The United States attracted Russian and Ukrainian planes to take out Pentagon property from Afghanistan

The United States continues to withdraw its military contingent from Afghanistan. At the same time, for the export of weapons and equipment from the territory of this country, the Americans use the services of Russia and Ukraine.

As follows from the data of the Flightradar service tracking movement aviation all over the world, the Pentagon has attracted aircraft of the Russian Volga-Dnepr airline and the Ukrainian Antonov to remove its property from Afghanistan. An-124 Ruslan and An-225 Mriya.

According to reports, the Russian AN-124-100 Ruslan RA-82047 of the Volga-Dnepr company flew from Dubai (UAE) to Kabul on the night of June 22-23, after which it proceeded from Kabul to Islamabad (Pakistan). There is no data on the cargo, but it is associated with the activities of the US troops.

In parallel with the Russian "Ruslan", the Ukrainian "Mriya" (An-225) went to Kabul, which recently completed its repairs. The plane took off from Kiev, heading for Kabul, after landing at the airport of the Afghan capital, it also flew to Pakistan, but not to Islamabad, but to Karachi, where it landed safely. The cargo is also not specified, but with a high probability it is something oversized.

The flight of aircraft to Pakistan is not entirely clear, since earlier in Islamabad the United States refused to deploy American troops on its territory, as well as to deploy military bases. Or it is possible that we simply do not know something. At the moment, no official comments have been received from either side.

Comments

[knn54]

Ruslan, Mriya. This is not a departure, this is an escape

[Starover_Z]

Quote: knn54

Ruslan, Mriya. This is not a departure, this is an escape

And what didn’t attract your air "trucks"? Is it expensive to hire and pay insurance?
And even the multivolume package of sanctions against Russia does not work here ?!

[Prisoner]

Looks like they are asking too much for the risk, or there are no suitable "heavy trucks" of their own.

[APASUS]

Quote: Captive

Looks like they are asking too much for the risk, or there are no suitable "heavy trucks" of their own.

They save their resources and people, and given that the United States prints dollars, these services cost them nothing

[Prisoner]

Still, I am inclined to think that there are no "heavy trucks" of their own, capable of doing this job.

[Vasya_20]

Ask how many Americans have cargo (cargo) Boeing 747s of all modifications or C-5 Galaxy, similar to Ruslans, both in the civilian fleet and in the Air Force!

[bobba94]

I know a little about their mentality .... the British and the Americans worked in our company. If loading something and transportation on a donkey costs less than freighting a crane and a truck, they will hire a donkey driver and do not care about decency, company image and other crap ...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I also often came across foreign carriers. The main thing for them is profitability. Sometimes they try to heat it up. Especially the British. Cowardly, outside their country. He explained to one captain that he was a man in England. We have it - an empty space. And will fulfill all the requirements of my country. Otherwise, I will arrange trouble and will fly into a fine and the leadership of the campaign will arrange for him. Shut up in a moment ...

[Prisoner]

Boeing and the S-5 need to push their hard enough to get closer to the Ruslan in terms of range and carrying capacity and become similar. I will not say anything about the An-225 out of a sense of compassion.

[Vasya_20]

In general, I wrote about Ruslan and C-5 Galaxy, talking about very similar parameters and flight characteristics, and not about Mriya and 747 Boeing. And show me how they differ greatly from each other, if both have a carrying capacity of about 120 tons, and that the practical range (about 4500 km), that the speed (850-900 km / h), that the "ceiling" (about 11000 m) they are also similar. They even look similar and our Ruslan was created as a response to their C-5 Galaxy. So there is no need to pretend to be who you are not, showing your outright stupidity!

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Vasya_20

I actually wrote about Ruslan and C-5 Galaxy, speaking of very similar parameters and performance characteristics

".... By the summer of 73, the US Air Force received 81 units of a new military transport aircraft. The Ministry of Defense decided to equip 4 squadrons with them. At that time, the C-5A was the main aircraft for the rapid transfer of manpower and heavy equipment from one point to another. Although according to the data the aircraft could carry more than 100 tons, due to the insufficient strength of the wing, the possible load was reduced to 79 tons. The carrier transported a cargo weighing 77 tons over a distance of 8700 km. The flight weight of the aircraft was reduced from 349 tons to 323 tons. The glider resource was also reduced. from 30 estimated hours to 000 flight hours ...

