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Alcoholic traditions in the USSR

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Alcoholic traditions in the USSR
Shot from the film "The Diamond Arm"


In this article we will continue our story about the alcoholic traditions of our country and talk about the problems associated with the use of alcoholic beverages in the USSR.

It all started with complete anarchy. Weak and incompetent politicians who came to power after the February Revolution quickly lost control not only over the outskirts of the vast country, but also over the population of Petrograd and the surrounding regions. It was very difficult to put things in order in such a situation, and therefore the unwillingness of part of the leadership of the Bolshevik Party to take power into their own hands is understandable.

One of the first high-profile actions of the new government was the operation to destroy the richest collection of alcoholic beverages stored in the cellars of the Winter Palace, carried out in November 1917. Hundreds of barrels of vintage wines, thousands of bottles of champagne and many large tanks filled with alcohol literally fell on the Bolsheviks' heads. Rumors about these riches spread throughout the capital, and now crowds of marginalized people regularly organized "raids" on the Winter Palace. The soldiers' guards themselves took an active part in the "tasting". One of the Petrograd newspapers described one of these raids as follows:

“The destruction of the wine cellar of the Winter Palace, which began on the night of November 24, continued all day ... The newly arrived guards also got drunk. By evening, there were many bodies around the cellar without senses. Shooting went on all night. They shot mostly in the air, but there were many casualties. "

Finally, a detachment of Kronstadt sailors was ordered to destroy the stocks of alcohol. The bottoms of the barrels were knocked out, the bottles smashed on the floor. L. Trotsky recalled in his book "My Life":

“Wine flowed down the ditches into the Neva, soaking the snow. The drinkers lapped straight from the ditches. "

Other eyewitnesses reported that after an hour of such work, the "stupefied" from the fumes had to literally crawl out to catch their breath. The townsfolk greeted them with indignant shouts: “They drink themselves, but they won't give us!»

On December 19, 1917, the Council of People's Commissars adopted a resolution to extend the "Prohibition". The manufacture and sale of alcoholic beverages was punishable by imprisonment for 5 years with confiscation of property. For drinking alcoholic beverages in a public place, they could be imprisoned for a year.

But the Provisional Siberian Government on July 10, 1918 partially abolished the "dry law" in the territory under its control. Alcoholic drinks here began to be sold on ration cards, and buyers had to bring empty bottles in exchange for corked ones. And on the vast territory from Perm to Vladivostok then queues for vodka appeared, which were popularly called "wine tails". The speculation in vodka also began, which has now received the status of "hard currency". The price for it from the hands sometimes increased several times.

Factory vodka was also in demand in the villages, whose residents, in fact, drove moonshine en masse (it cost 6 times cheaper). But "state goods" began to be considered status and prestigious. During the celebrations, they tried to put at least one or two vodka bottles on the table along with a bucket or can of moonshine, which were called "scoundrels".

Alcohol consumption in the USSR in the pre-war years


In January 1920, the Council of People's Commissars decided to allow the sale of wine with a strength of up to 12 degrees. Then the allowed wine strength was increased to 14, and then to 20 degrees. On February 3, 1922, it was allowed to sell beer. But they continued to struggle with the consumption of spirits. The most stringent measures were taken against moonshiners: in the first half of 1923, 75 moonshine stills were confiscated, and 296 criminal cases were initiated. However, this did not solve the problem. In the same 295, S. Yesenin wrote:

“Ah, today it’s so much fun for the Russians,
Moonshine alcohol river.
Accordion player with a sunken nose
Cheka is also singing to them about the Volga ... "

In 1923, at the June plenum of the Central Committee, on the initiative of Stalin, the question of abolishing the "dry law" and introducing a state monopoly on the sale of vodka was raised. The enemy of the secretary general here was also Trotsky, who called the legalization of vodka “one of the most unworthy moments in stories party».

Stalin's proposal was nevertheless accepted, and from January 1, 1924, vodka was again sold in the country, the strength of which was reduced to 30 degrees. The people called it "rykovka". A half-liter bottle worth 1 ruble received the proud name “party member”, bottles with a capacity of 0,25 and 0,1 liters were called “Komsomol member” and “pioneer”, respectively.

But the fight against drunkenness was not stopped, and it was carried out very seriously - at the state level. In 1927, the first narcological hospitals were opened. Since 1928, the journal "Sobriety and Culture" began to be published.

Sobering-up system


In 1931, the first sobering-up station was opened in Leningrad. Subsequently, sobering-up centers in the USSR were opened at the rate of one institution for 150-200 thousand inhabitants. The only exception was Armenia, where there was not a single sobering-up station.

Initially, these institutions belonged to the system of the People's Commissariat of Health, but on March 4, 1940, they were transferred to the subordination of the People's Commissariat of Internal Affairs. Remember Vysotsky's famous song?

“It is not a rooster who will wake up in the morning by crowing, -
The sergeant will rise, that is, as people! "

And this is a shot from the movie "And in the morning they woke up", which takes place in a sobering-up center:


It was filmed in 2003 based on the story of the same name and three stories by V. Shukshin.

Continuation of the story about sobering-up centers - in the next article. In the meantime, let's go back - in the 30s of the twentieth century.

In 1935, the first medical and labor dispensary (and a female one) was opened in Moscow, but the system of these institutions received further development only in 1967. The requirement to combat drunkenness was included in the charter of the Komsomol adopted by the X Congress (1936). Great importance was attached to anti-alcohol propaganda. Even V. Mayakovsky did not hesitate to write captions to such propaganda posters:




This is no longer a poster, but a Soviet popular print, artist - Pukhovskaya I.O., author of poetry - V. Mayakovsky

But in the late 1930s, anti-alcohol rhetoric was somewhat softened. Mikoyan's words that before the revolution people

“They drank precisely in order to get drunk and forget their unhappy life ... Now life has become more fun. You can't get drunk out of a good life. It became more fun to live, which means you can have a drink. " (1936)

And since 1937, the famous "Soviet Champagne" began to be produced in the USSR, the use of which the same Mikoyan called "a sign of material well-being».

"People's Commissariat one hundred grams"



During the Great Patriotic War, it was decided to give the front-line soldiers a portion of vodka or fortified wine (on the Transcaucasian front). This was supposed to help the soldiers deal with constant stress and increase their morale. From May 15, 1942, soldiers of units that had success in hostilities received 200 grams of vodka each, the rest - 100 grams and only on holidays. From November 12, 1942, the norms decreased: soldiers of units conducting direct hostilities or reconnaissance, artillerymen providing fire support for the infantry, crews of combat aircraft on completing a combat mission received 100 grams of vodka. All others are only 50 grams.

It should be said that this method of reward was not original. The same Napoleon wrote:

"Wine and vodka are gunpowder that the soldiers throw at the enemy."

But the daily, for many months and even years, the use of vodka by millions of people, of course, had an impact on the growth of alcoholism in the USSR.

Nevertheless, in the early post-war years, it was not accepted to get drunk, especially in public places. The testimony of V. Tikhonenko, a well-known Leningrad blacksmith, who recalled that time, is curious:

“Everyone played the role of decent people ... The bandits did not go to the restaurant, decent people went to the restaurant ... I don’t remember the ladies who behaved vulgarly in the restaurant, and in general people did not behave vulgarly. This is a good feature of the Stalinist era - people behaved with restraint. "

Alcohol consumption in the USSR in the post-war years


After Stalin's death, the situation began to change for the worse. Khrushchev himself loved to drink, and did not consider alcohol abuse as a great sin. It is curious that Malenkov and Molotov, who opposed Khrushchev in 1957, accused him, among other things, of addiction to alcohol and swearing during public speeches (which speaks well of the mental abilities and cultural level of this leader of the Soviet state). It was during Khrushchev's time that the well-known Marxist postulate “Being determines consciousness”: “Drinking determines consciousness” was derisively altered in near-intellectual circles.

By the way, look what products Russian collective farmers could put on the wedding table at that time (photo 1956):


And this is the Kremlin table at the banquet dedicated to the return of German Titov to earth, on August 9, 1961:


P. Weil and A. Genis called one of the characteristic features of the so-called "Thaw"

"General friendly drinking and the art of drunken dialogue."

Quite quickly, domestic drunkenness acquired such a scale that in 1958 a government decree was issued on strengthening the fight against drunkenness and putting things in order in the alcohol trade. In particular, it was prohibited to trade in bottled alcohol. It was then that the Soviet tradition of "thinking for three" arose: the "suffering" often did not have enough money for a whole bottle, they had to pool their "capital". There were even special gestures with which loners looking for a company invited potential drinking companions. For example, looking inquiringly at a person approaching the store, they brought a bent finger to their throat. Or they hid their thumb and forefinger over the side of a coat or jacket. This conventional gesture can be seen in Leonid Gaidai's comedy "Prisoner of the Caucasus". With his help, Shurik establishes a connection with two patients of the narcological clinic - the doctor clearly says in the frame: “Alcoholics - our profile":


Shurik, with a conventional sign, invites patients of the narcological clinic to "figure it out for three"

The intelligentsia had their own reasons for "suffering." According to the recollections of the "sixties", many admirers of Hemingway then dreamed of the opportunity to go to the bar and order a glass of cognac, a glass of Calvados or something like that. Their dream came true already in 1963, when the bottling of alcohol was again allowed due to losses incurred by the budget. The data of a sociological survey in 1963 showed that at that time 1,8% of income was spent on cultural needs in Leningrad families, and 4,2% on alcohol.

Leonid Brezhnev, who replaced Khrushchev, did not abuse alcohol: he usually drank no more than 75 grams of vodka or brandy (then, under the guise of alcoholic beverages, he was served strained strong tea or mineral water). But the secretary general was also condescending to the "drinkers". At the official Kremlin banquets, funny situations sometimes happened when the invited leaders of production and shock workers of agricultural labor, seeing free and good alcohol on the tables, did not count their strength - they drank too much. They were put to “rest” in a specially arranged “dark room” and then no sanctions were applied.


Reception at the Kremlin Palace of Congresses, November 7, 1970

Campaign work continued. In the illustrations below, you can see a Soviet anti-alcohol poster and cartoon:




The so-called "comrades' courts" were actively working, most of the cases of which were just analyzes of all kinds of household "immorality", often associated with excessive alcohol consumption (but cases of violations of labor discipline, production of defective products, petty theft, and so on were also considered).


A comradely court in a vocational school, 1963:


A meeting of a friendly court at the Gorky Automobile Plant. Photo by R. Alfimov, 1973:


And in this photo we see a meeting of a comrades' court in Uzbekistan:


However, such courts often punished not only the offender, but also his family, as stated in the famous song of V. Vysotsky:

“The premium is covered in the quarter!
Who wrote me a complaint service?
Not you?! When I read them! "

But even more terrible were the analyzes of "antisocial behavior" at party meetings - they were really afraid of "working through" them, and this was a serious deterrent.

It was under Brezhnev - in 1967, that the level of alcohol consumption per capita in the USSR reached the level of 1913. In the future, consumption only grew. If back in 1960 in the USSR they drank 3,9 liters per person per year, then in 1970 it was already 6,7 liters. But these were still flowers, we saw berries in the "dashing 90s": about 15 liters per person in 1995 and 18 liters in 1998.

But let's not get ahead.

On April 8, 1967, a decree was issued “On compulsory treatment and labor re-education of hard-core drunkards (alcoholics)”. This is how a system of medical and labor dispensaries appeared, to which alcoholics were sent by court order for a period of 6 months to two years. In Russia, this decree was annulled by Yeltsin (terminated on July 1, 1994). But it seems to be still operating on the territory of Belarus, Turkmenistan and the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic.

And in 1975, an independent narcological service was created in the USSR. At the same time, in comparison with modern times, vodka in the Soviet Union was quite an expensive product. The cheapest "half liter" was sold for 2 rubles 87 kopecks. It was "Moscow special" vodka, made according to the pre-revolutionary recipe of 1894. After 1981, its cost was almost equal to that of other varieties of vodka. Another cheap vodka, which for some reason was popularly called "Crankshaft", cost 3 rubles 62 kopecks. She disappeared from the market after 1981. "Russkaya", "Stolichnaya", "Extra" until 1981 cost 4 rubles 12 kopecks. The most expensive was "Pshenichnaya" - 5 rubles 25 kopecks. "Sibirskaya" was a vodka of the middle price category (4 rubles 42 k.), Its peculiarity was a strength of 45 degrees. After 1981, a bottle of the cheapest vodka cost 5 rubles 30 kopecks.

Vodka tour: "master class" from the finns


The first Finnish tourists arrived in the USSR in 1958 by buses Helsinki - Leningrad - Moscow. In total, 5 thousand Finns have visited the USSR this year. They liked these trips very much, and the number of tourists from this country grew every year. They also began to arrive by train, by plane, and in the 70s-80s, the USSR was visited by up to half a million Finnish tourists a year. The most budgetary for them were trips to Vyborg.


Finnish bus in Leningrad, 60s. XX century, photo by L. S. Lipjainen

The guests from Finland could not boast of special wealth. In neighboring Sweden, for example, the Finns were then traditionally treated as “poor relatives from the village”. But in the USSR, they suddenly felt themselves rich. At the same time, a certain cultural dissonance was observed. The majestic and beautiful imperial cities of Leningrad and Moscow made a huge impression on the Finns. Even their capital, Helsinki, looked hopelessly provincial in comparison. But at the same time, in the USSR, the Finns could afford a lot, especially those who guessed to take several pairs of jeans and tights with them. Very soon they found out that alcohol in the Soviet Union costs (by their standards) mere pennies, and ladies of easy virtue who are ready to share their leisure time with them are cheap, but beautiful. And tourists from this country began to focus not on sightseeing of numerous sights, but on a reckless "breakaway" in Soviet cities, striking even local drunkards with their behavior. In Leningrad, the Finns were then called "four-legged friends."


The Finnish tourist, who did not calculate his strength, fell asleep in the Moscow metro, a relatively sober girlfriend settled on his legs. Photos by Ismo Bjorn

The daily routine of Finnish tourists was often as follows: in the morning they disembarked at one of the drinking establishments, and in the evening the bus drivers picked them up (often literally) at familiar addresses in the immediate vicinity. At first, they identified “theirs” by their shoes. And that is why one of the drivers once took the "peacefully resting" Russian drunkard, to whom the Finn who had been drinking with him presented his boots. Farmers and prostitutes circled around the drunken Finns, however, as a rule, they did not rob and rob them: the “profit” was already high enough, and criminal incidents with foreign tourists in the USSR were investigated very thoroughly. The crime went mainly to "stray prostitutes", whom "regular" hotel prostitutes themselves often handed over to the police. Moreover, many of them were forced, as they said at the time, "to work for an office."

After the Baltic countries joined the European Union, Finnish alcohol tourism in Vyborg and St. Petersburg has lost its relevance. Alcohol in Riga or Tallinn is still cheaper than in Finland, and you do not need to get a visa.

"Kindness of the Communist Andropov"


Yu. V. Andropov, who headed the USSR and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union after the death of Brezhnev, had to follow a strict diet since the 1970s, and practically did not drink alcohol. Nevertheless, despite the dubious reputation of a teetotaler in our country, the campaign for the struggle for labor discipline and the slogan about “inadmissibility of parasitizing on the humanism of the socialist system”, Andropov became, perhaps, the most popular leader of the post-war USSR. At this time, many people began to be annoyed by the drunkenness of others (neighbors, relatives, colleagues) and sloppiness at work. A public demand for changes in society was formed, which was then so ineptly used by M. Gorbachev. And Andropov's attempt to "restore order in the country" was received quite favorably. People over 50 years old probably remember how the drunken disappeared from the streets of cities, and how the police officers took away from the wine and vodka shops those customers who were supposed to be at the workplace at that time. Drunk, instead of showing their "prowess", hid from passers-by.

Under the new secretary general, a new variety of vodka appeared, which at that time became the cheapest - 4 rubles 70 kopecks. People called her "Andropovka". And the word “vodka” was deciphered by the witches as follows: “Here He is What Kind - Andropov” (another version - “Here She is the Kindness of the Communist Andropov”). A legend appeared, according to which the new secretary general ordered that for five rubles a person could buy not only a bottle of vodka, but at least processed cheese for a snack.


The label of the famous processed cheese "Druzhba"

The quick death of this Secretary General prevented him from realizing his plans. And we can only guess in which direction the USSR would have moved its methods of government. But on the other hand, we know that it was Andropov who began to promote the "mineral secretary" M. Gorbachev, and this mistake of his became fatal for our country.

Experiments by Professor Brechman


It was in the 80s that Professor I.I.Brekhman, one of the founders of the theory of adaptogens, conducted his experiments in the USSR. It was through his efforts that preparations based on ginseng and eleutherococcus appeared in Soviet pharmacies.

First, a 35-degree bitter tincture on the roots of Eleutherococcus prickly was released, named after the bay in Vladivostok - "Golden Horn". A half-liter bottle cost 6 rubles. Experiments on rats have shown impressive results - a decrease in mortality from poisoning, a decrease in the severity of hangover, and even a decrease in alcohol dependence. However, in humans, the results were much more modest, and they were reluctant to drink this tincture. The next experiment was much better prepared: it was decided to test the new alcoholic drink on residents of one of the districts of the Magadan region. At the same time, the old stocks of alcohol were removed from there in advance. Brechman and his collaborators anticipated the work of Western scholars on the study of the so-called "French paradox". Like the citizens of Mediterranean countries, the French consume a large amount of grape wine, but at the same time - a large amount of meat and fatty foods. Nevertheless, there are few drunkards and alcoholics among them, and the prevalence of cardiovascular diseases in France is lower than the European average. A similar situation was noted in Soviet Georgia. Brekhman and his colleagues made a completely logical and correct assumption that it is not the quantity, but the quality of the alcohol consumed, namely, the traditional grape wines widespread in this republic. It has now been proven that the main active ingredient in grape wines is polyphenols, which reduce the rate of alcohol oxidation, while accelerating the oxidation of acetaldehyde. In addition, they have an adaptogenic effect, increasing stamina during physical work and reducing sensitivity to high and low temperatures. Soviet researchers called the resulting extract of polyphenols "caprim" (from the regions of Kakheti and Primorye, where Brekhman began working with adaptogens). At the same time, it turned out that the maximum concentration of the required substance is determined in the waste of wine production - grape skins and "ridges" (bunches of grapes without berries). The production of a new vodka called "Golden Fleece" was promptly launched in Georgia. The raw materials for the production were pears (mainly volunteers), and the extract of grape "combs" was added to the alcohol solution.


