"Outpost of a democratic world": Zelensky's office hopes for an early admission of Ukraine to NATO

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On the eve of the summit of the North Atlantic Alliance in Brussels, Zelensky's office hopes for the early admission of Ukraine to NATO. The head of the Ukrainian president's office, Andriy Yermak, expressed a desire for it to happen in the very near future.

He expressed this opinion to the journalists of the Italian newspaper La Repubblica.



We believe that the partners will give their consent to our membership in the Alliance in the near future. We need help against Russia.

- said "the man number two in Kiev", as he was called in this European edition.

Ermak expresses the hope that the NATO countries will be able to come to a common opinion and agree among themselves on the admission of Ukraine into their ranks. Moreover, this must be done as soon as possible, because the country is in danger. According to the official, the Russian Federation may attack it in the near future. He believes that the future of Ukraine depends entirely on the members of the North Atlantic Alliance.

The head of Zelenskiy's Office calls Independent "an outpost of a democratic world" and claims that it is more in line with NATO standards than many of the member states of this military-political bloc.

Earlier, the publication "Strana.ua" quoted the words of the head of the Foreign Ministry Dmitry Kuleba that Kiev will no longer ask to be admitted to NATO, but will begin to demand it.
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  1. +12
    13 June 2021 18: 32
    A warrior from a UKRAINIAN is like a shell from dung, so it's all empty.
    1. +4
      13 June 2021 18: 34
      "Blank" or "red line"? Putin says Ukraine's plans to join NATO should be taken seriously.
      1. +18
        13 June 2021 18: 41
        Quote: military_cat
        "Blank" or "red line"? Putin says Ukraine's plans to join NATO should be taken seriously.

        And almost openly made it clear that we will not allow this.
        1. 0
          13 June 2021 19: 12
          The hopes of young men are nourished. That's just in this case with Ukraine, I hope this will remain wet dreams
          1. +3
            13 June 2021 19: 48
            Nobody, of course, will accept Ukraine into NATO. And this hysteria of Ermak ("According to the official, the Russian Federation may attack it in the near future.")because time X is approaching inexorably. And this will NOT "Russian attack on Ukraine", but counterstrike LDNR and Russia after the attack of Ukraine on the orders of the United States on the LDNR. If Biden and Putin in Geneva do not decide the fate of Ukraine and other issues peacefully (which is almost incredible).
            1. +2
              13 June 2021 22: 24
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              "According to the official, the Russian Federation may attack it in the near future."
              If they haven't attacked yet, then with whom are they fighting? The official destroys the image of Ukraine defending the democratic world from the Russian Federation that attacked him. Some kind of Kremlin agent.
          2. +1
            13 June 2021 20: 56
            Ukraine does not need to be accepted, it will do everything and even more, which is only hinted at from ui ((((
      2. +12
        13 June 2021 18: 42
        Quote: military_cat
        "Blank" or "red line"? Putin says Ukraine's plans to join NATO should be taken seriously.

        Everything must be taken seriously. Even to the interview that Putin gave to this American provocateur.
        Why show goodwill to those who ignore you?
        Where is the US permission for a similar interview with Russian journalist Biden?
        Biden does not want to go out for a joint interview ... then this meeting of the presidents, from which the ringleader of the West Biden will establish himself, before Europe, de facto, would "go into the woods", and Russia will once again be smeared with mud from the entire Anglo-Saxon media of the world.
        Who in general, from the Kremlin pool, puts a "pig" on Putin?
        1. +9
          13 June 2021 18: 47
          Quote: Clear
          Biden does not want to go out for a joint interview ... then "would go to the forest"

          The problem is that Vova's dad speaks for himself, and sleepy Joe does not have such a privilege. Democracy ... cho ...)))
          1. +7
            13 June 2021 18: 52
            Quote: Canecat
            Quote: Clear
            Biden does not want to go out for a joint interview ... then "would go to the forest"

            The problem is that Vova's dad speaks for himself, and sleepy Joe does not have such a privilege. Democracy ... cho ...)))

