Burning Afghanistan and "Great Turan"

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Source: tccb.gov.tr

Burning Afghanistan


As NATO and US troops withdraw from Afghanistan, the Taliban are behaving more and more harshly towards the official Kabul. The territory under the control of the authorities is rapidly shrinking. Government forces scatter or surrender. The Americans are going to help Kabul further, but mostly financially. There will be no military capabilities left. Obviously, after the withdrawal of the main NATO forces in Afghanistan, a small number of military advisers will remain, but this is a demonstration of the flag, and not real assistance.

The Taliban are confidently coming to power. Washington, in order to calmly withdraw its troops, had to come to an agreement with the Islamists. The Taliban are the leading and richest power in the country. Their budget is formed from the sale of drugs, raw materials (mining), aid from Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and other Islamic countries, and taxes on the controlled population. That allows you to maintain a fairly strong army (up to 80 thousand soldiers). As before, the Taliban will have to resolve the issue with national minorities, Hazaras, Tajiks and Uzbeks. Obviously, as before, a balance will be found. The current authorities have actually been written off. The Taliban see them as US puppets, and for good reason. That is, the coming to power of the Taliban is a generally resolved issue. There is no one to defend Kabul after the final departure of the Americans.



Thus, after the departure of the Americans, Russia receives a new threat. Afghanistan is sliding towards the scenario of Syria or Libya. A "funnel of chaos" is formed. The territory of the victorious radical Islamism. Taking into account the southern underbelly of Russia - Turkestan (the republics of Central Asia), which was greatly degraded after the collapse of the USSR, this is a serious danger. Archaization, the conditions of a new feudalism with khans and bays, who subjugated all financial flows, degradation of culture and education, created a strong social base for radical "black" Islam in Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Turkmenistan. It is also worth remembering the development of the criminal world and the drug mafia. Plus the global crisis, which further exacerbated the situation of ordinary people.

After nearly 20 years of war and hundreds of thousands of Afghan deaths, the Americans are leaving behind a heavy legacy. About $ 3 trillion has been wasted. Neither a stable national state, nor a strong, efficient army was created, nor did they achieve the defeat of the Taliban. The army, essentially mercenaries, swallowed up a lot of money, but never became the leading force in the country. It is completely dependent on external funding and material assistance. In addition, the soldiers have no idea or motive to die for official Kabul. As long as the salary is paid - they serve, as it gets hot - they run or give up. The United States was unable to defeat the terrible corruption (one of the world leaders), create a self-sufficient economy and defeat poverty (obviously, there were no such tasks). At the same time, Afghanistan has become a world drug factory - about 90% of world production of opium and heroin.

There is no unity among the local elites either. Some are guided by Pakistan, others by Iran, and others by China and Turkey. Some are simply engaged in drug trafficking or are following the path of further radicalization. In particular, both al-Qaeda and ISIS jihadists are based in Afghanistan.

"Great Turan"


Russia gets one more "headache". Turkey claims the place of the USA. R. Erdogan is implementing the "Great Turan" project - a new Turkish empire, pan-Turkism. On June 15, 2021, in Shusha, Aliyev and Erdogan signed a declaration on the union of Azerbaijan and Turkey. After the success in Karabakh, Baku is finally turning into a satellite of the big Turkish brother. Preparations are also underway to create a Turkish military base in Azerbaijan.

That is, NATO, represented by Turkey, occupies the former Russian sphere in the Transcaucasus, for which the Russians have shed rivers of blood over the centuries. Moreover, Erdogan is not going to stop. On the agenda is control over Central Asia, other Turkic peoples, which are included in the sphere of influence of the "Great Turan". From there, Russia will also be asked. The 1991 geopolitical catastrophe is developing. Turkish radicals also lay claim to the southern regions of the Russian Federation, Muslim regions. Russians are dying out, showing their unviability. And the Turkish ethnos is growing by 800 thousand annually. A holy place is never empty. As a result, Turkey offers the Caucasus and Central Asia a new model of regional order. Its leader and guarantor are now not Russians, but Turks.

