Pashinyan: Recognition of Karabakh independence by Armenia could lead to war

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Recognition of the independence of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR) by Armenia may lead to war. This was stated by Nikol Pashinyan, acting Prime Minister of Armenia.

Pashinyan linked the recognition of Karabakh with the start of a new war. During the pre-election debates, Pashinyan was criticized by opponents for not recognizing the independence of the NKR during the 44-day war and at present. On this accusation, acting. The prime minister said that the recognition of Karabakh in any way would and will lead to war, had Armenia done it now.



According to him, the OSCE Minsk Group stands for the resumption of negotiations for the final settlement of the conflict and determination of the status of Karabakh. At the same time, Pashinyan himself advocates the separation of Karabakh into a separate state, guided by the principle of "secession for the sake of salvation." (Secession (lat. Secessio "leaving" from secedo "leaving") - secession from the state of any part of it).

Meanwhile, Azerbaijan is confident in the imminent opening of the Zangezur (Syunik) corridor, which will connect the territory of the Nakhichevan Autonomous Republic with the territory of Azerbaijan through the territory of Armenia. The proposed corridor will be approximately 40 km long and will run through the Syunik region.

Baku is confident that Russia will not oppose this project and, as Erdogan said, "will support it." At the same time, Azerbaijan refers to the Shusha Declaration, which provides for the functioning of two corridors: Lachin and Zangezur.
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  1. +9
    18 June 2021 11: 01
    It would be better if I thought about the beginning of the last war at one time ...
    1. +11
      18 June 2021 11: 10
      Armenians, I do not interfere in your internal affairs, but you are driving this fosterling of Sorov away! Otherwise the question will arise about your independence!
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      2. +7
        18 June 2021 12: 04
        Quote: Finches
        Armenians, I do not interfere in your internal affairs, but you are driving this fosterling of Sorov away! Otherwise the question will arise about your independence!

        The Armenians of Armenia apparently have a different view of this figure, so your wishes may turn out to be simply in vain.
        In September 1991, the majority of Armenians who had the right to vote voted to secede from the USSR, so this fact should be taken into account, wishing them another "independence".

        They left the USSR, they came to Soros. Maybe this is their vision of independence.
      3. -20
        18 June 2021 12: 05
        Quote: Finches
        You are driving this Sorovski fosterling far away! Otherwise, the question will arise about your independence!

        Purely hypothetically, if instead of the Russian base there was an American base on the territory of Armenia, would the Azerbaijanis dare to go to war against the Armenians or threaten it? Ruled out. Even the Serbs did not dare to enter Kosovo when the Americans appeared there. And the Russian units to whom and where could they guarantee something? There are our bases in Syria, and before that there was an agreement on military support. So what? So there walk the field. There are only perhaps no Mexicans. The rest of the major countries are playing their game there, not giving a damn about the Russian "defense" of Assad.
        1. +9
          18 June 2021 12: 29
          Quote: vegan
          Quote: Finches
          You are driving this Sorovski fosterling far away! Otherwise, the question will arise about your independence!

          Purely hypothetically, if instead of the Russian base there was an American base on the territory of Armenia, would the Azerbaijanis dare to go to war against the Armenians or threaten it? Ruled out. Even the Serbs did not dare to enter Kosovo when the Americans appeared there. And the Russian units to whom and where could they guarantee something? There are our bases in Syria, and before that there was an agreement on military support. So what? So there walk the field. There are only perhaps no Mexicans. The rest of the major countries are playing their game there, not giving a damn about the Russian "defense" of Assad.

