Flight tests of the third Be-200PS amphibious aircraft for the Ministry of Defense began in Taganrog

In Taganrog, flight tests of the next Be-200 amphibious aircraft, built for the Ministry of Defense, began. The first flight took place on June 16 at the factory airfield TANTK im. Beriev.

According to the bmpd blog, this aircraft is the third built for the naval aviation Ministry of Defense under the 2018 contract. Unlike the first one, executed in the BE-200ES version (search and rescue with fire extinguishing function), the second and third aircraft are made in the Be-200PS version (search and rescue without fire extinguishing function).

The first Be-200ES, which received its own name "Alexander Mamkin", was transferred on July 14, 2020 to the 190th mixed training aviation regiment on the basis of the 859th Center for Combat Training and Retraining of Flight Personnel of the Naval Aviation of the Russian Navy in Yeisk. The second built Be-200PS at the beginning of this year was formally handed over to the military, but continues to be at the Aircraft Company named after Beriev.

The third Be-200PS began flight tests, so far there is no information on further plans for this aircraft.

The first contract for the Ministry of Defense to supply six Be-200 amphibious aircraft - two Be-200ES aircraft and four modified Be-200PS aircraft (without fire fighting function) - was concluded in 2013. In 2017, the contract was terminated due to the inability of TANTK to build aircraft. In 2018, the contract was renewed, ordering only three Be-200ES aircraft.

Initially, it was planned that the Ministry of Defense will receive all three aircraft by the end of 2020, but only the first one was handed over. Meanwhile, in December last year, the Ministry of Defense ordered two more Be-200ES amphibious aircraft for delivery by the end of 2022.

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[Peak]

The question is - if for the Ministry of Defense, for the army, then whose engines and avionics are they worth?

[rocket757]

A logical question ... how many tsuzogo is there and whose is it?

[URAL72]

Yes, it is interesting. But judging by the throwing with the amount - 6, 3, +2, it looks like the engine's cover is leaking somewhere ...

[Peak]

Quote: URAL72

Yes, it is interesting. But judging by the throwing with the amount - 6, 3, +2, it looks like the engine's cover is leaking somewhere ...

It doesn't matter which "leaks" - Ukrainian, or "Russian-French", it is disgusting that OUR engine has not yet "leaked" ...

[Peak]

Quote: rocket757

A logical question ... how many tsuzogo is there and whose is it?

The power plant of the amphibious aircraft was originally intended to include two D-436TP bypass turbojet engines developed by the Progress ZMKB (Zaporozhye, Ukraine).
The turbine production was entrusted to Motor Sich and UMPO. The possibility of equipping the export version with Rolls-Royce Allison engines was also considered, but this would require anew 70% of the certification work, so the intentions were not implemented.

Later, in view of the Maidan events, with some delay in 2018, Ukraine imposed a ban on the supply of engines of the D-436 family to Russia. In this regard, the United Engine Corporation (UEC) has begun measures to replace the Ukrainian power plant with the Franco-Russian power plant SaM146.

But in April 2019, the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation banned replacing Ukrainian engines from the Russian Be-200 amphibious aircraft with engines with parts produced by NATO countries.

So how did you get out of a difficult and contradictory situation?

[nov_tech.vrn]

Delivery from the OPK of Abkhazia, there is also a box of tangerines as a bonus.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: nov_tech.vrn

there is also a box of tangerines as a bonus.

On the ! Bers daragoy, kushiy!

[family tree]

At the expense of avionics, fig it ...
And the engines, except for Motor Sich, are made by Ufa residents. There is such a city, Ufa, there is also the Belaya River, when I read about Chapaev, as a child, at Furmanov's, I remembered.

[Peak]

Quote: perepilka

engines, except for Motor Sich, are made by Ufa residents.

Honestly, honestly, I have not heard about the Ufa engines that can be used on the Be-200 ...

[family tree]

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AIR MOTORS D-436TP WILL BE ASSEMBLED AT UFIMSK


According to Vyacheslav Boguslaev, General Director of Motor Sich JSC, if for the first eight Be-200 amphibious aircraft manufactured by Irkut Scientific and Production Corporation for the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Russian Federation, D-436TP aircraft engines are manufactured and assembled by Motor Sich JSC, then for the next batch of Be-200 aircraft, aircraft engines of this type will be assembled at the Ufa Engine-Building Production Association (UMPO).

