaccination. And they sent everyone on leave without pay. That's the whole story.
    1. +1
      25 June 2021 12: 40
      Well this is the employer's right. And the right of the judiciary to check the legality of restrictions, dismissals ...
      You are not suitable for the employer in terms of medical indicators. Do you want to take the test every n hours and that's it ...
    2. -2
      25 June 2021 12: 53
      Quote: From Tomsk
      Today at one of the Tomsk enterprises, about 160 people were not allowed to work without vaccination. And they sent everyone on leave without pay. That's the whole story.

      Could you indicate the exact name of this enterprise and the surname of the director, because Roskomtrud will be pleased to cut down 160 "sticks" on violation of the Labor Code of the Russian Federation, as they say, without leaving the cash register, at one enterprise at once, especially since fines for such a legal entity are not for going to the wrong place. And then this infa is more like horror stories from the Internet.
  20. +2
    25 June 2021 12: 44
    Quote: Basarev
    Don't you get it? The point is not that we are dense obscurantists who deny all vaccines in general - this is what distinguishes us from anti-vaccines, ignorant barbarians. And only that we are injected with an incomprehensible slurry, ridiculed in the Lancet. Supnik will be quoted in Europe, then we'll talk. In addition, even if we have made up our minds, we are not given a choice and they persistently inject this disgusting Soupnik. This also includes the ban on Western vaccines, which are humanly tested and recognized by the Lancet. It is also important that even the presence of a certificate does not give anything (or rather, it does not restore the seized rights) - you still wear the damned rag. Forgery is also widespread, when, right before the injection, they are ordered to sign a piece of paper with a disclaimer of responsibility - in which case the person will be alone with the consequences

    If you position yourself as a "truth-bearer", then at least you would stop lying recklessly to begin with.
    Made fun of in the Lancet ... To be quoted in Europe ... We have no choice.
    Is Europe the only and unrepeatable legislator in this direction? As it turned out, Europe found itself in a very delicate situation with both vaccinations and the consequences of the pandemic. I don't think it's smart to look up to her without looking back.
    About the choice. Also lied to. Not only Sputnik is available.
    1. -2
      25 June 2021 13: 44
      Tell me, where can we make a choice of injection at the official level?
  21. for
    +5
    25 June 2021 12: 44
    What are the vaccinations? In Samara, the covid festival after the festival won, continuous holidays. Volgafest ended not all-Russian approach On the hills of Manchuria. But Grushinsky was canceled.



  22. 0
    25 June 2021 12: 46
    Well, Beroev should have looked at the experience of the state whose star he put on himself.
  23. +9
    25 June 2021 12: 47
    I will not talk about everyone - I will say about myself:
    1. Not vaccinated.
    2. Signed up for a vaccination, because it is necessary. But not because I will be fired, for example, but in connection with the peculiarity of prof. activities - it can easily turn out so that they will not be allowed to the place of work.
    3. I do not see any practical, here are really practical reasons for the vaccine because:
    3.1. You must wear a mask and gloves.
    3.2. Being vaccinated, you will still transmit the disease.
    3.3. To get sick you will get sick anyway.
    3.4. According to some reports, the vaccine "fizzles out" in a year and a half and again, it is great.
    3.5. The long-term side effects of vaccination are unknown.
    3.6. If you catch an infection in the interval between the first and second injections of the vaccine, everything is very, very bad.
    4. In the pluses and therefore in the need to do it, I see the following:
    4.1. You can shove a document in the face, where it is written that I am vaccinated - that is, they will be required to admit to the place of work, although at the same time, especially meticulous ones have the right to demand the results of PCR, because you can be a peddler. For our country, a fundamental plus, because paper and printing are our everything.
    4.2. If you get sick, then it seems that you should suffer less and, probably, you can't glue the flippers - so, wrap yourself up a little.
    4.3. ... Like all the pluses ?! Not enough, an infection.

    I can be told here that I am a dark person - I agree.
    Then why, you, I mean our statesmen, fuck you all, didn't enlighten me? Why did the vaccination campaign not start in January, and you, the infection, waited for the third wave and now, like a lynx wounded in an aphedron, you rush about in the June heat and, pressing social programs, drive people to get vaccinated?
    My answer is simple - because you, our dear middle and top managers, in general, a crowd of incompetent, selfish, cowardly, greedy and cruel idlers and parasites, who from the beginning bring the situation to a complete collapse, and then begin to feverishly correct it - in the best traditions of inept and loafers of all times and peoples.

    The vaccination company failed miserably, not because our people are "dark", but because it was built crookedly and completely headless. If you want people to believe in the vaccine, then, first of all, everything, I emphasize, the entire government, and of course Solntselikiy, should have been vaccinated back in January-February and, ska, on camera !!! And secondly, advertising in terms of vaccination should show the poles of this and debunk the minuses, demonstrating this in the format of simple, memorable short clips, otherwise you turn on TyTruba, for example, and there is all sorts of nonsense, but not a single, generally not a single word about the need for vaccination , and in theory, a short, capacious, correctly submitted infa about the need for vaccination should have unobtrusively but densely filled the information space of the Russian media immediately after the public vaccination of the senior management, somewhere in March of this year.

    This is if you do it according to your mind, but for this you need to have it, and they have trouble with it, because this is the way it is in the vastness of my country.
    This is sad.
    I think so.
  24. +3
    25 June 2021 12: 59
    I personally look at this situation as a conflict between the speculatively observed and the next stupid antics of the blind bureaucracy in hand with coercion.
    For example, back in April last year, I had COVID like most of my relatives. Also my neighbors, friends, acquaintances, friends of acquaintances, etc. have been ill. The list turns out to be decent. One person died (not from COVID itself, but from complications after a serious operation, which COVID actually only "finished off") out of about 26 people I know who have had Covid19. Most of these people have had the same illness as I did - about a year ago - in the interval from March to July.
    Several people in excess of this list were asymptomatic, which was confirmed by antibody tests.
    In general, a selection of about 30 people comes out - symptomatically and asymptomatic. Different ages - about 50% of them are young and middle-aged pensioners.
    Where I am leading - now, a year of time has passed since then - peaks, recessions, again peaks. NONE OF THE PEOPLE KNOWN TO ME HAS BEEN SICK AGAINST. Considering how easily Covid became attached to me at one time (despite the mask, gloves, etc.) - the fact that I have been cutting through crowded places of Moscow without gloves (only in a mask) for more than a year - should have cut me down a second time, according to the logic of things ... Which I am not observing. Maybe during this time I have already had 2 asymptomatic illnesses? Okay, I signed up for an antibody test - I'll find out in early July. But the WHOLE picture that I see PERSONALLY I show - that like the MOST of the diseases I have had 1 time - and the immunity is preserved for an extremely long time.
    What are the authorities telling me? The authorities say that immunity is half a year after vaccination. The authorities generally do not consider my natural immunity to be immunity. They want to put me in line with everyone - in a jumble of unvaccinated, not sick, asymptomatic, etc. That I personally may have some kind of side effect from the conflict between my natural immune system and the vaccine - this does not hover anyone at all. And by the way, it should soar - because in this case the state should be responsible.
    Will my state be responsible in the event of such a side effect? I doubt it. Most likely it will translate the arrows - as it loves to do. Moreover - I still have not seen clear statistics on re-infections with COVID - with the% of the total number of survivors, the temporal spread for which the number of re-illnesses increases, with their age-sex group, etc.
    I personally have not seen a single person with COVID again - and none of my friends know about it.

    The question is - why should I go and use drugs? Because bureaucrats believe that immunity is half a year? Because the party said that everyone means everyone? I do not see even a drop of reason in the modern approach.
    An incident arises - from a legal point of view, I am "not immune" - in fact, I have immunity. But my rights will also be limited - and this is nonsense as it is. And we now have such nonsense in bulk - how can we relate to this, pray tell?)
    1. +6
      25 June 2021 13: 51
      I myself was ill a year ago in July, two weeks ago I did a test, and there are a lot of antibodies. and also did not see a single re-infected, but I saw someone who fell ill a month after the 2nd vaccination.
      1. +1
        25 June 2021 14: 02
        The fact that it is best for people who are not sick to get vaccinated does not cause me any doubts (although there is still some skepticism about our vaccines and the objectivity of data on their side effects and effectiveness). But at the moment, we are observing pure hysteria in the category of "recovered" - 4 of my acquaintances (from those who had recovered) were faced with the fact that the employer requires them to be vaccinated. It turns out the situation is like in the joke "The doctor said to the morgue, it means to the morgue!" ...
        In conditions when there are still NO objective data on the duration of immunity by age groups, there are no data on the statistics of recurrent diseases, there are no long-term data on the stability of "vaccine" immunity - a really large-scale medical experiment is imposed, for the consequences of which no one will most likely be responsible (except health of the subjects, of course). This is not a very good picture for me. I heard that people who have been ill in the event of vaccination have very unpleasant consequences, which, together with the kilometer-long queues for testing antibodies (I had a 16-day queue at the time of recording) and low detectability of smear tests - kakbe hints that a lot of people (in including asymptomatic) runs the risk of beating with consequences.
    2. +4
      25 June 2021 14: 26
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      I personally have not seen a single person with COVID again - and none of my friends know about it.

