Kiev in advance refused to recognize the decisions of Biden and Putin on Ukraine

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The meeting between US and Russian Presidents Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin has not yet taken place, and Kiev has already refused to recognize the decisions that could be made at the meeting. This was stated by Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba.

The head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, acting in the role of the main newsmaker of Ukraine in recent days, said that Kiev will not recognize the decisions made by Biden and Putin in Geneva if they somehow concern Ukraine. According to him, Kiev trusts the American president, but since the issue of Ukraine is one of the most important, they warn that there is no need to make decisions behind Ukraine's back.



(...) I absolutely do not care that President Biden will speak with President Putin. But we will not allow and will not accept any agreements reached in any format regarding Ukraine behind our back, without us. This is a tough and principled position (...)

- said the Ukrainian minister the day before.

Meanwhile, according to experts, Kiev is overestimating its ability to somehow influence the decisions made during the meeting between Biden and Putin, especially in the part of the people's republics of Donbass. All of Kuleba's rhetoric is aimed at Ukrainian citizens in order to show that the Kiev authorities have leverage on the United States and Russia. In fact, nothing depends on Kiev.

As previously reported, Kiev is afraid that the United States and Russia will come to terms with each other, and Ukraine will become a "bargaining chip".
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  1. +23
    15 June 2021 16: 45
    Durilka cardboard. He thought it would be different. lol lol
    1. +20
      15 June 2021 16: 47
      Vassals are not asked. They just obey.
      1. KAV
        +12
        15 June 2021 16: 57
        (...) I absolutely do not care that President Biden will speak with President Putin. But we will not allow and will not accept any agreements reached in any format regarding Ukraine behind our back, without us. This is a tough and principled position (...)
        For such speeches, they might even throw him out of his post (or from the roof), by accident ... Look, how he got into conversation. And where did you get so much courage? Or is this not courage, but stupidity? An authorized uncle, or aunt, from the State Department will arrive - and at once all his tough positions will become sooo soft, and he will become much more worried.
        1. +13
          15 June 2021 17: 06
          When the main clown, his entourage is a big top wassat
          1. +6
            15 June 2021 17: 17
            Well, why didn't you finish talking to Kuleba?
            But we will not allow ...
            , But not that ..... By the way, not WHAT?
            1. +3
              15 June 2021 17: 34
              Not a fig will give way to the West.
              They are second only to strength.
              1. 0
                15 June 2021 17: 59
                It was Kuleba who pretended to be an obstinate disobedient vassal of the Americans only for the inner suckers. And everything that is ordered will be fulfilled. But they are afraid. afraid. laughing
                1. +2
                  15 June 2021 18: 20
                  (...) I absolutely do not care that President Biden will speak with President Putin. But we will not allow and will not accept any agreements reached in any format regarding Ukraine behind our back, without us. This is a tough and principled position (...)
                  - said on the eve of the Ukrainian Foreign Minister Kuleba.

                  Kuleba is completely nuts! fool
                  Yes you, Kuleba, first the second tranche of the promised loan for Ukraine - for a bankrupt country - from the IMF (i.e. from the structure of the US FRS) get it! And then pee against the wind at your master from Washington!
                  To me too: Kuleba is a festering Ukrainian political pimple out of the blue!
                2. 0
                  15 June 2021 18: 34
                  They are afraid that the new game will start with the Ukrainian gambit. The only question is, does Putin need this sacrificial pawn? Or he will take it a little later, with the interception of the initiative
      2. +18
        15 June 2021 17: 02
        they are not vassals. Vassals are Brits, Hans, etc. and the psheks and the Ukrainians with the Chukhonts are simply the population of the trophy territories.
        1. 0
          15 June 2021 17: 50
          Vassals are Brits, Hans, etc. and the psheks and the Ukrainians with the Chukhonts are simply the population of the captured territories.

          You would think that there will be no talk about them? They are already sitting on pins and needles.
          1. 0
            15 June 2021 19: 02
            Quote: Alexander Kopychev
            Vassals are Brits, Hans, etc. and the psheks and the Ukrainians with the Chukhonts are simply the population of the captured territories.

            You would think that there will be no talk about them? They are already sitting on pins and needles.

