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Bundestag deputy accused the German government of preparing a war against Russia

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Member of the Bundestag with gratitude to the Red Army



The German media are discussing the statement of Sevim Dagdelen, representing the Die Linke ("Left") party in the Bundestag. A member of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the German Parliament accused the current German government of "preparing for a war against Russia."

Sevim Dagdelen points out that Germany is more and more actively involved in exercises on the eastern borders of NATO, deploying its contingents in Poland and the Baltic states - in the immediate vicinity of the borders of Russia. According to the opposition German politician, in such a situation it is quite possible to understand the concern that Moscow shows when NATO exercises are held several dozen kilometers from the Russian borders.

Sevim Dagdelen in an interview with the German press:

The Defender of Europe 2021 military exercise near Russia's western borders can be seen as moral mobilization and preparation for a major war. Otherwise, what is the purpose of these exercises more and more often being carried out at the Russian borders?

Dagdelen criticized NATO's position, which continues to view Russia as an enemy. The same policy, in her opinion, is practiced by some of the politicians in the current composition of the German federal government.

Dagdelen cites a statement by German Defense Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, where he said that Germany is going to fight for democracy "shoulder to shoulder with the Americans, since in Europe the enemy is Russia, and in the Indo-Pacific region - China." This statement was made during a visit to one of the US Navy warships on the island of Guam.

Sevim Dagdelen noted that the minister allows inappropriate statements, since one cannot be considered an opponent of the one with whom trade is estimated in total at more than a third of a trillion euros.



The MP noted that in Berlin for some reason they do not fight for democracy at home and forget that there are countries that violate international law among NATO countries. An ethnic Turkish woman cited Turkey as an example, which, under Erdogan, she believes, violates the principles of freedom and democracy.

Sevim Dagdelen on Facebook:

There can be only one lesson from the terrible barbarity of war with its robbery and devastation: friendship with Russia and other former Soviet republics should become a component of German politics. Instead, German-Russian relations have reached a low point. Hardly a day goes by without new sanctions against Russia. And this, of course, is an unlearned lesson in the terrible barbarity of the war against the Soviet Union, which was unleashed 80 years ago.

Sevim Dagdelen thanked the soldiers of the Red Army for the liberation of Europe from Nazism.
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  1. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 22 June 2021 15: 46
    +21
    There are also sane people in Germany, and that's good.
    1. poquello
      poquello 22 June 2021 15: 51
      +3
      Quote: Sands Career General
      There are also sane people in Germany, and that's good.

      there is not one of them
      1. xorek
        xorek 22 June 2021 16: 18
        +15
        friendship with Russia and other former Soviet republics should become part of German politics.

        Most of all this is afraid of the United States and K! Oh, the Germans, history does not teach you anything .. And again they set you up.
        Well done woman, that's who you need instead of the old woman Merkel (the former leader of the "Friendship with the USSR" movement of the GDR)
        1. poquello
          poquello 22 June 2021 16: 30
          +5
          Quote: xorek
          friendship with Russia and other former Soviet republics should become part of German politics.

          Most of all this is afraid of the United States and K! Oh, the Germans, history does not teach you anything .. And again they set you up.
          Well done woman, that's who you need instead of the old woman Merkel (the former leader of the "Friendship with the USSR" movement of the GDR)

          Well, the Americans dream of the power of the Greens in Germany, and whether they bury their brains in the Germans or not is unknown, although the bourgeois people are chilling slowly, are they chilling them?
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 22 June 2021 17: 07
            +3
            Quote: poquello
            although the bourgeois people chuhaya on the sly, is it chuhaet?

            The people are bourgeois, but they know how to count money, and they also know how to calculate in advance. I do not count on political conscience, but the economic component can fully affect!
        2. barclay
          barclay 22 June 2021 16: 59
          +17
          The woman is well done. Yes, they will not allow such to come to power. And if it breaks through with some kind of destiny, then they will align and direct where required. The Anglo-Saxons have worked out technologies.
          1. xorek
            xorek 22 June 2021 17: 07
            +4
            Quote: barclay
            The woman is well done. Yes, they will not allow such to come to power. And if it breaks through with some kind of destiny, then they will align and direct where required. The Anglo-Saxons have worked out technologies.