          Apparently your memory ends with the day before today.
          Azerbaijan did not attack Armenia in 2020, and Armenia, in turn, did not recognize Nagorno-Karabakh (or Artsakh) as an Armenian state separate from Azerbaijan.
          The fact that the United States and the EU did not particularly react to the military actions of Azerbaijan in N. Karabakh speaks volumes, but you can still love the Americans selflessly in the future, in the hope of Nuland cookies.
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            1. +1
              18 June 2021 12: 58
              where is your logic? What did the armed forces of Armenia do on the territory recognized by the absolute majority of the countries of Azerbaijan? Occupied, or, according to your logic, is this the territory of Armenia? We fought on our territory, we do not need a stranger, unlike our neighbors.
              1. -5
                18 June 2021 13: 06
                Quote: Ramiz Babayev
                We fought on our territory, we do not need a stranger, unlike our neighbors

                Are you Azerbaijani?
                Quote: Ramiz Babayev
                What did the armed forces of Armenia do on the territory recognized by the absolute majority of the countries of Azerbaijan? Occupied, or, according to your logic, is this the territory of Armenia?

                What are you making of yourself? What they were doing? We defended OWN people - Armenians who have lived there for many centuries. This is just understandable and correct. Now, if it had not been defended, it would have been a betrayal of the memory of their ancestors. Another thing is that it was necessary to return the territories of 5 occupied regions of Azerbaijan and the city of Shusha, where Azerbaijanis have lived since ancient times, and to conclude a just peace. But no, they rested their horns and got an inevitable war. Paid for their stupidity
                1. +8
                  18 June 2021 13: 37
                  yes, I am an Azerbaijani, if it is so interesting, a retired military man with big enough stars. And I never allow myself to be rude and rude, education does not allow. The first question is who touched the Armenians there and who was the first to start. I can just remind you - 2 Azerbaijanis were the first victims, killed in Askeran. The Armenians of Karabakh became hostages of the dirty games of the people, they skillfully played on nationalistic feelings and off they went. I bring to your attention that the first refugees were also Azerbaijanis living in the territory of Armenia, about 200 thousand people, their expulsion began in the winter of 1987-88. The second question. Why 5 districts, and not 7, where Armenians have never lived at all? The third question is, why did the Armenians methodically destroy everything and take it to Armenia, if they believed that Karabakh is an Armenian land? And the fact that they have lived there for centuries is a rather controversial issue. A simple example. In 1988, the Armenians for some reason demolished the monument in the village of Maragashen - the 150th anniversary of the resettlement of Armenians to Karabakh, the question is why? There is a lot of discussion, but there is one indisputable fact - Karabakh and its surrounding regions are the internationally recognized territory of Azerbaijan. You are talking about the safety of the Armenians, and who touched them before the well-known events? They lived and worked well in Azerbaijan, held good positions, I give them their due, skillful and hardworking people. And the last, very simple question, why is Armenia a mono-national state, while all the neighboring ones are not? What do you think?
                2. -1
                  20 June 2021 10: 35
                  Quote: vegan
                  But no, they rested their horns and got an inevitable war. Paid for their stupidity

                  Contradict your above comment - June 18, 2021 12:05, according to his logic, the stupidity of the Armenians is not the return of the occupied territories to Azerbaijan, but the absence of the US WB on the territory of the RA ...
        2. +2
          18 June 2021 13: 30
          Quote: vegan
          If instead of the Russian base there was an American base on the territory of Armenia, would the Azerbaijanis dare to go to war against the Armenians or threaten it?

          You are deeply mistaken. Azerbaijan has documents signed by the United States and this will untie the hands of Azerbaijan.

          Quote: vegan
          Even the Serbs did not dare to enter Kosovo

          Serbia is not Azerbaijan, but NATO was openly behind Kosovo. Actually, for the sake of justice, I must say so ........... the rate was placed on Kosovo and Serbia was an ally of Russia and this was a decisive factor.
        3. -1
          20 June 2021 10: 29
          Quote: vegan
          Purely hypothetically, if instead of the Russian base there was an American base on the territory of Armenia, would the Azerbaijanis dare to go to war against the Armenians or threaten it? Ruled out. Even the Serbs did not dare to enter Kosovo when the Americans appeared there.

