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Wallace Collection Armor: A Choice for Every Taste!

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The highest quality of the armor on display in the Wallace Collection is best evidenced by this photograph taken by Paul Hudson ...


David girded himself with a sword over his armor and tried to walk in them, as he was not used to it. “I can't walk in them,” he said to Saul, “because I'm not used to them. And he took them off.
First Book of Kingdoms 17:39

Museum collections of knightly armor and weapons. European and Eastern weapons and armor are present in the Wallace Collection in very large numbers - 2370 items. But we must not forget about quality behind quantity. And the quality of the exhibits in the Wallace Collection is just excellent. It contains a lot of rare personal knightly armor, and we have already talked about some of them on the pages of VO. But there are so many interesting armor there that we consider it necessary to continue our story about the knightly collection of the Wallace Collection ...

Wallace Collection Armor: A Choice for Every Taste!
Armor by Lucio Marliani, called Piccinino (1538-1607)

This armor is somewhat unusual in that it remained in an unfinished state. He began working on it sometime in 1580, and apparently it was an expensive order in the style of Northern Italian Mannerism for some important nobleman. The work went only to the manufacture of plates and the initial stages of embossing relief ornament. If the armor had been completed, it would have been gilded, silver-plated in accordance with the high standards of high mannerism. The decor of the armor is very rich. It includes motifs as diverse as images of Roman soldiers, allegorical figures, mythical beasts, grotesque masks and trophies with weapons. All these details needed to be further emphasized not only with gold and silver, but also, possibly, with contrasting blackened areas. Of course, I would like to see this armor in all its glory, but it still represents an extremely rare and exciting opportunity to look into the process of making such armor.

The right shoulder pad and bracers of armor are now missing, but as you know, they existed. The lost parts are documented as preserved in photographs from the 8,56th and early XNUMXth centuries, suggesting that these parts may still be located somewhere in Italy. The total weight of what remains is XNUMX kg.


Armor by Hans Ringler, Nuremberg, Germany, c. 1532-1536 In 1532, the chanfron and other details of horse armor were made, and in 1536 the saddle

Before us is a complex structure made with the use of various steels, iron, velvet, gold, copper alloy and leather, and the parts of the armor are subjected to the following types of mechanical and chemical processing: corrugation, etching, painting and gilding. Armor weight 26,396 kg, horse armor weight 28,47 kg.

The owner of the armor was a certain Otto Henry, or "Ottheinrich" - an influential German military leader, patron of the arts, and later - an ardent champion of the Protestant Reformation. He had some fine armor, which he wore during military campaigns, not only to protect his person, but also to emphasize his high social status. The color of the armor reflected his coat of arms, depicted on the chanfron (protection of the horse's muzzle), which depicts golden lions on a black field. Therefore, the main surfaces of the armor are painted black, making the engraved and gilded stripes and borders look very bright and impressive. Many armors were originally colored, but today most have lost their original coloration.

The armor we see today is a composite piece made up of several pieces of armor belonging to Otthainrich. This becomes apparent when one examines the decorative motifs contained in the gilded stripes. The shoulder pads and cuirass have the same pattern, with birds and babies prominently featured, and therefore clearly belong to the same armor. The rest of the pieces are of a different design, including large swirls of flowers and foliage. The figure of the Virgin Mary is also engraved on the breastplate, which underlines the fact that this work predates Otthainrich's conversion to Protestantism, which rejected such images.

In 1800, during the Napoleonic Wars, Otthainrich Castle in Neuberg on the Danube was raided by French troops, and some of his armor was taken to Napoleon's personal collection. Some parts remained in Paris, while other parts were used to make this armor, which was bought and brought to England, where it fell into the hands of the great weapons scientist Sir Samuel Rush Meyrick. Most of Meyrick's collection was acquired by Sir Richard Wallace in 1871.

