Sohu: Russia has two strong allies - China and India

The United States is trying to establish world domination, but Russia is hindering them in this, becoming the main geopolitical adversary. Despite the US attempts to suppress Russia economically, the Americans do not dare to unleash a war and nuclear weapon is not the only factor in this. Writes about this Chinese edition Sohu.

The Soviet Union, and then Russia, throughout stories of their existence were the main opponents of the United States. The contradictions between them resulted in the Cold War, but it never came to the outbreak of hostilities, the newspaper writes. There are several reasons for this, and the factor that Russia has a powerful nuclear arsenal, although frightening the United States, is not the only one.

According to the authors of the publication, its allies are helping Russia to resist the United States. Firstly, this is China, with which Russia has a strategic partnership, and secondly, India, which has high positions in the international ranking.

India is currently ranked fourth in the ranking of the most powerful military powers, writes Sohu, and its military spending only continues to grow. In addition, India's huge advantages are its geographic location and population size, providing a high military potential.

India, despite all attempts by the West to re-subordinate it to itself, continues military-technical cooperation with Russia, purchasing weapons and equipment in large quantities. In addition, India and Russia have many projects not only in the military, but also in the civilian sphere. These countries can rightfully be called allies.

According to the authors of the article, in the event of a military conflict between the United States and Russia, India, with a high degree of probability, will side with the latter.

Thus, according to the Chinese newspaper, two strong allies - China and India - are helping Russia to resist the United States.

Comments

[Normal ok]

Against the backdrop of confrontation with China and Pakistan, India is confidently moving towards the West.

[The leader of the Redskins]

I would not consider China an ally.
Moreover, when such flattery is poured from the lips of the Chinese media.
"Fear the Danes who bring gifts" ....
Well, or in our opinion:
"Gently eat ..."

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Moreover, when such flattery is poured from the lips of the Chinese media.

The costs of waiting for the outcome of the meeting between Putin and Biden.

[Alex777]

The costs of waiting for the outcome of the meeting between Putin and Biden.

"Not only everyone" is worried!

[Vladimir Mashkov]

The present allies are those with whom the Treaty has been signed and who always support an ally on most issues. Are China and India allies or good travel companions? And you can say anything you want, that's why the language is given. All the more so for the press and journalists.

[bayard]

Quote: Alex777

"Not only everyone" is worried!

China has a special excitement - sometimes they agreed about China. The Yankees missed China, they understand that they will not be pulled against both, now they can even buy Russia's neutrality for happiness.
And they have a chance.
After all, China has demonstrated its alliance for 7 years, rubbing its pens, that now it is very uncomfortable for it to remain the main enemy of the United States alone ... And "subtle flattery" was used. And not only to the Russian Federation, but also to India. For against the background of China's conflict with India and the United States, they are threatened to find themselves alone against a rather powerful coalition - the United States, India, Japan, Australia, Britain and smaller Tobaccos.
... It will be hard without Russia.
India and the US Navy may also block trade traffic.
And it is not easy to put pressure on such a coalition with the human mass - India has more youth, with an approximately equal population.
... And right away I remembered Chinese intrigues against Russian business, low-quality engines for RTOs, twisting hands in trade deals, theft of military technologies, tricks with a joint-developed wide-body aircraft (almost a scam of the Russian Federation, despite the cost of this 50/50%) , Chinese lumberjacks and pyrotechnics in the Russian Taiga ...
China simply enjoyed the situation when Russia single-handedly fought off the collective West for the past 7 years, under the guise of these battles, making an economic breakthrough and rearming the army and navy for tasks on a global scale.
Now he himself is in the place of Russia.
Don't gloat.
You just need to take advantage of the current situation to your advantage.
That's just the ability of the existing power to rule for the good, reasonably, purposefully and responsibly ... there are considerable doubts.

[Alex777]

The Yankees missed China, they understand that they will not be pulled against both, now they can even buy Russia's neutrality for happiness.
And they have a chance.

I am sure that there are no such chances simply because the States are not fulfilling any of their obligations.
It makes no sense to negotiate with them and do something against China. Everyone understands this.