...... Due to the weak design of the C-5A wing, Lockheed began designing a new load-bearing surface. For this, the US Congress in 1974 approved the relevant bills. The transport aircraft received a complete revision only in 1980. In 1983, the aircraft began to be transferred to the Air Force units. The operation of the aircraft has increased.
__During the modernization, the old engines were replaced with new TF39-GE-1C with a thrust of 19,500 kgf. The radio-electronic equipment was updated. We installed a new meteorological radar with a multi-color display, a Delco inertial navigation system and a MADARII system of recorded flight parameters.
__Based on the results of the work carried out, the designers managed to achieve an increase in the carried weight by 9 tons and the fuel reserve by 6 tons. For 5 years, starting from 82 years, the company managed to modernize 77 aircraft in operation. For the country's budget, the event cost $ 1,4 billion.
__The modified C-5A set several records. Directly to an altitude of 2000 m, the aircraft was able to lift a cargo weighing 110 tons with a maximum take-off weight of 417 tons, and a landing weight of 397 tons. But this result was interrupted by the Soviet-Ukrainian An-124 Ruslan aircraft. In 1985, he was able to lift a load weighing 171 tons to a height of 11 m ...........

Carrying capacity (comparison according to passport data?)

Everything is simple: the more and further you can carry the cargo, the better. For the An-124, the maximum carrying capacity is 120 thousand kilograms, which it can throw at 4800 kilometers. If the load is smaller, for example 80 thousand kilograms, then it will fly farther - as much as 7500 kilometers.

What will the American answer? Surprisingly accurate numbers - 118 kilograms will be the maximum payload, and it can be delivered to 387 kilometers. If less, then, accordingly, further. For a weight of 4440 thousand kilos, the range will already be more than 50 thousand kilometers. The planes are very close in this parameter. Only the ferry range of the An-10 is higher - 124 kilometers versus 15 for the American. But long distance flights on empty planes is a very strange "sport" ........ "
https://pilotprof.ru/pro-samolety/c5-galaxy.html

[bayard]

Quote: Bad_gr

For the An-124, the maximum carrying capacity is 120 thousand kilograms, which it can throw at 4800 kilometers. If the load is smaller, for example 80 thousand kilograms, then it will fly farther - as much as 7500 kilometers.

As far as I remember, when the AN-124 was shown to the world and presented at an exhibition in France, the maximum carrying capacity was not only declared, but also demonstrated - 150 tons. With a rise to nominal altitude and a flight of 4500 km. (the C-5A had a max. carrying capacity at that time was 111 tons). And immediately after returning from the exhibition, An-124 set a new record for carrying capacity = 171 tons with an ascent to an altitude of 4500 m and a flight to a distance (if I am not mistaken) of 2000 km. And it was kind of like in 1986 - 87. The restriction to 120 tons was apparently introduced later - according to the results of operation or to please the "partners" in order to make it pleasant.
And the An-124 also has a landing / passenger compartment (above) for 100 people.

[Normal ok]

Quote: Vasya_20

Ask how many Americans have cargo (cargo) Boeing 747s of all modifications or C-5 Galaxy, similar to Ruslans, both in the civilian fleet and in the Air Force!

If "Mriya" - then 100% oversized cargo.

[Vasya_20]

Well, no one argues with this, tk. "she's the only one" (c).

[Normal ok]

Quote: Vasya_20

Well, no one argues with this, tk. "she's the only one" (c).

I wonder what there could be "oversized"?

[Cananecat]

Quote: Starover_Z

And what didn’t attract your air "trucks"? Is it expensive to hire and pay insurance?
And even the multivolume package of sanctions against Russia does not work here ?!

They know how to count money. Theirs will probably be more expensive, and there will be no rollback. ))
The same sanctions do not prevent them from purchasing space engines.

[Vasya_20]

It seems that they have already finished supplying the RD-180 under the previous 20-year contract, having sent the last 6 engines to the United States on April 14 this year. And so yes, over 20 years they sent them as many as 122 pieces. - this is such a "confrontation" and hepolytic opponents!
This is called, as the Jews in Odessa like to say: "We are at war here - we trade here, but here we wrap the fish" !!!
https://www.roscosmos.ru/30779/

[seregatara1969]

There should be sanctions against the United States, but there are none.

[Real Pilot]

Why not help?
This is both money and information. On the contrary, it is better to have an idea of ​​where that flew!
And the loaders will come special, noticing everything ... And the pilots will also work out the routes for a reason, they will suddenly come in handy.