      I agree with every word. Indeed, there are no re-illnesses in my environment .. and my statistics are exactly the same as yours .. that year, a work colleague's mother died, who was about 70 years old from complications after an illness. Nobody else died in my environment .. but it is interesting that in our team, more than 50 people .. this year no one went to sick leave .. in general, they stopped getting sick this year, although in 2019-20 everyone around was sneezing .. In general, there are a lot of questions.
      1. 0
        25 June 2021 15: 26
        wife's brother died re-infected
  25. sen
    +2
    25 June 2021 13: 31
    By the way about Israel. He is bringing back the wearing of masks due to the rising incidence of COVID-19. Vaccinations help, but they do not provide a complete guarantee.
    https://rg.ru/2021/06/25/izrail-vozvrashchaet-noshenie-masok-iz-za-rosta-zabolevaemosti-covid-19.html?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&nw=1624616235000
    In Europe, they offer to be vaccinated every half a year, as Sobyanin did.
    I know from my colleagues from America and European countries that it is impossible to take this test (for antibodies) there, because insurance companies do not pay for it, but it costs 6-7 thousand rubles in terms of our money. Not everyone is willing to pay that much. Therefore, in many countries there is no culture of tracking their antibody titer, so they are vaccinated six months after the illness.

    https://ngs.ru/text/health/2021/06/23/69981068/
  26. BAI
    +4
    25 June 2021 13: 33
    1. Appealing to the authority of Rynski (Kuritsina) is cool. I haven't heard of her existence for a long time.
    2. The virus is constantly changing. Who proved that the vaccine will work against new strains of the virus? Using the example of the current Indian virus, we see - it does not work or is not effective.

    PS. My wife and I were vaccinated. Both fell ill. But it should be noted that the disease was rather mild. There were no horrors.
    1. -2
      25 June 2021 14: 53
      So the easy form came out thanks to the vaccine, and without it, it could be medium and heavy.
      1. BAI
        +2
        25 June 2021 14: 54
        This is what I meant. The wife's reaction to the vaccine was more severe than the disease itself.
      2. +2
        25 June 2021 18: 33
        Quote: Vadim237
        So the easy form came out thanks to the vaccine, and without it, it could be medium and heavy.

        I suffered a serious illness, my wife and children were easy. Everyone is not vaccinated.
  27. -3
    25 June 2021 13: 35
    If we know for sure that the virus is active and in terms of epidemiology (infectiousness) exceeds those known to us and "living" in parallel, as well as in mortality tens and hundreds or even thousands of times the same flu. If we know for sure. That the incubation period of the virus allows it to literally turn into a biological weapon, "riding" on the infected. If we know that there is no cure for him and we have to count on luck, since it is not yet clear how he will kill.
    1.Based on what people refuse vaccines?
    2. Why, considering the question of vaccinating or not to be purely private, are they at the same time actively trying to campaign for their position?
    3. Why are these people not consistently opposed to vaccinations against tick-borne encyphalitis, zika virus, ebola, plague, smallpox?
    4. Why are these people not trying to formalize their rights to non-vaccination legally, to create some kind of society or movement? After all, in fact, their position is based on voluntary vaccination and the principle of voluntariness is pedaled by the top management? Is there a legal problem in this situation, if this position is legalized in the legal field, making it at least antisocial and violating some legal norms and rights? In particular in the Russian Federation?
    P / S: in matters of compulsory vaccination of civil servants and public sector employees, we stand on the platform for assessing the state as an employer, and therefore as a subject that determines the rules for providing work-service. Nobody takes away the right to refuse vaccination and change jobs from people. People are normal about the presence of medical books in some industries, as well as responsibility for their health.
  28. +1
    25 June 2021 13: 56
    Quote: Alien From
    Tell me, where can we make a choice of injection at the official level?

    What does it mean at the official level?
    For example, we have opened vaccination centers in shopping centers (in addition to medical institutions). You can find out which drug and, accordingly, make a decision.
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  29. -2
    25 June 2021 14: 36
    Satisfied with the hysteria of the stupid anti-vaccine laughing
  30. +4
    25 June 2021 15: 33
    Get vaccinated free of charge. Well done. Although what good fellows, if it is a direct responsibility of the state. And don't you want to do the tests free of charge? Or does someone in the government have gesheft from these analyzes and will incur expenses?
    The people are not afraid of the vaccination, the people are afraid that after that they will still have to pay money. We have already been shod with masks. Remind who in the government rose in their production in the first half of the year.
    The people do not protest against vaccinations, they protest against the fact that they would profit from it, because they are already pretty tired of it.
  31. 0
    25 June 2021 15: 34
    In the Soviet Union, they would not even ask the opinion of the population, but everyone was vaccinated with a vaccine. And now "democracy" and it is more difficult to cope with nihilists. Covid is there and this is not a joke. You understand this when you find yourself on forced ventilation.
    1. -4
      25 June 2021 23: 24
      "You understand that when you find yourself on forced ventilation."
      You will find yourself on forced ventilation of the lungs if you forget how to breathe, after damage to the brain, or even the cerebellum, when the respiratory reflex is lost. nothing to do with the virus
  32. +4
    25 June 2021 15: 38
    Quote: Pushkar
    I'm telling you. Only yesterday I was discharged from the "Red Zone" Was vaccinated, but between the first and second vaccinations some very stupid unvaccinated bastard infected me and my wife (we are over 70 years old). My vaccination still worked, but my wife is in the hospital on oxygen. I'm not afraid of you, anti-vaccines, but there is a war, a pandemic, and for all those infected by you I would put you against the wall according to the laws of wartime. The hand would not flinch.

    Look no matter how they put you
  33. +1
    25 June 2021 17: 18
    Therefore, the hysteria about the mandatory vaccination has no basis whatsoever.

    Interestingly, but gentlemen who have been shirking know that they are ruining their immunity and now they will have to be vaccinated against this flu every six months? The first dose is free, it is possible that the second will be the same, and then it will probably be necessary to pay, or will the swindlers from the authorities continue to steal the money allocated by the budget for vaccination, distributing them to their pharmaceutical companies? Those occurring other than greedy scum, impudent from impunity, cannot be called a suitable word. However, this whole scam in the world was started for the sake of this! That they would be on a needle in life.
    1. +2
      25 June 2021 20: 00
      And this is like with gerych and coke. The first couple of doses are free, and then you will pay with money or in kind. Don't you know, didn't you tell? Every cured patient is a lost customer, and consumption is the engine of the economy. Welcome to capitalism and the "invisible hand of the market" (which you have not only in your pocket, but also in another place ... (where the sun does not shine) and without Vaseline, but then "freedom and capitalism" - relax and enjoy.
  34. -3
    25 June 2021 17: 28
    Everything can be forgiven to the Russian:
    Anti-vaccination, hooliganism ...
    But those who stopped drinking vodka -
    To deprive of Russian citizenship!

