Racist demarche: Kiev decided on second-class people

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Source: president.gov.ua

Urgently


The bills of modern Ukraine are heavily involved in the political component.

These are the rules of the game - if there is no opportunity to prove yourself in the economic and military sphere, then all that remains is to politicize everything and everyone. Only now, caution is required. Otherwise, it will turn out, like President Zelensky a few weeks earlier.



On May 18, on the Day of Remembrance of the Victims of the Deportation of the Crimean Tatar People, the President of Ukraine presented a draft law according to which at least the Krymchaks, Karaites and Crimean Tatars receive a unique status of indigenous peoples. There is still no complete clarity with the exact definition of the number of "chosen" peoples. Some sources also point to Ukrainians as representatives of indigenous peoples. Others mention the Gagauz, the Turkic-speaking Orthodox ancestors of the Polovtsians, of whom there are more than 30 thousand in Ukraine. Officially, so far we are talking about the Krymchaks, Karaites and Crimean Tatars.


The Verkhovna Rada is preparing to adopt a resonant law. Source: wikipedia.org

For the ostracism, Zelensky assigned the initiative the status of "urgently" - the Verkhovna Rada was supposed to adopt the law in the first place. Almost a month has passed, the lawmakers are still hesitating, although the chances of the project "On the Indigenous Peoples of Ukraine" to become a valid law are very high.

The main task of the law is not to protect Krymchaks, Karaites and Crimean Tatars, but to provoke.

Zelensky artificially singled out the nationalities into a special caste, thereby defining a special status for the rest. The bill clearly shows the features of racial discrimination. Russians, Belarusians, Moldovans, Hungarians, Jews and other peoples were removed from the indigenous population by the president.

In this regard, the indignation of Vladimir Putin is justified:

"In general, in itself the division into indigenous, first-class, second-class categories of people and so on - it already definitely looks like it, reminds the theory and practice of Nazi Germany."

A representative of an indigenous people, in contrast to a Russian and a Belarusian, can study in specially formed classes in schools. Let us remind you that the Russian language in Ukrainian schools is studied as a foreign language at best. This is when 17% of the population consider themselves to be Russian-speaking. At least, such results are given in the results of the 2001 census of the country.

Scholasticism in Kiev, very smack of racism, says that Russians belong to the category of national minorities. This means not worthy of the benefits and privileges that are intended for indigenous peoples. You cannot build your own schools, you cannot create national media and receive subsidies from the budget to finance social, cultural or representative bodies.

Under the new law, indigenous peoples have

“The right to self-determination, equal legal protection, their political status within the framework of the Constitution and laws of the country, the definition of their national symbols, as well as to free economic, social and cultural development. They are allowed to observe and develop spiritual, religious and cultural traditions and customs, to preserve tangible and intangible cultural heritage. "

Several legitimate questions arise.

First, until May 18, 2021, were the Krymchaks, Karaites and Crimean Tatars deprived of all the above-described "buns"? Did the Ukrainian authorities oppress and persecute representatives of the "indigenous" peoples in every possible way?

The second question - other peoples, for example, Belarusians and Moldovans, in accordance with the logic, are deprived of "equal legal protection" and "the right to free economic, social and cultural development"?

And these are far from the only claims to the bill with a poorly concealed racist essence.

According to the precepts of the Third Reich


As planned, in the West there was practically no reaction to the law that is being prepared for adoption. Of the available comments, the opinion of the former Council of Europe expert Francesco Palermo is of particular interest. In an interview with DW, he says at the very beginning that

“There is no universal definition of the concept of“ national minority ”, this also applies to the concept of“ indigenous people ”.

Let us fix this saying, which allows us to interpret the formulations in accordance with our own interests. In this case, with the interests of Vladimir Zelensky.

Further, Palermo talks at length about the political component of the bill and broadly supports the Ukrainian initiative. But at the end, the former expert criticizes the opinion of Vladimir Putin, pointing to the Russians as a typical national minority in Ukraine. It is a national minority, not an indigenous people. Here, as we can see, there are no problems with the definition and separation of the concepts of "national minority" and "indigenous people" for Palermo. A typical example of the European establishment's double standards in relation to Russia and the Russians.


Schematic diagram of Zelensky's idea. Source: media.slovoidilo.ua

Zelenskiy and his team, when developing the draft law "On the indigenous peoples of Ukraine", did not think everything over very carefully. This is especially true of the criteria for defining indigenous peoples. According to the document, it gets exclusive rights

“An autochthonous ethnic community that has formed on the territory of Ukraine, is a bearer of a distinctive language and culture, has traditional, social, cultural or representative bodies, recognizes itself as an indigenous people of Ukraine, constitutes an ethnic minority in its population and does not have its own state education outside the country ".

And here is the first failure.

The fact is that Krymchaks, Karaites and Crimean Tatars now live mainly in Crimea. This was the idea of ​​the bill - to shout from the territory of Ukraine about the special status of Russian citizens who consider themselves Crimean, Karaites and Crimean Tatars.

Sow, so to speak, confusion and once again remind the whole world of the existence of Kiev power. Indeed, all three peoples are centuries old history associated with the Crimea.

Here Zelensky's team played well. But if you open a history textbook, it turns out that Crimea became part of Ukraine only in 1954. And Ukraine itself is barely 100 years old. When the Crimean Tatars settled in Crimea, there was no question of Ukrainian statehood. It is even more difficult with the Karaites professing their own version of Judaism. According to one version, the nationality originated in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, and only then migrated to the warm Crimea. And if we talk about the fundamental status of the peoples mentioned, then only in relation to Russia. Still, since 1783, the Crimean peninsula felt great as part of the Russian Empire.