It is always interesting how much one or another armor or their individual parts weigh. But ... it is not always in museums that they are taken apart and the latter are weighed separately. In the case of this armor from Flanders, we were lucky. Moreover, it is also lucky that this is armor of the 2,1th century (in the 1,36th they were repaired), that is, they are old and therefore rare. At that time, armor was not yet court clothing, but served precisely as a means of protection in battle. So this armor is practically not decorated, but is made of low and medium carbon steels and leather. No gold or silver for you ... The weight of its parts is as follows: 2,34 kg, helmet; 1,97 kg, bevor; 3,64 kg bib; 1,5 kg skirt; 1,2 kg, backrest; 0,3 kg, left rib, cooler and bracer; 0,34 kg, right rib, cooler and bracer; 0,17 kg, left glove; 0,13 kg, right glove; 1,49 kg, rondel (aka besagyu); 1,6 kg, rondel; 0,85 kg, left legguard (quis); 0,41 kg, right leg gaiter (cuis); XNUMX kg, leggings left and right; XNUMX kg, shoe left and right (sabatons).

The vast majority of the earliest armors in museums today are actually composites. Many of them were collected piece by piece in the XNUMXth century. Sometimes their constituent parts belong to different periods, were made in different places and in different styles. Often the museum workers had too few original parts, so XNUMXth century restorers made new parts for them so that the full armor could be assembled.

This armor is also part of the composite. But overall, it gives a good general idea of ​​the type of armor worn by German knights and soldiers at the end of the 1470th century. However, if we look closely, we find that the details are dated in different ways - from the 1510s to the XNUMXs, including modern details, and they come from Italy, Germany and Flanders.

Moreover, as our knowledge about the armor of the past eras becomes more and more complete, the "oldest armor" also changes. On these, for example, a modern and stylistically incorrect visor was removed from the helmet, as well as short chain mail fragments just below the knees - this is a distinctive feature of armor worn in Italy, but rarely found anywhere in Europe, except for the Iberian Peninsula.


Here they are - battle armor of the XNUMXth century, although, of course, some of their parts were made in the XNUMXth ...

Some parts of this armor have historical value. For example, the details for the right hand, including the shoulder pad, with the exception of the cutter (elbow piece), are genuine objects of the XNUMXth century, and in good condition. The most important parts, however, are the plate shoes. From the middle of the XNUMXth century, only two pairs of original Italian shoes have survived, and this is one of them. Of the two pairs, only they have pointed feet and articulated "tongues" designed to be fastened to greaves (calf plates). They fit snugly to the feet of the owner, like "steel skin", and their details like a lobster's tail overlap one another.


"Maximilian armor" 1515-1525 Material: steel. Weight: 18,99 kg

Wallace's collection would be incomplete if it were not for the armor with flutes or "comb", which is often called "Maximilian" in honor of the Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian I (1459-1519). Maximilian was a great enthusiast of knightly armor, demanded innovative designs from his court gunsmiths, and at the same time showed a personal interest in the process of their creation. Not surprisingly, many of the finest and most technologically advanced armor made by the great masters of southern Germany were intended for Maximilian's personal use, both in battles and in knightly tournaments.

The "Maximilian style" quickly gained popularity in German lands in the first decade of the XNUMXth century. It was distinguished by dense groups of flutes that covered almost all surfaces of the knight's armor. This striking piece of armor design became somewhat synonymous with the Northern Renaissance in Germany, as the dense corrugated pattern resembled the tight folds of men's and women's clothing at the time. The link with fashionable civilian clothing is further emphasized by the fact that the only pieces of armor that have always remained simple were greaves - plates covering the shins, the contrasting smoothness of which was almost certainly intended to resemble the tight-fitting legs of the nobility in silk stockings.

Each flute was highlighted by clear lines of notching on both sides, which made Maximilian's armor even more time consuming and difficult to manufacture. This style is also known for its typically narrow waist, which expands quickly to a very wide chest and shoulders. Well, in Wallace's collection there is armor in the "Maximilian style". So there you can see them in detail too!

One full armor, dating from about 1515-1525, is an excellent example of this type of armor. Technically speaking, one of the most interesting aspects of this armor is the way that the top plates of the spudlers - the shoulder pads - were made detachable from the articulated plates that are an integral part of the armbands. This made it possible to replace these parts for protecting the hands, replacing some of the shoulder pads with much larger, wing-like plates, that is, to strengthen the armor in such a way as to use these plates for spear fighting!