            Yes, they play against Russia for a long time and competently.
            Verify every information action.
            Already now in the Western media there is a growing wave of publications that Putin, when asked "is he a murderer?" with the announcement by the provocateur of the list of homegrown pro-Westerners who died around the world, they say, did not deny this fool
            And this is just the beginning ... What will happen after the meeting ...
            1. +8
              13 June 2021 19: 01
              There will be no joint statements after the meeting. This is practice. So what the "sinister-satskaya" need thinks up, then it will be.
              They were just out of business that ours did not get up on one knee at the World Cup. To the point of laughter ...
              1. +3
                13 June 2021 19: 30
                If the United States embodies the "center of the type of a democratic world," then why does it select and create vile formations like ISIS, nationalist Ukraine, the Tribaltika, Georgia and the like rabble ???
                1. +3
                  14 June 2021 01: 16
                  Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
                  If the United States represents a "center like a democratic world"

                  Can you call these regions stable? So I can't ... but in general, all this is a theory of controlled chaos ...
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          1. +9
            13 June 2021 18: 57
            Quote: military_cat
            Quote: Clear
            Even to the interview that Putin gave to this American provocateur.

            The name of the "American provocateur" (to whom Putin gave an interview about Ukraine's accession to NATO) is Pavel Zarubin, he is a correspondent for Russia 1, author and host of the program "Moscow. Kremlin. Putin."

            Are you pretending?
            12.06.21/XNUMX/XNUMX In an interview with the American TV channel NBC, journalist K. Simmons. ... About "verbal indigestion in his stomach ..."
      3. +1
        13 June 2021 20: 56
        Quote: military_cat
        Putin says Ukraine's plans to join NATO should be taken seriously.

        When a country is impoverished to the limit, then it will be accepted into NATO. Poor people are ready, for a piece of bread for their children, to fight, even with their brother, even with their father. They will be admitted to NATO, but like in a reserved seat carriage - next to the toilet. Yes, and NATO does not accept free of charge, but money will again have to be borrowed.
        1. +2
          13 June 2021 21: 21
          Vlad. That's why I'm ashamed of the country. Unbridled bragging. Why did he beat himself in the chest for six months, they say, we were the first to make the vaccine. So what. The incidence is increasing. The people simply did not want to be vaccinated. This is strange to me. Because last winter, many friends and relatives were ill with this muck. And I know what happened to them while they were sick, and how they heal from the consequences. Therefore, I, and my wife and children - all were grafted. But many do not want to be vaccinated, which means they do not trust Putin - and he is powerless to persuade. I'm afraid that the lines that he drew by NATO are a show-off. Let Zelensky a clown, a clown, a clown, but NATO is not needed, and they will deploy missiles along the eastern perimeter with NATO or without NATO. It is annoying that our media, on the one hand, tell how successfully the rearmament of Ukraine is going on, and how powerless ours are to resist, because they show peacefulness, and peacefulness is a sign of powerlessness.
          1. 0
            13 June 2021 22: 10
            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            Unbridled bragging. Why did he beat himself in the chest for six months, they say, we were the first to make the vaccine. So what. The incidence is increasing. The people simply did not want to be vaccinated.

            Lord, we would have your problems, the most wonderful vaccine in the world, especially Chumakovskaya, and we are being driven to Astrozenika, so I was lucky, they were pricked with Faizer.
            So we need to sing the whole country not "Songs of the Nightingale, on jelly", but to people and say "People, you have something that others do not have, we will give it to Africa if we don’t like it."
          2. +3
            13 June 2021 22: 41
            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            many do not want to be vaccinated, which means they do not believe Putin - and he is powerless to persuade
            Strange logic, to put it mildly.
      4. +4
        13 June 2021 21: 00
        Quote: military_cat
        Empty "or" red line "? Putin says Ukraine's plans to join NATO should be taken seriously

        In my opinion, he made it clear that even if he tried to supply a base with missiles, the 404 state would be dismantled, what can we say about joining NATO! do they need a war with Russia for Ukraine? This is how I directly see how a Dutch burgher or a Parisian grabs a rifle and runs to defend Ukraine. Yes, even a Pole ...
      5. +1
        14 June 2021 10: 38
        Ermak expresses the hope that the NATO countries will be able to come to a common opinion and agree among themselves on the admission of Ukraine into their ranks.

