"A terrible dream for Ukraine": the press of Ukraine called the undesirable consequences of the meeting of Biden and Putin

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Russia and the United States can come to an agreement behind Ukraine's back, Moscow has a bunch of options to interest Washington. Kiev is especially frightened by the fact that the Americans will force Ukraine to comply with the Minsk agreements. Ukrainian political scientist Konstantin Bondarenko writes about this for the publication "Glavred".

On June 16, Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin will meet in Geneva. The leaders of the United States and Russia will discuss a number of issues related to global security. The issue of Ukraine will not be ignored either, the author writes.



The press in Ukraine indicated that the meeting between Biden and Putin will determine the future attitude of the United States towards Ukraine. Currently, Washington has sent Kiev a "signal" that it does not ignore Ukraine and is even ready to receive the Ukrainian president. But everything can change after a meeting with Putin.

Bondarenko believes that Russia and the United States will come to an agreement and Ukraine will have to fulfill the Minsk agreements, which it has been ignoring since 2015 at the behest of the same Washington, a Ukrainian political scientist called this option a "nightmare" for Ukraine.

However, he stresses, even a US directive cannot force Ukraine to comply with the Minsk agreements. Instead, he proposes to leave from under the wing of the United States and go over to the UK, or create an alliance with Turkey. According to him, you can find a way out, but not return to the implementation of the agreements signed by Poroshenko.

Thus, the United States and Russia can come to an agreement and force Ukraine to fulfill its obligations, and this will be a "nightmare" for Ukraine, he sums up.
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    1. -14
      13 June 2021 08: 27
      What political scientists write is of little interest to anyone, their chatter is their bread. What they say in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, but they say the following: Ukraine is not worried about the upcoming talks between the Presidents of the United States and the Russian Federation Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin. The principled position of Kiev is not to accept any agreements that have been reached behind Ukraine's back. This was stated by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Dmytro Kuleba on the air of the Ukraine 24 channel. According to him, the wording of any talk about Ukraine without Ukraine "is" notorious nonsense. " The world is built on the fact that everyone is talking to each other. But the absolutely iron rule, which we are constantly introducing, is this: "No agreements on Ukraine without Ukraine," Kuleba noted. Kuleba believes that these are two fundamentally different concepts. "Therefore, I am not at all worried about what President Biden will talk with Putin. But we will not allow and will not accept any agreements in this format on Ukraine behind our back without us. And this is a completely tough and principled position," the minister said.
      1. +38
        13 June 2021 08: 39
        And who is interested in the nonsense of Selyukov's idiot Kuleba? If there is a talk about "independent" and if some serious decisions are made, then Kiev will comply and will not vyaknet.
        1. -24
          13 June 2021 08: 43
          Kiev will not do anything, moreover, the United States will be on its side as it is not interested in making concessions to Russia anywhere and in anything.
          1. +18
            13 June 2021 08: 54
            Well, to hell with them. And with Kiev and the United States.
            1. +2
              14 June 2021 18: 06
              Quote: Scorpion85
              No agreements on Ukraine without Ukraine

              The position is absolutely correct. Decent.
              The question is, where is Ukraine?
              Where they stand for peace, law and against fascism?
              Or where civil wars, the violent seizure of power and the exaltation of the Bandera supporters?
              For me, the capital of Ukraine is not in Kiev now.
              1. +1
                14 June 2021 18: 28
                That's it. I agree one hundred percent!
          2. +22
            13 June 2021 09: 08
            What the owners from Washington say, Kiev will do. Otherwise, the conversation with the out of control and rabid is always short.
          3. +17
            13 June 2021 09: 37
            Kiev will not do anything, moreover, the United States will be on its side so
            The USA will be on the side of their interests and if it is profitable for them to hand over something in Ukraine they will do it. Do you think for America the light has come together like a wedge in Ukraine, I saw an interview with the American Colonel Harry Tabakh, an employee of the State Department in Ukraine. He compared Ukraine in importance with Zimbabwe and about his words: where is America and we have a problem with China and Russia, with immigrants, riots in the streets and Ukraine, so what strategic importance Ukraine has for America. So do not flatter yourself.
          4. +4
            13 June 2021 10: 14
            As they decide in the United States, so in Ukraine they will "want." At the same time, they will not ask the opinions of ordinary citizens, they asked for their right to an opinion from the citizens :)))
          5. +4
            13 June 2021 10: 18
            Quote: Scorpion85
            Kiev will not do anything, moreover, the United States will be on its side as it is not interested in making concessions to Russia anywhere and in anything.