It is interesting that at almost the same time in the same Nuremberg in Germany around 1540-1550. lightweight armor was also produced for horsemen armed with firearms. Now even fairly simple armor is beginning to be decorated, but in this armor the degree of decoration is still minimal. Total weight 15,46 kg. Interestingly, it bears seven imprints of the Nuremberg city sign, and on the back of the cuirass there is also an N sign on the inner surface - probably this is the then “quality mark” of the city of Nuremberg. This armor is especially notable for the fact that all the details in it are "native", with the exception of the helmet and one more insignificant detail.


Three-quarter armor from Nuremberg, circa 1540-1550

Such three-quarter armor was universal, and they were worn in different configurations by both infantrymen, nicknamed "dry spears" in England, and horsemen, and riders of both light and medium cavalry. The workmanship is very good, the plates are well matched to one another, expertly ground and polished, and decorated with delicate but elegant recessed stripes and carved edges. The fact that such a high-quality performance could be achieved with primitive equipment testifies to the high level of Nuremberg's industry. This armor has one interesting feature, which shows that the gunsmith who worked on it was in a hurry. Instead of making hinge bridges around the elbow joint, he limited himself to three details: the upper "tube", the cushion (elbow piece) and the lower "tube". This can be clearly seen in the photograph. The craftsman left enough empty space between the three plates for the elbow to bend comfortably. This method allowed significant savings in manufacturing time, although it somewhat lowered the level of protection provided by the armor.

The helmet, although "alien", is a perfect example of a "closed burgundy" or "closed helmet from Burgundy". It is also equipped with the articulated bevor (chin plate) and the articulated neck plates of a typical closed helmet, which, in combination with the burgora visor, provides a high level of protection. The helmet shape was especially popular in Eastern Europe, which Nuremberg also regularly supplied with a huge amount of armor.


Another very interesting piece of armor from Nuremberg, circa 1612 (29,845th century restoration). Material: low-carbon steel, corrugated. Total weight: XNUMX kg

It is generally accepted that the "Maximilian armor" went out of fashion by 1550. But ... Wallace's collection has a curious corrugated armor made in the "German style" around 1510-1530. However, none of its details, as it turned out, were made at the beginning of the XNUMXth century!

Although this armor does make an overall impression with its beautiful corrugated "Maximilian" style, a closer look at its design clearly shows that it was made much later. The two-piece design of the bib, although not completely inaccurate for the beginning of the XNUMXth century, is very atypical for him. Most of the grooves are also much deeper than on most authentic Emperor Maximilian pieces.

The bracers look especially unlike the work of the early to mid-XNUMXth century. And the small wings of the cutter are very reminiscent of the bracers of the cuirassier armor of the XNUMXth century. In addition, although this is a full knightly armor, it lacks such a detail as a forearm - that is, a lance hook, and why, in this case, was such an armor needed?

For a number of modern armor, it was possible to prove that it dates back to 1612. It is noteworthy that this year the Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire Matthias (Matthias, Matthew, Matthias, 1557-1619) - King of Germany from 1612, Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, Archduke of Austria from January 20, 1612 (replaced Emperor Rudolf II from 1593) , at the same time the King of Hungary under the name of Matthias II and the king of Bohemia under the name of Matthias II, from the Habsburg dynasty, arrived on an official visit to Nuremberg shortly after his coronation. It has been suggested that this armor (and he is not the only one!) In the style of the XNUMXth century was made specifically for the guard of honor put up by the city authorities to greet the new emperor. Their choice to reproduce an outdated style of armor could be motivated by a desire to recreate the great era of Nuremberg at the beginning of the XNUMXth century, the era of Albrecht Dürer - the founder of the German Renaissance.

In addition to the basic elements made in the XNUMXth century, the armor was supplemented with details from the XNUMXth century, in particular, plates on the back of the knees, plates of articulation between the gorget and shoulder pads, and spurs.

Very characteristic of the middle of the XNUMXth century were horsemen's armor "in three quarters", which was specially produced for the cavalry of pistoliers - cuirassiers and reitars.


Cuirassier armor from Nuremberg 1550 Materials: blackened iron and leather. Total weight 11,325 kg

Interestingly, black and white armor was produced in very large quantities in the second half of the 1500th century almost exclusively in German lands, and especially in Nuremberg, the largest mass-produced armor manufacturer since XNUMX. Black and white armor was not only used by the armies of the German lands, but was also exported throughout Europe and was popular even in Scotland and Ireland. Although many of them are rather crude, this crude style was sometimes preferred even by officers and nobles. Apparently, they wanted to show the closeness to the people in this way. All three black and white armors in the Wallace collection are of medium quality. The polished stripes, although simple, are well executed, and are slightly recessed into the plates. The main surfaces around them are painted black. The overall impression of this armor is that it is quite simple but elegant.

