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"The state of the Russian MiG-29 does not allow them to intercept NATO aircraft": Polish press on a possible replacement for MiG-35 fighters

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The MiG-35 fighter is completing state tests. After their completion, the developer hopes to obtain permission to start serial production of aircraft for the needs of the Russian Ministry of Defense, which announced its intention to acquire 24 units by 2027.


These aircraft are lighter and cheaper to operate than heavy aircraft of the Su-27 family [...] These aircraft [Su fighters] are too expensive for many tasks.

- indicated in Defense24.

As explained, the Russian Aerospace Forces are currently armed with 267 MiG-29s, plus 22 shipborne vehicles.

They are in poor technical condition and do not occur, for example, in incidents with aircraft from NATO or other countries. In such cases, there are always Su-27 family cars.

- noted in the Polish press.

The publication claims that 2008 was a fatal year for the Russian MiG-29: at the end of the year, a series of disasters followed, after which a fleet of several hundred vehicles was completely on the ground. As indicated in the publication, during the "debriefing" it turned out that 70% of the MiG-29 have technical problems due to age and improper operation. In February 2009, flights were resumed, but many of the aircraft were decommissioned.

Since then, work has been carried out on the modernization and overhaul of these aircraft. In total, 16 new MiG-29SMTs were purchased, the fleet of which was replenished with 35 MiG-29SMT / UBTs due to a thwarted deal with Algeria.

Therefore, it seems expedient for the Air Force to switch to another middle class fighter. However, it is not known whether the upcoming costs will allow replacing the MiG-29 with the MiG-35 in a 1: 1 ratio. Do not overlook the beginning of work on the creation of a light, probably single-engine fighter.

- noted in Defense24, pointing out that the state of the Russian Mi-29s does not allow them to meet NATO aircraft and participate in their interceptions.

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  1. mole
    mole 16 June 2021 20: 05
    +17
    One question. What do the Poles have ???
    ??
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat 16 June 2021 20: 11
      +8
      Quote: Mole
      One question. What do the Poles have ???
      ??

      Did you want to say that you have your own? ))
      1. mole
        mole 16 June 2021 20: 18
        +5
        It doesn’t matter, that is, they do not care in "leasing".
        1. Cananecat
          Cananecat 16 June 2021 20: 32
          +1
          +100500 (one hundred percent) laughing
          1. NIKN
            NIKN 16 June 2021 20: 39
            +11
            In February 2009 years
            cool analytical data on combat readiness ... It would be nice to continue to analyze in the same mode.
      2. xorek
        xorek 16 June 2021 20: 29
        +18
        The state of the Russian MiG-29s does not allow them to intercept NATO aircraft

        This is not what Poland needs to worry about, but how will they take the first blow in the event of a serious conflict?
        600 thousand of our fallen in the Second World War during the liberation of Poland will definitely not be this time .. You defiled their graves and forgot everything ..
        Forgive me, but this time everything will be different .. You insulted us and our memory and the answer will be appropriate soldier
        1. xorek
          xorek 16 June 2021 20: 32
          -4
          Quote: xorek
          The state of the Russian MiG-29s does not allow them to intercept NATO aircraft

          This is not what Poland needs to worry about, but how will they take the first blow in the event of a serious conflict?
          600 thousand of our fallen in the Second World War during the liberation of Poland will definitely not be this time .. You defiled their graves and forgot everything ..
          Forgive me, but this time everything will be different .. You insulted us and our memory and the answer will be appropriate soldier

          Quote: Mole
          One question. What do the Poles have ???
          ??

