Deputy of the Rada: After the strike of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Donbass, Ukraine may lose Kiev

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After the APU hit the Donbass, Ukraine may lose Kiev. After all, armed provocations against Donetsk and Lugansk can lead to a full-scale Russian-Ukrainian war.

This assumption was made on the air of the Ukrainian TV channel NewsOne by Oleg Voloshin, a deputy of the Verkhovna Rada from the Opposition Platform - For Life (Opposition Platform - For Life) faction.



He believes that the offensive operation of the Ukrainian Armed Forces against Donetsk and Lugansk is capable of escalating into an armed clash with the regular Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

Voloshin suggested that in response to Kiev's aggression against Donbass, Moscow is capable of landing troops on the Black Sea coast near Odessa and even launching an offensive against Kiev. And since the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have a powerful grouping near the Ukrainian borders, the scenario described by the deputy may begin to be realized as early as late summer or early autumn.

And in this case, Voloshin believes, there is no doubt about the outcome of the campaign: Russia will inflict a quick and decisive defeat on the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it has enough resources for that.

On the other hand, according to the deputy, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy should not stir up panic about the likely “Russian aggression.

Put on old worn-out boots of Turchinov and tell that tomorrow the Russians Tanks will enter Kiev - this, of course, is hardly a serious approach for the President of Ukraine.

- Voloshin thinks.

Earlier, Moscow has repeatedly stated that the only way to peacefully resolve the conflict in Donbass is to consistently implement the Minsk agreements.
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  1. +6
    17 June 2021 12: 12
    After the Ukrainian Armed Forces strike on Donbass, Ukraine may lose Kiev
    He realizes that his wife can be seen whacking with a frying pan when he buried bacon in the wrong place at night laughing
    1. +6
      17 June 2021 12: 52
      Who passed? Who turned in my brilliant plan ??? I’m only here for you in secret !!!
      1. +3
        17 June 2021 12: 58
        A secret that two know is no longer a secret. wink
        1. +1
          17 June 2021 13: 07
          After the Ukrainian Armed Forces strike on Donbass, Ukraine may lose Kiev
          Ukraine Kiev will not lose, it will lose you, although this can hardly be called a loss.
          1. +3
            17 June 2021 13: 29
            Quote: NIKNN
            After the Ukrainian Armed Forces strike on Donbass, Ukraine may lose Kiev
            Ukraine Kiev will not lose, it will lose you, although this can hardly be called a loss.

            Ukraine will lose Ukraine.
            Slowly, but it comes.
            1. -2
              17 June 2021 17: 21
              Voloshin is an oppositionist from the OPSZ. And he says correctly: if the current pro-American-Bandera government orders the Armed Forces of Ukraine to attack the Donbass, it will wonderful answer and the stop will not be in Kiev, but - at best - at Zbruch. And even on the Ukrainian-Polish border! laughing
              1. 0
                19 June 2021 11: 13
                Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                And even on the Ukrainian-Polish border!

                What for? Why do we need zapadentsy? For another 15-20 years to drive Bandera through the forests? Under Stalin, having the opportunity to shoot and broadcast in the squares, they did not manage for 10 years ...
                1. -2
                  19 June 2021 11: 24
                  Quote: your1970
                  What for? Why do we need

                  Take it easy and don't worry! You don't have to drive anyone because you no one is going to nowhere take! Everyone is well aware that nothing good will come of khataskrains (both Ukrainian and Russian)! You are patriots of Great Russia - like a bullet! smile
                  1. -1
                    19 June 2021 15: 27
                    Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                    You are patriots of Great Russia - like a bullet!

                    Yes you sho ???? !!!! And in your opinion patriotism consists in getting nothing and in no way compensated problems ??
                    What will the occupation of Western Ukraine give us ?? "Forest Brothers" ?? Quiet saboteurs ?? Problems with the fact that we will have to somehow feed the relatively loyal ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
                    Do not understand???
                    When pumping money to Crimea, there are heaps of locals mumbling unhappily ...
                    We will not be able to fill ALL of Ukraine with money.
                    And another option - forcing them to work - will require a military occupation and the need for executions (and this is not a joke!).
                    Ukraine is too numerous and large in territory for such things ...
                    That is why it is possible to gouge the Armed Forces of Ukraine - it is impossible to annex Ukraine to itself.