Turkey also has its own interest in Afghanistan. US President D. Biden and Erdogan agreed that the Turkish military will play a leading role in ensuring the security of the Kabul airport after the completion of the NATO mission in Afghanistan. On the whole, Washington benefits from such a scenario when Turkey becomes the "replacement" of the United States in Afghanistan and the region as a whole. This is how American globalists pose a threat to both Russia and China. Before our eyes, another line of tension is emerging between Russia and Turkey, no longer in the Caucasus or Ukraine, but in Central Asia.

Ankara did not come to Afghanistan today. Turkey has been slowly and methodically strengthening its positions in Afghanistan for decades. Since the end of the 2000s, the Turks have been training the Afghan army. Turkey provided financial assistance to Kabul. In recent years, she has been actively investing in Afghanistan, developing her business. Also, Ankara has good ties with Qatar and Pakistan, which have their own interests in Afghanistan. Ankara can conduct a dialogue with the Taliban, Uzbeks and Tajiks.

Why does Turkey need Afghanistan?

First, to strengthen the Great Turan project. The Turks gain a foothold in Central Asia, which allows them to influence the situation in Central Asia (Turkestan). Put pressure on Russia and China (Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region of the PRC, and the Uyghurs are also Turks).

Secondly, these are energy projects. Turkey is consistently moving towards becoming the most important energy hub for Europe. That allows you to influence the EU. In particular, these are neighboring Turkmenistan, another important partner for Ankara, and the Trans-Caspian gas pipeline.

Thirdly, Afghanistan is a sales market for the new Turkish empire, a source of certain types of raw materials.
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  1. BAI
    +4
    24 June 2021 15: 06
    1. It is necessary to close the border with the Central Asian republics. Drugs will be trampled by the river.
    2. If Turkey gets into Afghanistan - so it needs it. Everyone was bogged down there, without exception. England, USSR, USA. Turkey will not be in the worst company.
    1. +20
      24 June 2021 15: 11
      It is necessary to close the border with the Central Asian republics.

      Uh-huh. Just now, the government said that it is necessary to urgently start at least 5 million Central Asians .. Without them, the authorities cannot do it. There are not enough slaves, you see locals stubbornly refuse to spend 12 hours a day on their own land for a pittance. And like a highly effective business suffers ..
      1. +4
        24 June 2021 15: 17
        Quote: paul3390
        And like a highly effective business suffers ..
        Reply
        Quote

        Where not stick, but everywhere business. Well, life.
        1. -2
          24 June 2021 15: 43
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Where not stick, but everywhere business. Well, life.

          Who are we? We do not have enough special knowledge to decide something in public affairs. what
    2. +7
      24 June 2021 15: 16
      Quote: BAI
      It is necessary to close the border with the Central Asian republics.

      The border is not a gate ... Yes, and these citizens already live in our country, and millions more ply back and forth two or three times a year. Closing borders ... yes, even construction sites were not closed in the first wave of the disease ...
    3. +2
      24 June 2021 16: 04
      -Why does Turkey need Afghanistan?
      TN project "Lazuli Corridor" This transit route begins in Afghanistan, then passes through Turkmenistan, the Caspian Sea, Azerbaijan, Georgia and ends in Turkey. That is, bypassing Iran, Russia and China.
      In politics, they are usually friends against someone.
      Should Iran or the KSA feel a threat to their interests, the friendship will end immediately. Qatar and the Saudis are not friends at all.
      Politically, Afghanistan has never depended on Turkey, so they can only rely on the Turkmen and Uzbeks. The Khazaras and Tajiks are closer to Iran.
      I don't think that negotiations with Dostum and Rabbani will help much.
      And it's too early to write off Russia.
    4. +4
      24 June 2021 16: 16
      Quote: BAI
      1. It is necessary to close the border with the Central Asian republics. Drugs will be trampled by the river.

      First of all, there is no need to invite migrants!
      Quote: BAI
      2. If Turkey gets into Afghanistan - so it needs it. Everyone was bogged down there, without exception. England, USSR, USA. Turkey will not be in the worst company.