It is often impossible to tell whether such armor was worn by an infantryman or a horseman. The breastplate of this armor has no holes for the spear support, which can be interpreted as evidence that it is an infantry armor. However, the medium cavalry and pistol cavalry also did not carry spears, but fought almost exclusively with firearms, so they did not need a spear stop at all.

It is possible to describe the armor from the Wallace Collection for a long time, but the volume of the article will then turn out to be outrageous. Therefore, we will stop at this for now, and continue the story about them next time.

To be continued ...
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  1. Olddetractor
    Olddetractor 27 June 2021 06: 14
    +6
    Thank! Very interesting
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 27 June 2021 18: 08
      +4
      Just now I chose the time to read the article and express my gratitude to Vyacheslav! Thank you!!!
      1. Richard
        Richard 27 June 2021 20: 36
        +5
        Personally, in Wallace's collection, it was not the weapons that struck me most, and not even his famous furniture. and what I have never met before - volumetric wax portraits. This is not the first floor


        And on the second floor is the famous - "The Lacemaker" by Netscher

        I had it in my childhood on a Soviet postage stamp
  2. demiurg
    demiurg 27 June 2021 07: 35
    +5
    Look at this splendor, and you understand why the armor disappeared.
    The blacksmith prepares one set for weeks, tries. And then some peyzanin comes along in dirty highways with a crossbow or arquebus, and spoils everything. And if you come across a cannon with buckshot ...
    1. Fat
      Fat 27 June 2021 10: 31
      +7
      Look at this splendor, and you understand why the armor disappeared. The blacksmith prepares one set for weeks, tries.

      Leave the romance ... Hmm .. Blacksmith?
      A guild master with a crowd of apprentices and apprentices, and hired workers. We made armor already on manufactory flow ... the 15th - 16th centuries is already quite capitalism, especially in cities
      Division of labor and specialization, however ...
      "Father, do you hear, chops, and I take away ..." (C)
      Classic
    2. astra wild2
      astra wild2 27 June 2021 11: 03
      +5
      "why did the armor disappear" why did it disappear - it was transformed: mine-action ones that miners wear, and cuirasses - kevlar vests
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 27 June 2021 17: 27
        +2
        Quote: Astra wild2
        "why did the armor disappear" why did it disappear - it was transformed: mine-action ones that miners wear, and cuirasses - kevlar vests

        You look at this splendor and the thought arises that all this armor is nothing more than a work of art, like the canvases of outstanding masters of painting - no practical application, only aesthetic.
        1. astra wild2
          astra wild2 27 June 2021 18: 38
          +2
          Kevlar is more than in use .. In books and films I often see
  3. Korsar4
    Korsar4 27 June 2021 07: 45
    +5
    I thought: how many man-hours of work (moreover, the work of a master) did it take for the armor?
    1. Fat
      Fat 27 June 2021 10: 43
      +5
      hi Sergey, the work of the master took exactly as much as was paid for, and the rest of the work was a flow.
      "There is no need to fall into the heresy of globalism" (C)
      Even the work of a master consists of separate operations, the tedious part of which can be entrusted to apprentices. For - technology, although not high by our standards. But hand-made Yes
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 27 June 2021 11: 45
        +4
        Yes, Andrey Borisovich. And now it is the same. A classic story about ten sheep hats.
        1. depressant
          depressant 27 June 2021 16: 04
          +2
          Yeah. From a liter of milk, 1 kg of cheese and 1 kg of sour cream. In the suburbs, a huge livestock complex was turned down and sold for a vegetable storehouse. But it does not go, the rooms are too bright. And now on sale are green potatoes with poisonous corned beef and the same onion.
          1. Korsar4
            Korsar4 27 June 2021 17: 38
            +2
            The potatoes are acceptable. But the price bites. Can not argue.

