Russian Su-30SM first approached the Italian Air Force F-35A fighter in the skies over the Baltic Sea

It was confirmed that the Russian Su-30SM fighter "met" the F-35A fighter of the Italian Air Force in the skies over the Baltic Sea. An American-made 5th generation Italian fighter jet flew in the so-called "air police" format. This format in NATO structures involves patrolling the airspace of the Baltic republics aviation allies and protection of the air borders of these countries.

Earlier it was reported that the Italian F-35A arrived in Estonia on a rotational basis and located at the air base in the town of Emari. Earlier, the fighters of the FRG Air Force were deployed there.

The Russian fighter flew in a parallel course with the Italian Air Force "Air Police" fighter, approaching a relatively short distance. Having demonstrated the missile armament to the Italian pilot, the Su-30SM began to gradually move away from the fifth generation fighter.

It is noted that this is the first case of such a rapprochement between the Su-30SM and the F-35A in stories.

In the ministries of defense of the Russian Federation, Italy and the Baltic countries this "meeting", about which сообщает "Military Observer", in the sky over the Baltic Sea has not yet commented.

At the same time, experts believe that the increasing appearance of the F-35 near the Russian borders is NATO's actions to monitor air defense systems. The main task may be related to whether F-35 fighters can remain invisible to Russian air defense calculations in the Kaliningrad region.

Comments

[Vladimir_2U]

What is the Italian word for “This is unprofessional and irresponsible!”?

By the way, I find it amusing that the F-35, unlike our fighter, has nothing to show except for a naked belly.

[Egoza]

Demonstrating missile weapons to the Italian pilot, the Su-30SM began to gradually move away from the fifth generation fighter.

Didn't he show him the middle finger? In my opinion, this is why the Defense Ministries have not yet commented on this meeting. Polite words are looking for

[Shurik70]

I remember the old "Yeralash", where the kid was given a hat, and convinced that it was an invisible hat.
And he did different kinds of game.
And then he realized that he was n ... deceived. And he was crazy.
So this Italian is fucked up, how he was found

[Bshkaus]

And then he realized that he was n ... deceived. And he was crazy.
So this Italian is fucked up, how he was found

Who found whom? Another big question: information about whether we see their stealth, and they are ours, is a state secret, which is possessed by only a few specialists. In any case, the Su30 is not a stealth and it was definitely herded from far away, so our pilot was more likely to be fucking. I understand that it is not patriotic, but logical.
Here is the meeting of f22 / 35 with Su57 is a completely different matter: there really a meeting can turn out to be a mutual surprise (especially in mountainous terrain), and already at a close combat distance, where superiority depends already on maneuverability

[NIKN]

Quote: Bshkaus

Who found whom another big question:

There is no conspiracy. F-35s in a non-combat situation fly (so as not to reveal the real radar portrait of the aircraft) with lenses and they can be seen like a flashlight in the night.

Quote: Vladimir_2U

By the way, I find it amusing that the F-35, unlike our fighter, has nothing to show except for a naked belly.

It goes without saying, because the weapons are in the compartments.
I don't see a sensation if the pilots looked at it visually. Each completed his task and dispersed.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Bshkaus

Su30 is not a stealth and it was definitely herded from far away, so our pilot was more likely to be fucking.

Why the hell would he be? At our borders, the F-35 was hardly looking for a meeting with the Su-30. The situation when our found an Italian looks more logical, and not vice versa.

[Anzhey V.]

So this Italian is fucked up, how he was found

Is it okay that the Italian first took our board for escort, and only then did the Su-30 arrive?

You should at least watch the video, it seems that we do not live in the Stone Age, the Internet is there.

[Niko]

Anzhej, in the comments in the "news" section - the main thing is "patriotism"! Haven't you noticed yet?

[Anzhey V.]

Anzhej, in the comments in the "news" section - the main thing is "patriotism"! Haven't you noticed yet?

Unfortunately no...

I try to read the comments as rarely as possible, and when I read, I hope to see some interesting notes from professionals, as it was before.

But, it seems, "as before" will no longer be.

PS: This crazy orgy in the comments is very sad.

[pilot306]

This is the Russian version of the censor, get out of here.

[Niko]

Quote: pilot306

This is the Russian version of the censor, get out of here.

There is no need to pass off someone's limitation as a general Russian culture. (And save yours: "if you don't like it, go away," save it for the gateway

[pilot306]

What has the gateway here? What have you fantasized for yourself?
This was good advice from one reasonable person to another equally reasonable one.

