"The first incident of this type in recent years": overseas comment on the violation of the Russian maritime borders by a British ship

Foreign media react to reports of the incident in the Black Sea. We are talking about the violation of the maritime borders of Russia in the area of ​​Cape Fiolent in the Balaklava region of Sevastopol. According to the means of objective control, the British destroyer "Defender" went deep into Russian waters for about 3 km, while not responding to warnings from the Russian side.

As a result, it was necessary to open warning fire in the direction of the British Navy ship by the Coast Guard ship. It is also reported about the use of aviation: the Su-24M aircraft carried out bombing along the course of movement of the NATO destroyer, after which it left the Russian waters.

In Britain, a few hours before the provocation in the Sevastopol region, they said that “the ships of the royal fleet will carry out missions in the Black Sea to support partners and improve security. "

The British media indicate that the Defender "did not violate the internationally recognized borders of the Russian Federation." This statement is explained as follows: “In the world, the Crimean peninsula and the adjacent waters are not recognized as territorial and aquatic units within the Russian Federation. Britain adheres to the principles of international law, recognizing Crimea as a part of Ukraine. "

However, not everyone in the West is unanimous about this. In particular, it is noted abroad that not everyone recognizes British sovereignty over the Falkland Islands (Malvinas):

And how would the British Navy behave if a foreign ship violated the borders in the area of ​​this archipelago? They certainly would not be greeted with a red carpet at the port.

Turkish columnist Dolunay Terman writes that "this is the first incident of this type in recent years between the ships of Russia and a NATO country in the Black Sea."

On June 18, HMS Defender entered the port of Odessa, where the Ukrainian side welcomed its crew with all the honors.

Comments

[Yurahip]

Well, they waited ...

[Orkraider]

They waited.
We did a good job in return. Smartly:

At 11.52 the Defender crossed the Russian border.

At 12.06 and 12.08 a Russian border patrol ship carried out warning fire.

At 12.19 the Russian Su-24M aircraft performed warning bombing.

Prompt response

[neri73-r]

“In the world, the Crimean peninsula and the adjacent waters are not recognized as territorial and aquatic units within the Russian Federation. Britain adheres to the principles of international law, recognizing Crimea as a part of Ukraine. "

Well, why did he turn away, he would come closer to the shores of the Crimea! These are not the waters of Russia! Bench press! He barked from under the gate, and when he saw the boots stamping at the muzzle, he immediately went into the bushes.

[Killemall]

yeah ... the mistress of the seas ... damn it ... some jackalie ... the phantom pains of two hundred years ago - all that remained to those who once yelled that Britain is an empire over which the sun never sets ...

[demo]

You shouldn't be so condescending to our sworn enemies.
The sun still does not set over the British Empire. Look at the title of Queen of Great Britain and where she is the Prime Minister. Though nominally.
But there is such a place in London - City. This is the location of British financial institutions. So they are the true stewards of the money in the world.
Which in itself means more than tanks and missiles.
These are the realities of today.
So take your time to kick the lying lion. He can just pretend to be asleep.
Until he has been skinned and stretched on pegs, discretion and caution must be exercised.
And prepare a blow.

[NIKN]

Britain adheres to the principles of international law, recognizing Crimea as a part of Ukraine "

In other words, the provocation was specially arranged and planned. Apparently, there will be more incidents according to the plan, maybe even more rudely.

[Blacksmith 55]

I think that was a good lesson. After all, they gave a clear signal, next time they will think before doing this.

[SKVichyakow]

It was evident that the reaction was checked. Two stages have passed, and the next move follows.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: NIKNN

Britain adheres to the principles of international law, recognizing Crimea as a part of Ukraine "

In other words, the provocation was specially arranged and planned. Apparently, there will be more incidents according to the plan, maybe even more rudely.

Today, over Sevastopol, the planes are roaring incessantly, being carried away towards the southern coast of Crimea. I think they will hound the Englishman, like hounds a mangy fox ... Let him take his feet back to his motherland.

[NIKN]

Which is confirmed.

BBC correspondent Jonathan Beale, who was aboard the Defender ship, reported details of the incident with a British destroyer off the coast of Crimea.

Beale's material states that when a British warship approached the territorial waters of Crimea, his crew was alerted, and the weapon was put on alert. “Defender deliberately intended to dive 19 km into the territorial waters of Crimea.

Read more at RBC:
https://www.rbc.ru/politics/23/06/2021/60d36b519a79475833febc1b?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop

[Volkov]

It is an amazing coincidence that the BBC reporter was on board at the right time.

[Alex777]

Everything is done on purpose and demonstratively.
How deliberately a howl was raised that our ships were coming close to Hawaii, although they had long gone.
Now I wonder what will happen during Sea Breeze exercises?
If they do not climb again, it means "the parcel has reached the addressee."
In any case, our soldiers need to be ready and not relax.

[private person]

Well, why did he turn away, he would come closer to the shores of the Crimea!

AND? World War III? Who needs it?

[neri73-r]

Quote: private person

Well, why did he turn away, he would come closer to the shores of the Crimea!

AND? World War III? Who needs it?

It wouldn't be. We followed all the warning procedures. And what do you think, if our ship had entered the waters of the Malvian (Falkland) Islands and was sunk, would our ship have hit London, and even nuclear weapons? Everything would be the same as with our downed SU-24. There would be tension, of course, but it hardly came to war.

[private person]

We followed all the warning procedures.

It is clear that Crimea is ours, BUT, after all, no one recognizes this except us.

[neri73-r]

Quote: private person

It is clear that Crimea is ours, BUT, after all, no one recognizes this except us.

It doesn't affect anything. If we are weak, they will come (and come to other countries) in our waters where the borders are unconditionally recognized by the world community. An example for you SMP. Part of it passes through our tervods, but the Naglo-Saxons talk about free passage until they poke around. Understand that a steel iceberg can be caught.

[arhPavel]

It is clear that Crimea is ours, BUT, after all, no one recognizes this except us.

Our borders are where we can defend them. Finnish, Norwegian, Japanese poachers kind of hint at this. In the 90s through the 00s, it was on the news. But all the rest of the Europeans were purple. And then oops .. how cut off. These poachers are more serious ... world retailers.

[Incvizitor]

In addition to you, the liberals, everyone understands this, even your western masters realized that in fact he was and will be Russian.

[Sergey Sfiedu]

We followed all the warning procedures.

The British, said they saw no bombing or warning shots. This is indirectly confirmed by an Air Force journalist, who writes that he observed the planes and heard the sounds of shots, but somewhere very far from the ship. If not lying (and most likely not lying - it would have turned out to be a cool reportage about aggressive bloodthirsty Russians), our people did not go into trouble.

[Barberry25]

"far" .. this is 1 km from the ship ... corny pouring into the ears

[Thompson]

Do we need their recognition ???
they do not recognize us, and we answer them de facto!

[Sergey Sfiedu]

if our ship entered the waters of the Malvian (Falkland) Islands and was sunk

This is unlikely. Of the anti-ship forces, they had only 4 Typhoon fighters with an unknown degree of combat readiness - since the Argentine armed forces are steadily degrading, the British do not spend much on the defense of the islands.

[Third force]

unhappy face, England does not need, they screwed up on a quick

[Kuroneko]

Quote: private person

AND? World War III? Who needs it?

World capital. There is no one to rob insolently without rebooting the world Aoi.

[fruc]

Then, instead of bombs, it was necessary to throw steel nets along the course in order to wind them around the screws and drag them to the shore, take everyone out and put them on the ground or put them in a certain position.