        Something suggests that this education will face hard times, and this Ermak is in the association of the diminished.
    2. +1
      13 June 2021 18: 38
      A warrior from a UKRAINIAN is like a shell from dung, so it's all empty.


      Read, or find a video on the network where Igor Strelkov discusses, talks about the qualities of a Ukrainian soldier. And his opinion does not match yours. It never matches.
      And by the way, Ukrainians, heroes (awarded by the state) of the first and second world wars and the war in Afghanistan,
      statistically, not less than Russians.
      1. +4
        13 June 2021 18: 55
        To begin with, who needs V / ON Heroes of those wars? It is ridiculous to give statistics on the Union from which they also disown with both hands. Those generations had an Idea for which they were dying. What's the idea now? To join NATO, to resolve their local issues at the expense of the forces of the Alliance? In my opinion, this is the most striking example of the absence of persons capable of a heroic deed.
        At the moment, their army has really degraded. And this degradation began not yesterday, but in 91 during the division.
      2. +7
        13 June 2021 19: 05
        Underestimating the enemy, arrogant and disdainful attitude towards him often led to serious problems. In this case, Strelkov knew what he was talking about.
      3. +7
        13 June 2021 21: 01
        Quote: Troll
        And by the way, Ukrainians, heroes (awarded by the state) of the first and second world wars and the war in Afghanistan,
        statistically, not less than Russians.

        So Little Russians, Belorussians and Great Russians got out of their house. And 12 regions of modern Ukraine are Russia and there are Russian people. Although the Bandera supporters took over all of them.
      4. +1
        14 June 2021 00: 48
        Shooters generally say that they have not hit.
      5. -1
        14 June 2021 05: 47
        Do not confuse Ukrainians from the Ukrainian SSR and Ukrainians from independent Ukraine. The latter are with the psychology of slaves.
        1. +1
          14 June 2021 09: 17
          Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
          Do not confuse Ukrainians from the Ukrainian SSR and Ukrainians from independent Ukraine. The latter - with the psychology of slaves
          Do the Russians from the RSFSR and the Russians from the independent RF have the same difference, or is it different? Do you know the military formation of traitors during the Patriotic War of 1812, comparable in number to the Vlasov members of the ROA? If someone today lives without a sense of the Motherland, it is not a fact that he had or will ever have it. The fiery revolutionaries who were ready to plunge their homeland into the abyss of civil war for the sake of a change of power and system did not have it then, and do not have it now.
          The workers have no homeland. You cannot deprive them of what they do not have. Striving first of all to conquer political domination, to organize itself into one national class and to be constituted as a nation, the proletariat still remains national, although not at all in the sense that the bourgeoisie understands this word.
          (From the "Communist Manifesto", whose authors were not seen in the manifestation of patriotism).
          1. 0
            14 June 2021 09: 21
            In Russia, the Vlasovites are outcasts. In Ukraine, Bandera, heroes. Here are their differences. And all your emotions are nonsense.
            1. 0
              14 June 2021 09: 31
              Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
              In Russia, the Vlasovites are outcasts. In Ukraine, Bandera, heroes,
              Trotsky in the RSFSR was hero # 2 after Lenin (# 1), did it help him to fall in love with his homeland? Do not love the RF - your problem, but do not engage in self-justification, promoting your personality defect as the norm.
    3. +3
      13 June 2021 18: 54
      True, demand, ultimately, not only admission to NATO, but billions of dollars of interest-free creedit, the most modern weapons and equipment at the expense of the manufacturing countries, admission to the ranks of the G7 in second place immediately. .... wassat
    4. 0
      13 June 2021 19: 04
      Typically Ukrainian position - the head of the warehouse - they steal masterly.
    5. +4
      13 June 2021 20: 15
      Not true. No need to lump the bastard bastard and normal lads into a heap.
      1. +2
        14 June 2021 09: 47
        Quote: Captive
        No need to lump the bunched bastard and normal lads into a heap
        The Nazis cannot do otherwise, without this they have nothing to respect themselves for. Such vycepy Sinner and others here are nothing more than a mirror image of the banded Natsiks in the context of Russian society, or deliberate provocations of mercenaries who incite ethnic hatred.
    6. +2
      13 June 2021 21: 43
      Quote: From Tomsk
      A warrior from a UKRAINIAN is like a shell from dung, so it's all empty.