[Niko]

Quote: pilot306

What has the gateway here? What have you fantasized for yourself?
This was good advice from one reasonable person to another equally reasonable one.

I apologize.

[pilot306]

Accepted, understood.
Sorry for the cons, removed.

[Niko]

Quote: Anjay V.

Anzhej, in the comments in the "news" section - the main thing is "patriotism"! Haven't you noticed yet?

Unfortunately no...

I try to read the comments as rarely as possible, and when I read, I hope to see some interesting notes from professionals, as it was before.

But, it seems, "as before" will no longer be.

PS: This crazy orgy in the comments is very sad.

I regularly have the same thoughts, but until we are all alone, all is not lost.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Hmmm ... women used to be prettier, and vodka was drunker ... sadness ... I also want the USSR as before. Will this suit you?

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Anjay V.

Is it okay that the Italian first took our board for escort, and only then did the Su-30 arrive?

Where does the information about who discovered whom earlier come from? Near our borders, the Italian takes the Su-30 for escort and waits for a missile weapon to be poked in its nose, and then flies away. Is it not destiny to fly a little earlier without giving additional information on the aircraft's EPR to a potential enemy? Where is the logic ?

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Bad_gr

Quote: Anjay V.

Is it okay that the Italian first took our board for escort, and only then did the Su-30 arrive?

Where does the information about who discovered whom earlier come from? Near our borders, the Italian takes the Su-30 for escort and waits for a missile weapon to be poked in its nose, and then flies away. Is it not destiny to fly a little earlier without giving additional information on the aircraft's EPR to a potential enemy? Where is the logic ?

Do you have enough reason to understand that "borders" are at least two sides involved ????
Our border ends where the Estonian, Latvian, Lithuanian begins.
And vice versa.
And our Su-30SM was, accordingly, close to their borders.
So there is a meeting of two planes, where each is near its own borders.

This is how you learn to think ..

[Bad_gr]

Quote: SovAr238A

Do you have enough reason to understand that "borders" are at least two sides involved ????

Well, what can I do ...
The article does not say that this was the air border of neighboring states.

Quote: SovAr238A

This is how you learn to think ..

Start with yourself before giving advice.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Bad_gr

Quote: SovAr238A

Do you have enough reason to understand that "borders" are at least two sides involved ????

Well, what can I do ...
The article does not say that this was the air border of neighboring states.

Quote: SovAr238A

This is how you learn to think ..

Start with yourself before giving advice.

Articles on VO are written in the way that "party policy" needs.
The brain is given to a person in order to separate politics from reality ...
Apparently it is not given to you if you are ready to rely entirely on the person who wrote the text on VO ...

[Bad_gr]

Quote: SovAr238A

The brain is given to a person in order to separate politics from reality ...

Will there be links to the original source of this "wise" thought?

Quote: SovAr238A

Apparently it is not given to you if you are ready to rely entirely on the person who wrote the text on VO ...

When I have the opportunity to find additional data on the topic under discussion, I share information, including links from where, what came from, in contrast to some who talk to an opponent through the lip.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Bad_gr

Quote: SovAr238A

The brain is given to a person in order to separate politics from reality ...

Will there be links to the original source of this "wise" thought?

Quote: SovAr238A

Apparently it is not given to you if you are ready to rely entirely on the person who wrote the text on VO ...

When I have the opportunity to find additional data on the topic under discussion, I share information, including links from where, what came from, in contrast to some who talk to an opponent through the lip.

Proofs, brother ...
I will go back 20 years ago ... in attempts at normal internet communication ...
Where is your proof?
An article on this site for proofs is considered a base bad manners ...
And you don't know what "through the lip" is ...
The Internet didn't give you such a concept ...
And do not bring personal children's problems to the general court ...

[Captain45]

Quote: Bad_gr

Is it not destiny to fly a little earlier without giving additional information on the aircraft's EPR to a potential enemy? Where is the logic ?

Yes, the purchased Italian was or was "Novice" poisoned to hand over all the terrible military secrets of NATO

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Anjay V.

You should at least watch the video, it seems that we do not live in the Stone Age, the Internet is there.