Let's move on to the point that obliges the indigenous peoples of Ukraine "not to have their own state education outside the country."

Is this a subtle hint to everyone else that it's time to pack and go to "your own public education"?

The Nazis wanted to do something similar at the dawn of their careers when they invited German Jews to go to Madagascar. But even this is not the main thing. There is not a word about the fate of the Roma in the project “On the Indigenous Peoples of Ukraine”. According to the 2001 census, there are no more than 47 thousand representatives of this ethnic group in the whole of Ukraine. This is a typical national minority, with a distinctive language and culture, which, by the way, is endangered. As far as we know, the Roma also do not have a state education.

Didn't the gypsies happen in Ukraine? Well, the Crimean Tatars with Karaites and Krymchaks also lead their history not from Ukraine.

Why are Roma not on the list of "indigenous"?

Obviously, they enjoy the same "privileges" as their ancestors in the Third Reich.

According to a similar logic, according to Zelensky, the Hungarians who have lived in the Beregovsky district of the Transcarpathian region of Ukraine since ancient times cannot be considered indigenous peoples. Let us also recall the Gagauz people, who are not in the official documents of the law, but they also claim the status of the indigenous peoples of Ukraine. One discrepancy with Zelensky's concept is that they live in the Odessa region, not in Crimea.

If we ignore the racist essence of Zelensky's initiative, then the whole theatricality of what is happening comes to the fore. The law identifying indigenous peoples in territories that do not belong to Ukraine is like a cheap theatrical play, tickets for which are no longer needed.
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  1. +7
    18 June 2021 15: 14
    "... and where to go to the peasant ..", but the "legislators" for sure have determined a place for themselves (in the Maldives) and you (on the bunks) ... you need to talk less, otherwise you will get into the separatists!
    1. -3
      18 June 2021 15: 25
      What do you think it is possible to initiate Zhenya Fedorov under Article 282? For me, Ukraine is a part of Russia laid down by Yeltsin to please his ambitions. There will always be a pepper who wants to cut a piece about Russia in order to rule himself. What will we also consider them a 404 country?
      1. +15
        18 June 2021 15: 30
        It is possible and necessary to excite Volodya Zelensky & K 282.
        1. +6
          18 June 2021 15: 54
          We dispersed and opened the mitten: THEM HAVE MAYDANOVSKAYA IMMUNITY !!! (put the stress yourself ...)
          1. +10
            18 June 2021 17: 22
            The ethnic Jew Zelensky at the top of the Bandera-Nazi junta in the power of modern Ukraine deliberately refuses the Russians to be the INDIGENOUS people in Ukraine, because then, according to the UN Declaration, the Russians then have the RIGHT to all the consequences that follow from this, including SELF-DETERMINATION. At the same time, this is normal international practice. Namely.

            The UN Declaration on Indigenous Peoples in Article 3 states:

            “Indigenous peoples have the right to self-determination. By virtue of this right, indigenous peoples freely establish their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development. "

            In other words, according to the UN Declaration, the genocide of Russians in Ukraine is NOT ALLOWED!
            But it is precisely the policy of the GENOCIDE of official Kiev in relation to the Russians in Ukraine that is the state ideology of Kiev after the Maydan illegitimate STATE REVOROTA in Ukraine!
            Exactly The result of this GENOCIDE policy of the Kiev authorities, carried out against the Russian people and Russian-speaking people in Ukraine, was the separation of Crimea from Ukraine and the formation of the unrecognized republics of the LPR. And not vice versa.

            Russian President Putin is right when he already said about Zelensky's draft law "On the Indigenous Peoples of Ukraine" that the idea of ​​dividing peoples into indigenous and not is reminiscent of the practice of Nazi Germany.

            Why does Zelensky not "understand" this?
            1. Because Kiev, seized by the ethnically national MINORITY of the Bandera-Nazi persuasion and supporters of the anti-Russian party. And Zelensky, in order to stay in power, intends to continue the policy of genocide by the non-Russian ethnic MINORITY against the Russian and Russian-speaking MOST of the population of Ukraine - contrary to the UN Charter!
            2. Because Zelensky himself, like Poroshenko, became a Nazi and a WAR CRIMINAL in Ukraine!

            1. +2
              19 June 2021 18: 12
              What is this? That Ukraine is ruled by a defective president? It's funny, but the cowardly Zelya, in order to appease the Nazis, with one stroke of the pen translated into inferior only millions of fellow citizens, but also himself defective! laughing
        2. +1
          20 June 2021 21: 57
          And that we have everything for the Russians? And here's medicine for you, here's your education, here's your apartment? We are dying out by the age of 50 in Russia there will be as many Muslims as there are Orthodox Christians. You wake up already.
      2. +1
        19 June 2021 07: 16
        Quote: Author
        Racist demarche: Kiev
        decided on the people of the second
        grade

        in Moscow, the Sobyanin fascists also decided on second-class people:
        "Ordinary fascism and spitting on the Constitution: the Minister of Health of Moscow has banned planned hospitalizations and operations for those who are not vaccinated against covid"
        http://katyusha.org/view?id=16931

        Quote: Gardamir
        For me, Ukraine is a part of Russia laid down by Yeltsin to please his ambitions. There is always a pepper that
        wants to cut off a piece about Russia in order to rule himself. What will we also consider them a 404 country?