            Here you are right, now this deputy will begin to press and persecute .. What happened more than once, with those who tried to speak well about Russia!
            Here everything is worked out clearly by the Anglo-Saxons and others.
            Quote: poquello
            Well, the Americans dream of the power of the Greens in Germany, and whether they bury their brains in the Germans or not is unknown, although the bourgeois people are chilling slowly, are they chilling them?

            Maybe it will, but it will be too late again .. And this time Russia does not intend to liberalize. We have experienced too powerful pressure and the main desecration of the memory of our people hi
            1. poquello
              poquello 22 June 2021 18: 23
              +1
              Quote: xorek
              And this time Russia does not intend to be liberal. We have experienced too powerful pressure and the main desecration of the memory of our people

              even did not understand, were going to stuff the face of a German for the fact that dill from the United States revive fascism?
              1. xorek
                xorek 22 June 2021 19: 30
                +2
                Quote: poquello
                Quote: xorek
                And this time Russia does not intend to be liberal. We have experienced too powerful pressure and the main desecration of the memory of our people

                even did not understand, were going to stuff the face of a German for the fact that dill from the United States revive fascism?

                Well, like that wink The Germans, too, are not fluffy in this matter. They also want revenge, like the Banderaites .. And the United States has one task. As before. negative
                1. poquello
                  poquello 22 June 2021 20: 22
                  0
                  Quote: xorek
                  The Germans are also not fluffy in this business They also want revenge

                  Oh well
                  “Those who were responsible for this war, trying to justify their nationalist delirium with German culture and civilization, referring to Goethe and Schiller, Bach and Beethoven, defamed the entire civilization, violated any principles of humanity and law. The war of the Germans against the Soviet Union was the barbarism of the murderers. No matter how hard it was for us, we must remember this! The memory of this hell, of the absolute enmity and dehumanization of other people - this memory remains a duty for us Germans and a warning to the whole world "Frank-Walter Steinmeier

                  and Schroeder has already been asked?
                  1. xorek
                    xorek 22 June 2021 20: 26
                    -1
                    Quote: poquello
                    and Schroeder has already been asked?

                    We will ask everyone, sooner or later, and with people like you in the first place negative ..
                    1. poquello
                      poquello 22 June 2021 20: 41
                      -1
                      Quote: xorek
                      Quote: poquello
                      and Schroeder has already been asked?

                      We will ask everyone, sooner or later, and with people like you in the first place negative ..

                      Policeman Petrenko? Do you take bribes?
      2. NIKN
        NIKN 22 June 2021 17: 02
        -5
        since one cannot be considered an opponent with whom the total value is estimated at more than a third of a trillion euros.
        Hitler also received a lot from the USSR, trains arrived until the end of June 41st.
        1. xorek
          xorek 22 June 2021 20: 36
          +2
          Quote: NIKNN
          since one cannot be considered an opponent with whom the total value is estimated at more than a third of a trillion euros.
          Hitler also received a lot from the USSR, trains arrived until the end of June 41st.

          Well, the USSR also learned a lot from the Germans and received equipment, etc.
          In Lipetsk, Luftwaffe pilots trained together with ours .. And they did not bomb his bastards .. Typically noble! Oh well .
          The essence of all this, Stalin delayed the war with Germany to the maximum and hoped to the last that there was still a year or two in reserve, but alas hi
          Now again, something like this is happening .. Russia does not want to fight as much as possible, but everyone is pushing us into a fight .. Again, all the same world characters, that's what's interesting! angry
          1. boni592807
            boni592807 23 June 2021 13: 55
            0
            хorek, Yesterday, 20:36, NEW - "... The essence of all this, Stalin delayed the war with Germany to the maximum and hoped to the last that there was still a year or two left, but alas, hi
            Now again, something like this is coming .. "


