The FIU presented an explanation of the rules for accounting for conscript service in the army when calculating pensions

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The Pension Fund of Russia provided journalists with information on the accrual of seniority for the period of military service on conscription.

The commentary of the press service of the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation was presented RIA News... Thus, it is indicated that the conscription service is "estimated" at 1,8 pension coefficient per year. At the same time, it is specified that “on occasion, it is possible to take into account service in the army (the Armed Forces, the structures of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB Border Service and other departments) until 2002. However, "this does not always make it possible to receive the largest amount of pension payments."



Earlier it was noted that in order to take into account the "retirement experience" when forming a pension, taking into account military service, representatives of the PFR have the right to demand from the "applicant" several supporting documents, including certificates from the military commissariat or directly from the military unit where the military service took place.

At the same time, representatives of the fund note that today it is the pension coefficient that is of primary importance when calculating a pension.

Not the most comprehensive explanation, frankly.

It is worth noting that there are still many questions about the calculation of pensions for citizens, including those who served in the army by conscription. Their number increased after the reform, which led to an increase in the retirement age.
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  1. +11
    17 June 2021 06: 25
    I didn't understand anything, but I realized that when calculating the civil pension, I need to remember that I also served in an urgent service!
    1. +7
      17 June 2021 07: 33
      Quote: Finches
      However, "this does not always make it possible to receive the largest amount of pension payments."

      Do not forget, but do not really count.
      1. +3
        17 June 2021 08: 21
        Therefore, not really relying on the FIU, just in case, I earned a military pension. laughing
    2. +2
      17 June 2021 20: 33
      in the USSR, the years of service were simply counted in the length of service, and those who served in the regions of the Far North also received bonuses if they remained to work there after the service.
      1. +2
        17 June 2021 20: 56
        Unfortunately...

        The seashore is no more; the trace of the oaks has fallen cold.
        Oak is good for parquet, but no:
        Hefty goons came out of the hut,
        Chopped those oaks into coffins ... hi
  2. +19
    17 June 2021 06: 33
    so that they all have this reform stuck in their throats
  3. +17
    17 June 2021 06: 51
    Why is a military ID no longer a document, these bureaucrats are annoyed. Will the demobilized album go for a certificate? drinks
    1. +3
      17 June 2021 07: 36
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Will the demobilized album go for reference?

      After a paid examination for the authenticity of the photographs by an organization specially created for this at the Pension Fund of Russia. tongue good
      1. +8
        17 June 2021 07: 41
        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
        After a paid examination for the authenticity of the photographs by an organization specially created for this at the Pension Fund of Russia. tongue good

        And if the military unit was a regime, then the examination will be in the FSB of the Russian Federation ... laughing
        1. Aag
          +3
          17 June 2021 10: 16
          Quote: Lara Croft
          Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
          After a paid examination for the authenticity of the photographs by an organization specially created for this at the Pension Fund of Russia. tongue good

          And if the military unit was a regime, then the examination will be in the FSB of the Russian Federation ... laughing

          There is not much fun here ... The Zakoms, relatives, personally had to deal with - "catch up" documents, certificates on disbanded military units, organizations of the Ministry of Defense ... Imagine that some of them "remained" outside the borders of the Russian Federation ... (((
          1. +2
            17 June 2021 12: 22
            I once served in the SGV.
            In August last year, a letter came from the pensioner, with a proposal to visit the pension fund with a passport, pension certificate and military ID. As a result, they added somewhere around 300 rubles or a little more.
            And they didn't add anything to my friend. There is some kind of system ... to add or not, proceed from the calculation of the basic pension and the coefficient for the deadline.
            1. Aag
              +1
              17 June 2021 19: 51
              This is a soft option ... I will not say, reasoned for military service, - also, cousins, - did not "catch up" with their benefits for military service in the GSVG.
              I will not argue, - from experience, - the mass of possible plots, - starting from the deployment of the unit, to the orders for the military unit (documented by the combat unit of the military unit, - moreover, carried out by orders of higher command bodies) ...
              300 rubles, a little more than two packs of cigarettes.
              ... Sorry, many with this pernicious (no doubt) habit cannot cope (one of them). ((
              .... I apologize for the "off topic" ...
              And on the topic: either you serve without bothering with legal aspects, or, - a master in legal literacy (to the detriment of military service, - there are examples,), or, fork out, feeding lawyers, - in the footsteps of America (no matter how hard it is , but they seem to teach us exactly this ...)
  4. +2
    17 June 2021 07: 34
    Is the coefficient 1.8 a lot or a little? What about the rest of the coefficients? How is the service life expressed in the ruble equivalent of the pension?
    From the article, only the coefficient is clear ...
    1. +4
      17 June 2021 07: 37
      And that is not for everyone and not always.
  5. 0
    17 June 2021 07: 57
    Quote: Canecat
    Is the coefficient 1.8 a lot or a little?