      I am afraid that the Turks will feel like a fish in water there. Radical Islam is only beneficial to Erdogan, he will deal with his liberals and leftists with his help.
    5. +2
      24 June 2021 20: 16
      Quote: BAI
      It is necessary to close the border with the Central Asian republics.

      Do you propose to open an unhindered path for all this directly to the borders of Russia? There are formed ...
    6. 0
      25 June 2021 00: 58
      But what about the Mongols?
      1. 0
        27 June 2021 22: 36
        Quote: Revival
        But what about the Mongols?

        But what about cyclists?))
  2. +6
    24 June 2021 15: 08
    Russia gets one more "headache".
    And a bunch of problems ...
    1. +1
      24 June 2021 15: 18
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      And a bunch of problems ...

      Thanks Bor.
      1. +4
        24 June 2021 16: 24
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Thanks Bor.

        No, thanks to Vova, with her camarilla! What is it with you, wherever you stick it, either Yeltsin the drunk is to blame, or the Communists planted another bomb. You absolutely don't want to take responsibility for your guano? This is where your weakness lies, you won't go far with lies.
        1. +3
          24 June 2021 19: 08
          For some reason, there is an opinion that with the arrival of the Taliban, a sea of ​​drugs will flow to us! Yes, we already have a sea of ​​these drugs! Here the problem is not in the supply, but in those who protect her here (I think everyone is guessing about who we are talking about) Russia and without the Taliban largest drug hub.
          1. +2
            24 June 2021 20: 01
            Quote: spirit
            Russia is the largest drug hub even without the Taliban.

            I will not say that I compared drug hubs with each other.))))) But yes, where there is no work, there are people who just do not do. The family needs to be fed and the principle is that you die today, and I will die tomorrow. In addition, such things in the place are always covered by people with large shoulder straps, I'm talking about chemists, growers, etc. And the role of the Taliban in this filth, in my opinion, tends to zero, since a natural product is always expensive and is poisoned mainly by fierce chemistry.
      2. +1
        25 June 2021 01: 01
        Fucked almost half a century ago merged, wake up
  3. +10
    24 June 2021 15: 09
    Interesting - Turks for the Taliban? They have no money, Pashtuns - not a fig not Turki, and like the great Turan they do not dream at night. In addition, the neighbors, Pakistan and Iran, clearly have their own vision of the further fate of Afghanistan, and there are no Ottomans there. Erdogan is striding wide, so as not to tear his pants ..
    1. +8
      24 June 2021 15: 16
      Quote: paul3390
      Interesting - Turks for the Taliban? They have no money, Pashtuns - not a fig not Turki, and like the great Turan they do not dream at night. In addition, the neighbors, Pakistan and Iran, clearly have their own vision of the further fate of Afghanistan, and there are no Ottomans there. Erdogan is striding wide, so as not to tear his pants ..

      The Taliban have already stated that they will not tolerate any foreign troops on their territory, including Turkish ones.
      So, yes, you are right - Erdogan is not expected in Afghanistan.
    2. +2
      24 June 2021 15: 20
      Quote: paul3390
      Pakistan with Iran, clearly have their own vision

      There are a lot of ties between Turkey and Pakistan ... Therefore, they are quite capable of moving in the same direction.
      And they will come to an agreement with the Taliban, they will find "points of contact."
      But with Iran it is doubtful.
      1. +6
        24 June 2021 15: 27
        There are a lot of ties between Turkey and Pakistan ...