The century on the street is not stone, but it is not always possible to look for additional information on the basis of an article you have read, on the Internet. Therefore, the conclusions on the article are completely different: some in their conclusions are guided only by the information that is in the article, others, having rummaged in the net, give out conclusions on the events from the article, it is not clear on what basis.
It is so difficult to provide a link from where additional information on the event under discussion was obtained.

[akarfoxhound]

Initially, there was an escort of the propeller side, most likely our An-12BK (judging by the engines and wingtips) by the Italian F-35 from the left side, quite close ("sucking the wing" on the airplane) to the left of the Italian Su-30 approached, most likely raised from DS, ours approached at a distance, without pinching the 35th between himself and the heavy cargo. The Italian, seeing the interceptor, rolled off to the left, in a relatively free direction, which he did quite competently (well, not on the transport to the right). He settled down to the right of 35, "sketched" to each other, then ours showed the suspension, as a warning, the Italian rolled off. Everything was mutually literate and mutually polite, everyone did their job.
NATO members regularly (but not always) climb to our military "big" aircraft flying into the Kaliningrad enclave, ours and the DS pick up interceptors, the adversary retreats, everything is banal, routine, daily. You are right, who saw whom there and on the basis of what they raised the DS - they will not tell the layman, the rest is idle chatter

[IL-18]

Quote: Shurik70

So this Italian is fucked up, how he was found

Italians behave strangely! To satisfy the curiosity about what there in the Kaliningrad region the air defense can consider, it was enough to launch a balloon with a similar EPR. Do they have a special department that does not catch mice at all?

[seregatara1969]

here it worries me too, suddenly would have left abruptly and what?

[family tree]

Elena, well, kind of a grown woman.

[Ren]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

What is the Italian word for “This is unprofessional and irresponsible!”?

Non e professionale e irresponsible!

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Ren

Non e professionale e irresponsible!

Thank you, grace, or something like that.

Except for "La frombula di Gvereschi per tutto mio", I do not know anything.

[novel66]

But did they sell them with weapons?

[DominickS]

By the way, I find it amusing that the F-35, unlike our fighter, has nothing to show except for a naked belly. lol

The F-35 has an internal weapons bay.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: DominickS

The F-35 has an internal weapons bay.

Thank you, kind person, enlightened! (The irony is)

[IL-18]

Quote: DominickS

The F-35 has an internal weapons bay.

Come on ... That's what I'm looking at ... And what? After the demonstration of his missiles and cannon, the pilot will not get it in the neck from the leadership, that he has ceased to be considered invisible?
In fact, when Greece and LLC fires F-35s and uses them against Turkey (this is the most likely scenario for using this gadget against something really modern from air defense), then we will find out how invisible this stealth is with open and closed compartments.

[AlexVas44]

If there is nothing outside, then on the internal suspension there are (maybe):
- GAU-22 / A cannon (220 rounds);
- two medium-range missile launchers AIM-120 C / D AMRAAM or ASRAAM;
- two UAB GBU-31 JDAM (908 kg each) or eight UAB SDB, or KR AGM-154 JSOW, or one-time cluster bombs (RBK) CBU-103M105.

[mark1]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

What is the Italian word for “This is unprofessional and irresponsible!”?

Something like this -

"Whipping madonna di um besto per bako castella de membrano hemaro incheso sarvelo chets khan durala!"

[Cananecat]

The funny thing is that the 35th has everything hidden in the belly ... it's like boasting about a machine gun in front of a man with a barrel in his shoulder holster.

[Peak]

Experts believe that the increasing appearance of the F-35 near the Russian borders is NATO's actions to monitor air defense systems. The main task may be related to whether F-35 fighters can remain invisible to Russian air defense calculations in the Kaliningrad region.

As you can see, the "Italian" was spotted and intercepted. For now, conditionally, a fighter, but in a real combat situation ground and naval air defense systems will work with a real demonstration of the damaging properties of air defense missile systems ...

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Canecat

The funny thing is that the 35th has everything hidden in the belly ... it's like boasting about a machine gun in front of a man with a barrel in his shoulder holster.

Well, if there were at least the same machine gun in the holster, it would be funny, but usually the pestles are in the holster.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

By the way, I find it amusing that the F-35, unlike our fighter, has nothing to show except for a naked belly.

Well, yes ... compartments with weapons in the "bare belly".

[Anachoret]

can F-35 fighters remain invisible to Russian air defense crews in the Kaliningrad region.