                    Z. Y. Just don't talk about the "brothers" - they are already 50, all who are younger - the USSR has not been found
                    1. -1
                      19 June 2021 16: 11
                      Quote: your1970
                      Z. Y. Just don't talk about the "brothers" - they are already 50, all who are younger - the USSR has not been found

                      Smart people talk about Greater Russia, you, blinkered khataskrayniki, about your redneck corner and five kopecks, squeezed in a sweaty fist. No, it's still great that the Russian government lays down on you, khataskrayniks ... hardware with large carvings and slowly (it's a pity that slowly) returns to Russia its territory, strength and greatness. You can cry in your burrow that you are not being listened to. lol
                      1. 0
                        19 June 2021 22: 23
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        Smart people talk about Greater Russia
                        - you will see an example - these types of smart people ...

                        once again, slowly, for you personally - there are about 20 million people who NOT they love Russia, they don't like it at all ...
                      2. -1
                        20 June 2021 12: 23
                        Quote: your1970
                        once again, slowly, for you personally - there are about 20 million people who DO NOT love Russia, do not love at all ...

                        You talk ridiculously, illiterate "stratech" teacher! And who loves Russia in general? Including - from the limitrophes? Example bring! By the way, and NOT 20 million, but it's good if 10 is scraped off.

                        А reborn Russia should return and returns on the sly their land with a grateful population. No matter how different enemies, opponents and their Russian accomplices-brakes tried to interfere and lie! Thank God that God did not give horns to the butting cow! You can cry in your burrow: they are not listening to you again!

                        For you personally, very, very slowgiven your ability to perceive simple truths.
                      3. 0
                        20 June 2021 13: 01
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        By the way, and NOT 20 million, but it's good if 10 is scraped off.

                        I hesitate to ask, why did you write off 26 million of the population in Ukraine, leaving 10? Erased with an eraser?

                        There is no grateful population there and there will never be any more - those who lived under the USSR are already over 50, everything that is younger is already in their minds "Glory to Ukraine!" ...
                        They will not be grateful to us, in principle they will not be .. In 1988, they clung to their teeth on an urgent basis - they say "Ridna Nenka feeds the damned ..."

                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        And who loves Russia in general?

                        Are you ready to add 36 million non-Russian fans to the Russian Federation?
                        Then
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        Thank God that God did not give horns to the butting cow!
                        - it's not for you to make a decision about this ..
                      4. 0
                        20 June 2021 14: 17
                        Quote: your1970
                        There is no grateful population there and there will never be any more - those who lived under the USSR are already over 50, everything that is younger is already in their minds "Glory to Ukraine!" ...
                        They will not be grateful to us, in principle they will not be .. In 1988, they clung to their teeth on an urgent basis - they say "Ridna Nenka feeds the damned ..."

                        Whence Do you have such an accurate infa? Where do you yourself reside that is so accurate all do you know? A case outside of Israel? Rather - in Ukraine ... And why are you trying so hard to tear two parts one people, torn apart by chance? Do-roch-ka Nastya Dmitruk, who said "We will never be brothers!" are you a brother-sister?

                        - it's not for you to make a decision about this ..
                        But on this I completely agree with you: it is not for me and you to make the decisions on the revival of Russia and the annexation of Ukraine. And thank God that no matter how hysterical you were, you howled and came out with anger, in no way Can't stop it! Cry, it might feel better. smile
                      5. 0
                        20 June 2021 15: 18
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        Where did you get such accurate infa?