The cargo is unknown only to the press, the airline will not be lucky without air waybills (Air Waybill), especially military cargo. Moreover, the rules of passage through the airspace of other countries for such traffic are very strict, requiring approval.

[GREG68]

In principle, this is a sound idea. Maybe that's how it is. Only I think the movers there were American, but the crew was instructed by the relevant structures

[alex neym_2]

How could Yanukovych with his "70th" planes ... steal, so steal, and take out - so heavy trucks ... and Mriya finished repairs during the repair ...

[Thrifty]

The Yankees threw a military handout to the Pakistanis, at the same time teasing the Chinese, I think so. ...

[rocket757]

The United States attracted Russian and Ukrainian planes to take out Pentagon property from Afghanistan

They are in a hurry to dump ... they are hot, not childish, it seems.

[dzvero]

Even in a hurry, they do not forget who is worth what:

the Ukrainian "Mriya" (An-225) also went to Kabul ......... The cargo is also not indicated, but with a high probability - this is something dimensional.

So that there is no shrinkage-weariness along the way, and it would not be lost at all ...

[rocket757]

Leaving something valuable, important, lethal to the Afghan government forces is to provide / arm the same barmaley and VERY SOON.
It happened more than once.

[igorspb]

Our planes with their property must be planted with us)))

[Wedmak]

Yes, I wonder of course .. you don't have enough of your own trucks? Or is everyone busy with the export of cocaine in full in reserve?

[Charik]

they carry kokashi from South America, and from Afgan heroic

[Alexga]

All this is strange. That NATO is enemies, and here we help them. Interestingly, when there is a war, will we shoot blanks? It turns out to be an innocent multi-vector. Maybe you should weaken the enemy by any means?

[Kushka]

So this is weakening.
Carry twelve tons of NATO underpants
and not work at all. And the big money for the Pentagon
hit. And there and kirdyk budget of the Pentagon is not far off
(Afghan, essesno)

[Ruslan Sulima]

Money, just money) Information is good, but I doubt that the operator and the pilots themselves got access to the nomenclature of the transported cargo.
And so, to whom the war, to whom the mother is dear, how many have already been clocked in the place ... Capital rules, he does not care the laws of the state, trouble ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWHk9FVi2Bw

[paul3390]

when there is a war, we will shoot blanks

It looks like we will sell them cartridges, grub and fuels and lubricants .. With such and such rulers - no wonder.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: paul3390

It looks like we will sell them cartridges, grub and fuels and lubricants

And we are already selling, and the rulers have nothing to do with it. Commercial firms are sold in accordance with the law. Capitalism in our country is the people who chose it. By the way, the people also chose the rulers.
And if someone doesn't like something, there will be new elections so soon, propose, choose, what is the problem?

[paul3390]

so soon new elections, propose, choose

It's funny .. Although the level of joke is about the same as Petrosyan's ..

[Humpty]

Quote: paul3390

It looks like we will sell them cartridges, grub and fuels and lubricants.

And on whose kerosene did they fly from Manas to Afghan for years? Suggest?

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: AlexGa

That NATO is enemies, but here we are helping them.

Who is helping?
Where do we help?
How do we help?
The airline contracted to fulfill a commercial order, for money. It's just her normal job.
If she had not contracted, competitors (Ukraine) would have contracted and the money would have gone to them. This would just be helping the enemy.

[Vasya_20]

You have a reinforced concrete logic, I look, and you can adjust everything about everything to any carbon copy in order to justify all this indecency!
I already wrote above what it is called: as the Jews in Odessa like to say: "We are at war here - we trade here, but here we wrap the fish" !!!

[Jacket in stock]

Are we fighting ?!
And the men do not even know (s).

[Vasya_20]

And on June 22, 1941, someone officially declared war on us?
Do not worry, soon we will already really fight, and not hybrid and informational, and you, and people like you, continue to dream that this will not affect you and will "carry you"!
Not the first swallow has already arrived today. It's only the beginning!!!
https://topwar.ru/184350-rossijskij-storozhevoj-korabl-otkryl-predupreditelnyj-ogon-po-britanskomu-jesmincu-d36-defender.html

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Vasya_20

On June 22, 1941, did someone officially declare war on us?

Well, then we also traded.
Bread, oil and much more.
Straight on June 21, echelons were still going west with might and main.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Vasya_20

soon we will already really fight,

Do you want war so much?
I'm not here.
I myself did not fight, my parents told me.
And I liked it.
Highly.

