In Poland, the German MP was accused of lying because of the words about the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact

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The Polish edition Nasz Dziennik published an interview with Professor Wieslaw Vysotsky, who heads the department stories XNUMXth and XNUMXth centuries at the Faculty of History at the Cardinal Stefan Wyszyński University in Warsaw. Vysotsky made an interesting conclusion: in Germany, according to him, National Socialism is still alive, as allegedly evidenced by the words of the deputy Gauland.

The Polish professor did not give any sensible assessment of the words of the German deputy, but he accused him of Goebbels' propaganda. Meanwhile, the deputy only drew attention to the political benefits of the pact for the USSR at that time, that is, it was an attempt to simply analyze the meaning of the actions of the German and Soviet leadership.



Further, the Polish professor gave the usual accusations against Germany, which allegedly pursues a pro-Russian policy to the detriment of Poland's interests, and regret that Warsaw in the European Union “put on the wrong horse”, that is, began to cooperate with Germany.

The incumbent President of the United States, Joe Biden, also suffered: he was accused of not understanding the political processes in Central Europe and attempts to pursue the policy towards Poland, started by Barack Obama. Even Roosevelt, who "wove intrigues against Poland," recalled Mr. Vysotsky in this context.

On the whole, the text of the interview of the Polish historian testifies only to one thing: in its nationalist ambitions, Poland sometimes forgets about political reality and turns against itself not only Russia, with which "everything is clear," but also Germany and even the United States.
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  1. +9
    16 June 2021 09: 07
    For that historical period, the conclusion of the Treaty with Germany was the right decision, even because the territories of the western regions of Belarus and Ukraine were included in the USSR. And the Tribalts have calmed down with their anti-Soviet rhetoric.
    1. +6
      16 June 2021 09: 15
      Quote: AlexGa
      For that historical period, the conclusion of the Treaty with Germany was the right decision, even because the territories of the western regions of Belarus and Ukraine were included in the USSR.

      That's it! And the Poles thought that the Nazis would give them this territory! And they do not understand that Germany made a conclusion from those times, but the Poles, it seems, did not. However, they may well grab a "piece of Ukraine". The cards of the Poles were issued unmeasured. They can and do "protect their population", give only a sign.
      1. +18
        16 June 2021 09: 26
        Then, from the mouth of the Polish professor, the usual accusations went about Germany, which allegedly pursues a pro-Russian policy to the detriment of Poland's interests,

        And why does this professor not recall how the Poles and Hitler derbania Czechoslovakia and how they did not let the USSR troops to help the Czechs? Probably because the interests of Poland were the same as those of Hitler. Yes
      2. +6
        16 June 2021 09: 36
        In terms of political thinking, this is "Ukraine # 2" ...
        H-o-x-l-o-virus is contagious.
        Or, on the contrary, it was in Ukraine that they were infected with Polish "ambition"?
        1. +1
          17 June 2021 22: 46
          that "ambition" that "gonorrhea"))))
      3. +13
        16 June 2021 09: 39
        Poland is a Nazi country itself: it suppresses small peoples on its territory, pursuing a policy of assimilation, refuses to accept migrants from Africa and Asia, puts Poles above other peoples. Polish Nazism has deep historical roots. For centuries Poland pursued a policy of genocide and destruction of the Russian people. Hitler is just the heir and pitiful dropout of the Polish Nazis. Polish Nazism is very aggressive. Poles have territorial claims to all their neighbors. Ukrainian fascists were trained in Polish camps for training in the armed seizure of power in Ukraine. They are still used by Poland as a battering ram against the Russian people. Poland is one of the main organizers of the Maidan in Belarus, planning to seize the western regions of the country from it. Protasevich worked in Warsaw and was financed by the Polish special services.
        Poland is a fascist country by definition, which it proved during WWII by handing over all Polish Jews to concentration camps for subsequent extermination.
        Poland has a good appetite, only rotten teeth.
        1. 0
          16 June 2021 12: 06
          On the whole, I agree with your assessment, but this can be credited to the Polish authorities, if only because they are similarly saving Europe from becoming savage with the new barbarians:
          Quote: Bearded
          ... refuses to accept migrants from Africa and Asia, .....
          .
          1. +1
            16 June 2021 15: 09
            Poland's refusal to accept immigrants from Asia and Africa is the right decision that our country should have adopted, but it was dictated not by the defense of its nation, but solely by Nazism and Polish ambition. On its territory, Poland is pursuing a policy of assimilation of national minorities, Ukrainians, Belarusians and others.
          2. 0
            17 June 2021 08: 24
            Well, yes, Polish savages are still closer than African and Asian ones.
            1. -5
              17 June 2021 12: 15
              Quote: Andrey Shiryaev
              Well, yes, Polish savages are still closer than African and Asian ones.