            Ha ha ha! That is why Biden made it clear in advance to Zelensky that he did not notice feel sad it.
            1. +1
              13 June 2021 11: 43
              Ukropolitical scientist Konstantin (in Novoukrainsky - Kost) Bondarenko spoke about possible (in his opinion) "a nightmare for Ukraine": "that Russia and the United States will agree and Ukraine will have to fulfill the Minsk agreements, which it has been ignoring since 2015 at the behest of the same Washington." Can you imagine the whole horror of the ukropolitiks: you have to honestly perform their promises?

              Only in vain are Kostya and the Ukrainian vassals of the Americans worried: this is not why the State Department spent money and staged a coup d'etat in Ukraine in order to just hand it over to Russia for a cheap price! No, the United States, of course, does not mind selling ukroaborigens profitably to Russia. Only Russia is not going to pay as dearly as the United States wants to pay for what belongs to it by right historically. lol
              1. +2
                13 June 2021 13: 15
                .... Russia is not going ...
                The United States grew from Ukraine ----- Antirossiyu.Vykachivayut funds, as a result of the economy fell ..... maybe they have already recouped their costs many times? Biden's son figured .. .... What are the benefits for them, for the Biden? Easy to cut. ..
                Now the states are different and Ukraine is already different than before ... recourse
          6. +1
            13 June 2021 14: 52
            Fermented fat ate ?! Dearie you do not have enough to go against the will of the master!
        2. +1
          13 June 2021 17: 23
          Quote: Captive
          If there is a talk about "independent" and if some serious decisions are made, then Kiev will comply and will not vyaknet.

          Small amendment. Kiev will only say and do what the Americans say. What Russia says, they will happily laugh and turn a deaf ear. Unfortunately, we must admit that, unlike the United States, we are no one for them.
          1. -1
            14 June 2021 03: 57
            Quote: Gritsa
            Unfortunately, we must admit that, unlike the United States, we are no one for them.

            The Georgians thought so too .... but there is a big one .... We are close, and the Americans are far away. When they were driven into the cauldrons, they were the ones who requested negotiations, now the events are forgotten and the podzeli again, apparently until the next click on the nose
        3. 0
          13 June 2021 20: 43
          Quote: Captive
          And who is interested in the nonsense of Selyukov's idiot Kuleba?
          Kuleba - ailment; can be different:
          Continuous, recurrent and fur-like.
        4. 0
          13 June 2021 21: 21
          Quote: Captive
          And who is interested in the nonsense of Selyukov's idiot Kuleba?

          Interested only in the same Seluk as Kuleba, and all the Raguls and Bandera. And for the USA and the West, Ukraine is the same third country as Equatorial Guinea or Rwanda.
      2. +4
        13 June 2021 09: 40
        Kuleba is a "treasure trove" of Ukrainian diplomacy! Apparently, Ukraine has decided to change the "owner", but the old one has not given the go-ahead yet, and the reaction will not be predictable.
      3. +1
        13 June 2021 10: 15
        ..... what they say in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine .....
        Yes, they rave, as usual and wassat lol Nothing more.
        1. 0
          13 June 2021 21: 24
          Quote: Reptiloid
          Yes, they rave, as usual, and nothing else.