[smart ass]

I would have come closer and tried to capture the Crimea with a landing party))!

[Konstantin Sokov]

Didn't want to become the second "Black Prince" ...

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: Konstantin Sokov

Didn't want to become the second "Black Prince" ...

and there are answers to the "Black Prince" ...? !!! at the level of facts ?!

[kuzimka]

Dear, the destroyer did not turn away anywhere, walked along the course and walked to itself, and in x ... he did not put the antics of brave sailors on a pleasure patrol boat ... Let the steam in, in figs your clownery did not surrender to anyone ... I would like the captain of the destroyer to insert to all flyers and gallant sailors, he would have filled 30-40 heroes posthumously ... He was not there then. I walked along the course and walked ...

[Essex62]

Like the naglo-Saxons got tired of living, collective suicide? How many people there are at this tin can, and even zhurnalyugu to heaps. Well, that's too much. Precisely all not our "elite" accounts will be blocked. It was necessary to throw gifts on the deck. It's a pity I was not in Drying, to hell with epaulettes, for the sake of such a buzz.

[Pas2x]

Would you fill it straight?)) And then in five minutes a couple of "Granites" from the coastal battery under the waterline and orders posthumously? It's good that the Britons in the Navy do not have such couch heroes like you

[Vitaly Petrov_3]

We are resting in Feodosia..yesterday we were on the beach and heard three shots..that was exactly how they banged !!! Drown them ...!

[Proton]

Those. the incident happened today, and did you hear yesterday? Do not understand.

[For example]

And where is it written that it was today?

[Proton]

This is written in the official press release of the Russian Ministry of Defense (Internet for help).

[For example]

Can you throw off the link?
The time is indicated, but the date is not.

[For example]

Quote: Proton

This is written in the official press release of the Russian Ministry of Defense

Proton? Well, throw off the link to the source.
Where is the "official press release of the Russian Ministry of Defense"?

Or blown away?

Has anyone seen the official MoE statement?

And then the balabolov is a dime a dozen, and there is no real information anywhere.
Link to the link where the statement of the one who heard that the grandmas in the yard said that Proton Eugene heard that

in the official press release of the Ministry of Defense of Russia

they wrote as if they were shooting.

[Blacksmith 55]

Written happened on Wednesday. Today is Wednesday .

[Atlant-1164]

Well, so we trained !!! meet the foe ..)))

[Marconi]

It is also necessary to watch the news on TV at least sometimes, and not just sit in the net. Yesterday in the news they already talked about it, but you only found out about it today

[urik62]

Be careful there in the sun with alcohol!

[Barberry25]

these are fabs ... the fire was fired from 30 mm ... there is not particularly audible

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

the reaction is just not very prompt

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

yes, at least 10 minuses, reaction with a delay of 10-15 minutes, please specify the flight time of the missiles

[Cheshire]

What rockets, there was bombing and two warning firing?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

and I'm not talking about missiles at them, but them at us, for almost 15 minutes he was in our waters and no one was sniffing, forgive him and shouldn't have been allowed
and if the route of movement that is in the tyrnet is correct, then he went in and out himself, putting on everyone with a parting

[tolmachiev51]

read the text more attentively, otherwise you will immediately "fire to kill".

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: tolmachiev51

e-and then you immediately "fire to kill".

if 15 minutes is at once

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

minus players explain how much lemongrass turned away ?!

The Black Sea Fleet in its purest form overshadowed the provocation of the British

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

minus players explain how much lemongrass turned away ?!

In the next article, there is an EM track in the best quality - there you can see going beyond the terrain and bypassing them. EM RN did not go deeply, he struck along the edge - so he didn't have to go far.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

struck along the edge for 15-20 minutes?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

struck along the edge for 15-20 minutes?

[Light]

More details.

[Brturin]

More details, of course, but unfortunately the question is, but you can trust these cards ...
On the night of June 19, the automatic identification system (AIS) service showed a very strange path for NATO military vessels. According to the data, two ships - Defender and Evertsen - left Odessa shortly before midnight on June 18 and headed directly to Sevastopol, almost very close to the main naval base of the Russian Black Sea Fleet. At the same time, in fact, the ships did not leave the Odessa port all this time. This is evidenced, in particular, by live broadcasts from webcams that transmit images online on YouTube.
https://vz.ru/news/2021/6/23/1105456.html
The day before something happens with the "cards", then it turns out to be in "real life" .... the question is, is this a real picture or someone after "night training" now wants to give out their "version" ....

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

yes, at least 10 minuses, reaction with a delay of 10-15 minutes, please specify the flight time of the missiles

This is a normal reaction time. For comparison, here is the chronology of the most famous incident in those parts:

At 10 hours 45 minutes "Yorktown" and "Caron" entered the territorial waters of the USSR. The frontier ICR "Izmail" raised the signal: "You have violated the border of the territorial waters of the USSR," and "Selfless", "SKR-6" and "Yamal" began a maneuver to get closer to the Americans. "Selfless" caught up with "Yorktown", and for some time the ships were sailing in parallel courses almost close to each other.
At 11 o'clock 02 minutes "Selfless" shifted the rudder to the right and made a bulk on the stern of the "Yorktown" with the starboard side at an angle of 30 degrees.

© Aunt Vika
That is, 17 minutes elapsed between the violation of the terrorist move and the start of the military action. With that. that all the participants were next to each other.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

but here, as I understand it, no one was around, and as far as I remember, more time was spent on approval

[Marconi41]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

yes, at least 10 minuses, reaction with a delay of 10-15 minutes, please specify the flight time of the missiles

You don't know much about the procedure for using weapons by border guards.
First, the call is on channel 16 and not a single one. Then a 2 3 mile rapprochement and a simofor with flags on the MSS, then a green light missile warning, and only then a warning firing. All this is in accordance with international rules and nothing else. It also takes time.

[Loh]

We did everything right. For example: in December 1984, in Afghanistan, near Alicheil, a large force of spirits was discovered that drove up to the border from the Pakistani side. On command, they continued to observe until they had already gone 3 km on foot, and only after that they struck with "hails". The spirits were destroyed. And now imagine if you hit right away. The stench would be all over the world "Mama Don't Cry". They would accuse that they killed the civilians on the territory of Pakistan. And so is the guarantee. So here, too, they would start shouting that there was an attack in international waters. That's the reason ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Loh

on 3 km and only after that they hit with "hails". The spirits were destroyed.

these are somewhat different things, and yes, if after 15 minutes the limes were at the bottom, there would be no questions, but how the Englishman walked and how he got out raises a lot of questions

[Third force]

And what about yours, the Ukrainian aircraft carrier was not sent promptly to help

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Third Force

And what about yours, the Ukrainian aircraft carrier was not sent promptly to help

Well, if you are talking about ours, then from Baltiysk I would not have had time to get there, though there are no aircraft carriers

[Primipilus]

So what? The Defender didn't even change course.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Primipilus

So what? The Defender didn't even change course.

I changed it. I turned 20-30 degrees away and went beyond the terrain. It's just that the EM walked almost along the edge, so it didn't have to go far, and on a small scale this is not visible.
Here's from a nearby article:

[bk316]

Prompt response

No wonder everything is regular - there is 30 km to Sevastopol.

[AshPoseidon]

At 12.19 the Russian Su-24M aircraft performed warning bombing

It is interesting what the crew of the "Defender" felt when 4 bombs fell along the course of the ship.

[slipped]

Quote: Ash Poseidon

It is interesting what the crew of the "Defender" felt when 4 bombs fell along the course of the ship.

Relief?