    So as an IP he will receive

    The amount of points for the year = (The amount of paid contributions "for yourself"): (Standard amount of insurance premiums) x 10 (16)
    The maximum amount of insurance premiums for 2020 for an insurance pension will be 1 rubles. This value is determined annually by the Government. Then the standard size of insurance premiums will be: 292 rubles x 000% = 1 rubles. If an entrepreneur pays insurance premiums "for himself" in the amount of 292 000 rubles, then the sum of points for one year he will have - 16.
    And the price of each point is set by the state. Point in 2020 - 93 rubles. in 2021 - 98,86 rubles.
    The pension is calculated according to the formula:
    fixed part + (number of points per year * point value).
    The fixed part is known - 5686,25 rubles. in 2020
    A plus will still be experience.

    Pension for example when leaving in 2020 = 5686,25 + (50 * 93) = 10336,25
    Pension for example when leaving in 2020 = 5686,25 + (30 * 93) = 8476,05

    50-30 = 20 points, if we assume that he worked as an individual entrepreneur, then 20 / 1.5 roughly = a little over 10 years.
  6. +5
    17 June 2021 08: 33
    From the explanations of the PRF, it became quite clear that the PRF is an instrument of genocide of pensioners, including the military. am
  7. +2
    17 June 2021 08: 43
    I spent the entire service on business trips, I can imagine what kind of proof I would need. And the fact that the unit still had a bardachello with documents, I realized a little later When they wrote down the entire service for me that I served in Moscow.
  8. 0
    17 June 2021 11: 19
    In the USSR, a cadet was equated with a conscript. And how is the cadet experience in the officer's pension of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and in the pension of the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation considered?
    1. Aag
      +1
      17 June 2021 21: 37
      If I don't confuse anything, military commissariats (pension departments exist in them) pay pensions to officers. If there are other prerequisites for additional payments, this is: either again to the RVC pension department, (start with questions from him), or in social services. protection (firewood at preferential prices, compensation for housing and communal services, ...)
      Everything changes, quickly, and not for the better ...
    2. Aag
      +1
      17 June 2021 21: 44
      Quote: iouris
      In the USSR, a cadet was equated with a conscript. And how is the cadet experience in the officer's pension of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and in the pension of the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation considered?

      5 years of college, -5 years of experience, length of service.
      It is counted in the total service life, service without increasing coefficients
      Do you want to. to be different?
    3. ANB
      0
      19 June 2021 01: 24
      ... the officer's pension of the RF Ministry of Defense and the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation

      In the officer's office, it is counted as a normal term of service. I retired at 33. 28 years of service.
  9. 0
    17 June 2021 12: 04
    What is there to charge conscripts? They have a monthly allowance of 2000, serve for 1 year. They will receive this 24000 rubles in total. And how much of these 24000 rubles will go to the FIU?
  10. 0
    17 June 2021 16: 34
    The PFR press service commentary was provided by RIA Novosti. Thus, it is indicated that the conscription service is "estimated" at 1,8 pension coefficient per year.(C)
    And how to understand this: 2 years of service will be counted for 16 months of work experience or 2 years of service X 1,8 = 3 years 6 months of work experience? request what
    And further:At the same time, it is specified that “on occasion, it is possible to take into account service in the army (the Armed Forces, the structures of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB Border Service and other departments) until 2002.(C)
    How to understand this: only urgent conscription service or service in these structures as officers of the Ministry of Defense, employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, FSB, etc. will be considered. "I don't understand anything!" (C) belay