  35. 0
    25 June 2021 17: 42
    I do not want to look original or special, I just want to share my "experience of acquaintance" with this infection. At the very beginning of March last year, something happened that all people had already begun to fear, and there were still no specific recommendations for prevention. About what to be treated, each scientist talked his own way. I was the first to fall ill, the next day my daughter and then my spouse. The wife was already fine in a day (although her symptoms were the same as mine, only without coughing and mild shortness of breath). My daughter felt better after about a week. I was "lucky" least of all - nearly a month and a half of torment (fever, headache that did not let go for a minute and "walked" all over the skull, a cough of any strength that caused severe pain in the chest, lack of appetite, body aches and , oddly enough, constipation). This is roughly what I experienced and felt. True, two weeks later, the illness began to relieve me (my temperature subsided, my appetite appeared, my head stopped hurting), but my joy was premature. The very next day I was twisted again and would not let go for about a month. But even then for several months I could neither take a deep breath, nor sneeze, or cough, the pain in my chest was still there. And now, no, no, yes, it will remind.
    So, this is all about the course of the disease and the "charms" that accompanied it.
    And now a little about my personal experience of dealing with this trouble (because I was treated at home on my own, so to speak). I began to take / try everything that was at hand, namely: Dafalgan (Ibuprofen) - the result is Zero, Paracetamol - 0, Chinese Antigrippin on drink for a week - felt a little relief and no more, Aspirin - 0). This was also recommended by medicine at that moment. The head worried very much, the pain was constant and at different moments it manifested itself in different places. And then something happened that became like a miracle for me - I drank half a tablet of Citramon - and that's it: the headache went away, the temperature dropped, my health improved!
    From half a tablet of citramone, which I have always treated with caution, because there could be side effects from him. I also advised him to my own sister - the result is the same!
    Now on the topic of discussion - I will not touch on either anti- or zaprivivochnikov, everyone probably here has his own arguments, which for him will be an immutable truth. I think that people's heads (or something in their heads) should still "turn on", at least in terms of compliance with basic hygiene rules and general safety standards (or general b / danger). Well, you can't be so careless or selfish, spitting at everyone: they walk all night long, some thousands of gatherings for concerts, without rest at the resort (even where it is categorically impossible to go - a difficult epidemic situation), it turns out that life is not life, masks for to the devil - it's hot, and bored), hands are not processed, damp tidy in the premises is not done, etc. etc. All you need is respect for others and self-control (especially over your own I want)!
    Power or should be started to bring to the end (logical), and not jump like that flea: restrictions have been introduced - strict control and sensitive punishment for all violators. Human and other reserves have been mobilized to fight the covid, and all these "talking" heads - deputy. Sobyanin, who, like himself, only "lives" in the TV set, Golikova is the main one in the government according to the antiquarian program (and she did not even answer for her optimization of all medicine). It is necessary to cut off empty-headedness and ordinary careerists, especially in such a difficult time, from managing important affairs and performing serious tasks.
    Sorry for a lot of "bukaf", could not resist. All health and patience, and of course prudence!
  36. +6
    25 June 2021 17: 59
    I have no doubt about the presence of Covid-19, but I am very confused by the aggressiveness of the authorities in achieving total vaccination. Watch a video from the St. Petersburg economic coven on the net, a very revealing video where the aunt horse is having fun with Danilka. 50 people in one small room are stacked on the floor on top of each other. And the funny thing is that no one has any masks or gloves, there is no respect for social distance. And these people paid 50 thousand to get infected? Do they look like idiots? Either they know what is not available to us, or they have a completely different vaccine, or all this hysteria is just a smokescreen. The same question arises when you watch reports on the Geneva summit. Handshakes, kisses, hugs and again no masks, no gloves, no social distance. What a squiggle you understand!

    According to WHO statistics, pneumonia and other forms of pneumonia affect approximately 450 million people every year and claim the lives of 4 million inhabitants of the planet. "RIA Novosti.
    November 12, 2018
    Coincidence, I don't think so!
    1. +3
      25 June 2021 19: 09
      at the 1994 Cairo Conference, the Population Regulation Action Program was adopted. It spoke openly about reducing the birth rate as the goal of the program. And as concrete measures depopulation called sex education, contraception and anti-birth propaganda. Valentina Matvienko in 1994 signed the final documents of the Cairo International Conference on Population and consistently cooperates in the implementation of this program of the Cairo Conference.
      Since then, a lot of water has flowed under the bridge. The official is still in business.
      Prince Philip Mountbatten: "If after death I reincarnate, I want to become a deadly virus that will help solve overpopulation problem".
      But the virus is difficult to control and mutates quickly. Vaccinations are another matter. It is possible that the planet's population was utilized by various methods and caused a wave of anti-vaccinations.
      Maybe I'm wrong - tell me what.
      1. +2
        25 June 2021 19: 57
        No irony. Think absolutely correctly "" If some grandiose nix happens in the world or in the country, be sure, kid, rich people in power, they all burn in hell forever, created this nix in order to get even more time and power at my and your expense ... Look, notice and THINK, and most importantly, keep an eye on the money and keep an eye on who this naughty is PROFITABLE. "- Sifu Jeff Spivey. (Originally all this was said in English, with eloquence and phraseological units that only southerners and blacks are capable of).
    2. -4
      25 June 2021 22: 08
      16
      And he will do what everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slaves, will receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead,
      17
      and that no one will be allowed to buy or sell, except for the one who has this mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
      18
      Here is wisdom. Whoever has a mind, consider the number of the beast, for it is a human number; its number is six hundred sixty six.
      revelation of John the Evangelist ..... and the number of the beast is entered openly in each barcode ... why was this done? you could have entered 333 or 444 but entered the number of the beast .... and such a code is entered as a liquid chip?


      ;
      7
      And he said with a loud voice: Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come, and worship Him who made the heavens and the earth, and the sea and the fountains of waters.
      8
      And another Angel followed him, saying: Babylon fell, the great city fell, because he watered all the nations with the fury of his fornication.
      9
      And the third Angel followed them, saying with a loud voice: Whoever worships the beast and his image, and takes the mark on his forehead, or on his hand,
      10
      he will drink the wine of God's wrath, whole wine, prepared in the cup of His anger, and will be tormented in fire and brimstone before the holy angels and before the Lamb;
      11
      and the smoke of their torment will ascend forever and ever, and they will have no rest day or night, those who worship the beast and his image, and who receive the mark of his name.

      The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the ground: and cruel and disgusting festering wounds were made on people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped his image.
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  37. -2
    25 June 2021 18: 00
    and when "-" articles will be returned ???
    Or the site owners are getting below the "plinth"?
  38. -8
    25 June 2021 18: 34
    "unvaccinated" you can talk as long and as much as you like for freedom of choice, for trials and for any other "heresy" but vaccination will be mandatory - everything goes to this - and all your stories are temporary, until the introduction of mandatory vaccination at the level of the law. Then, of course, you can search and "buy" left-hand certificates or tests, but this will already be a matter of jurisdiction - at least you will be fired, the average plus draconian fines. I don’t need to tell me about the "bloody gebnya" and tyranny)))))) I don’t care - you just see what’s going on
    1. +2
      25 June 2021 23: 31
      "until the introduction of compulsory vaccination at the level of the law"
      when there is a law that is the same for everyone, then we will speak.
      1. 0
        14 July 2021 11: 45
        what to talk about? you will go and say we will not be vaccinated .... the prose of life
        1. 0
          14 July 2021 12: 47
          "you are going to get vaccinated"
          have you already been vaccinated? so rejoice in silence, there are 12% of you around the country, your business is how you behave. just don't force me to do anything at will. fraught
          1. 0
            14 July 2021 14: 00
            fraught with what))))))) "you will stand" in the internet and that's all ..... I said - there will be a law and there will be nothing to discuss
            1. 0
              15 July 2021 07: 41
              ". I said - there will be a law and there will be nothing to discuss"
              How cool are you, according to you, the laws will be introduced? only there are more normal people, your dreams will not come true, and you will continue to moan, just like now. grafted, so what? should everyone else follow you? if your health is stunted, and your head is spacious, continue to vaccinate, now every six months you will be injected with something, even without any law.
              1. 0
                15 July 2021 19: 01
                and I already decided the matter. what are you cool here))))) somehow "fraught" threatened))))))) I do not express my desires or wants ... I shared my vision of how this whole story will end ... first they will play "voluntarily ", then in" voluntary-compulsory ". and then, according to the law, everyone is obliged to ....... whether I want it or not ... whether you want it or not)))))) but personally, I recommend you to learn not only CAREFULLY to read, but also to learn to understand what you read. ..but first read carefully
                1. 0
                  16 July 2021 09: 31
                  "and I already decided it was. that you are cool here."
                  and you were not mistaken, unfortunately, in real life we ​​will not meet, otherwise you would have personally convinced of this. you are led to the wiring - your business, but do not force others to follow you. or insulting? but late, and once, legolas. if you want to be understood, express your feelings specifically, although who cares about them now, your feelings
                  1. 0
                    16 July 2021 23: 09
                    in general, as usual ... an empty "bunch" rang out on the Internet
                    1. 0
                      17 July 2021 08: 53
                      "empty" bunch "rang out on the Internet"
                      well, yes, as usual. get out of your room rather than suffocate
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                      2. 0
                        17 July 2021 14: 31
                        "dear, what are you doing?"
                        vap you, and vap so that a bunch is heard. there are fewer fools than you think, and such a law will never be introduced, do not even hope
                      3. 0
                        17 July 2021 15: 02
                        Seriously)))))) apparently in mind that a very important aiguillette decided so))) otherwise it’s FANTASTIC ..... aiguillette will not approve ... go dull clown
  39. 0
    25 June 2021 19: 11
    My parents were vaccinated with them at 65. After 42 days, both fell ill with COVID-19, the clinic said that vaccination does not guarantee that a person will not get sick. Due to the course of the disease, the mother is easy, and the father has a temperature of 38 and 25% of the lungs are affected. I do not mind vaccinations, but full tests were not carried out by satellite, and those who are vaccinated voluntarily or forcibly especially sign a paper that this is done voluntarily, you assume responsibility for yourself.At my work, almost 99% were ill in September 2020, then in March two and no one from them got sick 1 blood clot died because he was ill with mild covid, they wrote that he died of covid and was buried in a closed coffin. Now most of them are sick who did not get sick in the first and second wave.
  40. +3
    25 June 2021 19: 35
    Vaccines usually pass 3 levels of testing. And the last level is testing for long-term side effects. That is, tests at the 3rd level last at least a year. MINIMUM. What now? "Immediately to the masses". And this, we will note, from the "fatal disease", the mortality rate of which, ATTENTION 0.15%. That is, 15 hundredths of ONE percent. And in many cases, death is unknown from what, from the covid itself or from pre-existing diseases (especially diseases of the heart and lungs, such as emphysema and COPD). In the United States, Covid has become an excellent feeding trough for hospitals. And therefore, if the patient was INFECTED with Covid, and died, then it is written that he died from Covid, even if he had a heart attack. Hospitals receive subsidies from the state for this - an excellent feeding trough. And even if the patient has the usual flu, sometimes they write COVID and then say, OOops ... False positive. By comparison, N1H1 had a TWO percent mortality rate. So, all this panic, all this mass masquerade is simply incomprehensible. Especially the persistence with which in the United States they are trying to vaccinate children (who with Covid, unlike N1H1) practically do not get sick.
    An interesting fact is that the vaccine protects against ONE variant of the "deadly" virus, and there are already about 5. As for the Yellow Star, there is no "humiliation of the Holocaust". The fact is that in many European countries, Jews were forced to wear a yellow star so that everyone knew that they were Jews, so that they would not be hired to work, were not allowed into public places, and so on and so forth. Does it remind you of anything? And personally, I myself, 100% mishling myself, thought about this when I learned that you have stopped letting unvaccinated people into public places and threaten to lose their jobs, "now in Russia unvaccinated people will get tattoos on their faces, as they did to criminals in ancient China. (and he is a Jew) said, "In Russia, they should force the unvaccinated to make yellow stars, or else wear crosses there. They all went crazy there, or what? "