Answer ... Maybe, if these F35s stay away from the borders of the Kaliningrad region and Russia as a whole)))

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Anchorite

Answer ... Maybe, if these F35s stay away from the borders of the Kaliningrad region and Russia as a whole)))

This is yes.
By the way, it is dangerous to joke about pingwitos, here the penguin lovers avoid mercilessly from the stealth mode.

[Bshkaus]

This is yes.
By the way, it is dangerous to joke about penguitos, here the penguin lovers pass by mercilessly from the stealth mode. laughing

You picked up the minuses solely for an unsuccessful banter with a bare belly, Americanophiles have nothing to do with it (no offense)

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Anchorite

can F-35 fighters remain invisible to Russian air defense crews in the Kaliningrad region.

Answer ... Maybe, if these F35s stay away from the borders of the Kaliningrad region and Russia as a whole)))

And the borders of Poland, the Balts - where will you go?

Or are we only allowed to defend our borders?
Balts, Poles, Swedes and other NATO members - you can't defend their borders according to your opinion?

It comes to you that there is one border, and there are two sides at this border ???

[lucul]

By the way, I find it funny that the F-35, unlike our fighter, except for a naked belly, there is nothing to show

No no no )))
The whole tsimes is that, as our Su-30SM discovered this invisibility, and also flew next to it)))
After all, our Israeli "partners", here they knocked their heels on the chest, they say the F-35 is all so invisible, it flies invisible both over Iran and over Syria))))

[Bshkaus]

By the way, I find it amusing that the F-35, unlike our fighter, has nothing to show except for a naked belly. lol

It is very strange that this is funny for you. Agree that we are not talking about a man "he is a castrato and a eunuch" only for the reason that "the basis of the life of Mr. Pe-Zhe" is hidden behind a fly. I would like to ask that the F35, F22 and Su-57 have internal compartments for missiles - this is a useful thing, by the way: it makes you think hard 10 times before cutting, or forcing a plane with a "bare belly" to change course.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Bshkaus

It is very strange that this is funny for you. Agree that we are not talking about a man "he is a castrato and a eunuch" only for the reason that "the basis of the life of Mr. Pe-Zhe" is hidden behind a fly.

Don't spawn entities, sometimes it's funny it's just funny.

So, it is enough to roll the Su-30 aside to demonstrate the weapons, and the F-35 will have to open the doors for this, which will most likely be perceived by the start of the attack.

Quote: Bshkaus

By the way, a useful thing: it makes you think hard 10 times before cutting, or forcing a plane with a "bare belly" to change course.

What is the usefulness? No one in their right mind will send a fighter on patrol without weapons, and no one in their right mind will cut a fighter.

Quote: Bshkaus

I would like to inquire that the F35, F22 and Su-57 have internal compartments for missiles.

Thanks to another educator.

By the way, it will sound funny: "The Russian aggressive Su-57 aggressively demonstrated its bare belly to our peaceful F-35"

[Bshkaus]

Don't spawn entities, sometimes it's funny it's just funny.

and I'm not going because I don't see points of contact

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Quote: Bshkaus

It is very strange that this is funny for you. Agree that we are not talking about a man "he is a castrato and a eunuch" only for the reason that "the basis of the life of Mr. Pe-Zhe" is hidden behind a fly.

Don't spawn entities, sometimes it's funny it's just funny.

So, it is enough to roll the Su-30 aside to demonstrate the weapons, and the F-35 will have to open the doors for this, which will most likely be perceived by the start of the attack.

It is enough just to change the operating mode of the radar ...

[IL-18]

Quote: Bshkaus

internal bays for missiles is a useful thing, by the way: it makes you think 10 times hard before cutting, or forcing a plane with a "bare belly" to change course.

Type on planes of the 5th generation fly exclusively inadequate, ready "the whole world to dust"? I wonder how they VVK go?

[dmmyak40]

He has the same weapons in the compartments, and not on the external sling.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: dmmyak40

He has the same weapons in the compartments, and not on the external sling.

You are already the eighth educator! Bow to the ground!

[dmmyak40]

Well, learning is light. So, you look, and remember ... Repetitia est matera studiorum!

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: dmmyak40

Well, learning is light. So, you look, and remember ...

Well, if you are in all seriousness, then in irony you do not know how, at all.
You definitely did not succeed in reading the comments before posting your own.

[dmmyak40]

God forbid you, my dear! What an irony ?! Naked and cynical sarcasm! And so, of course - it's funny!
PS Minus - well, well ...