          You have no "colleagues" on the site, similar screams to the screams of the Russian Central Asian ....
          The US WB did not prevent ISIS from appearing in Iraq with the risk of capturing the last Baghdad ... in the DRA, where the US WB and NATO countries are located The DRA government loses 1-3 regions of the country every week, at the moment the US is evacuating its WB from there, the US withdrawal reminds the flight of the US Armed Forces from Saigon .... most of the B and VTs of the US Armed Forces are transferred to the DRA Armed Forces (as the Armed Forces used to be in Iraq, before the appearance and seizure of its ISIS), this time all the former WB coalition their B and VT left in the DRA will fall into hands to the Taliban ...
          Even the Serbs did not dare to enter Kosovo when the Americans appeared there.

          But 200 paratroopers appeared there, seizing the Slatina airfield in Pristina and plucking up the nerve to be rude to 50 thousand of the united AK of NATO countries ...
          There are our bases in Syria, and before that there was an agreement on military support. So what? So there walk the field. There are only perhaps no Mexicans. The rest of the major countries are playing their game there, not giving a damn about the Russian "defense" of Assad.

          If you are hinting at the Soviet-Syrian treaty of 1980, nothing is written there about the war of the Russian Federation against the enemies of the SAR ...
          I asked him a question about the meaning of the Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation of October 8, 1980, concluded between the USSR and the SAR, and F. Hasan confirmed: "This Treaty, which is very important for Syria, is in effect!"
          Let me remind you that Article XNUMX of the Treaty reads:
          “In the event of a situation that threatens the peace or security of one of the Parties or creates a threat to peace or a violation of peace and security throughout the world, the High Contracting Parties will immediately contact each other in order to coordinate their positions and cooperate to eliminate the threat and restore the world ".

          https://maxpark.com/community/2496/content/1902030
          The agreement on the deployment of the VVS of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the SAR also says nothing about the protection of the Russian Federation of the Assad regime ...
          The text of the Agreement, see link: https://docs.cntd.ru/document/420329053
      4. +3
        18 June 2021 13: 19
        Quote: Finches
        but you are driving this fosterling of Sorov to hell, otherwise the question will arise about your independence!

        Do you want to say that Armenia now has an independent policy?
        1. 0
          18 June 2021 13: 23
          This is exactly what I just do not want to say! Yes, Armenia cannot have any policy of its own, it must historically adhere to the policy of Russia and this is precisely where its success and prosperity lies! Like Ukraine, like Belarus, Kazakhstan ...
          1. -9
            18 June 2021 13: 38
            Who are the countries adhering to Russian policies that are successful and prosperous? This is not the case in Russia itself. Typical resource-poor country
            1. +1
              18 June 2021 14: 18
              Love will be piled in broad daylight laughing
              1. -4
                18 June 2021 14: 22
                What kind of country is this "bulk"? And is this ally of yours thriving?
              2. +3
                18 June 2021 15: 07
                He is rather a supporter of their local "Navalny" - Pashinyan. I am sincerely confident that it is worth getting rid of the presence of Russia and calling for the help of the United States, and everything will immediately go up. America is with us, etc.
                But only during the entire conflict last year, there were no shouts from Washington towards Aliyev. And in the United States they could not help but know that an offensive was being prepared. And they could stop with one call.
                Pashinyan is an illustrative example of what will happen if supporters of a non-systemic "opposition" come to power in our country.
                1. +3
                  18 June 2021 16: 03
                  Quote: Servisinzhener
                  But only during the entire conflict last year, there were no shouts from Washington towards Aliyev.

                  Because their mouth covers their own signatures in the OSCE and UN resolutions.

                  Quote: Servisinzhener
                  And in the United States they could not help but know that an offensive was being prepared.

                  You don't need a lot of intelligence to understand that Pashinyan's words "Karabakh is Armenia and that's it" means I put it on the OSCE, on the UN, and I am violet to the fact that after these words Azerbaijan has nothing left but a war.

                  Quote: Servisinzhener
                  Pashinyan is an illustrative example of what will happen if supporters of a non-systemic "opposition" come to power in our country.