    So Beroev is 150% right. And what happened in the United States in Nashville. You are not taking an example from the United States. Better take the examples that in our hospitals you do not need to bring your own sheets, pillowcases and in every hospital and outpatient care center there are MRI and ultrasound and X-ray machines. We have here say that a "transgender" man cannot participate in women's competitions, they will also yell that you are a fOSHist. If you say that it is not mathematics and notes that should be banned, but encouraging blacks to learn, then you are generally "byaka and natsik". If you tell that blacks schoolchildren sell laptops for free in pawnshops (though, by the way), then you are also "Rassist and FoShist and Byaka". And if you say that you are against same-sex marriages, then there will also be consequences, and so there is freedom of speech. But if you say something that is not "progressive" or not "politically correct" there will be consequences, especially financial ones. Triumph of freedom of speech - if you agree with the elites. In short, like Metallica "Independence limited, freedom of choice - is made for you, my friend, freedom of speech - the words that they will bend. Freedom - with THEIR exception."

    Therefore, both your Beroev and our guys from Nashville are absolutely right. The fact that the United States has a strong Jewish lobby that pays for a lot, including LGBT propaganda and the propaganda of the "Critical Racial Theory" (why they pay for this is a completely different question), but the fact that the author in Russia essentially becomes a mouthpiece - a pusher of ideas ANTIFF (funded by Soros) and an ardent defender of political correctness, this also leads to some thoughts. As soon as you infringe on the rights of people in any category, with the exception of serious crimes, then with the same success you can put yellow stars on them with the inscription JUDE on them. The difference, meanwhile, is not to hire or prohibit the entrance to a cafe for a non-vaccinated person, or to say, as my father was told at the Kiev Conservatory, "While I am a rector here, all Iosifovichs will not study with me here." This is the same.

    Such pre-Bikonazism could be justified if the death rate of the "horrible nightmare" virus was not 0.15%, but at least 10%. And so when the vast majority of deaths from COVID in the United States are people who are over 70, and who, as a rule, either already suffer from pulmonary, heart disease or diabetes, and even more crowded in nursing homes, then 40% of deaths are in nursing homes, where such unsanitary conditions that when you enter the living quarters you feel not the smell of shit and urine, but the TASTE. In nursing homes, by the way, they do not live in the United States for a very long time without covid.

    And what are you doing there in a "young democracy with a 20-year history", threatening people with job loss, forbidding them to go to public places without "indulgence", is absolutely no different from making a Jew wear a yellow star, or posting advertisements like were in the United States in the late 19th - early 20th century such as "Negroes, Irish and Dogs are not allowed." Or, as in the same USA, Jews were not admitted to universities, at about the same time.

    So I agree 150% with your Beroev. If the vaccine would have started to be used after at least a YEAR - one and a half trials, if mRNA had not been inserted there. By the way, the mRNA in the vaccine turns off your own infection control system, and takes over, as if putting it to sleep, and independently giving commands to your immune system. What does it mean? That your general immunity is weakening, and you need ... that's right, a NEW vaccine. Note that vaccines work for two years, your immunity is weakened, what does this mean? Yeah, in two years you need the vaccine AGAIN. from disease with 015% mortality. It's ingenious, Karl, everlasting profit. A cured patient means a lost customer, and trade is an economic stimulus.

    My 71 year old father, by the way, after Cancer, suffered a covid approximately "Like a nasty Grip" temperature of day 4, then two weeks of weakness. I also transferred covid, on Friday the temperature was 38.5, and on Wednesday I was already at work. So our family is familiar with the "pratical and terrible and deadly" covid not by hearsay, but our dentist, 2 days after the vaccination, sailed away - a blood clot in the brain. By the way, one of the side effects of the vaccine is thrombosis. Thank you, but I am better off with Covid than a blood clot in the brain, heart, or somewhere else ... There are more chances to survive from Covid than from a blood clot in the brain or heart or kidneys.

    Remember what I, by arrival in the US, said one very smart ebony named Jeff Spyivi "Listen here, the Patcher, if some big shukher occupies in the world, know, it was made by the rich powerful people in order for my and your account to get more more wealth and power. " After 9/11 he called me and said, "Do you remember what I told you? So, look, remember, and most importantly, Demitrius (the Negroes call me that way, Demitrius) - THINK."
    1. 0
      25 June 2021 21: 52
      Quote: Baron Pardus
      The chances of surviving from covid are greater than from a blood clot in the brain or heart or kidneys.

      that's right, it is, 70 percent of "deaths from covid" are nosocomial infections, 30 percent are people with chronic diseases, it turns out that covid is a common flu and not even the most lethal
  41. +4
    25 June 2021 20: 07
    You have a smart man in your internet, you have several of them, by the way. But IMHO, it was NORG that spoke out best of all on kovidobesy. https://norg-norg.livejournal.com/766979.html

    Caution - swear words. Although, if you honestly look at this your covid-madness "unvaccinated - in the stall", and without a mat it is impossible to look at it. Soon they will start jumping like baboons, burning your tires and yelling "Nepryvytogo on the gylaku", "Htoys ne skache - that nEPrYvyty" ... So your this actor is 150% right. By the way, this "code" of yours is in the public domain, that is, all your information with this code can be obtained by ANYONE. And I do not mean the FSB, the FSB already knows everything about you, do not flatter yourself. But all sorts of companies / corporations and other financial interests really want to get this information. Especially all sorts of hackers. Not only is your iPhone watching you, but now all the information about your health (and finances) is in the public domain.
    "Sharik, congratulations - you are Goonies" - Cat Matroskin.
  42. +2
    25 June 2021 20: 53
    Addition to my comment above. Informational message just published:
    The Emergency Committee of the World Health Organization (WHO) will meet in the coming weeks to review recommendations not to require a COVID passport for travel, said Michael Ryan, director of the WHO Health Emergencies Program.

    “The WHO Emergency Committee has clearly stated that the organization should not recommend a vaccination certificate as a prerequisite for travel. Especially given the uneven distribution of vaccines, and the uncertainty that vaccination prevents infection or disease transmission. The committee will meet again in a couple of weeks to review previously given recommendations for the WHO Director-General, "he said at the briefing.
  43. +2
    25 June 2021 21: 44
    since the government has raised the retirement age has destroyed and ruins industry and agriculture (taxes and levies) at the behest of the IMF, WTO, and WHO ... how can you trust such a government? he is already robbing people through taxes and levies ... and he sends money to the EU and the United States to all sorts of American and European treasuries! ... they have already thought of taking away children and sending them abroad to organs and families of perverts (under the guise of adoption) and they found money to support for this, guardianship, and laws are written under it ... how can the people trust such a government, with its technical inspection and civil liability insurance? And why is the government so concerned about vaccinations, if I have not been vaccinated and "can get sick" these are my personal problems? and all vaccinated will not get sick, so what are you worried about? They wrote that the vaccine contains a liquid chip identifier, that it leads to infertility, that they just want to kill us for the sake of a golden billion ... The press has repeatedly mentioned Margaret Thatcher's statement that Russia will have enough and 15 million people. I must say, this unpleasantly struck our liberal intelligentsia. I remember that one such champion of reforms was bewilderedly babbling in some radio program: "I, of course, understand everything, but why fifteen? Why not at least fifty?" Probably, she felt that at fifteen it would be difficult for her to enter ... And now, it turns out, you were the first to speak about this overly frank statement. Please tell our readers about it.