[NIKN]

SVP-24 "Gefest" - an aviation sighting and navigation system on the Su24M is very accurate, it is difficult to put bombs in the wrong place. Here's why it would be easier to reset, there is a more significant error, it was possible to blame everything on the error.

[Brturin]

It seems that these 4 were already in the field and were waiting ... or else they would be hung up ...

[Turist1996]

It is known that: there is a queue in the latrine!

[Sergey Sfiedu]

The Britons said they saw no warning shots or bombing along the course.

[Turist1996]

Since the 19th century, the Britons have explained their cannibalistic habits by "bringing primitive races to civilization."
At the same time, spreading not education, but widespread fear and horror.
Britts in this - ahead of the rest!

[Turist1996]

Cho they said there - very bad! It would be desirable to deliver this ship to Novorossiysk. As an intruder.

[ccsr]

Quote: Turist1996

Cho they said there - very bad! It would be desirable to deliver this ship to Novorossiysk. As an intruder.

He had to first be cut off from international waters by warships, smart guy, and only then something to dictate to them. According to our testimony, they went 3 km deeper, there was no one near the border except for the border guards. This means that in three minutes they would have already left for the territorial waters if they had been informed that someone went across from them from the Black Sea Fleet ships. And how would you make him follow in intercity waters to Novorossiysk, verbiage?

[RED_ICE]

You forgot to add that a line of British sailors lined up in the latrine, who performed "carpet bombing")))

[Vita vko]

Quote: Orkraider

Prompt response

The accuracy is not very good. The bombs had to be placed closer so that they would need repairs after a water hammer.

[ccsr]

Quote: Orkraider

Prompt response

The reaction would be operative if, when this ship approached our terrorists, our anti-ship coastal complexes played a combat alert, deployed missiles and began tracking the target in combat mode. I think that the British in general would be afraid to come close to the 12 mile zone - at least they know that we can have an "accidental" launch, and only then they will apologize. Well, how was it with the Korean Boeing under Brezhnev ...

[Xnumx vis]

The violation by the British destroyer HMS Defender of Russia's territorial waters off the coast of Sevastopol is a gross provocation by NATO, says Major General Vladimir Romanenko, chief of coastal troops and marines of the Black Sea Fleet of the USSR and Russian Navy (1986-1995).

“I am convinced that at that moment the coastal missile units of the Black Sea Fleet were brought to full combat readiness. And for the destruction of this presumptuous ship HMS Defender it took two or three minutes, no more. But they - NATO - continue to test the strength of our group in Crimea, stressing in every possible way the non-recognition of the Russian status of Crimea and Sevastopol, ”Vladimir Romanenko said in an interview with ForPost.

https://sevastopol.su/news/dlya-unichtozheniya-britanskogo-esminca-bylo-nuzhno-dve-minuty-eks-nachalnik-beregovyh-voysk

[knn54]

Interestingly, will be announced (according to "tradition") targeted sanctions to border guards and pilots?

[alex neym_2]

Yes, the first "swallow" pinned, and on the tail there are three dozen more sick on the head - where is the place to determine for a ship cemetery?

[SLAVA]

Only not in the Black Sea, there is enough of this gomna there, enough to pollute it. We also lacked the British feces

[Real Pilot]

This has never happened, but here it is again!
Let's remember the history of the Crimean War of 1853-1856 with the Turks, the British, the French and the Kingdom of Sardinia that joined them ...

In English historiography, it is called the Russian war, in the French Eastern War (la Guerre d'Orient).
Times change, but the essence of politics does not!

So the answer to the question "whose Crimea" is clear to the British. They "sent a torpedo" to test our determination and readiness to defend the borders of the Motherland.

And at the same time for the formation of a profitable international news agenda.
Before that, they had been in Odessa, promised to "support territorial integrity" and "freedom of navigation", as always - symbolically.

[Bolt cutter]

In English historiography, it is called the Russian war.

In British sources, it is called exclusively the Crimean war. And in French (at least in the school curriculum) - La Guerre du Crimee, that is, also "Crimean" and not the mysterious "Eastern"
Don't misinform.

[Michael67]

At the same time ... And they are provoking and BRAV with air defense are trying to excite and reveal the frequencies. The Englishwoman shits as always.

[opuonmed]

impunity creates such a thing! what NATO wants and what Europe is doing!

[smart ass]

According to the NATO version, Crimea is Ukraine, so the boat did not violate anything

[Baloo]

Quote: Jurachip

Well, they waited ...

I am upset by the sluggish response to the provocation of the people. In the last century, the response was worthy.

[SERGE ANT]

"This is the first incident of this type in recent years between Russian and NATO ships in the Black Sea."

Yes, not the first, a year ago the same Englishmen were expelled already, though without shooting.

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[nikon7717]

Pro without shooting. Can for our border guards make unmanned armored ships battering rams for displacing such intruders outside the territorial waters. Well, there is a harpoon below the waterline for penetration to adapt ... Or like Captain Nemo Boer

[ZAV69]

to assemble the Potemkin body according to the old drawings, move normally and forward

[atakan]

Then if you do so immediately Flying Dutchman with a torpedo on the nose.
And what would be remotely controlled, and a Dutch flag and a big drum on the deck.
Everyone knows for a long time that these areas are very dangerous for shipping. There are sometimes mines from the war.

[Elena Akinfieva]

Yes, the border guards are always in order. There would be an order, and the rest of the details.

[smart ass]

Get busy in the evening do

[bk316]

Yes, not the first, a year ago the same Englishmen were already expelled.

Fact. And I think not the last.

[Thrifty]

It is necessary not to recognize Scotland and Ireland as part of britain, with all the ensuing consequences! To declare that we recognize the rights of these peoples to independence, that we are ready to help them to throw off the occupation yoke of Landon, and the naglichs will still build warships, there is more destroyer, less destroyer - it was necessary to sink it!

[lwxx]

Yes, they all admit, otherwise they would have answered. Since it would be an attack, not a defense. And since the guys quietly left, they understand that they are wrong.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: lwxx

understand that they are wrong.

they just do not understand this, but as Kheroinya of Ukraine said ...

[dzvero]

understand that they are wrong

No, the next will be the accusation of jamming GPS and disproportionate actions of the Russian side. Like, led into a trap and let's scare ...

[sidoroff]

Ireland seems to be a sovereign state since 1949, and Scotland decides such
questions in the referendum.

[mikh-korsakov]

Froggy! Everything is correct. My heart is restless when I think about the fate of Gibraltar. It is time to raise the people while the imperialist hand them over to Spain. Fraternal greetings to the Spanish people in their struggle for territorial integrity!

[Bolt cutter]

ready to help them throw off the occupation yoke of Landon

Are you willing to pay them 15 billion pounds a year in subsidies so that the standard of living in Scotland does not equal the Romanian one? London is easy.

[paul3390]

Well - to send a couple of ships to the Malvinas Islands? Who do the small-breds think they are? Do they still think they have the most powerful fleet in the world? Oh - no, so that a couple of bombs missed and right into their trough .. Completely insolent ..

[Vitaly Petrov_3]

They run into the underwater islands of Small Britain ..

[Aleksandr97]

It's time to find out how many lives of HMS Defender sailors the British principle of recognizing Crimea as a part of Ukraine is assessed !!!

[boni592807]

1. paul3390 (Paul), Today, 14:44, NEW, - "...Well - to send a couple of ships to the Malvinas Islands? .... The United Nations actually recognized the Malvinas (Falkland) Islands as Argentina ... "
2. Alexander97 (Solonin Alexander), Today, 14:46, NEW- "... It's time to find out how many lives of HMS Defender sailors the British principle of recognizing Crimea as a part of Ukraine is assessed !!!"