                  Again, do not speak correctly. Pashinyan forgot one truth. On the territory of Armenia, tsarist Russia shed the blood of Russian soldiers, created a country for them, put a poster in front of the entrance to the Gyumri base with the words blessed be the foot of a Russian soldier when it stepped on this land, making it clear who the real boss is.

                  What's the bottom line? They burn the Russian flag, insults, threats that they will go to NATO, and so on ... The war began and Putin said once so brave, come on ........... of course, there was some kind of help, but those who are destined to crawl it is not given to fly !!!! The Armenian soldier has always fought behind the back of the Russian soldier.

                  The outcome of the war even fools were clear.
          2. +2
            19 June 2021 11: 07
            Quote: Finches
            This is exactly what I just do not want to say! Yes, Armenia cannot have any policy of its own, it must historically adhere to the policy of Russia and this is precisely where its success and prosperity lies!

            I agree.
      5. 0
        20 June 2021 10: 04
        Quote: Finches
        And then the question will arise about your independence!

        They insured themselves and concluded a long time ago with the Russian Federation an Agreement on Mutual Military Assistance, for a period until 2044.
    2. -6
      18 June 2021 12: 14
      The mistake of the Bolsheviks, who were trying to please Ataturk, after the collapse of the Republic of Ingushetia. transferred Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijan.
      And history does not tolerate the subjunctive mood.
      1. -5
        18 June 2021 12: 49
        Quote: knn54
        The mistake of the Bolsheviks, who were trying to please Ataturk, after the collapse of the Republic of Ingushetia. transferred Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijan.

        Again the Bolsheviks are to blame ??? belay And what else are they to blame? Maybe in the fact that they laid a gas pipeline through the Outskirts, and not along the bottom of the Baltic? The fact that Baikonur was built on the territory of Kazakhstan, and not in the Amur region? And, of course, they are to blame for feeding Central Asia with the Baltics? Oh, these traitors, the Bolsheviks, came, seized power in the prosperous Russian Empire and twisted business. Mdaaa.
        PS. And they also bequeathed to their descendants in the entrances and elevators to take out the loot over the hill and send families there to live.
      2. 0
        18 June 2021 15: 39
        Didn't they do it in the presence of British troops?
      3. +3
        18 June 2021 16: 06
        Quote: knn54
        transferred Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijan.

        You lie and you lie blatantly !!!! Was Karabakh Armenian before the Bolsheviks? Although sometimes you read the treatise of tsarist Russia, it says not to transfer but to leave !!!!! That's how you lie everywhere and everywhere. Show me when the Bolsheviks handed over Karabakh to Azerbaijan? Year? And you want to say that Karabakh was Armenian a year before it? DON'T HANG THE NOODLES HERE TO PEOPLE !!!!
        1. 0
          19 June 2021 05: 55
          Pyatigorsk & Co., learn history. For several centuries there was Great Armenia, which included Artsakh.
          And Azerbaijan appeared only under the Bolsheviks. There were several separate khanates, including Nakhichevan, which was a subject (like the Khiva Khanate and the Bukhara Emirate) in the Republic of Ingushetia.
          1. -1
            19 June 2021 09: 25
            Quote: knn54
            Pyatigorsk & Co., learn history. For several centuries there was Great Armenia, which included Artsakh.

            I can show you ancient antique maps, although stop, open google and write Armenian Minor Armenian Major and you know what it is? This is not the name of the country but the name of the region. This is the first. Secondly, there is not a single fact and document confirming the country great Armenia. Can you show me at least 1 agreement where there is a word about them or about the Armenians? You won't find. Artsakh was created not in Great Armenia, but in Caucasian Albania, and the founder of Artsakh was KHASAN JALAL DOLA. Not Ashot Petrosyan, but Hasan Jalal. Or do ancient Armenians have problems with the identity of their Turkic names? Moreover, Hasan Jalal had the title of MALIK, not a king, not a prince, but MALIK.

            Quote: knn54
            And Azerbaijan appeared only under the Bolsheviks.

            Don't hang the noodles I said !!!! You are in history ZERO !!!! Map of Tsarist Russia 18th century. Well??????????? Bolsheviks?

