"There is no miniature reconnaissance equipment in Russia": Western press on the reasons for the creation of a new orbital station

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"There is no miniature reconnaissance equipment in Russia": Western press on the reasons for the creation of a new orbital station

The Russian military-industrial complex has a number of bottlenecks, including optical systems. This deficiency in the technological potential of the defense industry negatively affects the intelligence capabilities of the RF Armed Forces.

So, in view of the absence of small-sized optical equipment in comparison with Western countries, the efficiency of observation from satellites suffers. According to Shephard, in this regard, Russia needs a much more massive space platform capable of accommodating large optical systems, such as an orbital station:



The lack of miniature reconnaissance equipment in Russia, comparable in quality to Western ones, will make it possible to conduct more effective geospatial reconnaissance than is possible from satellites.


As indicated in the Western press, the isolation of Russia from the ISS will make it possible to engage in military activities and experiments away from international observers.

For these reasons, the Russian Federation is actively working on a program to create its own orbital station. It is expected that the cosmonauts' stay on it will be of a periodic nature, as was done on the Soviet "Salutes".
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  1. -13
    19 June 2021 19: 41
    Just don't tell Rogozin about it. laughing
    1. +14
      19 June 2021 19: 44
      Yes, they are just jealous!

      So I believe: we will have a new orbital station!

      PS Walked today at VDNKh. I saw a monument to Korolev and other designers and astronauts.
      We succeeded in creating the branch of astronautics in the most difficult post-war period. It will work now.
      1. -23
        19 June 2021 19: 50
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        So I believe: we will have a new orbital station!

        Someone believes, someone doubts. In the meantime, Roscosmos operates:
        Roscosmos kidnapped millions intended to send Americans to the ISS
        https://lenta.ru/news/2021/06/07/snova_pohitili/
        It never happened, as they say ...
        1. +5
          19 June 2021 20: 13
          Colleague, do you believe such a publication as Lenta.ru? Then quote better ,, Rain, there is a little more truth. hi
          1. -6
            19 June 2021 20: 32
            You can go to the Yandex news section. Purely Russian search engine.
            Oddly enough, there is absolutely similar information.
            1. KCA
              +10
              19 June 2021 21: 43
              Shta? Is Yandex a purely Russian search engine? Let's start with the fact that it is registered in the Netherlands, you can easily find information about legal entities and individuals - the largest shareholders in the Yandex search engine
              1. -13
                19 June 2021 22: 07
                Quote: KCA
                Shta? Is Yandex a purely Russian search engine?

                Sputnik is a Russian search engine! After all, everyone uses it, right?
                And I want to say to the minus ones:
                Sorry to have prevented you from believing in the domestic station, ̶д̶е̶н̶ь̶г̶и̶ ̶п̶р̶я̶т̶а̶т̶ь̶. We are strong by faith!
                1. +7
                  20 June 2021 08: 06
                  In the west, they are really so lop-eared that any noodles suit them .. laughing And we also need to tell them that we from the space station will throw bombs and grenades on their heads with our hands, flying over Britain)))
              2. -11
                19 June 2021 23: 40
                Let's start with the fact that for some time now Yandex completely fell under the ILV. And it fulfills absolutely all of its requirements. Is it necessary to give a decoding of the letter "R" in the abbreviation "RKN"?
                As for the mention of the Netherlands, the question - why the Dutch tax rate is lower than the Russian one - is not at all for Yandex.
                And before making a conclusion about the state ownership of the company at the place of registration, you should first ask where this company pays taxes. Ask, by the way, on occasion.
            2. +3
              21 June 2021 09: 15
              Yandex is an aggregator. The news section has settings. It is possible to establish from which news resources he could take news, so that any crap like lenta.ru would not come into his eyes.
            3. 0
              21 June 2021 17: 58
              oddly enough, there is absolutely similar information.

              What's so strange about that. This is how it works.
              Someone started a fake.
              All the newsmen were reprinted, sometimes even without links.
              The search engines got information from the news and shoved it into the search.
              Whether Russian is a newsman or not, it makes no difference.
          2. -10
            19 June 2021 20: 43
            Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
            Colleague, do you believe such a publication as Lenta.ru?