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: dmmyak40

PS Minus - well, well ...

Not me for the first time.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: dmmyak40

God forbid you, my dear! What an irony ?! Naked and cynical sarcasm! And so, of course - it's funny!

Those. Did you understand that I was aware of the F-35's weapons bay, but nevertheless decided to enlighten me? And where is the irony and even more so sarcasm? But it is impossible to praise the eighth "enlightener" except without irony, whether you have understood this is definitely not clear.

[Artem76]

Vladimir, sansei, enroll me as the first to be your student ...
By tomorrow evening, you will be the most enlightened master in weapons for the F-35

[1976AG]

On such fighters, the readiness to use weapons is indicated by opening the doors of the in-fuselage weapons compartment.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: 1976AG

On such fighters, the readiness to use weapons is indicated by opening the doors of the in-fuselage weapons compartment.

How would a Su-30 pilot react to this?

[1976AG]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Quote: 1976AG

On such fighters, the readiness to use weapons is indicated by opening the doors of the in-fuselage weapons compartment.

How would a Su-30 pilot react to this?

He must react according to the instructions, but how he will react in practice is already a question for him personally.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: 1976AG

He must react according to the instructions, but how he will react in practice is already a question for him personally.

I am not familiar with these, but this does not mean that they do not exist. Well, of course, I understand that for a plane flying next to the side of the plane, missiles do not pose a particular instant threat.
By the way, the thought came to mind, opening the doors in view of the opponent and his radar can give extra data about the portrait of the "invisible".

[1976AG]

We are not talking about an instant threat, just opening the hatches means the same as directly demonstrating missiles. As for the portrait of the invisible, well, yes, it is, but this is inevitable and not critical.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: 1976AG

On such fighters, the readiness to use weapons is indicated by opening the doors of the in-fuselage weapons compartment.

And if the opponents' planes are flying parallel, at a distance, literally, of outstretched arms from each other?

[1976AG]

Quote: Bad_gr

Quote: 1976AG

On such fighters, the readiness to use weapons is indicated by opening the doors of the in-fuselage weapons compartment.

And if the opponents' planes are flying parallel, at a distance, literally, of outstretched arms from each other?

So what ? What is the problem ?

[Bad_gr]

Quote: 1976AG

So what ? What is the problem ?

Do they have missiles that can shoot down an aircraft flying alongside, parallel course, wing to wing?

[1976AG]

Quote: Bad_gr

Quote: 1976AG

So what ? What is the problem ?

Do they have missiles that can shoot down an aircraft flying alongside, parallel course, wing to wing?

This is an international signaling system, not a preparation for an attack.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

By the way, I find it amusing that the F-35, unlike our fighter, has nothing to show except for a naked belly.

Well, he still has missiles. Just in close maneuver combat, if he happened in that situation, the F-35 did not
competitor to our Su-30 SM

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Mar. Tira

Well, he still has rockets

I am even aware that the cannon may well be like a gopher, we do not see him but he is.

Quote: Mar. Tira

Just in close maneuvering combat, if he happened in that situation, the F-35 did not
competitor to our Su-30 SM

Absolute yes.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

I even know that the cannon may well be,

".... the GAU-22 / A cannon of the F-35 aircraft is a four-barreled modification of the 25-mm GAU-12 Equaliser cannon. At the same time, its ammunition load is 182 rounds ....."

[Sentinel-vs]

Is it for 2-3 short bursts of ammunition?

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Sentinel-vs

Is it for 2-3 short bursts of ammunition?

Ours are almost the same
Su-27
Cannon GSh-30-1: --------------------------------- 1
- Caliber, mm ------------------------------------ 30
- Rate of fire, rounds / min - 1500
- Ammunition, shells ----------------------- 150

[decimalegio]

As an aircraft cannon, I consider the Russian Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-1 to be the best in its class. In fact, it has remarkable performance considering that it uses an "old-fashioned" single-chamber, short-recoil mechanism, similar in principle to a Browning machine gun from World War II. In terms of performance, it is equal to BK 27, but weighs half as much. Instead of GIAT 30M791, two GSh-30s could be carried.
However, I would prefer other cartridges. If the ammunition of the 30 x 165 Russian guns were loaded with lighter projectiles to increase muzzle velocity, their aerial combat capabilities would be improved at the cost of some loss in the effectiveness of ground attacks. But this can be explained by the exact choice. A ground attack from a cannon has a higher priority than using a cannon in aerial combat.