          The look of a descendant of Russian soldiers is unblinking ..
        2. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 17 June 2021 13: 57
          -5
          Quote: xorek
          The state of the Russian MiG-29s does not allow them to intercept NATO aircraft

          This is not what Poland needs to worry about, but how will they take the first blow in the event of a serious conflict?
          600 thousand of our fallen in the Second World War during the liberation of Poland will definitely not be this time .. You defiled their graves and forgot everything ..
          Forgive me, but this time everything will be different .. You insulted us and our memory and the answer will be appropriate soldier

          Are your fists itchy? Do you want a small victorious war? It won't be there. And if it does, then the result is likely to be the same as in 1905.
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 16 June 2021 20: 19
      +8
      Mole Polyahia has an ambition, and a desire to please the Yankees in any way. This is enough for them to think too much of themselves!
      1. mole
        mole 16 June 2021 20: 24
        +5
        Yes, colleague, you are absolutely right about the ambition. The ambition comes from the desire of certain individuals to sell Themselves at a higher price, they sold "theirs" long ago. "This is just business!"
    3. Prisoner
      Prisoner 16 June 2021 20: 43
      +2
      Honor. What is not supported by anything.
    4. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 16 June 2021 20: 47
      +13
      Poles will soon have F - 35, inexpensive, easy and very efficient))))
      1. xorek
        xorek 16 June 2021 21: 06
        +2
        Quote: TermNachTER
        Poles will soon have F - 35, inexpensive, easy and very efficient))))

        To the delight of Israel wassat .. They will shoe them when serving!
        Turkey, after purchasing our, in principle, outdated S-400s hinted to all of them ..
        Like, "Nafig do we need these" invisibles "? We read them at once with the help of Russian systems .. bully And the shout began for the whole world, about the insidious Russians, etc.
      2. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 16 June 2021 21: 21
        +2
        Quote: TermNachTER
        Poles will soon have F - 35, inexpensive, easy and very efficient))))


        Is not a fact. Not sure. Poles are thinking about their foreign policy. Rethinking.
        Why did we start a hopeless war on this front, which spoiled Poland's relations not only with Russia, but also with Germany, that is, the European Union, which acts as an appendix to this state? Unknown. There is no point in breaking spears now, since Washington has declared its defeat in this area.

        Defeat can always be forged into success and even make money in the end. The West has “betrayed” us once again, so we are no longer obliged to buy American planes and other expensive toys, thanks to which several tens of billions of zlotys will remain in our wallets. You can also call to order the American concerns that do not want to pay taxes in Poland (I could give a few examples offhand).

        It's time to start a serious discussion about Polish foreign policy, which until now has led us only from defeat to defeat.

        https://inosmi.ru/politic/20210615/249919179.html
        1. silver_roman
          silver_roman 17 June 2021 09: 32
          0
          Poles, as typical puppets, can think so only if their current master gives up the slack. In general, the Poles just need to close access to the area of ​​our interests, and then they can show their fee as they want. In the case of a real serious conversation, all this ambition gets lost at once and a lousy shabby lichen hyena will pull its tail under the ass. As it always has been.
    5. Evil543
      Evil543 16 June 2021 22: 45
      0
      Desire to become lords from sea to sea
    6. alexmach
      alexmach 17 June 2021 00: 17
      0
      m. F-16, in fact, there are plans to buy F-35 and not piece.
    7. EvilLion
      EvilLion 17 June 2021 08: 14
      0
      48 pieces of F-16, combat EMNIP 36, the rest of the training twin, about 2 dozen MiG-29 of the early series, perhaps in the ranks of another one and a half to two dozen Su-22.
  2. kit88
    kit88 16 June 2021 20: 16
    +30
    Explain someone to the Poles that the MiG-29 has never been an interceptor and has never served in air defense.
    And if a meeting between the Air Force MiG and NATO takes place, then it has BEGINNED.
    1. URAL72
      URAL72 16 June 2021 20: 22
      +4
      Everything is true, but in a certain kingdom, in a certain state ... And specifically in Armenia.
    2. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 16 June 2021 21: 10
      +1
      In order to explain, the presence of brains is required, from the one to whom they are explaining))) The brains of pshek are replaced by Russophobia.
    3. xorek
      xorek 16 June 2021 21: 15
      +4
      Quote: kit88
      Explain someone to the Poles that the MiG-29 has never been an interceptor and has never served in air defense.
      And if a meeting between the Air Force MiG and NATO takes place, then it has BEGINNED.