        Pakistan has much more to do with China. And China doesn't need Erdogan in Afghanistan for nothing ..
    3. +2
      24 June 2021 15: 41
      Remember who created the Empire of the Great Mughals and you will understand everything ... True, this empire was created not by democratic methods, but by the most brutal suppression of resistance and the subordination of the local population, the inclusion of youth in the active army and its involvement in the invaders' detachments (There are no youth, there is no one to protest. If a coward, then you are not worthy of a good life, if a hero - serve the empire and you will have everything ...). The Mughals were the only ones who were able to control Afghanistan for a long time ...
      1. +9
        24 June 2021 17: 32
        And before the "Great Mughals" (the definition was given by the Europeans, in fact, this is the heritage of Tamerlane) there were Genghisids, who staged a campaign in Hindustan (India and Pakistan). The first campaign was led by Mukhali (one of the generals of Genghis Khan). Both were nomads. On the territory of modern Afghanistan there were attacks by local ones, but Mukhali cut out the nearby settlements (the remaining ones were simply crushed and resettled) and ... everything died out. The Hazaras are the descendants of those nomads. Among them there are representatives of such nationalities as Jalair, Naiman, etc. (at the moment you can find them among the Kazakhs).
        It is interesting to compare the withdrawal of our troops and the NATO troops. In our country, the maximum number of troops was 108 thousand, and among NATO members, 238 thousand (Americans among them were about 130 thousand). We controlled all the key communications, and NATO members have long since surrendered everything, sitting on the bases. If, during the withdrawal of troops, we received blows somewhere, then the response was immediate and crushing.
        Najibullah held out for 3 years alone - Kozyrev persuaded Yeltsin to cut off fuel and lubricants supplies, and only after that the Afghan army collapsed. And now, NATO members have not left yet, and the ANA (Afghan National Army) is already scattering. The Taliban ANA fighters are simply disbanding and even giving money to get them home. Najibullah controlled the country, and now ... the Taliban are taking control of entire areas (there are about 400 of them). In just a couple of days, they took control of 20 districts in 8 provinces. Under NATO, the Taliban now receive practically everything that the ANA owned. From D-30 to Humvee. In the area of ​​the city of Davlatabad, Faryab province, 300 ANA soldiers surrendered, surrendering a bunch of weapons and vehicles to a whole convoy. Some ANA fighters simply side with the Taliban, who are already approaching Mazar-i-Sharif (the Uzbek capital in the north) and have cut the road north to Kunduz. Soon the entire north will be cut off.
        Another interesting point. In April, the ANA had 334 fighters killed, and in May, more than 1338.
        I do not believe that the Turks will hold out there, and even more so they will create "Great Turan". Kazakhstan will definitely not change its alliance with a nuclear power for the dreams of the Turkish sultan. He now needs to take care of his economy - inflation jumps - there is no time for Turan. hi
  4. +3
    24 June 2021 15: 10
    Taking into account the southern underbelly of Russia - Turkestan (the republics of Central Asia), which was greatly degraded after the collapse of the USSR, this is a serious danger ..

    Which needs to be stopped on the distant approaches, in the same Central Asia.
    This cannot be done without close and mutually beneficial work with Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan.
  5. +1
    24 June 2021 15: 11
    Obviously, after the withdrawal of the main NATO forces in Afghanistan, a small number of military advisers will remain, but this is a demonstration of the flag, and not real assistance.
    Any advisers will be kicked out, if they are not paid for, correspondingly, the time of their stay there.
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    1. 0
      24 June 2021 15: 20
      Quote from rudolf
      India will probably fail, but China ...

      Rather YES.
  7. +3
    24 June 2021 15: 19
    The Taliban are the same Afghans, while they fight almost free of charge and do not flee, they even resist the United States.

    Afghans officially serving in the army and police, receiving decent salaries, run like rats even with a numerical and technical superiority.

    Why?! Why don't Afghans want to fight for a decent life for their children and their country? Why choose radicalism and medieval customs as the norm of life?
  8. +7
    24 June 2021 15: 19
    The Taliban are the leading and richest power in the country. Their budget comes from selling drugs
    If my memory serves me, then the Taliban actively fought against the production of drugs.
    1. +2
      24 June 2021 15: 40
      Quote: Lesovik
      If my memory serves me, then the Taliban actively fought against the production of drugs.

      One time. Then they changed their minds.
  9. +3
    24 June 2021 15: 26
    The Turks cannot deal with the Kurds. And this is their territory. Again alarms, again everything is bad, we are dying out, the Turks are coming to our place, again everything is gone. The author enjoys the black future. And I like our future, it is wonderful and Russia, quite confidently and evenly, is moving towards its goal: a great country and happy people.
    1. -1
      24 June 2021 18: 21
      Do you know your words to God in the ears, in reality we are rapidly dying out, the population is decreasing by hundreds of thousands a year. So I would appreciate your optimism if it is better correlated with the facts.
      1. 0
        26 June 2021 17: 25
        It's not all bad.
        1. 0
          26 June 2021 17: 32
          Everything is not bad, bad with demography, I draw your attention to this.
          In 2020, the population decline has doubled, this year is also a lot, this has long required actions and decisions.
          1. 0
            27 June 2021 13: 12
            Quote: Victor Tsenin
            and in 2020, the population decline will be accelerated twice, this year is also a lot, this has long required actions and decisions.