"Strong drink" "Golden Fleece"

According to legend, the chairman of the State Planning Committee N. Baibakov and the future chairman of the Council of Ministers N. Ryzhkov helped to achieve industrial production of the Golden Fleece, who personally tested the new drink and were satisfied with the absence of unpleasant consequences the next morning. The taste of the new drink was unusual: to some it resembled "Pertsovka", but at the same time it tasted like coffee. In the Severo-Evensky district of the Magadan region, where the "Golden Fleece" was sold, for some reason it was called "wool". The new drink was brought there in the summer of 1984. The location was not chosen by chance. Firstly, this isolated area with a small population was ideal for observation, which was organized as part of a general medical examination. Secondly, alcohol has an extremely destructive effect on the Evenki organism, and the unpleasant consequences from its use are much more serious than those of Russians and other Europeans.

The preliminary results of the experiment were very interesting. It turned out that the Evenks who used the Golden Fleece were drunk according to the “Russian type”. The number of poisoning decreased, the hangover was easier. But this effect turned out to be dose-dependent, decreased in proportion to the amount drunk and, as a rule, disappeared after drinking more than one bottle.

There was also an increase in the number of deposits in savings banks and the amount of money in deposit accounts. However, the experiment, designed for 2 years, was terminated early (after 10 months). It is precisely because of its short duration that it is still impossible to draw unambiguous scientific conclusions. It is argued that an unfortunate coincidence of circumstances was the cause of the failure of the experiment. Professor of the Department of Social Hygiene and Health Organization of the II Pirogov MMI N. Ya. Kopyt, who agreed to take a briefcase with materials to the Kremlin, died in the car from myocardial infarction. As a result, the documents accidentally ended up in the possession of one of the ideologists of Gorbachev's "Prohibition" - Yegor Ligachev. He considered the experiment contrary to the party's policy of sobering up citizens.

The copies of the “Golden Fleece” drink that remained in the North Evenk region suddenly became very popular as Kolyma souvenirs, and, according to eyewitnesses, were sold “by pull”.

Around this time, by the way, another curious feature of the action of alcohol became clear. A study was conducted that showed that the human body categorically does not like anything chemically pure. And therefore, vitamins in tablets and trace elements in dietary supplements work much worse than the same compounds from natural products. And alcohol, ideally purified and diluted with water, in terms of its negative effect on the body, turned out to be much more harmful than alcohol produced according to old recipes - with some kind of natural impurities.

M. Gorbachev's anti-alcohol campaign


One of the landmark decisions of the new Secretary General was the appearance, on his initiative, of the famous Resolution of the Central Committee of the CPSU "On measures to overcome drunkenness and alcoholism" (May 7, 1985). The plan was sound enough, but its implementation turned out to be simply nightmarish. The contracts for the supply of cognac from Bulgaria and dry wine from Algeria were terminated (and significant penalties had to be paid). Distilleries sharply reduced the production of spirits (albeit, while increasing the production of scarce mayonnaise). Vineyards were cut down in the southern regions of the country. A shortage of alcoholic beverages was artificially created, which again, as at the beginning of the twentieth century, led to a sharp increase in home brewing. One of the consequences was the disappearance of sugar and yeast from stores. The use of various surrogates has also increased dramatically. Despite the increase in the price of vodka (a half-liter bottle of the cheapest in 1986 cost 9 rubles 10 kopecks), the budget of the USSR also suffered huge losses - up to 49 billion Soviet rubles.

As in the first period of the "Prohibition" of 1914, positive trends were noted: the number of divorces and injuries at work decreased, the number of petty domestic and street crimes decreased, and the birth rate increased. In 1987, alcohol consumption dropped to 4,9 liters per capita. But this effect was short-lived.


For the sake of fairness, it should be said that too obvious overlaps of the anti-alcohol campaign did not last very long. After Gorbachev's photograph with a Martini glass in his hands was leaked to the press in October 1985 during Gorbachev's visit to Paris, many Soviet officials took it as a hidden signal to curtail the anti-alcohol campaign. Moreover, Gorbachev himself, commenting on this photo, suddenly said in an interview that Martini is a grape wine with a unique bouquet and taste, which he recommends to all party comrades. But by this time in the USSR, an exuberant demand for alcohol had already formed, and the system of trade in alcoholic beverages was unbalanced. The whole country lined up in humiliating queues for vouchers for alcohol and shops selling vodka. As you can imagine, people didn’t feel better about Gorbachev after that.

In the next article we will talk about the state of affairs with alcohol consumption in Russia after the collapse of the USSR.
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  1. Alien From
    Alien From 20 June 2021 03: 40
    +5
    Drunkenness-fight! Iiiik!
    1. SERGE ANT
      SERGE ANT 20 June 2021 04: 07
      +26
      Drunkenness-fight!
      Yesterday I gave a fight to drunkenness! I don’t remember the details, but in the morning it felt like drunkenness won.
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 20 June 2021 04: 12
        +2
        Indeed, I am asleep)
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 20 June 2021 04: 45
          +9
          Good morning!
          Traditional thanks to Valeria for the early (or, on the contrary, late) article !!!
          Wine and vodka are the gunpowder that the soldiers throw at the enemy.

          This stamp is constantly being discussed in British literature. In the philistine environment of England, they say directly that the French praised the drunk. At the same time, completely forgetting how their own army and navy were staffed.
          1. SERGE ANT
            SERGE ANT 20 June 2021 05: 15
            +9
            Aha! I like the story about a coin and a mug of beer. They say that since then in England they have been raising the mug for a long time and looking at the bottom for a light - is there a coin, and all the mugs in pubs are only transparent.))
          2. mitroha
            mitroha 20 June 2021 07: 31
            +9
            This is probably the first topic that has already received 4 comments from 8 am to 40 am laughing .
            Well, for sobriety drinks
            1. Blacksmith 55
              Blacksmith 55 20 June 2021 08: 20
              +13
              Perestroika times.
              2 guys talk when handing over the bottles.
              We feel good, our folder is drinking, we hand over bottles and buy bread. But the neighbors have a teetotal father, so they have nothing to eat. :-))))
              Now seriously.
              We also had a comrades' court at the enterprise. The most formidable accuser was the party organizer of the enterprise, while he himself never dried up. It was a PARODY. They said this directly to his face, from him like water off a duck's back.
              Naturally, no one took such courts seriously, everyone saw who was a real drunkard.
            2. Torins
              Torins 20 June 2021 09: 27
              +3
              The topic is burning lol drinks
          3. Normal ok
            Normal ok 20 June 2021 21: 16
            +3
            Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Good morning!
            Traditional thanks to Valeria for the early (or, on the contrary, late) article !!!
            Wine and vodka are the gunpowder that the soldiers throw at the enemy.

            This stamp is constantly being discussed in British literature. In the philistine environment of England, they say directly that the French praised the drunk. At the same time, completely forgetting how their own army and navy were staffed.

            "I look at life through the bottom of the glass,
            vodka, evil!
            Or maybe not evil ?!
            It's hard in the village without a revolver,
            and with a revolver. -too hard "
            N. Rubtsov.
        2. NIKN
          NIKN 20 June 2021 18: 48
          +4
          The opponent of the secretary general here was also Trotsky, who called the legalization of vodka "one of the most unworthy moments in the history of the party."
          So that's why Trotsky is so cruel.
      2. Fat
        Fat 20 June 2021 06: 51
        +5
        Similarly hi
        A good article from Valery turned out to be a lot of new things I learned. Before that I thought that I knew everything about Soviet drinking. As it turns out, the team of design engineers of the AC group are inveterate teetotalers what
      3. Lionnvrsk
        Lionnvrsk 20 June 2021 07: 35
        +7
        Quote: SERGE ant
        I don’t remember the details, but in the morning it felt like drunkenness won.

        Most likely you just had stale vodka! lol
      4. napalm
        napalm 25 June 2021 11: 56
        +2
        I bought vodka. The check says "NEPOBEDIMIY" LLC.
    2. Mooh
      Mooh 20 June 2021 04: 39
      +4
      Drunkenness is a fight, and you yourself know something-girl.
    3. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 20 June 2021 04: 40
      +8
      The main thing is to place the signs correctly!
      1. SERGE ANT
        SERGE ANT 20 June 2021 04: 44
        +13
        Comrades, vodka is our enemy. But who said that we are afraid of enemies ?!
    4. Machito
      Machito 20 June 2021 04: 50
      +10
      Today I'll put the brew to ferment. drinks
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 20 June 2021 07: 05
        +11
        Quote: SERGE ANT
        Comrades, vodka is our enemy. But who said that we are afraid of enemies ?!

        Quote: Bearded
        Today I'll put the brew to ferment. drinks


        To be honest, there is no desire to enter into polemics. I rarely drink vodka, very rarely. The last time was two years ago. Cognac - probably seven or eight months. A glass of dry white wine - yesterday. I make a cherry tincture myself. 12 liters for a year is enough for everyone.

        My opinion is to fight something stupid and not productive. The struggle forms the forbidden fruit, and it is sweet. A drunkard and not a drunkard is determined by the measure, but it is different for everyone. So the inner limiter, which is determined by one's own dignity, pride and ambition, is more important than 100 external ones !!!
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 20 June 2021 07: 22
          -9
          On the effect of alcohol on the offspring of humans.


          "From a bad seed, do not expect a good tribe".
          Alcohol is a weapon that kills our offspring, our future.

          Women.
          The number of eggs in a woman's body is determined at her birth. The woman's body does not produce other eggs during her life. Alcohol (beer, wine, vodka) damages eggs unevenly. The longer a woman drinks, the more eggs are damaged. Which of these cells the sperm gets to is a matter of chance. A drunkard can be born completely healthy, and a person who sips champagne on the wedding day can be sick. Whether it is worth playing this roulette is up to you.

          Men
          In men, the blood from which "Faberge" spermatozoa are produced is renewed within 3 months. If the body as a whole is poisoned with alcohol, then there is no need to count on the emergence of new, healthy sperm cells capable of fertilizing an egg.

          Full update blood in a woman's body occurs within 3 years. Men - in 4 years. Full update cell in the body of men and women occurs within 7 years.

          If you want to have sick children - drink and your dream will come true.

          Each cigarette smoked is a shot at our trenches. Each drink is a projectile in our trenches. The war to destroy the country is going on on this front. Everyone decides for himself in whose trenches.
        2. depressant
          depressant 20 June 2021 12: 25
          +1
          My opinion is to fight something stupid and not productive. The struggle forms the forbidden fruit, and it is sweet.

          For the very word "struggle" tunes an active person to resistance, while in a weak person it suppresses the spirit, but it is quickly restored due to the example of an active neighbor. And all the efforts spent on the "fight" are leveled.
          In my opinion, no fight should be announced. Want to reduce some evil? Take away a little of his proposal, and instead of the removed "a little" give an attractive nishtyak. And iak step by step. But you have to be able to do that! Yes, and want too.
          It's ridiculously simple now. Did you get a loan? We must give. You don't lie under a bush or in a ditch. And the poor really have nothing to drink. Communal eats up a lot. The way of life has become very expensive. The drunkards in our entire village are vanishingly few. And 10 years ago, during the day, like zombies, they wandered.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 20 June 2021 12: 39
            +1
            Quote: depressant
            The drunkards in our entire village are vanishingly few. And 10 years ago, in the afternoon, like zombies, they wandered.

            There is still, poor fellows. Although they are dying out, because the drunkard's organism cannot withstand daily libation.
            In my yard, I watched how every year, with a discretion of 1 person a year, drinking companions lost their comrades in a glass. Who burned in a hut without putting out a cigarette at night, who left for another world, completely ruining the liver with all that it implies.
            But the ranks of lovers of morning gatherings, timed to the start of alcohol sales, are not particularly thinning - the younger generation joins the ranks of those who like to precipitate for a couple of hours.
            1. depressant
              depressant 20 June 2021 13: 18
              +1
              No, this is not the case with us, so that they sit and wait for the opening))) There are a lot of shops, drinks for every taste - at least fill up. Not a deficit. But the village is close enough to Moscow, people find some kind of work and are always concerned about how to stay on it, or how to find it. So, in the evenings they drink a little, even if they bought a drink during the day. And even drug addicts almost disappeared. And then, it happened, on the playground, their screams lasted until the morning, interspersed with drunken gatherings. I expected that all this would resume with the onset of heat, but for now - silence)))
          2. Richard
            Richard 20 June 2021 15: 08
            +5
            Vodka tour: "master class" from the finns

            a drunken Finnish tourist fell asleep on the subway, a relatively sober girlfriend sat on his feet. Photos by Ismo Bjorn

            In the late 80s, Leningraders affectionately called Finnish tourists "Vodka tour" - our four-legged friends smile
            here is an illustrative photo of that time
            a Finnish line at a liquor store and a Finnish tourist bus.
            1. El Barto
              El Barto 21 June 2021 12: 40
              +3
              By the way, Finnish alcohol tourism did not stop with the admission of Estonia and Latvia to the EU. It just changed a little in post-Soviet times.
              First, gasoline and cigarettes were also added. For residents of the regions bordering with Russia, the benefits of refueling once a week a full tank + 10 l cans more than paid off any visa bureaucracy (especially since it was for them that everything was simple with visas, as well as symmetrically for residents of St. Petersburg, Leningrad Oblast, Karelia, Finnish visas were given in a simplified manner)
              Secondly, the residents of Eastern Finland are still not rich, and it is easier for them to pay about 1 euros for a visa once a year or two and travel to Vyborg, Svetogorsk, Sortavala and other border towns and villages (and a bus ticket from Lappeenranta to Vyborg used to be cost 35 euros, not to mention the travel Imatra-Svetogorsk)

              Only the coronavirus has suspended this movement
      2. astra wild2
        astra wild2 20 June 2021 15: 39
        +2
        And I solemnly promise: to make homemade wine in the fall. A friend gave me a good recipe
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 20 June 2021 15: 49
          +2
          Quote: Astra wild2
          And I solemnly promise: to make homemade wine in the fall. A friend gave me a good recipe

          Good Luck!
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 25 June 2021 06: 54
        +1
        Quote: Bearded
        Today I'll put the brew to ferment.

        From what (or what) are you betting?
    5. Bar1
      Bar1 20 June 2021 08: 20
      -3
      Professor Zhdanov, lectures on alcohol harm education.



      People's Commissars "one hundred grams" for knocked down is, of course, the spread of vice akin to Christian communion. The USSR was leaving the Christian "traditions", but not far from it, and came to the "tradition" of drinking for valiant and heroic behavior. As a result, people have a deeply rooted attitude towards alcohol as to the correct behavior, because it is a "reward" for heroism.
      On the one hand, the state itself built its budget for the health of the people, then fought in the form of ineffective propaganda clichés / posters, wicks and other things, then it itself spread the bad tradition of drinking for heroic deeds.
      Ryzhev, as a historian, imposes a picture of "universal and constant" drinking in Russia from ancient times to the present day, but this is not so: there was an era in Russia when people did not drink if in the 19th century, during the time of alcohol riots, they fought for sobriety in life, and the state and the church imposed drunkenness.
      Drunkenness was also imposed under Stalin, it was under him that a significant part of the budget was built on alcohol.
      Under Brezhnev, the spread of alcohol became large-scale, almost everyone drank - it was already a bacchanalia and an epidemic of the people. Addictive alcohol probably ruined MILLIONS of lives in 70-80-90 years.
      We can say that in fact alcohol is a means of fighting the people and they, those who stand above the people, know this.
    6. bk0010
      bk0010 20 June 2021 13: 35
      +5
      Quote: Alien From
      Drunkenness-fight!
      And fight - girl!
      But the fight against drunkenness was not stopped, and it was conducted very seriously ... Since 1928, the magazine "Sobriety and Culture" began to be published.
      Yes, a terrible blow to alcoholism ... Or is it sarcasm? I always perceived such publications and sobriety societies as a bureaucratic excuse (look - we are doing something, like).
    7. zenion
      zenion 20 June 2021 22: 54
      +1
      I am also against this, that the author is writing a sequel in the next issue, or whatever. There is not enough alcohol, or what is missing, that you have to take a break, or, on the contrary, the author understands that you need to at least eat, otherwise there will be a squirrel at all.
  2. Comrade
    Comrade 20 June 2021 04: 41
    +6
    in comparison with modern times, vodka in the Soviet Union was quite an expensive product. The cheapest "half liter" was sold for 2 rubles 87 kopecks.

    In the Ukrainian SSR, among the poor young people and drunks, fruit and berry wines, popularly called "ink", were very popular.
    Under Brezhnev, one of the most popular, "Golden Autumn", cost 1,28 rubles (including the cost of dishes) for half a liter.

    Under Chernenko, the price went up by thirty kopecks, but the quality also improved.

    One of the landmark decisions of the new general secretary was the appearance, on his initiative, of the famous Resolution of the Central Committee of the CPSU "On measures to overcome drunkenness and alcoholism" (May 7, 1985). A shortage of alcoholic beverages was artificially created, which led to a sharp increase in home brewing. One of the consequences was the disappearance of sugar and yeast from stores.

    Nothing, they began to sweep caramel and candies from the shelves with boxes, they cost a penny, and the sugar content there was good.
    1. SERGE ANT
      SERGE ANT 20 June 2021 04: 55
      +10
      I liked the Bulgarian and Hungarian wines more, and "Slynchev Bryag" is generally a pest! And our vodka was even nothing!
      “And we went with her alone, like on a cloud,
      And we came to "Beijing" with her hand in hand,
      She drank Durso, and I drank Pepper
      For a Soviet family, exemplary! "
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 20 June 2021 07: 35
        +12
        Just about - throughout the article it reads:

        “And she says to me:
        “With the immorality to us, dear comrade,
        There is nothing to do ”(c).
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 20 June 2021 10: 42
          +11
          Sergey, hello. hi
          In Soviet times, people were somehow more sociable and had a sense of humor. For example, we could combine military service with studying at night school and the entertainment available to us. drinks

          From my demob album. smile
          1. Korsar4
            Korsar4 20 June 2021 10: 52
            +6
            Hi Constantine!

            So I thought: when there was more freedom.
            And there is no definite answer.
            And humor is of different kinds.
            Books and films support his level.

            Tim Thaler is a brilliant book.
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 20 June 2021 11: 07
              +7
              Tim Thaler is a brilliant book.

              A well-known book, I know the content, but somehow I did not have a chance to read it.
              And there is no definite answer.