                        And you don't have it ??? !!!
                        You apparently do not notice - that in Ukraine WHY do not raise the Right Sector on a pitchfork, do not kill for the words "Glory to Ukraine", do not cut the Armed Forces of Ukraine at night, do not burn the deputies of the Verkhovna Rada, do not blow up the warehouses of the Armed Forces ...
                        Everyone there is quite happy with everything ...
                        On average, each wave of mobilization gave 60% of the conscripts - 40 scattered from the call, but 60 went to war with their fellow countrymen ...

                        That's when they start to hang them there for the zhovtoblakit flag, then it will be possible to think for joining ...
                        And before we will be - "Damned invaders who came to rob Ridna nenka !!!"
                      6. -1
                        20 June 2021 17: 11
                        Quote: your1970
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        Where did you get such accurate infa?

                        And you don't have it ??? !!!
                        You apparently do not notice - that in Ukraine WHY do not raise the Right Sector on a pitchfork, do not kill for the words "Glory to Ukraine", do not cut the Armed Forces of Ukraine at night, do not burn the deputies of the Verkhovna Rada, do not blow up the warehouses of the Armed Forces ...
                        Everyone there is quite happy with everything ...
                        On average, each wave of mobilization gave 60% of the conscripts - 40 scattered from the call, but 60 went to war with their fellow countrymen ...

                        That's when they start to hang them there for the zhovtoblakit flag, then it will be possible to think for joining ...
                        And before we will be - "Damned invaders who came to rob Ridna nenka !!!"

                        Yes, gloriously and awkwardly you shy away from answering uncomfortable for you questions that betray a great fan of provoking and pushing people against their heads. And you juggle and juggle facts with numbers ... laughing Where did you come from and where did you get the "exact" infa about Ukraine? Will you answer all the same, or are you making a mistake again? laughing

                        Why didn't everyone rush to the tanks with the Americans and NATO men standing behind them and blow up everything? There was no sense in dying uselessly, and there is not. Now, if liberation begins, meaning will appear. And there is a movement of civil resistance all the time, ATOs are VERY disliked and often expressed to them and they are VERY nervous, ATOs regularly "kill themselves", the population of Ukraine massively and contrary to the demands of the authorities, it celebrates Victory Day, and on May 8, thin pro-government-Bandera groups celebrate the "day of reconciliation." Although from your couch, of course, NOTHING can be seen and it is easier to urge people to recklessly throw themselves at the tanks. laughing

                        That's when they start to hang them there for the zhovtoblakit flag, then it will be possible to think for joining ...
                        And before we will be - "Damned invaders who came to rob Ridna nenka !!!"


                        For you "dull" and stupidly stubborn FIFTH TIME I answer: thank God that NOT YOU you decide the question of Ukraine! And Ukraine, together with Russia - be!
                      7. +1
                        20 June 2021 19: 21
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        And Ukraine together with Russia - to be!

                        You again did not notice - I am FOR !!! But only after -
                        Quote: your1970
                        they lift the Right Sector on a pitchfork, kill for the words "Glory to Ukraine", cut the Armed Forces at night, burn the deputies of the Verkhovna Rada, blow up the warehouses of the Armed Forces ...

                        When SAMI cleanse of all evil spirits - then YES !!!
                        And before that, NO! Otherwise, WE will be enemies and occupiers ...

                        Here and now in the middle of the Russian Federation, in the Volga region there are two Ukrainians living in the hostel - they say in all seriousness - that we invaded them and rob their Ukraine !!! They were beaten twice, no one wants to work with them, but the boss, in spite of everything, cannot fire them - they are rare specialists, alas ...