            Moreover, it is mainly residents of the Caucasus and newcomers who have received citizenship that breed. If we carried out research on the growth and decline of nationalities, they would learn a lot of interesting things. And who gets maternity capital?
            1. 0
              27 June 2021 20: 42
              It multiplies who wants and where wants, there would be a desire) In this context, the question is about the lack of selectivity in issuing citizenship (knowledge of the language, usefulness, good relations with the law) and procedures for deprivation of citizenship. Along with the decline, which the new citizens do not compensate, the moment of a large number of potential and actual pests also takes place.
          2. 0
            28 June 2021 16: 39
            I completely agree. Here is a video from the United Nations resource. Affects the years from 1950 to 2020 and projected to 2100. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmhK_eY-aX8&ab_channel=FunnyStats
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  10. -5
    24 June 2021 15: 28
    I hope the Turks will be better able to stabilize Afghanistan, after all, Muslims (regardless of different trends) will understand each other better than Muslims and Christians
    1. +2
      24 June 2021 15: 50
      Quote: markant1970
      I hope the Turks will be better able to stabilize Afghanistan, after all, Muslims (regardless of different trends) will understand each other better than Muslims and Christians

      Why all of a sudden such hopes? The Turks only try to sow discord between nations. More recently, for example, they tried to provoke the Kyrgyz against the Tajiks. The past times, when the Turks were too actively involved in the affairs of Wed. Az. , then all their rump ended very badly. And at the same time they themselves managed to escape from a just punishment.
      1. +1
        25 June 2021 18: 54
        Well, it was under Karimov. Yes, he did not hesitate, and he pressed the Turks, and removed the Sorovsk institutions and removed the US base. And he collaborated with Dostum.
  11. 0
    24 June 2021 15: 37
    Afghanistan is not a "kem volost". Let the Turks, or someone else take this gadyushnik for themselves.
    The author frightened Central Asia with "bays and khans". Even under the Soviet Union they were not very disguised. And now the former "builders of communism" have returned to their natural state.
    I agree with BAI - it is necessary to close the border with the former Soviet Socialist Republics in Asia. And preferably in the most radical version.
    1. +2
      24 June 2021 16: 09
      Quote: samarin1969
      I agree with BAI - it is necessary to close the border with the former Soviet Socialist Republics in Asia. And preferably in the most radical version.

      You know better there. And if anything, let me in?
      Quote: samarin1969
      And now the former "builders of communism" have returned to their natural state.

      This is true. I have a more flexible idea regarding migrants undesirable for the population of Russia.
      And learn from them. You businessmen will like it. I don't know why they haven't figured it out yet ...
      In the 19th century, the Uzbeks, sometimes wild against their background, tribes, approximately as follows, taught to work -
      First, you must first buy tools from the employer. Secondly, not having time to start work, I have already screwed up, therefore it has not worked yet, but it should already.
      After all, their life is about like this.
    2. 0
      24 June 2021 19: 12
      And what will happen if Central Asia falls and some kind of Caliphate appears there. + Americans and Turks will give them money, resources, weapons. This is the second Syria, just at the border of Russia.
      1. +1
        24 June 2021 21: 24
        Quote: V1er
        And what will happen if Central Asia falls and some kind of Caliphate appears there. + Americans and Turks will give them money, resources, weapons. This is the second Syria, just at the border of Russia.