              And in my opinion, in principle, it cannot be. request
              1. Korsar4
                Korsar4 20 June 2021 13: 07
                +4
                I believe in the miraculous properties of laughter.
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 20 June 2021 13: 11
                  +4
                  Me too, he is like sparkling champagne - little wings grow. smile
                  1. Korsar4
                    Korsar4 20 June 2021 13: 17
                    +2
                    Yes.

                    "- Guess who is the best tamer of housemothers?" (from).
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 20 June 2021 13: 26
                      +5
                      Oh, this is the Great Carlson, who always returns! smile
                      1. Catfish
                        Catfish 20 June 2021 13: 54
                        +3
                        ABOUT! The rat has already climbed. laughing Doesn't want to see people happy, squalor. fool
                      2. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 20 June 2021 15: 00
                        +3
                        “The funny man is not used to being bored.
                        A funny man is a big mischievous person ”(c).
                      3. Catfish
                        Catfish 20 June 2021 15: 06
                        +4
                        We all love to be mischievous. smile
                      4. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 20 June 2021 15: 15
                        +2
                        "Veselchak" (c).
                      5. Catfish
                        Catfish 20 June 2021 15: 21
                        +3
                        Only it does not always end happily. laughing
                      6. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 20 June 2021 19: 22
                        +1
                        Getting out of a rut is always unpredictable.
                      7. Catfish
                        Catfish 20 June 2021 19: 41
                        +2
                        It’s like in an old joke:
                        - I loaded the truck, drove out of the base, squeezed the gas pedal with a crooked starter, put my friend on my lap and I sit drinking vodka.
                        - But what about the car ?!
                        - And where on figs she gets out of a rut! laughing
                      8. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                        Kote Pan Kokhanka 20 June 2021 15: 51
                        +3
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        Oh, this is the Great Carlson, who always returns! smile

                        I always suspected that not for jam, but there is jam for mash !!!
                      9. Catfish
                        Catfish 20 June 2021 18: 35
                        0
                        ... for the mash !!!

                        And only as fuel for the "turntable"! laughing
              2. Fat
                Fat 20 June 2021 13: 51
                +5
                Tim Thaler or sold laughter. They even tried to make a movie. In the role of Baron Trech - Kadochnikov ...
                1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                  Kote Pan Kokhanka 20 June 2021 15: 57
                  +2
                  Quote: Thick
                  Tim Thaler or sold laughter. They even tried to make a movie. In the role of Baron Trech - Kadochnikov ...

                  A gorgeous book I read in my distant childhood. To be honest, taking its essence close, I have never understood the mechanism of weaning off "laughter" !!! Practice shows when the "star" begins, normal people "joke" themselves and are ready to understand humor. You can't even go to a bakery today without it!
                  1. Fat
                    Fat 20 June 2021 16: 56
                    +2
                    Duc from that Tim his laugh and returned.
                    A sincere rzhach cannot be shamanized by any craft laughing
                  2. Korsar4
                    Korsar4 20 June 2021 19: 24
                    +1
                    And I got caught in the first year. In the same volume with Peter Pan. That - did not hurt. I liked Tim Thaler very much.
                    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                      Kote Pan Kokhanka 20 June 2021 20: 42
                      +1
                      I don’t know Sergey! There are books for every age. I went through Peter-Pan with a bang as a child, although many books did not come in principle. For example Mio my Mio, Alice or Mary Popins. But about Emil, the Wizard of the Emerald City and hundreds of other books - with a bang. One of the favorite authors V. Krapivin. Sometimes I read even now, or rather, I recount.
                      Somewhere like that!
                      1. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 20 June 2021 20: 47
                        +2
                        Yes. There are books for every age.

                        https://stihi.ru/2016/05/13/3741
                    2. Fat
                      Fat 20 June 2021 20: 53
                      +2
                      There he touched hard in any dispute - winning. From that and pokes and start thinking. .... And I .... And I .. ...
          2. Obliterator
            Obliterator 21 June 2021 00: 13
            +1
            Quote: Sea Cat
            Sergey, hello. hi
            In Soviet times, people were somehow more sociable and had a sense of humor. For example, we could combine military service with studying at night school and the entertainment available to us. drinks

            From my demob album. smile

            The busty young (judging by the picture) teacher was clearly on the list of entertainment.
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 21 June 2021 01: 32
              +2
              ... the teacher was clearly on the entertainment list.

              This is a "collective" image. laughing And we rested with the girls from the local agricultural college. For them, our regiment was a gift, because there were not enough men in the village for everyone, and most of them were married. smile
        2. Richard
          Richard 20 June 2021 15: 12
          +5
          Wasted no time hangover with "Solntsedar" (c) smile
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 20 June 2021 15: 29
            +6
            Dima, with this "elixir" only those sentenced to death can be soldered off. And even then, it would be easier to shoot.
            Folk anecdote of that time:
            A man with a hangover enters the wine department, a question for the saleswoman
            “Do you have a Solcedar?”
            -- Yes there is.
            Continuous and abundant stream of blevontina.
            -- Thank you... wassat
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 20 June 2021 16: 02
              +3
              I don’t know what turned me off from drinking in high school? Perhaps the bottle of the famous port wine "three sevens", crushed by me in the beauty of the seventh. The taste of the pack of "Astra", then the secretly smoked cigar "Pamir" definitely turned away from the smoke!
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 20 June 2021 18: 41
                +2
                "777" was quite a usable swill, comparatively, of course. Soviet so-called. it would be better not to try "cigars", they were made from used army footcloths.
                I tried "Astra" at the age of fifteen, but gave preference to the Bulgarian "Shipka" and smoked it until ours began to produce it under license.
              2. Castro Ruiz
                Castro Ruiz 21 June 2021 20: 51
                +2
                Three axes.
          2. Fat
            Fat 20 June 2021 17: 17
            +4
            Dim, I was so waiting for the moment about the sun, that I forgot about this version of the poison. In vain, probably. Everything was tough, my uncle got hooked on this bullshit, started drinking, left the family ... we got so angry that we only occasionally remember each other. And the family is huge. If you need a whole regiment dazzle it will turn out.
      2. the finish
        the finish 21 June 2021 10: 58
        +2
        I still have a bottle of Slynchev bryag at home from Soviet times. And there is a lot more! There are no such countries, but there are bottles!
    2. Andrey Shiryaev
      Andrey Shiryaev 20 June 2021 08: 42
      +5
      We called it, fruit profitable, it cost 1,02 per bottle.
    3. igor67
      igor67 20 June 2021 12: 45
      +4
      Quote: Comrade
      in comparison with modern times, vodka in the Soviet Union was quite an expensive product. The cheapest "half liter" was sold for 2 rubles 87 kopecks.

      In the Ukrainian SSR, among the poor young people and drunks, fruit and berry wines, popularly called "ink", were very popular.
      Under Brezhnev, one of the most popular, "Golden Autumn", cost 1,28 rubles (including the cost of dishes) for half a liter.

      Under Chernenko, the price went up by thirty kopecks, but the quality also improved.

      One of the landmark decisions of the new general secretary was the appearance, on his initiative, of the famous Resolution of the Central Committee of the CPSU "On measures to overcome drunkenness and alcoholism" (May 7, 1985). A shortage of alcoholic beverages was artificially created, which led to a sharp increase in home brewing. One of the consequences was the disappearance of sugar and yeast from stores.

      Nothing, they began to sweep caramel and candies from the shelves with boxes, they cost a penny, and the sugar content there was good.

      This is Zosia, and the ink was even cheaper Biomycin or Bile Mitsne, 98 kopecks seems
      1. aglet
        aglet 21 June 2021 08: 56
        +3
        "and the ink was even cheaper Biomycin or Bile Mitsne, 98 kopecks seems to be"
        Algerian wine finally cost 57 kopecks
  3. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 20 June 2021 04: 56
    +4
    What was staged under Gorbachev does not even have a name. Such a mediocre execution of a quite simple task ... After all, the simplest solution was that it was necessary to simply start raising prices for all alcoholic beverages stronger than 7 degrees. Planned and calm.
    1. SERGE ANT
      SERGE ANT 20 June 2021 05: 03
      +20
      - Dad, they raised the price of vodka, now you will drink less!
      - No, sonny, you will eat less!
    2. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 20 June 2021 07: 37
      +9
      Quote: carstorm 11
      After all, the simplest solution was that you just had to start raising prices.

      And send all the people to moonshiners Yes
  4. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 20 June 2021 05: 06
    +7
    Alcohol abuse is a shame for any self-respecting person. And, already, bragging about "feats" committed "in a frenzy" is the height of stupidity and buffoonery.
    The most harmful habit to use is drunkenness in production (during the production process). The author has not tried in vain. I went through all the "stages" of the state anti-alcoholic nonsense. The most humiliating thing during the Gorbachev anti-alcohol campaign was the queues at liquor stores with accompanying massacre and broken heads (glass containers) in the beer queues.
    The only way to save a person from the use that gives him pleasure is to replace it with creativity or other exciting activity. It is primitivism that generates craving for alcohol.
    ==========
    A shameful phenomenon of the 70s (not described by the author) - police patrols, waiting for wealthy drunken citizens near cafes and restaurants in the evening. I won't even give examples. Everyone who lived at that time faced similar, however, as well as with "robbed" citizens who ended up in a sobering-up center after receiving a salary.
    Alcoholism is a disease. This is the voluntary transformation of a person into a pig-like creature. And traditions, like rituals, such a phenomenon cannot be a priori. However, as well as various restrictions and prohibitions in the purchase of alcohol (with the exception of age and related places of sale). It was the lack of goods that gave rise to speculation in alcohol always and everywhere. And these graphs of Gorbachev's times do not indicate how and how many times home brewing grew in the country. A rubber glove on a glass bottle called "Gorbachev's hand" is a confirmation of this.
    hi
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 20 June 2021 05: 21
      +6
      I, like any normal man, did not suffer much from sobriety at one time) But at some point I just stopped drinking altogether) In my weakness, the trigger was the birth of a child. I even quit smoking) And now 10 years have passed. Zero regrets and you can fool and sober))))
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 20 June 2021 05: 36
        +6
        Quote: carstorm 11
        I, like any normal man, did not suffer much from sobriety at one time

        I remember that (attributed to A.P. Chekhov):
        If a person doesn’t drink or smoke, then you involuntarily wonder if he is a bastard.

        Only I do not mean "normal men" who drink so much that they cannot get home.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 20 June 2021 05: 52
          +5
          Well, this is understandable) I just drank my tank) And now I just don't really understand how you can even drink a little when there are children at home) We are an example for them. They see and absorb everything that we do.
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 20 June 2021 07: 18
            +6
            Quote: carstorm 11
            We are an example for them. They see and absorb everything that we do.

            Most importantly, you need to remember that they do not tolerate deception and pretense.
            By the way, I quit smoking in 2005, although before that I had been smoking for 35 years. Just one fine moment I heard my son that he was disgusted with tobacco smoke. And today I feel great.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 20 June 2021 09: 00
              +4
              This is depressing. Why do others, having children, continue to feed these habits. I generally have girls. In a nightmare, I can't even imagine that they would see me under a degree or with a cigarette)))
      2. paul3390
        paul3390 20 June 2021 11: 59
        +5
        ABOUT! I also gave up 10 years ago. Absolutely. I used to respect cognac, but somehow I caught myself thinking that alcohol had ceased to bring pleasure. Instead of a bright world - after a glass, some kind of depression began, stupid thoughts, other dirty tricks .. Well, I thought - why should I translate the product? And he dropped it. In general, I'm used to it and I don't regret it. I haven't been drinking for a long time.
    2. Fat
      Fat 20 June 2021 08: 12
      +3
      A shameful phenomenon of the 70s (not described by the author) - police patrols waiting for wealthy drunken citizens near cafes and restaurants in the evening

      Come on! This business is still flourishing in terry color. Do not feed bread, just give a reason to rummage through the pockets of a "suspicious" citizen. It is highly desirable that the unfortunate person does not have a company am
  5. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 20 June 2021 05: 12
    0
    Our domestic serials about the police and the police are open propaganda of alcoholism.
    If you look at the swollen face of Zheki from the Cop wars, you will really think that he is still remembered in Kandahar.
    I'm not talking about the Streets of Broken Lights and other similar series.
    And the film Peculiarities of the National Hunt is certainly good ... but too much vodka is poured into the actors ... not good. what
    It is necessary to change people's lives for the better, and prohibitions and tightening of screws will not do good ... this also applies to the fight against alcoholism.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 20 June 2021 05: 31
      +2
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Our domestic serials about the police and the police are open propaganda of alcoholism.

      Watch the "Alien District" and police representative Igor Svistunov - get even more impressions. By the way, there Sergei Russkin from "Peculiarities of the National ..." plays - how he changes people in time and roles. wink
    2. U-58
      U-58 20 June 2021 05: 43
      +1
      The other day we repeated the series Executioner about Major Cherkasov. So they drink there in every episode, and in one of them three episodes in a row in a drink ...
    3. Obliterator
      Obliterator 21 June 2021 00: 22
      +1
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Our domestic serials about the police and the police are open propaganda of alcoholism.

      Quote: Lech from Android.
      I'm not talking about the Streets of Broken Lights and other similar series.

      The first seasons of Streets, where they solved crimes and got drunk afterwards, are similar to the truth, because the scriptwriters there were former Criminal Investigation Operators. Everything else does not deserve attention in principle.
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      And the film Peculiarities of the National Hunt is certainly good ... but too much vodka is poured into the actors ... not good.

      There is a clear contrast between the modern "hunters", who eat as if not in themselves and do not know how to skin the carcass, and the count, who drank one glass of brandy and then took the wolf with his bare hands.
  6. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 20 June 2021 05: 37
    +11
    many admirers of Hemingway then dreamed of the opportunity to go to the bar and order a glass of cognac, glass of calvados or something like that.
    1.A glass of Calvados? Maybe a glass of vodka is better? Calvados is an apple "cognac" (more precisely, brandy ...) ... so why, a "glass of cognac", but a whole "glass of Calvados"? request
    the production of a new vodka called "Golden Fleece" was promptly launched.
    2.Ooooh! Vodka "Golden Fleece" was legendary back in "Soviet times"! They praised and regretted ... that "there was * some * bastard who stopped the release of the Golden Fleece ..." True, about the bastard, this is already from the end of the 80s ...
    The contracts for the supply of cognac from Bulgaria and dry wine from Algeria were terminated (and significant penalties had to be paid). Distilleries have sharply reduced the production of spirits. Vineyards were cut down in the southern regions of the country.
    3. It is not for nothing that the popular wisdom says: Make a fool pray to God, he will break his forehead! ruining modern Russia)
    The cheapest "half liter" was sold for 2 rubles 87 kopecks. It was "Moscow special" vodka, made according to the pre-revolutionary recipe of 1894. After 1981, its cost was almost equal to that of other varieties of vodka. Another cheap vodka, which for some reason was popularly called "Crankshaft", cost 3 rubles 62 kopecks. She disappeared from the market after 1981. "Russkaya", "Stolichnaya", "Extra" until 1981 cost 4 rubles 12 kopecks. The most expensive was "Pshenichnaya" - 5 rubles 25 kopecks. "Sibirskaya" was a vodka of the middle price category (4 rubles 42 k.), Its peculiarity was a strength of 45 degrees. After 1981, a bottle of the cheapest vodka cost 5 rubles 30 kopecks.
    4. Well, I don’t know! My memories tell me a little differently! In our area, you could only buy: "Vodka" (2 rubles 82 (7) k.; "Moscow special" (3 rubles 62 k.) "Stolichnaya" (4 rubles 12 k.) ... The rest was brought from Moscow (other large cities ...), one relative sent "unusual" drinks from Kyrgyzstan (like Indian instant coffee ...). True, there were also "Drinking Alcohol" 95 gr. ... and "Vodka" ( in words) crepe. 56 gr. But I don’t remember exactly the cost ... somewhere over 5 rubles ...
    But the most offensive thing is that in the USSR there were Calvados, and whiskey, gin, and rum .... And some other "exotic" drinks! And all this is 4-5-6 rubles! Why didn't we live in the USSR? drinks Niht Andestend! fool
    1. SERGE ANT
      SERGE ANT 20 June 2021 05: 59
      +11
      Why didn't we live in the USSR?
      And do not say .. I would ask who for this, but there are no others (like ebna), and those are far away (like the one marked in Germany).
    2. Slobodskoy
      Slobodskoy 20 June 2021 06: 04
      +7
      "Crankshaft" was called because the word "vodka" on the label visually resembled a crankshaft - the letter is at the top, the letter is at the bottom.
      1. sniperino
        sniperino 20 June 2021 11: 38
        +3
        Quote: Slobodskoy
        "Crankshaft" was called because the word "vodka" on the label visually resembled a crankshaft - the letter is at the top, the letter is at the bottom.
        Live and learn!
        I don’t remember such a label and still believed that “crankshaft” was a driver's slang word that became popular among drinkers because of the unpleasant effect that occurs when drinking different alcohol, and its special expression in vodka for 3.62. The fact is that the effect of alcohol on taste buds and muscle motility in the digestive tract is very similar to a crankshaft blow. If someone started the car manually (with a "crooked starter", preferably a truck), it is easy to see this analogy, which exists even with the use of low-alcohol drinks, but in a significantly weakened form. This effect of the "crankshaft" in the body is felt, even if you sip a little alcoholic drink, and its absence in the gentle spread of heat through the esophagus speaks in favor of the high quality of alcohol. hi
        1. Slobodskoy
          Slobodskoy 20 June 2021 13: 33
          +2
          I was still a kid, but I remembered this label. And there is such a phenomenon, but who hits it with a crankshaft? It’s illogical. Then it was more logical to call it “mount” So the origin of the name “crankshaft” is from the label.
          1. sniperino
            sniperino 21 June 2021 08: 48
            0
            Quote: Slobodskoy
            And there is such a phenomenon, but who is it beating with a crankshaft? It was illogical. Then it was more logical to call it "mount"
            The beating occurs due to the crankshaft device, where the translational movement of the pistons is converted into rotational. Your logic is not the only correct one, but it has the right to be only in the situation of starting the engine manually. The uniform beating of the crankshaft of varying strength is heard in all internal combustion engines: in the sound, noise and roar of engines.
    3. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 20 June 2021 06: 10
      +5
      "Rykovka" ... People often called it "half-fish", adding that Rykov itself (60 g) was drunk by Rykov! According to some recollections, sometimes "rykovka" with a strength of over 30 grams appeared on sale. ... If this is true, then it is not entirely clear what it was connected with! Either the authorities "experimented" ... or there were some problems in production! (In our city, "consumer cooperation" produced "chatter" from a mixture of wild-berry juice with alcohol ... Well, of course, they "saved" alcohol ... Once, a commission came to the shop with a check ... Urgently. surplus of "alcohol in" chatter! The joy in the city was "indescribable"! The drunks instead of the expected "chatter" like "wine" costing a "penny" received a drink of strength close to vodka!) wink
    4. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 20 June 2021 08: 48
      +1
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      The cheapest "half liter" was sold for 2 rubles 87 kopecks. It was "Moscow special" vodka, made according to the pre-revolutionary recipe of 1894.

      stop After the monetary reform of 1961 ...
      ... the cheapest "half liter" was sold for 2 rubles 87 kopecks.

