New US reconnaissance aircraft Bombardier Challenger 650 Artemis did not come as a "surprise" for Russian air defense

The Baltops-2021 military exercises held in the Baltic region were used by the United States, including for testing its new reconnaissance aircraft. According to the Ministry of Defense, the appearance of an American aircraft in the Kaliningrad region did not come as a surprise to the Russian air defense system.

According to Russian surveillance equipment, the United States has deployed a new Bombardier Challenger 650 Artemis reconnaissance aircraft, a reconnaissance and target designation aircraft, to the exercise area. It was developed on the basis of the Bombardier Challenger 650 business jet, which entered service only in 2015. The exact characteristics of the reconnaissance aircraft are classified, but it is argued that it is significantly superior to similar aircraft already in service. The aircraft is equipped with a powerful radar and electronic reconnaissance equipment.

Earlier, two American Beechcraft RC-12X Guardrail reconnaissance aircraft stationed in the Baltic States were constantly on duty in the Baltic region. They flew regularly near Russian borders. The new Bombardier Challenger 650 Artemis was deployed to Europe in May of this year specifically for testing during exercises in order to work out interaction in conditions close to combat.

The appearance of this aircraft did not come as a surprise for the Russian air defense system, they write "News" with reference to the military. He was found, identified and taken on constant escort of forces and equipment located in the Kaliningrad region. Several flights of the American aircraft along the borders of the Kaliningrad region and Belarus took place under the full control of the air defense.

It is noted that this aircraft has already appeared within the Russian borders. In 2020, he was stationed in Romania, from where he flew to Georgia and worked near Belarus and the Russian enclave.

Comments

[xorek]

Disguised as private? Oh well

[figwam]

two American reconnaissance aircraft Beechcraft RC-12X Guardrail were on duty

They are now at Kaliningrad.

New Bombardier Challenger 650 Artemis has been deployed to Europe

This one from Romania flew to South Ossetia, flies back.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: xorek

Disguised as private? Oh well

Are you kidding? The use by the army of an already created civilian platform for its own purposes is not news for a long time.

[xorek]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Are you kidding? The use by the army of the already created civilian platform for SAO purposes is not news for a long time.

So you got caught Aaron !!! Do you remember the shot down South Korean ..? After all, the scout was with the passengers .. What scum all the same

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: xorek

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Are you kidding? The use by the army of the already created civilian platform for SAO purposes is not news for a long time.

So you got caught Aaron !!! Do you remember the shot down South Korean ..? After all, the scout was with the passengers .. What scum all the same

Do you even understand what you are writing?

[Bez 310]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Do you even understand what you are writing?

Thank you for the correct question!

[Guardian of the walls]

Aaron, well, if a person chose Nick "ferret". Coincidence? I don't think ...

[xorek]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Do you even understand what you are writing?

I understand you all very well in Israel Aron ..!
Remember how you framed our Il under attack in Syria .. Very familiar provocations !!!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: xorek

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Do you even understand what you are writing?

I understand you all very well in Israel Aron ..!
Remember how you framed our Il under attack in Syria .. Very familiar provocations !!!

Thanks for shooting down Ila, the hideous work of the dispatcher service of Khmeimim and the air defense of Syria. As Russian folk wisdom says, "There is nothing to blame on the mirror when the face is crooked."

[Zaurbek]

No ... it's just that a civil aircraft is cheaper and more reliable and more comfortable than a fighter. When will the Russian Federation come to that. In the meantime, we cannot use SSZH-100 (until it was localized) ...

[rotmistr60]

The appearance of this aircraft did not come as a surprise to the Russian air defense system.

What can you do, you can't forbid them to fly, but you have to control them. In connection with the active flights of NATO aircraft, our air defense systems are constantly on alert and for real targets, which means they are ready for any "surprises".

[axxmanm]

A logical consequence of the developed civil aircraft industry.
And an excellent argument on the basis of which one can once again spit in the face of the guardian scum who asserted that there is nothing wrong with the collapse of the civil aircraft industry in Russia.

[Orange bigg]

They produce Tu-214, Il-96-300, Il-76MD -90A, but it is another matter that they have not yet brought to mass production of MS-21-310 (with PD-14), which would be really interesting for airlines.