[dauria]

Just in close maneuvering combat, if he happened in that situation, the F-35 did not
competitor to our Su-30 SM

It depends not so much on the aircraft, but much more on the characteristics of the melee missiles. In the Anglo-Argentine war, the Harriers had an all-round version of the Sidewinder, and the Argentine Mirages (Israeli-built) had an old version of the same missile. As a result, the air combat score is deplorable for Argentina.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

By the way, I find it amusing that the F-35, unlike our fighter, has nothing to show except for a naked belly.

So everything is inside, that's why it's called the fifth generation.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: saturn.mmm

So everything is inside, that's why it's called the fifth generation.

You are already the ninth!

[mark1]

Russian Su-30SM first approached the Italian Air Force F-35A fighter in the skies over the Baltic Sea

And our pilot hit him with a pissing mop on the lantern ...

[novel66]

photo is good ... the falcon and the iron flew together

[Grandfather]

Quote: novel xnumx

photo is good ... the falcon and the iron flew together

but their Minister of Defense looks better than the F-35.

[novel66]

dead, defense

[Grandfather]

Quote: novel xnumx

dead, defense

but better than the F-35?

[Andrey VOV]

Our DRYING will be prettier)))) but this young lady, as it were, did not cut these things in half

[novel66]

any more elegant

[stas-xnumx]

But slender))))

[askort154]

novel66 dead, defense

Vobla! Even the harness slid down on my ass.

[common man]

Quote: novel xnumx

dead, defense

Well, tse for an amateur.

[Bshkaus]

but their Minister of Defense looks better than the F-35.

We were deceived, we disperse! Firstly, this is a fake, I googled it, there is a photo where the pants are higher and there is no crime.
Secondly, this is not the Minister of Defense: this is not Robert Pinoni or Elizabeth Trenta - I tried to identify it by "karma" comparing the photo. But the young lady herself turned out to be niche, her photo was found, but who she is is not clear.

[Sentinel-vs]

Stop posting nonsense !!!

And in the unedited photo - Maria Boschi, Minister of Constitutional Reforms of Italy

And the minister of defense in Italy is the bearded uncle Lorenzo Guerini.

[APASUS]

Quote: Sentinel-vs

And the minister of defense in Italy is the bearded uncle Lorenzo Guerini.

[Grandfather]

Stop posting nonsense !!!

that is, how they mock us, you don't care ... You can't touch THEM? are you from nata?

[Pechkin]

They do not post that this is the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Pechkin

They do not post that this is the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation.

this is Shoigu's guard ... this is sacred.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Dead Day

Can't you touch THEM?

You can't lie blatantly.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Dead Day

Can't you touch THEM?

You can't lie blatantly.

Here's an example of the pros and cons of VO. little provocation highlighted everything like an X-ray. do you understand on the downside how much "love for Russia" is there?

[Wolf]

But all the same, this minister, Maria Bosque, in which case it is necessary to take prisoner and ALIVE, the minister of defense is not interesting.

[Avior]

funny photo.
fake, of course

Besides, this is not the Minister of Defense.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Avior

Besides, this is not the Minister of Defense.

everyone is too serious.

[vitvit123]

From this angle, the original photo is also valid.

[Wolf]

But all the same, this minister, Maria Bosquet, in which case it is necessary to take prisoner and ALIVE, the minister of defense is not interesting. 

[Avior]

Now there are so many wonderful ministers in the world that they fight and fight to the point of exhaustion

What do you think about the Minister of Justice in another Mediterranean country?
We take prisoner on occasion? :)))

[IL-18]

The girl is clearly interested in masochism. This is what she feels from being inserted into ... the ropes, pulling the thong like that? (!)
Or demonstrates an iron will.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Dead Day

but their Minister of Defense looks better than the F-35.

Grandpa cool down the enthusiasm, this is a fotoeba.

[askort154]

It was confirmed that the Russian Su-30SM fighter "met" the F-35A fighter of the Italian Air Force in the skies over the Baltic Sea.

Well, yes, he flew, flew Su - 30 CM, and accidentally saw the "invisible".

[loki565]

Well, yes, he flew, flew Su - 30 CM, and accidentally met the "invisible"

Rather drove away the annoying penguin)))

[Peak]

Quote: askort154

Well, yes, he flew, flew Su - 30 CM, and accidentally saw the "invisible".