      Which before that cost (???) 21.20 r (according to other sources 30.70 r)
      I can inform you that Moskovskaya Osobaya was considered an everyday vodka. On holidays and celebrations on the tables you could see "Stolichnaya" for 3.12 or even "3 stars" for 4.42 ...

      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      many admirers of Hemingway then dreamed of the opportunity to go to the bar and order a glass of cognac, glass of calvados or something like that.

      Most likely, citizens who know the name "Calvados" knew its properties, and they could order a glass of absinthe ... You did not remember about rum, which was customary to drink in circles ... laughing drinks
    5. Boris55
      Boris55 20 June 2021 10: 08
      +1
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      The cheapest "half liter" was sold for 2 rubles 87 kopecks.

      Since those times were touched upon, it is not a sin to remember this:



      How the standard has changed. For what - it is not difficult to guess. Alcohol "Royal" everyone remembers, and the consequences? Where is the USSR now ... With the intoxicated people, you can do whatever you want.

      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 20 June 2021 10: 22
        +4
        Duc, it's not for nothing that cheap vodka labeled just "VODKA" was popularly called "mote" and they assured each other that it was vodka made of wood ... but that didn't stop anyone from buying this vodka! wink
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 20 June 2021 10: 25
          +6
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          assured each other that this was vodka made of wood ...

          "To put it our way - we didn't drink much.
          I’m not lying, by God.
          Tell me, Seryoga!
          And if I didn’t drive vodka from sawdust,
          What would we have had from three ... from four ... from five bottles! "
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 20 June 2021 15: 10
            +2
            Quote: Boris55
            And if I didn’t drive vodka from sawdust,
            What would we have had from three ... from four ... from five bottles! "

        2. Slobodskoy
          Slobodskoy 20 June 2021 13: 40
          -2
          I remember when "Andropovka" appeared, of a rather disgusting taste, they said that it was made of wood, and that it was made of oil, and from completely rotten potatoes, etc. But it was cheaper, therefore they took it.
      2. Slobodskoy
        Slobodskoy 20 June 2021 13: 28
        0
        Are you, excuse me, by any chance a KOBovets?
        1. Slobodskoy
          Slobodskoy 20 June 2021 13: 42
          0
          General Petrov, "Dead Water", "Global Predictor", "Bible Project", etc. Are you one of these?
  7. U-58
    U-58 20 June 2021 05: 40
    +4
    The fight against drunkenness is needed now.
    Got drunk - choked.
    Moreover, we poison ourselves with "beer" from chemically aggressive enzymes, wine from powder and vodka from Chinese "sewer" alcohol.
    In principle, Gorbachev was right in his endeavors.
    But here's a moronic implementation of these, start, the inability to track the situation and amend everything and killed. ...
    1. Slobodskoy
      Slobodskoy 20 June 2021 06: 06
      +5
      There are excellent vodka and wine, but they cost so decent. It's just full of cheap vodkas, but a cheap ribka is a rotten yushka.
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 20 June 2021 06: 43
        +5
        Quote: Slobodskoy
        There are excellent vodka and wine, but they cost a lot.

        Do not put salt on my wound ! It was a glorious time when the Crimean port "Massandra" from Ukraine cost 90 re (! fellow ) ... then 120 re ... 190 re ... Now the "Russian" Crimean port costs ... between 400 re and 500 re! There is a "Crimean port" worth 500 rubles! On the example of port prices, one can clearly see what real inflation is in the country! How to live for a Russian alcoholic? I love port wine (Madeira, sherry, Cahors ... in general, fortified wines)! We have to resort to a forced method, to make the port ourselves! (you buy vodka ... suitable grape juice ... add some more "secret" ingredients ... mix so that you get a 20 g port bag .... you stand for a while ... and a wonderful port with hints of chocolate and prunes with a strength of 20 g. !!!)
        1. Lionnvrsk
          Lionnvrsk 20 June 2021 08: 02
          +6
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          On the example of port prices, one can clearly see what real inflation is in the country!

          Bullshit! Good wine cannot be cheap! The same Madeira, for example, must be kept in an American oak barrel at a temperature of 40-50 degrees, then poured into the next barrels, lower the temperature and hold again. And so for 10-20 years. What 90 re we can talk about ?? !!! Well, perhaps that "Massandra from Ukraine", as you put it, was loaded with the same winemakers as you, according to your own recipe! Yes
          Do you by any chance make Imperial Abrau-Durso out of dry wine and a siphon? feel
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 20 June 2021 10: 28
            -1
            Quote: LIONnvrsk
            Do you make imperial Abrau-Durso from dry wine and a siphon?

            Come in ... come in! This is not served here! ...
            1. Lionnvrsk
              Lionnvrsk 20 June 2021 10: 57
              +2
              Quote: Nikolaevich I
              Quote: LIONnvrsk
              Do you make imperial Abrau-Durso from dry wine and a siphon?

              Come in ... come in! This is not served here! ...

              Can you submit? what Why, then, do you bodyage a self-made port bag? For the love of art? feel
              Well, I went. wink
          2. ANB
            ANB 20 June 2021 14: 55
            +3
            ... Well, maybe that "Massandra from Ukraine

            Until 2014, I bought Massandra wines only in Crimea in the Massandra brand store. And only since 2015 I have been buying from my regular store.
            And then and now it was not cheap.
        2. Undecim
          Undecim 20 June 2021 23: 24
          +2
          I love port wine (Madeira, sherry, Cahors ... in general, fortified wines)!

          We have to resort to a forced method, to make the port ourselves! (you buy vodka ... suitable grape juice ... add some more "secret" ingredients ... mix so that you get a 20 g port bag .... you hold it for a while ... and ...
          it turns out some kind of alcohol-containing mullet.
          Although there are a lot of fortified Spanish and Portuguese wines on sale of normal quality and price.
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 21 June 2021 09: 57
            +2
            Quote: Undecim

            Although there are a lot of fortified Spanish and Portuguese wines on sale of normal quality and price.

            I haven't seen fortified Spanish wines in our area ... (maybe I didn't pay attention ...) There are Portuguese ports in the assortment ... Massandra ports (sherry, Madeira ...) too! But as for the prices ... these fortified wines cannot be called cheap! There was a time when prices for foreign drinks could be called acceptable, but "everything flows and changes"! Prices "then" and "today" are like "heaven and earth"! Or about the quality ... I wondered somehow " the ins and outs of "Portuguese ports (because I often bought them then!) ... conducted an Internet investigation and it turned out that most of them are cheap, low category wines by Portuguese standards!"
            Quote: Undecim
            it turns out some kind of alcohol-containing mullet.

            There is a joke: "Bonfire ... a cauldron with a boiling brew ... conversation ...: Oh, I don't like this Chingachgook! I don't like it, don't eat it!" So about the "dummies"! If I got a "mule", I would not drink it and do not! But those homemade ports that I make allow me to realize my "creativity"! I can make a homemade "port" for a variety of tastes! There are only 2 main "components" ... but how many variations! 1. First, choose the best of all brands of grape juice ... But you can take apple juice or cherry, blackcurrant juice, for example ... You can mix different juices! 2. Vodka (alcohol) ... But you can take cognac, tincture, grape vodka or other fruit ... a mixture of them! Need to sweeten? Not necessarily sugar! There is honey, fructose, fruit and berry syrups! Sometimes you mix 2 syrups! You can use spices ... It is necessary to choose the right, most successful ratio from everything! And to decide whether to warm up the "blend" or not ... store first in warm or cold, in complete darkness or twilight ... and how long ...? What fortress "give out": 18 *? twenty*? 20 *?
            Eh! And you ... "dummy"! You yourself ...!
            1. Undecim
              Undecim 21 June 2021 10: 04
              -1
              You yourself ...!

              I myself, if I want to Drink, buy high-quality alcoholic drinks.
              You contradict yourself. If you can't afford alcohol of normal quality, then how can you be sure that it will come from cheap ingredients?
              1. Nikolaevich I
                Nikolaevich I 21 June 2021 10: 50
                +5
                Quote: Undecim
                You contradict yourself

                No contradiction! "Alcohol of normal quality" I "can afford" ... if not "frequent"! But remember the advertisement (!): Why pay more, if there is not a noticeable difference ?! And I have such a character ... if I can make an excellent (good), and at the same time, a cheap imitation of an expensive "vesch", then a toad starts to crush me when I try to buy the most expensive "vesch"! You try to "score" phrases in a search engine: "homemade cognac" ... "homemade whiskey" and so on, and you will see how many recipes on the internet ... how many people are fond of such "homemade products"! I don’t make whiskey, cognac ... but I did successful imitations of Finnish liqueurs from northern berries! Moreover, they are not on sale in my city ... Since I do not make "home" cognac and whiskey; then I buy them in supermarkets ... I follow the sites where they give the characteristics of alcohol ... I do not buy those "brands" that are characterized as suspicious or "spoiled", but I rely on my own experience! At home I make liqueurs, ports ... (now less often ...), but from time to time I also buy "originals" so as not to forget the "real" taste and have the opportunity to compare!
                1. Undecim
                  Undecim 21 June 2021 11: 03
                  +3
                  If your occupation brings you moral and "physical" satisfaction, I can only wish you every success. Judging by the minuses, you are not the only fan of the French brand "samzhene" here.
                  1. Nikolaevich I
                    Nikolaevich I 22 June 2021 01: 55
                    +2
                    Quote: Undecim
                    Judging by the minuses, you are not the only fan of the French brand "samzhene" here.

                    To be honest, I assumed that our "conversation" was going on in "tete-a-tete" mode and no one cares about us! It turned out that no ... I do not argue, it's nice that I have supporters ... but the "Do it yourself" movement, in spite of the "pros and cons", has been gaining momentum a long time ago! The reasons are different! Someone loves cervelat, but does not want to pay for "cellulose" in sausage, doctors scare them with cholesterol, and many are now strained with pennies ... So they make dry-cured "cervelat", "sudjuk" from chicken (turkey, rabbit ... .)! They make all kinds of "homemade" cheeses, cream cheese "Philadelphia" ... The situation is about the same with alcohol ... And the Internet serves as a witness ... there you can find a huge number of all kinds (!) "Homemade" ... hi
                    1. Undecim
                      Undecim 22 June 2021 06: 18
                      +5
                      Honestly, I assumed that our "conversation" was in "tete-a-tete" mode.

                      Yes, it does not work like that today on the site. Some aggressively "control" the process.
                      1. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 22 June 2021 09: 41
                        +3
                        In the open, counting on the "tete-a-tete" regime is too optimistic.
                      2. depressant
                        depressant 22 June 2021 11: 03
                        +4
                        In the open, counting on the "tete-a-tete" regime is too optimistic.


                        And contrary to my hope
                        Here everyone walks without clothes
                        wassat ))))
                      3. Phil77
                        Phil77 22 June 2021 15: 39
                        +4
                        "everyone walks without clothes."

                        Greetings to you Lyudmila Yakovlevna!
                        How are you, don't go to restaurants and cafes, no? From the 28th, only vaccinated citizens will be allowed there.
                      4. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 22 June 2021 15: 42
                        +4
                        What the potential savings.
                        They began to count me from the third job.
                      5. Phil77
                        Phil77 22 June 2021 15: 59
                        +4
                        And I would call it discrimination.
                        Hello, Sergey!
                      6. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 22 June 2021 21: 16
                        +3
                        Hello Seryozha!

                        It's still curious.
                        But there are more and more strings for which a person can be pulled.
                      7. depressant
                        depressant 22 June 2021 16: 10
                        +3
                        In no case, Seryozha! I used to go to such establishments for lunch, occasionally, being on business trips. The tradition has been lost long ago.
                        Good day! )))
                        Rather, hot. I have +35 here. The window - one - was opened and hastened to shut.
                      8. Phil77
                        Phil77 22 June 2021 18: 55
                        +4
                        And let me return to kvass? So, after yesterday's tasting of the white "Ochakovsky" kvass, I decided to switch to it! For. Today I bought an ordinary traditional one, but after the white one it seemed to me somehow ... insipid. So white is good! drinks
                        Just in this heat. We also have 35!
                      9. depressant
                        depressant 22 June 2021 19: 28
                        +4
                        Once I bought Ochakovsky kvass! It contains degrees, you could smell it. She did not drink. I love pepsi cola laughing
                      10. Phil77
                        Phil77 22 June 2021 19: 46
                        +4
                        Try white. Personally, I really liked it. I wonder what prevented me from trying it before ... to try it? recourse
                        By the way, I took him in the "top five".
                        Degrees? Well, fermentation, I think they are present in all kvass.
                        Pepsi is an unpatriotic product! laughing However, one can recall Schellenberg and his love for Camel cigarettes, if Semyonov did not lie. bully
                      11. depressant
                        depressant 22 June 2021 20: 00
                        +4
                        Hmmm ... There was a time when I smoked Camel and Marlboro, and now I got used to my cheap ones. But they are long and with a long filter, I'm not a cigarette gourmet ... But you let out the smoke, and something that may have made it angry, and it's easier to live with it, and a pause in the usual hustle and bustle.
                      12. Phil77
                        Phil77 22 June 2021 20: 24
                        +3
                        Well, "Camel" I still sometimes resin, based on course, "Java. White gold. Red." White gold? Already ridiculous. I tried the Crimean ones, but didn't go. And in general, prices are yyy-edge!
                      13. depressant
                        depressant 22 June 2021 20: 50
                        +4
                        In fact, the best tobacco in the Union grew in Abkhazia, the Samsung variety. Father only smoked it. Friends brought him from the villages, already dry leaves. Samsung is Turkish tobacco. Americans came and bought ready-made fermented products from factories. Well, now there is hardly anyone doing this. How stupid it all went, left and disappeared into the past ...
                        And now - a panicky article either on opinions or on analytics. Like, the Americans want, they will crush us in a moment. Hmmm ... I wanted to write something in support of the Author, but, seeing the ostrich politics of the forum, I did not. No more strength to get involved in a fight. Maybe the heat? wassat )))
                      14. Phil77
                        Phil77 22 June 2021 21: 07
                        +4
                        I think it's hot. The day before yesterday, yesterday and today is moral impotence. Well, I don’t want to do anything! Tomorrow? Yes, there is a good creative job, I love this. There is one thing that I just don’t digest and fall into a stupor. It’s called monotony. , monotony and everyday life.
                      15. depressant
                        depressant 22 June 2021 21: 32
                        +3
                        These monotony and everyday life, the repetition of the same tedious actions, without which, well, it is impossible, say, of the most primitive - washing dishes, taking out the garbage - this is what life is made of, overloaded with all this and therefore not remembered in detail ... And she looks as if she never existed. At least one bright, albeit completely unimportant, but I repeat, a bright, non-trivial event per day, and now life is already becoming rich and full ...
                        Do you know what this is for me? Evening clouds. There were years, there were dazzling clouds, the play of shadows, colors and bizarre shapes - whole pictures, events played out, I remember all this - 2015, 2016, there was beauty. And now monotonous sunsets. A few days ago, after the showers, there was something. I looked. Gore in the eyes, green spots of poisonous shades, to fright for sight.
                      16. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 22 June 2021 15: 41
                        +4
                        Not. Just a collection of different images.
                      17. depressant
                        depressant 22 June 2021 16: 20
                        +4
                        All my images will be included in the bouquet,
                        But only one is the source of my troubles.
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 20 June 2021 13: 49
        +4
        Quote: Slobodskoy
        There are excellent vodka and wine, but they cost a lot.

        It's not about "decency", but about the fact that during the LIB time vodka cost 2,87 - 3,62, while the sausage "Doktorskaya-Lyubitelskaya-Molochnaya" was within 2,20 - 2,90 ... cheap vodka 0,5 costs 200 rubles, and the "Doctor's" sausage of GOST quality?
        They solder and fool our Russian citizen with surrogates and various "crap", and then they are surprised at the absence of smart thoughts in their heads.
        1. Slobodskoy
          Slobodskoy 20 June 2021 15: 59
          +1
          Well, as I say, if you take vodka for 200 rubles, then why be surprised. And for 1000, not everyone can afford it.
        2. Ryazan87
          Ryazan87 20 June 2021 16: 03
          +4
          but in the fact that in the days of LIB vodka cost 2,87 - 3,62, and the sausage at the same time "Doktorskaya-Lyubitelskaya-Molochnaya" within 2,20 - 2,90

          Just keep in mind that the Soviet ruble in 1980 is approximately = 200-220 current rubles. Those. we get the cost of a bottle of vodka (2.87) = 574 rubles. Well, now you will find half a liter for 550 rubles without problems, even of a relatively acceptable quality.
          Sausage, well, let's take 2.50, let's take the average value. That means again 500 rubles.
          Now ... since we asked for GOST:
          Sausage Remit Doktorskaya Gost boiled in a protein casing 500 g - 329 rubles.
          Cooked sausage Bakhrushin Doktorskaya GOST 400 g - 224,00 ₽
          Sausage Doctor's Gost DYMOV, 1kg - 509 rubles.
          R.S. The influence of GOST in terms of sausages on intellectual development seems to be quite controversial.
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 20 June 2021 16: 18
            +1
            Quote: Ryazanets87
            R.S. The influence of GOST in terms of sausages on intellectual development seems to be quite controversial.