      The Ukrainian is the same Russian, only wild.
    7. +1
      14 June 2021 02: 37
      Quote: From Tomsk
      A warrior from a UKRAINIAN is like a shell from dung, so it's all empty.

      That is, in the Second World War, they also fought badly? In vain you are so about the Ukrainians. Do not forget that we are one people, with one long history. In which we constantly fought in combat alongside each other. And fought well
  2. +4
    13 June 2021 18: 33
    Zelensky's office hopes for the early admission of Ukraine to NATO.
    So de facto you are already in NATO, but only according to your obligations for all their requirements.
    Ah, de jure ... what Well, really answer "man number 2", does NATO need to fight for you?
    1. +10
      13 June 2021 18: 44
      The question is even different, but what is the point of accepting Ukraine into NATO and thereby taking on any obligations, if NATO members are in Ukraine and the way they are at home?
      1. +1
        13 June 2021 19: 01
        Quote: 1976AG
        The question is even different, but what is the point of accepting Ukraine into NATO and thereby taking on any obligations, if NATO members are in Ukraine and the way they are at home?

        They do not have the right to constantly refuse. In my opinion, Article 10 of the NATO charter is an "open door policy".
        1. +5
          13 June 2021 19: 09
          Quote: Terenin
          Quote: 1976AG
          The question is even different, but what is the point of accepting Ukraine into NATO and thereby taking on any obligations, if NATO members are in Ukraine and the way they are at home?

          They do not have the right to constantly refuse. In my opinion, Article 10 of the NATO charter is an "open door policy".

          The open door policy is about the possibility of accepting new states, but not about not having the right to refuse, this is too much. Nobody will put such provisions in the charter.
          1. +3
            13 June 2021 22: 00
            Quote: 1976AG
            Nobody will put such provisions in the charter.

            The charter can be changed. And they will probably do it, or make an amendment on the "disputed" territories and conflicts of local importance for the countries of NATO candidates. The law is not written for fools.
            1. +1
              14 June 2021 07: 01
              Quote: Gardener91
              Quote: 1976AG
              Nobody will put such provisions in the charter.

              The charter can be changed. And they will probably do it, or make an amendment on the "disputed" territories and conflicts of local importance for the countries of NATO candidates. The law is not written for fools.

              They are not as fools as you think. Sly, arrogant, but not fools. And then, if such changes are made, then it will no longer be a "open door" policy, but a "walk-through" policy. And then, why should they limit their own possibilities?
              1. 0
                14 June 2021 21: 50
                Quote: 1976AG
                And then, why should they limit their own possibilities?

                I would like to believe in it, but the USA and satellites cannot be trusted. I remember Milosevic's words about trust in the West ...
        2. -1
          13 June 2021 20: 12
          Quote: Terenin
          They do not have the right to constantly refuse. In my opinion, Article 10 of the NATO charter is an "open door policy".

          Why are you deceiving kind and trusting members of the forum, do you think others are bad?
          Contracting parties by common consent may invite any other European state capable of developing the principles of this Treaty and contributing to the security of the North Atlantic region to accede to this Treaty. Any state that has received such an invitation, can become a Contracting Party by depositing with the Government of the United States of America an instrument of its accession to this Treaty. The Government of the United States of America will notify each of the Contracting Parties of the deposit of each such instrument of accession.

          https://www.nato.int/cps/ru/natohq/official_texts_17120.htm
          Ukraine has already been denied the MAP, and if not,
          The NSDC believes that due to the fact that Germany and France in 2008 refused to Ukraine and Georgia in the MAP, the annexation of Crimea took place.