            You are right story [/ i], [b] is a warning to the FUTURE! soldier Let's forget or not draw conclusions and "Svidomo" cartoon about the Second World War can become a reality bully ... The same story of the Second World War showed: ".. Trust in God, but do not make a mistake yourself ...". angry Our border guards and "..."In June 1941, objectively assessing the military-political situation, the People's Commissariat of the USSR Navy Nikolai Kuznetsov ordered to increase the combat readiness of the fleets. The ships took the necessary supplies, put in order the material part, stood in readiness for battle. On the evening before the start of the war, they went to the highest degree of readiness. " “At about three o'clock in the morning, the Germans bombed Sevastopol, and the command of the Black Sea Fleet reported this to Kuznetsov. He, in turn, reported to the People's Commissar of Defense Tymoshenko and the Secretary of the Central Committee Malenkov, and then, without waiting for sanctions from above, he gave the order to set up minefields. At five in the morning the people's commissar on his own responsibility passed the message of the German attack on the USSR to the fleets and ordered to repel the aggression by force of arms " "Thanks to the actions of Nikolai Kuznetsov, in the first days of the war, losses in the fleet, despite all the efforts of the Germans, were minimal." On June 22, not a single warship from the Navy was lost.
            R.S. Everything is clear to everyone, nothing new. The question is where and when. It would be nice to have a lock in the house and in the household. And "think" about the Brandenburg 800. However, there are many everywhere (for example, Novosibirsk and in Moscow with traffic police). hi
      3. Lionnvrsk
        Lionnvrsk 22 June 2021 17: 53
        +4
        Quote: poquello
        Quote: Sands Career General
        There are also sane people in Germany, and that's good.

        there is not one of them

        I remember there were two Germans in the class. The most disciplined and most importantly responsible students. Of the entire socialist camp, they were the most reliable. Yugoslavs do not care, Cubans are funny goofs, Bulgarians are not sincere, Poles and normal were also biliously hissing, Czechoslovakians were apart.
        1. xorek
          xorek 22 June 2021 20: 54
          +6
          Quote: LIONnvrsk
          I remember there were two Germans in the class. The most disciplined and most importantly responsible students. Of the entire socialist camp, they were the most reliable.

          That's for sure, all sorts of Czechs, Poles, Romanians were terribly afraid of them .. When the coup attempt began in Czechoslovakia, our tank columns literally stopped any liberalism shouting and throwing stones and bottles of gasoline and even fired in our direction.
          But when literally one motorcycle with a machine gunner of the GDR troops came to the rescue (they were also there with us for one, their troops were walking on the other side) and they barked something to this crowd in German ... They literally cleared the road in half an hour (this is me memoirs of a Soviet I read an officer ... and more than one). soldier
          And we betrayed the GDR, or rather a humpback with ebn .. That is, that is, conscience gnaws strongly.
          And what kind of secret service they had, the level of the KGB .. Putin remembers that!
          1. Lionnvrsk
            Lionnvrsk 22 June 2021 21: 11
            0
            Quote: xorek
            That's for sure, all sorts of Czechs, Poles, Romanians were terribly afraid of them

            Especially the Poles!
            Quote: xorek
            But when literally one motorcycle with a machine gunner of the GDR troops came to the rescue

            Yes, the Germans did not stand on ceremony with the rebels!
            Quote: xorek
            And we betrayed the GDR, or rather a humpback with ebn .. That is, that is, conscience gnaws strongly.
            And what kind of secret service did they have, the level of the KGB ..

            Yes, it's a shame, but it is! yes
          2. Peak
            Peak 23 June 2021 07: 59
            -1
            Quote: xorek
            That's for sure, all sorts of Czechs, Poles, Romanians were terribly afraid of them .. When the coup attempt began in Czechoslovakia, our tank columns literally stopped any liberalism shouting and throwing stones and bottles of gasoline and even fired in our direction.
            But when literally one motorcycle with a machine gunner of the GDR troops came to the rescue (they were also there with us for one, their troops were on the other side) and they barked something to this crowd in German ... They literally cleared the road in half an hour (I read the memoirs of a Soviet officer ... and more than one ).


            Where do you find this pseudo-historical nonsense, and even with reference to the memories of the alleged participants - eyewitnesses?

            In general, the number of troops of the Warsaw Pact member states brought into Czechoslovakia was:

            - USSR - 18 motorized rifle, tank and airborne divisions, 22 aviation and helicopter regiments, about 170 people;

            - Poland - 5 infantry divisions, up to 40 people;

            - GDR - motorized rifle and tank divisions, up to 15 people in total (but at the last moment it was decided to abandon the entry of NPA units into Czechoslovakia, they played the role of a reserve on the border, and directly in Czechoslovakia there was only an operational group of the NNA of the GDR of several dozen servicemen );

            - Hungary - 8th motorized rifle division, separate units, total 12 people;