              Ask the white population of America how they are now living with the blacks, and then you will understand that we will be calmer with the Poles, at least they understand where the real threat comes from, and not the mythical one.
              1. 0
                17 June 2021 12: 32
                I agree with you, completely and completely.
      4. +5
        16 June 2021 11: 49
        Quote: Egoza
        That's it! And the Poles thought that the Nazis would give them this territory!

        Well, the Poles had reasons for that. Germany gave them in 1938 to participate in the partition of Czechoslovakia. But it is not customary to remember this. After all, in fact, the beginning of the Second World War (more precisely, the continuation of the First World War) took place in the first days of October 1938, when German and Polish troops set in motion and captured part of Czechoslovakia, the Germans of the Sudetenland, and the Poles of the Teshin region. In early November of the same year, they were joined by Hungary, which seized the part of Slovakia and Transcarpathian Rus belonging to Czechoslovakia.
        1. +2
          16 June 2021 15: 13
          The Poles really do not like to remember that they were Hitler's allies against Czechoslovakia. It was Poland that pulled the cork from the bottle with WWII inside with the connivance of France and Great Britain. And the whole WWII Poland worked tirelessly with enthusiasm for the glory of the Third Reich.
          1. +2
            16 June 2021 19: 58
            The Poles also do not like to remember how they planned to bite off the territory from the USSR.
    2. +1
      16 June 2021 11: 45
      I agree.
      At that time, it was the best of the worst decisions.
      There were simply no better solutions.
      England and France and, of course, Poland, did their best in this matter.
  2. +9
    16 June 2021 09: 13
    This is for domestic consumption, more Poles have died fighting with us, on the side of the Nazis, than in the Polish Army.
  3. +4
    16 June 2021 09: 17
    The conclusion is simple: it is Poland that should rule in the European Union and NATO (well, in NATO, maybe with some US participation, although not necessarily).
    1. +7
      16 June 2021 09: 25
      Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
      it is Poland that should rule in the European Union and NATO (well, in NATO, maybe with some US participation, although not necessarily).

      You don't need to pedal a lot, but the Poles should steer! The three partitions of Poland seem to be hinting! laughing
      1. +3
        16 June 2021 10: 41
        They seem to be secretly dreaming of a fourth.
  4. +5
    16 June 2021 09: 19
    How to spoil relations with their employers and at the same time beg / demand alms under any political sauce, without even blinking - they (Poles) know how! They even pass on their experience to a neighbor: and that diligent student, on the fly, grasps everything.
  5. +8
    16 June 2021 09: 20
    In its nationalist ambitions, Poland sometimes forgets about political reality and turns against itself not only Russia, with which "everything is clear," but also Germany and even the United States.
    He always argued that Poland can exist only under someone's leadership. As soon as its leadership, it is unknown why and how chosen, gets the opportunity to pursue an "independent" policy, the "hyena of Europe" (s) instantly gets to the point that it gets snot and again becomes someone's outskirts.
  6. +3
    16 June 2021 09: 25
    in its nationalist ambitions, Poland sometimes forgets
    all this is not selective, there is, there is not ... EVERYWHERE IS.
    1. +3
      16 June 2021 10: 18
      Poland won't calm down until it gets kicked ...
      1. +2
        16 June 2021 10: 49
        Restless, however ... after all the kicks they were weighed, they could learn to think, measure their wishes, with their capabilities.
        1. +2
          16 June 2021 11: 01
          This is theirs, like the horses, there is no one wishlist in memory ...
  7. +4
    16 June 2021 09: 28
    The cleverly-noble patronage manages to inflict srach with all the neighbors, and this happens from partition to partition.
  8. +1
    16 June 2021 09: 30
    The incumbent President of the United States, Joe Biden, also suffered: he was accused of not understanding the political processes in Central Europe and attempts to pursue the policy towards Poland, started by Barack Obama. Even Roosevelt, who "wove intrigues against Poland," recalled Mr. Vysotsky in this context.