            It's much easier. this is usually called a hysterical seizure with fidgeting, falling to the floor, rolling. wringing of hands, curses. spell and threats ... - That's such bullshit little ones z svidoukraYny with the letter X
            1. 0
              15 June 2021 19: 09
              I would put it more shortly - the cognitive dissonance. laughing
              1. +1
                15 June 2021 19: 15
                Quote: Alexander Kopychev
                I would put it more shortly - the cognitive dissonance. laughing

                This expression is not for svidoukroum! They will also think that you are cursing!
      3. 0
        15 June 2021 17: 09
        Quote: Evil543
        Vassals are not asked. They just obey.

        ..., and if they do not obey and do not perceive what they are told and what is required of them, they are simply bypassed as lepers and the relationship is reduced to a minimum, until they themselves crawl on their knees to the master of life.

        In general, for 30 years on the political "Olympus" of Ukraine there have been and are some inadequate and degenerates, including President Yanukovych and his Prime Minister Azarov, who are all puffed up and say utter nonsense, ditching everything that was created by Russia, the Russian Empire and the USSR, on root or bringing all this to a deplorable state in the once prosperous republic of the USSR.

        Kuleb and others like him do not feel sorry for the territory and economy of the republic, which they undeservedly received, turning into a dull semblance of a country.
        1. +2
          15 June 2021 18: 19
          Quote: credo
          including President Yanukovych and his Prime Minister Azarov, who are all puffed up and carry utter nonsense, ditching everything that was created by Russia, the Russian Empire and the USSR,

          You don't need to roll a barrel on Azarov! He was the only adequate and intelligent prime minister, perhaps of all prime ministers during the "Square", who slowly raised the country's GDP. And they ate him precisely for this, although they clung to ignorance of the Ukrainian language
          1. -1
            15 June 2021 18: 30
            Hush hush. I apologize, Azarov and Viktor. I was drowned for the European Association until they were hit in the head. Unscrew the film back. In 2013, no one really read the package, and when they realized that it was a "point", they started a song about us.
            We look silly, but all the moves are recorded.
          2. -1
            15 June 2021 18: 41
            It is not necessary to raise the GDP after the 2008 crisis a lot. Roughly speaking, there was the usual depreciation and economic recovery after a sharp recession (and it was like that everywhere), therefore, attributing the increase in GDP to Azarov's account is the wildest absurd, he was just lucky to become prime minister after the crisis, like many other populist politicians around the world at that time , this is where his strategy of lifting the GDP from its knees ended.
            1. 0
              15 June 2021 19: 43
              (and it was like that everywhere)

              And yet in Ukraine, the recovery after the crisis went noticeably slower and more problematic than in any of its neighbors. As well as the "drawdown" of the economy during the crisis was almost a record in Europe. If, for example, Moldova and Georgia have surpassed you in terms of economic growth, you should think very hard.
              1. +1
                15 June 2021 21: 44
                This once again demonstrates the utter incompetence of the Yanukovych / Azarov government, which is almost extolled at VO, saying that they "developed the economy" and so on.
                1. -2
                  15 June 2021 21: 51
                  Come on .. A question for connoisseurs, When the crisis ended in which by the way the most sagged, and when the incompetent government of Yanukovych and Azarov came to power?
                  1. 0
                    16 June 2021 13: 14
                    Come on, but experts take into account that, due to objective reasons, part of Eastern Europe and the CIS fell under the influence of the crisis 1-1,5 years later and began to move away from the consequences exactly by the beginning of the rule of Yanukovych and Azarov? Or do connoisseurs prefer not to remember such conventions?)
                    1. +1
                      16 June 2021 13: 31
                      that part of Eastern Europe and the CIS, due to objective reasons, fell under the influence of the crisis for 1-1,5 years

                      Menia for more than a year, more likely for half a year - well, 9 months. By the new 2009, everything was already in full growth.
                      Well, that is, it turns out that they fell below everyone else, not under Yanukovych, but under the "supporters"?
          3. +2
            15 June 2021 19: 03
            Quote: Egoza
            You don't need to roll a barrel on Azarov! He was the only adequate and intelligent prime minister, perhaps of all prime ministers during the "Square", who slowly raised the country's GDP. And they ate him precisely for this, although they clung to ignorance of the Ukrainian language


            This is from an interview with Gordon:
            “I have never been against the association of Ukraine and the EU. On the contrary, I have been conducting difficult, persistent negotiations for three years to develop a text of the agreement that would be beneficial for Ukraine. But when I didn’t succeed, our government didn’t succeed - I must say frankly that it didn’t work because there were a number of large and serious contradictions. We needed to find a common language with both Russia and the European Union. It was precisely this agreement that did not work out ...