... The project of the MC-21-400 aircraft, capable of carrying up to 260 passengers, is expected to be launched into development in 2024–2025. This was announced on Wednesday, June 16, by the general director of the Irkut corporation Ravil Khakimov.

The basic model of the aircraft - MC-21-300 is currently at the certification stage. The aircraft received an index of -310, now the aircraft is undergoing factory development tests.

As Khakimov explained, design documentation has already been developed for the MS-21-200 and MS-21-400 aircraft.

“As soon as the MC-21-300 version starts flying in airlines, depending on demand, we will most likely take on the MC-21-400 project, that is, it is a medium-haul aircraft that will be able to carry up to 260 passengers. And depending on demand, we will see how to launch the MS-21-200. This is 2024–2025. As soon as we certify and start producing this aircraft, most likely we will launch the MS-21-400, ”said Khakimov.

On June 10, it became known that Irkut plans to deliver 2035 domestic aircraft MS-1099, Superjet and Il-21-114 by 300. To organize the supply and leasing of such a fleet, the aircraft manufacturer will need funding in the amount of 4,15 trillion rubles.

https://iz.ru/1179425/2021-06-16/razrabotka-proekta-samoleta-ms-21-400-mozhet-nachatsia-cherez-piat-let

Again, we are producing the Superjet 100.

... On June 4, in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, another serial passenger aircraft Superjet 100 made its maiden flight. The aircraft has serial number 95213 and registration number 89172. This is the 209th aircraft of this type to take off and the 5th this year.

http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/141731/

[axxmanm]

Quote: OrangeBigg

They produce Tu-214, Il-96-300, Il-76MD -90A, but it is another matter that they have not yet brought to mass production of MS-21-310 (with PD-14), which would be really interesting for airlines.

Do not be like the guardian Russian Russophobes.
Tu-214, Il-96-300 are not purchased by commercial air carriers.
The civil aircraft industry in Russia has been deliberately and intentionally ruined.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: axxmanm

The civil aircraft industry in Russia has been deliberately and intentionally ruined.

As the civil aircraft industry, so does the civilian navy.

[Zaurbek]

And even so, they are cheaper and better than special aircraft based on military aircraft as a base for special aircraft .... and sometimes they are non-alternative. For example, there is 214 piece Tu1RTs .... and there is no analogue for flights somewhere in the US region. And the United States has an Il96 type aircraft ...

[apricot]

I flew on a business trip on a superjet, Yakut airlines, I no longer want to. An old watermelon is better in everything, I'm talking about comfort, noise, quality of materials, etc. In general, patriotism has diminished a little.

[axxmanm]

Quote: apricot

I flew on a superjet, I don't want Yakut ones anymore. I'll talk about comfort, noise, quality of materials, etc. In general, patriotism has diminished a little.

What kind of patriotism has diminished?
Armenian?
Poghosyan is the name of the creature who promoted this flawed project.

[A. Privalov]

At first, the staff members write at all angles that they are going to purchase aircraft for such and such purposes. Then, options are discussed all over the world, then financing is knocked out and approved. Then, contracts for the supply, equipment and maintenance are concluded ...
What surprises are we talking about? For whom?

[voyaka uh]

The Israeli Air Force has a similar small (compared to all AWACS)
scout plane.
AFARA radars are visible on the sides.

[Jacket in stock]

He was found, identified and taken on constant escort of forces and equipment located in the Kaliningrad region. Several flights of the American aircraft along the borders of the Kaliningrad region and Belarus took place under the full control of the air defense.

and the work of our air defense systems, in turn, took place under the full control of this very reconnaissance officer, to whom our military kindly provided the opportunity to fix all the parameters of their radio equipment and other parameters of the operation of our air defense.

[Jacket in stock]

The use of modern electronics makes it possible to place powerful radars on compact machines, like this twenty-meter 7-ton airplane.
Unfortunately, this electronics is not available to our industry, so at best we have Tu214 (50 tons), and even that is produced by the piece every few years. And the troops have to use huge voracious 200 tons A50 or 30 tons, but such ancient Il20.

[voyaka uh]

It's right. There is no longer the need to pile up converted Boeings on the backs
huge heavy balls and radar dishes.

[Zaurbek]

Three antennas are placed in a triangle in a plate ... and it does not rotate ... or two and it rotates. I don’t know which is better. And for small planes, fixed antennas are definitely better.

