US Press: Exercises to destroy conventional S-400 air defense systems are being conducted in northern Africa

The American press comes out with material that tells about the international exercises African Lion 2021 under the command of the United States. The maneuvers are being carried out in northern Africa. According to the columnist for The Drive, Joseph Trevithick, one of the stages of the exercise was the breakthrough of the air defense of a mock enemy, organized using Russian-made S-300 and S-400 systems.

With reference to the twitter account kmldial70, it is reported that the destruction of the conditional S-400 Triumph air defense system was carried out. Objects at the Moroccan military base Agadir were designated as such. The military base is located near the city of the same name (population about 750 thousand people) in the southwestern part of Morocco.

In the material of the American edition it is stated that earlier "the probability of deliveries of S-300 or S-400 from Russia to Libya was studied." This possibility was considered after the visit to Moscow of the Libyan Marshal Khalifa Haftar. However, later the Americans themselves (the US African Command) denied rumors about such supplies. At the same time, the training of strikes on conditional Russian air defense systems with the training of their destruction from the air by the Americans is being carried out.

The African Lion 2021 military maneuvers will end June 18 - Friday.

In the reports of Western sources, citing footage from the African exercises of NATO and US forces, it is said that "a blow was struck at two conditional S-400 complexes."

At the same time, it is suggested that for this purpose, strategic bombers B-52H of the US Air Force could be used conditionally (in the form of a military tactical imitation game, and such games are often held within the framework of exercises in NATO and with the participation of NATO forces).

It should be added that the only African country armed with relatively modern Russian-made air defense systems - the S-300 - is Algeria. No country on the African continent has the S-400 air defense system.

On this occasion, the network joked: conditionally destroyed the conditional S-400 of the conditional enemy with conditional bombers ...

Comments

[Victor_B]

Well, at least, they are not training on the Algerian S-300 ...
That's when they get to the Turkish S-400s (Erdogan is not forever), then too - OH!
(Objections that the option is "export", keep to yourself. Russia would be happy to get the "export" Patriot ...
Even more expensive than it sells!)

[lucul]

Russia with great pleasure would get the "export" Patriot ...
Even more expensive than it sells!)

What do you mean - the sectarians will come running right now, proving that the sale of weapons is good, and there can be no leakage of technology here)))

[voyaka uh]

"That's when the Turkish S-400 will get to" ///
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Not necessary.
S-400 in Khmeimim is based near the sea.
It is easy to probe the capabilities of its radars from neutral waters, without risking an international conflict. Draw the cleanliness at which it works, see the distances when the complex goes from stand by to active position. Fix the timing (minutes-seconds) of activation.
Reconnaissance planes regularly fly along the coast of Syria and all of the above has already been done.

[Victor_B]

Quote: voyaka uh

Not necessary.

"You're offended, boss!" (from)
Peacetime work (and we have peace with Israel?) Is carried out on only a couple of three frequencies. To scare away purely ... If there is an order and you can shoot down.
But if the war is an adult, then the seals are removed and - surprise!
By the way, not much is changing ...
And a lot!
This is not the P-12 with its four preset frequencies.

[voyaka uh]

I was referring mainly to American reconnaissance planes.
If the S-400 Khmeimim operates "on only a couple of three frequencies" in "peacetime",
then she will not be able to defend the base from a surprise attack by any aggressor.
And the complex is meaningless.
Therefore, your hypothesis, alas, is untenable.
Or an air defense complex on alert, or not on alert.
Israel's air defense is always fully on alert.
There is no "peacetime" and "wartime".
You can study the air defense activity, copy the frequencies as much as you like,
but air defense cannot be taken by surprise.

[Victor_B]

Quote: voyaka uh

There is no "peacetime" and "wartime".
You can study the air defense activity, copy the frequencies as much as you like,

This is you for me, who studied the stations and sat at the IKO?
Remain in the dark ...
If only your command would be the same idealists ...

[family tree]

Do you want a terrible military secret? On the old s-125 air defense system, even on the "chord", if the target puts active noise interference, they simply switched to another frequency.
No, not Pechora, Neva.
And cho, my subscription has expired

[hrych]

Quote: voyaka uh

Sketch purity

And what will this purity give you? Hygiene?

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: voyaka uh

Not necessary.
S-400 in Khmeimim is based near the sea.
It is easy to probe the capabilities of its radars from neutral waters, without risking an international conflict. Draw the cleanliness at which it works, see the distances when the complex goes from stand by to active position. Fix the timing (minutes-seconds) of activation.
Reconnaissance planes regularly fly along the coast of Syria and all of the above has already been done.

And where are the guarantees that the S-400 radars are working, and not, say, Sky-M? And what prevents you from using one frequency or a small range of frequencies at normal times? What can you find out there?

[voyaka uh]

Which radar works, and in which mode (minimum or active)
the reconnaissance planes know for sure. This is their main job.
If an unidentified plane flies from the sea towards Khmeimim,
and the S-400 radar does not go into active mode, then the base will be defenseless.
Promote the main air defense complex of Russia to such an advanced position,
into a hostile environment, it was a big mistake.