            In part of the postscripts, I would like to emphasize the idea that in today's Russia it is easier and more convenient to get drunk than to eat ...
            hi
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 20 June 2021 06: 21
      +4
      Firstly, it goes now and is of very high quality. Since 09, consumption has almost halved. And this is a fact. As for Chinese spirits, this lie that has flooded the Internet for adults is even ridiculous to discuss. Well, just for example. More than 50 percent of alcoholic beverages in Russia are made by the factories of the Roust company. Only your own spirits. Tatspirt and its factories are only their own alcohols. Alcoholic Siberian Group only its own spirits. Well, Beluga is still with its factories. Crystal, Bashspirt. This is over 90 percent of the market. Who buys the Chinese pancake for production? ) The basement of the company?) The turnover of alcohols is closed so tightly and controlled so seriously that even if you buy alcohol on the internet, the police will meet you when you get it) Beer and wine are not my topic, but I heard that you can't go for a walk there either. Although there is enough chemistry and truth. But here you have to understand that good wine cannot cost less than 300 rubles per bottle stupidly in terms of costs.
      1. lwxx
        lwxx 20 June 2021 08: 25
        +2
        The turnover of alcohols is closed so tightly and monitored so seriously that even having bought alcohol on the Internet, the police will meet you when you receive it
        Here you are a naive person. lol I have been buying alcohol, like my friends and acquaintances, for many years. We don't use civilian vodka. And from Kamchatka to the Caucasus, everyone complains of a sharp deterioration in quality over the past year. And if earlier homemade vodka (boiled) was of excellent quality, now it is used only for tinctures. I am thinking about buying a good distiller. Sometimes in companies you have to try the factory one, in the morning you can feel the difference. Alcohol is harmful with frequent and more use. Like any medicine.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 20 June 2021 08: 54
          -1
          I'm not a naive person. I have been in the wholesale of alcohol for almost 10 years. I know this market inside and out. I personally visited all major factories and production. As for buying for many years, since the circulation of medical alcohol is prohibited, I am sorry for your health and the fact that you are breaking the laws will catch up with you sooner or later. I've seen this many times.
          1. lwxx
            lwxx 20 June 2021 09: 21
            +4
            I've seen this many times.
            And I have seen many times what your official products lead to. For more than 20 years I have traded in retail, that muck that is bottled in factories. And I noticed that the richer a person is, the less he buys vodka, prefers more "dirty" drinks. Ideally, distillates, but not rectifications.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 20 June 2021 09: 31
              -1
              I am not a manufacturer but we always track the quality. If without details, then it is always above average. There are a bunch of just brands that people love. Do not count it as advertising, but for example now in the top of our sales list is Arkhangelskaya and Tundra. I do not drink myself, therefore, I estimate it only by statistics))) as for personal choice, I would choose a rectification purely for personal preferences. Whiskey barbecue is nonsense)))
              1. lwxx
                lwxx 20 June 2021 09: 34
                0
                Arkhangelskaya has not gone far, but the Tundra ,,, Even in the beginning there was more or less, and so disgusting. However, as well as the widely advertised Beluga.
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 20 June 2021 09: 44
                  0
                  Well, this is the statistics so far), as I said by taste, I can not determine myself) As for the beluga, it is not the most popular that was what it is)
              2. UA3QHP
                UA3QHP 21 June 2021 14: 58
                0
                Quote: carstorm 11
                Whiskey barbecue is nonsense)))

                Well I do not know. Jack Daniel's is doing pretty well.
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 21 June 2021 15: 07
                  0
                  I have one friend. He says so. Whiskey is for conversation with everyone. Vodka for chatting with friends.
                  1. UA3QHP
                    UA3QHP 22 June 2021 07: 42
                    +2
                    In principle, it doesn't matter what to drink. It is important with whom.
                    1. Korsar4
                      Korsar4 22 June 2021 15: 43
                      +3
                      According to Omar Khayyam.
                    2. Slobodskoy
                      Slobodskoy 23 June 2021 01: 40
                      -2
                      Yes, in general, booze is such an esoteric thing. Sometimes the alcohol is first-class, and the snack is excellent, but it does not come in here. And sometimes something cheap and no snack, but it goes well, the next morning everything is in order ... Maybe it really depends on company, the state of the body at the time of drinking and also fig knows from what ...
            2. Konnick
              Konnick 20 June 2021 09: 43
              +1
              In general, we have solved the problem of state monopoly incorrectly. The state has a monopoly on the production of alcohol, or rather, they are trying to return everything, but it is necessary to introduce not on the production, but on the sale of alcohol-containing goods in order to control both from the point of safety of consumption and control over financial flows. It will be much easier to be able to control quality and therefore will not sell any muck of under-intake production.
          2. lwxx
            lwxx 20 June 2021 09: 31
            +1
            and the fact that you are breaking the laws
            It is not for me to tell you about how many violations of the law, intentional and not, at wholesalers.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 20 June 2021 09: 33
              +1
              Well, there is red and white) there is a full bouquet), legal opportunities help us more at wholesale. There are always gaps. In any country)
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 20 June 2021 13: 56
          +2
          Quote: lwxx
          Sometimes in companies you have to try the factory one, in the morning you can feel the difference. Alcohol is harmful if consumed frequently and more. Like any medicine.

          And in the USSR, they developed hangover vodka ... Yes By the way, interesting conclusions:
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 25 June 2021 07: 19
            +1
            Quote: ROSS 42
            And in the USSR, they developed hangover vodka ...

            I still have hangover-free moonshine! bully
      2. garri-lin
        garri-lin 20 June 2021 08: 37
        +4
        For a liter of wine (and not a wine drink) you need: a liter bottle, 3 kg of grapes, more than half a year (preferably a little over a year) in 300 rubles by no means will fit.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 20 June 2021 08: 56
          0
          Well, this is the minimum value) with a large volume, the price is always lower, but again, with logistics accounting 300, this is the minimum
          1. garri-lin
            garri-lin 20 June 2021 09: 39
            +3
            Yes, for any size of production 300, this is very small. Good wine with such a budget can only be obtained by a miracle.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 20 June 2021 09: 40
              +1
              I glvoru - the minimum value) so of course more)
            2. aglet
              aglet 21 June 2021 11: 42
              +1
              "Yes, for any production size of 300, this is very little. A good wine with such a budget can only be obtained by a miracle."
              here is a recipe for the production of quality wine, a laureate of some kind of competition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opKYNSfPkus. there and 300 re is a tenfold broth. and so in Russia wine is produced
              1. garri-lin
                garri-lin 21 June 2021 15: 25
                +1
                Alas. Alas. To tears.
        2. Liam
          Liam 20 June 2021 09: 51
          0
          Quote: garri-lin
          For a liter of wine (and not a wine drink) you need: a liter bottle, 3 kg of grapes, more than half a year (preferably a little over a year) in 300 rubles by no means will fit.

          How much will you manage? What is the cost of a liter of wine at a large winery? Do you have any official sources of these figures or is it your guess?
          1. garri-lin
            garri-lin 20 June 2021 13: 20
            0
            I've been making wine since I was 15. It is wine and not a wine-like product. So I know.
            1. Liam
              Liam 20 June 2021 14: 15
              0
              And do you seriously think that the cost of a liter of wine made at home is the same or at least comparable to that of a winery?
              Try to smelt a ton of pig iron at home and compare the cost to a ton of pig iron in a metallurgical plant
              1. garri-lin
                garri-lin 20 June 2021 16: 28
                +1
                I have listed what is needed to produce a liter of wine. Or do you think that the factory uses something else for the production of wine?
                1. Liam
                  Liam 20 June 2021 16: 31
                  0
                  Quote: garri-lin
                  I have listed what is needed to produce a liter of wine

                  Yes. But they did not indicate the cost. For example, how much does a kilo of grapes cost and how much does a bottle cost. They just said that it costs more than 300 rubles. Which I strongly doubt
                  1. garri-lin
                    garri-lin 20 June 2021 17: 04
                    +1
                    A kilo of grapes from a wholesaler will cost 50-80 rubles. A good bottle with a stopper 50. If a plant grows its grapes, it will be a little cheaper. I don’t know how to estimate the year the wine ripens. I can't imagine how much such storage costs there. But also a lot. At least it is necessary to maintain the desired temperature in the room. And this is also money. Personally, my wine cost is 0 rubles. I do not bear production costs.
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 20 June 2021 17: 18
                      +3
                      Wine producers have their own vineyards. There are no costs for the purchase and transport of grapes. They buy bottles in the millions and they cost a penny for them. Almost all processes at the winery, from washing milk mushrooms to bottling wine, are automated.
                      The cost price of a very good Italian wine Chianti Classico is about 4 euro a liter. Taxes included. And this is a very good prestigious wine.
                      Wine departments of French, Italian, Spanish markets are full of bottles of quality wine at a price of 3-4 euros. That's 250-300 rubles if that. And here is included the broth of the market and logistics from the factory to it. And wine on tap can be easily bought in a wine store. for 1,5-2 euros. At the factory, even less.
                      The cost price at a plant that produces millions of bottles a year and homemade homemade products differ not only at times, but by orders of magnitude
                      1. garri-lin
                        garri-lin 20 June 2021 17: 22
                        0
                        How much excise tax per liter of wine in Russia?
                      2. Liam
                        Liam 20 June 2021 17: 23
                        +1
                        I have no idea, but I doubt more than in Italy or France
                      3. garri-lin
                        garri-lin 20 June 2021 17: 39
                        0
                        It turns out that in a liquor store you can buy wine for 2 euros. And there will be included both the excise tax and the profit of the store and the profit of the plant. And what remains for the production process itself. A penny?
                      4. Liam
                        Liam 20 June 2021 17: 43
                        0
                        Of course a penny ... just multiply these pennies by a dozen other million bottles.


                      5. garri-lin
                        garri-lin 20 June 2021 18: 03
                        +1
                        I do not like to find fault with someone else's goods, but it does not taste purely like wine. Fortified Kampot. Or, to put it simply, a wine product. I have only an indirect relationship to wine.
                      6. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 20 June 2021 17: 48
                        0
                        This is the price of regular table wines and not very good ones. Natural but from cheap raw materials and low aging. The grapes are also different. Plus, the more prestigious the brand, the higher the price.
                      7. Liam
                        Liam 20 June 2021 17: 56
                        +1
                        Naturally, they do not pretend to be exclusive, but work purposefully on this segment of the population. And among the top five world producers, by the way. Everything is strict with the quality, any bottle can be traced through life - where, when, which grapes, at which plant, etc. .No chemistry or other dyes.
                        I just gave as an example how the cost price can differ between large and private.
                        You won't be able to produce a liter of wine at home for such a price, even if you just mix the water with alcohol and dye
                      8. garri-lin
                        garri-lin 20 June 2021 18: 04
                        0
                        And the grapes grow by themselves? Without kilograms of fertilizers?
                      9. Liam
                        Liam 20 June 2021 18: 12
                        0
                        Quote: garri-lin
                        And the grapes grow by themselves? Without kilograms of fertilizers?

                        ))) Of course, it grows itself. This is laid down by nature. And fertilizers ... robots with HC lamps have been used for a long time to destroy parasites and others

                        Mechanization and automation reduced manual labor to a minimum
                      10. garri-lin
                        garri-lin 20 June 2021 18: 15
                        0
                        Well, I have not heard about the lamps. But in the absence of fertilizers I will not believe it.
                      11. Liam
                        Liam 20 June 2021 18: 33
                        -1
                        Probably it does not have such a strong effect on the final cost. Otherwise, they would have gone bankrupt long ago. They are not a state-owned enterprise.
                      12. garri-lin
                        garri-lin 20 June 2021 18: 49
                        0
                        I'm not talking about the cost, but about the final product. Here's an example. In a good year, I harvest more than 50 kg of grapes from a good vine. If in the spring I throw saltpeter at the root before the rain, then the wine from those grapes will have a heavy hangover. There is a hundred gram of saltpeter in the juice. And what is the result. Only cow manure is suitable for fertilizer. In the fall, after collecting around the roots of the fossa, the copaesh, not close, and rotted fill. Fertilizers have an effect on the final product.
                      13. Liam
                        Liam 20 June 2021 19: 56
                        0
                        Quote: garri-lin
                        In a good year, I harvest more than 50 kg of grapes for a good vine.

                        By the way ... what kind of grapes and what kind of technology do you have, what do you need as much as 3 kg of grapes for 1 liter of wine?
                      14. garri-lin
                        garri-lin 20 June 2021 21: 18
                        0
                        The vines are old. Isabella and Kacic. The last 10 percent is roughly. Everyone is over 40 years old. And the proportion just happens. Plus minus. While you will crush while fermenting. Elementary, after draining, the wine ferments in open bottles. The sediment goes away. So from a 20 liter bottle up to 3 liters of sediment can be.
                      15. Liam
                        Liam 20 June 2021 22: 45
                        0
                        Quote: garri-lin
                        While you will crush while fermenting. Elementary, after draining, the wine ferments in open bottles. The sediment goes away. So from a 20 liter bottle up to 3 liters of sediment can be.

                        At wineries, 1 kg of grapes yields approximately 0,75 liters of wine. You need to reconsider the technology)
                      16. garri-lin
                        garri-lin 21 June 2021 00: 01
                        +1
                        So it is in factories. Just for fun, buy a kilogram of grapes and try to squeeze 0,75 liters of juice out of it. And suddenly it will come to the understanding that wine is so different from a wine product. My wine is grape juice, naturally fermented without any additives.
                  2. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 20 June 2021 17: 45
                    0
                    300 is still at least since there is still logistics, excise tax, EGAIS. Storage, retail margin.
      3. minus
        minus 20 June 2021 09: 27
        +2
        Not just Chinese alcohols. From the same Baku oil refinery .... And they trade openly in five-liter bottles of alcohol and still products without excise stamps can be found .... I'm not talking about powdered beer and artificial wine, all with the addition of alcohol ... And from expensive vodka often the consequences are terrible .... For 18 years - *** From the materials of Rosalcohol it follows that out of 118 thousand decaliters of vodka, 36,3 thousand (30,8%) were in illegal circulation. In just a year, more than two million decaliters of ethyl alcohol, alcoholic and alcohol-containing products were checked. More than 40% of this alcohol turned out to be illegal. *** And in three years it did not get any better ... The same wines that appeared on sale seem to be like Crimean swill, disgusting ... But a large number of very wealthy people in our time people who have switched to homemade products, including beer, are known ...
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 20 June 2021 09: 37
          0
          I spoke only about legal turnover. Protection of products now is such that you can buy illegal alcohol only knowing exactly what it is. Risking your health on purpose. Buying it is not clear where. Of course, homemade is always better, but it's more of a hobby) it's getting better, believe me. Now the hole from the Republic of Bashkortostan has closed almost through which such swill passed and in such quantities from Poland ...
      4. ANB
        ANB 20 June 2021 14: 58
        0
        ... that a good wine cannot cost less than 300 rubles per bottle stupidly in terms of costs.

        A decent dining room 250-300 is quite affordable. I don’t risk taking it cheaper, only if it’s already tested for the action.
      5. Ryazan87
        Ryazan87 20 June 2021 16: 10
        +2
        Well, in terms of wine 300, this is not even good, but simply a fundamentally lower limit. Any acceptable wine now starts at 700 rubles.
        However, it is always interesting to hear about "powder" wine. Also ask about the technology and production cost of such a "powder".
        1. garri-lin
          garri-lin 20 June 2021 16: 33
          0
          Dye for 10 liters 50 rubles
          A good flavor is a little more expensive. 1,5 liters of alcohol. A liter of real wine for the aftertaste. Sugar to taste.
          1. Ryazan87
            Ryazan87 20 June 2021 18: 20
            +3
            Using the described technology, a slightly diluted and colored alcohol is obtained - sorry, then it is easier to forge cognac, brandy and whiskey (which is very actively engaged in). Color, alcohol, flavor. By the way, the money will be much more profitable. "Wine" thus falsified - like removing tonsils by the rectal method.
            1. garri-lin
              garri-lin 20 June 2021 18: 41
              +1
              For the assortment. Wow, I've seen enough of such alchemists. Along the Black Sea coast. If a person wants a liter of cognac and 5 liters of wine. Then he just stllko and will be sold. And nothing that is mixed in one pan in turn.
    3. Boris55
      Boris55 20 June 2021 10: 20
      +1
      Quote: U-58
      But here's a moronic implementation of these, start,

      It is impossible to win the 5th management priority on the XNUMXth (power) priority. The lower ones are always underlined by the higher ones.

    4. Fat
      Fat 20 June 2021 14: 40
      +1
      They all killed coupons for vodka and smoke. You like it, you don't like it, but you need to buy goods. Father, having passed Stalingrad, never lit a cigarette. He helped out at a difficult moment with his norm. Teshsha worked in the printing house named after M. Gorky. The whole house was supplied with a "leftist" for sausage from the latitude of the soul .. Everyone was killed, you say?
      But self-esteem
      in passing, donated by the advice not to kill anyone now and never. And there is nothing worse than such a reaction. The current Moselpromites know and rightly fear. ... ... ... ...
    5. sniperino
      sniperino 22 June 2021 15: 20
      0
      Quote: U-58
      Gorbachev was right in his endeavors.
      But here's a moronic implementation of these, start, inability to track the situation and make corrections
      These are signs of the absence of an effective management system (= power vertical). In a monarchy, the vertical of power is transferred by the right of succession to the throne. The problem is seen in the fact that the USSR failed to cope with the task of building democracy by the people, and the communist oligarchy with the Politburo at the top and corrupt communities of local "princelings" at the bottom was alien to the ideals of socialism and communism. Building socialism, Stalin, before his death, made an attempt to transfer power to the Soviets, but, probably, he did not have enough strength.
  8. Borz
    Borz 20 June 2021 05: 41
    +9
    "Vodka is poison! For thirty years I have been drinking it, and I feel it is poison! Burn it, mother taku-shaku!" (Artyom Vesely, quote from the novel "Russia Washed in Blood")
    1. Fat
      Fat 20 June 2021 07: 06
      +5
      "And how do non-party people drink this filth?"
      Soviet folklore
  9. Xlor
    Xlor 20 June 2021 05: 56
    +13
    Already six years ago I switched to my own alcoholic drinks - vodka, peppercorns, nutcrackers, various tinctures, liqueurs and whiskey. There are even three barrels in which I hold whiskey and bourbons ... I gave up the shop shit for a long time - I only drink my own
    1. SERGE ANT
      SERGE ANT 20 June 2021 06: 10
      +14
      I gave up the shop shit for a long time - I only drink my own
      Ours is better, of course! We did not abandon this business even under the Soviet Union, and as it was gone, even those who never started doing it. After all, how many people have poisoned, horror! And it is its own - a quality guarantee!
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 20 June 2021 10: 13
        +9
        ... and under the Soviet Union this business was not abandoned ...