Wonderful THOUGHTS Colleagues , uhThat thought is desirable to convey to the citizens of Britain.
EspeciallyHMS Defender sailors themselves and their parents. Via the Internet, other foreign media (RT, etc.). And the officials of the Russian Foreign Ministry. Hado learn from partners and not miss their plops ...

[Horon]

“In the world, the Crimean peninsula and the adjacent waters are not recognized as territorial and aquatic units within the Russian Federation. Britain adheres to the principles of international law, recognizing Crimea as a part of Ukraine. "

So let's write now: in the event of the sinking of a British ship, Britain will have to appeal to Ukraine with claims!

[mikh-korsakov]

That's right. Since Crimea is Ukrainian, then let the British sailors rescued by our sailors in the crash of a destroyer as a result of a collision with a floating craft that accidentally turned up should be demanded from Ukraine. In the meantime, let them sit. If Britain recognizes the Crimea as Russian, then we will give it back.

[Awaz]

Proceeding from the fact that provocations against Crimea will continue in the Black Sea, why not use submarine miniature jihad - boats. It is worth damaging one or two English vessels (not really, but so for conducting survivability exercises in Russian territorial waters) with the ensuing consequences, I think the topic would be closed.
You never know old mines from the time of the Second World War in the Black Sea ...

[Horon]

It is easier to place a civilian vessel or several on the trajectory of the likely movement of the intruder, and in case of causing any damage to them, do what they did with the Ukrainian vessels. It is only necessary to record all actions, so that later they can be presented as an attack by an intruder on a civilian ship in the territorial waters of a foreign state. Moreover, only border guards should conduct a dialogue, and a civilian ship should portray blind-deaf-mute, ignoring any appeals of the intruder to him (as if the intruder does not exist) only creating serious problems for the movement of the intruder in the waterways.
It will then be difficult for the British to justify their actions by "freedom of navigation" where they will act as the main culprits of the state of emergency with a civil ship.

[Awaz]

Now I saw the BBC report on what happened on the British destroyer. In fact, with this report they openly admit that this was done on purpose. Moreover, before entering the territorial waters of the Russian Federation, they began to put their weapons on alert. The Air Force shows it openly. That is, it was an armed invasion.

[1536]

The British were pirates, so they remained pirates. Crimea, as a result of a popular referendum held on the peninsula, became part of the Russian Federation in 2014 along with the territorial waters, leaving the jurisdiction of the so-called Ukraine. The Black Sea should become the Boiling Sea for British pirates. They will not see the Crimean War 2.0, because the headquarters planning the pirate attacks are located in London.

[Vladimir_2U]

Safety enhancers, such enhancers are higher, but on the yard! Yes, by the neck!
And the fact that warning fire is opened is correct, it is enough to make heaps, and displacement by the corps.

[Vasya_Piterskiy]

Good day. At the end of the article, the following smiled:
I read that the British were met in Odessa with all the honors and below is a picture of a female pelvic part of the body in lace trumpets ... I thought the author so openly showed how they met, but no, it turned out to be an advertisement !!!

[Dude]

Quote: Vasya_Piterskiy

Good day. At the end of the article, the following smiled:
I read that the British were met in Odessa with all the honors and below is a picture of a female pelvic part of the body in lace trumpets ... I thought the author so openly showed how they met, but no, it turned out to be an advertisement !!!

Hehe
After the article, there is a block of contextual advertising, that is, they show what they are interested in when they go online from this device - queries in search engines, visited sites ... Be careful, do not sleep in front of your wife!
PS The main thing is that the pelvic part was not male, so everything is ok

[depressant]

Information from Wikipedia. So that the main operating object was clear.

HMS Defender (D36) (from English - "Her Majesty's destroyer" Defender ", hull number 36") - British destroyer type 45, or class Daring, Royal Navy. She is the eighth ship in the British Navy to bear this name. Construction began in 2006 and launched in 2009. After completion of sea trials in October-November 2011, it was commissioned in March 2013.

At 11:52 the destroyer crossed the Russian state border, and at 12:06 and 12:08 the border patrol ship performed warning fire, at 12:19 the Su-24m carried out "warning bombing" along the path of the destroyer. The OFAB-250 aerial bombs were used.
After that, at 12:23 pm, the destroyer Defender left the borders of the territorial sea of ​​the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Defense said.
The penetration of a British destroyer into the territorial waters of our country is being considered by the General Staff in line with the increasing escalation of tension between Russia and the West. Provoke, in a word.

[next322]

it's time to throw the Tu-22m3 from the shaykovy ....... from the X-22 ... the crew of the brits would be shit .... I

[Tagan]

... "In the world, the Crimean peninsula and the adjacent waters are not recognized as territorial and aquatic units within the Russian Federation ..."
Not recognized? And you have to admit. Otherwise, the diapers will not dry out.

[Jcvai]

Not necessarily, there are other options. For example, place weapons there, limited by treaties of the Russian Federation with those who did not recognize Crimea and Sevastopol as part of the Russian Federation ... START-3, etc. ... under a thousand warheads transferred to the friendly KVSN (Crimean Strategic Forces)

[Roman070280]

Not recognized? And you have to admit.

They used to say that about the Baltics too.
Do not wash. so by rolling ..

[Edward P.]

It is necessary to heat, period. Oborzeli

[Thrifty]

Edward II wrote about that, people do not want to look beyond their own noses! There will be a bunch of such provocations, tough actions are needed, you need to defend your sovereignty even by force of arms!

[tlauicol]

Filthy creatures. Nifiga are not afraid. And the provocateur has nothing to drive into the bochin

[Essex62]

Why not what? And the RCC? Their clown Borya was crucified today that they gave the order to invade our waters. Is it an armed invasion or not?

[rocket757]

"The first incident of this type in recent years": overseas comment on the violation of the Russian maritime borders by a British ship

Who do they have to seed now? Really the sirs themselves will risk, they could not push anyone forward?
What times, what morals ... sirs themselves have to substitute .

[cniza]

We will soon find out what is the next step, most likely sanctions, but everything has already led ...

[rocket757]

Sanctions, they are sanctions in Africa ... nothing pleasant, but by and large .... we will break through.

[cniza]

So we don't care about anything, but we want to be fine ...

[rocket757]

Want it ok ... is that too much of what we want? It looks like the sirs are clumsy, from our desire.

[cniza]

They grumble from the fact that we exist at all ...

[rocket757]

Yes ... for a long time and forever!

[cniza]

This is a question of memory, as soon as a new generation grows up, which forgets the lessons of history, everything repeats again ...

[Terenin]

Quote: cniza

We will soon find out what is the next step, most likely sanctions, but everything has already led ...

Hello. Or, as is relevant now - vaccinated
God knows we didn't want to. But they were interrogated.

[cniza]

They will finish badly, we will survive, but then what will happen. I know one truth is behind us, which means strength ...