    - This primary source has never been translated into Russian. Although talk about him has been going on for a long time. Someone mentions the figure of 15 million, someone - 50 ... But the point is this. This statement is quite old and does not refer to Russia, but to the Soviet Union, because Thatcher was prime minister when the Soviet Union still existed. This was her speech on foreign policy. I heard it on sound recording. It did not directly say that 15 million people should be left in the USSR, but it was said more cunningly: they say, the Soviet economy is completely ineffective, there is only a small effective part, which, in fact, has the right to exist. And this effective part employs only 15 million people of our population. This is the meaning of Thatcher's statement, which was then interpreted in different ways. But the point is that from the point of view of modern politicians, who do not always speak out as frankly as the "iron lady", the existence of only those people who are employed in an efficient economy is justified. And for us this is a very bad call, because according to Western criteria, our economy is ineffective.
    1. 0
      27 June 2021 12: 54
      Thatcher is not. She didn't say that. This is Madeleine Orbright. Seriously, check it out.
  44. +8
    25 June 2021 22: 02
    I will speak out off topic, but nevertheless.
    The casualties among the Jews are undeniably terrifying. But to hear from each box about the Holocaust and without, it seems to me already too much. Why no one remembers the same gypsies, because they were also destroyed in batches? Why doesn't anyone remember the Ost plan? How civilians were killed in the USSR, one concentration camp for children in the village. What is Krasny Bereg worth? Selective memory?
    1. +5
      25 June 2021 23: 09
      Explain to you why the genocide of the Jews is so inflated, and how much less the genocide of the Russians is hushed up? Look who owns most of the banks and media funds in the United States, Britain and Europe and everything will become clear to you. I am Mishling myself, my mother is Russian, my father is a musician :-). You see, the Jews used their genocide to get: a) loot, b) create Israel. By the way, the very creation of Israel is a very muddy story. As well as the genocide of the Jews itself. For example, hitherto, Hitler just wanted to evict the Jews to hell from Germany - no one wanted to take them. Neither Poles, nor French, no one at all. Franco took a little, Mussolini a little, the British took a little (Gerald Darrell in one of his books writes about "two plump Jewish women who fled from Germany to England from Hitler"). The Americans simply turned the ships with the Jews back to Germany, where Auschwitz was already waiting for them. And, by the way, the same Americans, when Jews in the United States began to protest against the Nuremberg racial laws, told Jewish organizations "to shut up, otherwise we will find financial violations." I read that Hitler was even going to arm the Jews and send them to recapture "Palestine" from the British, but the Jews did not want to. True or not, I don’t know. But the whole genocide of the Jews, a muddy story. The vast majority of Jews were counted twice: once as Jews, the second time as Soviet Jews, or Polish Jews. The French, by the way, gathered their Jews without the help of the Germans and sent them to concentration camps. They keep quiet about this. Nekomilfo, it is inconvenient to somehow remind about this. And the Frenchmen are recorded as "the victors of Nazism." Why? Dont clear. That is to say, putting the Germans on the grandmother and beating them with the genocide of the Jews is OK, but reminding the French about the same genocide is taboo? "Civilized Cultural People" my ass. Tsar Boris protected the Jews. Mussolini became famous for his "I have no Jews, I only have Italians." So the whole Jewish genocide is a very muddy story about which many details do not know. Well, no one knows anything about the GrandPlan OST in the USA, and about the entire "civilized Geyrop". Information, of course, is not prohibited. Is it just that no one says anything about her?
      1. +1
        26 June 2021 21: 50
        Quote: Baron Pardus
        So the whole Jewish genocide is a very muddy story about which many details do not know. Well, no one knows anything about the GrandPlan OST in the USA, and about the entire "civilized Geyrop". Information, of course, is not prohibited. Is it just that no one says anything about her?

        Yes, the story is muddy, but you need to rely on information about the atrocities of the Nazis and thereby beat the modern fascists (Poland of the Balts and Bendera), and if the Jews here shy away, keep silent ... then accuse the leaders of Jewish organizations of betraying the victims of the Holocaust and collaborating with neo-Nazis .. .. if these leaders refuse to condemn the Poles, Balts, and Bender as anti-Semites and fascists ... and France is far away and I am not personally interested, because we will not achieve anything here, and we will not be of any use except emotions ... God will judge them
        1. +2
          27 June 2021 20: 21
          Understand finally that EVERYTHING. Absolutely ALL legal organizations SHIT are COMMERCIAL structures. The people who work there, perhaps even ideological, but receive a salary, they want to eat, but to be fired is not very good. And they will say what their "well-wishers" tell them to say. Therefore, they say not what they THINK, but what they PAYED for.
          Do you think that in Israel, or in the Amer Jewish organizations, they do not know anything about Galitchina and Nachtigal? KNOW. They know very well. In Yad Vashem, everything is written in black and white. But that is in Yad Vashem, and the American Jewish and other legal organizations of SHIT are DIFFERENT. For them, kicking YESTERDAY'S enemy is not profitable. Nice but unprofitable. Any Soros, Rothschilds, Daimondas and others (namely, they are the main donors of Jewish and other "non-governmental" organizations) will not receive any money, neither political capital, nor from Ukraine nor from the Balts-lymphotropics. But with the weakening of "political partners" (as you say), such as China and Russia - you can get something - in the future. By the way, it is interesting why the United States openly calls Russia “adversary”, while Russia calls the United States “partners”, this is some kind of sadomasochism, 50 shades of gray, like a woman who is beaten by a drunken husband and she is still with him. This is a pathology, but oh well, you have chosen Putin, you and understand.
          You see, no one will WORK for free in the USA. Yes, there are people who go out and "adopt the highway", pick up garbage along the highway a couple of times a month and plant bushes. There are people who work a couple of times a month in soup kitchens for the homeless, or in cat shelters. But they DO NOT LIVE on it. And if the organization has workers on a salary, and a director with a 6-figure salary, then WHERE do they take this money. And once they take it, then they need to WORK. So they work it out.
          That is why many politicians, or there employees of any services, when WORKING said one thing (so as not to lose their jobs and not to harm their career), and when they retire / retire they say WHAT THEY THINK IN REALITY. Therefore, Colin Powell shook a test tube with washing powder at the UN like a baboon shakes a banana he found, and after retiring, he generally refuses to say anything on this topic.

          Well, understand - the same. This is CAPITALISM. They say what you are PAYED for, or what you are NOT FIRED for. It is the same with Jewish and other "legal SHIT" organizations. Do you really think that ANTIFA and BLM on their own, spontaneously organized themselves, printed the same professional posters, made the same T-shirts for themselves, that they stocked up on food themselves, and raised money for themselves to buy ransoms from under arrest? If yes, then I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn especially for you. Good, inexpensive.
          1. 0
            28 June 2021 01: 15
            Quote: Baron Pardus
            Good, inexpensive.