            Cosm22 has already answered. Type in Yandex and choose the edition you want.
            Is Izvestia.ru suitable for example?
            https://iz.ru/1174848/elena-balaian-ivan-petrov/vyveli-s-orbity-chto-stoit-za-novym-epizodom-khishchenii-v-roskosmose
            1. -1
              21 June 2021 16: 49
              You are confusing something. Izvestia writes exclusively about theft.
        2. -1
          19 June 2021 21: 30
          Quote: Hyperion
          Someone believes, someone doubts. In the meantime, Roscosmos operates:

          Have you read it yourself? "more than eight million rubles were stolen")))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
          1. -19
            19 June 2021 21: 42
            Quote: poquello
            Have you read it yourself? "more than eight million rubles were stolen")))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

            Well? Like - a trifle, let them steal? And how much should you steal so that you would not be ashamed to write about it? How about the 19th 500 million?
            Hehe! only 8 million ... Some kind of pitiful 470 salaries of the middle class. Just think! Take it guys. Russia is a rich country - enough for everyone! Well stolen and stolen. Che mumble something? If they had not stolen their thieves, then NATO soldiers would have done it.
            1. +1
              19 June 2021 22: 36
              Quote: Hyperion
              Quote: poquello
              Have you read it yourself? "more than eight million rubles were stolen")))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

              Well? Like - a trifle, let them steal? And how much should you steal so that you would not be ashamed to write about it?

              yes a trifle, let them catch.
              well, somehow, to understand the state scale of money -
              A claim for a water blockade of Crimea against its organizers is planned to be filed with a Russian court in the first half of 2021.
              "Already in the approximation - 1 trillion 476 billion rubles caused damage to the economy, social infrastructure and citizens of Crimea by the actions of the Ukrainian side"
              1. -4
                19 June 2021 22: 47
                Quote: poquello
                "Already in the approximation - 1 trillion 476 billion rubles caused damage to the economy, social infrastructure and citizens of Crimea by the actions of the Ukrainian side"

                This is a claim from Ukraine, do I understand correctly? Well, good luck to the plaintiffs! Ukraine also wants to receive billions from Russia as reparations, but who will give them?
                And then real money was stolen. Yes, only 8 million, but this is not the first time and far from 8 million have already been stolen.
                1. -2
                  19 June 2021 23: 30
                  Quote: Hyperion
                  And then real money was stolen. Yes, only 8 million, but this is not the first time and far from 8 million have already been stolen.

                  Well, what are you right, here at Colonel Zakharchenko's house 8 lards were seized,
                  The colonel pressed for pity and asked to leave him at home, promising 70 million rubles in bail.
                  Read on WWW.KP.RU: https://www.kp.ru/daily/26580.7/3595430/
                  1. -5
                    19 June 2021 23: 34
                    Quote: poquello
                    8 lards were confiscated from Colonel Zakharchenko's house

                    Okay. Let's decide once and for all: how much can you steal so that the mention of it is considered bad manners?
                    It seems that there is such a thing that if you steal less than 1000 rubles in a store. then there will be no crime. What is the threshold for effective managers? 10 wooden strips are acceptable? Or so - for the children for ice cream?
                    1. +4
                      19 June 2021 23: 41
                      Quote: Hyperion
                      how much can you steal so that mentioning it is considered bad manners?

                      stealing is generally bad, but they catch 5-10 lamas almost every week
                    2. 0
                      20 June 2021 01: 53
                      Quote: Author
                      The Russian military-industrial complex has a number of bottlenecks, including optical systems ...

                      here it is not clear, what is the reason why our optics, consumer goods, at least lag behind the same Zeiss.


                      Quote: poquello
                      A claim for a water blockade of Crimea against its organizers is planned to be filed with a Russian court in the first half of 2021 ...

                      +
                      Well, finally, a sane action on the robbery of the Kiev junta.
                      once in 2014 they were not forced to peace, so at least so.