                        Z. Y.
                        The only one they scold is Yatsenyuk. Turchinov and Poroshenko are praised, but they say that they had to be tougher with the LPNR. ...
                        Apparently they are our brothers, huh ?? Relatives???
                        "What for such a family - I'd rather be an orphan" (c) I don't remember whose

                        Z. Y. Z. S
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        ATOs are VERY disliked and often express
                        - Oh yeah!! It's scary, yeah ... Probably ...
                        The Nazis in Scandinavia, apparently, were also afraid of staples in the lapels of their coats (in protest against the occupation!).
                        That's when they will kill for participation in the ATO - that's when Ukraine is ripe for joining
                      8. -1
                        20 June 2021 20: 39
                        Quote: your1970
                        That's when they will kill for participation in the ATO - that's when Ukraine is ripe for joining

                        Everything. Further conversation is useless. You belong to the category of those stubborn stubborn people about whom Vasily Makarovich remarkably said: "... And whoever does not want to understand, at least a stake on his head: you cannot bring your faith, you cannot put your thoughts." You judge by two idiots about all the people of Ukraine. And you think it's right! fool

                        And the questions were not answered ...
                      9. +1
                        20 June 2021 22: 21
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        You judge by two idiots about all the people of Ukraine.

                        A total of more than 200 refugees were brought to us from the LPNR. They were all piously convinced that we SHOULD!!! And this in spite of what was done for them was everything imaginable and inconceivable. ..

                        Further - you are right - the conversation is meaningless ...
                        I will stay with my-
                        Exactly until the moment when the news starts to say "Today in Ukraine the crowd beat Pravosek to death again", "Today Poroshenko and Turchinov were shot by a court decision" and so on
                        Then it will make sense to unite, not earlier ...
                        They themselves must free themselves from the Nazis. When the boil is ripe ...
        2. 0
          17 June 2021 13: 16
          Yes, what two know, the pig also knows ... A very suitable proverb, but the pig seems to hint ...
        3. +1
          17 June 2021 13: 18
          Quote: sabakina
          A secret that two know is no longer a secret. wink

          "Was wissen Zwei, wisst Schwein"
          "The pig will tell the hog, and the hog will tell the whole city"
          What is typical, in both Russian and German versions, the chatterbox is likened to a pig request
      2. 0
        17 June 2021 15: 07
        This is strategic misinformation. The offensive will start from Lvov and Vinitsa in small groups of 200-300 thousand Buryats, they will move to combat positions in camouflage capes, tanks will be launched only before the attack, local deer will be used to deliver them to the positions.
    2. +1
      17 June 2021 13: 06
      "After the Ukrainian Armed Forces strike on Donbass, Ukraine may lose Kiev"

      The phrase "can lose" in this phrase is inappropriate.
      It should be written:
      "After the strike of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Donbass, Ukraine will lose Kiev"
      1. +7
        17 June 2021 13: 14
        It should be written:
        "After the Ukrainian Armed Forces strike on Donbass, Ukraine will lose Kiev"

        And so wrong. Should be - Kiev will released... From the Nazis who occupied it.
        1. 0
          18 June 2021 10: 06
          Your clarification most accurately expresses the essence of the problem. good
      2. 0
        17 June 2021 17: 16
        Quote: prior
        "After the Ukrainian Armed Forces strike on Donbass, Ukraine may lose Kiev"

        The phrase "can lose" in this phrase is inappropriate.
        It should be written:
        "After the strike of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Donbass, Ukraine will lose Kiev"

        Is not a fact. Georgia did not lose Tbilisi.
    3. +1
      17 June 2021 13: 18
      Why is it so cruel - there are deputies with brains and sane ...
    4. -1
      17 June 2021 13: 18
      Somehow, these considerations of Voloshin are not calibrated with Zelensky's statement about the creation of the most powerful army in Europe in Ukraine, despite the fact that even when Poroshenko was president of Ukraine, the latter argued that the most powerful army had long been created in Ukraine.
    5. -2
      17 June 2021 18: 14
      Quote: Torins
      After the Ukrainian Armed Forces strike on Donbass, Ukraine may lose Kiev
      He realizes that his wife can be seen whacking with a frying pan when he buried bacon in the wrong place at night laughing