            - Bulgaria - the 12th and 22nd Bulgarian motorized rifle regiments, with a total strength of 2164 people. and one Bulgarian tank battalion armed with 26 T-34s.
    2. URAL72
      URAL72 22 June 2021 15: 57
      +10
      Well, it's easier for her to understand this, - an ethnic Turkish woman. But still, well done, I was not afraid. Krasatulka laughing
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 22 June 2021 16: 57
        +6
        Quote: URAL72
        Well, it's easier for her to understand this, - an ethnic Turkish woman. But still, well done, I was not afraid. Krasatulka laughing

        Turkey during the Second World War held a position of neutrality and formally joined the anti-Hitler coalition only at the last stage of the war in Europe - on February 23, 1945, Turkey declared war on Germany, but did not take part in hostilities.
        The grandfather of this girl was sitting in his Turkish village or city without work, but then the War ended and he went to Germany as a guest worker. There he rebuilt destroyed Berlin or Hamburg, where he remained to live forever. So she became a German citizen. And the soldiers of the Red Army for the liberation of Europe from Nazism are thanked by everyone who has a head on their shoulders, not only for wearing a hat.
      2. xorek
        xorek 22 June 2021 17: 16
        +2
        Quote: URAL72
        Well, it's easier for her to understand this, - an ethnic Turkish woman. But still, well done, I was not afraid. Krasatulka laughing

        Oleg was not afraid! After all, he knows that the persecution will begin, although she may have sensed that soon something will change in world politics, so she risked catching a wave ..
        Perhaps there will be a wave of such statements soon.
    3. Borik
      Borik 22 June 2021 16: 05
      +2
      Sand Quarry General (Zhora)
      Today, 15: 46
      NEW
      +1
      There are also sane people in Germany, and that's good.


      But for some reason this sane woman is not German, but an ethnic Turkish woman. But another German woman stands up for how the Germans will fight shoulder to shoulder with mattress mats for democracy in the world with Russia and China.
      1. Sands Careers General
        Sands Careers General 22 June 2021 16: 11
        +6
        In any country there are assimilated foreigners or ethnic groups. It does not matter.
        What matters is their actions within this country, of which they are citizens.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 22 June 2021 16: 22
        -1
        Quote: Borik
        But for some reason this sane woman is not German, but an ethnic Turkish woman. But another German woman stands up for how the Germans will fight shoulder to shoulder with mattress mats for democracy in the world with Russia and China.

        Genes are not going anywhere, this is by birth.
        1. isv000
          isv000 22 June 2021 16: 47
          +6
          Quote: tihonmarine
          But another German woman stands up for how the Germans will fight shoulder to shoulder with mattress mats for democracy in the world with Russia and China.

          We won't even have to learn German - halt, hand hoh and tsuryuk are recorded on our subcortex ...
          1. Ruslan Sulima
            Ruslan Sulima 22 June 2021 17: 17
            +2
            We won't even have to learn German - halt, hand hoh and tsuryuk are recorded on our subcortex ...

            The main thing is that with the words "Fritz kaput, my mother, children, teacher, nicht schissen," the hand continues to pull the trigger. Otherwise, after a while you will have to hear "Kurka, egg, shnel" ...
            1. Sands Careers General
              Sands Careers General 22 June 2021 17: 39
              +1
              They do not pull the trigger, but the trigger))

              Although I agree with the words. Moreover, today is the day of sorrow. The War began today. And five of my grandfathers did not return from it, they disappeared in the first months.
            2. isv000
              isv000 22 June 2021 17: 43
              +1
              [quote = Ruslan Sulima] Otherwise, again after a while you will have to hear "Kurka, egg, shnel" .... [/ quote
              You can already hear it in Donbass, but not in German, but in a doggy style (sorry, dogs) ... winked
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                1. isv000
                  isv000 22 June 2021 18: 05
                  +1
                  Quote: Ruslan Sulima
                  Somehow this state of affairs has already been pissed off.

                  The most offensive thing is that those who went through the collapse of the USSR, and as they could, pulled their families and the remnants of the country were thrown as waste material. Many have already perished ... It is already difficult for those who remain to collect * a handful of money to defend this system, this elite. Looking at everything that happens and young people do not burn with enthusiasm - they are driven into a corner with one mortgage in millions of sums. A little more and there will be almost no one to fight for "them" - it is difficult to go into battle for Karabasov - Barabasov ... hi
                  1. Ruslan Sulima
                    Ruslan Sulima 22 June 2021 18: 17
                    +1
                    A little more and there will be almost no one to fight for "them" - it is difficult to go into battle for Karabasov - Barabasov ... hi