China simply enjoyed the situation when Russia single-handedly fought off the collective West for the past 7 years, under the guise of these battles, making an economic breakthrough and rearming the army and navy for tasks on a global scale.

If we proceed from the fact that everyone has their own interests, everything falls into place.

That's just the ability of the existing power to rule for the good, reasonably, purposefully and responsibly ... there are considerable doubts.

He who has eyes will see.
I told you in detail about my point of view.
You, of course, have the right to see things in your own way.

[bayard]

Quote: Alex777

I am sure that there are no such chances simply because the States are not fulfilling any of their obligations.
It makes no sense to negotiate with them and do something against China. Everyone understands this.

Why do something against China? The United States now has a dream to at least get neutrality from Russia. And judging by Biden's pre-conference, that's what they were talking about.
And you noticed how China immediately tensed? How did the interesting proposals from Russia immediately start pouring in?
And the two of them are already proposing to fly to the moon, deploy a joint lunar base (here the notorious "Nuclon" will no longer be superfluous), and about "a faithful ally, in the form of himself and India, he drew ... And perhaps (now) in the wide-body project too joint development of the borzometer will fasten ... Perhaps he will want to make peace with India (and with our help) ...
China clearly felt its own loneliness, especially when it saw the EU and NATO backing the US to contain China.
And apparently he remembers well how he himself conspired with the United States and England against the USSR, how he arranged provocations on the border (my uncle fought in Damanskoye), conducted subversive activities and propaganda, split the Socialist camp, attacked Vietnam ...
Therefore, whether we need such an "ally" is a question.
The Russian Federation needs to resolve its issues and use the opening opportunities to its advantage. After all :

Quote: Alex777

If we proceed from the fact that everyone has their own interests, everything falls into place.

With which I completely agree.
Now it is China's turn to defend its right to number 2 in the world, let it now fight, albeit in the Cold War regime. This is his choice and his destiny.
And the Russian Federation needs to demand for its loyalty and neutrality - trade preferences, lines of credit (if there is a need for them), observance of all the rights of our companies and corporations, favorable prices in the trade of resources, an end to the robbery of our forest, a public rejection of ANY territorial claims. And you see, Primorye and Sakhalin are their ancestral lands ... Yes, Manchuria, Southern Mongolia and Tibet have never been Chinese!
The time has come for Russia to set the conditions for its favor.
... If, of course, the power of the mind and the strength of the genitals are enough.
And the balance of power is extremely favorable to this. But this window of opportunity will not last forever, and you need to forge iron right now - on the spot.

Quote: Alex777

I told you in detail about my point of view.
You, of course, have the right to see things in your own way.

And I, in turn, shared mine.
And only DOES can convince me of the efficiency, good intentions and effectiveness of the authorities. And - the RESULT of such cases.
Sincerely .

[Alex777]

And you noticed how China immediately tensed? How did the interesting proposals from Russia immediately start pouring in?
And the two of them are already offering to fly to the moon, to deploy a joint lunar base

These are projects that have been discussed for a long time.
They did not appear yesterday.
If only we did not break the deadlines for them.
But the States are definitely tense. Because of the shares, ours decided to withdraw from the ISS project, and it will be difficult for the States to pull it in one face and there is no one to replace Russia.
This is the price of unpredictability and "America above all else."

And the Russian Federation needs to be claimed for its loyalty and neutrality

This is a purely Ukrainian approach. Demand something for something.
Great powers behave differently.

The time has come for Russia to set the conditions for its favor.

Warmer ...

And the balance of power is extremely favorable to this.

Do you understand that GDP has been preparing this alignment for a long time and persistently? Can't help but understand this?

And only DOES can convince me of the efficiency, good intentions and effectiveness of the authorities.

I don’t mind. Could be so. By the result in the hands.
I prefer to look at the "game" and at what time and in what place the parallel processes launched by the wizard will converge. It's more interesting this way.

[bayard]

Quote: Alex777

And the Russian Federation needs to be claimed for its loyalty and neutrality

This is a purely Ukrainian approach. Demand something for something.
Great powers behave differently.