          https://sharij.net/danilov-germaniya-i-francziya-dolzhny-nesti-otvetstvennost-za-okkupacziyu-kryma
          "After all, what is the MAP? This means that it is possible, in a year, if so, Mr. Orban (Viktor Orban, Prime Minister of Hungary. - Ed.), Macron (Emmanuel Macron, President of France. - Ed.) and Merkel (Angela Merkel, Chancellor of Germany. - Ed.), Ukraine and will be admitted to NATO. But military support is needed not in a year, but already tomorrow. The new status makes it possible to dramatically expand military cooperation and the supply of weapons. Almost the same as NATO, except for the direct transfer of American divisions to the territory of Ukraine. But I don't think anyone is counting on it.

          https://news.obozrevatel.com/politics/delo-dazhe-ne-v-rossii-poluchit-li-ukraina-pdch-nato-i-kto-ej-v-etom-pomozhet.htm
          it is not a fact that all NATO countries will vote to join NATO ....
          After the referendum in the Netherlands, Ukraine's path is blocked in the EU as well ...
          The Dutch election commission will announce the official results of the referendum on April 12, but preliminary calculations by the broadcaster NOS show that opponents of the association with Ukraine gained 61%, and the turnout reached 32%.

          https://www.bbc.com/russian/international/2016/04/160407_netherlands_ukraine_loss
          Hungary will lay down on the bones, but will not allow Ukraine to join NATO and the EU ... because of the violation of the rights of Hungarians in Ukraine ...
          1. +1
            13 June 2021 23: 50
            Quote: Lara Croft
            Why are you deceiving kind and trusting members of the forum, do you think others are bad?

            "Dear", not lower, half a tone, in splashes of emotions ... and without YOUcany?

            13th of June 2021 White House: NATO's doors are open to any country in Europe.
            The doors of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) are open to any European country. This statement was made in the White House on the eve of the NATO summit, which will be held on June 14 in Brussels.

            "The leaders will reaffirm their commitment to NATO's open door policy, which provides a path to membership for any European country that shares our values ​​and fulfills the necessary responsibilities and obligations," the press service said in a statement.

            Earlier, US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken said that Ukraine already possesses the tools necessary for a potential accession to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO).

            Russian President Vladimir Putin noted that there are no guarantees that Ukraine will not join NATO, and "someone should think about" what should be the response from the Russian Federation to the expansion of NATO to the country's borders.
            1. 0
              13 June 2021 23: 57
              Quote: Terenin
              Quote: Lara Croft
              Why are you deceiving kind and trusting members of the forum, do you think others are bad?

              "Dear", not lower, half a tone, in splashes of emotions ... and without YOUcany?

              13th of June 2021 White House: NATO's doors are open to any country in Europe.
              The doors of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) are open to any European country. This statement was made in the White House on the eve of the NATO summit, which will be held on June 14 in Brussels.

              "The leaders will reaffirm their commitment to NATO's open door policy, which provides a path to membership for any European country that shares our values ​​and fulfills the necessary responsibilities and obligations," the press service said in a statement.

              Earlier, US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken said that Ukraine already possesses the tools necessary for a potential accession to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO).

              Russian President Vladimir Putin noted that there are no guarantees that Ukraine will not join NATO, and "someone should think about" what should be the response from the Russian Federation to the expansion of NATO to the country's borders.

              I trust NATO statutes, not the words of politicians ...
      2. +2
        13 June 2021 22: 15
        Quote: 1976AG
        if NATO members are in Ukraine and how they are at home?
        "NATO members" at home - "walk on tiptoe" and comply with all laws and regulations, even during the "president of beans" ...
        But in Ukraine, in Japan (Okinawa Island) - a "NATO member" (a resident of the United States) is free and free to do what he can (within reasonable limits ...)
      3. 0
        14 June 2021 02: 40
        Quote: 1976AG
        The question is even different, but what is the point of accepting Ukraine into NATO and thereby taking on any obligations, if NATO members are in Ukraine and the way they are at home?