                      Quote: Hyperion
                      Okay. Let's decide once and for all: what amount can be stolen so that the mention of it is considered bad manners?

                      +
                      I suggest the cost of 4 rolls of wallpaper:
                      "the police killed a resident of Yekaterinburg, Vladimir Taushankov, whom the National Guard suspected in a robbery attack on a store for a few rolls of wallpaper. "©
                      1. 0
                        20 June 2021 14: 35
                        Quote: Gunter
                        I suggest the cost of 4 rolls of wallpaper:
                        "The police killed a resident of Yekaterinburg, Vladimir Taushankov, whom the National Guard officers suspected of robbing a store for the sake of several rolls of wallpaper."

                        so fucking waving an airsoft dummy machine gun. wink in civilized countries, children are killed for this without question, and even wallpaper is not necessary to steal.
                        PS
                        did you intentionally carry out this forgery of information or out of ignorance? bully
                    3. -1
                      21 June 2021 12: 00
                      Do you think they don't steal in the West? They steal everywhere, even in Papua New Guinea! It's unpleasant, but it's not worth creating a stir, either, you are our whistleblower!
                      1. -2
                        21 June 2021 12: 09
                        Okay, persuaded. Let them steal, since such is the case. If there are so many defenders of theft in the country, how not to steal? What is the parish, so is the pop.
                      2. 0
                        22 June 2021 00: 31
                        You distort and distort. Youthful maximalism rushing? Especially for you, I am explaining the meaning of my post: stealing is bad, but being in the midst of a burst of money, no one can resist! They steal everywhere! Put you on the fin streams, just the same you will tyrit!
                      3. 0
                        22 June 2021 08: 46
                        Quote: Timon2155
                        They steal everywhere! Put you on the fin streams, just the same you will tyrit!

                        This is youthful maximalism. One size fits all. At the same time, judge for yourself.
                      4. 0
                        22 June 2021 10: 26
                        Your comment is wet dreams of a perfect world. My realities. Who is driving? You!
                      5. 0
                        22 June 2021 12: 04
                        When you are robbed, do not rush to report to the police. It's a matter of everyday life. The world is not ideal.
                      6. 0
                        22 June 2021 12: 12
                        Wake up already: you, and me, and the western man in the street have been robbed for a long time. Or do you think billionaires come out of thin air? Power of corporations and their owners. And you are all about ideals and justice, naive.
                      7. 0
                        22 June 2021 12: 17
                        Quote: Timon2155
                        Wake up already: you, and me, and the western man in the street have been robbed for a long time.

                        So what? Can't even write about it now? Just express your humble opinion? And how they steal something. And where do they steal? Every year in one of the most serious areas of the industry, against the background of Musk's increasing successes. Against the backdrop of falling incomes, rising inflation and a covid epic. They steal everywhere, but not on the same scale and not with such regular frequency.
                      8. 0
                        22 June 2021 12: 23
                        It’s not a question of expressing an opinion, but how you do it. Yes, and even with arrivals, as if I was justifying theft and so on. They just steal from us, but there is light and peace! Study the topic of theft in the same USA, wonder how people make money, for example, in arms. This is also a kind of theft.
                      9. 0
                        22 June 2021 12: 57
                        Quote: Timon2155
                        as if I was justifying stealing

                        And ... so you condemn, then?
                        Quote: Timon2155
                        Do you think they don't steal in the West? They steal everywhere, even in Papua New Guinea! It’s unpleasant, but it’s not worth creating a stir either.

                        I misunderstood you, it turns out. But I did not create any excitement. I just noticed that against the background of sanctions in Roskosmos, they steal and steal without being distracted by lunch. That despite the lag in the production of space devices, we are not lagging behind in theft.
                      10. 0
                        22 June 2021 13: 08
                        Listen, do you condemn deaths, for example, in an accident? As people died, they die without being distracted by lunch. Why don't you shout at all corners about it? Here is the same: I understand that the world is not ideal, there are many vices in it, and so on. I understand and take it calmly, without yelling "everything is lost", "everything is plundered", "the country is rolling down" and so on. Screams do not help the cause. In your opinion, the absence of noise / din = complicity.
                      11. 0
                        22 June 2021 13: 21
                        Quote: Timon2155
                        Listen, do you condemn deaths, for example, in an accident? As people died, they die without being distracted by lunch.