        And even a movie was shot. laughing Do you remember the luxurious Gaidaevsk "Moonshiners"? drinks
    2. ANB
      ANB 20 June 2021 15: 01
      +3
      ... There are even three barrels in which I incubate whiskey

      And whiskey from barley malt, smoked on peat, drive?
      Triple distillation?
  10. Moore
    Moore 20 June 2021 06: 31
    +6
    [/ Center]
    EXTRA: Eh How It Became Difficult For Russian Alcoholics
    4 rubles 12 kopecks, if I'm not mistaken ...
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 20 June 2021 13: 53
      +2
      Quote: Moore
      EXTRA: Eh How It Became Difficult For Russian Alcoholics
      4 rubles 12 kopecks, if I'm not mistaken ...

      Yo-mine! Exactly! There was such a vodka ... and the "decoding" of this name was well known! Eh, I forgot ... getting old ... sclerosis is progressing! crying By the way, at the same time there was talk that Kolos vodka would appear soon (Kosygin Stop Lyonya ...
  11. andrewkor
    andrewkor 20 June 2021 06: 34
    +5
    For some reason, the dear Author did not mention the Soviet "Russian" vodka, which I personally highly respect (!). She had a special "bouquet" if that definition can be applied to vodka.
    When I first got to the Kremlin Palace of Congresses for the concert of the ensemble I. Moiseev (1979) I was stunned by the size of the banquet hall, which occupied the entire area above the auditorium !!!
    1. Fat
      Fat 20 June 2021 08: 26
      +4
      Oh, leave. Any significant event for some reason starts with a buffet table.
      (We omit the ceremonial part as unpopular) Very difficult moment
      We had to choose who was responsible. As a result, out of 14 meters of exhibition space, 2 squares were occupied by a kandeyka, where the unfortunate person could take a break from righteous communication.
  12. serg.shishkov2015
    serg.shishkov2015 20 June 2021 06: 38
    +8
    maybe I'm so * lucky *? first a classmate told me that in her opinion a person who does not even drink champagne is not a person at all! and then a colleague-teacher said- * It would be better if you drank vodka, and not bought books! *
  13. north 2
    north 2 20 June 2021 07: 18
    +10
    Now I'm going to mix everything here, like in a cocktail at a bar.
    Well, first I will tell you about the Finns. I have been to Finland many times and I can say. that as much as the Finns drink, and no one drinks as much. All Finland starts drinking on Friday night. They drink on Saturday. On Sundays they don't take a drop, and on Monday everyone who is sober as a glass to work. And until Friday evening, all of Finland is practically sober. It is possible that the conception of children happens among Finns on Fridays or Saturdays, because I don’t know how much of this vodka you need to drink in order to make love to a Finn. Those who saw the Finns will understand me here ... Maybe because of this the Finnish men drink.
    Let's share about the Soviet era. I don’t know about Stalin’s or Khrushchev’s times, but under Brezhnev, drunkenness became the norm everywhere. Except that the students in the schools did not drink. And firing a drunkard from work was not so easy. Both the head of the shop and the party organizer would get a hat right away. Because the drinker did not have to be fired, but the whole team had to be re-educated. Even the officers on duty drank, to be honest. I won't even write about the madhouse under Gorbachev.
    Let's eat my cocktail about today. They began to drink so much less. that I don’t even recognize Russia. In fact, they do not drink even where it was simply impossible not to drink in Soviet times. Go now to the resorts of Sochi or the Caucasian Mineral Waters. You won't see those who drink there now. Although there were so many people before the pandemic that it was impossible to pass through. And now they don't go to work with a hangover, not to mention what to drink at work or in military service. So what did a Russian man need so that he would not abuse alcohol? Okay there Finn, their women are terrible and sober you will not love. But Russian women are so solid beauties, just admire with sober eyes and love. This means that the Russian man needed the opportunity to earn and have everything he was capable of, despite the fact that he knew that if he drinks, only because of this he will not have any of this ...
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 20 June 2021 08: 04
      +5
      Quote: north 2
      Even the officers on duty drank, to be honest.

      In Soviet times, in our part it was Saturday - a park-economic day, they called a vodka-bath stick day. In the morning after the divorce and the setting of tasks, the personnel were taken to work and began to think over a glass, before dinner, the bathhouse in part - another glass and go home to please their beloved wives. Most importantly, there were no drunks, no one got drunk, it was considered unacceptable to be drunk on duty. Everything changed in the 90s, he himself drove drunks home from service. As I don’t know now, I haven’t served for a long time.
      1. north 2
        north 2 20 June 2021 08: 44
        -2
        Quote: Anatole Klim
        Quote: north 2
        Even the officers on duty drank, to be honest.

        In Soviet times, in our part it was Saturday - a park-economic day, they called a vodka-bath stick day. In the morning after the divorce and the setting of tasks, the personnel were taken to work and began to think over a glass, before dinner, the bathhouse in part - another glass and go home to please their beloved wives. Most importantly, there were no drunks, no one got drunk, it was considered unacceptable to be drunk on duty. Everything changed in the 90s, he himself drove drunks home from service. As I don’t know now, I haven’t served for a long time.

        Drinking in the morning is wild bad manners. Drinking in the morning for no reason, explaining that the reason is Saturday, this is already alcoholism. To be glad that after two glasses of vodka in the morning the officers on duty are only drunk, but not drunk, this is already the degradation of the army. And if you take into account the fact that in the military units the officers drank not vodka but awl, that is, mostly undiluted alcohol, then I would have seen how such an officer would look for dinner, having passed two such glasses from morning to lunch ...
        1. Mooh
          Mooh 20 June 2021 11: 47
          +6
          The joke was this: how does a Soviet officer differ from a British one? The British are blue-shaven and slightly drunk, while the Soviet is blue-shaven and slightly shaven.
        2. Anatole Klim
          Anatole Klim 20 June 2021 13: 53
          +2
          Quote: north 2
          Drinking in the morning is wild bad manners

          What institute for noble maidens were brought up in?
          Drinking in the morning for no reason, explaining that the reason is Saturday, this is already alcoholism.

          Drinking two glasses of vodka once a week already alcoholism? Are you a narcologist? rather a coded ex-drunk, offended by his fate.
          in military units, the officers drank not vodka but awl, that is, mostly undiluted alcohol, then I would have seen how such an officer would look for dinner, having passed two such glasses from morning to lunch

          Where did you even serve? You have the knowledge that the officers drank only from modern films, where alcohol flows like a river and each officer has a canister of alcohol in the store. I can’t speak for the aviation and the navy, but we saw alcohol in the artillery once a year, it was given out for routine maintenance. Before the exercises, maybe a certain amount of alcohol was deposited by the commanders and chiefs, but ordinary officers spent everything on equipment, because failure of equipment in an exercise is the end of a career. I have the honor! ,
          1. north 2
            north 2 20 June 2021 20: 41
            +1
            Quote: Anatole Klim
            Quote: north 2
            Drinking in the morning is wild bad manners

            What institute for noble maidens were brought up in?
            Drinking in the morning for no reason, explaining that the reason is Saturday, this is already alcoholism.

            Drinking two glasses of vodka once a week already alcoholism? Are you a narcologist? rather a coded ex-drunk, offended by his fate.
            in military units, the officers drank not vodka but awl, that is, mostly undiluted alcohol, then I would have seen how such an officer would look for dinner, having passed two such glasses from morning to lunch

            Where did you even serve? You have the knowledge that the officers drank only from modern films, where alcohol flows like a river and each officer has a canister of alcohol in the store. I can’t speak for the aviation and the navy, but we saw alcohol in the artillery once a year, it was given out for routine maintenance. Before the exercises, maybe a certain amount of alcohol was deposited by the commanders and chiefs, but ordinary officers spent everything on equipment, because failure of equipment in an exercise is the end of a career. I have the honor! ,

            you cannot speak not only for the aviation and the navy, you cannot even speak for the ground forces, because not all the officers of the ground forces while on duty drank two glasses of vodka on Saturday mornings. I will say more, I am even sure that in your artillery military unit there were only a few of them. By the way, the cry "I have the honor" sometimes spews out some along with the fumes ... before that, the one who did not join their company in the morning to drink vodka, calling it "a narcologist" or "a coded former drunk."
        3. ANB
          ANB 20 June 2021 15: 07
          +4
          ... that in military units the officers drank not vodka but awl, that is, mostly undiluted alcohol

          No no. Shiloh was always diluted. For a liter of alcohol, one and a half water and shake well. Knock out the snake at least 3 times.
          We deviated from this recipe only once, when a commission from Moscow was sitting and we could not get them drunk in any way. I had to breed one to one and deprive snacks.
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 20 June 2021 14: 17
      +3
      Still, there were bright periods in the life of a Russian drunkard! I remember that I managed to visit Moscow shortly after the Olympics-80 ... A young "northerner", money "burns his thigh" ... Babbling! Cognac "Remy Martin" for 25 re ("nonsense" price for a "northerner"!), Portuguese port in "eateries" (dumplings, cheburek ...) ... and wonderful Finnish liqueurs from northern berries! How I got hooked on them then! How I yearned for them when the Finnish liqueurs ran out already "at home" in the "northern territory"! Then I had to "invent" homemade liqueurs ...: lingonberry, cranberry, redberry, cloudberry ... Fortunately, then we had excellent quality and inexpensive syrups from northern berries on sale! (Now it's not that! Syrups from northern berries are still on sale; but compared to the "past" - this can be called a fake!) These syrups were diluted with vodka or alcohol in a certain proportion ... for a certain time ... and got liquor no worse than Finnish! fellow And there was also a time when wine shelves in stores were filled with Portuguese port wine even in our city ... (this happened after the victory of the "Portuguese revolution" ... the USSR then decided to support it!) And after Chernobyl in our "northern" city Hungarian compotes, mixed vegetables, dried fruits and excellent Hungarian vermouths, cherry liqueurs appeared "in a multitude"!
  14. parusnik
    parusnik 20 June 2021 07: 34
    +6
    In one of the issues of the Inventor and Rationalizer, somewhere in the early 80s, pre-perestroika for sure, the article was about non-alcoholic wine, which was developed in Georgia. The photo was interesting. On the hood of the traffic police car there is a bottle of non-alcoholic wine, a snack and gaytsy with ordinary drivers they drink it. smile
  15. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 20 June 2021 08: 02
    +6
    Another cheap vodka, which for some reason was popularly called "Crankshaft", cost 3 rubles 62 kopecks.
    Vodka was called "Crankshaft" for the peculiar placement of letters on the label.
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 20 June 2021 09: 04
      +6
      Vodka was sold on tap in Lviv in the mid-70s. Small shops were called "Rumochnaya". They sold a set of 100 or 150 grams of vodka, optionally and a sandwich with sausage / sprats / goal. cheese + a glass of tomato juice. It was worth such a pleasure from 1 ruble. 30 kopecks There were no queues, everything was neat and clean.
      1. Avior
        Avior 20 June 2021 10: 49
        +8
        Wine glasses in the USSR were not only in Lviv, they were quite common in other cities. The system was similar - a glass of vodka with a sandwich.
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 20 June 2021 23: 19
          +1
          Quote: Avior
          Wine glasses in the USSR were not only in Lviv, they were quite common in other cities. The system was similar - a glass of vodka with a sandwich.

          And we once had "wine glasses" ... on Torgovaya street (there was a rumor that it got its name because there were many shops and wine glasses on the street ...) Sandwiches with salmon and red caviar ...
  16. Olgovich
    Olgovich 20 June 2021 08: 06
    -4
    Weak and incompetent politicians who came to power

    that's for sure: it was under the thieves that the most shameful plundering and massive multi-day drunkenness took place during the plundering of the wine cellars of the Winter Palace.

    At the same time, the author is modestly silent that Zimny ​​himself was partially plundered, and besides, the portraits of the drunken "winners" had their eyes pierced, leather seats were cut from the chairs, oak boxes with valuable porcelain were pierced with bayonets, the most valuable icons, books, miniatures, etc. were scattered across the floor of the palace.

    In January 1920, the Council of People's Commissars decided to allow the sale of wine with a strength of up to 12 degrees. Then the allowed wine strength was increased to 14, and then to 20 degrees. from January 1, 1924, vodka began to be sold in the country again

    the degree of "happiness" of the people by the Bolsheviks was constantly increased by alcohol in order to flood his eyes against the background of wild devastation and mass starvation.

    At the same time, soldering was deliberately cynically used by the regime as a source of money : there wasn’t enough brains for something else.

    The author was ashamed to cite key the provisions of the alcohol policy of the Bolsheviks, although they are absolutely necessary to understand why the USSR eventually became the world leader in alcoholism and diseases associated with it.

    Stalin:
    By the way, a few words about one of the sources of the reserve - about vodka. There are people who think that socialism can be built in white glovesx. This is a gross mistake, comrades. ...

    Which is better: the bondage of foreign capital, or the introduction of vodka — that was the question before us. Clearly we settled on vodka, because we considered and continue to believe that if we for the victory of the proletariat and peasantry, we have to get a little dirty in the mud,- we will go for it too ..

    Now vodka generates more than 500 million rubles in income.

    Give up vodka nowand, therefore, give up this income


    Stalin, September 1930, in the SNK:
    "Need to to increase (extremely possible) the production of vodka. Necessary cast off false shame and straight, openly go to the maximum increase vodka production to ensure a valid and serious national defense... Keep in mind that the serious development of civil aviation will also require a lot of money, for which, again, you will have to appeal to vodka. "


    in how: the defense of the country, aviation, the budget of "skillful" leaders depends on vodka. The fact that the population is dying, families and health are crumbling is not interesting.

    And so it was until the very end of the power of the "craftsmen"

    The author is silent that in 1941, generally brutal vodka began to enter 50, 56 grams, generally turning people into zombies. Everything to increase "happiness", yes ..

    At the same time, vodka (the most harmful swill) has always remained the cheapest and most accessible swill made of alcohol.

    From 1940 to 1980, the population grew by 30%, and the production of poison grew by 700% (DMN Uglov), alcohol flowed like a river, was sold everywhere and was available to absolutely everyone

    And this is a crime of the authorities, which, unable to fulfill their promises, covered their problems and failures with poison ...
    1. bk0010
      bk0010 20 June 2021 13: 46
      -1
      Quote: Olgovich
      that's for sure: it was under the thieves that the most shameful plundering and massive multi-day drunkenness took place during the plundering of the wine cellars of the Winter Palace.
      Duc, the crystal bakers robbed, the Februaryists, so to speak. Then they had not yet realized that they should be fought with all revolutionary ruthlessness.
      Quote: Olgovich
      At the same time, soldering was deliberately cynically used by the regime as a source of money: there was not enough brains for something else.
      We learned from the kings.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 21 June 2021 07: 28
        -2
        Quote: bk0010
        Duc, the crystal bakers robbed, the Februaryists, so to speak. Then they had not yet realized that they should be fought with all revolutionary ruthlessness.

        The thieves robbed, mutilated, tore pictures and monuments, shit on the parquet and cut out the skin and materials. from furniture
        Quote: bk0010
        We learned from the kings.

        to the tsars before you - as to Moscow like: under the tsar, they introduced dry law, with you, the people were poured with vodka up to their nostrils.
        1. bk0010
          bk0010 21 June 2021 20: 51
          -1
          Quote: Olgovich
          The thieves robbed, mutilated, tore pictures and monuments, shit on the parquet and cut out the skin and materials. from furniture
          No, they were the crystal bakers and the anarchists. And the Bolsheviks just stopped the orgy.
          Quote: Olgovich
          to the tsars before you - as to Moscow like: under the tsar, they introduced dry law, with you, the people were poured with vodka up to their nostrils.
          And under the Bolsheviks, a dry law was introduced. And remember about the anti-alcohol campaign. And the tsars began to solder the people. Even teetotal uprisings were suppressed. And they didn’t give the people a drink just because people didn’t have enough money for that.
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 22 June 2021 08: 44
            0
            Quote: bk0010
            No, they were the crystal bakers and the anarchists. And the Bolsheviks just stopped the orgy.

            no, it was during the bone-crunching
            Quote: bk0010
            And under the Bolsheviks, a dry law was introduced. And remember about the anti-alcohol campaign. And the tsars began to solder the people. Even teetotal uprisings were suppressed. And they didn’t give the people a drink just because people didn’t have enough money for that.

            have you read the article? Nope.

            The Bolsheviks abolished it since 1920
            Quote: bk0010
            And remember about the anti-alcohol campaign

            you will hack on your forehead: by 1980, in 40 years, alcohol production had increased by SEVEN HUNDRED percent.
            Not the production of 700% more food, not clothing, not housing, not schools, but DRUGS for the people, INSTEAD of food, clothing for housing.
            Quote: bk0010
            And they didn’t give the people a drink just because people didn’t have enough money for that.

            you made the people drunk, you managed it, how you managed to produce hundreds of thousands of non-worthy people born by alcoholics, how you managed to become the world leader in alcoholism.
            1. Foul skeptic
              Foul skeptic 22 June 2021 09: 22
              -1
              Not producing 700% more food, not clothing - INSTEAD of food, clothing.

              Why are you repeating with enviable persistence the statements, the fallacy of which was shown to you in some of the earlier discussions?
              1) You were shown that alcohol production did not increase by 700%
              2) You were shown that the increase in the production of other food products was higher than that of alcoholic beverages.
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 22 June 2021 09: 24
                0
                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                1) You were shown that alcohol production did not increase by 700%

                lie
                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                ) You were shown that the increase in production of other food products was higher than alcoholic beverages

                lie
                1. Foul skeptic
                  Foul skeptic 22 June 2021 09: 29
                  0
                  Because it is more convenient for you to consider my words a lie - they are not a lie.
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 22 June 2021 09: 42
                    0
                    Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                    Because it is more convenient for you to consider my words a lie - they are not a lie.

