Italian military expert attributed the AFAR radar to the main advantages of the MiG-35 fighter

Italian experts discuss the capabilities of the latest Russian MiG-35 fighter. This is a light multi-role fighter, which is usually classified as an intermediate, between the 4th and 5th generation of combat aircraft - 4 ++.

Italian military observer Maurizio Sparacino of Analisi Difesa, citing data from the MiG aircraft corporation, writes that the MiG-35 is "in the final stages of testing." It is noted that the MiG-35 can eventually become a full-fledged replacement for the MiG-29 fighters as part of the Russian Aerospace Forces.

Particular attention in the Italian military-themed press is drawn to the advanced radar with AFAR, which is installed on the latest MiG-35 fighters. We are talking about a new version of the radar, belonging to the "Beetle" family.

Foreign experts believe that the combat potential of the MiG-35 is significantly higher than, for example, the latest versions of the Su-30 fighters. At the same time, it is indicated that the combination of weapons and radar with AFAR turns the MiG-35 into the only light fighter of the Russian Aerospace Forces, which is capable of demonstrating a certain advantage over foreign aircraft not only of the fourth, but also of the fifth generation in air combat. In particular, it is indicated that the MiG-35 has the ability to surpass the French Rafale and even the American F-35 in this regard. In this, it is believed, the newest MiG can be helped by super-maneuverability, which is achieved by two engines with an afterburner thrust of up to 10 tons, which exceeds the performance of the engines used on the Raphael.

Maurizio Sparacino:

It is equipped with a Zhuk-MAE AFAR radar (one of the Beetle's versions), which is highly resistant to electronic countermeasures. This is one of the main advantages of the MiG-35. He has the ability to attack four targets at the same time. It has improved avionics, and the ability to refuel in flight allows you to increase the range of combat use.

Comments

[Rageee]

Is he at least this Russian afar?)
if there is, then why isn’t they mass-produced and upgrade the mig-29, su-30, su-35 ??
and then I have heard about the allegedly existing afar for the mig-35 for more than one year, but it is not on any production aircraft of the Aerospace Forces, why is that? ...
excuses like pfara are no worse accepted

[Vadim Ananyin]

Not all at once.

[Zaurbek]

Yes, but the Crimean war may repeat itself ... where some had rifled weapons, while others did not

[lucul]

excuses like pfara are no worse accepted

Pffff ....
Turned on AFAR - you shine like a Christmas tree on all radars at a great range, fly with PFAR - and it's much more difficult to find you))))

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: lucul

Turned on AFAR - you shine like a Christmas tree on all radars at a great range, fly with PFAR - and it's much more difficult to find you))))

Good joke, funny.)))

[lucul]

Good joke, funny.)))

In every joke there is a grain of a joke))))

[venik]

Quote: lucul

In every joke there is a grain of a joke))))

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В this jokingly - this share tends to 100%. Congratulations! Amused!

[shurshun]

And you don't even need to fly. You stand on the ground, and it's good.

[Incvizitor]

Maybe they are waiting for Rofar and they will release it right away.

[Castro Ruiz]

Yes, ROFAR will radically change everything. And everyone works on it. But there is a long way to go to the standard radar station of this revolutionary product. Everyone has.

[URAL72]

why don't they mass-produce and upgrade the mig-29, su-30, su-35 ?? "

The 29th will not be upgraded. After several disasters and accidents, it turned out that the fuselage alloy is not very successful and is prone to corrosion. The engine has a low resource and is smoky. Almost all 29s have already been written off. New modifications are devoid of these shortcomings and are purchased by the MO. But the main bet seems to have been made on the UAV and the new light fighter that is rumored to be in development. But the Su-30/35 will undergo modernization, the latter will seem to be equipped with a Belka.

[Barberry25]

not really ... the military does not want to calculate the budget, therefore they drown for drying

[Light]

Well, for example, the Su-57 serial with AFAR.

[Zaurbek]

And, for example, F16, F18 and F15 with modernization and new ones are equipped with Afar.