            1. +1
              20 June 2021 08: 36
              Pyatigorsk, apparently you don't read ANYTHING except Google?
              1.Then get at least THIS:
              https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D0%B8%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD_II
              (Tigran (Armenian Տիգրան, Greek Τιγράνης, Latin Tigranes) II Great; (140 BC - 55 BC) - the king of Great Armenia, a major commander and conqueror of the Hellenistic era, who ruled in 95 - 55 BC Grandson of Artashes I
              2.https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%B7%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B6%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%85%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0
              Azerbaijani khanates ...
              the conditional name of the feudal possessions, mainly led by the Azerbaijani Turkic-speaking dynasties], which arose on the territory of the former provinces of the Safavid state (runaways) as a result of the collapse of the state of Nadir Shah in the middle of the XNUMXth century ...
              Experience the difference between the 1st century BC and the 18th century.
              3.https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%B7%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B6%D0%B0%D0%BD
              Until 1918, Azerbaijan meant
              first of all, the territory around Lake Urmia, once occupied by Atropatena, south of the Araks River, although in some periods of history the name "Azerbaijan" spread to some territories north of the Araks.

              The term "Azerbaijan" as the official name of the state was first used on May 28, 1918
      4. +2
        18 June 2021 16: 13
        Quote: knn54
        transferred Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijan.


        Moreover, you don’t know the story, but you are lying too blatantly !!!!! The treatise was signed in 1868. It already belonged to the Azerbaijanis and then became under tsarist Russia and these Bolsheviks about which you are not hanging noodles here but LEFT as part of Azerbaijan. Now go and look where there is even a word about the Armenians ??????????????????????????????????? All sorts of sofa experts and historians hang noodles here. Of course, there are some sofa experts who say that it belonged to Persia, and Karabakh was under the Persian crown, but look who ruled Persia for THOUSANDS OF YEARS? Do you think that Azerbaijanis in Iran in the amount of 40-60 million fell from the moon?


        1. +1
          19 June 2021 03: 06
          Quote: Patigorsk2020
          Quote: knn54
          transferred Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijan.


          .... The treatise was signed in 1868. It already belonged to Azerbaijanis and then became under Tsarist Russia .......


          what is this strange spelling on sheet 2?
          remake?
          or a copy from the remake))))
          1. -1
            19 June 2021 09: 27
            Quote: Gunter
            what is this strange spelling on sheet 2?
            remake?
            or a copy from the remake))))


            Any more questions dear?

            1. +2
              19 June 2021 20: 34
              Quote: Patigorsk2020
              Quote: Gunter
              what is this strange spelling on sheet 2?
              remake?
              or a copy from the remake))))


              Any more questions dear?



              yes, education at a respected vocational school or a culinary college?
              I give the answer - on 2-3 sheets of remake of the lazy and not knowing what the font (spelling) looks like in official documents of the 19th century RI, PTUushnik.
              Any questions?
    3. -1
      20 June 2021 10: 01
      Quote: Flashpoint
      It would be better if I thought about the beginning of the last war at one time ...

      So for this, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Armenia is ... and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Armenia ...
  2. +7
    18 June 2021 11: 03
    And not recognition has already led to war ..... and further games and distance from the Russian Federation, the Turks can reassure and they will remember about some kind of territory.
    1. +18
      18 June 2021 11: 09
      “If a country chooses shame between war and shame, it will get both war and shame.” Winston Churchill.
      1. +8
        18 June 2021 11: 15
        And if the country .... (or rather the people) which has already been subjected to genocide from famous neighbors ... and was saved by another neighbor .. has not learned anything and is playing in independence, then how will it end?
        1. -1
          20 June 2021 10: 51
          Quote: Zaurbek
          And if the country .... (or rather the people) which has already been subjected to genocide from famous neighbors ... and was saved by another neighbor .. has not learned anything and is playing in independence, then how will it end?