                        You are engaged in substitution of concepts. It is impossible to control the accident at 100% at the moment. Force majeure as it is. Or are you a supporter of the new idea that bribes can be forgiven under "force majeure circumstances"?
                        Quote: Timon2155
                        without yelling "everything is gone," "everything was plundered," "the country is rolling down," and so on.

                        Did I have similar screams in my comment? Not? What is the conversation about then?
                        Quote: Timon2155
                        In your opinion, the absence of noise / din = complicity.

                        So on your part, not the absence of noise, but just the same noise on the topic "everyone steals, this is reality. They steal and steal, why bite".
                      12. 0
                        22 June 2021 13: 32
                        Hmm, good answer! Controlling theft in the same way is 100% unrealistic - there are no intelligible mechanisms for this, either in our country or abroad: all sorts of lobbies, bribes, leftist tenders, etc., are almost unprovable. And take banks, there is a continuous legalized robbery of each and every one. Why don't you talk about it? Or is it different? My noise is the answer to you, no more. But you can put a dividing fence on the roads - there will be no oncoming accidents - drown for it.
                      13. 0
                        22 June 2021 13: 39
                        Quote: Timon2155
                        there are no intelligible mechanisms for this, neither here nor abroad: all sorts of lobbies, bribes, left-wing tenders, etc., are almost unprovable.

                        This does not mean that you cannot write about it. If there is no public outcry, then everything will remain so.
                        Quote: Timon2155
                        Why don't you talk about it?

                        Talking about banks on the topic of space? Are you familiar with the concept of offtopic? Be sure, since it comes to banks, many here on VO send them rays of good.
                        There will be an article about an accident - we will drown behind the fences.
                      14. 0
                        22 June 2021 13: 52
                        I believe that the transition to the topic of unproven (so far) bribes and so on is offtopic, hype, and so on. Let the investigation deal with this on the basis of facts and episodes, but this is your empty stuff. How do you like this interpretation?
                      15. 0
                        22 June 2021 13: 55
                        Quote: Timon2155
                        Let the investigation deal with this on the basis of facts and episodes, but this is your empty stuff. How do you like this interpretation?

                        The interpretation is so-so. Because:
                        The fact of abuse was revealed by the anti-corruption investigation of the Investigative Committee
                      16. 0
                        22 June 2021 14: 05
                        And who investigated the Investigative Committee itself? And tomorrow it will be necessary to investigate the very anti-corruption structure. This is infinity. Theft in its pure form, smeared over structures, by time, by projects, etc. Can you control 100%? Or is it better to deal with an accident?)))
                      17. 0
                        22 June 2021 14: 42
                        You have seven Fridays a week. Then you write:
                        Quote: Timon2155
                        Let the investigation deal with this on the basis of facts and episodes.

                        Then the investigation is no good.
                        Quote: Timon2155
                        Or is it better to deal with an accident?)))

                        Why deal with an accident according to your logic? We'll all be there, sooner or later. Why, in general, does a person improve their standard of living and build social relationships? We do not control the entire society as a whole and do not control our personal life by 100%.
                        "Why, Mr. Anderson, why? In the name of what? What are you doing? Why, why are you getting up? Why do you keep fighting?"(from)
                      18. 0
                        22 June 2021 14: 56
                        AND? Where is the construct? Deadlock in the dough cut? Will you offer options or cling to my words? I tell you from the first comment, you will not be able to jail the embezzlers: there are completely respected people. Look, in a parallel topic about corvettes, egregious cases of sawing attendants by the Barrier and, in fact, undermining the combat capability of the Navy. Have someone planted? That's just it. You can shout further - the result is zero.
                      19. 0
                        22 June 2021 15: 03
                        Quote: Timon2155
                        Where is the construct?