            I would not argue that Yanukovych is a deeply pro-Russian person. Since I know him well enough - Yanukovych all these years, while I worked with him, was guided, as prime minister, by the interests of the Ukrainian economy, as president - by the interests of the Ukrainian people. It was so real.

            And the question of signing the Association Agreement was, I stress once again, in a completely different way. We want to have Ukraine as a European country, "Azarov said."

            Somehow, your statement does not stick to the real deeds of the leadership of Ukraine, the times of Yanukovych and Azarov. The desire to sit on two chairs has not yet brought anyone to good, but Yanukovych and Azarov apparently thought differently.
      4. +2
        15 June 2021 17: 18
        This type with a clear, radiant look (Kuleba), would look good behind the lattice window of a psychiatric dispensary. crying
        1. +1
          15 June 2021 18: 18
          He reminds me of an inflated and pompous turkey with his appearance.)))))))) lol
      5. +3
        15 June 2021 17: 44
        The can will still remember how his hands were twisted with a phone call.
        1. +1
          15 June 2021 18: 21
          Quote: TermNachTER
          The can will still remember how his hands were twisted with a phone call.

          Rather, he will remember how they "clung" to his son. Maybe he won't say, but this, he certainly won't forget
      6. -1
        15 June 2021 18: 07
        the current regime in Ukraine is not vassaly.oni-HOLUI.
      7. -1
        15 June 2021 19: 41
        What kind of vassals are they? Adults will simply agree on how to share this territory without interfering with each other.
      8. 0
        15 June 2021 23: 26
        Quote: Evil543
        Vassals are not asked. They just obey.

        And women with reduced social responsibility are even less asked, they are simply put in a position.
    2. +7
      15 June 2021 17: 15
      And Baba Yaga is against it! lol
      The independence of Ukraine is when nothing depends on them ...

      And they were part of the USSR - so half the world respected, and the other half was afraid, but the whole World depended on the decisions of the Huge Country! Everyone listened. Addiction is so ...
      1. +1
        15 June 2021 17: 43
        Quote: RealPilot
        Kiev will not recognize the decisions made by Biden and Putin in Geneva if they somehow concern Ukraine.

        Without money, without resources, with a collapsed industry and with all this, an attempt to dictate their terms to the United States and Russia ...
        Proud but useless!
        1. +3
          15 June 2021 17: 50
          I wonder what levers of pressure the beggar has?
    3. +2
      15 June 2021 17: 55
      Sounds like henpecked bragging)
      says one such, they say the other day he sent his wife ...
      all friends are henpecked: "You are cool! Well done! How did this happen?"
      this one answers: "my wife asks me to wash my linen, and I told her, send me, I still haven't washed the dishes"))
    4. +8
      15 June 2021 18: 10
      so now?? Zelensky is no longer his beloved wife ??
    5. 0
      15 June 2021 18: 19
      Quote: Assyrian
      Durilka cardboard. He thought it would be different. lol lol

      That's for sure)) "Well, crazy, what will you take" In Vysotsky
      This is a tough and principled position (...)

      Until the first shout from the USA, and then they will immediately begin to bring the information base under the agreement laughing
    6. +1
      15 June 2021 20: 00
      Quote: Assyrian
      Durilka cardboard. He thought it would be different. lol lol

      =======
      And if suddenly ... (THERE) They decide to attach the "outskirts" to NATA ....
      That "hohlopitheki" - this "rescript" - also DO NOT RECOGNIZE ??? bully "... Well, they said that: ... " I am absolutely not worried that President Biden will speak to President Putin: "... But we will not allow and will not accept any agreements reached in any format regarding Ukraine ....." belay
    7. +1
      15 June 2021 20: 06
      Well done! He put himself on the block.))
    8. +2
      15 June 2021 20: 30
      According to him, Kiev trusts the American president, but since the issue of Ukraine is one of the most important, they warn that there is no need to make decisions behind Ukraine's back.