                    You are not from Donbass)
                    It's not about the Karabases-Barabas, it's secondary, the main thing is that the memory has not lost its memory of what the so-called ukro-liberators did in 2014. And young people, who at the beginning of the whole mess were figs and nifiga, are pulling up. By 60 percent, the combatant personnel have now been renewed. And so yes, there is already fatigue, but something peaceful on the horizon is not visible)
                    1. isv000
                      isv000 22 June 2021 18: 40
                      +1
                      [quote = Ruslan Sulima] [quote] And yes, there is already fatigue, but something peaceful is not visible on the horizon) [/ quote]
                      I am a citizen of Nizhny Novgorod. You have every chance of becoming the second Transnistria. With a trained army that is superior to the Ukrop army and has our support behind it, from which you can really get tired. People have been waiting for seven years, a referendum was held on joining Russia, and we are all looking back at something ... On the one hand, it was necessary to grab everything at once, seven troubles - one answer, and on the other, it would become a reason for a big war. .. winked
                      1. Ruslan Sulima
                        Ruslan Sulima 22 June 2021 18: 59
                        +1
                        You have every chance of becoming the second Transnistria.

                        Yes, this understanding came even when the Donetsk regional administration was taken. Someone wore pink glasses, but even then they said, get ready for war. Yes, what a war, la-la-poplar, we are like Crimea, Zaporozhye, Kherson Odessa with us ...
                        Well, you know about the results. And so, it is from those who hoped that this is all a game so adult, and now those who begin to whine have turned out.
                        By the way, hello to the Nizhny Novgorod region! Our relatives live there in the Kulebaksky district, the younger wife took my daughter there when it was hot here)
                      2. isv000
                        isv000 22 June 2021 19: 03
                        +1
                        Always welcome! Not in that sense, but it's the same hot here today - +35 ... hi
    4. samarin1969
      samarin1969 22 June 2021 18: 38
      +1
      Quote: Borik
      Sand Quarry General (Zhora)
      Today, 15: 46
      NEW
      +1
      There are also sane people in Germany, and that's good.


      But for some reason this sane woman is not German, but an ethnic Turkish woman. But another German woman stands up for how the Germans will fight shoulder to shoulder with mattress mats for democracy in the world with Russia and China.

      The answer is simple. In the war, the Germans and Russians came together with their allies. This was not a war between fascists and communists. It was a war of peoples for a place on Earth. About the "liberation of Europe" - this is complete nonsense. It does not matter. what to write about the "liberation of France from Napoleon." Anti-fascists in that Europe were like gays in a Russian village.
      ps About the "turnover" between Germany and the Russian Federation is nonsense. This is a TNC process that has nothing to do with the interests of Russians and Germans.
  2. APASUS
    APASUS 22 June 2021 16: 09
    +1
    Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
    There are still sane people in Germany

    Probably not in Germany itself, but in the Turkish diaspora in Germany.
    ethnic turkish
    I think this factor is still decisive.
    1. isv000
      isv000 22 June 2021 18: 43
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      Probably not in Germany itself, but in the Turkish diaspora in Germany.

      Erdogan could use the ruling party in the Bundestag from the diaspora ... lol
  3. 1976AG
    1976AG 22 June 2021 20: 25
    0
    Quote: Sands Career General
    There are also sane people in Germany, and that's good.

    The bad news is that they are not doing politics.
  4. RealPilot
    RealPilot 24 June 2021 00: 37
    0
    She clearly WANTS TO LIVE!
    And this is commendable.

    A real attack on Russia will lead to the death of Germany and other European countries. Fast and inglorious ...
    The weapon is different now. Nuclear, tactical to begin with, as the last warning before using a strategic one!
  • Orange bigg
    Orange bigg 22 June 2021 15: 47
    +4
    Dagdelen cites a statement by German Defense Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, where he said that Germany is going to fight for democracy "shoulder to shoulder with the Americans, since in Europe the enemy is Russia, and in the Indo-Pacific region - China." This statement was made during a visit to one of the US Navy warships on the island of Guam.