        The only difference is that they will not fight for Ukraine.
    2. 0
      14 June 2021 10: 20
      Quote: Terenin
      Ah, de jure ...
      Serious rushes have already begun. From the T-channel "Voice of Mordor":
      The country of embroidered shirts and bloomers has really gone "peddling". Last week, Ukraine made claims for financial payments to Germany and France, stating that it was they who helped Russia take Crimea from Ukraine. While the French and Germans were twisting their fingers to their temples, Zelensky began ringing the reception of the President of America, but Biden was also annoyed by Ukraine's eternal pleas for money, and he ordered Blinken to politely dismiss Zelensky with his requests - and in public.
  3. -1
    13 June 2021 18: 52
    As soon as they will immediately accept.
    1. +8
      13 June 2021 19: 04
      According to the official, the Russian Federation may attack it in the near future.

      This is what the subconscious mind creates with the typists. This is not the first time, and not the only official shouts "Help! Russia will attack us in the near future!"
      AND WITH WHOM ARE YOU THEN Fighting For 7 Years? YOU WILL ADMIT THAT YOUR OWN PEOPLE DESTROY AND THE WAR IS CIVIL!
      1. +6
        13 June 2021 19: 33
        Quote: Egoza
        According to the official, the Russian Federation may attack it in the near future.

        This is what the subconscious mind creates with the typists. This is not the first time, and not the only official shouts "Help! Russia will attack us in the near future!"
        AND WITH WHOM ARE YOU THEN Fighting For 7 Years? YOU WILL ADMIT THAT YOUR OWN PEOPLE DESTROY AND THE WAR IS CIVIL!

        Do not bother yourself, this question is in the void. In the west, they will hear from Ukraine only what they want to hear. Therefore, the Ukrainian authorities, just in case, yell differently.
  4. +3
    13 June 2021 18: 54
    Nobody in NATO needs such unpredictable and not quite healthy heads like horses.
    1. -4
      13 June 2021 19: 16
      Nikolay! It's not about the horses, it's about the territory. The deployment of NATO missiles in eastern Ukraine will inevitably make any conflict nuclear, and derailing the entire world is a solution that hardly anyone can do. Therefore, NATO is likely to be accepted. To have such a trump card is good for the West. Our leadership will not be able to prevent this, the stupidity with the deployment of missiles in Cuba is already tired.
      1. +2
        14 June 2021 01: 35
        Quote: mikh-korsakov
        It's not about the horses, it's about the territory. The deployment of NATO missiles in eastern Ukraine will inevitably make any conflict nuclear, and derailing the entire world is a solution that hardly anyone can do. Therefore, NATO is likely to be accepted.

        ummm ... deploying missiles in Ukraine is probably a nuclear conflict that no one wants to go to, BUT for this they will definitely accept (that is, they will definitely go to a nuclear conflict)? your beginning of the phrase contradicts the ending of the phrase ... request
        PS
        countries with unresolved territorial problems are not admitted to NATO. ukram or Donbass to give and recognize the Crimea, or without NATO. does not work together.
        1. 0
          14 June 2021 05: 51
          Alexander. They will be accepted into NATO, because the US has "returned" to the world and is "banking", references to the opinion of NATO members "loyal" to Russia, such as Hungary, are unfounded, because America has techniques from "scrap" to persuasion on them. Nobody at one time forbade NATO to bomb Serbia. But WE do not want to go to a nuclear conflict. Like it’s better to be patient than to die. Therefore, there is no contradiction.
          1. +1
            14 June 2021 12: 55
            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            But WE do not want to go to a nuclear conflict. Like it’s better to be patient than to die.

            well that's it! schA North Korea will start capturing everyone, because the rest will "tolerate better than die"
            ))))))))))))))))))))
            don't talk nonsense
          2. 0
            14 June 2021 17: 06
            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            But WE do not want to go to a nuclear conflict. Like it’s better to be patient than to die.