[Well done]

Did you come by by chance? That would have accidentally put a 250 kilo bomb in the "defender", the pilot was mistaken by accident. And everything is RANDOM, but "highley like"))

[anjey]

The British carried out a deliberate provocation, especially as a coincidence, in spite of the international security conference in Moscow and the speech of VVP at it.
Ours reacted quickly and adequately, well done.
"Englishwoman", as always, shits liquid and drisly

[tlauicol]

As for the deliberate provocation - to the point. And about dryly - no. They are not afraid or respected. And they don't read fairy tales about the Khibiny

[anjey]

What do you think they didn’t sail further? Their "world community" didn’t recognize the sea borders ??? So it means they did not dribble little, for me these Anglo-Saxons just shit
Wow. The whole point of their "show of strength" turned into demonstration of powerlessness

[tlauicol]

Quote: anjey

What do you think they didn’t sail further? Their "world community" didn’t recognize the sea borders ??? So it means they did not dribble little, for me these Anglo-Saxons just shit
Wow. The whole point of their "show of strength" turned into demonstration of powerlessness

Where to go? To the shore? they did what they wanted, and not for the last time.
about the "demonstration of powerlessness" I agree. we can't stop it alas

[KCA]

They don't read the myths about the Khibiny, but they perfectly understand the state of the Donald Cook's crew after it was irradiated with the guidance radars of the Bal ballistic missile system, hell knows what to expect from the Onyxes, even on VO their characteristics were never announced

[tlauicol]

Another fairy tale to replace the old one?
Why then did the British violate the border? Are the batteries of the DBK sat down or the radiation sensors on the destroyer do not work? And what else will you think of when they come again and again?

[KCA]

Don't you think that different types of counteraction are used in different situations? In this case, a patrol boat hung on the destroyer's tail and the SU-24 was ready to take off, judging by the response time, it was already loaded, and the DBK could be in an unfavorable place for targeting and firing, Crimea, mountains ... Next time I suggested- to deepen 500 meters from the intruder X-22, the missiles are old, there are probably those preparing for disposal, warheads per ton, of course, not 18 tons, but the destroyer is not Gerald Ford, check, so to speak, the stability of the ship and crew

[tlauicol]

The rocket is not controlled by wires, after all, and the British will not wait where it will fly.
But large patrol boats capable of entering the board and driving guests into the dock will not hurt to have

[KCA]

The X-22 has 8 modifications, at least one of, if not the main one, with an active seeker, which turns on immediately after leaving the TU-22M3, it is possible not to undermine in the water, but at a distance from a kilometer, so there will be joy ship, when such a fool at a speed of 4-5MAX almost almost reaches and self-destructs

[tlauicol]

the reaction time of the complex is too long. and besides, this is not a joke, I repeat. how do they know where she is going? will begin to bring down her and the carrier. But an "ice-class" ship or a former seiner-frontier into the side - and after a couple of incidents they will begin to count losses and calls will stop

[KCA]

The range of the Kh-22 is at least 600 km, how do you imagine an attack by the British destroyer TU-22M3 flying in the airspace of Russia? What will shoot down the X-22? The speed on the march is officially named 3600 km / h, when diving to the target is much higher, two times. Are the Brits completely freaked out? How many MIG-31K YuVO will take off and be blown off by "Daggers", one "Dagger" - one destroyer for rags, two P-15 "Eilat" tore in half, the Brit should remember, and if there is a big booze, then Queen Elizabeth will be allowed to feed the crabs at the same time , the launch range is more than enough

[tlauicol]

600 km is good, of course, but how are you going to manage this thing? What to put in 1000m from the board? So they will shoot down, they will sort it out later.
A good crippling bulk is needed here. The ship is expensive and rare

[Kushka]

Do you think that the radar complexes of this ship
gently emit the scent of violets over the sea surface?
Do you think that the radar power of warships
of a class like a car keychain?
Do you think that the ship is on a combat course, in view of
enemy, yes, with an air raid, the radars are turned off,
and the whole crew in shorts lying on the decks?

[KCA]

At the Britons, everything is on the database, all the radars are operating in combat mode, they detect the takeoff of the MiG-31K somewhere near KapYar, in about six minutes they spot the Kinzhlal anti-ship missile division, and?

[Tagan]

Quote: Edward P.

It is necessary to heat, period. Oborzeli

For the first time, it’s enough (maybe).

[Gardener91]

On June 18, HMS Defender entered the port of Odessa, where the Ukrainian side welcomed its crew with all the honors. It is a pity that the pitchfork (trident) with gilding was not presented to the crew as a sign of parting words for the adventure.

[Tagan]

Interesting to hear the reaction of the brits for the sake of completeness.

[Dude]

Quote: Tagan

Interesting to hear the reaction of the brits for the sake of completeness.

They seem to have already expressed that they do not consider the water area around the Crimea to be Russian terrorist waters.

[Silhouette]

Quote: Tagan

Interesting to hear the reaction of the brits for completeness.

They said they had not noticed any bombing in Ukraine's hot waterways.

[Hyperion]

So they said that they had not seen or heard anything. No video, just chatter.

[Tagan]

Quote: anjey

The British carried out a deliberate provocation, especially as a coincidence, in spite of the international security conference in Moscow and the speech of VVP at it.
Ours reacted quickly and adequately, well done.
"Englishwoman", as always, shits liquid and drisly

There is a constant weakness.

[Alex Freman]

June 16. Russian Su-35 fighters entered the country's airspace without approval from Estonia, the press service of the Estonian Defense Forces headquarters said. At the same time, Russian aircraft were there for less than a minute, and there was no radio communication with the Estonian aviation service. However, the Estonian Foreign Ministry has already summoned the Charge d'Affaires of the Russian Federation and handed over a corresponding note of protest. Earlier, Estonian Prime Minister Kaya Kallas spoke about the "biggest threat" to NATO. According to her, this is supposedly a danger from the Russian side. She called on the forces of the Alliance to strengthen their position.

indeed, the probing is weak all the time.

[ODERVIT]

Brita in its age-old image. In short, scoundrels.

[jncnfdybr]

Something small-shaven lately have become impudent. )

[Vladimir61]

Well done! And it is better to drown the creatures so that they remember that it is better not to reach the state border for 10 miles than to be behind its line and be really attacked.

[tralflot1832]

Minusators from Ukraine, for you. What happened, the British de facto recognized the sovereignty of Russia over the Crimea, turning into neutral waters, after warning shots from our side. It remains for the Saxons to recognize the Crimea as Russian de jure. And we are deeply in their last recognition. The whole world with you will fight for Ukraine yourself.

[Graz]

it is necessary to heat. and not express concerns

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

at the same time the first news on the royal navy website
Rainbow flags flown across HMNB Clyde for Pride Month

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2021/june/23/20210623-clyde-pride

[Troll]

Very similar to the incident that occurred in the fall of 18 in the South China Sea. Where the Chinese "drove out" the Americans. Those declared the right to "innocent passage".
Anglo-Saxons, figleys. Everyone will not fight.

[Tagan]

Quote: Dude

Quote: Tagan

Interesting to hear the reaction of the brits for the sake of completeness.

They seem to have already expressed that they do not consider the water area around the Crimea to be Russian terrorist waters.

So far, only the media have been voiced, as far as I understand. And they have been promoting such a position for a long time. I meant the reaction to our response to the provocation.

[Igor Polovodov]

It would be appropriate and symbolic to drown it, not to drown it, and to throw a sewage bomb on the deck would be appropriate and symbolic)

[Vitaly Petrov_3]

Gomnome for shit ..

[Tagan]

Quote: jncnfdybr

Something small-shaven lately have become impudent. )

Well Duc, we haven't gotten on snot for a long time.

[Klingon]

Eh, it was also necessary to spoil the destroyer in bulk in order to be repaired

[yuratanja1950]

"the Su-24M aircraft carried out bombing along the course of movement of the NATO destroyer, after which it left the Russian waters."...

Hmm ... really interesting, but if HIM (the Englishman) had something serious in the corps?
So what ? NATO would open a war ???
The Englishwoman shits, as always ... She doesn't like the fact that Russia won't get involved in the war ...
If now we just express concern again, so every day they will be more impudent and more impudent ...
The bastard gopot must be hit first ...