            Everything would be stable with the work.
            1. depressant
              depressant 27 June 2021 17: 50
              +3
              And this is not about our honor. We are the cartridge people. On occasion, they will be replaced, or thrown away completely for lack of use.
              1. Korsar4
                Korsar4 27 June 2021 17: 54
                +3
                Not everyone should be pyramids.
                Plant a tree.

                Or as in the song:

                “Give a ride to the woman.
                Do not ask for a name "(c).
                1. depressant
                  depressant 27 June 2021 18: 25
                  +3
                  "Give a ride to the woman ..."

                  Will stick a sharpener in your side
                  And on that will put an end!
                  wassat )))
                  Romantic!
                  1. Korsar4
                    Korsar4 27 June 2021 18: 53
                    +2
                    Now I have listened to Sukhanov's song with pleasure.
                    There is more than enough pragmatism.
                    1. depressant
                      depressant 27 June 2021 19: 36
                      +3
                      And today I reviewed the film "The Sign".
                      In the morning the sky was covered with clouds, a hurricane passed, three drops of rain fell. The space suddenly became empty and sonorous. Voices echoed between the houses. And there were unexpectedly many of them, voices. Some man was screaming hysterically and for a long time, demanding money from someone. Azerbaijani children echoed their parents leaning out of the window. The son of a plumber, a drug addict, screamed, trying to bring someone down the stairs. Residents poured into the street - to communicate, all without masks. They say for life, there are many of them, the hubbub is still there. This has never happened. Police sirens are screaming on the distant highway. As soon as they stop, others begin to howl. Something strange is going on. As if the seal of silence has been lifted, the whole house is buzzing. As if the dead had risen, forming the stream of life.
                      1. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 27 June 2021 19: 57
                        +3
                        The drops fell in my Moscow after dinner. There was a feeling that flowers were being watered on the second floor, and they missed a little.

                        At the station, the sky was overcast. From the train window one could look at the lightning.

                        In my suburbs, dry birch branches are on the asphalt.
                        This is the problem - dried birch is not the best neighbor in the wind.

                        However, as it was soon found out today

                        "The month at number eight will end" (c).

                        And it became fresher both at home and on the street.
                      2. depressant
                        depressant 27 June 2021 20: 19
                        +4
                        it became fresher both at home and on the street


                        It was gone. Will be when month number eight ends)))
                        And now the never-ending "Six". And where to get the strength to withstand the "Seven"?
                        The sun for the winter, it threatens with heat. The paradoxes of an overheated earth's surface, human bodies, feelings of irritation are multiplying.
                      3. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 27 June 2021 20: 33
                        +3
                        I am confidently ready to say that since the time of your message, month number eight has come closer to us by more than 10 minutes.
                      4. depressant
                        depressant 27 June 2021 20: 59
                        +3
                        They say that there are seconds left until the hour X)))
                      5. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 27 June 2021 21: 50
                        +2
                        I do not know. My favorite bird hour has already passed, and there is still time until the bull hour.
              2. Fat
                Fat 27 June 2021 19: 24
                +4
                hi Lyudmila Yakovlevna, do not read Faust at night, it is harmful ...
                ................ I know my appearance.
                I'm a blind worm, I'm nature's stepson
                Which swallows dust before itself
                And dies under the foot of a pedestrian.
                br-r ..
                So, head up! love
                1. depressant
                  depressant 27 June 2021 19: 44
                  +4
                  Andrey Borisovich, you are more romantic than Sergey! love )))
                  Right now I'm reading Nedorub's Friends of Friends - the final book in the Borland stalker series. And you tell me about Faust. My romance is a cynical and scary Pripyat Anomaly Zone, I do not recommend reading wassat )))
                2. depressant
                  depressant 27 June 2021 23: 24
                  +2
                  there is still time until the hour of the bull.