        Here the whole NATO is in the Baltics and comes to Ukraine. This is a more serious adversary than the "Syrians". The main border with the "southerners" runs along a flat open steppe area. It is quite possible to stop technologically.
  12. -1
    24 June 2021 16: 01
    You forget that Turkey (and their soldiers) are Muslims, unlike those who arrived there with the war before them.
    And the Taliban, unlike the majority of Afghans, are Sunnis, an ashharism movement. Turkey is also a Sunni state. Among other things, Turkey has many things in common with the Taliban. + Turkey is not going there for war, but for defense. A common language will be found, no doubt, whether someone wants it or not, but Turkey has everything clear with the Taliban, and this is the main thing.
    Fraternal Pakistan is nearby, and Britain and the United States provide full support in this. What else is needed for the complete success of an already powerful Turkey ..
    1. +3
      24 June 2021 16: 16
      I think it's not just that the Turks are going to Afghanistan, they have some agreements with the Taliban.
    2. +1
      24 June 2021 21: 48
      "Common language" between the Taliban and the Iranians. The Taliban are Persians living in a tribal system and professing a different branch of religion (can be compared with our Old Believers). They do not recognize the power of the Turks and other Turks ... They will take the money, but they will decide for themselves what to do with it ...
  13. +1
    24 June 2021 16: 02
    It's too late to drink Essentuki, the kidneys have already refused. Ah, Turkey, ah "Great Turan", ah NATO in the Transcaucasus. What can Russia offer to the former republics? Chinese and Turkish consumer goods? ... The CIS, which was talked about so much, died. True, it gave birth to the Customs Union. It did not create a single economic space. Almost all of them remained at the broken troughs, which, if cut into pieces, can be flooded with black. And everyone looks around, and where to find the rich Buratino, who would shower five soldo. And they are Buratina next to run around with both the loot and the ideology. Moreover, most of the former, an economic miracle, they do not need money, give them. "Jack, what can you do for money? For money, I can do everything." (C) "But for what I ... love a cowboy ... so it is for what he has ... and I have! I have everything! And I meant your cinematograph! " That's all globalistics.
  14. +1
    24 June 2021 16: 10
    I wonder how long the official government will hold out after the end of the withdrawal of the US contingent ... Najibullah lasted 3 years, and then only because up to 91 goals were actively helped, and then a year and all, and after 4 years a terrible death
    1. +4
      24 June 2021 16: 18
      Najibullah, he was ideological in addition. That is why he held out. And these are without ideological. The presence of the United States did not help them. I think it will end quickly. In a few months. It is unlikely that the count will go over the years.
  15. +1
    24 June 2021 16: 21
    Adequate status! good The author analyzed the situations and made generally correct conclusions! Respect! hi The US is shifting its focus to the Asia-Pacific region, where China is gaining strength. Turkey will use the chance to wedge deeper and deeper into the post-Soviet space! Underestimating the possibilities of Turkey, its advantages in regions with a predominantly Mohamedan / Turkic-speaking population promises a big problem for Russia and not only for it! Some mistakes, flirting Ross. leadership from Erdogan, in the long term will be expensive for Russia! Turkey has ideology, even 2 - Pan-Turkism and Pan-Islamism! Both are reactionary, with far-reaching expansionist goals for global domination!
    Unfortunately, history repeats itself! Early / better / or later / worse / country for whom neo-Ottomanism is a threat, they should think and organize a common opposition!
    1. 0
      24 June 2021 21: 55
      The new "enlargement" of Turkey will lead to an exacerbation of the internal struggle of the elites, and to the disintegration into even smaller formations that are at war with each other ...
  16. sen
    +2
    24 June 2021 16: 30
    China has invested a lot of money in Central Asia. May offer protection in exchange for military bases. The US also wants to enter Central Asia with military bases - to encircle Russia.
  17. -1
    24 June 2021 16: 51
    It is too early to judge Turkey there. Now all the attention is on Iran. If nothing special happens at the end of summer - beginning of autumn, and the Americans and their comrades REALLY leave there ... I think this "withdrawal" is a smoke screen and rotation of the composition + under the guise of "removal of equipment" = transport workers are bringing in the necessary things for the war with Iran.