[Light]

On Sukhoi PFAR there is a very good Irbis, it was the best in terms of range and the number of targets fired, if necessary, I think it will be changed to a smaller and more jam-resistant Belka.

[Orange bigg]

... Is he at least this Russian afar?)

Do you think the Italian experts were joking?

.Mauricio Sparacino:

It is equipped with a Zhuk-MAE AFAR radar (one of the Beetle's versions), which is highly resistant to electronic countermeasures. This is one of the main advantages of the MiG-35. He has the ability to attack four targets at the same time. It has improved avionics, and the ability to refuel in flight allows you to increase the range of combat use.

.If there is, why isn’t they mass-produced and upgrade the mig-29, su-30, su-35 ??

Because all this money and not small, and the Su-35 is good with its PFAR.

and then I have heard about the allegedly existing afar for the mig-35 for more than one year, but it is not on any production aircraft of the Aerospace Forces, why is that? ...

Probably because the state tests of the MiG-35 will be completed only at the end of this year, after which the serial production of the MiG-35 will become possible.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Rageee

excuses like pfara are no worse accepted

Substantiate your statement.
PS
At one time, when the wall fell in Germany, our MiG-29s began to take part in NATO exercises. It turned out that next to the MiG the F-16 radar cannot really work, because where the F-16 radar took due to the receiver sensitivity, the MiG-29 took due to the radiation power, and hampered the work of the F-16 radar.
This is me to the fact that in battle it is not the progressiveness of technology that is important, but the result that is achieved by the rational use of what is available.

[Mountain shooter]

35 is not so light, although, of course, lighter than Su. Plans to install radars with AFAR on ALL Russian fighters of the 4 ++ generation were announced. Antenna production plant ends with construction. In the near Moscow region. We are waiting, sir !!! It begins to dawn on them that "Not all cottage cheese is for the cat, when the muzzle is on the threshold ..."

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Antenna production plant

Antennas ???
Don't you confuse anything?
Why a radar with an AFAR antenna? He needs powerful generators and sensitive receivers. Many generators, and many receivers.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Why a radar with an AFAR antenna? He needs powerful generators and sensitive receivers. Many generators, and many receivers

What are these transceivers attached to? There, the cooling of these modules is also started. This design is called "AFAR antenna", as the developers from KRET explained to me. Although, perhaps this is their professional slang.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Plans to install radars with AFAR on ALL Russian fighters of the 4 ++ generation were announced.

Yeahhhh?
And when?
And why then won't the modernized SU-30 AFAR be installed on the new type?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Jacket in stock

And why then won't the modernized SU-30 AFAR be installed on the new type?

The plant has not yet been launched. But just about ... In the meantime, they collect piece copies. Lacks. Hundreds of them need to be collected and CUSTOMIZED a year. It will not work out at once.

[Zaurbek]

This is a medium fighter. Analogue F18, Rafal, EF2000 ....

[Kasym]

This controversy about light or medium has already bothered me.
The ground forces need a fire support aircraft on the "front end". Moreover, the dimensions are as small as possible, otherwise the airships would have adapted long ago - it is more difficult to knock out such a thing. And does it really matter what you call it (easy or medium)? You can simply - a front-line fighter.
AFAR is very expensive, one transceiver module costs over $ 1000, and there are about 22 units on the AFAR F-1000. And if we proceed from the fact that the Russian Federation has more than 1000 fighters, then the amount will be with nine zeros (billions, in short) ... If a powerful radar system is deployed over the country, then this is enough for defense. But for the aggressor, AFAR is desirable, tk. he will not see such a system on the ground.

[Errr]

Quote: Kasym

AFAR is very expensive, one transceiver module costs over $ 1000, and on the AFAR F-22 there are about 1000 units.

Not certainly in that way.

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[Kasym]

Errr, you write for the "receiver", and the "transmitter" of the module?
There is one more nuance in terms of cost. It's okay to make a radar station with AFAR, after all, we still need to finance the modernization of aircraft, and this already needs to "shake up" the entire interior of the aircraft - it may turn out that the work will cost more than the radar itself. It turns out expensive. But I have no doubts about Russia's ability to make such a radar.
By the way, it was at the beginning of the tenth years of infa that Fazatron installed a radar with AFAR for testing on a pair of MiG-29s.