          "Cocaine with silver dust All your roads are covered with snow. You did not know how to steal then, Thieves taught at the bazaar."
          1. +1
            13 June 2021 21: 50
            Quote: tihonmarine
            ..... "Cocaine with silver dust All your roads are covered with snow. You did not know how to steal then, Thieves taught at the bazaar."
            that's exactly what it is. wassat I'll go look for this song ...
    2. +17
      13 June 2021 08: 27
      Closer, Banderlog. To the leg!
      1. +9
        13 June 2021 08: 38
        even a US directive cannot force Ukraine to comply with the Minsk agreements.
        Look how independent they are!
        1. +2
          13 June 2021 10: 30
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          .... Look, how independent!
          if the USA cannot, then who urged them on and gave them alms? How many years the puppies rode at their behest, and now they will not obey, request whether.
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      2. +11
        13 June 2021 08: 38
        Quote: Flashpoint
        Closer, Banderlog. To the leg!

        So what? Just like in that opera, we will sing: "Now I am a Turk, not a Cossack" and again there will be "the whole world with us." But who else would have paid the debts for us?
        1. +12
          13 June 2021 08: 59
          The outskirts of Elena will be drained and trade will be tough .. But now Ukraine will not be the same as in the days of the USSR. More than one generation will pay for these years of betrayal hi Such a rich territory was plundered in five years and even a civil war was staged .. Here a special talent is needed. angry
          Eh Ukraine ..
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          2. +1
            13 June 2021 21: 37
            Quote: xorek
            Outskirts of Elena will be drained and trade will be tough

            It was leaked and put up for auction long ago. (This I am not writing about the people but about the junta).
    3. +4
      13 June 2021 08: 28
      Two guards of the vegetable warehouse while away the night shift.
      1. +3
        13 June 2021 09: 18
        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
        "A terrible dream for Ukraine"

        So "A terrible dream for Ukraine" has come true!
        1. +1
          13 June 2021 21: 41
          Quote: 30 vis
          So "A terrible dream for Ukraine" has come true!

          Yes, this "lady" has not slept for a long time.
    4. +13
      13 June 2021 08: 34
      "... he proposes to leave from under the wing of the United States and go over to the UK, or create an alliance with Turkey." (c) This is purely Ukrainian. "Confused, confused, confused, moth, well, who is to blame ..." what
    5. +10
      13 June 2021 08: 37
      Behind the back of Ukraine ..... pfff, the slaves are.
      1. +9
        13 June 2021 08: 57
        Actually, this Kuleba needs to remember that behind the back of Ukraine, or rather, on the back of Ukraine, there is an American boot and everything else. winked
        1. 0
          13 June 2021 21: 49
          Quote: Captive
          or rather ON the back of Ukraine, an American boot and everything else.

          American boot, does not walk on the back, but somewhere along the tail.
    6. +6
      13 June 2021 08: 41
      Kiev is especially frightened by the fact that the Americans will force Ukraine to comply with the Minsk agreements

      So why then it was necessary to sign them? What would once again demonstrate your non-negotiability? Not the state, but some kind of fake.
      1. +1
        13 June 2021 14: 45
        Four hundred and four)))
        1. 0
          13 June 2021 21: 50
          Quote: tTshka
          Four hundred and four)))

          Simply put - "black out".
    7. +4
      13 June 2021 08: 41
      They are serious about England or Turkey fool Washington has planted more than one lard of greenery in them not for this !!!! If Kiev kicks up, then I think the United States will outlive their genetics that Ukraine will become silk for a very long time, but what Kuleba says is so for the Ukrainians themselves, like we won't listen to anyone, yeah.
      1. 0
        13 June 2021 21: 52
        Quote: Murmur 55
        If Kiev kicks up, then I think the United States will outlive their genetics so that Ukraine will become silk for a very long time

        Why dumbbells, it is not hygienic and unethical. It's just that the IMF made me pay off debts within a year.
    8. -6
      13 June 2021 08: 44
      If Ukraine has a nightmare and it pisses on the bed, who cares?
    9. +4
      13 June 2021 08: 47
      Quote: Scorpion85
      Ukraine is not worried ... Kiev's position is not to accept any agreements, .. ... "Therefore, it does not bother me at all ... But we will not allow and will not ... And this is a completely tough and principled position."