    The German Ministry of Defense says what the Americans want to hear from it, another thing is that due to the current state of the German army, Germany is unlikely to be able to help the Americans against Russia and China. It is rather more a slogan about unity with America.
    1. Kurare
      Kurare 22 June 2021 15: 53
      +3
      Quote: OrangeBigg
      German Defense Ministry says what Americans want to hear from it

      The political career of Kramp-Karrenbauer is practically over, as many shoals as she pushed ... Now she urgently needs to earn points and a "golden parachute".
    2. Cananecat
      Cananecat 22 June 2021 16: 01
      +4
      Quote: OrangeBigg
      another thing is that due to the current state of the German army, Germany is unlikely to be able to help the Americans against Russia and China

      Right now, nothing at all? In the event of a war, NATO will mobilize everything that is part of the alliance. If you think about it, the summarily European NATO is quantitatively superior to the forces of the Russian Federation on the western borders. Another thing is that some countries will sabotage a possible conflict.
      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 22 June 2021 16: 11
        +4
        If you think about it, the summarily European NATO is quantitatively superior to the forces of the Russian Federation on the western borders.

        If we estimate, then in total the forces of the Russian Federation are quantitatively superior to the forces of NATO on its eastern flank. Don't cheat.
        .In the event of a war, NATO will mobilize everything that is part of the alliance.

        In the April 2018 raid on Syria, the United States struggled to mobilize only France and Britain. The rest dodged.
        1. Cananecat
          Cananecat 22 June 2021 16: 18
          0
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          The rest dodged.

          The rest were told that they were not getting Syrian oil.
      2. K-50
        K-50 22 June 2021 17: 02
        +6
        Quote: Canecat
        Right now, nothing at all? In the event of a war, NATO will mobilize everything that is part of the alliance.

        You are forgetting one thing. Nobody will save them again and free them from anything. The goal will be to inflict unacceptable damage, in the shortest possible time and the maximum amount.
        Germany and other FSA "satellites" will simply cease to exist as a nation, nationality, or state. Finally and irrevocably!
        Why?
        Tired !!! am
        Each time, having recovered from another slap in the face of Russia, these jackals begin to bend their hostile policy towards Russia in a new way. To reproach and harm in every way. Do they really think that the patience of the Russian people is limitless, or are they just hoping for it?
        So in the event of their hostilities against our country, you can delete them from History.
        What you seek, you will find, what you sow, that you will also reap!
        This is described in their religion, but sometimes it is a pity that they begin to forget about religion, but they could still live. lol
        1. Andrey Shiryaev
          Andrey Shiryaev 23 June 2021 12: 16
          0
          Golden words, Yuri Venediktovich wassat
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 22 June 2021 17: 09
        +1
        Quote: Canecat
        Another thing is that some countries will sabotage a possible conflict.

        And the most reliable allies for the United States will be the former countries of the USSR and the CMEA.
    3. poquello
      poquello 22 June 2021 16: 33
      +2
      Quote: OrangeBigg
      due to the current state of the German army, Germany is unlikely to be able to help the Americans against Russia and China.

      ) and there is a suspicion that the Germans are satisfied with this
      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 22 June 2021 16: 35
        +2
        First of all, the Americans are satisfied. They are there to decide which of the allies is what is possible and what is not, to the best of their ability.
        1. poquello
          poquello 22 June 2021 16: 39
          +2
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          First of all, the Americans are satisfied. They are there to decide which of the allies is what is possible and what is not, to the best of their ability.

          it, the Americans just do not like it, but since Germany is a forming EU country, they gently rock the boat
      2. isv000
        isv000 22 June 2021 16: 59
        +3
        Quote: poquello
        and there is a suspicion that the Germans are satisfied

        Birch crosses are too fresh in my memory ...
        1. poquello
          poquello 22 June 2021 17: 05
          +3
          Quote: isv000
          Quote: poquello
          and there is a suspicion that the Germans are satisfied

          Birch crosses are too fresh in my memory ...

          rather unwillingness to fight according to someone else's wish, two world wars and both times the Germans were pitted against the Russians by the British
    4. tank64rus
      tank64rus 22 June 2021 17: 06
      +2
      Such statements are liked by those who saw the barracks and the trench only from the window of a personal car. We must ask a German who fought and returned from Afgan if he wants to continue this with the Russians.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 22 June 2021 15: 52
    +5
    Sevim Dagdelen thanked the soldiers of the Red Army for the liberation of Europe from Nazism
    What can I say, a person's memory is all right and she taught history. A great rarity in modern times.
    1. cniza
      cniza 22 June 2021 16: 32
      +4
      It's good that such sparks slip through, so hope is alive ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 June 2021 18: 37
        +1
        It is not at all clear what, who will win ???
        All sorts of sick people behave painfully aggressively ... I just want to remember the wisdom "GOOD TO BE WITH FISTS"!
        In the meantime, they have a vacation in durkas, count it everywhere ... the contingent has not just crawled over ... everywhere, it aggressively imposes its own on EVERYONE ELSE!
        1. cniza
          cniza 22 June 2021 18: 49
          +2
          And the sick and not smart always behave aggressively, this is not the worst thing, the main thing would be to remove them from power ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 22 June 2021 19: 02
            +1
            Quote: cniza
            the main thing would be to remove them from power ...