[Irek]

It is a pity that electronic warfare, as against Cook, was not used.

[jncnfdybr]

Duc and so good. Four 250 rubles at the rate. I think that the deck will be washed for a long time.)

[Vitaly Petrov_3]

The diapers overflowed and turned away.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Vitaly Petrov_3

The diapers overflowed and turned away.

judging by the map, they did not turn away anywhere, they walked straight into the water and left

[isv000]

On June 18, HMS Defender entered the port of Odessa, where the Ukrainian side welcomed its crew with all the honors.

If he went there today, the cap would receive a Hero of Ukraine and the crew would be satisfied in every possible way! ..

[501 Legion]

garbage britain did one hundred percent provocation

[Markus wolf]

It is a pity ... It is a pity that such a mild response to the violation. After the appropriate protocol warnings, it was necessary to cut down the screws, take them into tow and bring them to Sevastopol.
They will stink anyway, but at least on business ...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I represent the joy of the chubaty! They are harem pants for joy, pull on their heads and will dance.

[Silver bullet]

Already the chubaty began to run down their thighs. Look at how they frantically put minuses to those who write "they say to cut the brits on the sopatka", and pluses to their "brothers" for any nonsense "Crimea is not yours, no one was scared, etc."

[Silver bullet]

To discourage those who send their warships to our terrorist forces, it is necessary to inflict unacceptable damage on them without the use of weapons. To scatter fishing nets from planes so that the propellers stand up, in the Be-200 which extinguish fires, pour oil mining with fuel oil and small metal shavings and pour it on the deck from above, it will flow inside and wash it out. Yes, you never know what there is for such "guests".

[Kushka]

Blowing out the PL fan tank (inadvertently) from the windward side, for example ...

[Rudauto]

So they will scream that their "newbie" has been hounded.

[Romario_Argo]

in short, we are waiting for the landing from the LPNR in Odessa - 2500 fighters will be enough

[Prisoner]

"I didn't break it." And what then quickly dumped, instead of what would "provide"? The trial ball is fired, the ball of the pendal is received. Now they will think it is worth putting big balls into business or better not to run into it. In any case, ours worked well and decisively. This makes me happy.

[fa2998]

Quote: RealPilot

In English historiography, it is called the Russian war,

So, when they fought in the Crimean War, Crimea was Russian, and their Prime Minister Churchill visited Yalta at 45, and Crimea was also Russian. NOW WHY NOT!

[markant1970]

British "pass" confirm, warning shots and bombing denies

[Vitaly Petrov_3]

In Feodosia, lying on the beach .. personally heard !!!

[Kushka]

Sorry for the fish (C)

[Dude]

Quote: markant1970

British "pass" confirm, warning shots and bombing denies

Just a good mine for a bad game.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Dude

Just a good mine for a bad game.

the question is who have us or they have
judging by the map and by the volumes that limes wandered with impunity in our waters so we have

[Dude]

We will see how they say in Odessa.

[kitpit]

Our ships need to visit the Malvinas Islands come closer the same way. Along the way, declare that we recognize the territorial integrity of Argentina.

[Dude]

Quote: kitpit

Our ships need to visit the Malvinas Islands come closer the same way. Along the way, declare that we recognize the territorial integrity of Argentina.

The idea is wonderful, but hardly realizable - to visit, alas, is banal, butеthan

[kitpit]

The Pacific Fleet will find a couple of ships for trolling small shaved

[Dude]

Quote: kitpit

The Pacific Fleet will find a couple of ships for trolling small shaved

Pairs of ships for such a long (especially for the Pacific Fleet, and since when does the Pacific Fleet go to the Atlantic?) Will not be enough. There and the ports are guaranteed to be entered only in Venezuela - they may not be allowed closer. Pervorangov, that on KTOF, that on KSF - the cat cried. A gamble, definitely.

[Al Asad]

When there was a bulk on the American cruiser Yorktown during the Soviet era, NATO also did not recognize the boundaries of the territorial waters of the Soviet Union. Moreover, in the same place.

[Kushka]

The Russian Defense Ministry said that a Black Sea Fleet ship opened "warning fire" at the British destroyer Defender, which allegedly violated the "Russian border" near Cape Fiolent near the coast of the annexed Crimea.
But in Britain they said that the ship was making a peaceful passage through the territorial waters of Ukraine, no fire was opened at it.
British Defense Minister Ben Wallace said that Russian vessels were monitoring the passage of the destroyer Defender and relayed information to its crew about a nearby exercise.
According to Wallace, the destroyer took part in a "scheduled transit" from Odessa to Georgia via the Black Sea. "As is normal on this route, he entered the internationally recognized traffic separation corridor. He safely left this corridor at 09:45 UK time (11:45 Kiev time)," Wallace said.

Well, where is the truth?

[Lew]

The question is why the Ukrainians were attacked and forced to moor, but these fagots, no? Didn't the captain have the courage?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Lew

Didn't the captain have the courage?

apparently not from the captain and not the courage, they stupidly missed everything

[Dikson]

“There were no warning shots at the Defender. The British Navy ship is making a peaceful passage through the territorial waters of Ukraine in accordance with international law, "- said the press service of the British Defense Ministry on Twitter.
Also, the press service noted that Russia carried out "practice shooting" in the Black Sea. The ministry did not agree with the statement that bombs were dropped on the path of the destroyer, as well as that warning shots were fired from the Russian side. So they didn't scare anyone ...

[cniza]

What do they think they themselves are their problems ...

[Puhly67]

Micro-Britons are bored in their swamp. missed fumitox.))

[cniza]

The British media indicate that the Defender "did not violate the internationally recognized borders of the Russian Federation."

We do not need confession, they will climb more, it will already be on the violator ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

and why will, why not ?!
for almost 15-20 minutes, the enemy destroyer goes unhindered along our shores

[cniza]

And what do you suggest ? Unleash a war? Everything can be done differently, as long as they warned ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

warned this when it was reported on the approach, and not when the tail wagged in pursuit
and not a war, but a suppression of the invasion of a WARShip in OUR ter waters, he could do everything that pleases him in these 20 minutes

[sleeve]

But this is how much you need to bend? Themirikans themselves did not climb (apparently there is experience). Come on, have they ordered it again, or do they have to leave the order for such a rant in the order of things?

[TermNachTer]

All repeats. In February 1989, the mattress covers were washed there, now the British, which cannot but rejoice)))

[Real Pilot]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

In English historiography, it is called the Russian war.

In British sources, it is called exclusively the Crimean war. And in French (at least in the school curriculum) - La Guerre du Crimee, that is, also "Crimean" and not the mysterious "Eastern"
Don't misinform.

Here is a historical background, no misinformation here:

The Crimean War of 1853-1856 (Turkish Kırım Savaşı), or the Eastern War (French la Guerre d'Orient), or the Russian War (English Russian war) - a war between the Russian Empire, on the one hand, and the coalition of the British , the French, Ottoman Empires and the Kingdom of Sardinia, on the other. In Russia itself, until the beginning of the XNUMXth century, the “French” name “Eastern War” was used, as well as the “Turkish War”, until the commonly used designation “Crimean War” was adopted. The fighting took place in the Caucasus, in the Danube principalities, in the Baltic, Black, Azov, White and Barents seas, as well as in the lower reaches of the Amur, Kamchatka and the Kuril Islands. They reached the greatest tension in Crimea, so in Russia the war was called “Crimean”.

[opuonmed]

Let's drown this again!

[zenion]

If you met Naglichans in Odessa, you probably dropped a torpedo.