      And then Putin and Biden got scared and even decided not to pronounce the word “Ukraine” without the permission of this peasant! lol
    10. +3
      13 June 2021 08: 48
      There are no adequate and smart politicians in Ukraine today.
      1. +6
        13 June 2021 09: 09
        When were they there?
        1. 0
          13 June 2021 21: 53
          Quote: El Chuvachino
          When were they there?

          Bezborodko, under Catherine the Great.
      2. +4
        13 June 2021 09: 19
        Yes, there were not many of them before.
    11. +2
      13 June 2021 08: 48
      If the Ukrainian authorities manage to get out of the states, and become cancer in front of the islanders, then the tension between the old and the new owner will be noble. As long as the states are dogging with small-shavens, the world will only benefit from this. Although the dukes can become cancer without getting out of under. hi
    12. -1
      13 June 2021 09: 33
      Britain and Turkey are not even asked whether they need an alliance with Ukraine or not. It must be necessary!
    13. -7
      13 June 2021 09: 57
      Very competent comments laughing
      Britain after leaving the EU has become more active in foreign policy.
      While the States were engaged in internal affairs London, the face of the head of MI6, was active with Ankara and Kiev, so Bondarenko is wrong and wrong
    14. 0
      13 June 2021 10: 17
      Kiev is afraid of the fact that the Americans will force Ukraine to comply with the Minsk agreements
      Nothing scares Kiev so much as the fulfillment of its obligations. At the same time, they fear that if the Americans say it is necessary, then it will have to be contrary to their wishes. Here are just big doubts that the Americans will do it. They can promise the Russian side, but no more. They really need a conflict, for which Russia is simply obliged to spend its resources and be in constant tension from an inadequate Ukrainian neighbor.
      1. -1
        13 June 2021 10: 27
        They really need a conflict on which Russia is simply obliged to spend its resources

        Yes, it’s not a matter of resources (we have an abundance of them); it’s a matter of how many smart people will have to be dispatched for this to neutralize the threat.
        It's all about the human resource, not the material.
        1. 0
          13 June 2021 10: 30
          Did I really focus on the material resource? I wrote a resourceыwhich can be material, financial, human, intellectual ...
    15. -1
      13 June 2021 10: 59
      “Do you have nightmares?”
      - I enjoy them.
      What are the undesirable consequences for the Russian Federation? But there may be.
    16. 0
      13 June 2021 11: 50
      For Ukraine, this meeting itself is in principle undesirable. But nobody cares about the opinion of Ukraine.
    17. 0
      13 June 2021 12: 10
      They are afraid of negotiations. That's the whole announcement.
    18. +1
      13 June 2021 15: 57
      Do the horses suspect that foreign patrons can throw them?
    19. 0
      13 June 2021 22: 17
      Is England an independent value? Its independence is determined by the long leash of the Washington Reich Chancellery))) an even better ally is Turkey, which itself is now looking for whose back to hide)))
    20. 0
      13 June 2021 22: 28
      Instead, he proposes to leave from under the wing of the United States and go over to the UK, or create an alliance with Turkey.

      Having done this trick, Nenka will get in the eye from the States, in the second from the Brit, the Turks will charge in the third, rear, and ... will return to the stall ... fool
    21. 0
      14 June 2021 20: 02
      even a US directive cannot force Ukraine to comply with the Minsk agreements. Instead, he proposes to leave from under the wing of the United States and go over to the UK, or create an alliance with Turkey.

      Boo ha ha! wassat

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