It is planned that in the future UMPO will carry out the final assembly of D-436 aircraft engines for Tu-334 and Be-200 aircraft as the head enterprise of Russia in the cooperation program in the serial production of D-436 aircraft engines. However, UMPO will receive up to two thirds of all units and engine parts for cooperative deliveries from Motor Sich JSC and the Moscow engine-building enterprise Salyut - this is the distribution of responsibilities under the D-436 program, the source of AviaPort.Ru said.

According to him, while engines for the fourth aircraft have been supplied for the Be-200, this aircraft must now be handed over to the Russian Emergencies Ministry. As of today, the delivery of the next set has been paid for and there is no fear that the current schedule for the supply of aircraft engines may have any complications.


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Blame for the footcloth from the fourth, but now the twenty-first

[Peak]

Quote: perepilka

Blame for the footcloth

Exactly - a footcloth, from which it is not clear whether these engines are currently being produced in Ufa ...

And it is doubtful that the D-436, all rights to which are held by Motorsich (count from Ukraine), can be produced here.

[family tree]

Here, damn you not the USSR. In 2004, the documentation, and therefore the technology, was transferred. 2019 fucking profit. Everything, and so already told too much. Well!?
About Ruslanov an-22?

[Peak]

Quote: perepilka

2019 fucking profit.

Exactly, "fucking profit" due to order fulfillment for THREE Be-200, or does the plant produce some other product that makes money?

Quote: perepilka

In 2004, the documentation, and therefore the technology, was transferred.

As it was transferred (and was it even betrayed?), So in February 2018 and was recalled after the imposition of sanctions by Ukraine ...

Quote: perepilka

Here, damn you are not the USSR

This is exactly You still think in terms of the Union, but now is a different period, and the relationship between enterprises cannot be measured by the former economic ties.

[family tree]

I am just a stock starley, with three VUS and not a bad pension. I could have been a captain, but it’s not even mine. So that I will remain old. Oh, yes, the USSR Oath.
Count it up, just now, you lowered the Bashkirs below the Chinese.
,

[Peak]

Quote: perepilka

I am just a stock starley, with three VUS and not a bad pension. I could have been a captain, but it’s not even mine. So that I will remain old. Oh, yes, the USSR Oath.

But in any case, your VUS, and everything else, do not in any way affect the fact that the Be-200 and US have a problem with the engines.

[igor67]

Quote: perepilka

Ruslanov an-22?

On the AN22 there are NK12 MA 2 series, Kuibyshevsky, what is the connection with Ukraine

[family tree]

What is the speech about! Processing in Ulyanovsk, but this Ukraine, is trying hard. An, like urainsky, although Antonov, nifiga not Antonenko.

[family tree]

Do you know why Chinese fighters don't buy?
Everyone is good, the motor resource is small. The same theme with Ukrainian tanks, to disperse a two-cycle vehicle, with two crankshafts in the horizontal to three thousand, this Junkers suitcase. It is necessary to put it on the horizon, it has been proven on Russian diesel locomotives of railways
Speech about what! Come on by yourself ... by yourself!

[Kushka]

Chapaev's rivers somehow did not grow together.
From the jokes:
Young search engines found their grandfather, who
Chapaev was the last to see. Gathered people at school,
brought this grandfather and ask- It is true that
You were the last to see Chapaev?
- True, I was sitting by the river, and he floats. I'm on the trigger
tra-ta-ta ... and I never saw him again.

[family tree]

I would read, besides anecdotes, about the path of the 25th Infantry Division, under the command of Vasily Ivanovich Chapaev. If you start, you will be surprised to find out that he is, well, never a cavalryman, but if you look closely, the 25th brigade, the most motorized, is a BTG in fact.
Everything is new, this is the forgotten old. Denis Davydov tactical group terrifying in the rear of the enemy. Michal Yurich Lermontov, commander of the DRG, this is only Russian poets!
Well, Alexander Sergeich, also like Benkendorf Lyaksandr Khristoforich, was listed as counterintelligence officer

[Kushka]

And I have read and will advise everyone to Chapaev's daughter Claudia. Not much is known about Chapaev's daughter Claudia Vasilievna. For many years she worked as an instructor at the Bauman District Committee of the CPSU in Moscow, but did not become an "iron party lady", retaining a lively, ironic mind and excellent memory. She has something to read about - she has been looking for the truth about her father all her life, and she had opportunities.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: perepilka

There is such a city, Ufa, there is also the Belaya River, when I read about Chapaev, as a child, at Furmanov's, I remembered.

The White River is good, Chapaev is even better, but the fact that there is no engine for the BE-200 PS is too bad.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: PiK

The question is - if for the Ministry of Defense, for the army, then whose engines and avionics are they worth?