    Naive Polish politicians want to play their part ?!
    For decades, the US authorities unceremoniously “supported democracy” in many countries, including Poland, effectively investing in the political market.
    The policy of the West, and especially the American one, is guided by the trading bazaar principles - the one who pays the most is right.

    Member of the National Development Council under the President of Poland, Professor at the University of Warsaw Witold Modzielewski wrote an article for the publication Myśl Polska
    Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1623391366
  9. +2
    16 June 2021 09: 34
    from the mouth of a Polish professor, the usual accusations went to Germany, which allegedly pursues a pro-Russian policy to the detriment of Poland's interests

    Forgetting that the third part of modern Poland is the Territory of Germany - Prussia and Pomerania. And for some reason they do not make claims to Ukraine for their East Kresy.
    But to blame Roosevelt and Biden for their problems is not at all from that opera.
    1. +3
      16 June 2021 09: 59
      Quote: tihonmarine
      But to blame Roosevelt and Biden for their problems is not at all from that opera.

      Well, it depends on how you look at it. The money from the EU, which was generously given to the Poles for the economy, ran out. So why isn't Biden thinking about it? Let him now give and solve Polish problems
      1. +2
        16 June 2021 10: 26
        Quote: Egoza
        So why isn't Biden thinking about it? Let him now give and solve Polish problems

        Well, yes, from the Americans to expect money, like a "cow goat of milk." Yankees don’t give anything for free, not even bait for a mousetrap. Business.
  10. +5
    16 June 2021 09: 37
    ".... Vysotsky made an interesting conclusion: in Germany, according to him, National Socialism is still alive ..."
    On this issue, the Poles did not run far from Germany. Throughout its history, Poland has been a nationalist state. The level of nationalism fell slightly during the period of people's rule, but recently it tends to the level of the times of Pilsudski. That is why Poland, together with Ukraine, has an extraordinary talent for quarreling with almost all of its neighbors. And if Germany, with its nationalistic character, is capable of pragmatic economic cooperation, Poland today makes the economy dependent on Russophobic policies in the absence of real arguments to explain this Russophobia, except for some "historical pain." Outside political scientists in all this see Poland as unhealthy imperial ambitions and claims to at least regional domination. And this is at a time when all the shifts in economic growth are explained not by the real level of production, but by simple substantial cash infusions from the EU budget and loans from the same Germany. laughing In general, Poles are true to their traditions of Catherine's times.
    1. +2
      16 June 2021 10: 00
      т
      o Poland today makes the economy dependent on Russophobic policies in the absence of real arguments to explain this Russophobia, except for some "historical pain"
      .
      Before WWII it was the same.
  11. +4
    16 June 2021 09: 59
    Why is Poland in the 30s better than Germany? The eagle pecked at the jackal. And serves him right.
  12. +2
    16 June 2021 10: 10
    How typical. The hyena of Europe is offended by everyone.
    INTO that in Europe shatnets and dobiutsa 4. section.
    1. +3
      16 June 2021 12: 38
      Quote: CastroRuiz
      The hyena of Europe is offended by everyone.

      Even the Slovaks offended this morning. Moreover, it happened with us, at the "ZENIT-ARENA". fellow laughing
  13. +3
    16 June 2021 10: 16
    On the whole, the text of the interview of the Polish historian testifies only to one thing: in its nationalist ambitions, Poland sometimes forgets about political reality and turns against itself not only Russia, with which "everything is clear," but also Germany and even the United States.