            The problem ... they did not then climb into power, so that they could be easily thrown out of there!
            1. cniza
              cniza 22 June 2021 20: 54
              +2
              This is understandable, but there is no other option ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 22 June 2021 21: 35
                +2
                Now only themselves, themselves ... from our side, they do not want to listen to anything.
  • spirit
    spirit 22 June 2021 16: 11
    +1
    What kind of war? The Bundeswehr in its current state cannot even deal with the local Turks) and the doctrine is normal, there must always be an enemy with whom you can frighten your population, the Kims have been waging a non-existent war for more than one generation, purely for the domestic consumer hi The Bundeswehr has long ceased to be perceived as a real force
    1. Alex_1973
      Alex_1973 22 June 2021 16: 38
      +3
      0
      What kind of war? The Bundeswehr in its current state even with the local Turks cannot cope) and the teaching is normal, there must always be an enemy with whom you can frighten your population, the Kims have been waging a non-existent war for more than one generation, purely for the domestic consumer hi The Bundeswehr as a real force no one perceives for a long time
      And what was the Reichswehr at one time not forgotten? And with what pitiful forces did Hitler occupy the Rhineland? And how did it all end up in the end?
      So do not underestimate the enemy and count as idiots.
      But your defense must be constantly strengthened, the enemy is not asleep. But the USSR was seriously preparing for war, and we somehow carelessly. Yes, we have serious developments in the field of armaments, but how ready is our industry to get on a war footing? How quickly can we scale up production of critical products. I don’t know about you, but I have strong doubts that we will be able to quickly deploy all this.
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 22 June 2021 17: 21
        +2
        it makes no sense for the industry to get on a war footing, the war lasts for time missile flights
        1. Alex_1973
          Alex_1973 22 June 2021 17: 24
          0
          Nastia Makarova (Nastia Makarova)
          it makes no sense for the industry to get on a war footing, the war lasts for time missile flights
          Not the fact that everything will end in one blow, Yugoslavia is an example of this. Yes, and missiles should be in abundance, otherwise you can shoot everything in the first hours of the war.
          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 22 June 2021 17: 52
            -2
            bad example
        2. Sauron80
          Sauron80 22 June 2021 17: 33
          +1
          Do we have enough missiles? And who and how will produce them in wartime? Indeed, according to the experience of the Second World War, the industry wins. The tigers were good, but there weren't many of them. But the T-34 was stamped 34000 units, in my opinion. So it's good to dream of a missile war sitting on the couch, but I'm afraid the reality won't be like that.
          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 22 June 2021 17: 51
            -1
            1-2 missiles for Germany will be enough)))) everyone understands this, therefore there will be no such wars, now proxy wars, mini wars and economic wars
  • Artem76
    Artem76 22 June 2021 16: 12
    +2
    Hardly anyone there heard it at all ...

    "Western civilization" is looking for "cannon fodder" who will lead the campaign against Russia ... But lately there are few fools, and Ukraine is not capable of this in the foreseeable future (everyone already understands the reasons). The Germans have grown wiser, and it is not even defeats in two MVs and the victims are stopping them, but the fact that after the defeat they will again have to pay indemnities for whole generations, they have reduced their arrogance ... someone else's back, and something completely different with their breasts and into the attack .... Naglo-Saxons, nope, they always hound others, but so far they have not succeeded ... the Americans - yes, the same thing (the same insolence), one thing is the "aborigines" they are being driven to the desert, to lead a completely different flock (no matter how they miss, ... the leader is old) ...
    In general, the "jackals" huddled together, but the ringleader (read "the scapegoat") cannot be found ... So they rub at the borders, ....
  • tarakan
    tarakan 22 June 2021 16: 25
    +2
    For work in Germany, I respect Kazakhs (who moved in 1991) and Turks (German citizens)
    Enrage "true Aryans" and Poles
    PS Poles of the "old model" are normal.
    When there is a minority in the collective of Poles, they are "their own guy", but if they are in the majority, then you remember Cherchel
  • cniza
    cniza 22 June 2021 16: 31
    +4
    Sevim Dagdelen thanked the soldiers of the Red Army for the liberation of Europe from Nazism.