          Will end on moving to permanent residence at the Moskvoretsky and Velozavodsky markets of Moscow ....
    2. +4
      18 June 2021 11: 19
      In general, the Turks owe the Armenians, and not vice versa! Kars, Ararat and much more.
      1. +5
        18 June 2021 11: 22
        A lot of people that owe ..... The Turks have decided this issue and are still deciding. The Armenians, if they can, let them take it back.
        1. +1
          18 June 2021 11: 26
          Why are you tearing up so much for the Turks? I personally have not seen, and I do not see anything good in them, they only need to be beaten once a year and the memory to be refreshed, for us - Russia is a bad neighbor. All the wars in the Caucasus are precisely because of them, which the Nagliks have dragged on.
          1. +1
            18 June 2021 16: 21
            Quote: d1975
            I personally have not seen, and do not see anything good in them

            Tourists who are vacationing in Turkey will disagree with you. I can give a lot of such examples.

            Quote: d1975
            All the wars in the Caucasus are precisely because of them, which the Nagliks have dragged on.

            I understand you graduated from vocational school? or a schoolboy?
            1. 0
              21 June 2021 02: 01
              Too old for a student, great-grandfather served in Kars. Higher education. MS RF. Enough?
          2. -1
            20 June 2021 10: 57
            I'm not tearing for anyone ... I'm just writing about the situation with Armenia and the fact that Armenia alone will end up badly in the foreseeable future, if it remains alone with Turkey and Azerbaijan. And to save it (Armenia) can only be some kind of vassal agreement with the Russian Federation or joining the Russian Federation (I have no opinion whether the Russian Federation needs it or not).
      2. +5
        18 June 2021 11: 47
        Yes, they all owe them, why should they be trifles.
      3. +1
        18 June 2021 16: 19
        Quote: d1975
        In general, the Turks owe the Armenians, and not vice versa! Kars, Ararat and much more.

        The Armenians owe it to the Turks. Thanks to which they have both cooking and music and their words are 6000 Turkic words and Turkic surnames and their ancient duduk which is advertised is the same Turkic DYUDYUY who became a duduk and there are a lot of such examples. And if you do not know, the toponym arman, erman, irman, ermen are Turkic and they are haik -i. So stop talking nonsense here.
  3. +2
    18 June 2021 11: 18
    If you think so, it is difficult for Armenia, as a people, to make a decision.

    In fact, due to its weakness, it cannot be independent, it is necessary to lie under someone. And this is a difficult choice in general.
    1. +1
      18 June 2021 11: 24
      In their case, time to think is not in their favor.
    2. +7
      18 June 2021 11: 28
      What a difficult choice? Will Uncle Sam scold? Themselves, like most of the former republics without Russia nooooool! Ponty are so sovereign, everything else is zero!
      1. 0
        18 June 2021 11: 41
        Uncle Sam has nothing to do with it ..... The Turks are sharpening a knife and will gladly solve the problem. In Syria, they have already cleared out the Christians where they could.
      2. +3
        18 June 2021 12: 08
        So it is so, but only in Russia they are also zero.

        Hence the complexity of the choice.
        1. 0
          19 June 2021 00: 33
          As part of Russia, they cannot be zero, let's talk about the republics of Tataria, although there were many problems in the 2000s. YES, this is not a Union, but you can come up with a model, there would be a goal.
          1. 0
            19 June 2021 01: 40
            The country either has independence (its own foreign and domestic policies, national identity, etc.), or is someone's satellite / protectorate / province.

            And whose protectorate to be is not so important. How to choose a kind master.
            1. 0
              20 June 2021 10: 59
              Only this will save the Armenians ..... and without any signs of independence.
    3. -1
      20 June 2021 10: 56
      Quote: Sancho_SP
      If you think so, it is difficult for Armenia, as a people, to make a decision.

      They made the decision 30 years ago, leaving the USSR ...
      it is necessary to lie under someone. And this is a difficult choice in general.

      Nothing difficult, choosing Pashinyan, they made their choice in favor of the United States, the EU, and most importantly freebies and the absence of the need to do something by themselves ...
      1. 0
        20 June 2021 12: 35
        Is a freebie and no need to overcome difficulties bad?