            I might have agreed with you if not for the federal district of Crimea wink
            at the moment NATO is not ready for any kind of combat operations of higher low intensity. any exacerbation of the situation could lead to the fact that Russia will begin to act from a position of strength, as, for example, in Syria, where no one expected our intervention, let alone such results. most likely there will be no nuclear conflict, but a non-nuclear conflict is quite possible, and what in this case? what to do if the terrible Russia does not seize Ukraine? just go through missile strikes on the infrastructure ... you need to react somehow, and no one is ready for a full-scale conflict with Russia, except China, but it cooperates with Russia and will immediately deal with Taiwan wink
            for the United States, NATO is a weapons market. Why would the US expose its market to such a threat? there are enough horror stories for the sale of weapons, and the fate of the Papuans like the Balts or the Ukrovs is the last thing that worries the United States.
            PS
            an interesting episode from the history of NATO. when the United States (!!!) entered into a confrontation with the DPRK, the NATO chairman made an official statement that if the DPRK would strike with nuclear missiles on Fr. Guam then NATO will not be able to provide assistance to the United States as it is contrary to the NATO charter.
            and even if, according to the NATO charter, it will have to support one of its members, then the charter is formulated as vaguely as possible. It's one thing to beat someone in NATO who can't answer you, like the Serbs or Iraqis, by the way, putting a big bolt on both the UN and NATO charters, and it's quite another thing when it will definitely fly to you personally. the fact that in a crisis situation both the EU and NATO act on the principle of "the ship is sinking! every man for himself!" proved a pandemic, when everyone stole humanitarian aid from each other. request
      2. +1
        14 June 2021 16: 06
        Quote: mikh-korsakov
        Nikolay! It's not about the horses, it's about the territory. The deployment of NATO missiles in eastern Ukraine will inevitably make any conflict nuclear, and derailing the entire world is a solution that hardly anyone can do. Therefore, NATO is likely to be accepted. To have such a trump card is good for the West. Our leadership will not be able to prevent this, the stupidity with the deployment of missiles in Cuba is already tired.


        They are not such fools in NATO. Nobody really wanted to get into big showdowns because of unpredictable horses there before and does not want to in the future. It is one thing to bounce from high tribunes and quite another to fight with a country with a powerful nuclear potential.
  5. +4
    13 June 2021 18: 56
    Earlier, the publication "Strana.ua" quoted the words of the head of the Foreign Ministry Dmitry Kuleba that Kiev will no longer ask to be admitted to NATO, but will begin to demand it.


    Yeah, well, demand it faster ...
    1. 0
      13 June 2021 20: 48
      Quote: cniza
      Yeah, well, demand it faster ...

      Let them first train at the IMF, otherwise ... we will receive the second tranche in September 2020 ... we will receive at the end of 2020 ... in February ... in ... by the end of 2021 ...
  6. +1
    13 June 2021 19: 01
    "Outpost of a democratic world": Zelensky's office hopes for an early admission of Ukraine to NATO
    ... They exist apart from reality ... you can see a good "bamboo" is supplied to them, without interruption.
    1. +1
      13 June 2021 21: 02
      I don't know where they get this potion, but it sausages them specifically ...
      1. 0
        13 June 2021 22: 40
        Even against the general background of a general madhouse, the Kukuevskys stand out as Slim go / O / tism.
    2. +1
      13 June 2021 22: 08
      Quote: rocket757
      ... you can see a good "bamboo" is delivered to them, without interruption.

      No, a good loot and a bright future in the future, they are dumped by the monopolists of green candy wrappers. This is a war against Russia on all fronts.
      1. +1
        13 June 2021 22: 44
        Everything is clear with the upper, leading ones, they work according to a plan that was not written by them ... although there are such overlaps that can no longer be explained by anything.
        It is not clear how the residents of that side are going to live on, how do they present their prospects? Because the promises that are thrown at them from above do not inspire confidence in anyone whose head is working.
  7. +3
    13 June 2021 19: 22
    What stupid political "elites" who came to power through a coup d'etat!
    In Ukraine, the territorial conflict is in an active phase, and the Ukrainians just look "run into rudeness." Is it possible that some of the rabid really hope that they will be admitted to NATO and the alliance will roll out its equipment to the borders of Russia, and soldiers from the Western armies will become orderly rows to defend Nenka? fool
    1. +2
      13 June 2021 20: 46
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      Is it possible that some of the rabid really hope that they will be admitted to NATO and the alliance will roll out its equipment to the borders of Russia, and soldiers from the Western armies will become orderly rows to defend Nenka?

      Yes. Really hope. It is said:
      We need help against Russia.
      As the Georgians had hoped in 2008.
      1. +1
        13 June 2021 22: 11
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        As the Georgians had hoped in 2008.