[Trickster]

Italian experts believe that the combat potential of the MiG-35 is significantly higher than, for example, the latest versions of the Su-30 fighters.

The expert level is simply expert.

[Jacket in stock]

So it seems that new MiGs should go to our VKS without AFAR.
It is expensive for our army, the budget does not pull.

[1976AG]

Quote: Jacket in stock

So it seems that new MiGs should go to our VKS without AFAR.
It is expensive for our army, the budget does not pull.

Who told you that? On the contrary, they will go with AFAR.

[Thrifty]

Well, if the MiG35 suddenly became a "light" fighter, then what are single-engine fighters like "air dust"?

[Light]

It depends on what kind of single-engine, F-35, although with 1 engine, is heavier than 2-engine MiG-35.

[Zaurbek]

Grappen-F16-F18-F15 ....... such a gradation in weight ...... or from Not NATO ... FT17-J10, MiG29, Su30 (35)

[Light]

So I do not argue that 1-engine ones, in theory, should be lighter than 2-engine ones, from the overweight of the penguin and most of its problems follow.

[Zaurbek]

The penguin is in fact "average" ... but he and the turbojet engine are one more powerful than 2 pcs RD33 ..... and his resource is higher .... and the acceleration characteristics of the F35 are worse

[Light]

Let it be average, but still heavier than 2 engine averages. Therefore, it is inferior in speed and range.

[Zaurbek]

Medium, not particularly "distant" ... and the penguin has better aerodynamics with weapons ... not a fact. And the afterburner is not always needed.

[Light]

In general, the middle ones are inferior to the heavy ones, but this is how the Rafali and Typhoons surpass the penguin in both the combat radius and cruising speed. In vain, of course, the Americans made it heavier than them, however, they themselves admit it. It would be interesting to compare them with ours on the 1st engine "product 30", if there is one.

[Zaurbek]

The question is: what to stuff ours into the glider?

[Light]

It would also be logical that in the Su-57, the compartment with the weapon will probably only be left in the fuselage, there is no need to overweight it.

[Zaurbek]

I think ... you can not zealous from the compartment and make the most of composites in the airframe (more than in the 57th) and make the most of the Su57 serial units .... turbojet engine, cockpit, avionics ...

[Light]

Composites by itself, the benefit in this regard, everything is fine with import substitution. Maximum unification with the Su-57 units is mandatory, a similar fuel system, avionics, the issue of the cost of production and maintenance of new aircraft is of paramount importance. So the project involves a cruising supersonic, let's see.

[Bad_gr]

Table without MiG-35, but gives an idea of ​​the size

Single-engine only F-16 and F-35.

[Prjanik]

Another 5 generation size comparison is curious

[Castro Ruiz]

These are super light fighters. :)

[123456789]

Country Russia USA
Manufacturer OKB Mikoyan, Gurevich Lockheed Martin
Name MiG-35 F-35
Modification of the MiG-35 F-35 Lightning II
Start of production (year) 2002 2000
Length (m.) 17.32 15.67
Height (m.) 4.73 4.33
Wingspan (m.) 12.00 10.70
Empty weight (kg.) 11 000
Maximum takeoff weight (kg.) 22 700
Maximum flight range (km) 3 000
Maximum flight speed (km / h) 2 400 2 065
Cruise speed (km/h) - -
Practical ceiling (m.) 17 500 18 288
Power plant 2 x turbofan RD-33 ser.3M 1 x turbofan Pratt Whitney F135
Engine power 8 800 178
Crew (persons) 2 1
weaponry
30-mm gun GSH-301 (ammunition 100 cartridges),

combat load - 4500 kg at 9 nodes of the suspension (in reloading version, with a reduced fuel supply) - not more than 9000 kg,

UR class air - medium-range air R-27 and RVV-AE, short-range missiles R-73, anti-ship X-31A and X-35

20 mm six-barreled cannon (optional),

combat load - 5000 kg,

in stealth mode - 2x 450-kg bombs and 2 air-to-air missiles AIM-120C AMRAAMS. In overload - 2x 900-kg bombs and 4 SD in 2 weapon bays


More details at: https://avia.pro/sravnenie/voennue-samoletu/result

[Guru]

Maximum flight speed (km / h) 2 400 2 065

This is who has a swing. speed 2065 ??? The F-35 of any modification has 1930 km / h (1,6 M) NO MORE.