      Yes, he just has money from Russian exports. that's raving.
  2. +1
    17 June 2021 12: 15
    [quoAfter the strike of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Donbass, Ukraine may lose Kievte] [/ quote]
    And cease to exist as a state.
    1. +1
      17 June 2021 12: 36
      [quote = Rudauto] [quoAfter the Ukrainian Armed Forces strike on Donbass, Ukraine may lose Kievte] [/ quote]
      And cease to exist as a state [/ quote]
      I took it off my tongue. Ukraine may lose ... Ukraine! Some grow wiser there just before our eyes. laughing
    2. 0
      17 June 2021 13: 07
      Zelensky agent of Putin. Introduced with the task to unleash a war with Russia and quickly surrender)
  3. -2
    17 June 2021 12: 16
    Unclear
    Was he going to strike? Why did he tell all this?
    1. +7
      17 June 2021 12: 21
      This is his answer to our President Zelensky, who said yesterday that Ukraine will solve the problem of Donbass on its own with the help of a strong army.
      1. 0
        17 June 2021 13: 29
        are you talking about this?
        And if Ukraine independently solves this global problem, we will have no other way than to turn into a very strong, most powerful army in Europe in terms of equipment and troops. And for this we will simply spend everything that we have: a lot of human potential, a lot of talented people. Instead of becoming scientists, developing their country technologically, people will think about how to protect their families and homes. There is nothing good in war.
        1. +1
          17 June 2021 14: 46
          That's about it.
          And for this we will simply spend everything that we have: a lot of human potential, a lot of talented people.
          this phrase makes you nervous. I sincerely hope that he said pretentious, but at the same time terrible, things solely for show.
    2. +1
      17 June 2021 12: 24
      Observing all the movements of the APU, there can be no other conclusions.
    3. +3
      17 June 2021 12: 38
      Quote: Avior
      Unclear
      Was he going to strike? Why did he tell all this?

      What's not clear? The fact that the militant, "overridden" rhetoric of the use of force in the Donbass, despite the urges of the instinct of self-preservation, does not cease on the Ukrainian side?

      It is not clear that as you do not hear it (rhetoric) ...
  4. +5
    17 June 2021 12: 23
    After the Ukrainian Armed Forces strike on Donbass, Ukraine may lose Kiev
    The conclusion is correct, but not intelligible for Svidomo. Until they really really get a swing, they won't understand.
    President Volodymyr Zelenskiy should not stir up panic over likely 'Russian aggression
    But how bravo he looks in a helmet and body armor at "150 m from the enemy's positions" (???) in front of American journalists. One feast for the uninformed viewer.
    1. +1
      17 June 2021 13: 33
      I would say that you missed the letter "k" after "150" and before "m" :)
  5. +3
    17 June 2021 12: 31
    But who needs that ukroina. It is only the war that benefits her.
  6. +5
    17 June 2021 12: 34
    Voice in the wilderness.
  7. +7
    17 June 2021 12: 35
    Putting on Turchinov's old worn boots and talking about the fact that tomorrow Russian tanks will enter Kiev is, of course, hardly a serious approach for the President of Ukraine.

    What can I say? Sensible politicians have a correct idea. What can not be said about the authorities in Kiev, headed by a clown.
  8. -3
    17 June 2021 12: 46
    I've always suspected that the tudapeds have some kind of sick cockroaches in the muddle playing football. What has to do with it, on the one and the other hand, well, this team, for which the main thing is not a goal, but more money
  9. -1
    17 June 2021 12: 53
    This Voloshin is similar to Khazanov. Shariy has several videos where he shows Voloshin as a typical weathervane politician. His revelations directly depend on the orientation of the political force to which he is temporarily attached.
  10. +3
    17 June 2021 12: 54
    Sometimes there is so much news about each PUK from Ukraine that it starts to seem like we’re not living in it
    1. +4
      17 June 2021 13: 19
      But we, the citizens of Ukraine, are more comfortable. Here you are on the IN and weapons, and military history and news about your country, everything is convenient and compact.
  11. +8
    17 June 2021 13: 02
    capable of leading to a full-scale Russian-Ukrainian war.