                    Because it is more convenient for you to consider my words about your lie a lie - they do not become a lie
            2. Foul skeptic
              Foul skeptic 22 June 2021 11: 32
              -1
              1) Write down how many liters of alcohol was produced in terms of pure alcohol in 1940 and 1980.
              2) Write down how much food was produced by type in kg in 1940 and 1980.
              I think there is no need to remind you that the numbers that you write, you will explain in which document you took and provide this document.
              Ну you undoubtedly have these numbers, since you write so confidently
              you will hack on your forehead: by 1980, in 40 years, alcohol production had increased by SEVEN HUNDRED percent.
              Not producing 700% more food

              PS in Uglov's report there are no numbers that I ask for
  17. Unknown
    Unknown 20 June 2021 08: 39
    +12
    A double feeling from this topic. It seems that he says the right things, but it smoothly comes down to Russian drunkenness, like they always drank a lot, and this is a national trait. But what about the others? For example, the same Europe? There they drank just hold on, even when you read “Three Musketeers, you are amazed, sober, they didn’t do one thing.
    In Germany, they also did not differ in sobriety
    Just like England
    And even now in Europe they drink more of our
    Here the author writes, during the Second World War, vodka was given out at the front, so they got used to it, and after the war it went off. Do not understand that there can be such life situations until you wave a gram so 100-150, do not let go, what rolled, fear, stress, etc. Almost everyone drinks, but not all drink too much. They are going in the company to roll out half a liter or even a liter, they will speak out, what has accumulated in their souls, for the sake of communication. There is nothing terrible in this. But it also happens in another way, a person does not drink for a month, another, half a year, a year, then once and broke, he will not stop. He calls, asks to bring a hangover. You come, lies in a pile, waving a pile, and again sleeps, so a month. What is the point so plump? Is there a disease? Some are susceptible to this phenomenon, others are not. No treatment helps, it feels like a person is just waiting for everything to end, and he will come off in full. Alcoholic beverages began to be made in the era of the 10th millennium BC. uh, and still. At all times, they talked about the dangers of alcohol, about the consequences of frequent use, and they did it anyway, and they will do it. So it is necessary, humanity cannot do without it.
  18. Prisoner
    Prisoner 20 June 2021 08: 39
    +9
    I read about the People's Commissar's one hundred grams and remembered the story of a fellow villager, a front-line soldier. Five countrymen got into one rifle regiment, he returned alone. Explained this alignment in one word, they drank. The village is Tatar, Islam prohibits the consumption of alcohol. The four became like everyone else, but he remained a teetotaler. Although he treated religion without fanaticism. I remember the Order of the Red Star and Glory of the third degree and medals. He was already an old man when he was awarded the Order of the Patriotic War of the first degree.
  19. Undecim
    Undecim 20 June 2021 08: 43
    +12
    One of the first high-profile actions of the new government was the operation to destroy the richest collection of alcoholic beverages stored in the cellars of the Winter Palace, carried out in November 1917. Hundreds of barrels of vintage wines, thousands of bottles of champagne and many large tanks filled with alcohol literally fell on the Bolsheviks' heads. Rumors about these riches spread throughout the capital, and now crowds of marginalized people regularly organized "raids" on the Winter Palace. The soldiers' guards themselves took an active part in the "tasting". One of the Petrograd newspapers described one of these raids as follows:

    This newspaper - "In the Dead of Night", issue of November 26 (old style), 1917.

    And a note about the wine cellars of the Winter Palace.

    Objectively, the events around the wine cellars of the Winter Palace are taken out of the context of historical events, since the drunken pogroms in Russia, which began not in October, but immediately after the February Revolution, have nothing to do with the traditions of alcohol consumption.
    Simply covering the scope and significance of drunken pogroms in the Russian political process between February and October 1917 is somehow not popular with modern Russian historians.
    But the drunken pogroms that swept after the seizure of power by the Bolsheviks are relished with all the details, the wine cellars of the Winter Palace are especially popular, although similar phenomena occurred throughout the country and a drunken pogrom, for example, in Samara, which lasted continuously for three days from May 1 to May 3 1917 in grandeur far surpassed the events in the Winter Palace.
    1. SERGE ANT
      SERGE ANT 20 June 2021 09: 07
      +10
      From "Untimely Thoughts" by M. Gorky
      “For almost two weeks now, every night crowds of people have been robbing wine cellars, getting drunk, hitting each other on the head with bottles, cutting their hands with shards of glass and like pigs lying in the mud, covered in blood. of course, hundreds of millions will be exterminated.

      If this valuable commodity were sold to Sweden, we could get for it in gold or goods that the country needs - manufactory, medicines, cars. People from Smolny, realizing a little late, threaten severe punishments for drunkenness, but drunkards are not afraid of threats and continue to destroy goods that should have long been requisitioned, declared the property of an impoverished nation and sold profitably, for the benefit of all.

      During wine pogroms, people are shot like mad wolves, gradually accustoming them to calm extermination of their neighbors. In Pravda they write about drunken pogroms as a "provocation of the bourgeoisie" - which, of course, is a lie, this is a "catchword" that can increase bloodshed. "
      It was difficult to stop the elements of drunkenness and drunken pogroms, for more than a month this problem was a headache for both the Petrograd Military Revolutionary Committee and the Soviet government. On November 19, the Military Revolutionary Committee, at the suggestion of the Council of People's Commissars, pastes another "Appeal" around the city, which clearly says: "There will be no wine in Petrograd." The appeal, which, in fact, has the force of a decree, is addressed mainly to ordinary people. For the first time in Soviet history, the authorities call drunkards and thieves of alcohol ... enemies of the people. In essence, a dry law was introduced.
      similar phenomena occurred throughout the country and a drunken pogrom, for example, in Samara, which lasted continuously for three days
      On one scale or another, it was practically all over the country.
  20. tatra
    tatra 20 June 2021 09: 08
    +5
    Under the USSR, they drank a lot and with pleasure, then one benefactor of the enemies of the communists Gorbachev set up practically a "dry law", their other benefactor is drunk Yeltsin, began to deliberately get people drunk, set up booths with alcohol in almost every home, and in them it was possible to buy around the clock alcohol. Now alcohol consumption has dropped dramatically, because under cruel capitalism, being a drunkard is practically death. But there are places where drunkenness is ineradicable. Managers drink a lot, so I worked in the Moscow theater named after Yermolova, which is directed by Oleg Menshikov - after each performance there was a booze, after the premiere - a grandiose booze, Menshikov the year before last at the commemoration of actress Nazarova got so drunk that he was hospitalized with alcohol poisoning.
  21. Undecim
    Undecim 20 June 2021 09: 08
    +7
    In 1923, at the June plenum of the Central Committee, on the initiative of Stalin, the question of abolishing the "dry law" and introducing a state monopoly on the sale of vodka was raised. The opponent of the general secretary and here was Trotsky, who called the legalization of vodka "one of the most unworthy moments in the history of the party."

    From the "Political report of the Central Committee to the XIV Congress of the CPSU (b)" I.V. Stalin on December 18, 1925:
    "By the way, two words about one of the sources of the reserve - about vodka. There are people who think that it is possible to build socialism with white gloves. This is a gross mistake, comrades. If we do not have loans, if we are poor in capital and if, besides , we cannot go into bondage to Western European capitalists, we cannot accept those enslaving conditions that they offer us and which we rejected, then one thing remains: to look for sources in other areas. It's still better than enslavement. between bondage and vodka, and people who think that it is possible to build socialism with white gloves are cruelly mistaken. "
  22. Olgovich
    Olgovich 20 June 2021 09: 14
    -5
    After Stalin's death, the situation began to change for the worse. Khrushchev himself loved to drink, and did not consider alcohol abuse as a great sin.


    and Stalin, it turns out from the author, believed.

    Here you just have to remember the very frequent nightly "dinners" at Stalin's, which lasted 6-8 hours, during which alcohol poured like a river and many drank themselves to a bestial state.

    At lunch there were peppercorns, vodka, brandy, champagne, large quantities of Georgian wines - "Tsigistavi", "Ojaleshi", "Tsolikauri", "Mukuzani", "Kindzmarauli", "Khvanchkara" and others; as well as Armenian and Azerbaijani - "Areni", "Artashag", "Norashen", "Madrasali", "Aghstafa" ... The same Anastas Mikoyan recalled Stalin's invitations to the dacha, where he was traveling "with a heavy feeling", "because he knew that you will have to drink a lot, and strong drinks. The "owner" himself preferred semi-sweet Georgian wines.

    Konev, Kaganovich, Shtemenko, Khrushchev and Molotov also recalled that for Stalin to get guests drunk was a familiar part of the program (c)
  23. Undecim
    Undecim 20 June 2021 09: 29
    +7
    The cheapest "half liter" was sold for 2 rubles 87 kopecks. It was "Moscow special" vodka, made according to the pre-revolutionary recipe of 1894.

    Here the author is mistaken. Only the name was pre-revolutionary. The recipe was developed in 1936.
    1. Avior
      Avior 20 June 2021 10: 59
      +4
      The vodka production technology has changed dramatically.
      Before the revolution, it was made by distillation in a distillation still, modern vodka is obtained by distillation in distillation columns, followed by a decrease in the degree by dilution with water.
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 20 June 2021 12: 13
        +4
        Before the revolution, it was made by distillation in a distillation still, modern vodka is obtained by distillation in distillation columns.

        In Russia, from about the second half of the 1895th century, rectification was also used. And 350 state-owned wineries, laid down at the suggestion of Witte after the restoration of the state monopoly in XNUMX across the country, have already fully used rectification.
  24. north 2
    north 2 20 June 2021 09: 40
    +5
    Quote: tatra
    Under the USSR, they drank a lot and with pleasure, then one benefactor of the enemies of the communists Gorbachev set up practically a "dry law", their other benefactor is drunk Yeltsin, began to deliberately get people drunk, set up booths with alcohol in almost every home, and in them it was possible to buy around the clock alcohol. Now alcohol consumption has dropped dramatically, because under cruel capitalism, being a drunkard is practically death. But there are places where drunkenness is ineradicable. Managers drink a lot, so I worked in the Moscow theater named after Yermolova, which is directed by Oleg Menshikov - after each performance there was a booze, after the premiere - a grandiose booze, Menshikov the year before last at the commemoration of actress Nazarova got so drunk that he was hospitalized with alcohol poisoning.

    Gorgeous your comment.
    On my own behalf, I will add that these so-called "cream" of society have now begun not just to drink, but to drink like black. Moreover, they ate vodka and the "cream" of Soviet society, but not so publicly at the then corporate parties. Such booze could then be reported to the top to those who sat higher and did not participate in such a booze because of their high position, they had their own private corporate parties, and then they would not say hello. And now the booze of the rich and the "cream" is a confirmation of their high image, a confirmation that they are in sight and on top, that they are allowed to do everything. Which is the admission to this society of the so-called "cream"
  25. astra wild2
    astra wild2 20 June 2021 10: 21
    +1
    Valery, colleagues, hello. This is a very interesting topic, but now I have no time to run on business. But then I will be blissful.
    1. Korsar4
      Korsar4 20 June 2021 13: 22
      +1
      I leaf through the topic and drink kvass. Is there a catch?
  26. Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 20 June 2021 10: 26
    +7

    Here, on my last birthday I drank a Moldovan port wine of 1982 - probably the last bottle in the world! I bought it in Chisinau, where she stood alone on the counter - for the equivalent of 20 euros. It was the last one found in their basements during a general cleaning. Then the customs officers almost took it away, then it stood for a long time, waiting for the DR - and then I took a sip of the memory of the Soviet Union, where I was born and became an Octobrist!
    It was a pity to drink in the literal sense of the word a newcomer from the past, but for whom it is easy now .. The sensations are excellent!
    1. Liam
      Liam 20 June 2021 10: 51
      +1
      Quote: Bolt Cutter
      Here, on my last birthday I drank a Moldovan port wine of 1982 - probably the last bottle in the world! I bought it in Chisinau, where she stood alone on the counter - for the equivalent of 20 euros. This was the last one found in their basements during a general cleaning.

      Calm down ... so good in bulk
      Here is a bottle for sale with number 240 of this brand



      And you don't need to go anywhere for this



      https://wine.md/vinuri-ialoveni-heres-shervin-tare-reerve1995-2729
      1. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 20 June 2021 10: 53
        +6
        Calm down ..
        I'm calm. Just good memories, love of history.
        1. Liam
          Liam 20 June 2021 11: 02
          -2
          Such a dramatic export story the last in the world bottles of port, found in a dark closet during general harvesting and almost smuggled out in a deadly battle with evil taming customs... Or they could have just clicked from a computer to purchase one of the many thousands of bottles of this rarity with home delivery by courier.
          PySy.Judging by the price, you were cheated on the campaign and foisted on an unoriginal counterfeit
          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 20 June 2021 11: 07
            +5
            You were cheated on a hike and lent an unoriginal counterfeit
            In the official store of a wine company, highly unlikely. But online is just a counterfeit place to be. In general, I liked the adventure itself, coupled with the hotel, which has not been renovated since Soviet times, as a journey through time. The wife was generally delighted with the "Soviet exoticism".
            1. Liam
              Liam 20 June 2021 11: 08
              -1
              Quote: Bolt Cutter
              coupled with a hotel that has not been renovated since Soviet times

              And where did you find such a hotel in Chisinau?
              1. Bolt cutter
                Bolt cutter 20 June 2021 11: 09
                +2
                Directly opposite the memorial to the revolutionary Kotovsky.
                1. Liam
                  Liam 20 June 2021 11: 09
                  -1
                  ))) Could you specify
                  1. Bolt cutter
                    Bolt cutter 20 June 2021 11: 11
                    +3
                    Why do you need it? If you are a citizen of Chisinau, then you must know that Soviet high-rise building.
                    The Cosmos Hotel, says the archive.
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 20 June 2021 11: 24
                      -1
                      Of course I know ... You will be surprised, but the spaces of the post of the USSR are literally packed with high-rise buildings built during the USSR. Quite a cheap hotel for not particularly wealthy comrades.
                      Couldn't afford to spend on a decent hotel?
                      1. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 20 June 2021 11: 35
                        +5
                        So I came to Chisinau for "Soviet chic" I recalled my childhood and showed it to my wife.
                        could afford to spend on a more decent hotel?
                        "Hilton Chernobyl" - together with the tour - about 1300 pounds per room for two per night.
                      2. Liam
                        Liam 20 June 2021 11: 43
                        +2
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        So I came to Chisinau and came for "Soviet chic

                        Well, yes, there are such tours for lovers of the Soviet exotic.
                        An indispensable attribute of such tours is the purchase by a gullible tourist of different original gadgets Type of a rotary phone from which which thread the first secretary called when he stopped at this very number and indispensable accidentally found last a bottle of what a rarity of that era) .This gives gullible customers an unforgettable experience of touching era , which they then share with friends, neighbors and Soforum residents.
                      3. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 20 June 2021 11: 46
                        +4
                        The type of rotary phone from which the first secretary called which thread
                        Already there - stole from an abandoned base. Wow, I don't know who called him.
                        unforgettable impressions of touching the era,
                        Delivered the drinking of the product.
                        An offended Moldovan is an inexhaustible source of stench laughing
                      4. Catfish
                        Catfish 20 June 2021 12: 52
                        +3
                        Alex, hello! hi Why are you wasting time on him, he can't live without a stench. Chisinau pasta, well, symbiosis! Probably not a single Italian toilet can withstand it. laughing
                      5. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 20 June 2021 13: 00
                        +3
                        Good day Konstantin !! You gotta talk to your own personal troll! In addition, in communicating with them, it turned out that I was a beggar - I still think where the computer came from wassat
                      6. Catfish
                        Catfish 20 June 2021 13: 05
                        +2
                        You should not communicate with him, for him, communication with others is just an attempt to get rid of the surplus of his own trash, there is no need to help him in this. Charity should still have some boundaries. smile drinks
                      7. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 20 June 2021 13: 09
                        0
                        I know! I don’t like to just leave questions unanswered. Online charity boundaries can be stretched ... and a little fun - I'm young (inside).
                      8. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 20 June 2021 13: 24
                        +2
                        Friends gave it?
                      9. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 20 June 2021 13: 38
                        0
                        A beggar Balt found under the fence laughing where did such friends come from? I am starving, I catch hedgehogs.
                      10. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 20 June 2021 15: 03
                        +3
                        Useful skill.

                        Theoretically, there is a lot of protein in the larvae of stem pests.
                        But he did not conduct experiments.

                        "Their professorship is ready for war" (c).
                      11. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 20 June 2021 13: 49
                        0
                        the spaces of the post of the USSR are literally crammed with high-rise buildings built during the USSR. Quite a cheap hotel
                        Can I have one address in Latvia, Lithuania or Estonia?
      2. astra wild2
        astra wild2 20 June 2021 14: 13
        0
        I heard about it and thought: maybe scammers?
        1. Liam
          Liam 20 June 2021 14: 20
          -1
          Quote: Astra wild2
          I heard about it and thought: maybe scammers

          As they say in such cases, you can't make out without a hundred grams)
          But it's certainly not an exclusive rarity for 20 bucks. It's only from an overabundance of feelings that you can self-hypnosis
    2. Catfish
      Catfish 20 June 2021 12: 45
      +3
      Eh ... "Moldavian" is like a time machine. I envy. smile drinks
      1. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 20 June 2021 12: 56
        +1
        So I wanted it, my wife first said, "drag it yourself," I agreed, and then said, "let's go to your DR (when I already brought the fundel to London) I waited, I don't regret it. My father drank this at the service ...
  27. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 20 June 2021 10: 49
    +3
    The author did not mention the world-famous Russian alcoholic tradition - the soldering of bears.
    How wonderful they later play the balalaikas sitting on Red Square.
    Again, not a word about a drunken hedgehog. No, the topic has not been disclosed by the author!
    1. BAI
      BAI 20 June 2021 15: 41
      +4
      What is the soldering of bears? Stick to him, not vodka!