                  There are a wide variety of opinions about the Hour of the Ox. Some say that this is a period of time from 12 am to 4 am, others - from XNUMX am to XNUMX am.
                  But the greatest number of deaths and disasters occurs in the period from 2 to 3 nights. This is the Hour of the Ox. At this time, demons of evil are ferocious and take souls.
                  Ridiculous?
                  Surprising but true. I can hear a distant intercity highway. I listen to her hum, the singing of motors. For many years, the traffic on the highway stops at 2 a.m. and resumes at 3 a.m. Do drivers know about the Hour of the Ox? No, and have not heard. Their bodies know and fear.
                  1. Fat
                    Fat 28 June 2021 00: 56
                    +2
                    Lyudmila Yakovlevna, the question is not for me, Sergei.
                    This time from 2 to 3, when night turns into morning, it is very difficult not to fall asleep.
                    The fight against drowsiness becomes unbearable about this at least the organisms of the drivers know. I have worked at night, so I am also aware. There was a jargon in the collective "shaggy came", but without connection with the demons - a description of the state. Someone easily endures, others are not able to and "shaggy won" - the person fell asleep. Well, if not at the wheel, or in a responsible position.
                    This is my experience
                    1. depressant
                      depressant 28 June 2021 08: 07
                      +1
                      Andrei Borisovich, apparently, this is how the organisms of most people are arranged, this is some kind of unconditioned reflex.

                      The Chinese epic says: "The Earth was born in the Hour of the Ox (otherwise - the demon, at two in the morning)." The same is in Slavic beliefs: "It is darkest before dawn." There is also a Latin aphorism "Dolor ignis ante lucem" - "Fierce longing before dawn." According to Efremov, the Hour of the Bull is the most difficult time before dawn because of the physiology of the organism that has developed since primitive times and the special state of the atmosphere before dawn.
                      So 3 hours is considered the hour (death) of Christ ...
                      Interestingly, almost all wars and military operations of the 20th century began at this particular time.
  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 27 June 2021 08: 05
    0
    Thanks to Vyacheslav Olegovich and Sir Wallace!
    The first for the continuation of the most interesting cycle, and the second for collecting and preserving this collection for posterity!)))
    1. astra wild2
      astra wild2 27 June 2021 08: 18
      +2
      Good morning: "I saved this collection for posterity" in fairness, part of the armor was acquired later
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 27 June 2021 08: 20
        +3
        Well, this is a classic:
        Tretyakov Gallery, Hermitage ...
        Yes, and Nobel has been gone for a long time, and the prize is being awarded to his name.
        As for me, the main thing is a good initiative.)))
        1. astra wild2
          astra wild2 27 June 2021 10: 38
          +3
          I don’t argue
      2. Richard
        Richard 27 June 2021 22: 46
        +2
        in fairness, some of the armor was later acquired

        Vera hi
        Super curious statement.belay Couldn't it be more detailed?
        For your information: This is a private collection that was collected from 1760 to 1880 by four generations of the Marquises of Hetford and Sir Wallace, the late son of the last Marquis.
        In 1897, Lady Wallace bequeathed her late husband's meeting to the state.
        There were three conditions in the will:
        1 - the collection must be exposed to the public free of charge,
        2 - no item can be sold or even exhibited outside of Hatford House and
        3 - no item can be added to the collection.