                        The construct has long been known. Tightening punishments for corruption up to ... But the situation is not ripe yet. If it ever ripens at all.
                        Quote: Timon2155
                        Have someone planted? That's just it. You can shout further - the result is zero.

                        Well, at least let off some steam in the internet. One outlet for the people remained. But no - some Timur will appear and let salt and pepper sprinkle on the wound.
        3. 0
          20 June 2021 05: 43
          new facts of corruption and theft disclosed by the internal audit department of Roscosmos and transferred to the UK - evidence of the interest of the state corporation in "cleaning" the ranks.

          It was a long time ago.
          The swindlers have been identified.
          But they managed to escape to the place where our crooks are greeted with joy and not only do not punish themselves, but also interfere with us.
      2. +5
        19 June 2021 20: 12
        Where did they get it. Then why were they indignant about the TU 214 DON camera? Rogozin posted pictures from Canopus.
        1. 0
          19 June 2021 22: 14
          About Tu-214 DON, as it is not even serious to poke their nose. In general, for a long time and more than once they blamed us about the lag in various areas of electronics, but then they themselves admitted that the Russians get results of the same quality on the "outdated" element base. So while getting more bonuses in the form of increased noise immunity.
          1. +1
            20 June 2021 16: 06
            Quote: volodimer
            that the Russians are getting results of the same quality on the "outdated" element base.

            As for our films of the 60-70-80-90s, they are now quoted higher than similar American photographic materials, and are in great demand, even among Israelis who like to show off their American achievements. For several years there was a huge scandal when a former officer from the Volokolamskoe highway sold such materials as an intermediary to one dubious company, for which he sat down for a long time. So our "outdated base" in the form of photographic films is now in demand more than ever, and primarily for the purpose of studying the processes taking place over time in certain regions.
    2. +3
      19 June 2021 20: 29
      What will be the next you-sir from "partners"? Logically, it is better to place such equipment on high-altitude planes, the quality of the photo is better, and the coverage is exactly the desired area! We need the station to take up space, not to repair it for the Yankees sartirs! !!
      1. 0
        19 June 2021 22: 17
        If we continued the topic M-55 "Geophysics", it would be very tasty.
    3. +8
      19 June 2021 23: 29
      They wrote some kind of crap. Concern Barl produces excellent small telescopes for satellites. With good performance.



      1. -1
        20 June 2021 12: 48
        They are shocked. Like many specialists, DOS designers are here. belay
        Our polar ROSS refutes and turns it upside down with its absurdity and meaninglessness.
        The polar ROSS project has many disadvantages compared to the comfortable and well-developed DOS and ISS orbits. This is all known.
        Everyone is trying to understand, the world is at a loss, - What is the advantage of ROSS, which justifies all the shortcomings of the polar station, where you can stay for no longer than 2 weeks?
        This is just another version.
        My version is that the famous Deputy Prime Minister Borisov is saving the Plesetsk cosmodrome, which is now little used. Somehow it is necessary to justify the construction of the start for the Angara in Plesetsk. ROSS will have to fly from it. Then the Ministry of Defense will take all the Roscosmos money for a manned program.
        1. +3
          20 June 2021 20: 21
          Quote: Mityai65
          The polar ROSS project has many disadvantages compared to the comfortable and well-developed DOS and ISS orbits. This is all known.


          Being in a sun-synchronous orbit, cosmonauts will be able to see the entire territory of Russia and the circumpolar regions in full every day during daylight hours. The station will be equipped with special multispectral broadband scanners of the new generation, i.e. the station will simultaneously see a large area.

          Quote: Mityai65
          Everyone is trying to understand, the world is at a loss, - What is the advantage of ROSS, which justifies all the shortcomings of the polar station, where you can stay for no longer than 2 weeks?


          Modern automation systems do not require the constant presence of a crew at the station, as was the case in the 70s and 80s of the last century. As for the ISS, the design of this station dates back to the end of the 80s, which is why a permanent crew is desirable on it. The same goes for the Chinese station.