    Everything in history repeats itself and Poland can again be interrogated ...
  14. CYM
    +1
    16 June 2021 10: 48
    To begin with, the historian professor should have remembered why Poland was called the hyena of Europe. winked https://vz.ru/politics/2019/9/17/998043.html
  15. +2
    16 June 2021 11: 10
    The role of Poland, Ukraine and the Baltics on the world stage is similar to the role of fleas in the animal kingdom. They don't seem to interfere much, but why they exist at all is not clear.
    1. +1
      16 June 2021 11: 41
      Marachuh
      Today, 11: 10
      NEW
      +1
      Role Poland, Ukraine and the Baltics on the world stage, similar to the role of fleas in the animal kingdom
      Misunderstanding of Nature. bully
  16. 0
    16 June 2021 11: 39
    The incumbent President of the United States, Joe Biden, also suffered: he was accused of not understanding the political processes in Central Europe and attempts to pursue the policy towards Poland, started by Barack Obama.
    the poliyaki got wild ... laughing now baida get ready for an answer! laughing
  17. +2
    16 June 2021 11: 59
    Psheki persistently climb into the sawmill under the section. Time after time, century after century ... And their rhetoric is now the same as that of the Skakuas. Delusional.
  18. 0
    16 June 2021 13: 04
    Poland behaves this way from century to century. Everyone has long understood everything about her. Only this does not prevent Western countries from using it in their interests ...
  19. +1
    16 June 2021 13: 26
    "In its nationalist ambitions, Poland sometimes forgets about political reality and turns against itself not only Russia, with which" everything is clear, "but also Germany and even the United States."
    They forget the story, déjà vu is straightforward, then Poland is stupidly dividing so that they do not deal with garbage
  20. +1
    16 June 2021 14: 14
    Poland resembles a Polish anecdote. Pan saw a beautiful lady and began to persuade her. She's not in any, I'm married and I have a child. Indeed, the lady had a child. Then the pan offered such money that the lady could not refuse. In general, they found some nook and cranny and the pan settled down. Then the child began to cry. Pani gave the child tsitsku. Then a policeman accidentally walks into the back street, he went nuts. Tso is the lady robbing? Madam, the child is years old. And what about the pan? Pani - and pan milk pomp. Poland has and is pumped. Here are boobies. They wanted, together with Germany, to attack the USSR, and when it did not work out, the USSR had to protect Mrs. Poland from her friend who pomped her.
  21. +1
    17 June 2021 02: 34
    Poland is our centuries-old enemy, since the 17th century, at least. The reason, I think, is the historical envy of Russia, which has become a great empire. This is not given to the Poles, they are too small, like the Ukrainians. They can exist only in the composition or under the supervision of "elders". Alas for them ...
  22. 0
    17 June 2021 10: 00
    And this "historian" does not want to make "interesting conclusions" about the Munich Agreement of 1938 ... and Poland's active participation in its consequences ?!
    And maybe even "interesting conclusions" in relation to the Pilsudski-Hitler Pact of 1934 to be made! Oh! And who is next to his beloved Pilsudski ?! Is the very same Joseph the author of that very Goebbels propaganda ?! wink
  23. 0
    17 June 2021 11: 55
    Poles are quibbles .. The former might of the Commonwealth does not let the local bosses sleep (just like Erdogan was the former greatness of the Ottoman Empire) .. The lion's share of the confrontation that led to its decline belongs to Russia. All revenge is directed against her. Only their scanty brains are unable to remember how the European persecution of the "Russian bear" ended .. Apparently they forgot how the Russian troops trampled their territory back and forth to Berlin and Paris. They do not remember much help in rebuilding after WWII (when half of the Soviet Union itself lay in ruins, these monsters were allocated food, industrial goods, and human resources) ... He was a good uncle Yos, another would have sent all this husk to people's construction sites, yes on the reservation, and I would clean up the territory for myself.
  24. 0
    17 June 2021 23: 12
    Quote: Napayz
    that "ambition" that "gonorrhea"))))

    And then! lol