        So what was later acquired there?
        1. astra wild2
          astra wild2 28 June 2021 13: 15
          +1
          Dmitry, I proceeded from the words of Vyacheslav Olegovich: “in photographs of the 19th and early 20th centuries.” + The Tretyakov Gallery and other museum collections. They have already exceeded their initial funds many times over.
          If not correctly understood, then about forgiveness.
          R.
          S
          I try to be self-critical, but admit my mistakes .... I DO NOT LOVE
    2. Catfish
      Catfish 27 June 2021 11: 32
      +6
      Igor, hello! hi
      I join you, only in the first place I would put Sir Wallace, because without his collection there would be no article by Vyacheslav. smile
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 27 June 2021 12: 17
        +5
        Good day. We need to be grateful to everyone who preserves our heritage.
        Sometimes I think - well, a hundred years have not passed since the war. How many were melted down, shot at shooting ranges. Units were left for museums and cinema. But there are so many museums like that!
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 27 June 2021 12: 32
          +5
          Totally agree with you. smile
        2. astra wild2
          astra wild2 27 June 2021 13: 55
          +4
          Leader, imagine yourself in the place of the post-war leadership: the Second World War ended 2-3 years ago, the country is in ruins, the warehouses are full of captured ammunition and equipment. From helmets stamped pots of cups, cheneli changed into coats, small arms and tanks? In an open-hearth oven or save. And for a fig to save, people already dream of this iron in a nightmare. Conclusion - for recycling!
          Tell me about the Victory Temple. What are they not good: Shoigu and Putin, how many small arms they turned into steps. This is deliberate!
          I like you, Putin, to put it mildly, is not sympathetic, Shoigu? I was not specifically interested in my son, my mother has other topics for conversation, but often in his conversations it flashed: sensible, and Seryoga is right, etc. He is popular among officers and teachers of schools. He is considered no worse than Ustinov.
          To be fair: in museums, small arms are behind glass, but what difference does it make what is under your feet, what is in the window. Who wants to let him look.
          I was not there, but the former battalion commander-2, was there in the summer of 18th, he liked it. And his parents and relatives are museum workers. He was a DNR himself, but for some reason he doesn't like to talk about it
          1. The leader of the Redskins
            The leader of the Redskins 27 June 2021 14: 02
            +6
            I have an ambivalent attitude towards the examples you have given.
            What is not working properly is broken - definitely into scrap, for remelting!
            But there were also excesses.
            Here, for example, is the same Wallace meeting. In those days, iron was highly prized. Imagine that people tired of the war would melt these armor into cutlery.
            Why was it considered happiness to find a horseshoe? Because the iron and the blacksmith could give you money for it or do something in everyday life.
            They saved Kubinka - well done. And Monino quietly "bends". And, God forbid, they will remember in thirty years, but it will be too late ...
            1. Korsar4
              Korsar4 27 June 2021 17: 42
              +4
              It's a shame. Another schoolboy was lucky to get to Monino.
      2. Richard
        Richard 28 June 2021 15: 45
        +2
        Hi Kostya.
        For the sake of truth, here above all we must thank the modest, Frenchwoman of an ordinary origin, Julie Amelie Charlotte, who, by the whim of fate, unexpectedly became Lady Wallace in 1871. It was then that the last of the Marquises of Hetford officially recognized her husband - his unmarried son Richard. The couple received both the inheritance of the Marquises of Hetford and their position in society.
        After the death of her husband, Lady Wallace did charity work in both England and France, and most of her art collection was left in her "will of the nation", a gesture that was unprecedented as it stipulated that admission should be free, which continued and to this day It is thanks to her that we have today the opportunity to get acquainted with this collection
        a photo -Julie Amelie Charlotte Lady Wallace
  5. BAI
    BAI 27 June 2021 13: 09
    +4
    For the article dated June 10, I cited an excerpt from an interview with one Moscow reenactor-restorer:
    For a Swiss museum, craftsmen made ammunition, relying only on the image in the picture. “I made a graphic reconstruction - there are many conventions in painting, so I had to work through everything in detail,” says Ilya. - Now museum staff use this armor for various events.».

    In museums, you can easily find remakes!
    It is obvious that the Moscow master is not the only one, as well as the only Swiss museum.
    Which, in principle, the author himself confirms:
    Besides the basic elements, made in the XNUMXth century, the armor was complemented by details of the XNUMXth century,

    The whole question is in the scope of "additions".
    1. kalibr
      27 June 2021 20: 56
      +3
      Quote: BAI
      The whole question is in the scope of "additions".

      In the Wallace collection, it is indicated in the passport of the document which detail is from where and when it was made. So for those to whom it is very important, they can present this information as well. It didn't matter to me, because it took up a lot of space in the text without much sense. But I mentioned this. They themselves do not hide anything.
  6. depressant
    depressant 27 June 2021 13: 23
    +4
    The owner of the armor shown in one of the photographs of the article was a certain Otto Henry, or "Ottheinrich" - an influential German military leader, patron of the arts, and later - an ardent champion of the Protestant Reformation.

    Actually, in German, the double consonant is pronounced as one, but very energetically. That is, Ot, as we say, sounds like Oto in German, and Otto Heinrich - Otoheinrich)))