Since 2018, work has been underway to replace the Ukrainian D-436 with the SaM146.

[Piramidon]

Quote: PiK

The question is - if for the Ministry of Defense, for the army, then whose engines and avionics are they worth?

Most likely, not all Ukrainian engines were immediately put on airplanes, which also came to warehouses as spare ones. It is possible that for now, until better times, these reserves are being used.

[Peak]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

Since 2018, work has been underway to replace the Ukrainian D-436 with the SaM146.

Quoting from my other comment on this topic:

Quote: PiK

In April 2019, the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation prohibited replacing Ukrainian engines from the Russian Be-200 amphibious aircraft with engines with parts produced by NATO countries.

And based on this, the WHOLE nomenclature of parts and components for these engines should produced by us.

100% localization.

[KCA]

SaM146 was going to be manufactured at UEC-Saturn, they have a joint venture

[Peak]

Quote: KCA

SaM146 was going to be manufactured at UEC-Saturn, they have a joint venture

"SP", not "SP", it doesn't matter The only important thing is that the engine must be 100% manufactured in Russia from our materials, and we must own all the technical and legal documentation.

Then it can be installed on the Be-200 for the army, other options are prohibited.

[Peak]

Quote: ODERVIT

And for what purpose are you interested?

Why, I thought candle factory deliver, but decided not to waste time on trifles, to buy a stake in a plant producing turbines for the Be-200 ...

[YOUR]

There were Ukrainian ones until 2018, on this one the French SaM146 were installed. They are also installed on the Superjet 100. The onboard equipment complex ARIA-200M (American-Russian integrated avionics for the Be-200, modernized) was developed by NII AO jointly with the American company AlliedSignal.
In general, something like that.

[AbacUssR]

D-436TP engines, maximum Russian grade

[Peak]

Quote: AbacUssR

D-436TP engines, maximum Russian grade

It is impossible to clarify about "maximum Russian configuration"?

After all, it can be interpreted like this - " 10% of Russian components, and this is the maximum "

[g1v2]

Ukrainian engines from a stash. Our pd 8 is still in the manufacturing process. So far, only the gasifier is being tested. Today it seems like the first stage of testing has been completed. Then it will be necessary to test the entire engine. Then certify. Plus, they will most likely be the first to put it on the new superjets. Tch xs when the Beria people get 8. Hardly in 22-23. But of course I could be wrong.

[Marachuh]

When will there be motors? And the series is needed! For customers - a firefighter. For MO, PLO.

[family tree]

Cho yelling then? Ufa, makes the same engines, for the year before last, about 15 and lard profit. Give food to the gyrus. Or I eat in it. Everything is open.

[businessv]

Quote: PiK

And it is doubtful that the D-436, all rights to which are held by Motorsich (count from Ukraine), can be produced here.

It depends on how the contract was concluded! It's like Makita, or a hundred other companies, whose products are manufactured in the PRC, the rights to the brand and products belong to the customer firms. Whoever orders the development, manufacture, pays, is the owner. Sometimes the customer provides already developed certain ready-made assemblies. Another thing is that the same products. with minor changes, it can be used by the manufacturer under a different name.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: businessv

It depends on how the contract was concluded

Yes, at least how.
Sanctions,
that's it, no trade.
Only by roundabout paths through third countries.
And then, periodically calculate and suppress.
Again, neither the Ufa plant itself nor Rostec mention these engines in the product range.

[ODERVIT]

I am sure there is a solution and the process has started. Remember the history of TV3-117 and the result of VK-2500.

[Diverter]

Three aircraft for the Russian Navy ?????

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Saboteur

Three aircraft for the Russian Navy ?????

Originally wanted six. But Berievites thwarted all the terms, so the 2013 contract had to be terminated in court. Second approach to the projectile proved to be more successful.

[Ryaruav]

from the comments, I realized that the overcoat was Russian epaulette French belt American, production per hour by a teaspoon, good achievements, especially against the backdrop of the return to operation of the be-12, this machine was even new ...

[Petro_tut]

Berievites were born? This is really good

[Alexey RA]

In 2018, the contract was renewed by ordering only three Be-200ES.

BMPD wrote that the 2018 contract was for the supply of one aircraft in the Be-200ES version and two in the Be-200PS version.

[businessv]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Again, neither the Ufa plant itself nor Rostec mention these engines in the product range.

So it is easier for them to report on a new development, and they will give more money! Although I think that they have all the working drawings in stock.

[family tree]

That's it!
"So that the people do not talk badly about the king in vain, Act strictly according to the law, I mean, act ... on the sly."