Well, how would Stalin at one time take advantage of the situation of the Great Depression and carry out Industrialization. And in 10 years he brought the USSR to the 2nd place in industrial production in the world. By 1939
But there was also a game between the rising United States and England, which did not want to fall. WWII was needed by the United States in order to drop Britain, by involving it in a new war in Europe. And Germany and the USSR were chosen as combatants in this war - thesis and antithesis.
And it was Stalin's competent bargaining on the conditions of the Industrialization of the USSR that led our country to success and the ability to play independently.
Today the Russian Federation is neither a sovereign (fully) nor a leading (among the leading) state. Of the great, only nuclear potential and the remnants of the Soviet economy and the military-industrial complex.

Quote: Alex777

And the balance of power is extremely favorable to this.

Do you understand that GDP has been preparing this alignment for a long time and persistently? Can't help but understand this?

A lot of things were being prepared in our world. There were huge plans, there were promises ... but there is not even an ideology and purpose in the existence of some kind of education on the ruins of the Empire.
Generations have changed.
The planners of cunning plans grew old and died ...
The state is dying out and degrading.
Power does not associate itself with an intemal part of the People ...
Maybe this was the purpose of "Cunning Plans"?
When food prices rise despite unprecedented harvests and record deliveries abroad ... When all categories of goods suddenly rise in price by one and a half, two or two and a half times ... when the "pension reform" is carried out and new taxes and fees immediately appear ... When the question is raised (and has been voiced more than once) about the abolition of pensions in general - as such. "Let the children contain" ...

Quote: Alex777

Do you understand that GDP has been preparing this alignment for a long time and persistently? Can't help but understand this?

Over the past year and a half, many secrets have been revealed. And perhaps that is better - the illusions have disappeared.
There is a concept of legal capacity and qualifications. And these concepts also apply to the authorities. According to these criteria, it is assessed. And the assessment of the current one, alas, is low.
It's just the result of a huge period of time and missed opportunities - on the face.
Here you can look by industry. It is possible according to programs - declared and successfully failed ... It is possible according to the standard of living, the dynamics of this level and the demographic situation ... The conditions for all this are created and controlled by the authorities. If the results are such, then the power, alas, is the same ...
You can't always blame your predecessors. A capable leadership, even with a much worse start, gave a disproportionately higher and higher quality result. There are plenty of examples of this both in our history and in the world.
Therefore, despite the uniquely emerging layouts in favor of the Russian Federation, there is little confidence that this will be used correctly, competently and for the good ...

Quote: Alex777

I prefer to look at the "game" and at what time and in what place the parallel processes launched by the wizard will converge. It's more interesting this way.

I have been watching these mind games for a long time. And I myself make plans much (in 1992 my program saved the oil industry of the Russian Federation from collapse ... and a subsequent sale) ... And sometimes it seemed that everything really worked out ... But the unique opportunities were brilliantly about ... loved, time wasted, time won was not used correctly ...
Negative selection at all levels of government took place a long time ago, has become bronzed and is bearing fruit ...
It remains only to rely on popular wisdom: "Whatever the rake teaches, but the heart believes in miracles ...".
Let's wait for miracles.

[smart ass]

Chinese newspaper praises India ?! Where is this world heading

[bayard]

Quote: Clever man

Where this world is heading

They are afraid to stay alone. You want to live - not so raskoryachishsya.
But such an alignment is only good for China - it may be overwhelmed by arrogance ... But China has already chosen the path of endless cunning.

[URAL72]

This is true, but as far as I know the mentality of the Indians, they will not take sides. And they do not have a strategic potential. Until. Taking into account the development of nuclear missile potential, attempts in the aircraft missile industry, the construction of aircraft carriers and a nuclear submarine, in 20 years India may enter the global arena. Given the reminiscent confrontation between China and the United States, India's economic development could outpace China's growth. In general, India is destined for the role of the fourth power in the world, incl. militarily. And here we must not miss our chance to take the place of an influential partner. Now it is important not to lose the tender on submarines - you will have to share technologies, otherwise there is no way.