Let it be - "accidentally".

[askort154]

Let it be so - "by accident".
Yes, let's not upset the Israeli fans of the "invisible" that as soon as the "invisible" appeared on our radar, the duty Su was immediately sent to him.

[Avior]

think about where they were filming - and it will become clear that there is no duty officer Su

[Piramidon]

Quote: Avior

think about where they were filming - and it will become clear that there is no duty officer Su

Perhaps the "drying" flew out in pairs and removed from the second. And both were on duty.

[Avior]

in the video above, you can see from which plane they were filming

[Bez 310]

I read the comments and never cease to be amazed ...
Attempts to "witty" speak out about the trivial news are awe-inspiring.

[askort154]

Bez 310 ....I read the comments, and I never cease to be amazed ...
Attempts to "witty" speak out about the trivial news are awe-inspiring.

Don't be surprised. When there is nothing to discuss in an article, "discussions" in the form of humor and sarcasm begin. But some do not see it because of their increased "seriousness". And this is depressing.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: askort154

And this is depressing.

from the level that they now consider themselves quite sarcasm and funny humor ... :(

[Troll]

This is a demonstration that they are not "invisible" to us. And this is precisely the essence of this meeting.

[bar]

Russian Su-30SM first approached the Italian Air Force F-35A fighter in the skies over the Baltic Sea

... and pretended not to notice him, so as not to upset

[Tagan]

The main task may be related to whether F-35 fighters can remain invisible to Russian air defense calculations in the Kaliningrad region.
Remained?

[Herman 4223]

They can. If those don't work.

[Jacket in stock]

The main task may be related to whether F-35 fighters can remain invisible to Russian air defense calculations in the Kaliningrad region.

Did the author come up with this, or have he heard enough of such experts?
To check invisibility, the "penguin" must fly without a Luneberg lens. Those. to enable our radars to scan its real EPR diagram in natural form.
Any spy would sell his soul for such a gift.

[Herman 4223]

Well, if you want, you can buy or recruit a pilot. To hijack a plane to Russia.

[rocket757]

Russian Su-30SM first approached the Italian Air Force F-35A fighter in the skies over the Baltic Sea

... Is this an event worth discussing?

[cniza]

Someone itches in one place and wants sensations ...

[rocket757]

And what is the sensation ... the usual, for the military, planned work.

[cniza]

For the military, yes, but someone is looking for fried for the layman ...

[rocket757]

There is little new information. And then there will be fortune-telling, they will crush water in a mortar.

[cniza]

So even this fact is interesting only to professionals, from the point of view of who and how discovered, how long the interception was carried out, etc.

[rocket757]

Well yes. It is clear that the military, specialists receive and use information IN BUSINESS.

[cniza]

And we just argue from the couch and that's okay ...

[Bshkaus]

Is this an event worth discussing?

Yes, the question is actually VERY serious: first of all, at what distance Su30 detected F35. The answer to this question is a state secret and it is not clear to me on the basis of what the sofa experts decided that it was the Su30 that discovered the F35.

[rocket757]

Well, it is in the article that there is nothing that would be worth discussing.

[Bshkaus]

Well, it is in the article that there is nothing that would be worth discussing.

yes, that's the point, but comments ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: rocket757

Is this an event worth discussing?

Well, don't discuss it. Walk by.

[rocket757]

And what, our remarks prevent someone from discussing something?

[Marachuh]

F35 looks like a victim against our Alpha male! After all, Sukhoi makes top chariots!

[decimalegio]

as another user correctly noted, besides the cannon, the weapon is in the inner compartment. Although, if desired, it can be configured with external loads. Then the plane has a low radar signature and is not invisible to the human eye. You will need a rainbow PREDATOR suit. Apart from this beautiful photo, it's always nice to compare 2 live planes. I forgot, I think the pros respect the pros, so kidding aside, these riders exchanged professional warnings.

[aszzz888]

The main task may be related to the fact can F-35 fighters remain invisible to Russian air defense crews in the Kaliningrad region.

They could not, cannot and will not have such an opportunity. The hyped penguin is an ordinary iron.

[Golddigger 96]

Everything was done correctly, the signatures were recorded for both ground detection equipment and airborne ones. Now this unit will shine like a Christmas tree.