          At the same time, equipment performing astrophysical research will be installed on the new Russian orbital service station, as was previously implemented at the Mir station - where the Glazar astrophysical telescope was installed in the Kvant retrofit module. Only this new equipment will have modern optical and radio channels to Earth.
    4. -8
      20 June 2021 01: 04
      Quote: Bearded
      Just don't tell Rogozin about it. laughing

      What does Rogozin have to do with it - we buy everything from the Chinese, both we and the Yankees
  2. +3
    19 June 2021 20: 01
    how it was done on the Soviet "Salutes".

    The best thing is the forgotten old ...
  3. 0
    19 June 2021 20: 07
    in this regard, Russia needs a much more massive space platform capable of accommodating larger optical systems, such as an orbital station:

    - The carriage will move, the platform ...
    Hike, their platform will also move ... No, I understand, in optics we are not leaders, but not so much!
  4. 0
    19 June 2021 20: 11
    The Russian military-industrial complex has a number of bottlenecks, including optical systems
    ... The question has been raised / posed for a LONG time!
    It is unlikely that they will talk about it publicly, but I would like so much that there would be fewer bottlenecks and even fewer.
    Gigantomania, now, you will not surprise anyone, in our time of miniaturization of many necessary things!
    1. KCA
      +7
      19 June 2021 22: 01
      Shvabe is quite successful in expanding the bottlenecks of optical systems
      1. -2
        20 June 2021 08: 53
        Whole industries, serious scientific associations and, of course, those who are responsible for science and education should be engaged in this IMPORTANT business.
        1. +1
          20 June 2021 18: 17
          SHVABE has dozens of enterprises and institutes with design bureaus dealing with optical systems and instrumentation.
          1. 0
            20 June 2021 18: 33
            No, probably something has changed in the world or in people's brains .... you begin to remind that scientific and technological progress in ANY DIRECTION, in ANY INDUSTRY, in the STATE IN GENERAL, begins with SCHOOL and further in ascending order !!! Everything is interconnected and only the STATE itself can organize and provide all this !!!
            They cite some Schwabe as an example and think they explained everything to Tim, proved ???
            Even the best Shvabe will not lead ahead and will not cover all the needs of the military-industrial complex, and the national economy as a whole ...
  5. +7
    19 June 2021 20: 14
    Nonsense! Orbital station for optical systems? How dumb does it take to try to sell something like that?
    Even if our equipment is larger, which I doubt, no one bothers to make the satellite a little larger.
    1. 0
      19 June 2021 20: 31
      Maybe they watched our film "The First" not so long ago ?! And they decided that this is our modern cosmonautics
  6. +14
    19 June 2021 20: 18
    There are laws of physics (section - optics), which can not be canceled by any miniaturization. For example - dimensions of the entrance lens, focal length.
    1. +3
      19 June 2021 22: 26
      This topic is not covered in the article. What are the advantages of miniaturization in the field of optics? Rather, we are talking about the characteristics of photosensitive matrices
    2. +1
      20 June 2021 04: 23
      This info is that in the title, for internal use in America. because somehow it is necessary to justify the lack of orbital stations. The USSR has, the Russian Federation is (on stream), China has. But they do not. That's the whole background. This is their main method - if they want to hide a flaw, they blame anyone for it, but not themselves.
  7. +9
    19 June 2021 20: 18
    Hard to believe, a strange version. We have a fairly strong optical school, inferior to the western one, but the tasks of exploration and study of outer space have been fulfilled for 60 years.
    I believe more that we need the station because of the technological processes associated with microgravity, perhaps also for working out some kind of experiments on the future (I hope) Nucleon.
    1. +11
      19 June 2021 20: 27
      In optics, we are in no way inferior, but we have something better, problems may arise in the equipment for processing information, but here there have always been solutions that, with their eccentricity, put the West at a standstill.
      1. +4
        19 June 2021 23: 41
        Quote: Andrea
        their eccentricity stumped the West.