            in general, there is nothing to argue about, you will have to agree with you, but the Russian Federation also has certain opportunities for ideological struggle, not all Western journalists are allowed to the cake, but there are simply those who do not know the ideological guidelines of the CIA, there are communications where you can sometimes leak something, find a hole in their front, and there are loopholes in the front of Western liars ... The problem you indicated, our liberal authorities sold themselves to the West for 30 pieces of silver, and they call him partners ... and unfortunately without quotes ... you need to start with yourself
    2. +3
      27 June 2021 05: 25
      Quote: T.A.V.
      The casualties among the Jews are undeniably terrifying. But to hear from each box about the Holocaust and without, it seems to me already too much. Why no one remembers the same gypsies, because they were also destroyed in batches
      Because the Holocaust has become a religion ...
      1. 0
        28 June 2021 11: 30
        "Because the Holocaust has become a religion."
        the Holocaust was turned into a business. Germany still pays reparations to Israel?
  45. +9
    25 June 2021 22: 43
    Dear Evgeny Fedorov, you either watched the TV with Solovyov, Kiselev, Zeyanalova and other mouthpieces of our government and turned everything upside down. You did not understand Beroev's message, but this is the correct message: our society begins to artificially divide the power into vaccinated (loyal) and not vaccinated (not loyal to the government). You blame irresponsible citizens for everything, calling them dark and illiterate, who do not understand that everything is being done for their good. You are apparently either stupid or live on the moon. Let's look at things soberly. Over the past 20 years, the following has been done: the monetization of benefits (completely oyuman and robbery), the collapse of free medicine, the formation of paid medicine (at the same time, contributions to the social insurance fund have not been canceled, i.e. we pay for free medicine, which does not exist, but for our we pay again), pension reform (robbery and condemnation of people to work until death), total control over citizens, insane taxation and fines. People were deprived of medical care, a normal education, they were robbed more than once in the process of pension reform and the devaluation of the ruble, they were put on products based on trans fats and GMOs. And suddenly bang! The state is concerned about the health of citizens! And it got worried all of a sudden. Not persuading, not explaining, but totally forcing and insulting. This is what Beroev is talking about. The question is: why would it suddenly, our undying government officials-billionaires, people with dual citizenship, take care of the health of their own population? So it is very profitable for someone! Who benefits from? Certainly not to the citizens, they are accustomed to the fact that the authorities only know how to rob and kill, and they will never get help. Remember the statements of officials: the state does not owe you anything, the state did not ask you to give birth, macaroons always cost the same? The overwhelming majority of people do not believe the state, the billionaire-fascists in power, Gebels-Peskov, the Fuhrer, celebrating May 9 with pomp, who destroyed and trampled everything our grandfathers shed blood for. And by the way they are doing the right thing. I don’t believe it either. Until the Fuhrer and his gang are behind bars, the fascist laws will not be abolished, people will not have faith in states. The social contract between the people and the state has been broken. The state officials said that it did not owe us anything, we also did not owe it anything. If there is an opportunity not to pay taxes, fees, fines and other taxes, people will not pay. They will be forced, they will receive a social explosion. A revolution can happen at any moment, and if it happens, no one will escape responsibility. In the west, they are not expected and here they have done things for 3 executions. And they understand this.
    As for the epidemic and pandemic, the author, there is no trace of it. An epidemic is considered when the number of cases simultaneously exceeded 5%, a pandemic - when the number of cases simultaneously exceeded 5% of the world's population. There is neither one nor the other. And the WHO, the founder of which is the Rothschild family, has declared a pandemic, the recommendations of which our government has saluted, and has certainly not been noticed in humanism and care for the health of people. So, the author, there is no need here to tell us about the humanism of our government and concern for the health of citizens. By the way, I took root under the pressure of the employer. Isn't this fascism? Not a direct violation of the Constitution? When our government starts talking about caring for the people, it means they will rob. Or kill. In the USSR, there was no such distrust of the authorities
    1. ban
      -2
      26 June 2021 10: 15
      All is correct
  46. -5
    26 June 2021 00: 13
    About Beroev, that frequent case when the actor thinks of himself as a moral tuning fork, but in fact turns out to be a dull fool
  47. +1
    26 June 2021 08: 28
    Quote: Yevgeny Fedorov
    It seems that the journalist Bozena Rynska expressed herself most accurately ...


    here it is - the bottom)))
    for the author, the authority freaked out on the whole head citizen kuritsina))).
    Egor is Right, No Forced Vaccination.
    “The public good is an abstract quantity and is interpreted rather broadly. But personal health is the prerogative of the person himself.
    The Nuremberg Code was also adopted in order to exclude experiments on people.
    In fact, today is the elimination of the human right to refuse medical intervention without his consent. The return of Nazi practices.
    And the fact that any crime can be covered up with a public good is well known:
    The public good (interests) of the German people - Dr. Mengele vaccinates concentration camp prisoners, puts on savage experiments.
    The public good of imperial Japan - the samurai elite of Detachment 731 calls people "logs" and vaccinates prisoners, puts on them savage experiments.
    The blessing of Big Pharma is that the fascists forcibly vaccinate people ".....
  48. +1
    26 June 2021 09: 40
    Quote: VIK1711
    Why the hell do irresponsible citizens ride abroad, and then everyone has to suffer because of this ??? That they cannot wait out the pandemic at home ???

    And close Moscow tightly !!!
    Nehru to spread the infection across Russia!

    Not only are Muscovites themselves spreading the infection to their dachas, but also the locals who work there are taken home. And it is not known who is more.
  49. +4
    26 June 2021 09: 48
    About the aggressiveness of those who are FOR vaccination.
    I'm for her. I was grafted. Effects: after the first injection, in the evening and the first half of the next day, the state of health was bad - "broke", but was at work and worked; after the second injection, I did not feel anything in the body at all. Approximately the same has passed with two friends whom I PERSONALLY know. I didn’t get into the debate about vaccinations, but when I got into a conversation on one of the chats, I spoke in favor and apparently didn’t please the most active ones - they just flooded me with "vidosikami", jokes and "authoritative" testimonies :-). He did not argue further.
    Why did you quote the word authoritative? Not a single personal experience, or even first-hand experience, was cited. Everywhere "a neighbor told me that a friend had ..." or "an acquaintance of an acquaintance who worked in a hospital told me ..." and the like. I am a skeptical person, therefore, such "evidence" for me is not authority, but rather gossip.
    I didn’t quite understand why, but there was still a lot of pride that “we are so persistent and don’t succumb to state propaganda”.
    In general, after reading and looking at the Internet, I came to the conclusion that now "from every iron" propaganda rushes against vaccinations, but those who, on the contrary, behave much more modestly.
    Let me remind you this is my personal observation.
    1. -2
      26 June 2021 10: 38
      "Now" from every iron "propaganda rushes against vaccinations, but those who FOR the opposite behave much more modestly.
      I remind you this is my personal observation. "
      if you read what they write here, you should know that inoculators are ready to shoot other people without trial or investigation. it's very modest, of course. and the authorities have already officially begun to divide society into "clean" and "unclean", which is also very modest
      1. +1
        26 June 2021 10: 52
        shoot other people without trial

        And anti-vaccinators are all quite often balanced and logical people, and in no case do they not allow emotional statements about vaccinated people? Emotional statements of a PRIVATE person are not an argument, at least for me.
        the authorities have already officially begun to divide society into "clean" and "unclean"

        I honestly did not notice this. As for the restrictions for those who are not vaccinated:
        in Israel, the court decided that your right to risk does not cancel the right of others to avoid it, so the court allowed at many places of work and in restaurants to refuse to provide services to those who are not vaccinated or do not have a document on verification for corona

        In my opinion it is quite sensible.
        1. -1
          26 June 2021 10: 57
          "I honestly did not notice this. As for the restrictions for those who are not vaccinated:
          in Israel, the court decided that B "
          that is, suspension from work, deprivation of livelihood - is it a concern for a person? on this topic and the Sands and the Ministry of Labor unequivocally spoke out. and what the Jewish court decided, so let the Jews do it, it doesn't concern me
          1. +3
            26 June 2021 11: 23
            that is, suspension from work, deprivation of livelihood - is it a concern for a person?

            I prefer first-hand information. I have a lot of familiar anti-vaccines. Some of them refuse to be vaccinated on their own, some even as a whole (100%) wrote a refusal. So far, no one has said that he was fired because of this. One friend only said that when she was hired, she was not hired due to the lack of a vaccination certificate, but this is the right of an employer, a private owner. I am skeptical about cases when they say that "I know for sure that a friend of my acquaintance learned from his brother-in-law ..."
            what is the Jewish court decided, so let the Jews do it

            I have provided this quote as an illustration of my opinion. I do not urge everyone to rush to execute the decisions of the Israeli court :-). But I also have the right not to contact those with whom I do not want, and it is not necessary to oblige me to this under the slogan of all are equal, both vaccinated and unvaccinated. I'll figure it out myself.
            1. 0
              27 June 2021 09: 12
              "But I also have the right not to contact those with whom I do not want, and I do not need to oblige me to this under the slogan all are equal, both vaccinated and not vaccinated."
              so do not contact, just do not contact, and do not force the majority to be vaccinated, do not understand what, so that you feel good. something similar to the presentation of lbgt
              1. -1
                27 June 2021 09: 34
                You are not breakable
              2. +1
                27 June 2021 09: 36
                However, here I have just voiced my observations, which do not coincide with what anti-vaccines claim.
        2. 0
          26 June 2021 12: 07
          Quote: Roman B.
          anti-vaccines


          And why is everyone talking about some kind of "anti-vaccine"? Vaccinations are one of the most important inventions in human history. So I am in favor of vaccinations in general - against measles, against smallpox, mantu, etc.
          But Putin's kukumycin Sputnik, assembled on his knee for several months, is not officially a vaccine yet, and of course I will not inject it myself, since the risk from the vaccine for me does not yet cover the risk from the terrible macaronavirus with a mortality rate of 0.3 percent.
          When, after 5 years, all the side effects of the Sputnik are revealed, having tested it on hypochondriacs, conscripts, state employees and other forced test subjects, when they cease to force the refusal of claims to the manufacturer with an injection, then, of course, it will be possible to consider it as a potential vaccine against the first strain of coronavirus ...
  50. -3
    26 June 2021 09: 54
    Quote: BAI
    Vaccinated. I will try to explain on my fingers. Unvaccinated - more intense carriers of infection ...

    too, on the fingers:
    1.Sobyanin said that the vaccinated were getting sick - unexpectedly (as always) a dangerous Indian covid flew in - it looks like open air communication with India helped (and ahead - Turkey with tourists)
    2., accordingly, it is necessary to stab the stabbed for the second time, until victorious)))
    3. Vaccination - weakens the body, it is a fact, a weak analogue of the strain causes an immune response.
    4. and now the cherry on the cake - the body is weakened, and here is a new, 2 times more evil Indian virus, if Sobyanin is not lying.
    5.And now the problem of sanity - who will get sick, a healthy, not vaccinated normal person or an organism pricked by phazinc and weakened, and yes - the mutation is always ahead of the creation of a vaccine, injected against yesterday's strain.
    to catch up - why did they open it, against the background of the "growth of diseases", air communication with Turkey - there will just trample new mutations, think BAI ...
  51. ban
    +1
    26 June 2021 10: 06
    Vaccination of Russian officials against coronavirus infection will be carried out on a voluntary basis; it will not be carried out on a mandatory basis. This was stated by the press secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov, an RBC correspondent reports.