        in my opinion, for all Russian people this is so, manurts do not count.
  2. +4
    18 June 2021 15: 15
    Ndaa .. This is no longer treated, the case when "only the grave will fix the hunchback."
    1. +6
      18 June 2021 16: 51
      This hunchback is just an actor, the plays are written by the tsrushniki, and they write according to the same Nazi template in all the republics. Soon, in the Outskirts, the Russians will be deprived of the right to vote, as we have in the Baltics, and then all the oligarchs will be crushed so that they leave politics and lose influence.
      They will bring their trained managers from overseas to manage the territory and plunder.
      1. 0
        18 June 2021 17: 40
        and then all the oligarchs will be crushed so that they leave politics and lose influence

        Aha-ahah - are there Russian oligarchs there? Aha-ahah))))
      2. +2
        20 June 2021 21: 58
        Are you eating Heinz products? - Do you know that these are the grandchildren of the Natsiks? And the SS? And nestle ?? And the Mars clan ?? Look in the internet.
  3. +4
    18 June 2021 15: 16
    Several legitimate questions arise.
    The question is, are they completely crazy or are they going to slip somewhere else?
    1. +12
      18 June 2021 15: 20
      It seemed that the bottom had already been broken, but there was a knock from below. This is frank, rabid, terry Nazism. There are no words. Censored.
      1. +3
        18 June 2021 15: 49
        So then suppose, guess what outcome awaits them all ...
    2. +2
      18 June 2021 19: 34
      I thought I fell to the very bottom ... but then someone knocked from the bottom ...
      1. +1
        18 June 2021 19: 46
        As if in a maelstrom with a goal l ... nope, there is no head there.
  4. +9
    18 June 2021 15: 19
    - Russians, Belarusians, Moldavians, Hungarians, JEWS and other peoples were removed from the indigenous population by the president. Russians, Belarusians, Moldovans, Hungarians, Jews and other peoples were removed by the president from the indigenous population.
    Zelensky has officially declared that he is a Jew. The question is, how can a representative of a non-indigenous people hold the office of President?
  5. +6
    18 June 2021 15: 19
    Neither add nor add. Bravo, author
  6. +7
    18 June 2021 15: 19
    Fascist drug addict clown. Will he have time to reach the plane if something happens?
    1. +3
      18 June 2021 15: 28
      Quote: Angry Troll
      Fascist drug addict clown. Will he have time to reach the plane if something happens?

      As Yegor Gaidar once said - "We will not make it in time!"
    2. +2
      18 June 2021 16: 55
      Quote: Angry Troll
      Fascist drug addict clown. Will he have time to reach the plane if something happens?

      If Ze continues this way, then the flight of Yanukovych will seem like an easy walk winked
      1. +1
        18 June 2021 20: 38
        Quote: Clear
        Quote: Angry Troll
        Fascist drug addict clown. Will he have time to reach the plane if something happens?

        If Ze continues this way, then the flight of Yanukovych will seem like an easy walk winked

        Yanukovych would have fled if not for Russia ... Somewhere svidoukry were torn to pieces. like Gaddafi. And the black man, Obama, from the omerika looked at this bloody action with a smile ... "Val! Gut, Karasho!" if anything, the friends of the Omerigi themselves will beat him like the Evil dung fly.
        1. +2
          19 June 2021 08: 46
          Quote: 30 vis
          Quote: Clear
          Quote: Angry Troll
          Fascist drug addict clown. Will he have time to reach the plane if something happens?

          If Ze continues this way, then the flight of Yanukovych will seem like an easy walk winked

          Yanukovych would have fled if not for Russia ... Somewhere svidoukry were torn to pieces. like Gaddafi. And the black man, Obama, from the omerika looked at this bloody action with a smile ... "Val! Gut, Karasho!" if anything, the friends of the Omerigi themselves will beat him like the Evil dung fly.

          What and speech. Yes
  7. BAI
    0
    18 June 2021 15: 20
    The main task of the law is not to protect Krymchaks, Karaites and Crimean Tatars, but to provoke

    This is not a provocation, but stupidity. It takes brains to make a provocation. And in the government of Ukraine, no one has brains. A-priory. Others are not taken there.
  8. +12
    18 June 2021 15: 25
    Bulgakov M.A.
    Russian writer, playwright, theater director and actor (1891-1940)

    "- He is a bastard," Turbin continued with hatred, "after all, he himself does not speak this language!
    BUT? The day before yesterday I asked this by the canal, Dr. Kuritsky, he, if you please see, has forgotten how to speak Russian since November last year. There was Kuritsky, and now there is Kuritsky ... So I ask: how is "cat" in Ukrainian? He answers "whale". I ask: "And how is the whale?" And he stopped, goggled his eyes and was silent. And now he does not bow.
    Nikolka burst out laughing and said:
    - They cannot have the word "whale", because there are no whales in Ukraine, and there are a lot of everything in Russia. There are whales in the White Sea ... "
    1. +2
      18 June 2021 16: 47
      This is a commonplace fable that has long been circulating in Ukraine like an anecdote. In fact, they have a cat, a kit, and a kit, a kit. We don't have a jaguar, so what? We don't have a word like that? Things are much worse here. There are a lot of foreign words in the Russian language, but they try to change everything, create their own language. But it happens the other way around. For example, why, in the presence of a purely Ukrainian "gyntokryl", was it from the 90s to take the Anglo-Polish "helicopter"? Many words have been introduced from the western regions with which we laughed in the South-East. But now it's not funny. Now I want to kill.
      1. -1
        18 June 2021 21: 16
        For example, why, in the presence of a purely Ukrainian "gyntokryl", was it from the 90s to take the Anglo-Polish "helicopter"?