[El Chuvachino]

Unless the 35th was with Luneberg lenses

[zlinn]

with a high degree of probability, he was there not only with lenses, but also with the transponder turned on, so for example right now on the border of Lithuania with Kaliningprad there is a scout Beechcraft and an incomprehensible drone both with transponders, there is too heavy traffic to fly without it

[Mikhail Ya2]

so he has rockets in the inner compartments

Quote: Vladimir_2U

What is the Italian word for “This is unprofessional and irresponsible!”?

By the way, I find it amusing that the F-35, unlike our fighter, has nothing to show except for a naked belly.

[APASUS]

The ministries of defense of the Russian Federation, Italy and the Baltic countries have not yet commented on this "meeting", as reported by "Voenniy Obozrevatel", in the skies over the Baltic Sea.

How so? I thought now a cry would start from all the Baltic toilets that an aggressive neighbor was trying to attack a peaceful F-35

[Bshkaus]

I thought now a cry would start from all the Baltic toilets that an aggressive neighbor was trying to attack a peaceful F-35

You thought wrong. A detailed analysis of what happened will begin: the study of the recorded data and, if possible, the negotiations of the pilots. But the developers of the aircraft and the air defense system will be engaged in this, and on both sides. On the basis of this and similar meetings in the future, new tactics of combat use will be formed.

[tralflot1832]

Judging by the video, the Italians flew in to show themselves. Do with us what you want, within reason, of course .. What kind of IL did we have with the escort SU 30 CM?

[Golddigger 96]

Well, what a minus thanks, since you want jokes, then please watch from 2:59

[cniza]

Demonstrating missile weapons to the Italian pilot, the Su-30SM began to gradually move away from the fifth generation fighter.

This happens often, probably with the F-35 for the first time ...

[Prisoner]

Probably our "accidentally" stumbled upon an f-35. How else? He's invisible.

[Avior]

so-so stuffing that the supposedly invisible F-35 was seen.
now this nonsense is spreading on the Internet, there was little Cook, who had all the electronics turned off right up to the microwave in the galley. :(
judging by the photo, everything was strictly the opposite - the Su-30 was accompanied by the Il, and the F-35 approached them in the same air police mode - it was his direct task, in general, to visually identify the detected Russian aircraft.
Well, unless someone is sure that it was Il who was sent chasing the F-35, but for this you need to be a very patriotic person

[Golddigger 96]

This is not Il, but An 12 about which they wrote not long ago how it was valiantly intercepted by this particular F-35.

[Avior]

Thank you for correcting.
in this case, it doesn't matter, the situation of who intercepted whom is obvious there.

[123456789]

Quote: mark1

Quote: Vladimir_2U

What is the Italian word for “This is unprofessional and irresponsible!”?

Something like this -

"Whipping madonna di um besto per bako castella de membrano hemaro incheso sarvelo chets khan durala!"

Wait a minute! Please slow down. I am writing down! Who is this? Probably the press. "Prisoner of the Caucasus"

[decimalegio]

How many discussions about who saw whom. The Italian Ministry of Defense "" two F-35A aircraft of the Air - Baltic Eagle II, stationed at the Yamari airport in Estonia, were activated by the NATO Joint Aviation Operations Center (CAOC) in Udem (Germany) with a quick takeoff. not to intercept an unidentified aircraft in NATO's area of ​​competence. The aircraft was joined by two Italian fighters during a flight over the international waters of the Baltic Sea.
The F-35A completed the required Visual Identification (VID) procedure and returned to the airbase at the end of hostilities. alarming mission transponders have been disabled.

[decimalegio]

Why are pieces lost during translation ???? I said that probably like all countries (NATO, Russia and China) on jamming missions, the transponders were turned off.

[fox_rudy]

The iron next to the plane looks cool !!!

[outsider]

Quote: lucul

By the way, I find it funny that the F-35, unlike our fighter, except for a naked belly, there is nothing to show

No no no )))
The whole tsimes is that, as our Su-30SM discovered this invisibility, and also flew next to it)))
After all, our Israeli "partners", here they knocked their heels on the chest, they say the F-35 is all so invisible, it flies invisible both over Iran and over Syria))))

- It's good to make the audience laugh: the F-35 approached a Russian plane a hundred meters, from there they saw it visually (just hanging next to it) shouted on the air, called their fighter, he rushed in, rubbed his eyes: “Wow! F-35! "
And all these cries on the forums from the sofas: "Found the" invisible "stealth!" - Not serious, gentlemen. It's funny.