[Siberian 66]

OOO italiano expert !!! How many drawings were he given to look at for such wonderful conclusions ??
But seriously, a light fighter with two engines is not light. Fuel was poured into it wherever they could. Because the MiG-29 is a short-range fighter, as the pilots said. Because dvigly ate fuel unmeasured. In NATO, he was called "The Smoker", since the smoky trail from him could not be confused with anything else. And the cost of a flight hour is not comparable to single-engine fighters. And the MiG-35 did not get rid of old problems. Yes, the new avionics, yes, they were tricked, yes, super-maneuverability. But I talked with the Swift pilot. who know Migi the best, I guess. He sighed and said - "Su" can do all the same and much more. Including the dimensions are larger, you can shove more powerful and overall avionics ...

[Barberry25]

and he also eats even more fuel and his price of an hour of flight is 2 times more expensive than that of migars ... and yes ... until the Swifts received the moment-35, they can only talk about the moment-29, which is at least unprofessional to endure for a moment-35.

[AML]

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Quote: lucul

Turned on AFAR - you shine like a Christmas tree on all radars at a great range, fly with PFAR - and it's much more difficult to find you))))

Good joke, funny.)))

And you develop the topic and let's laugh together. As the saying goes, the one who laughs last laughs well. The bulk is nonsense, not even understanding the difference between AFAR and PFAR. But the main difference is, both pluses and minuses, and increased energy is definitely not a plus for AFAR.

[rocket757]

Italian military expert attributed the AFAR radar to the main advantages of the MiG-35 fighter

... The effectiveness of any technique is a combination of many, many things put into it by designers and manufacturers.

[Yuriy71]

Tell this stupid Italian not to write - "Afar is the same topic as an air-independent installation on submarines" !!! They talk a lot about them, but no one has seen them! There are no them yet, problems with development !!

[AML]

Don't talk nonsense. AFAR technology 100 years in the afternoon, as well as VNEU.
Nobody wants a production sub for the price of a starship. Autonomy is limited by the human factor, and not by technological impossibility.

[Avior]

I wonder how an Italian can know the capabilities of the MiG-35 radar?

[Gunther]

Quote: Italian experts

.... indicates that the MiG-35 has the ability to surpass the French Rafale in this regard and even American F-35.

touches it and even ))))
"... in 2015, 15 years after the first flight, the new aircraft lost a training battle to the 40-year-old old F-16 ... ... the stealth form is designed for the US air defense frequency ranges, but is not effective against a different Russian air defense frequency range There are other ways to overcome stealth technology, which are also not denied in the United States. "©
http://oruzhie.info/voennye-samolety/124-f-35

yes, the f-35 is stuffed with electronics, but at the same time it remains a flying bucket of bolts, which, however, is not denied by sane experts in the west

[outsider]

Quote: Vadim Ananyin

Not all at once.

- On the F-22 radar with AFAR have been installed since 1997, for almost a quarter of a century. Will you wait another quarter of a century?

[outsider]

Quote: Bright

Well, for example, the Su-57 serial with AFAR.

- Really ?!

[outsider]

Quote: Bad_gr

Quote: Rageee

excuses like pfara are no worse accepted

Substantiate your statement.
PS
At one time, when the wall fell in Germany, our MiG-29s began to take part in NATO exercises. It turned out that next to the MiG the F-16 radar cannot really work, because where the F-16 radar took due to the receiver sensitivity, the MiG-29 took due to the radiation power, and hampered the work of the F-16 radar.

- It fake.