      They know, but pouring dirt and screaming with fear, this is their earnings and a very good percentage in the budget .. The Bzezhinskiy pro was in the inflating of Russophobia, now the mongrels are stupid .. hi
    4. EvilLion
      EvilLion 17 June 2021 08: 12
      +2
      I will explain to the kit88 user that individual air forces and air defense systems in Russia were eliminated back in the 90s, and the interceptor may not even be very suitable for this role due to the low speed of F \ A-18, there are countries in the world where it is just the only fighter and performs, including air defense missions. The same Finns are apparently satisfied with it in this regard.

      Even MiG-27s, which are bombers in general, were sometimes put on duty with a pair of R-73 missiles.
      1. kit88
        kit88 17 June 2021 11: 16
        +8
        Thanks for the clarification of the participant EvilLion.
        But I am least of all interested in who works there as an interceptor in different countries - at least an F-18, even an An-2, these are their problems and the interest of sofa experts.
        And in our aviation from the 4th generation, the MiG-31 and Su-27 served in the air defense. On the MiG-29, the air defense schools also did not train specialists.
        And when we were informed in the regiment that from now on we are not just air defense aviation, but a whole air force-air defense aviation, since we were united, do you think at least something has changed? Everything was as it was and remained, the planes were both interceptors and remained interceptors and no one changed the mission of the regiment.
        1. EvilLion
          EvilLion 17 June 2021 12: 00
          0
          Probably because the tasks of the MiG-29 and Su-27 are absolutely the same - the destruction of enemy aircraft in the air during interception missions, or cover for their attack or transport aircraft.

          Unlike the MiG-31, which no one would have attracted for escort.
  3. KCA
    KCA 16 June 2021 20: 18
    +6
    There is no brain, why should a front-line fighter MIG-29 and not an air defense fighter SU-27 fly out to intercept NATA aircraft?
    1. Barberry25
      Barberry25 16 June 2021 20: 21
      +10
      well, in one thing they are right - it is necessary to change the mig-29 to the moment-35, at least 60-100 cars, but you need to buy
      1. storm
        storm 16 June 2021 22: 25
        -1
        And why is the MiG-35 better than the Su-30SM2?
        Homogeneous videoconferencing on Sukhoi aircraft in operation, providing them with spare parts, weapons, training technicians and pilots is better than a "hodgepodge" with several MiG-35 regiments ...
        1. Barberry25
          Barberry25 17 June 2021 00: 49
          +1
          what exactly is better? I somehow thought for the sake of interest, if you buy a su-30/35, then the difference in operating costs per year is such that you can take several new heavy-class fighters every year ... or upgrade an entire tank battalion ..
          1. EvilLion
            EvilLion 17 June 2021 08: 15
            0
            Well, just to compensate for the decrease in quality, these additional MiGs will go. After all, the Su-35 is stronger and more functional than the MiG-35.
        2. Barberry25
          Barberry25 17 June 2021 00: 50
          +1
          Why did the Americans, having in fact limitless financial resources, put their main stake on light machines, and not on heavy Needles?
          1. EvilLion
            EvilLion 17 June 2021 08: 12
            0
            The 12+ tonnes of empty weight for the F-35A is very light.
            1. Barberry25
              Barberry25 17 June 2021 09: 37
              0
              So why are they not just buying heavy boards?
              1. EvilLion
                EvilLion 17 June 2021 10: 02
                0
                Why did you get the idea that the US resources are limitless ?? They started all this under the sauce of economy instead of developing suitable aircraft based on the F-22. Saved up to the new F-15EX.
                1. Barberry25
                  Barberry25 17 June 2021 13: 08
                  0
                  only the basic model of their air force is light F-16 ... or the costs are lower for operation ... I repeat, the purchase of 60-70 vehicles allows you to purchase 4 new su-35s or a whole tank battalion t-90M every year, because of the difference in cost exploitation
                  1. EvilLion
                    EvilLion 17 June 2021 14: 11
                    0
                    I repeat, the savings are imaginary, since more light aircraft are needed, as well as air bases and potentially tankers.
                    1. Barberry25
                      Barberry25 17 June 2021 14: 58
                      0
                      Well, calculate the amount of imaginary savings .. I'll wait)
    2. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 16 June 2021 20: 49
      -1
      Because, for NATA, the brain is not like a completely superfluous device, but in general, it is not obligatory)))
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 16 June 2021 20: 20
    +1
    And where is Polyakhskaya's recommendation to buy F35 as much as possible? ?? lol
  5. Marachuh
    Marachuh 16 June 2021 20: 25
    -2
    To intercept Poles and a balloon is enough. laughing
  6. Prisoner
    Prisoner 16 June 2021 20: 40
    +5
    The Pole is lying. "Russian MiG-29 intercepted Norwegian aircraft over the Barents Sea ..." September 2020, on the same day the British R.1 Sentinel and also MiG-29 were intercepted.
  7. Azimuth
    Azimuth 16 June 2021 22: 22
    0
    Since the production of the MiG-35, practically everything is ready, the tests are being completed, there is only a question of expediency and quantity.
    Perhaps the MiG-35 is only part of the program for testing systems that will be implemented in a light single-engine fighter and more advanced, in tandem with the Su-57.
  8. wow
    wow 16 June 2021 23: 10
    0
    How does this expert know something about the technical condition ...!?
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 17 June 2021 00: 20
      +1
      From open sources?
  9. va3610
    va3610 16 June 2021 23: 43
    0
    What do they care about our planes, they would have to dig bomb shelters, because in the event of a grandiose nix, their Poland will remain a burnt spot.
  10. Alexander Terentyev
    Alexander Terentyev 17 June 2021 01: 55
    +3
    The MiG-29 is not an interceptor fighter. It is designed for highly maneuverable air combat at medium and short distances. The author of this article does not have sufficient knowledge of the differences between the classes of combat aircraft. It is impossible to go to a military operation to free the hostages in an apartment building with a Mosin rifle. The PM pistol is suitable for this. Conversely, it is pointless to repulse the attack of the advancing enemy in the Don steppes with a pistol. This requires
    Mosin rifle.
  11. hostel
    hostel 17 June 2021 02: 13
    +2
    And we are told that Russia does not need light and medium fighters, but here 260 fighters are not combat-ready.
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 17 June 2021 08: 07
      0
      It is hard to be combat-ready standing in a disassembled state in a long-term storage warehouse awaiting disposal, or transfer to some would-be allies within the framework of military-technical assistance.