        Gvyntokryl is a rotorcraft, not a helicopter. Another type of aircraft that uses wings in horizontal flight.
        Rotorcraft (heliplane, gyrodin) - a rotorcraft with a propeller (s) which operates (is) at take-off, hover, landing and part of the horizontal flight speed range due to the power of the power plant, and horizontal flight is provided mainly due to the wing and, usually, the propeller (s), independent of the rotor system (s). [1]

        Helicopter is an international term
        the name "helicopter" was borrowed from the French language (fr. hélicoptère) already at the end of the 2th century [XNUMX]. In French, in turn, the word is created from the roots of the Greek language (Old Greek ἕλιξ, genitive ἕλικος "spiral, screw" and πτερόν "wing").

        The helicopter in the USSR became a "helicopter" at the suggestion of Kamov, who, in order to stand out, applied it to his autogyro, and after that it became synonymous with the word helicopter, and then replaced it in the USSR. Prior to this, the international term helicopter was perfectly used in the USSR.
        hi
        1. +1
          19 June 2021 09: 10
          A helicopter is a complete characteristic of a vertical take-off vehicle. Do you know what legal restrictions in France on the use of foreign words in the press, literature? There is no such thing anywhere in the world!
          1. -1
            19 June 2021 09: 27
            In technology, there is a huge number of international terms that, as a rule, originated in one country. Rather, the exception is not an international term, but an internal one than a rule, including in France.
            One of them is a helicopter.
            A helicopter is a complete characteristic of a vertical take-off vehicle.

            The "helicopter" appeared, because Kamov needed to draw attention to his design, a good move, by the way. But it was an autogyro, and the new word was gradually picked up by a different apparatus. This is a well-known story.
            The authorship of the word "helicopter" (from "turns" and "flies") belongs to NI Kamov [3]. The earliest document in which the "helicopter" is used is the Minutes of the meeting of the Technical Commission of the Central Council of OSOAVIAKHIM chaired by B. N. Yuriev, dated February 8, 1929. The meeting of the Commission was devoted to the consideration of the KASKR-1 autogyro project by engineers NI Kamov and NK Skrzhinsky.

            This is the first "helicopter"

            Vertically, by the way, he could not take off, like other gyroplanes.
            Then Kamov later applied the same word to the coaxial scheme - to the Ka-8.
            It was a way to draw attention - everything is made by gyroplanes and helicopters, and Kamov is made by helicopters. Nice thoughtful move on his part.
            hi
  9. +4
    18 June 2021 15: 27
    Russians, Belarusians, Moldovans, Hungarians, Jews and other peoples were removed from the indigenous population by the president.

    Well, Zelensky painted everything like clockwork, but here's what to do with Rusyns, Romanians, Poles, and indeed with Western Ukrainians, who until 1940 were not part of the Russian Empire and the Ukrainian SSR. They are not the indigenous peoples of Ukraine.
  10. -17
    18 June 2021 15: 31
    So-so little article. Not really. There are many conjectures. We need to see what is written in the Russian law about indigenous peoples.
    1. +16
      18 June 2021 15: 36
      Article 69 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation 1. The Russian Federation guarantees the rights of indigenous peoples in accordance with generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation.
      2. The state protects the cultural identity of all peoples and ethnic communities of the Russian Federation, guarantees the preservation of ethnocultural and linguistic diversity.
      3. The Russian Federation provides support to compatriots living abroad in exercising their rights, ensuring the protection of their interests and preserving the all-Russian cultural identity. There is also the Federal Law of April 30.04.1999, 82 N 13.07.2020-FZ (as amended on July XNUMX, XNUMX) "On guarantees of the rights of the indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation" Read heaven and earth with Nazi lawmaking ze.
      1. -9
        18 June 2021 17: 49
        The unified list of indigenous small-numbered peoples of the Russian Federation was approved by the decree of the Government of the Russian Federation dated March 24, 2000 No. 255 [1], and also changed in accordance with the decrees dated October 13, 2008 No. 760 [2], dated May 18, 2010 No. 352 [3 ], June 17, 2010 No. 453 [4], September 2, 2010 No. 669 [5], December 26, 2011 No. 1145 [6], August 25, 2015 No. 880 [7].

        https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Перечень_коренных_малочисленных_народов_России

        There are no Russians, no Ukrainians, Crimean Tatars, Karaites, Krymchaks in it.
        There is not a single nation in this list that has statehood.
        That is, the law in Ukraine is not fundamentally different from Russian legislation.
        But look, with what pathos it is carefully blurred in the article, so that none of the readers would think and compare the Ukrainian law with the Russian one.
        This is simply called manipulation of the minds of the readers.
        Even easier, they threw it on the fan.
        And what, it turned out ...
        Another wedge was driven between the Russians and the Ukrainians.
        Divide and conquer, they didn’t come up with it yesterday, the technologies are used up, the people are being led. It's a pity:(((
        1. +8
          18 June 2021 18: 14
          You are the one who manipulates. This list is given for the constituent entities of the Russian Federation with the number. For what? For small peoples to preserve their identity and traditions, in the first place.
          The legislation of the Russian Federation on guarantees of the rights of indigenous peoples is based on the relevant norms of the Constitution of the Russian Federation and consists of this Federal Law, other federal laws and other regulatory legal acts of the Russian Federation, as well as laws and other regulatory legal acts of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation.
          Article 3. Scope of this Federal Law
          1. This Federal Law applies to persons belonging to small peoples, permanently residing in places of traditional residence and traditional economic activity of small peoples, leading a traditional way of life, carrying out traditional economic activities and engaged in traditional trades.