[Zaurbek]

I think electronics are already available ... there are no carriers ... at the exit from small only IL114 ... and SSZH (its local version) .. and this is 5 years ...

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Zaurbek

I think electronics are already available

Yes?
And why, then, does the A-100 not bother?
And the carriers, that is, the planes of the "local version", are they absent because there is nothing to make them out of? And here the plug is even not only in electronics, but also in those nodes that used to be somehow able to do, but now they suddenly forgot how to do it.

[Zaurbek]

In terms of nodes, it is not enough to make them, they also need to be certified and they must be serial ... and the plane itself. I don’t know from the radar, but the PFAR is on the stream, the AFAR in the air defense is only on fighters ... (which means the industry has mastered)

[Prisoner]

Rather, our air defense will become a surprise and oh-oh-very unpleasant for you.

[Petro_tut]

Rather, our air defense will become a surprise for you and oh-oh-very unpleasant

For "you" Who is this for?
For civilian passengers of Aeroflot?
Here on the site most of the Russian Federation

[Prisoner]

You have problems with logic, apparently. The title of the article "The new US reconnaissance aircraft Bombardier Challenger 650 Artemis did not come as a" surprise "for the Russian air defense" and, accordingly, the answer was US intelligence. And who is the majority on the site, after the flags have been removed, it is a dark matter. Where are you from?

[Petro_tut]

Do not confuse with the Ministry of Defense
And there are no problems with logic, if you wrote not for you, but for NATO members, then you could not be taken for example for a Ukrainian, and according to the commentary it is quite possible

[Zaurbek]

Without "eyes" in the air, air defense will lose the battle ....

[Soldatov V.]

In principle, this is an analogue of the Yak-40. Who prevents us from putting economical engines on it, covering it with the appropriate equipment and making Europe nervous with our flights? There are about 300 (!!!) of them in storage.

[vadim dok]

And what "economical" engines are available for the YAK 40 remotorization?

[Soldatov V.]

Unfortunately, I don’t know Russian. I know there was work on the Yak-40 with American engines. Instead of three, they put two. The speed increased to 750 km and the range and efficiency increased. We did it, if I'm not mistaken, in Novosibirsk.

[Zaurbek]

And composites were added to the fuselage ....

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: V.

I don’t know Russian. I know there was work on the Yak-40 with American engines. Instead of three, they put two.

You are not mistaken.
At SibNIIA we really did it.
Only here is the fact that American engines are not suitable for the needs of the Ministry of Defense.
Yes, and there is no "appropriate equipment" domestic either.

[Soldatov V.]

Our defense leaders seem to be drawn to carpentry and carpentry, they scamper around the taiga to get away from worries, they play with the female sex. So there are no necessary ships and no planes. What's the problem for a real engineer to rip off the right engine? Why is it impossible to stuff locators with AFAR from a fighter in the YAK-40 hull, in the bow, in the stern (sorry, in the tail), along the sides?

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: V.

What's the problem for a real engineer to rip off the right engine?

No problem for an engineer.
I took the reference book, chose the materials, calculated the shape / dimensions, determined the required accuracy and purity, from other reference books I chose the rest of the components - bolts, nuts, rivets, solders, coatings, bearings, lubricants, wires, contacts, gaskets and so on and so forth.
Then, from another directory, I found equipment on which all this can be assembled, welded, soldered, melted, cut, glued, screwed ...
Then...
Then it turns out that out of the 50 required brands of rubber, only 5 are available (as was the case, for example, when copying Vau2), there are no wires of the required cross-section, and with those that are, the plane turns out to be heavier by almost a ton (as was the case with copying B-29), ... there are no heat-resistant alloys, no one knows how to apply coatings, the solder does not keep the temperature, the bearing plant has closed, and there are no machines of the required precision and tools of the required cleanliness in the country.
And all this must first be done by some other engineers, manufactured at some factories ...
In general, everything that is called the technological level of the country's industry.

[Zaurbek]

We have IL-114 at the Exit ..... and the SSZ is localized ..... here are two aircraft - the carrier ..... the next MC-21 ....

[Al manah]

Today he (or the same one) was rummaging around the Crimea, now he is returning to Romania.