    Yes, what kind of war, and even full-scale. Do not flatter yourself and do not fill yourself up.
    It will simply be a counter-terrorist operation with the cleansing of Kiev and Lvov.
    1. 0
      17 June 2021 14: 15
      Correct: Kiev From Lvov hi
  12. +4
    17 June 2021 13: 04
    And I want to, and pricks ... For 7 years Ukraine has been nurturing militant plans for the Donbass and Crimea, but "the point is not iron." Therefore, they complain to the left and to the right, crying for help. It has already been concretized with NATO for June, which organized exercises in the Black Sea and at the western border of Russia.
    But seeing how quickly and powerfully Russia reacted, NATO members got scared and only whined about a new "Russian aggression" that Russia had organized a fast and powerful fist near the border with Ukraine. And NATO, gritting its teeth, postponed "Kiev's campaign" to the Donbass and Crimea. After that, a new date sounded from Kiev, September - the time of the elections in Russia. Kiev was looking forward to the summit, but the Ukrainian ball did not hit the pocket. Biden agreed with Putin that there is no alternative to the Minsk agreements. So, the "Minsk agreements" and "SP-2" are two weights on the neck of Ukraine rowing through the swamp.
  13. -5
    17 June 2021 13: 05
    mspavpass yixneleZ
    1. 0
      19 June 2021 17: 17
      Yes) I agree with you wassat
  14. +1
    17 June 2021 13: 08
    Not ... it would be right: "after the strike on the Donbass, Kiev may lose Ukraine!"
    1. +1
      17 June 2021 13: 23
      At a meeting in Geneva, the Supreme Commander, when asked by journalists, clearly answered that the topic of Ukraine was discussed
      "smear", i.e. The Minsk agreements on tinsel for seamen, and Bidonych nodded in the affirmative.
      1. +2
        17 June 2021 13: 46
        Judging by the press conference, Putin said how it would be. And the Bidon cried and called mom laughing
  15. +1
    17 June 2021 13: 15
    They already lost everything in 2014 to Ukraine, nothing belongs there.
  16. +3
    17 June 2021 13: 19
    This is not the question of the war itself, but the question of maintaining power! Everyone does not care about Donbass and other problems, you need to keep the country at bay and this is the only way to sit in your chair.
  17. -3
    17 June 2021 13: 31
    Found someone to quote laughing
    From the cohort "today yours, tomorrow ours"
  18. +1
    17 June 2021 13: 53
    Deputy of the Rada: After the strike of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Donbass, Ukraine may lose Kiev
    And if Lviv laughing
    Lviv residents with portraits of Lenin in 1944
    1. wow
      +1
      18 June 2021 15: 37
      Yes, "these" will praise anyone who has a caramultuk in their hands.
      1. 0
        18 June 2021 17: 01
        The mentality is such, between the West and the East, one then another, who today has more pennies and a more powerful fist. laughing
  19. +1
    17 June 2021 14: 02
    Zelenskiy threatens to create the most powerful army in Europe.
    Volunteers are recruiting ...
  20. 0
    17 June 2021 14: 30

    well, here is their army in mriyah ...,
  21. +1
    17 June 2021 15: 44
    Bravo ... Is seven years really enough for the epiphany of at least one Svidomo jumper ..
    1. +1
      17 June 2021 19: 43
      Well, for so many years they yelled that they were being raped and then they realized that they would really be raped.
  22. 0
    18 June 2021 10: 08
    Interestingly, all these "aggravated" squeals together about the end of summer and the beginning of autumn. And skakuas and mattresses and others. Suggests that they are preparing a major provocation at this time.
  23. wow
    0
    18 June 2021 15: 34
    A rare word of reason flies from the shores of the shallow Dnieper. It's too late, really ...
  24. 0
    19 June 2021 16: 04
    Ukraine needs to solve something with a misunderstanding. The West no longer needs them, they have not justified the hopes placed. For us they are a burden. And with the launch of the SP-2, they will become generally uninteresting in principle.