    Read more at RBC:
    https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5fc75c5b9a7947782ff83279


    Any questions?
    author-->author-->author, how much did they pay you for this garbage order?
  52. 0
    26 June 2021 10: 08
    We are waiting for the ninth wave!
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  54. -1
    26 June 2021 10: 34
    The author holds Bazhen in high esteem and the Holocaust from every iron? - Then everything is clear, another Liberal Zionist order. And Beroev is a good guy.
    and who only allowed you to publish at VO....
  55. 0
    26 June 2021 12: 01
    Pure nonsense!
  56. +2
    26 June 2021 12: 34
    I found an article, the Hungarians, let’s say, counted, checked, and gave the results https://www.rbc.ru/society/25/04/2021/608587af9a7947343c043f1e
  57. -1
    26 June 2021 13: 12
    Let me answer a couple of questions and then I’ll think about it:
    1. The state increased the retirement age, taxes, destroyed access to education and medicine, destroyed medium and small businesses, hooked the population on loans and suddenly decided to take care of the population!
    2. The state is not fighting cancer, infant mortality, drug addiction, alcoholism, but the virus has become a fixed idea.
    3. Vaccines that have not undergone end-effect studies are experimental. And these are years of imprisonment.
    4. Rospotrebnadzor (former sanitary and epidemiological station) is one of the vaccine manufacturers, they are an interested party and also have the power to punish and punish (this is a monster along with the tax office). He also makes money from this.
    5.The largest production of masks in the country belongs to Sobyanin. Business and nothing more.
    6. As far as I know, the mask regime has been canceled in Chechnya and there is no news about vaccination from there)
    6. When vaccinating, you sign a voluntary consent, and therefore responsibly relieve those who inject you with it or force it)
    7. Explain to me the selective responsibility for the mask regime, when in a store or park I am required to wear a mask, but the top officials of the state, mayors, etc. do not wear them.
    8. Anyone who has been vaccinated is a threat to his family and can infect them by the way)
    9. Half of the patients in Kommunarka were either vaccinated or were vaccinated and fell ill again.
    10. Even the first vaccination is tolerated with a very high percentage of complications (numbness of the limbs, temperature 40, complications in the body, general malaise)
    11. For some reason, all the measures that the authorities are now taking are leading to a deterioration in either the health or the situation of the population.
    Can someone answer these questions for me?
    1. -2
      29 June 2021 09: 51
      I can add to this that no results after vaccination are collected in databases. Those. There is no clear data on how the vaccine affects a person. He injected himself and left. And then, maybe, he gave up after a day. Nobody will know.
  58. +2
    26 June 2021 13: 37
    It’s good that there are smart people in the army, everyone was vaccinated a long time ago. Civilians are bored, lack extreme sports, want to play roulette with their health, but the military has enough of everything without this crap
  59. +1
    26 June 2021 13: 52
    Our beloved state is ready to take away the last trousers from an ordinary citizen. And here is a generous gesture. Free vaccination with an expensive drug. The authorities are not saying something. Because she taught us - free cheese can only be found in a mousetrap
  60. -1
    26 June 2021 16: 07
    It’s not worth repeating once again about the complete lack of awareness of Russian citizens in the vaccination campaign.
    Again we got the wrong people, it happens......
  61. -1
    26 June 2021 16: 12
    For example, no one will hire a cook or teacher who has medical contraindications. Or let's hire people with severe visual impairments as pilots of civil airliners.
    What do vaccinations and health contraindications have to do with it? The author has obvious problems with logic....
  62. 0
    26 June 2021 16: 18
    Quote: Alex777
    Sobyanin has already been vaccinated again. He has no complications.
    Sobyanin can inoculate himself every morning, directly into his brain, and then chew on the curb tiles....
  63. 0
    26 June 2021 16: 52
    Quote: PROXOR
    For some reason I cannot get an answer from the vaccinated: Why are you so afraid of not vaccinated ?!
    I didn’t notice this trend, but I saw that vaccinated people repeatedly sabotaged their masks, which unnerved all the “mask wearers” around. I have antibodies and am also annoyed by having to wear a mask, especially after repeatedly declaring its uselessness.
  64. +1
    26 June 2021 16: 57
    Quote: geroy_333
    When, in 5 years, will all the side effects of Sputnik be revealed?

    What if they don’t open it? wink You did not listen/read carefully about the vaccine. It was created on the basis of an adenovirus and I don’t think that this happened by accident. I don’t think that this vaccine was “quickly riveted together, that’s why it’s bad,” but I think that developments from such attacks by our military never stopped, and it’s not for nothing that its authors have the Ministry of Defense .
  65. +3
    26 June 2021 17: 01
    Quote: Alexey Koshkarov
    Free vaccination with an expensive drug. The authorities are not saying something.
    Have you tried to calculate how much money the government loses from lockdowns? Much more than the cost of one dose of vaccine per working person! And if we add to this social benefits, treatment and similar costs, the amount will be an order of magnitude higher!
  66. 0
    26 June 2021 17: 09
    Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
    If you still don’t understand anything after my explanation, then there’s no point in talking to you.

    Judging by the number of minuses, he wasn’t the only one who didn’t understand. You wrote correctly, but in fact the topic is so slippery that you shouldn’t even try to convince people! And the fact of the refusal to vaccinate the GDP a year ago was very indicative, because there were reasons for this? Or was it not? And why did GDP decide to get vaccinated this spring? Or was it a placebo? Questions arise regarding any action of our government. The authorities themselves create distrust in everything they do and create this precisely by their attitude towards people, citizens of Russia.
    1. 0
      26 June 2021 17: 44
      It's not even about the power itself. Try to essentially answer two questions:

      1 If we assume (and there are reasons) that the coronavirus is man-made. Can we then assume that all new strains may also be man-made. How many times will you be vaccinated against new strains until your immune system completely fails?

      2 If, according to official data, there are only 42% of those who refuse, and 10% of those who are vaccinated, the remaining 48% are UNSUCCESSFUL WOMEN WITH PREGNANT ELDERLY MEN? Or are there REALLY MORE than 70% of refuseniks?
  67. -1
    26 June 2021 19: 49
    This happened with our vaccinations for several reasons:
    - weak government propaganda both in general and in terms of medical education
    - distrust of official sources by citizens (there are reasons)
    - a massive decline in the level of education which leads to belief in various nonsense and, as a result, to tragedies
    - the actor, of course, decided to show off, there’s no other way to say it - he’s literally a prisoner of conscience... He was literally forcibly deprived of something.
    -when they talk about the violation of the rights of believers, those who do not want to be vaccinated, they somehow forget about the rights of other members of society - who either do not believe or do not want to simply get infected...
  68. -1
    26 June 2021 20: 29
    It’s not even a matter of vaccinations, but the fact that hangers-on began to give in under the hood.
  69. +1
    26 June 2021 21: 32
    Quote: lis-ik

    Interestingly, but gentlemen who have been shirking know that they are ruining their immunity and now they will have to be vaccinated against this flu every six months? The first dose is free, it is possible that the second will be the same, and then it will probably be necessary to pay, or will the swindlers from the authorities continue to steal the money allocated by the budget for vaccination, distributing them to their pharmaceutical companies? Those occurring other than greedy scum, impudent from impunity, cannot be called a suitable word. However, this whole scam in the world was started for the sake of this! That they would be on a needle in life.