[smart ass]

Pha Indians are dying on the western front of the Russian Federation))) this is something new

[den3080]

Russia has two strong allies - China and India

I want to ask Sohu: Which of the following countries plays the role of the army, and which of the navy?

[JD1979]

Quote: den3080

I want to ask Sohu: Which of the following countries plays the role of the army, and which of the navy?

As it has been said more than once - the quartermasters win wars))) and since Russia, unlike the USSR, does not have a normal industry, these countries will just play the role of logistics support from medicines (90% + raw materials come from India and China) to possibly military equipment.

[Alex777]

since Russia, unlike the USSR, does not have a normal industry,

Last year's snow.
The States conducted research and came to the unequivocal conclusion that in the conditions of a modern, full-scale, nuclear war, no reproduction of equipment and weapons is possible and they will have to rely only on the available stocks of weapons.
Establishing bases around the world helps the United States to disperse its stockpiles of weapons.

[venik]

Quote: Normal ok

Against the backdrop of confrontation with China and Pakistan, India is confidently moving towards the West.

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But on half wayand "accidentally" turned out to be Russia .......

[prior]

Disclaimer
It is China and India that have a strong and reliable ally, Russia.
We are not appointed an ally, it is we who decide - with whom to have or not to have ...

[Dym71]

Quote: prior

We are not appointed as an ally, it is we who decide - with whom to have or not to have ...

Quote: V.S. Chernomyrdin

- And those who survive will laugh themselves later!

[JD1979]

Quote: prior

We are not appointed as an ally

Are you sure about that?))

Quote: prior

we decide - with whom to have or not to have ...

So far, it turns out more that it is the "allies" who decide to have or not have Russia, and for a long time it turned out very painless and pleasant for the gentlemen))) since the young lady issued anxious groans and light warnings in response))) But in recent years, it seems like Attempts have begun to give hands.

[Puler]

Russia has an Army and a Navy! these allies are enough to force the US to calm ... the rest of the situational allies ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: Puler

other situational allies ...

More precisely, not allies, but temporary fellow travelers.

[Real Pilot]

India, despite all attempts by the West to re-subordinate it to itself, continues military-technical cooperation with Russia

And there, too, there is a strong memory of the Western colonialists, the "burden of the white man", the British Museum full of historical artifacts and other "delights" of British rule.
Reassign?
And Russia is a counterweight, it supplies arms not just as a colonizer, but as an ally. At the same time, he does not dictate the political agenda, he respects sovereignty.

The Sipaev uprising. The British managed to be remembered there ...

[mark1]

in the event of a military conflict between the United States and Russia, India is likely to side with the latter.

Oh-oh-oh !!! So, right along with China, he will perform ... but hand in hand, chest to the meeting!

[spectr]

So they will stand up.

[den3080]

Quote: spectr

So they will stand up.

Russia, as I understand it, in a motorcycle helmet ...
So?

[Civil]

The United States is trying to establish world domination, but Russia is hindering them in this, becoming the main geopolitical adversary.

And how does it interfere? Does it introduce sanctions? Raises taxes and retirement age?

[Incvizitor]

Instead of an American base in Crimea, Ukraine was turned into a suitcase without a handle, Syria was not allowed to be plundered, and Turkey was not allowed to be captured.

[jncnfdybr]

India is a dubious ally.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

From all the comments read above, I conclude: Sohu is specifically wrong. So do we - the readers of VO - need materials from such an incompetent publication in the future?

[Avior]

Two strong allies are helping Russia to confront the United States - China and India.

how are you! allies, it turns out. Both at once?

[rocket757]

Sohu: Russia has two strong allies - China and India

... Everything is very relative .... so today, but tomorrow ??? yes fig knows how tomorrow will be.

[cniza]

I think that they are temporary fellow travelers, and China is striving for hegemony and then may become an enemy ...

[rocket757]

Everyone has their own goals and objectives ... may coincide in direction, but this, as a rule, is not forever.

[cniza]

And the position of China is still suitable for us ...

[rocket757]

The question is ... multi-layered, but as always the most important thing is how we behave ourselves, we can put and defend our position ...