    So, if they actually leave, and Turkey remains, this is not good for us. Turks will protect Turkic-speaking clients: Afghan Uzbeks, Turkmens, Kyrgyz and, possibly, Tajiks (they simply have nowhere to go). And at the same time - to plant and defend the ideas of ISIS (as was the case in Syria). Accordingly, with further penetration into Central Asia. Where only a lighted match is not enough for everything to blaze - on the soil warmed not only by the sun, but also by social lawlessness (as in Russia).

    We urgently need to build at least some semblance of a real border with Kazakhstan.
    1. +1
      24 June 2021 22: 06
      No, we need to allocate specials at BAM. the area to which all illegal migrants will be taken (They will earn money there for a ticket, then they will go home. From where they should be sent home with money from our taxes ..). You look, after this measure, the BAM will be better equipped and illegal immigrants will decrease at once ... Kyrgyz and Tajiks need to be protected. The rest will deal with the Taliban themselves ...
      1. 0
        24 June 2021 22: 37
        And they need it - our protection? There is no feed for the horse. Fuck all this from Russia must be swept ...
  18. +2
    24 June 2021 17: 52
    Afghans will not accept Turkish leadership. The Taliban will seize power and the Turks may find themselves in a fourth war.
  19. +3
    24 June 2021 18: 58
    the author apparently saw Afghan only on the map and very little understands what it is. As soon as the Taliban finish with the mattress and gayropeans, they will immediately take on the Turks. And when the "200" are brought to Turkey in stacks, Erdogan will understand what he has gotten himself into))) the fact that they are Muslims does not mean anything to Afghans. I was very amused by the idea of ​​creating tension for China))) I strongly recommend the author to try to cross the mountains from Afghanistan to China))) not to mention the fact that in order to create problems for China, it is necessary to be with him "in the same weight category" ... And Turkey now, no longer knows who to ask for money, because thanks to Erdogan's "wise rule", the economy and finances are in a half-killed state. So, I wish Recep "creative Uzbeks"))))
    1. -2
      24 June 2021 22: 11
      No, it’s not true. Rather like this: the Turks will rake, it is clear. But this matter is not hopeless for them. There is approximately a balance there, with a slight preponderance of the latter: the so-called northern alliance in different variations - the Taliban (Pashtuns). Now, if you help the "alliance" a little, and Turkey is more than capable of that, then they can easily hold Kabul. It is clear that holding the southern territories is without a chance.
      1. +1
        24 June 2021 22: 27
        Afghans can't stomach outsiders. The Turks are strangers there. To hold Kabul with nearby heights, it takes 20-25 thousand snouts. They will have to supply them by air, MANPADS will shoot at them. Will the Turkish Air Force pull such fun? I strongly doubt
        1. -1
          24 June 2021 22: 33
          They are in this mode with the Kurds "communicate" for fuck how many years. So much naked asshole does not surprise them. And they will not be strangers there. The Turks and Tajiks of northern Afghanistan are really interested in them.

          They will have problems - 100%. China, Pakistan - this is serious. But they will keep "their" site.
          1. +1
            25 June 2021 12: 12
            They have Kurds, only in the southeast. And Afghans are everywhere and for Afghans everyone who is not local is strangers. If you do not keep the whole of Kabul and its surroundings, hell they will keep the airport. And the garrison will have to be supplied by air, but will the Turkish Air Force pull such a load, especially if they are met by MANPADS?
    2. 0
      25 June 2021 20: 30
      There are clear doubts that Turkey will put forward against China. Although the blood can spoil.
  20. -4
    24 June 2021 19: 20
    But there were times when the border was sacred and inviolable, and nothing was sold or bought, and now at such a pace and Russia will disappear into oblivion
  21. +1
    25 June 2021 09: 19
    In fact, the Taliban were consistent opponents of drugs. And when they first brought Afghanistan under their control, the crops dropped sharply. And with the arrival of the Americans, they grew dramatically. How it will be now, we'll see.
    1. 0
      25 June 2021 12: 14
      Islam is against drugs, but some of its movements believe that selling it to infidels is very possible. You cannot use it yourself.
  22. 0
    25 June 2021 10: 59
    Well, China will cope with its Islamists once or twice. But we will have to sour
  23. +1
    25 June 2021 23: 10
    The Taliban came to power in 1996, the United States was not at enmity with them. In 2000, the Taliban declared war on drugs. This is what caused the US invasion of Afghanistan. It is not the Taliban who benefits from the drug trade, but the puppet Kabul regime. Moreover, the Taliban is a purely Pashtun movement. It is Pakistan that should be worried because Pashtun tribes live on its territory. The Taliban do not need Central Asian territories in FIG. Opponents of the Taliban can flee there, the Taliban will be allies of neighboring states against these fugitives.
  24. +1
    25 June 2021 23: 16
    The Taliban are the leading and richest power in the country. Their budget is formed from drug sales