      So yes or no? So no, or yes? They shook everyone and all these kuleby crying

      Kuleba: ... behind our back, without us. This is a tough and principled position.
      Kuleba, and otherwise, as a sign of protest, you will drown yourself over the "string" of the SP 2 pipeline? winked
    9. +2
      15 June 2021 20: 33
      Ukraine is independent. Nothing depends on her.
    10. 0
      15 June 2021 21: 54
      Only the sight of him starts to vomit, but I am already silent about the statements ...
  2. +14
    15 June 2021 16: 46
    Although not entirely correct in relation to Russia, it conveys the meaning accurately, before the Munich Agreement, Prague also had a tough, irreconcilable and principled position ... laughing
  3. +6
    15 June 2021 16: 46
    If the Barin orders Kiev will silently take it under its hood and this is a fact of Monsieur Duke (C). It was not for nothing that Biden invited Zelensky as a "guest" after meeting with Putin. And the fact that Kuleba whistles is so for the Natsik and the stoned ones. So that it doesn’t start ahead of time.
  4. Hog
    +3
    15 June 2021 16: 48
    Yeah, we believe, we believe, if Uncle Biden says to bark like a dog, you will also jump for joy.
    1. 0
      15 June 2021 17: 03
      not uncle, but grandfather
      1. +2
        15 June 2021 17: 33
        Quote: Gleb Kovalev
        not uncle, but grandfather

        They will wait for this grandfather to chase the drone like Musiy's grandfather Maxim Perepelitsa. laughing
  5. +9
    15 June 2021 16: 50
    The fat is not asked for an opinion on who will eat it ...
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  6. +7
    15 June 2021 16: 52
    I am absolutely not worried that President Biden will speak with President Putin. But we will not allow and will not accept any agreements,

    Well, Kuleba "misled the rams"! His mouth opened at the owner. Sahibs do not forgive this, and the guilty will be "flogged" with batogs.
    1. +3
      15 June 2021 17: 25
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Sahibs do not forgive this, and the guilty will be "flogged" with batogs.
      Batogami is not their method.

      Kuleba will be mistaken for a speck of dust -
      Sahib is omniscient like Vishnu,
      Beats on the heels then with reeds
      Very painful and very audible.
  7. +2
    15 June 2021 16: 54
    But what about the May statement that the United States will coordinate issues related to Ukraine with Ukraine during the meeting of the US and Russian presidents?
    Somehow (in the merry 70s) I walked through the bazaar in winter. I look at apples for 3 rubles. I came up and asked, but 4? The woman automatically answered, "no bude" Then she stood for a couple of minutes (and this is in the cold) with her mouth open ...
    1. +1
      15 June 2021 17: 36
      It's strange that she didn't catch up with you. wink
  8. +3
    15 June 2021 17: 01
    funny people, these Ukrainians! So who will ask them ?!
  9. +3
    15 June 2021 17: 04
    I am absolutely not worried that President Biden will speak with President Putin.

    "For three days I chased you to say how indifferent you are to me."
  10. +2
    15 June 2021 17: 07
    The opinion of the Indians, the sheriff is not interested!
  11. +2
    15 June 2021 17: 08
    Honor from powerlessness, this is the name of the verbal diarrhea of ​​this Kuleba
  12. +1
    15 June 2021 17: 09
    The leaders of the Kiev province are fucked up, it's not a secret to anyone.
    The closer the arctic fox with a bad end, the more squeals the pigs have.
  13. bar
    +8
    15 June 2021 17: 14
    ... I disagree, with both ...
  14. +1
    15 June 2021 17: 19
    and Kiev has already refused to recognize the decisions that can be made at the meeting. This was stated by Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba
    ... Yes, yes, the kid "lights up" .... a farewell tour, or what?
    1. +6
      15 June 2021 17: 42
      It may well turn out that these are his last days as minister ...
      1. +2
        15 June 2021 18: 08
        There is nothing else on the jump ... that you have chosen, then they have
        1. +4
          15 June 2021 18: 18
          Let's see how the United States will react to a statement so unusual for them ...
          1. +2
            15 June 2021 18: 54
            Whoever will react there, whatever the clerk, the assistant of the third assistant will poke, point a finger and roll that kuleba with a whistle ...
            1. +4
              15 June 2021 19: 09
              So I'm talking about this, and they will not call him, but Zelensky ...
              1. +2
                15 June 2021 20: 34
                Quote: cniza
                So I'm talking about this, and they will not call him, but Zelensky ...