[cniza]

As long as China itself is interested in us, we need to consolidate our interests ...

[rocket757]

Interest, it can be different and expect from them that when they realize their Iteres, they will also take into account our ... naive!
They will be FORCED to take into account our interests as much as we can defend them!
This is a common world practice. THIS IS THE WORLD!

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

They will be FORCED to take into account our interests as much as we can defend them!
This is a common world practice. THIS IS THE WORLD!

That's what I'm talking about ...

[rocket757]

Many people understand this, but, unfortunately, not all ... moreover, they do not want to learn from other people's mistakes, which is not Gut!

[cniza]

Yes, many want everything at once, and that they would have nothing for it ...

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

Sohu: Russia has two strong allies - China and India

... Everything is very relative .... so today, but tomorrow ??? yes fig knows how tomorrow will be.

In my opinion, this Chinese edition behaves like all oriental people - it smiles benevolently, but what it really thinks is hidden behind smiles and bows.

[rocket757]

The likelihood of that is great ... not great, something new.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

The likelihood of that is great ... not great, something new.

We wanted to emphasize the importance of relations with China. Remind you of your strength

[rocket757]

Conversations, conversations ... only real deeds are important.

[Gardamir]

Interestingly in this SoHe Topvar is also quoted?

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Gardamir

Interestingly in this SoHe Topvar is also quoted?

Perhaps there is a Chinese translation

[cniza]

Thus, according to the Chinese newspaper, two strong allies - China and India - are helping Russia to resist the United States.

This is certainly good, but we need to rely only on ourselves.

[Lynx2000]

The Chinese edition Sohu writes about this:
Firstly, this is China, with which Russia has a strategic partnership, and secondly, India, which has high positions in the international ranking.
Thus, according to the Chinese newspaper, two strong allies - China and India - are helping Russia to resist the United States.

First, in light of the recent "border relations" between China and India, it is strange to hear such comments about India from the Chinese media.
Secondly, China has and maintains partnership relations (if I am not mistaken) with Pakistan.
Thirdly, oh, these "allys", when they smell of fried, immediately "bhai-bhai and yoi-yohau".
Fourthly, their Chinese wisdom about a clever monkey on a tree waiting for the tigers to fight, there is a saying (Alexander III): Russia has two allies: the army and the navy. What we should not forget when listening to "oil" about "partnership, friendship, etc."

[Roma 1977]

Better to have Petrov and Boshirov in hand than China and India in the sky.

[Marachuh]

It's funny! Such allys will stand on the sidelines at best, otherwise they can also climb into the D.Vostok. We must strengthen our army without options!

[Knell wardenheart]

India is a state securely locked in its geography, located in the Non-Aligned Movement, which is in very good relations with everyone (except China and Pakistan, perhaps) - they have NO motivation to get into any union, this will not give them territorial gains or some a qualitative economic breakthrough due to new markets (taking into account the losses of the markets of potential opponents of such an alliance). In addition to these factors, it is worth recognizing that ideologically India nevertheless gravitates towards the traditions of the Western world and Western democracies, does not get along with China and Pakistan as an ally of China - that is, in general, it is more likely that India will participate in some kind of Western bloc than in the anti western (although this probability is negligible).

We have good relations with the Hindus, but we should not equate huckstering and alliances.

[Reserve buildbat]

Russia has two strong allies: the "conventional" army and the "nuclear triad"

[Tarantul]

It seems to me that you need to understand that they are not all our friends and that they are doing that it is profitable for them, but it is profitable for them to sign for Russia, because after the death of Russia they will be crushed "just once", because they are not fighters. So is Central Asia

[New Year day]

With such allies and enemies it is not necessary - they are too opportunistic and strive to twist their hands. The Chinese are worried - the main question on them at the meeting

[kamakama]

Do they know about it? Well that they are allies :) And then suddenly it is a surprise for them. Moreover, China and India do not love each other too much, to put it mildly

[Ryaruav]

Russia should not have allies other than the army and the navy, but should have interests that are carried out with the help of the army and the navy

[Diverter]

Army and Navy !!!! The rest are temporary unreliable partners.