          This is an excerpt from the Federal Law on the basis of which the List was developed. Further, in order to poke you into your manipulation, the List is not compiled by the federal government, but heads of constituent entities of the Russian Federation, they also indicate the number of small peoples.
          And now a comparison, one provision from the Ukrainian law from the article - they can be trained in their native language. A Russian-speaking can ??? Are you worried about Zelensky because you are a Jew? And now you are trying to "whitewash" your not clever comparison? Watch the videos with his promises about the Russian language before the elections? And what did he do?
          1. -3
            18 June 2021 19: 19
            The list is approved by the federal government, which I wrote about, so poke yourself, not me.
            Do you think what is written in the Ukrainian version of the law?
            Something other?

            development of ethnical, cultural, modern and religious self-confidence of all indigenous peoples of Ukraine, according to the Constitution of Ukraine and laws of Ukraine, international treaties of Ukraine,

            The same is recorded.
            In all other respects, the law does not fundamentally differ from the analogous Russian
            Of the law.
            There is nothing of which the article is heavily covered - fascism and so on - this law is not even close.
            So, the usual sketch is to play off the Ukrainians with the Russians once again: ((((
            1. +6
              18 June 2021 19: 54
              Quote: Avior
              So, the usual sketch is to play off the Ukrainians with the Russians once again: ((((


              Sketch? And nothing that in Ukraine, there is an infringement of the rights of the Russian-speaking population, they were forbidden to speak Russian, study, receive information, services, etc. although the majority of Russian-speaking people have lived in Ukraine for generations ... well, well, (Ze) does not want to give the status of an indigenous people to Russian-speaking citizens, but so put the legislation in order and stop the repression ... The Russian language is artificially ousted from all spheres of life ... why not give people the right to choose? Especially the South-Eastern regions of Ukraine? + Donbass should not be forgotten, because it was precisely such actions of the authorities that pushed people to secede from Ukraine.
            2. +4
              18 June 2021 20: 21
              Sketch? Is it guaranteed that Russian speakers will receive education in their native language? You manipulate as well as the BBC correspondent on the GDP press approach in Geneva. The same style. Zelensky promised before the elections that there will be no oppression of the Russian language? Did he fulfill it? Russia adopted its own law to preserve the identity of the peoples, Ukraine adopted to oppress the Russian-speaking.
            3. +2
              18 June 2021 20: 24
              First, you will understand the concepts of the Federal Government and the Heads of Subjects, and then poke around with Russian legislation. I am not a belmes in Israeli and I don’t climb there, unlike you. The list and number of small and indigenous peoples lies on the conscience of the heads of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, not the federal government.
              In Ukraine, "indigenous peoples" are guaranteed education in their native language under a new law. Why are the rights of the Russian language infringed upon? Where are Zelensky's election promises? This is not ethnic oppression, not Nazism?
              1. -5
                18 June 2021 20: 59
                the list of indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation was approved by the decree of the Government of the Russian Federation

                sorry, you figure it out
                actually it was a quote



                DECISION
                Government of the Russian Federation

                March 24, 2000 No. 255 "On the Unified List of Indigenous Minorities of the Russian Federation"

                In pursuance of the Federal Law "On guarantees of the rights of the indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation", the Government of the Russian Federation decides:
                1. To approve the attached Unified List of Indigenous Minorities of the Russian Federation (hereinafter referred to as the Unified List), prepared by the Ministry for Federation and Nationalities of the Russian Federation ....

                http://www.demoscope.ru/weekly/knigi/zakon/zakon047.html
                1. +2
                  19 June 2021 08: 55
                  Are you verbalizing - who is responsible for compiling the List itself? The government approves the proposed by the heads of the subjects. For the restriction of the Russian language in Ukraine and the nationalist Jewish president, for some reason, they kept silent.
                  You are not keeping your position as a lawyer in the Bandera country. In the comments on your fingers, they explained to you the differences in the laws of the Russian Federation and Ukraine.
                  1. -2
                    19 June 2021 09: 13
                    Are you verbalizing - who is responsible for compiling the List itself?

                    and if you read?
                    prepared by the Ministry for Federation and Nationalities of the Russian Federation

                    only proposals were collected from the subjects. And you might have guessed that the federal-level list is made up by federal-level bodies, not subjects, and not to argue in vain. and gossip as you say. Why don’t you just honestly admit that you didn’t know this and did not read my first post carefully? Even the Inquisition sent to the stake not for delusions, but for the fact that a person persisted in them.
                    For the restriction of the Russian language in Ukraine and the nationalist Jewish president, for some reason, they kept silent.

                    I am discussing the specific law described in the article, and its almost complete identity with the analogous Russian one, and I do not see any connection with what you have written. In addition to taking the conversation off topic.
                    In the comments on your fingers, they explained to you the differences in the laws of the Russian Federation and Ukraine.