    And thank you for not being afraid to remind everyone who is too presumptuous ...
  • Silinvv
    Silinvv 22 June 2021 16: 31
    +2
    Make no illusions. Everyone earns their profits as best they can. I lived in Germany, do not think that they are happy about "liberation from fascism". They just lost this match, and since they were playing with lives, they got a blow to the head for the loss. I assure you, if this fascist bastard had won, these same burghers would have gladly used Eastern Europe as slaves. Although I lived there, I speak German fluently, the whole family drives German cars, there is no love for this nation.
  • isv000
    isv000 22 June 2021 16: 52
    +2
    The German was no longer the same. At his house they bully his own women and he yells at the police. I think in winter, in our open spaces, it will not last long ... bully
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus 22 June 2021 17: 01
    +2
    The Germans, like no one else, should know that for June 22, May 9 comes. This is the Law of History.
  • gorskova.irina
    gorskova.irina 22 June 2021 17: 42
    +2
    She's right. BUT! Germany is an occupied country. And therefore it fulfills all the owner's wishes.
  • brazzers
    brazzers 22 June 2021 18: 04
    +1
    History does not teach anything about NATO and the EU in full
  • Yves762
    Yves762 22 June 2021 18: 14
    0
    what Isn't Frau speculating.?.
    Is the current level of the Bundeswehr not far from the minimum necessary to ensure independence, sovereignty and security (and, in general, simple subjectivity) at the international level? request
  • Alexey Koshkarov
    Alexey Koshkarov 22 June 2021 18: 20
    +2
    At least one sane deputy who is in no hurry to spend his people in the fire of a nuclear war
  • AshPoseidon
    AshPoseidon 22 June 2021 21: 41
    +1
    Yes, there are women in German villages. Well done. good
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 23 June 2021 01: 11
    0
    Bundestag deputy accused the German government of preparing a war against Russia
    Like this ! Neither more nor less!
  • Nataliyayaya
    Nataliyayaya 23 June 2021 06: 27
    0
    Beauty! And clever girl! So is Sarah Wagenknecht.
  • Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 23 June 2021 06: 29
    0
    ***
    ... How many children have their childhood returned,
    Gave joy and spring
    Ordinary Soviet Army
    People who won the war!

    And in Berlin, on a festive date,
    Was erected to stand centuries
    Monument to Soviet soldier
    With the girl rescued on hands.

    He stands as a symbol of our glory,
    Like a lighthouse shining in the darkness.
    This is he, a soldier of my power,
    Protects peace throughout the earth ...
    ---
    Monument in Berlin - G. Rublev
    ***
  • Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 23 June 2021 07: 58
    +2
    If it were not for the US policy, then everything would be fine in Europe (and in the world), and even Great Britain would not be able to do anything, tk. crushed completely.
  • lescha.kazakov
    lescha.kazakov 23 June 2021 11: 44
    0
    We took Berlin twice - Let's take the third ... Stalin I.V. Let's take it for the fourth time !!!!!
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 23 June 2021 13: 20
    0
    Germany, as it was then, was occupied by the fascists only by the Amerzian, the western from the hands of Hitler immediately passed to them, the eastern Judas surrendered.
  • Nik19755
    Nik19755 23 June 2021 17: 25
    0
    It looks like our Stalin was kind that he did not exterminate but - kept these purebred - RATS. Rats must be destroyed because the rat epidemic is spreading.
  • zenion
    zenion 23 June 2021 17: 40
    0
    It is not clear why the German left gets involved in the capitalist market. Once capitalists, then war is inevitable. Capitalists get fat from blood.
  • 1536
    1536 24 June 2021 06: 51
    0
    Thanks for the warning, as they say. But before attacking Russia in Germany, they must set fire to the Reichstag (it's good that the Germans closed all their nuclear power plants), declare the governor-general in the east, and someone from the German government must necessarily fly to Britain for "permanent residence". So far, this has not been observed. The impression is that the Germans are gaining value in doing business with Russian entrepreneurs and the Russian government in order to get preferences.