      Although "Especially the national hunt" - yes, they gave the bear a drink.
  28. Avior
    Avior 20 June 2021 10: 52
    +7
    For some reason, the author did not provide a graph of alcohol consumption by years - this would very clearly show at what moments there was an increase in consumption

    There are two pronounced growths - under Brezhnev and Yeltsin.
    1. Liam
      Liam 20 June 2021 11: 58
      -2
      Quote: Avior
      alcohol consumption graph by year

      In fairness ... this schedule does not convince. Especially during the war years. Then tens of millions of front-line soldiers daily consumed a large amount of alcohol, the very same People's Commissars. And judging by the schedule, this is almost one of the most "quiet" periods
      1. Avior
        Avior 20 June 2021 12: 19
        +3
        People's Commissars - not such a huge amount of alcohol
        100 grams a day is three liters a month, 6 bottles of vodka, not such a huge dose for a man
        It was not given to everyone and not always
        Even on the front lines.
        And about the schedule - here is a similar one
        https://ruxpert.ru/Потребление_алкоголя_в_России
        Maybe both are misleading, I won't insist. I've seen this one many times. But if you give your version, be sure to look
        1. Liam
          Liam 20 June 2021 12: 33
          0
          Quote: Avior
          that's three liters a month

          This is 36 liters per year ... a huge amount. And according to the schedule, 2 liters per year. In the rear, they also drove not exclusively tea. This is not taking into account that huge territories and tens of millions of people are outside the boundaries of Soviet power and accounting systems. vodka in stores ... then who could buy? The poor population and ration cards for everything. Everyone drove home brews or the black market for those few who had money. What kind of statistics with such introductory statements ... Although to a lesser extent, this situation was in the 30s and in the post-war years. At least some sense of statistics had somewhere since the beginning of the 60s
          1. Avior
            Avior 20 June 2021 13: 43
            +2
            The People's Commissars did not give it all the time - only on the front line, and not the whole army was on the front line
            Everyone on the front line was given a short period of time in the initial period, then only those who were on the offensive, the rest on the front line on holidays. There is nothing to say about 100 grams per shot down from the pilots - there is generally minimal consumption.
            As for the rear, if vodka was given by ration cards, then at least not everyone could buy at commercial prices.
            As for moonshine, the schedule does not take into account how they write. And I do not know how real it was and whether the Police were driving.
            On the other hand, I have not seen any supporting documents for the schedule.
            1. Liam
              Liam 20 June 2021 13: 52
              0
              I personally see from this graph that as soon as the statistics became more or less reliable (late 50s-early 60s), the numbers immediately exploded and the curve grew steadily. And this is in the "golden age" of Soviet life. When these indicators usually decrease compared to periods social upheavals and wars, which by the way is confirmed by the explosion of consumption in the 90s. During the period of 30 and 40, people experienced such shocks and stresses that have never been before or after. Therefore, the figures for that period cannot be correct a priori.
              1. Avior
                Avior 20 June 2021 15: 34
                +2
                It is possible that some of the alcohol during the war did not get into the statistics, since it did not go through trade, for example
                Even more doubtful are the times of the Civil War and after them. Official consumption is minimal
                But they drank for sure, moonshine "for temporary use" :)))
                But in general I don't see big mistakes
                Moonshine, by the way, was consumed and driven both in the 70s and in the 80s and in the 90s
                1. Liam
                  Liam 20 June 2021 15: 44
                  0
                  The explosive growth in alcohol consumption in the Brezhnev period cannot be explained by any other reasonable reasons, except for the unreliability of the statistics of the previous period. The people drank robustly and before that, probably even more. For many reasons, they did not really buy alcohol in stores, well, or only took a smaller part from there. .And with the rise in living standards under Khrushchev / Brezhnev, they began to allow themselves to buy better quality drinks, and this was already going into statistics
  29. Moskovit
    Moskovit 20 June 2021 11: 07
    +6
    I remember the Gorbachev years. The men went to liquor stores with axes in their bags - often novice racketeers tried to take away vodka near the store. As boys, we climbed everywhere and saw people drinking hairsprays (punctured cylinders were lying around), BF glue, colognes, Cucumber lotion ... Such a nightmare ...
    1. Liam
      Liam 20 June 2021 11: 47
      -6
      Quote: Moskovit
      I remember the Gorbachev years. The men went to liquor stores with axes in their bags - often novice racketeers tried to take away vodka near the store. As boys, we climbed everywhere and saw people drinking hairsprays (punctured cylinders were lying around), BF glue, colognes, Cucumber lotion ... Such a nightmare ...

      Well this is how it was necessary to degrade in order to come to this and poison yourself like that
    2. Alien From
      Alien From 20 June 2021 12: 10
      +2
      Someone shakes BF on a drill, someone drives moonshine to the authorities in spite of (C) gr Gas sector, early 90s
    3. vladcub
      vladcub 20 June 2021 15: 08
      +1
      BF-6 I remember him. "Triple cologne", and "cognac" Medicinsky "- drops of hawthorn
  30. populist
    populist 20 June 2021 12: 25
    +2
    There is a very good book on the topic of alcohol consumption in the USSR by Academician F.G. Catch - "Captive of Illusions" 1985
    1. aglet
      aglet 21 June 2021 10: 43
      0
      "There is a very good book on the topic of alcohol consumption in the USSR"
      moscow-cockerels erofeev
  31. phalanger
    phalanger 20 June 2021 13: 46
    +1
    * Wheat * I remember, it was excellent vodka
    1. Fat
      Fat 20 June 2021 15: 16
      +2
      Rubbish product. They preferred Russian. Cheaper and safer laughing
      Therefore, they did not hurt. They drank Russian, smoked Java and loved their girls selflessly.
      Because our grandchildren are wonderful, not tolerant
    2. Castro Ruiz
      Castro Ruiz 21 June 2021 22: 12
      0
      I also thought it was very tasty.
  32. astra wild2
    astra wild2 20 June 2021 14: 00
    +3
    "the crime was mainly going:" stray prostitutes "in our entrance knew several friends. They traveled to Vyborg 2 times a year to" earn money. "We whispered among ourselves that they were" pumping up "drunken Finns.
  33. Nurdom.
    Nurdom. 20 June 2021 14: 32
    +5
    At the end of the last century, I lived in one of the Baltic republics. My father served there. Of course, everyone drank, but the Russians are clearly fewer than the locals. You won't see drunk people in the military town. In the countryside, the locals drove the moonshine in buckets. With all the strictness of the law of those years, bottled moonshine could be bought even in the city on the market.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 20 June 2021 17: 17
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      ... You won't see drunk people in the military town.
      And then at Vitalik's metal disassembly (behind the store) on the table the head of the explosive rocket stood ... I also lived in the military town karosta. I dragged my prey there as a youngster laughing
      1. Nurdom.
        Nurdom. 22 June 2021 11: 16
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        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        ... You won't see drunk people in the military town.
        And then at Vitalik's metal disassembly (behind the store) on the table the head of the explosive rocket stood ... I also lived in the military town karosta. I dragged my prey there as a youngster laughing

        Father served in military unit 90450
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 22 June 2021 11: 21
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          I am not on duty - I was born there and moved to my parents during the collapse of the USSR.
          1. Nurdom.
            Nurdom. 22 June 2021 11: 37
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            I was born there too, and we moved during the collapse when the unit was disbanded, everything was abandoned, and my father was transferred to the center of the country to some kind of land unit.
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 22 June 2021 11: 45
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              We had nowhere to go and there was no reason to stay there, and then I left for England, where I live.
              1. Nurdom.
                Nurdom. 22 June 2021 11: 53
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                We spent another five years in the garrisons and after the retirement of the pope settled in the suburbs.
                1. Bolt cutter
                  Bolt cutter 22 June 2021 11: 55
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                  As I think, what would have happened if I had stayed in the then Soviet Ukraine ...
                  1. Nurdom.
                    Nurdom. 22 June 2021 12: 20
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                    I do not know. At the beginning of the XNUMXs, I went to see my father's brother in Kiev. It was nice. And then he died, and we did not maintain a relationship with his family ...
                    Of course, horror. The people there went a little dull, and this Crimea was given to us ... DPR, LPR ... Everyone quarreled with everyone, plus a pandemic. The era of change, her mother.
                    1. Bolt cutter
                      Bolt cutter 22 June 2021 12: 27
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                      to Kiev. It was nice.
                      Before the pandemic, my wife and I flew to Kiev from London for the weekend - cheaper than spending them there in London.
                      and this Crimea was given to us
                      It is always better to take territory than to give it away. And there has never been a smell of Ukraine either.
                      1. Nurdom.
                        Nurdom. 22 June 2021 12: 41
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                        It smelled, did not smell, which is now. Another heavily dated and subsidized depressed area. I will definitely not go there to rest.
                      2. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 22 June 2021 12: 47
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                        I will definitely not go there to rest.
                        This harshly dated area is strategically important. Subsidized Kamchatka also for emissions, or what?
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                      5. Nurdom.
                        Nurdom. 22 June 2021 13: 10
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                        I continue my treatment.
                      6. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 22 June 2021 13: 12
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                        I wish you success. And under Ukraine in Crimea, methadone was free wassat
                      7. Nurdom.
                        Nurdom. 22 June 2021 13: 27
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                        I had severe cancer. They were treated with chemistry and immunosuppression. With suppressed immunity, people sit on non-contact. Pain is relieved with horse doses of rather heavy drugs. Is this clear? So I was treated in Moscow to the point that I died. In a state of clinical death, I was put into a cryostat, cooled to 34 degrees with a penny, and transferred by plane to Israel. There were kind people who took out a lot of money for this. In Israel I was revived and cured. I am now in deep remission. Every year I have to come there for examination and preventive treatment. Is this also clear? This is the period right now. I'm a little stuck here because of the war and the crown. Either the beds in the oncology departments were occupied, or the shelling of Hamas interfered ...
                      8. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 22 June 2021 13: 32
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                        ... Is this clear?
                        I studied at the medical school, so yes, quite. Only this is not narcology. Well, okay, let's go.
                        we ourselves have not climbed anywhere.
                        If you don't climb anywhere, then it turns out that there is nowhere else to climb. And it was not by such methods that Russia was enlarged beyond the limits of a small piece of land to the Moscow region.
                      9. Nurdom.
                        Nurdom. 22 June 2021 13: 41
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                        I am now on a piece of land with half of the Moscow region. There was no water, no oil, there were enemies all around, in the south there was a rocky desert, in the north there were malaria swamps.
                        We ought to live the way the people live here now. How they are treated, how they work, how they help each other, how they fight the enemies. I see it with my own eyes, I feel it on myself.
                      10. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 22 June 2021 13: 47
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                        If they had not recaptured this piece with a weapon in their hands, what would have happened?
                      11. Nurdom.
                        Nurdom. 22 June 2021 14: 06
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                        If we didn’t climb here, if we didn’t feed Arab parasites for 30 years, didn’t drive billions of weapons, didn’t create the PLO with our own hands, wouldn’t train any scoundrels in our military camps, wouldn’t feed at our expense for years and years, Jews here would have lived like Christ in the bosom. In spite of the wars, they have advanced science, medicine, and electronics, and the life expectancy here is 82 years - they created Paradise on earth.
                        I envy them with white envy.
                      12. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 22 June 2021 14: 09
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                        If we didn't climb here,
                        Kneel before them wassat
                        created Paradise on earth.
                        Good friends live - no, not heaven there. A developed country, a successful economy, but far from PARADISE.
                      13. Nurdom.
                        Nurdom. 22 June 2021 14: 16
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                        They are not blacks. You don't need to kneel.
                        So here is capitalism. Paradise will not be for everyone. But the one who studies and works will achieve his goal. And the thugs will not squeeze out his business and the police will not put on the counter. With these deeds, a merciless war is being waged here. The punishments are serious, so that it was discouraging. Yes, simple robots do not fatten at the minimum wage, but still, in general, they live here a hundred times happier than us. Because they look ahead all the time. So they say, tomorrow will be even better. And I believe them.
  34. vladcub
    vladcub 20 June 2021 15: 04
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    0,25 we called it: "chakushka", and until the 17th it was called "kosushka".
    "Bastard" - 100grm capacity.
  35. bandabas
    bandabas 20 June 2021 15: 25
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    I remember in the mid-90s my former classmate accompanied the Finns as an interpreter from Petrozavodsk to Leningrad. XNUMX days in the hotel "Pribaltiyskaya" - soundly lol !
  36. BAI
    BAI 20 June 2021 15: 34
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    The raw material for the production was pears (mainly volunteers), and the extract of grape "combs" was added to the alcohol solution.

    And if you drive vodka not from sawdust,
    So that we had 5 bottles?
    This is with Vysotsky.
    And here is life:
    Shatursky district, vodka factory. The plant is fenced with reinforced concrete slabs. But outside the fence is a pond. In which instead of water - rotten potatoes. Trucks drive up, dump potatoes there, it rots and the slurry flows by gravity to the plant (i.e., the mash is obtained naturally, including in winter - from rotting heat), where it is distilled. purified, get alcohol and ultimately - vodka. (They said, and I was convinced in practice that there are vodkas that "stand" in the throat, then Shaturskaya "stands" with a stake from the stomach to the throat).
    So that's it. Local drunks tied a canning can to a long stick, diluted the slurry in circles to drain what was cleaner and consumed it as alcohol. Despite the smell.
    Something like that.
    The end of 70's.
  37. astra wild2
    astra wild2 20 June 2021 16: 00
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    Valeriy, colleagues, I'm here: "kettle" - is double distillate worse than ordinary vodka or better?
    And another question: alcohol consumption in the 70s in the world. Are there such numbers? Zulka, somewhere heard that the Soviet Union in alcohol consumption was 3-4 in the world?
    1. garri-lin
      garri-lin 20 June 2021 16: 55
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      Distillation is always better than richtification. Softer and healthier. He's alive. And the rich certificate is essentially a chemical industry. And if the distillation process is approached correctly, then the harm to the body will be minimal. With a moderate consumption of the product, of course.
      1. astra wild2
        astra wild2 21 June 2021 07: 25
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        "with moderate use" there will be no harm from everything. My friend drinks peroxide! Truth in small quantities
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 21 June 2021 08: 25
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          You can also have kerosene .... in small quantities. laughing As for cyanides .... in small quantities, there is no such confidence. bully
          1. astra wild2
            astra wild2 21 June 2021 11: 01
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            I don’t know about cyanide, but about arsenic it’s real. Katka said that there was a great variety of arsenic in Napoleon's hair.
        2. garri-lin
          garri-lin 21 June 2021 09: 02
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          There can be benefits from the right alcohol.
  38. vladcub
    vladcub 20 June 2021 16: 11
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    "Golden Fleece" I heard about it, but never tried it. Comrades, did anyone try it, and if so, what does it look like?
  39. xomaNN
    xomaNN 20 June 2021 16: 59
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    In Leningrad, the Finns were then called "four-legged friends."


    Precisely, we, students of the Leningradskaya Korabelka in 73-79 years in the DND observed "brigades of drunken dates." But they have already been dealt with by "specially trained people". And the fartsa went smartly with them wassat
  40. dgonni
    dgonni 20 June 2021 19: 32
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    I understand that the author took the boy?
    For in normal society it is impossible to carry such nonsense!
    I have lived it all and I remember!
  41. depressant
    depressant 20 June 2021 21: 15
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    I don’t remember such heat. Even in 2010. The air is motionless. High humidity due to wet soil. Lush greenery. Someone is driving a ball on the asphalt. Peaceful quiet conversations. Swallows screech high above.
    Will someone's hand reach for the glass?
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 21 June 2021 06: 28
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      In 10th everything was harsher; my hand didn’t reach out, even on Friday.
      Good morning Lyudmila Yakovlevna!
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 21 June 2021 06: 45
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        I will add that in the 10th the situation in the country was calmer. But now? And now many of us are faced with a choice. In this case, I somehow do not want to drink, but this is certainly only about myself.
      2. depressant
        depressant 21 June 2021 07: 28
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        Good morning, Seryozha, glad to see you! The alcohol topic does not leave us, does it? )))
        I nevertheless decided to check out the new article of the Author, because there are graphs and some kind of analysis of the phenomenon is possible.
  42. aglet
    aglet 21 June 2021 08: 39
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    the author, it seems, studied the topic in newspapers, and not in primary sources
    "During the celebrations, they tried to put at least one or two vodka bottles on the table along with a bucket or can of moonshine, which they called" scoundrels. "
    moonshine was never put on the table in buckets, or in cans, a capacity of 12 liters was called a bucket, respectively, half a bucket, a quarter (bucket), etc. git is a bottle of vodka with a capacity of 125 grams, it is also a scale
    "Since November 12, 1942, the norms have decreased: soldiers of units conducting direct combat operations or reconnaissance, artillerymen providing fire support for the infantry, crews of combat aircraft on completing a combat mission received 100 grams of vodka. All the rest - only 50 grams."
    received vodka only in parts directly leading the database. the rest did not receive anything
    "Another cheap vodka, which is popularly for some reason called "Crankshaft", it cost 3 rubles 62 kopecks "
    the letters in the vodka inscription were located at different levels, which is why the name
    "There is a legend according to which the new secretary general ordered that for five rubles a person could buy not only a bottle of vodka, but at least processed cheese for a snack."
    this legend appeared only yesterday - a bottle of Moscow and cheese friendship (50 grams), cost 3p 01 kopecks, but in stores this set was sold, long before Andropov, for 3p, that is, a ruble per person
    "In the Severo-Evensky district of the Magadan region, where the" Golden Fleece "was sold, for some reason it was called" wool ""
    nothing surprising - fleece, this is wool
    "Despite the increase in the price of vodka (a half-liter bottle of the cheapest in 1986 cost 9 rubles 10 kopecks)"
    I don’t remember these numbers, but maybe I just don’t remember. but I remember well the ad on the wine-vodka store in Privolnoye: the store is closed forever
    "After that, people did not begin to treat Gorbachev better"
    here I completely agree with the author
  43. ruben morelli
    ruben morelli 21 June 2021 21: 27
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    Drinking wine! You will attain eternal life.
    Wine is the only thing that can restore your youth.
    Divine season of roses, wine and good friends!
    Enjoy a quick moment of your life!
    Poem "Omar Khayyam"
  44. depressant
    depressant 22 June 2021 18: 48
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    In fact, man as a biological species was formed in the conditions of the presence and consumption of alcohol. Have you seen drunken animal feasts in Africa? When the fruit ripens season, many of the overripe fruits fall off and fall to the ground on their own. And those that did not fall off are thrown down one way or another by dexterous, nimble monkeys, or tall giraffes, as if understanding why they are doing this. Well, maybe not understanding, but it looks like that. And now the fallen fruits, carpet covering the grass around the tree trunks, are rapidly fermenting, producing alcohol within themselves. And as soon as this season of fruit fermentation begins, hundreds, or even thousands of animals of all conceivable species, flocking from all over the area, gather under the trees, having no gastronomic interest in each other, and peacefully indulge in eating "drunken" fruits, bringing themselves to a condition characteristic of deep alcoholic intoxication. Here are elephants, and giraffes, and tigers, and monkeys ...
    And this means that our distant ape-like ancestors, prototypes of future bipedal people, and then sapiens, participated in such feasts for millions of years, which could not but affect the tolerance of human organisms to alcohol. It was expressed in the inclusion of ethyl alcohol as a necessary component in our metabolism. And yes, ethyl alcohol is found in the blood of even newborn human babies. In an insignificant amount. But this is enough to create a natural human urge to increase the dose.