                    I have not seen such. Both you and others. Not surprisingly, the laws are similar.
                    1. +1
                      19 June 2021 20: 49
                      How similar? In Ukraine, the Russian language is being crossed out, we find support for the languages ​​of small peoples without crossing out the rest. Do you see it? Answer the question - is there oppression of the Russian language in Ukraine or not? One question?
                      1. -3
                        19 June 2021 23: 44
                        Did you find something about the prohibition of the Russian language in the law under discussion?
                        Give a quote with a link, read it.
                        Or did you just decide to change the subject?
                2. +1
                  19 June 2021 20: 56
                  Are you going to teach me the system of law of the Russian Federation in Israel? Once again, for those who are in the armored train - the number and list of small and indigenous peoples are prepared by the constituent entities of the Russian Federation. This process is without prejudice to the rights of other peoples. We take Ukraine - there is oppression, open oppression of the Russian language. As a screen, the law on "indigenous peoples", where there are only three in the list, compare with the Russian Federation. These three guarantee education in their "native" language, and the Russian language is oppressed.
                  I see that in Israel only a man is Rivlin, who called a spade a spade. The rest, especially the former Soviet ones, only sleep and see how to blame Russia and elevate Ukraine. You are an ordinary Russophobe.
  11. +7
    18 June 2021 15: 34
    Ukrainian Ambassador Andriy Melnyk boycotts the memorial event marking the 80th anniversary of the attack on the Soviet Union with the participation of Federal President Frank-Walter Steinmeier, because it is taking place at the German-Russian Museum in Berlin-Karlshorst.

    This is "from the point of view of Ukrainians, an insult, very annoying and at the same time discouraging," the ambassador wrote in a letter to museum director Jörg Morre, which was provided to the German press agency and first reported to Tagesspiegel.
    "A twist in history that must be categorically rejected"
    The ambassador criticizes the fact that the permanent exhibition in the museum is dedicated to the war of annihilation between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union (USSR) and that the museum still bears only Russia in its name, and not other Soviet republics such as Ukraine and others. Belarus, which also suffered millions of victims in World War II, had to complain.

    "Thus, the USSR is de facto equated with Russia, which is a turning point in history and requires a decisive refusal," Melnik writes. "It is indeed dangerous, especially for the future of German-Ukrainian reconciliation, that this deliberate Russian rethinking of history continues to find a broad political and social response in the Federal Republic."

    Federal president's office regrets refusal - and refutes criticism
    The office of the federal president said the refusal was regrettable because it contradicted Steinmeier's request to promote reconciliation through memory. At the same time, from the point of view of the Russian approach, "respect".

    The Federal President's Office strongly objected to the Ambassador's criticism of Germany's policy on memorials. The spokesman said it was an "unacceptable all-round blow" that did a disservice to the relationship.
    80th anniversary of the German attack on the Soviet Union
    The German-Russian Museum Berlin-Karlshorst is located in the building in which the commander-in-chief of the Wehrmacht signed an unconditional surrender to the representatives of the Soviet Union, the USA, Great Britain and France on the night of May 8-9. , 1945. This ended the Second World War in Europe.

    June 22 marks 80 years since the German attack on the Soviet Union. On this occasion, this Friday the museum opens the exhibition “The dimensions of the crime. Soviet prisoners of war in the Great Patriotic War. " On this occasion, Steinmeier wishes to give a central commemorative speech on the occasion of the anniversary. The Bundestag already marked the anniversary with a debate last week.

    Historians estimate the number of victims of World War II in the former Soviet Union at about 27 million. As a percentage of the total population, Ukraine had the highest population losses after Belarus. According to Ukrainian data, between 1939 and 1945, between eight and ten million former residents of what is now Ukraine were killed.

    https://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/ukrainischer-botschafter-sagt-teilnahme-ab-eklat-um-gedenken-an-deutschen-ueberfall-auf-die-sowjetunion/27289630.html
    1. +4
      18 June 2021 15: 40
      It seems that this Miller was sent to stink as much as possible.
      1. +4
        18 June 2021 15: 43
        It is one thing to warm up Shukhevych until "better times" and quite another - to put Bandera's ideology in power in the country.
        This will come back to haunt the government of the Federal Republic of Germany more than once.
    2. +2
      18 June 2021 16: 59
      Quote: Simple
      June 22 marks 80 years since the German attack on the Soviet Union. On this occasion, this Friday the museum opens the exhibition “The dimensions of the crime. Soviet prisoners of war in the Great Patriotic War. " On this occasion, Steinmeier wishes to give a central commemorative speech on the occasion of the anniversary.

      By this, the Germans recognize that fascism is the most terrible phenomenon of the 20th century, but they do not recognize this in Ukraine, and fascism is openly confessed there with the approval of the Kiev authorities.
  12. -12
    18 June 2021 15: 39
    According to the law of the Russian Federation on the rights of indigenous peoples, Russians in Russia are also not an indigenous people.
    Why then discuss the same Ukrainian law ????

    FEDERAL LAW TEXT

    "On guarantees of the rights of the indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation

    Adopted by the State Duma on April 16, 1999
    Approved by the Federation Council on April 22, 1999

    (As amended by federal laws dated 22.08.2004 No. 122-FZ, dated 26.06.2007 No. 118-FZ, dated 13.05.2008 No. 66-FZ, dated 30.12.2008 No. 309-FZ, dated 05.04.2009 No. 40-FZ, dated July 13.07.2015, 256 No. 27.06.2018-FZ, dated June 164, 26.07.2019 No. 234-FZ, dated July 06.02.2020, 11 No. 13.07.2020-FZ, dated February 194, XNUMX No. XNUMX-FZ, dated July XNUMX, XNUMX No. XNUMX-FZ)

    This Federal Law, in accordance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation, generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation, establishes the legal basis for guarantees of the original socio-economic and cultural development of the indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation, protection of their original habitat, traditional way of life, economic activity and crafts. (As amended by Federal Law No. 27.06.2018-FZ dated 164)