                And, more precisely
                Quote: rocket757
                whatever clerk, assistant to third mate
                will instruct his assistant to tell Zelensky to call him back.

                hi
                1. +3
                  15 June 2021 21: 02
                  It doesn't matter to us who, to whom, where and how, it's just that the situation for the horses goes downhill and they start to twitch ...
  15. +1
    15 June 2021 17: 21
    Lord, who will ask something !?
  16. -1
    15 June 2021 17: 29
    Remove the face of this self-righteous imbecile from the screen - you that aphids thought that it could be different, if only after you !!!
  17. +1
    15 June 2021 17: 36
    The guy has forgotten that Bidon already has experience in personnel decisions in Ukraine.
  18. +1
    15 June 2021 17: 38
    Bliiin ... yes, close all the doors in this circus called "Ukraine"!
  19. +2
    15 June 2021 17: 41
    According to him, Kiev trusts the American president, but since the issue of Ukraine is one of the most important, they warn that there is no need to make decisions behind Ukraine's back.


    How formidable we are, well, well ...
  20. +1
    15 June 2021 17: 43
    Yeah, as well as canceled the "Planck constant" and the law of universal gravitation))) knowingly the minister admitted that he was a stupid person. They are all like that))))
  21. 0
    15 June 2021 17: 43
    He forgot to take a sword and wave it
  22. +2
    15 June 2021 17: 44
    Interesting. Even if (let's imagine for a moment) they agree to give up Crimea and Donbass in exchange for lifting all sanctions, not to launch a second stream and pump gas through Ukraine, will Ukraine refuse to recognize such a decision? An extremely short-sighted act.
  23. +5
    15 June 2021 17: 45
    .... somewhere in / in Ukraine
  24. 0
    15 June 2021 17: 47
    And who is this kidding on the owner? Someone seems to have played too much and forgot that they are still living only thanks to the protection and patronage of the United States.
  25. -1
    15 June 2021 17: 54
    Yes, they are all there for a long time and polls stoned. It is necessary and desirable to treat them with napalm, otherwise it is simply useless and will not reach them.
  26. 0
    15 June 2021 17: 59
    Something this kuleba is flagrantly incompetent, as the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Just for show.
  27. wow
    +1
    15 June 2021 17: 59
    "... whose will you be, stinking slave ...?"
  28. +2
    15 June 2021 18: 00
    This Kuleba - a clown even worse than Zelensky will be ... wink
    1. +1
      15 June 2021 18: 26
      Quote: Xlor
      This Kuleba is a clown even worse than Zelensky.

      He performs a "lethal act under the circus dome" - he teases the owner.
  29. 0
    15 June 2021 18: 04
    That's an aggressive idiot ... "Ukraine" does not solve anything and is worth nothing. At the moment, this is not even a pawn. This is a square of a chessboard. One of the 64s.
  30. -1
    15 June 2021 18: 09
    https://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2021-06/1623769618_2468718_original.jpg
  31. +1
    15 June 2021 18: 10
    "Kiev trusts the American president, but ...."
    Dark Ukrainian night, but the fat must be hidden!
  32. -2
    15 June 2021 18: 27
    Yes, no one asks to recognize. Their task is to fulfill. And running
  33. +2
    15 June 2021 18: 30
    ... "I absolutely don't care that President Biden speaks to President Putin" ...
    You're lying dog!
    Excites and how worried!
    All the elites who came to power through a coup d'etat are now very much afraid of what Biden and Putin will agree on.
  34. +6
    15 June 2021 18: 32
    But we will not allow ...