        Another thing is that the conventional West never gives anything to anyone just like that, and does not even promise to give. But for some reason everyone is dreaming about it ..
        1. -1
          20 June 2021 12: 48
          Quote: Sancho_SP
          Another thing is that the conventional West never gives anything to anyone just like that, and does not even promise to give.

          No freebies ts The freedom-loving Armenian people, "gravitating" towards European values, will not go to the EU, therefore the liberoids make the main emphasis in their propaganda, just on the latter ...
          But for some reason everyone is dreaming about it ..

          Is it possible to dream of a freebie when talking about European values ​​-
          This is bad?
  4. +5
    18 June 2021 11: 35
    Pashinyan: Recognition of Karabakh independence by Armenia could lead to war
    ... And they didn't get the war anyway and lost with a whistle .... everything is as usual! You run to shame about war, you get both!
  5. +5
    18 June 2021 11: 46
    What a pretentious word - a corridor. An ordinary single-track railway, built in time immemorial on the left bank of the Araks, put the sleepers-rails and ride to health even from Nakhichevan to Baku, even from Baku to Nakhichevan ...
  6. +4
    18 June 2021 11: 46
    He normally holds onto the chair, even when obvious questions arise, he does not take anything!
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  8. +8
    18 June 2021 12: 32
    I know what the outraged residents of Yerevan are now throwing at. But I will express my opinion: for all the years since the last war, the Armenians have not done anything to strengthen the defense. We received weapons from Russia at domestic prices, on debt, on credit, on a mortgage ... Most of the local population lives very well in Sochi and Moscow, doing legal business and not so much, occupying leadership positions, siphoning money from the budget. With all this, they managed to accuse Russia of the occupation, while at the same time building an American embassy of unprecedented size. There is another side - Azerbaijan. Who have always regularly paid with "real" money for the supplied equipment, who also trade on the Russian market, but do not blame the Russians for the occupation. And so a conflict began between them over the territory that the Armenians did not need. Yes, yes it is unnecessary! For during the entire period of its ownership, nothing was done! Even the sovereignty of N. Karabakh was not recognized by the Armenians. Further, following the Armenian logic, apparently borrowed from the Ukrainians, the invader, represented by Russia, had to get involved in a war on their side against his neighbor fulfilling all his obligations, incl. financial. In this world of surlyism, Russia again found itself to blame for all the troubles of its younger brother, whom it once saved from destruction by the Ottomans, kept, protected, fed, and instead of gratitude received claims and accusations of occupation. Dear "younger brothers and sisters", live on your own, and we'll see how long you can last without us! And I would like there to be enough space in Sochi and Moscow for the indigenous people of this multinational country!
    1. 0
      18 June 2021 14: 33
      Quote: Marachuh
      what the outraged residents of Yerevan are now throwing at. But I will express my opinion: for all the years since the last war, the Armenians have not done anything to strengthen the defense.

      You are not right. They did everything. Bunkers, underground tunnels, trenches, minefields and so on. It's just that in the 21st century, the defenses of the 20th century don't work.

      Quote: Marachuh
      We received weapons from Russia at domestic prices, on debt, on credit, on a mortgage ...

      + for days on a flight through Iran received ammunition and equipment from Russia.

      Quote: Marachuh
      With all this, they managed to accuse Russia of the occupation, while at the same time building an American embassy of unprecedented size.

      This is called and they want to eat a fish and .....................

      Quote: Marachuh
      And so a conflict began between them over the territory that the Armenians did not need. Yes, yes it is unnecessary! For during the entire period of its ownership, nothing was done!

      What is not necessary, I agree. There is no stone upon stone. Because deep down they know that this is not their land. Man decorates his land and does not destroy. And I did a lot of things.

      Quote: Marachuh
      Even the sovereignty of N. Karabakh was not recognized by the Armenians.

      A) Because this is not their land. How can you not admit what is yours? B) They always love to do everything with someone else's hands.