    Someone loses immunity (unless you came up with it yourself), and someone has a useless life. If it’s more convenient for you to lose your life (yours), then congratulations!
  70. 0
    27 June 2021 04: 28
    Quote: aglet
    "you do not want to be grafted forward into the" leprasorium "and at your own expense"
    cheaper to send you there - you are less
    Maybe straight to a concentration camp?
    Nazism starts small....(c).
  71. 0
    27 June 2021 04: 39
    Quote: Lannan Shi
    Things in the economy would be noticeably better than if they were actively concerned about the economy
    In the fight for good, we will leave no stone unturned........
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  73. -1
    27 June 2021 08: 11
    People! Explain to me, the dark one, please: who is this Beroev? To listen to him or not to listen.
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  75. -2
    27 June 2021 09: 42
    Let Yegor remember to stick this star on his forehead when he is under a ventilator, then let’s look at his body and work.
  76. 0
    27 June 2021 11: 30
    Evgeniy Fedorov himself writes in the article that with an increase in the number of people wanting to be vaccinated, a shortage of vaccines has arisen; if tomorrow we all come to get vaccinated, the current state will not provide us with such an opportunity in the near future. All this noise about Covidiots only shows the weakness of the system. They tell us to get vaccinated, but we don’t want to, so we are to blame, not them. Just close Moscow for a month, like they did in Wuhan, because all the cases in the regions are probably directly related to the number of shift workers working there.
  77. 0
    27 June 2021 11: 51
    modest question - author-->author-->author are you an expert in what? Maybe you think that masks and gloves protect at +35?
  78. 0
    27 June 2021 19: 47
    Those who do not want to be vaccinated must insure themselves against the disease. For the state, vaccination costs about 1000 rubles, and treatment of a patient costs more than 20 thousand rubles. Why should the state and I, as a taxpayer, pay for the treatment of a “don’t care” person?
    Insurance is a compromise, but a mandatory option. Get vaccinated or pay in case you have to be treated. Insurers have methods for calculating risk and the amount of insurance to compensate for risk.
    1. 0
      27 June 2021 22: 34
      Quote from conel96
      Why should the state and I, as a taxpayer, pay for the treatment of a “don’t care” person?

      Then, I, as a taxpayer-health worker, believe that the state and I should not pay for the treatment of boogers and smokers like you, who, unlike contracting the virus, deliberately destroyed their health in order to then suck money from us.
  79. 0
    28 June 2021 06: 41
    Covid demons are worse than sectarians!
  80. fiv
    0
    28 June 2021 08: 41
    As Lewis Carroll said through the mouth of Alice, “...if you drink too much from a bottle labeled “Poison”, you will almost certainly, sooner or later, feel unwell.”
    If you cross the street at a red light, you can get hit by a car. If you do not get vaccinated, the likelihood of getting seriously ill or dying will increase quite significantly. This is a kindergarten level problem - to vaccinate or not to vaccinate. For an adult this is small. For the sensible.
  81. -2
    28 June 2021 09: 39
    I will express my expert opinion. Due to the low qualifications of social experts. networks, not to mention some doctors, I immediately went to the gypsies.
    Lulaja, the world's leading expert on the fourth thorn in the third row of the corona virus, explained everything to me with the help of Tarot cards and immediately inoculated me with water charged from Chumak through the TV. Judging by the discussion, there are many people in this chat with the best Soviet education in the world, they can confirm that Chumakov water charged from Record B-312 leaves no chance for the virus.
    Now I feel protected even these days... I can wear white, but, on the contrary, not wear a mask.
    Important.
    To avoid side effects, do not try to vaccinate with water charged from the Kharkov TV. According to statistics from virologist Fifika, the most common side effect is the reproduction of Ukrainians under the bed of the vaccinated person; his sleep becomes intermittent and restless. Ukrainians tickle him with oseledki and shout glory...
    To alleviate side effects, it is recommended to sweep Ukrainians under the bed with a mop at night until the symptoms completely disappear (up to 3 days).

    Do not be ill. ;)
  82. 0
    28 June 2021 12: 02
    Who is this Fedorov anyway?! What is he allowing himself to do?!
  83. +1
    28 June 2021 12: 21

    I was vaccinated, I don’t encourage anyone to do so, and I have an absolutely normal attitude towards those who are not vaccinated (my wife and many friends among them). I did it because I’m afraid for my parents, who are 65+, I don’t care about the rumors about “CHIPPING”, “MALE FAILURE” (fortunately two boys are growing up) and so on, if there is at least a tiny possibility of not harming them, then this (vaccination) is for I'm justified.
  84. 0
    28 June 2021 13: 38
    Quote: Alex777
    Ahahahahaha!
    All reasonable people understand that there is no pandemic.

    What village do you live in? In which country?
    I have already buried so many friends and relatives in Moscow because of covid that listening to such nonsense is not at all funny to me.
    Have you seen funeral pyres on the streets of India?
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

    It's been said a hundred times about India - it's fake.
    How many friends have you buried? Do you and they have pages on social networks? Post links to their sites here.
    And so it’s a squeal from the noname.
  85. 0
    28 June 2021 20: 29
    !
    Looking at such, if I may say so, cultural figures, there is a strong desire to give them a shovel and send them to build some kind of canal!
    At least some meaning will appear in existence.
  86. fiv
    0
    29 June 2021 08: 58
    Quote: sektant777
    Do you and they have pages on social networks? Post links to their sites here.

    “Maybe I should give you the key to the apartment where the money is.” Quote from the novel “The Twelve Chairs” (1927) by Soviet writers Ilya Ilf (1897 – 1937) and Evgeny Petrov (1903 – 1942).
    What would you do there?
    But in our village no one has pages, but there are dead people.
  87. -2
    29 June 2021 09: 46
    “The only correct solution in this situation is the general vaccination of the population.” Who decided this? And why are all vaccinated people so afraid of unvaccinated people? Are you protected? Or is it not so simple? It is worth noting that leading experts are against vaccination, and mainly officials and vaccine manufacturers are in favor. Gunzburg announced six months ago that his vaccine works for 2 years. It has already devalued up to a year. Further more. Soon they will offer to get vaccinated before leaving home. Thanks, I'll get around to it somehow. Whoever wants to inject it is your right. But don’t interfere with those who don’t want to and have the same right to do so. We are not dangerous to you, you are vaccinated. I clearly see in this vaccine hysteria the desire of the authorities to pit people against each other and distract them from the catastrophic situation in the country with widespread impoverishment.
    1. 0
      29 June 2021 20: 55
      Torai Piksaikin, a therapist at the Tengushevsk District Hospital, has achieved the best vaccination rates in Russia. In this he was helped by knowledge of the peculiarities of the consciousness of the native Mordovian people.

      By the beginning of June, Tengushevsky district lagged behind even the average level of Mordovia in terms of vaccination rates. Almost only medical workers were vaccinated. To stop the spread of the coronavirus, drastic measures were required. Torai Obranovich dismissed forced vaccination at once - people in Mordovia are harsh and freedom-loving. Then he went for a trick.

      “Arriving at work in the morning, I put up a notice on the door of the clinic:“ The vaccine will be only for Jews, this is an order of the Ministry of Health ”. During the day, pensioners spread this news to neighboring villages and started calling me - why, they say, only to Jews? Mordovians die, or what? " - Torai Piksaikin told reporters.

      In the morning of the next day, outraged crowds surrounded the clinic, demanding to vaccinate everyone. When Piksaikin "surrendered" and announced that he agreed to vaccinate not only Jews, but the vaccine was not enough, the crowd elected delegates who counted Sputnik's supplies and began to control the queue. Elderly people, according to Mordovian custom, were allowed to skip the line.

      “We in Mordovia know that Jews always get the best. And if they grabbed a vaccine for themselves, it means that they know something about it. So they rushed to get vaccinated, even I could not stand it, ”explained the head of the district Olga Kutkina.

      Now in Tengushevsky district 94 percent of the population is vaccinated. The last Jew left Mordovia for Israel in 1993.
  88. fiv
    -2
    29 June 2021 10: 00
    Quote: anclevalico
    We are not dangerous to you, you are vaccinated

    You will have to be treated at our expense, including taxes, the cemeteries are urgently expanded, there are queues for the notary... One worry from you, the unvaccinated
  89. 0
    29 June 2021 19: 02
    About pilots and cooks - not our case. You are behind the times, Mr. Fedorov. A decree is being prepared that without a QR code it will be impossible to enter a store or transport
    1. 0
      29 June 2021 21: 56
      Question from a person far from medicine to people close to medicine -
      if a vaccination protects against a virus, then should vaccinated people be afraid of those who have not been vaccinated, and if unvaccinated people still pose a danger to vaccinated people, then this calls into question the meaning of vaccination as such.
  90. -1
    1 July 2021 13: 42
    the hysteria about mandatory vaccination has no basis

    So there is no need to force it. The article is stuffed with cliches and absolutely unproven and unprovable hypotheses. As usually happens in such cases, without having solid arguments, not wanting to conduct a dialogue from a position of sound reasoning, but wanting to force the other side to accept their opinion as quickly as possible and thoughtlessly act on the basis of it, there is pressure on the psyche with authorities and code words like DEATH! YOU WILL ALL DIE! obviously and not obviously.
    If people don't want something, have the courage to ask them why. This is a serious problem, it has split society, it is splitting families. People you don't count are dying from fear of the virus or the virus vaccine. All this is on the conscience of those who decided to “drive humanity toward happiness with an iron fist,” in this case, toward health.
    You will not have victory with such methods.
    Involving Jews is also illegal, because the author is trying to slip us yet another (Western) dogma, that if something “may offend” someone, it should be banned. Why on earth? A person has freedom of speech. It's still there.

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