      And they stand there precisely because the resource is knocked out, and they are not corny.
  12. EvilLion
    EvilLion 17 June 2021 08: 04
    0
    Interestingly, a Pole can open at least a pikivedia and see the composition of the Russian Air Force in which more than 2010 "dryers" have been delivered since 300, and Soviet MiG-29s remained only at the airbase in Armenia, plus some remnants are still being heard to all Serbia homeopathic doses?
  13. Artemion3
    Artemion3 17 June 2021 08: 28
    +2
    I wondered why they hadn't switched to the F-35 with their Russophobic rhetoric yet.
  14. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 17 June 2021 15: 12
    +1
    The swaggering Poles are liquid shit again))
    See this))
  15. boris epstein
    boris epstein 17 June 2021 16: 07
    +1
    Buy, Poles, Fu-35 from the USA. And the purchase of MiGs must first be earned.
  16. zenion
    zenion 17 June 2021 16: 20
    0
    Does he have to ask permission? Jewish anecdote. A Jew comes to the rabbi and asks - is it allowed to smoke on Saturday? The rabbi answers - you can't! But you smoke! Rabbi - I didn't ask anyone for permission!
  17. Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 18 June 2021 09: 01
    -1
    Still, it makes sense to consider the MiG-35 as a technology demonstrator.
    The fighter did not find demand either in the Russian army or from foreign customers. Financial fiasco of the project. But this does not mean that it disappeared senselessly - the experience of integrating modern avionics has been accumulated
    The creation of an unobtrusive single-engine aircraft, taking into account the accumulated experience, is a consistent and logical step.
  18. slavinsk
    slavinsk 18 June 2021 15: 48
    0
    The Russian army has not been able to perform large-scale tasks for a long time. And for a show, a dozen combat-ready vehicles will be typed.