        Russian Atlas VR system

    2. -5
      19 June 2021 20: 29
      Poland is also west and what are we to them in optics, astronautics, and so on. conceding !?
    3. +9
      19 June 2021 20: 43
      There is something wrong with the f35 optical target detection system. At the moment 35 already two. Something is wrong with the Western school.
      1. 0
        19 June 2021 22: 56
        not Windows on f35 optical target detection system

        And what about AN / AAQ-37 and AAQ-40?
    4. +3
      19 June 2021 20: 48
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      Hard to believe, a strange version.

      For stupid Americans, it is quite normal. After all, if you tell them the truth that American astronaut drilled a hole in the Russian space modulethen no American would believe it.
      No one else wants to wait for what the next time the Americans will come up with. The risk is unjustified. It is better to cooperate with the Chinese in this area. Those at least honestly steal technology for their own benefit, and do not try to blatantly shit.
      1. +2
        19 June 2021 21: 06
        Quote: Zorro21
        Quote: Knell Wardenheart
        Hard to believe, a strange version.

        For stupid Americans, it is quite normal. After all, if you tell them the truth that American astronaut drilled a hole in the Russian space modulethen no American would believe it.

        Comrade, with all due respect, if this is true for a patriotic Runet, then there is no need to be modest. We are quite competitive. We believe in it. And no feeling of awkwardness.
      2. -1
        19 June 2021 23: 40
        ... American astronaut drilled a hole in the Russian space module

        And then she, without a spacesuit, imperceptibly went out through the window into the open space, removed the layers of thermal protection, covered up the drilled hole and repaired the thermal protection so that you could not distinguish it from the factory one, and again imperceptibly returned to the station through the window.
        Not a woman, but a liquid metal terminator.
  8. +1
    19 June 2021 20: 27
    And where are the "Polish", "German", "French" and "English" spaceports!?!?! what
    1. KCA
      +2
      19 June 2021 22: 04
      French - Kuru
      1. -6
        20 June 2021 01: 01
        Kuru is an international space center, not a French one
  9. -17
    19 June 2021 20: 53
    In the west, people are right. Optics and electronics in Russia and in fact are from the Dnieper, there is no point in denying.
    1. +4
      19 June 2021 21: 21
      Quote: Basarev
      In the west, people are right. Optics and electronics in Russia and in fact are from the Dnieper, there is no point in denying.

      in a particular case, it doesn't matter to me what kind of optics (and the Schwab is generally in the world top), the Shephard edition is stupid because the ISS is already outdated, and our new station will have unlimited modules, and in the plans is a reference one in near space
  10. +12
    19 June 2021 23: 26
    The article in the west was written by journalists, only these technically illiterate people could compose such nonsense. Firstly, in space systems of species reconnaissance, the bulk is accounted for not by electronics, but by optics and orientation systems. Secondly, in order to ensure at least minimal efficiency in updating intelligence, the number of observation devices in orbit must be more than one, even much more. What cannot be achieved at the current stage of technology development using manned vehicles. Thirdly, we had systems of species reconnaissance on satellites with the transmission of digital images over a radio channel back in the 70s. Fourth, it is rather difficult to imagine a problem for which the use of a manned spacecraft would give a gain in mass and cost, even if all the electronics were assembled on lamps. Estimate the weight of the life support system, the descent vehicle, air, water and food supplies, the cost of launching shift workers every six months. No, it is possible and necessary to conduct defense research and reconnaissance, place special equipment, etc. on your own orbital station. but not because it is necessary, but because if there is a station, such an opportunity will exist, and it is foolish not to use it.
    1. +4
      20 June 2021 16: 12
      Quote: Max PV
      The article was written in the West by journalists, only these technically illiterate people could compose such nonsense.