[Dikson]

Just don’t say that to our Turkish friends, otherwise they’ll die of laughter... sea borders... and the Japanese... well, and the British and Americans...

[Name Surname]

Which patrolman of ours fired?

[ares1988]

Yes, it was just the first mate who came out on deck after lunch with pea soup)

[Growlers]

Until they drown or shoot down, all this “bagpipes” will continue. The people of Naglich remembered that they were once an empire... but alas and oh, now they are just a protectorate of the United States

[Rissa Gyristas]

Until the spelt clicks and the English are so thick-headed.

[rdmitriy6]

No matter how you look at it, the yats will have to be punched in the face, they don’t understand kindly. It is clear that the losses will be comparable to the Second World War, but maybe this is the meaning of life, in serving the Motherland?

[rdmitriy6]

You know what “floats”? And we know how to get rid of this.

[tralflot1832]

Cool. Merkel and Macron want to invite Putin to the EU summit. So during the day they forced the Defender by all means to leave Russian territorial waters in the Crimea region! And in the evening the main ones in Europe want to invite Putin. Is it really possible? We would then be before some NATO member fired on the course.

[Don Analyst]

The Anglo-Saxons are losing their last colony - Europe.
And they are ready to start a war in order to drag the Germans and the French and others like them on their side into the war with the Russians. And it’s even better for them that the Russians and Europeans grind each other down, and the Anglo-Saxons remain dominant.
This will be Nato’s last outburst, especially since the combination of the USA, Canada, Great Britain, Australia, and New Zealand is gaining momentum.

[Vladimir61]

If it was in Russian territorial waters, it was necessary to surround it with a dense minefield, force it to stop, and then force it to follow all instructions regarding the intruder’s vessel. Warning that refusal to comply with legal requirements means a military invasion, with corresponding actions provided for by Russian legislation.

[Cotton Colorado]

Quote: frruc

Then, instead of bombs, it was necessary to throw steel nets along the course, to wrap them around the propellers and drag them to the shore, take everyone out and put them on the ground and...

piss?

[Bez 310]

I would like to see a video (photo) of the shooting and bombing. So far the “shavers” are denying the use of weapons, and the whole matter looks somehow murky.

[Santa Fe]

It looks embarrassing

The data presented - trackers and photographic materials - allow us to doubt the reality of the story of the shooting and heroic bombing right in the direction of HMS Defender

The story of simple approach and accompaniment no longer arouses interest. We need to come up with fairy tales and feed them to the public

[Silhouette]

Until I see video evidence of the bombing, I won’t believe it. I saw only the PSKR, which was a mile behind. I am surprised by the inaction of the Black Sea Fleet ships. Fleet intelligence was unable to predict this expected routine provocation, and the Black Sea Fleet ships were unable to stop it. Another failure of the Black Sea Fleet command.

[Dmitry Kapustin]

The Russian border has become not a red line, but a pink one and will soon turn into a “rainbow”.

[xomaNN]

An absolutely correct decision with warning firing. Otherwise, as in Gorbachev’s time, they would have tried to chase the TFR and make heaps on the enemy’s EV. Thus disfiguring their ships. But normally, one Su24 bomber dropped a ton of bombs nearby and fired from a 30 mm AK PSKR. And there is a result. They showed that these are actually Russian terrorist attacks, and not, as on paper, supposedly Ukrainian... Ukrainian ones.

And the foreign countries, not just the Anglo-Saxons, will raise a howl in any case. And in the next “peaceful passage” they will think seven times about how to chart their course.

[Elena Akinfieva]

The negotiations went normally, in a positive way. And so it began. And the amers were also warned not to participate in the exercises

[Vadmir]

After the first warning shot, it was necessary to fire at the destroyer, not with a rocket; a burst of 30 mm cannon would have been enough. Otherwise they will repeat it more than once. And if they hadn’t turned away, they would have responded with fire, then drown them. In any case, no one will declare a big war.
Of course there would be sanctions, so they will be anyway. But they would start to respect.

[Oleg Nikonov]

The British had to be drowned right away, so that others wouldn’t be hurt. So many warnings!!!

[Tagan]

Quote: Hyperion

So they said that they had not seen or heard anything. No video, just chatter.

Well, of course, it turned out to be inconvenient - the gentlemen had to scramble. But there is a recording of a telephone conversation of a reporter who was on the ship at that very moment. Probably also chatter))

[Turist1996]

I believe that this should be followed by a summons from the British Ambassador to our Foreign Ministry with an ultimatum: “either Great Britain apologizes with the indicative dismissal of the ship’s commander from service, or this is considered a ‘casus bally’.”
And after this, England is considered an aggressor country that “brazenly trampled on the international sovereignty of a power.”

[xorek]

Quote: Turist1996

I believe that this should be followed by a summons from the British Ambassador to our Foreign Ministry with an ultimatum: “either Great Britain apologizes with the indicative dismissal of the ship’s commander from service, or this is considered a ‘casus bally’.”
And after this, England is considered an aggressor country that “brazenly trampled on the international sovereignty of a power.”

And recall Abramovich, along with his football club Chelsea, to Chukotka..!!!

[petrol cutter]

This will not be a popular comment. Moreover, he is a defendant.
No one (except for a few states that have little influence on anything) has recognized Crimea as part of the Russian Federation to this day. America, in general, says frankly that we will never admit it.
Hence the SITUATION. And I reported this to the gentlemen a hundred times!
UA doesn't exactly allow it. She welcomes the passage of enemy ships on her territory. And enemy ships consider these permits to be completely legal.
Here's a twist!
They go (in their understanding, wherever UA allows them) within their waters.
If they are allowed to enter Sevas, who can officially forbid them to enter? Maybe the UN?
That's who?
As I understand it, a meeting with Comrade Biden is a useless waste of kerosene on flights.
Such are the things. If you think a little...

[Borisych]

What will happen next? Dill will have to walk to Berdyansk.

[faiver]

a waste of kerosene on flights

- if only there was kerosene......

[Pavel57]

У

Quote: Intruder

Prompt response

Well..., Sushka and the patrolman are great, it’s not good for British destroyers to snoop around wherever they want!!!

What kind of guard was he?

[kig]

Nowadays everyone and everything is being documented and posted on YouTube, even if it is prohibited. Therefore, there are a couple of questions regarding the coverage of this incident:
- where is the video from our side? The sailors and pilots had to record all this, if only to prove that the destroyer was not hit and no damage was caused. Okay, everything is top secret here (they show the launch of the Zircon, but they don’t show it hitting the target), but where is the video of the British? They should have shown the whole world Russian deceit and unprofessional behavior. Indeed, there is a video of a “routine flight of HMS Defender (D36) Type 45” from Odessa somewhere to Georgia (the specific port is not named). A BBC correspondent was on board, and this is what he tells us and the whole world.
Our ship appeared, I think it was one of 22160

Our border guards appear

Here he is very close, and it is clear that the gun is in a completely neutral position

Somewhere in the distance they are shooting, but nothing is visible

Drying appeared

But where are the bombs?

By the way, the incident was just broadcast on TV (24/06/2021 0300ІСК), but there was no mention of shooting or bombing.

[Gnefredov]

The comments on the article are depressing (except for three or four sober heads). The ship definitely had to be sunk.
Now we will get a violation of the borders from the Baltic to Sakhalin.
The chance to postpone 4-WAR indefinitely was missed.

PS They will have us now in all friods and harbors.

UPD. The BBC writes that: https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-57582958
There was nothing. What a dramatic difference in ratings.