[Gardener91]

Quote: voyaka uh

What radar works, and in what mode

And you admit that the "S-400 radar" is capable of seeing in passive mode, and guidance and launch in extrapolar mode, and the target itself is illuminated at the final stage of the trajectory by the projectile itself in a matter of seconds in order to correct the trajectory and bring the fuses (contact and non-contact ) to the desired time range. At the same time, it is possible (!) The supply of false coordinates of both the radar itself and the missile)) So let them train.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Gardener91

And you admit that the "S-400 radar" is capable of seeing in passive mode, and guidance and launch in extrapolar mode, and the target itself is illuminated at the final stage of the trajectory by the projectile itself in a matter of seconds in order to correct the trajectory and bring the fuses (contact and non-contact ) to the desired time range. In this case, it is possible (!) The supply of false coordinates of both the radar itself and the rocket))

It seems that there is no air defense game yet ...
And such knowledge!
Tanks are our everything!

[family tree]

And in the passive reception it goes well. Especially across Mediterranean. There emitters, like fleas at barboski, only catch the reflections. Any civilian airport shines the sky, mom do not cry.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

And where are the guarantees that the S-400 radars are working, and not, say, Sky-M?

The sky is a station for a circular view of the meter (and, like, at the same time, UHF) range. The accuracy of determining the coordinates does not allow aiming at the target.
Will give the elevation angle, range, and approximately altitude.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Victor_B

The sky is a station for a circular view of the meter (and, like, at the same time, UHF) range. The accuracy of determining the coordinates does not allow aiming at the target.
Will give the elevation angle, range, and approximately altitude.

The Sky-M radar complex includes 3 radars: the Sky-IED meter range, the Opponent-G decimeter range and the Gamma-C1 centimeter range.

[Gardener91]

Quote: Victor_B

Will give the elevation angle, range, and approximately altitude.

And perhaps the main thing is the direction of movement of the target, speed ...

[IL-18]

Quote: Victor_B

Patriot

Well, how would I put square containers at an angle, and voila - Patriot

[Petro_tut]

That's when they get to the Turkish S-400s (Erdogan is not forever), then too - OH!
(Objections that the "export" option, leave to yourself

So relax, first a couple of drones will emit airplanes to discharge air defense batteries, and then something like meteors will work on the surface, with all that it implies ...

[Knell wardenheart]

The value of such maneuvers specifically against the S-400, for example (without the S-400 itself), is negligible, rather if you can see the value - then this is an experience for influencing some elements of A2 / AD with the development of some tactical techniques.
The fact that the Americans can quite well imagine the capabilities of missiles for the S-400 does not cause me much doubt, after all, a rocket is an aerodynamic object with certain restrictions on overloads, etc. They definitely had the opportunity to study missiles for the S-400, they also had the opportunity to study launchers - because the complex is located on the territory of the NATO state (Turkey).
How can the conditionally "our" version differ from the conditionally export one? Hardware stuffing, better radar and guidance systems, more advanced missile options - all these are qualitative moments, of course, but the overall potential boundaries can be fairly accurately represented by export options. Accordingly, and vulnerability.
However, in the case of our defense, NATO is waiting for a network centric and a complex of means, which they cannot simulate.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

The value of such maneuvers specifically against the S-400, for example (without the S-400 itself) is negligible,

This is yes ...
But!
The logistics itself is the most important stage of the exercise!
Newly minted leto should feel in their own skin all the charm of loading and unloading equipment, marching in a column to the landfill through dirt / dermischu, towing of failed equipment (and it will always be), reviving electronics after the march, combat shooting themselves, working with l / s (do not give get drunk and violate disgrace), upon the return of the PPD, again mothball the equipment, etc.
If cho - I went, I know ...

[Magnat231]

Yes, that's just, for lovers of conspiracies, any export version is truncated, I can repeat, truncated, I served at the outpost, we had the Credo radar, and so, we went to the service and used one, well, the second frequency, but there were also frequencies that can only be used in wartime, well, something like this

[out of habit]

And did the "objects" somehow imitate the S-400? Or was it even possible for the Martians to be presented as an enemy?

[Sands Careers General]

conditionally destroyed the conditional S-400 of the conditional enemy with conditional bombers ...

Conditional warriors, conditional ammunition.
Also conditional.
Kindergarten, honestly))

[KJIETyc]

Quote: voyaka uh

"That's when the Turkish S-400 will get to" ///
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Not necessary.
S-400 in Khmeimim is based near the sea.
It is easy to probe the capabilities of its radars from neutral waters, without risking an international conflict. Draw the cleanliness at which it works, see the distances when the complex goes from stand by to active position. Fix the timing (minutes-seconds) of activation.
Reconnaissance planes regularly fly along the coast of Syria and all of the above has already been done.

It is strange, when the same conjectures are written about the F-35, the sectarians are ready to throw Luneberg lenses with their hats, and here it’s like - fools on the c400 threw out all the trump cards on the table.
F

[rocket757]

US Press: Exercises to destroy conventional S-400 air defense systems are being conducted in northern Africa

You will not check, in real life, you will not know anything ... especially in real life, with US, our complexes alone "do not walk" ... but they work, they are such a friendly group, DEATH!