    Do you have a "permissive"?
  35. 0
    15 June 2021 19: 21
    And that he is so nervous, hope dies last. Not the end is afraid, but the very expectation of the end. We have an impressive delegation on the issue of Ukraine, I hope they will state their point of view on Ukraine very clearly. The US does not merge quickly, we look Afghanistan. The convulsions will be long.
  36. Here is a bespectacled turandot! And who asked you? I would be silent already in a rag and would not shine.
    The sheriff's Indians don't care about the problems!
  37. BAI
    0
    15 June 2021 19: 42
    But we will not allow and will not accept any agreements reached in any format regarding Ukraine behind our back, without us.

    Where they go, what the States say, they will do.
  38. Eug
    -1
    15 June 2021 20: 43
    Most likely, Ukraine will go under the new "roof" of England and Turkey. Thus, the contradictions between the United States and the European Union on the one hand and Russia on the other will be formally eliminated, while Ukraine's policy towards Russia and its support by the West will actually remain the same. The United States and Euro, as I understand it, do not want an aggravation of relations with Russia, which will contribute to its rapprochement with China, because of this it seems to be "fading into the shadows" ...
    1. 0
      15 June 2021 20: 52
      It is doubtful that England and Turkey will take Ukraine for feeding, because it is like a ball in that cartoon - "No income from you, only expenses." The Brits are understandable, they have historically kept a grip on Russia from the early Mesozoic to Russia, but Turkey cannot bite with us at all ..
  39. -2
    15 June 2021 20: 48
    And what, even if Biden decides to take away food stamps, you still don't accept this decision?
    1. Eug
      -1
      15 June 2021 20: 56
      There are no special coupons, but they can squeeze the oligarchy and the sorosity strongly. Well, there is still something to download from Ukraine - only now the oligarchs are engaged in this .. What I am sure is that after the meeting, Western patrons will take on Ukraine much harder, primarily in economic terms ...
      1. +1
        15 June 2021 21: 06
        It is these oligarchs who will not let the Britons and Turks go to the festive table, especially the opportunity they have, it is enough to raise a cry about the plundering of the Independence by strangers. Well, no one is going to take Ukraine for maintenance, the EU and the USA have been freezing from this honorable mission for a long time ..
  40. 0
    15 June 2021 23: 25
    I am absolutely not worried that President Biden will speak with President Putin. But we will not allow and will not accept any agreements reached in any format regarding Ukraine behind our back, without us. This is a tough and principled position.
    Whoever asks you will be, consider yourself lucky if they show you a stall where you are allowed to stand, and will not send it to the trash heap as unnecessary trash.
  41. 0
    16 June 2021 05: 19
    Disorder! - they agree to "throw" the super "power".
  42. 0
    16 June 2021 08: 38
    ***
    Kulebu prepares kulebas ...
    ***
  43. -1
    16 June 2021 08: 47
    Vassals haven’t been given their place for a long time or what? His mouth dared to open.
  44. 0
    16 June 2021 08: 55
    Well, there can be two classes of such solutions. The first is loud demands on Kiev. This nonsense can be ignored. And the second is to cut off, for example, financial guarantees for loans. And then there will be something to do Kiev, will not ... Well, they will declare a default. Even purely financial methods in this case can hurt Ukraine so much that it will simply crumble. But you can still say that Ukraine is violating "international law."
    Since there is no such right, no left any longer, such a statement from two out of three presidents, who really can declare something, would mean the declaration of Ukraine "free from recognition." That is, our troops will enter the LPR, DPR, Odessa region and wherever they deem necessary, and hello. Then you can slowly bargain with Hungary and Poland about what they will pay to whom for those pieces that they can swallow.
    All this, again, does not need any consent of the Kiev buffoons ...
  45. 0
    16 June 2021 14: 17
    We do not need anything, even if it is beneficial to us. The rulers of Ukraine are doing like that specialist in kungfu. If you have two fingers stuck in your eyes, you need to push your fingers deeper into your eyes with a forward movement and break off your fingers with a sharp downward movement.
  46. 0
    16 June 2021 14: 56
    The mongrel allowed herself to bark at the owner. Get a boot in the gut.
  47. 0
    17 June 2021 18: 51
    If they get angry overseas? And where are you going?

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