      I completely agree with your conclusions - who are in the subject, laughed at these fabrications for a long time, as I think
  11. +2
    20 June 2021 04: 59
    China with its industry, too, apparently for the same reason, began to build its own station. laughing
  12. 0
    20 June 2021 05: 52
    This is purely propaganda.
    To seriously consider this nonsense from a technical point of view is to disrespect yourself.
    And for propaganda, they did not invent such things.
    Nothing changes in the moonlit world.
  13. +1
    20 June 2021 06: 33
    I didn't understand if this is news or an opinion. And who needs to convey this task? If there are prerequisites in our country for the creation of such a technique, then it will be created. If not, then let the intelligence officers themselves be engaged in this task. But they are blind kittens without diplomatic services. After all, diplomacy was set up not only to defend the political interests of the country, but also in order to find the contacts she needs.
  14. 0
    20 June 2021 06: 46
    Quote: slipped
    They wrote some kind of crap. Concern Barl produces excellent small telescopes for satellites. With good performance.




    Tell us, on SPEKTR-RG, what optics / mirrors are there?
    1. -1
      20 June 2021 18: 20
      There is special optics on an X-ray telescope - and it has nothing to do with reconnaissance.
    2. +2
      20 June 2021 19: 52
      Quote: Engineer Schukin
      Tell us, on SPEKTR-RG, what optics / mirrors are there?


      The Russian telescope ART-XC is equipped with oblique X-ray mirrors manufactured by the Marshall Center (USA). At the end of the XNUMXs, they made a special order as the most experienced manufacturers in the world at that time in creating such mirrors. At the same time, the same mirrors were being created in Sarov. Already at the end of the next decade, it was decided to put the Marshalls on the aircraft, and the Sarovs on its ground counterpart. This does not mean that the Sarov tanks were worse than the American ones, they were just made later, when the American ones had already passed the tests and were installed on the telescope, it took ours more time to master such production, and the launch of the station was in a certain time window. Those. if American mirrors were subject to Western sanctions, then ours would simply have installed their own domestic mirrors, only the station would have been delayed in launch for another year.

      As a result, we have a unique astrophysical instrument working perfectly for almost three years at a distance of one and a half million kilometers from the Earth, which has already begun the fourth survey of the entire sky out of eight planned. Every day the spacecraft, which has the Russian platform "Navigator", transfers 500MB of data to the MCC with its DBK. Based on the scan results, the best and most detailed map of the starry sky in the world will be built, the results will also be used for navigation in deep space of our spacecraft. Then the telescope will switch to a point search for individual orders of astronomers around the world.
  15. 0
    20 June 2021 07: 55
    So we will write: "The reason for the creation of the ISS was the deep problems in the optical production of the shareholder countries."
  16. 0
    20 June 2021 08: 00
    It was not for nothing that the Almaz station was shown relatively recently for the "military acceptance". And, I do not quite understand, there is either optics or not for certain distances .... what kind of miniatureization can there be? The focal length is not going anywhere.
  17. +3
    20 June 2021 09: 10
    When the toilet is busy all the time in a communal apartment, a pack of salt suddenly appears in the soup cooked in the shared kitchen, and an unbalanced neighbor drilled a hole in the bathroom to spy on who was washing there, then willy-nilly think of a separate apartment, even if you have to shell out a lot of money or to occupy them.
  18. +1
    20 June 2021 09: 14
    Western press on the reasons for the creation of a new orbital station

    There is only one reason, the amers and Co. got us ... either their toilet breaks down and the whole station smells, then a woman will drill a hole in the building from bitchiness during menstruation ..
    Itself as it is calmer! bully
  19. +2
    20 June 2021 10: 57
    Ehsperds forgot about the keyhole, the size of a bus 20x3m, 13 tons.
  20. +3
    20 June 2021 15: 56
    For these reasons, the Russian Federation is actively working on a program to create its own orbital station. It is expected that the cosmonauts' stay on it will be of a periodic nature, as was done on the Soviet "Salutes".

    Complete nonsense, because the GRU GSh abandoned this concept back in the late seventies, and the last Almazy were stored in Reutov for a long time, until they were completely abandoned due to the futility and high cost of storage.
    What is the point of stepping on a rake twice, the author of the article apparently could not come up with ...