    Article 1. Basic concepts

    The following basic concepts are used in this Federal Law:
    1) indigenous small-numbered peoples of the Russian Federation (hereinafter referred to as small-numbered peoples) - peoples living in the territories of traditional settlement of their ancestors, preserving their traditional way of life, economic activity and crafts, numbering less than 50 thousand people in the Russian Federation and realizing themselves as independent ethnic communities. (As amended by Federal Law dated June 27.06.2018, 164 No. XNUMX-FZ) "
    1. +2
      18 June 2021 16: 08
      Russian law does not in any way interfere with education in Russian, unlike Ukrainian.
    2. +6
      18 June 2021 16: 11
      The law you mentioned is called
      On guarantees of the rights of the indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation
      .
      Indigenous SMALL, this is a special law for indigenous and SMALL peoples of Russia, what's wrong? Russians are not small in number, 111 million in the Russian Federation.
      1. -2
        18 June 2021 17: 53
        Is there any other law on indigenous peoples?
    3. ANB
      +4
      18 June 2021 16: 32
      ... indigenous small-numbered peoples of the Russian Federation (hereinafter - small-numbered peoples)

      In Russia, the law on small peoples. Additional support so as not to disappear. And Russians, like many other nationalities of the Russian Federation, do not belong to them.
      In Ukraine, the law on indigenous peoples is being adopted.
      Completely different terms and consequences.
    4. +4
      18 June 2021 17: 01
      Quote: Vasya Santa
      According to the law of the Russian Federation on the rights of indigenous peoples, Russians in Russia are also not an indigenous people.
      Why then discuss the same Ukrainian law ????

      FEDERAL LAW TEXT

      This Russian law not only does not pay, but, among other things, also guarantees other compensations, guarantees and privileges, including financial ones.
    5. +1
      18 June 2021 17: 01
      Quote: Vasya Santa
      Why then discuss the same Ukrainian law ????

      In Russia, this is a law for the people, and in Ukraine, only for those who are pleasing to Kiev.
    6. +4
      18 June 2021 21: 00
      Quote Vasya Santa:
      According to the law of the Russian Federation on the rights of indigenous peoples, then Russians in Russia are also not an indigenous people.
      Why then discuss the same Ukrainian law ????

      FEDERAL LAW TEXT
      "On guarantees of rights indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation
      ...


      Do you even read what you write yourself? Or do you seriously consider Russians to be a small people of Russia?
    7. 0
      19 June 2021 10: 16
      Quote: Vasya Santa
      On guarantees of the rights of the indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation

      You read all the words that are written. And there ....few peoples ... This law is designed to ensure that these small peoples do not dissolve in the Russian people and do not disappear as special ethnocultural communities. Sometimes you have to turn on your head. All laws are issued for a specific purpose, and not just with a listing of everything that lives on the territory.
  13. +9
    18 June 2021 15: 43
    Aha! Well, then you need to pass a law on the historical lands of the Russian Empire.
    1. +5
      18 June 2021 17: 02
      Quote: Vladimir61
      Aha! Well, then you need to pass a law on the historical lands of the Russian Empire.

      Correct thought, comrade!
  14. HAM
    +6
    18 June 2021 15: 44
    And then the "great combinator" - the Fuehrer understood: "they will beat him, perhaps with their feet ...."
    1. +1
      18 June 2021 17: 07
      Quote: HAM
      And then the "great combinator" - the Fuehrer understood: "they will beat him, perhaps with their feet ...." Since the muzzle of a person of a non-indigenous nationality .... will be beaten by those very indigenous ..

      Interestingly, and Zelensky himself refers to the "indigenous peoples of Ukraine" or what ???
  15. -5
    18 June 2021 15: 49
    There are no words. If the king did not like it, it does not mean that it is not gut.
    World practice says otherwise
    In 2007, the UN adopted the Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (UNDRIP), which was supported by a large number of states.
    Russia has a special law on 65 indigenous peoples, which it recognizes
    More details here (so that some idle sloths don't have to search laughing ) https://m.dw.com/ru/jekspert-o-tom-kogo-schitat-korennymi-narodami-v-ukraine/a-57849395
    1. ANB
      0
      18 June 2021 16: 36
      ... Russia has a special law on 65 indigenous peoples, which it recognizes
      More details here (so that some idle sloths don't have to look for laughing) https://m.dw.com/ru/jekspert-o-tom-kogo-schitat-korennymi-narodami-v-ukraine/a-57849395

      You write about the Russian law and give a link to the opinion of the "expert" about the Ukrainian one.
      It is strange.
      1. -5
        18 June 2021 16: 57
        The tsar did not like the Ukrainian law, and what does the Russian one have to do with it?
        I pointed out that there is a corresponding law in the Russian Federation.
        A reference to the opinion of an authoritative international expert, and not gorlopanov from the State Duma
        1. ANB
          +2
          18 June 2021 17: 25
          ... I indicated that there is a corresponding law in the Russian Federation.


          In Ukrainian, are the Ukrainians themselves an indigenous people?
          1. -2
            18 June 2021 17: 57
            And in Russian, Russians?
            1. ANB
              +1
              18 June 2021 17: 58
              ... And in Russian, Russians?