[Armen Sologyan]

It was necessary to subject the British ship to harsh Russian electronic warfare systems, including infrasound and something else, but so that it would not be fatal, but would have a sobering effect. The fact that Crimea is not recognized as part of the Russian Federation is historically the case; many times throughout history, the alliances of Turkey, Britain and others who joined them tried to take Crimea away from Russia, which was annexed to Russia by Great Catherine for constant raids on the border territories of the Russian Federation. Empire, and Khrushchev made a gift not only for the future new Ukraine, but also for those who wanted to have naval bases on the border with Russia. That’s why they quickly gave US citizenship to Khrushchev’s son as gratitude to his father’s tricks!!!

[Igor Makarov]

If it was our waters that needed to be drowned!

[Volder]

Quote: Igor Makarov

If it was our waters that needed to be drowned!

For what? There was no threat. Who knew at that time - maybe it was just a mistake? Russia is showing the whole world how to act in such situations.

[Igor Makarov]

Some kind of stupid tolerance on our part)

[Don Analyst]

The Anglo-Saxons are losing their last colony - Europe.
And they are ready to start a war in order to drag the Germans and the French and others like them on their side into the war with the Russians. And it’s even better for them that the Russians and Europeans grind each other down, and the Anglo-Saxons remain dominant.
This will be Nato’s last outburst, especially since the combination of the USA, Canada, Great Britain, Australia, and New Zealand is gaining momentum.

[Uncle_2]

Precautionary sinking could possibly change the relationship between the two countries in a friendly direction.

[Victor Leningradets]

The only radical means of solving territorial problems in the Black Sea is the complete forced return of the territory of Ukraine and Moldova to the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation. There will be no NATO bases on our territory - there will be no conflicts.
The establishment of strong good neighborly relations with Great Britain is possible only if the Russian Armed Forces enter the English Channel and Norway coasts.

[933454818]

And what will this change? “The entire civilized world” will not recognize Russia within the borders of these states for another 20 years.

[Victor Leningradets]

Quite the opposite!
After the SVD occupation of Czechoslovakia in 1968, IN SIX HOURS, the “entire civilized world”, having changed diapers, ran to engage in “détente,” which later, however, turned into “perestroika.”
They won’t admit it, but they will stop being rude.

[ares1988]

Will there be evidence of the use of weapons? Or should the RF Ministry of Defense be taken at its word?

[Volder]

Quote: ares1988

Will there be evidence of the use of weapons? Or should the RF Ministry of Defense be taken at its word?

That is, you don’t take the word of the Russian Defense Ministry, but you take the word of all other foreign defense forces? You’re not expecting evidence of foreign information, are you?

[ares1988]

Taking the RF Ministry of Defense at its word means not respecting yourself (after “this is not an Apache in Afghanistan, this is an Mi-28 in Syria” for example). In general, according to faith, this is not for me, this is for the church. I am for knowledge. And within the framework of this approach, proving that they were not shot at is akin to proving the absence of Russell’s teapot. The Russian Defense Ministry used weapons - let them prove their heroism. Otherwise, without proof, one can declare the defeat of the 6th US Fleet. Take my word for it, yeah.

[Dave36]

What actually happened? For the entire progressive world, a NATO warship passed through the waters of Ukraine... It passed and essentially without changing course - it left... Was there bombing? Well, who knows...the video was never shown. What is it - boundaries are sacred? Our unarmed bomber touched the Turkish border with its wing - we know the result... And here, according to our version, a NATO warship passed THREE km deep into our border... At least block... the command to remove... but there is no spirit... What kind of Crimea is ours...There are no Russian banks...no operators...no water...Money is pouring into palaces...We'll see how their naval exercises go...we don't have any red lines...

[Volder]

Quote: Dave36

did it happen? For the whole progressive world

What makes you think that all representatives of the progressive world are progressive? Apparently, Russia is not a progressive country for you, but Ukraine, the Baltic countries and other third world countries are progressive. In general, the criterion of progressiveness is not clear. You are mixing progress and politics, and this is absurd.

At least block... the command to remove... but I don’t have the spirit...

There is a spirit, but Russia fundamentally does not become like Turkey, but rather shows the whole world how to behave in such situations.

What kind of Crimea is ours... There are no Russian banks... no operators... no water...

1. Crimea is ours. 2. There are banks and water in Crimea.

Money pours into palaces...

You know little about the construction of Russian infrastructure and enterprises. Because you are not interested. But you, like a sponge, absorb negativity about Russia, rejoicing at the unfriendly actions of other countries.

[Essex62]

Construction is certainly underway, in some places. Where to milk the budget, where the interest margin is a thousand. Just not where people need it.

[Dmitry Razor]

And now there is an option for how they can “submit” this - “Russian ships in the territorial waters of Ukraine attacked a British ship,” and stretch it all the way to piracy. After which, by dragging the owl on the globe like a cat, sanctions are introduced and the arrest of all ships flying the Russian flag is allowed.
For some reason, commentators don’t see this option.
What if they opened fire to kill? I think something similar might be ready to be launched "in the right structures".

[Volder]

Quote: Dmitry Razor

authorizes the arrest of all ships flying the Russian flag.

It is prohibited to arrest a ship, especially a commercial one, without violating the laws. This will be considered piracy. Violating international law in order to force others not to violate international law is absurd.

[Volder]

It is strange that Ukraine did not make a claim about the invasion of its supposedly internal waters.

[K-50]

British media reports indicate that Defender “did not violate the internationally recognized borders of the Russian Federation.” This statement is explained as follows: “In the world, the Crimean peninsula and the adjacent waters are not recognized as territorial-aquatorial units within the Russian Federation.

And on the ship themselves, Crimea is designated as Russian territory!!!
Yesterday there was a picture on one of the TV channels.

[Orca]

Quote: Dave36

...we don't have any red lines...

Uh... brother...
You don't have any red lines. But here, orca, the decree is different - anyone who steps beyond the line must be dismembered and eaten.

[933454818]

On June 18, 4 warships entered the port of Odessa and immediately several Ukrainian statesmen flew to the warship that entered the port in a helicopter quickly rented from some oligarch. Apparently they were informed that now Her Majesty’s ship would provide protection and safety of navigation near the island of Crimea, and on June 23 Defender went on a combat mission.

[Thompson]

Apparently in Ukraine they were pollinated by their dibilism.
It’s strange that they weren’t putting pots on their heads during the incident.

[polar bear]

British ships located off the Russian coast must know and be guided by the borders of the Russian state, since a 250 kg high-explosive bomb does not care about the non-recognition of the Russian border by the international community.

[stas-xnumx]

It’s not clear why our electronic warfare systems didn’t blind their electronics??? After all, then it was possible to play with them, with the blind and deaf, and so, they didn’t just come in, there were a bunch of stopwatches and timers turned on, how deep they went to us, how quickly our ships approached, how quickly the Air Force reacted, everything this is clearly recorded, and a certain base is created for the future to guide the same invasion, for example... And this is closer than we think. And how many of these were and will be? We still don’t know much... Therefore, drown them or at least electronically jam them completely, so that they get hooked somewhere on the bank with their keel up...

[Ilya Aksyonov]

“In the world, the Crimean peninsula and the adjacent waters are not recognized as territorial and aquatic units within the Russian Federation. Britain adheres to the principles of international law, recognizing Crimea as a part of Ukraine. "
Yes that's right! But, in this demagogic casuistry there is one subtlety that no one should not notice or ignore. If you navigate waters that you consider Ukrainian, then do not be surprised that the missiles and shells that will destroy you will be Russian. Such is the dialectic of reality!