        The Georgians were faced with the task in 2008 to block the RF access to the sea. Something went wrong.
  8. +4
    13 June 2021 19: 26
    Is NATO worthy of being a member of the same organization with the outpost of the free world? Isn't it a great honor for NATA?
    1. +1
      13 June 2021 20: 25
      Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
      Is NATO worthy of being a member of the same organization with the outpost of the free world? Isn't it a great honor for NATA?

      Yes, there are a lot of ragamuffins in NATA with incapacitated aircraft, Iceland does not have any aircraft at all ...
      And the lack of membership in NATA does not prevent the former republics of the Union from placing on their territory tank laboratories and intelligence centers ... USA ...
    2. +1
      13 June 2021 22: 15
      Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
      Is NATO worthy of being a member of the same organization with the outpost of the free world?

      NATO is confident of this. Therefore, they really believe in the reliability of the outpost and ... they are in no hurry))
  9. 0
    13 June 2021 19: 41
    They are really sick there ...
    1. 0
      13 June 2021 22: 17
      Quote: sabakina
      They are really sick there ...

      But they are not childish.
  10. +3
    13 June 2021 19: 46
    Let them demand that the Armed Forces be dismantled in the NATO army by warrant officers.
  11. 0
    13 June 2021 20: 07
    Poor, naive and stupid citizens of Ukraine. They look like a used contraceptive. They were used by both their own and others.
  12. +7
    13 June 2021 20: 17
    The "democratic world" is rotten, since Bandera's Ukraine is in its outposts.
    1. +3
      13 June 2021 20: 42
      Quote: Captive
      The "democratic world" is rotten, since Bandera's Ukraine is in its outposts.

      unequivocally, this is not an "outpost of the democratic world", it is a fascist outpost of the pro-NATO world, a country with developed political repression, a ban on freedom of speech and information, terror of its own citizens
  13. -1
    13 June 2021 20: 39
    Zelensky's office hopes for the early admission of Ukraine to NATO
    hope dies last.... lol
  14. +1
    13 June 2021 20: 42
    Head of Zelensky's Office calls Independent "outpost of the democratic world"

    It remains only to find out what the "democratic world" itself thinks about this.
  15. +2
    13 June 2021 20: 52
    Now the fifth column reigns in VO. What are you happy about, but meanwhile
    In the "Ghost" one-time losses, which have not been for a long time - just five soldiers were killed by enemy saboteurs. According to our sources, all were killed point blank. They were shot methodically and in cold blood at an observation post. They were not taken prisoner, since the main task of the attackers and those who gave them the order is to kill, demoralize the military of the People's Militia, and show who is the boss.

    For some reason, they do not write about this now. Who said that there are only Ukrainians on the other side.
  16. -5
    13 June 2021 23: 06
    Do you expect something worthwhile from the meeting in Switzerland, naive Chukchi youths? Nothing breakthrough will happen.
    Biden and Johnson have already outlined everything in London, including the place of Russia in the modern world.
    1. 0
      14 June 2021 00: 12
      Quote: markant1970
      There will be nothing breakthrough.

      of course, but if something happens then you shouldn't believe it
      Quote: markant1970
      Biden with Johnson already

      these are their problems, it is not for them to indicate the place of Russia in the world
  17. +1
    13 June 2021 23: 23
    Demand! The more you demand, the sooner you will be sent to fuck.
  18. +1
    13 June 2021 23: 45
    And where is the article about prices that have risen by 300 percent? Why do we need this sad moronic clown president? Who is interested in it? Or is it from the series: - We live well, not because we live well, but because somewhere they live even worse ...
  19. +1
    14 June 2021 04: 33
    - "According to the official, the Russian Federation may attack it in the near future" - we have been "attacking" for 7 years, even the dates are indicated !!! The problem of the "brother" is that you are looking for somewhere to settle down again for free, and with your mentality NATO will become impoverished in 3 years ..
  20. 0
    14 June 2021 11: 50
    I think Poland will not allow Ukraine to become any "outpost" or "bastion". The place is profitable, and it is already taken.