              They are not. I already wrote about this.
              So I was asking about the Ukrainian law.
  16. +1
    18 June 2021 16: 23
    How many in all the media from morning to evening you can repeat -Ukraine here acted according to the precepts of the Third Reich, Ukraine here acted according to the precepts of Bandera, Ukraine here provides services to the enemies of Russia, Ukraine kills the residents of Donbass like this ... open. It has long been clear to everyone in Russia that today's Ukraine is an incipient fascist regime. Tryndet about it every day, it's the same if every day you report that manure is not sinking. We know so and so. that manure cannot sink!
    But Shoigu's office could have deprived all media of these topics about fascist Ukraine with a decisive blow to these nests of fascism in Ukraine. It is high time to do business and not open your mouth and dirty paper.
    Because of this, fascism has never disappeared anywhere ..
    1. +1
      18 June 2021 17: 22
      Because of this, fascism has never disappeared anywhere ..
      in the Baltics he has not disappeared, in Moldova, the truth about him, they do not write every day. And suddenly, if you write every day, the lines will materialize and Nazism will disappear in Ukraine, the Baltic States and Moldova.
    2. 0
      22 June 2021 15: 16
      Fascism-Nazism here is only an instrument of violence. Customers are the owners of the money (for now). Their time is running out. In general, the common task is to change the paradigm of humanity. But now, as they say, "who did not hide" is not very clear. In the Russian Federation, too, everything is strange.
  17. wow
    +1
    18 June 2021 16: 37
    And the Jews, to whom the current "leader" of the Yukreins belongs, are they indigenous or attached ... ???
    1. HAM
      +3
      18 June 2021 16: 41
      If you make the Jews "indigenous" people, they will simply move their capital to Odessa ....
      1. -1
        19 June 2021 07: 32
        Quote: HAM
        If you make the Jews "indigenous" people, they will simply move their capital to Odessa ....

        while the capital is in Uman, but so far, appetite comes with eating ...
    2. +4
      18 June 2021 17: 04
      Quote: yo-mine
      And the Jews, to whom the current "leader" of the Yukreins belongs, are they indigenous or attached ... ???

      In fact, Ukraine itself is attached to ... Russia. So, according to history, it has always been. Otherwise, the Western "troikas" will take it apart.
    3. +1
      18 June 2021 17: 13
      Quote: yo-mine
      And the Jews, to whom the current "leader" of the Yukreins belongs, are they indigenous or attached ... ???

      In Ukraine, all presidents, only representatives of the indigenous nation.
  18. +1
    18 June 2021 16: 50
    Well, strictly speaking, the point is not that the Crimean Tatars, Krymchaks and Karaites were recognized as the indigenous peoples of Ukraine and this bill is not. In Russia, there is an absolutely similar law on small indigenous peoples, which did not include either Ukrainians or Crimean Tatars (which is logical - these are not small peoples), or Krymchaks and Karaites (and this is already a flaw). The point is the systematic and deliberate violation of the rights of the Russian-speaking community, carried out both at the "legal" and at the subordinate level.
  19. +3
    18 June 2021 17: 04
    This is natural, in the Baltics for a long time there are 2 kinds. And what did you want from the nationalists. Nazism and nationalism are marching side by side, hand in hand.
  20. +1
    18 June 2021 17: 20
    The indigenous people of Ukraine are the Scythians. But something has not been heard about them for a long time.
    1. +1
      18 June 2021 18: 00
      Then yes, the Cimmerians - their Scythians genocidal.
    2. 0
      18 June 2021 18: 33
      The indigenous people of the territories named after 1922 as Ukraine are the Russians living in the region. No genialogy has ever proven anything else. Who does not know - Shevchenko's "Kobzar" was translated into Ukrainian in Austria-Hungary after Shevchenko's death. The Taras Shevchenko Society still exists today with headquarters in the USA and Canada.
  21. +2
    18 June 2021 18: 25
    Russians, Belarusians, Moldovans, Hungarians, Jews and other peoples were removed by the president from the indigenous population ... Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians are one people. Ukrainians are Russians living in Ukraine, Belarusians are in Belarus. Cool. Putin correctly said - when will the skulls be measured ?! Why are the Jews silent? The "Galicia" division, dear to the Sumerian heart of the Waffen-SS, also destroyed them. And the Poles. It is clear that the Banderites destroyed the Russians most of all (not the Holocaust, no?), But still ...
  22. +1
    19 June 2021 06: 01
    It's a pity how Trotsky can't be hit on the head
  23. 0
    19 June 2021 07: 08
    And sucks they have done, something like a corral) Architect for bacon))
  24. -1
    19 June 2021 17: 30
    Another propaganda fake from Fedorov. It is enough to read the UN documents on "indigenous peoples" to understand that neither Russians nor Ukrainians fall under this definition. And, oh, horror, the Constitution of Russia also has such a concept. 40 nationalities of the Russian Federation fall under it, but the Russians are not listed there! This is fascism! Genocide of the Russian people! Help, save the Russians in Russia!
  25. -1
    19 June 2021 22: 31
    How many nationalities do the Jews have? Starting with German Jews, Russian Jews, Ukrainian Jews and so on, reaching Israeli Jews. The author came up with a great idea. So there are Canadian Ukrainians and maybe there are still Russian Russians somewhere outside.
  26. -1
    20 June 2021 12: 41
    The author confuses the concepts of racism and chauvinism.
  27. 0
    22 June 2021 14: 55
    Zelensky is not a thief, not a monster, not a sadist, but he is not going to sacrifice his life either, especially since there is no point in this. As long as the "party" of "Ukrainians" is protected by a godfather from overseas, nothing will change, we must endure the collapse of the states. Zelensky at times was mowing down on trolling and it was clear his sarcasm. But this is fraught, there are enough spies, and he has to demonstrate in solidarity with the real, ideological inspirers of Ukrainian Nazism, which are just one or two, but these dinosaurs are guarded by a godfather, who in every country finds a cov to match his plans. In general, violence has always been fraught, even from good intentions, as it was sometimes in the USSR.
    Zelensky - to be sorry.

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