    Otoheinrich of the Palatinate was born on April 10, 1502 in Amberg. The parents were Ruprecht the Virtuous (1481-1504) and Elisabeth von Bayern-Landshut (1478-1504), daughter of George the Rich (1455-1503). His paternal grandfather was Elector Philip the Sincere Palatinate. Otoheinrich also had a brother with a normal name Philip)))
    Orphaned at an early age, the two grandchildren of Duke George received land plots specially formed for them, but due to their young age, the brothers were placed under guardianship. Otoheinrich's guardian was his uncle, Count Palatine Frederick, with whom the child, after the death of Emperor Maximillian, went to Spain in 1519 to deliver news of events in Germany everywhere along the way. This is followed by travels to Castile, Aragon, Burgundy and the Spanish Netherlands. Soon after his return to Germany, the matured Otoheinrich set off on a journey through the Middle East to the Holy Land, simultaneously writing down his impressions in his diary. On June 5, 1521, he left Venice and on July 10, 1521 arrived by sea to Jaffa, and from there he and his retinue moved to the holy places in Bethlehem, in Jordan, were on the coast of the Sea of ​​Galilee, in Jerusalem and on the Mount of Olives. Otoheinrich was ordained a knight of the Holy Sepulcher directly in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. Home, in Palatinate-Neuburg, matured and gained impressions, the young man returned on December 16, 1521.
    Such, apparently, by that time a cultural tradition had developed. Instead of military operations in the area of ​​the Holy Sepulcher, there are tourist trips of young people from noble European families to places of military glory of their ancestors.
  7. motorized rifle
    motorized rifle 27 June 2021 13: 37
    +6



    Optimal booking angles, despite the complexity of manufacturing.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 27 June 2021 14: 03
      +4
      In tank building it is called "pike nose".
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 27 June 2021 18: 13
        +2
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        In tank building it is called "pike nose".

        Yes, Igor, I won't even dare to give out my version of what Mr. Knight calls it !!! Let there be a "shelf for a beer belly with increased protection." laughing
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 27 June 2021 18: 27
          +3
          "General's tummy")))
  8. depressant
    depressant 27 June 2021 14: 26
    +6
    In 1535, the situation with the inheritance of lands between the brothers Otoheinrich and Philip was finally resolved, and the future owner of the armor presented in the article became known as Herr von Palatinate-Neuburg and in subsequent years turned Neuburg Castle into a residential Renaissance palace. So this man tried to compensate for the lack of prestige among the more noble aristocracy. Further, the knight took part in some military campaigns, such as the feudal feud in Sickingen in 1523, as well as in the Peasant War in 1525. The profligate lifestyle of Herr von Pfalz-Neuburg led him to bankruptcy, which he tried to prevent, acting according to the method worked out over the centuries - he took out new loans. And he also had a document that became an indirect reason for the enrichment of culture due to the wonderful works of Mr. von Pfalz-Neuburg himself, namely, a bill from the estate of his grandmother Hedwig. The borrower's bill for 32 guilders, issued by the King of Poland Casimir IV on the occasion of the marriage of his daughter Hedwig to George the Bogaty, was never paid by the Polish royal court. Together with compound interest, it turned out 000 guilders, which became the reason for the trip to Poland. On November 200, 000, Mr. von Pfalz-Neuburg went to Krakow to visit his great-uncle, the Polish king Sigismund I. Well, 27 thousand guilders were returned to him, interest - no.

    However, the main cultural outcome of the trip was the fifty talented hand-painted watercolors of von Palatinate-Neuburg depicting the cities he visited. And imagine, most of these watercolors are the earliest depictions of these cities, from those that have survived to this day.
    The collection of watercolors von Palatinate-Neuburg is recognized as a cultural and historical value.
  9. Undecim
    Undecim 27 June 2021 14: 36
    +7
    Of course, I would like to see this armor in all its glory, but it still represents an extremely rare and exciting opportunity to look into the process of making such armor.


    Very similar armor from the same master, in the same style and at the same time.
  10. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 27 June 2021 16: 25
    +5
    I'm sorry, Vyacheslav Olegovich, but at the moment Cecil Rhodes' machine guns have prevailed over art.
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    1. Korsar4
      Korsar4 27 June 2021 17: 46
      +3
      You can change the situation. It's not that hard.
    2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 27 June 2021 18: 16
      +5
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      I'm sorry, Vyacheslav Olegovich, but at the moment Cecil Rhodes' machine guns have prevailed over art.
      Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!

      Yeah, although you can look at progress in different ways. The musket killed the armored knight, the machine gun made mankind invent the tank !!!
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 27 June 2021 18: 54
        +4
        Voloshin recalled more than once:

        “Civil rights were written by a kulak.
        The sword is a state right.
        Gunpowder ... erased them
        And he created the Military Regulations. "