    Actually - fat unsatisfactory. The author, by any chance, does not earn money as a diver?
  25. 0
    27 June 2021 22: 42
    "Great Turan"

    Yes, there is already good analytics


  26. 0
    28 June 2021 19: 45
    I think Turkey should address Russia's concerns about the Turan Union. It is natural that this situation concerns Russia. If the Turan Union is neutral, Russia will feel safe on its southern borders. But if the Turan Union gives military bases to countries like Europe and America, of course, this poses a threat to Russia. Russia has a good relationship with all Turkish States. If the Turan Union is established, this relationship can be further enhanced. Russia is under pressure. China from the east, NATO from the West and the United States are applying pressure. The Montreux Straits convention is Russia's guarantee in the Black Sea. In Central Asia, there may also be a guarantee of Turan unity. Perhaps Russia is wary of the pressure that the United States and Europe can put on Turkey. I do not think that Turkey will wage a proxy war for the United States and Europe. Turkey does not trust them anyway. They are also trying to surround Turkey. Just like Russia. In addition, Turkey has received more support from Russia than NATO, of which it is a member. If Russia gets rid of its obsession with Armenians and Kurds, its interests with Turkey may overlap. After all, these two groups are of no use to Russia. On the contrary, they can turn their backs on Russia in a serious situation. In fact, they're back. Turkey will continue to look like an ally with the United States and Europe until it reaches the level it wants militarily. Turkey does not trust them. The US and Europe's support of the Kurdish terrorist organization, its patronage of Fettullah Gulen, its support of Greece's illegal demands, and its acceptance of Armenian lies as genocide threaten Turkey's national security and interests. I believe that the interests of Turkey and Russia will overlap even more in the future. At the moment, an environment of trust has not been fully formed. It is Russia's fault as well as Turkey's. Instead of stepping on each other's feet, they should increase cooperation. They have to name each other. I think Russia can start by opening its archives about the Armenian events. Russi can reveal that this is a big lie. Another step could be closing the terrorist organization's offices. It can support Turkey's operations in Iraq and Syria. Even Greece now is a threat to Russia's national security. It is trying to shut down Russia's trade routes by giving the United States military bases. I believe that military cooperation between Turkey and Russia will increase even more. Russia and Turkey should further increase relations under the nuclear program. Even a balsitic missile program can be supported. Perhaps Turkey will cooperate with Russia on the drone program. Or electromagnetic warfare. Who knows? It is in the hands of the two countries to disrupt this game against those who try to disrupt Turkey and Russia's relations.
  27. 0
    6 July 2021 18: 23
    It is strange, if Turkey supports official Kabul, why did the military fled to Central Asia and not to Turkey?
    Russia, not deciding cardinally the issues in Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, leaves the field of problems that today hang with weights on its feet. Cowardly politics today will affect all Russians. The same insignificant policy in Central Asia and the Russian Volga region. Nothing good can be expected.
  28. 0
    7 July 2021 17: 31
    [i] [/ i] Russia has its own interests and they must be protected, they must be defended, but with what and by whom. Russia itself today is a sick person, poverty, unemployment, the extinction of the people, science, education, industry have been destroyed, we live on the legacy of the USSR and the authorities spit on the country's past, smart educated people have practically left the country, no one wants to work for a penny and protect various Abramovichs, Vekselbergs and K *, there is no ideology in the country, those who were born in the 1980s and then these generations are lost to Russia. And against this background, the growth of Turkey as a country, a power, although it is insulting, is an example of when a patriotic leader is at the head of the country.

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