      Quote: Marachuh
      Russia again turned out to be to blame for all the troubles of the younger brother

      Brother? It is an insult to me to call this relationship brotherly. Above you write that you are happy to sell weapons for real money to Azerbaijan, which will kill the Armenians "brothers" and here you call yourself a brother. If a brother gives a weapon to his brother's enemy so that he can destroy him, then what kind of brotherhood is this?

      Quote: Marachuh
      Dear "younger brothers and sisters", live on your own, and we'll see how long you can survive without us!

      for many centuries they lived without Russia and did not live badly. More than 60% of politicians and diplomats in the Ottoman Empire were Armenians, UNTIL the one-eared General Andranik appeared. You just think they live and work in Turkey by hundreds of thousands.

      Quote: Marachuh
      And I would like there to be enough space in Sochi and Moscow for the indigenous people of this multinational country!

      they love their "homeland" more from outside. From Argentina to California and from Marseille to Sochi.
      1. +1
        18 June 2021 15: 46
        They should have built a railway to Karabakh, and borrowed money from their beloved Soros, but this was not done. Bones lie down, according to Nekrasov's poem about the construction of the Petersburg-Moscow railway. Or build tunnels like in Afghanistan through Salang.
        It was the poor transport accessibility of Karabakh that became the key to defeat in the large-scale conflict that happened.
      2. 0
        18 June 2021 20: 34
        Selling weapons ... this is not how weapons kill, but people! Or do you think that Kalashnikov is to blame for the death of the Russians from the AK-47? And in all deaths from firearms, in all wars, are the Ktaisians with their gunpowder to blame?
  9. 0
    18 June 2021 14: 06
    He also participates in elections ... It seemed to me that according to the results of his previous leadership, the Armenians should hate him terribly. He can hardly count on success!
    1. +2
      18 June 2021 16: 24
      Quote: Daria33
      It seemed to me that following the results of his previous leadership, the Armenians should hate him terribly.

      why hate him? the reason can you name what is his fault?
      1. -1
        18 June 2021 17: 20
        Hasn't he lost anything?
        1. +1
          19 June 2021 09: 32
          Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
          Hasn't he lost anything?

          why did he lose? Didn't the people say that there was a war, we’ll drink tea in Baku? Believe me, Pashinyan did everything the people wanted. And now they are pulling him out. absolution. Believe it !!!
  10. -1
    18 June 2021 15: 49
    And Karabakh should have been recognized much earlier, when Azerbaijan was not yet so strong. And now, of course, after such a heavy defeat, it is much more difficult to do it.
    1. +3
      18 June 2021 16: 26
      Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
      And Karabakh should have been recognized much earlier

      what will it change? The whole world recognizes it as Azerbaijani, including Russia.

      Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
      And now, of course, after such a heavy defeat, it is much more difficult to do it.

      It's not much more difficult, it's impossible at all !!! After that, the very independence of Armenia, which is not in the prince, will generally be fabulous.
    2. 0
      20 June 2021 11: 03
      It would help only in one thing - the Turks with Azerbaijan would attack the territory of Armenia ... and the Russian Federation would have to take protection of the territory of Armenia, and its Armed Forces could fight in Karabakh ... If it was interesting for the Russian Federation, then success would be did not happen ....... But for such a scenario, in addition to the Armenians and recognition, there should be a lot of things .......... both in the Russian Federation and in Azerbaijan and in Armenia.
      1. 0
        20 June 2021 13: 22
        But, it is somewhat strange to see how Armenia does not recognize Karabakh as its part. In such conditions, Russia cannot decide.
        1. +1
          20 June 2021 13: 32
          Liberalism ... deforms a lot.
          1. 0
            20 June 2021 13: 35
            You cannot envy Armenia, over the past hundred and a half years everyone has betrayed it, and the imaginary allies in fact turned out to be enemies. The Anglo-Saxons, who were on the side of Turkey and Azerbaijan, especially distinguished themselves.
            1. 0
              20 June 2021 21: 33
              Therefore it is necessary to draw conclusions .... sober.

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