[Vasya_20]

No, I really don't want to, but we all can't get away from the submarine when, God forbid, such a time comes.

[CommanderDIVA]

Why would the Americans risk their military transport aviation? They contracted the carriers from outside, and the Anov's tonnage is not bad either

[Vasya_20]

And they, in your opinion, do not have enough of their own cargo (cargo) Boeing 747s of all modifications or C-5 Galaxy, similar to the Ruslans, or what?

[uav80]

Russian Ruslans earlier, until 2014, were quite often used by the Pentagon, NATO and the UN, there is nothing like that, it's just business ... No one imposed sanctions against the company, NATO simply stopped concluding contracts with them, there were UN orders ...

[Roman070280]

And I thought that the United States wanted to attack us ... to seize all sorts of wealth ..
But it turns out that we, at the click of our fingers, do everything we need to do ..))

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Roman070280

we give them everything that needs to be done at the click of our fingers ..))

No, not at the snap of your fingers.
At the click of the cash register.
A commercial firm makes money, nothing more and nothing less.

[Vasya_20]

And what then are these global geopolitical opponents and "confrontation" between Russia and the United States, if our plane takes out their military property? With ukrami, everything is clear - their owners bent down and the "Mriya", not having time to roll out of the aircraft repair plant, immediately flew to fulfill the order to export some kind of military oversized cargo. And our Ruslan then what does it do there if the American Air Force has and operates cargo Lockheed C-5 Galaxy like Ruslan, and in the amount of 45 pieces, not counting the Boeing 747 cargo jets of various modifications, which they have also a lot - unlike our 36 pieces. of the total number of An-124 Ruslan aircraft in the Aerospace Forces, 224 flight squadrons and the Volga-Dnepr commercial airline?

[Thorvlobnor IV]

What makes you think that Galaxy does not fly there? There is a lot of cargo, a lot of transport is needed, and Galaxy has other tasks besides carrying it from Afghanistan. 747s do not have a stern loading ramp, so they are not very convenient for oversized cargo.

[faiver]

most commentators do not understand that the USSR no longer exists, these are not "our" planes, but the Volga-Dnepr airlines, they also imported the army property of the Americans when they entered Afghanistan, businessmen simply cut the loot until the aircraft's resource is exhausted, that's all , or are there Volga-Dnepr shareholders here? Comrade Isaikin, are you here?

[Vasya_20]

I'm not comrade. Isaikin, but according to information from the Internet, Russia has in stock only 36 An-124 Ruslan aircraft of various modifications. Of these, Volga-Dnepr Airlines operates only 12 units, the rest are in the Aerospace Forces (16 aircraft) and the 224th Flight Squadron (8 units), which is also a subdivision of the RF Ministry of Defense.

[faiver]

Well, here he is, the answer, the Pentagon junk is not the Ruslans of the Russian Aerospace Forces who carry it, or do you also think that the property of the "comrades" Deripaska, Potanin, Usmanov, Rotenberg and so on is ours?

[Tsoy]

Volga dnipro is a private company and has always cooperated with the pentagon. They don't drive their own geleksy simply because it is cheaper to hire a cab. And I suppose they flew to Pakistan as military assistance.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Nothing wrong. Let the crews earn.

[Kushka]

Quote: Roman070280

But it turns out that we, at the click of our fingers, do everything we need to do ..))

Yeah, so they'll tell us everything.
During the flight in each pair of these NATO underpants,
instead of the standard rubber band, they will insert a super-micro-nano-gum,
and every NATO member will be "on TV" after that. Kapets
all their strategy and tactics.

[Vladimir61]

Do you really have to give up the poppy fields, because this is their business plan?

[Charik]

there they have already welded so much that for a dozen years ahead it will be enough to poison the whole world

[TermNachTer]

Well, it is clear Banderlog, they will carry out any order from the Washington Reich Chancellery. But what is the use of helping mattress makers in Russia? Let the motor resource of their "Gelaxis" work out.

[tralflot1832]

Volgo Dnepr is a very interesting company. In terms of clients and aircraft service points all over the world and not only its own. It has a Boeing license to service their aircraft. 16 Boeing 747s, cargo in its state, past Ruslans.

[Charik]

I wonder what the Americans would do if suddenly our military asked them to transport the military cargo.

[fif21]

Well, here everything is about patriotism! Write about the defense of the Motherland and the corrupt bourgeoisie! How they stuff their pockets selling the interests of the country! Prohibit flights to the Russian Federation, revoke licenses, owners for felling!