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School without teacher and student without school: Nikita Mikhalkov on reforms and digitalization of the education system

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Large-scale digitalization of education is what modern Russia and, perhaps, the whole world are facing. In this case, the coronavirus pandemic literally helped the main ideologues that a teacher as such is not necessary for modern education - it is enough to have the opportunity to enter the global network and the so-called "tutor" who will not teach the child, but will "help him immerse himself in the digital environment, where he himself will be able to find the appropriate information. "


A school without a teacher and a student without a school is something that some 5-10 years ago was absolutely nonsense. Now, after millions of schoolchildren and students were virtually left to their own devices, it turned out that this is possible. But what can this lead to?

Already now he is showing himself such a variant of "training" and "upbringing". The emerging educational vacuum, which they persistently try to pass off as something progressive, is quickly filled by those who should not be allowed to reach the children within a cannon shot. These are sects, emissaries of extremist and terrorist organizations, and other destructive structures of various kinds. They quickly find the “right language” to attract the child’s attention, to tune him in to “their own wave”. As a result, the executions of peers in schools and technical schools, insane teenagers, cracking down on the homeless on the streets and entrances, unaccountable cruelty and actions that are similar to the actions of a computer game character, where "you can save yourself."

About this, including the endless reforms of the education system and its digitalization, in the program "Besogon" by Nikita Mikhalkov:

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  1. knn54
    knn54 5 June 2021 18: 39
    +16
    As a child, we were frightened by Baba Yaga, who was replaced by Baba-Unified State Exam.
    An incomprehensible thing happens - society seems to be progressing, a person (a cell of society) is degrading.
    Everyone speaks correctly, but no action.
    Children are made into obedient OBJECTED (digitized) individuals.
    Decisions are taken by PARASITES, I can't find another decent name.
    1. tatra
      tatra 5 June 2021 19: 14
      +10
      More precisely, temporary workers who do not care about children, young people, old people and workers. Their goal is to siphon more money, natural resources and raw materials from Russia.
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 5 June 2021 19: 49
        -7
        Whether he says it correctly or not is not important.
        N. Mikhalkov is not an authority for me, after his "creativity".
        So I'm not going to watch the video.
        1. Machito
          Machito 5 June 2021 21: 06
          -3
          Quote: Shurik70
          Whether he says it correctly or not is not important.
          N. Mikhalkov is not an authority for me, after his "creativity".
          So I'm not going to watch the video.

          Mikhalkov's hymns are good at writing and kissing the hands of those in power. And then suffering breeds, that children degrade. So this is the result of the activities of the Mikhalkovs.
          I will never forget how he, in a leather coat with a shovel handle, went to the fascist fortress to attack with his sycophants. And the Drowned Sun in vain won the American Oscar.
          Mikhalkov, you either take off the cross, or put on your panties. He was a communist, became a capitalist. Nothing is sacred. He also tries to teach others.
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 5 June 2021 21: 40
            -2
            Quote: Bearded
            Mikhalkov, you either take off the cross, or put on your panties. He was a communist, became a capitalist.

            Mikhalkov has never been a member of the CPSU.
            Quote: Bearded
            And the Drowned Sun in vain won the American Oscar.

            Why is that? It is not in vain, because American) But I must note that, unlike any opportunistic cheapness of the 90s with "tearing off the veils", Burnt by the Sun is really a talented cinema.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 5 June 2021 21: 51
              +5
              Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Burnt by the Sun is a really talented movie.

              The taste and color .. I personally, I have not seen anything talented ..
              1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 5 June 2021 22: 04
                -6
                Quote: Svarog
                The taste and color .. I personally, I have not seen anything talented ..

                Of course, of course. Anti-Stalin and anti-Soviet talent cannot be laughing
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 5 June 2021 22: 09
                  +2
                  Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                  Of course, of course. Anti-Stalin and anti-Soviet talent cannot be

                  Maybe ... maybe maybe. But not in this case.
                  1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 5 June 2021 22: 22
                    -3
                    Quote: Svarog
                    Maybe ... maybe maybe. But not in this case.

                    As you say. It is stupid to debate.
          2. Svarog
            Svarog 5 June 2021 21: 49
            +2
            Quote: Bearded
            Quote: Shurik70
            Whether he says it correctly or not is not important.
            N. Mikhalkov is not an authority for me, after his "creativity".
            So I'm not going to watch the video.

            Mikhalkov's hymns are good at writing and kissing the hands of those in power. And then suffering breeds, that children degrade. So this is the result of the activities of the Mikhalkovs.
            I will never forget how he, in a leather coat with a shovel handle, went to the fascist fortress to attack with his sycophants. And the Drowned Sun in vain won the American Oscar.
            Mikhalkov, you either take off the cross, or put on your panties. He was a communist, became a capitalist. Nothing is sacred. He also tries to teach others.

            You can't say better about Mikhalkov .. the level of hypocrisy just goes off scale .. hi
          3. Revolver
            Revolver 6 June 2021 02: 50
            +3
            Quote: Bearded
            Mikhalkov's hymns write well

            Well, this is his dad - Three times Gimnyuk of the Soviet Union. But, as he, according to rumors, once answered this: "I may be a hymn, but you will listen to it while standing."
            Quote: Bearded
            Mikhalkov, you either take off the cross, or put on your panties. He was a communist, became a capitalist.

            Well, he was a capitalist in communist times (well, almost).
            "Volga", dacha, special distributors, trips abroad - what is not life at that time.
        2. alystan
          alystan 6 June 2021 00: 04
          +3
          I propose to compare, speculate and give your opinion:
          1. We have a President (an employee of the committee ..., ..., now the head of state) and an Action (film actor, film director, honored cultural worker, etc.).
          2. For the President, the period until 2010 can be omitted, and from 2010 to 2021, leave - a lot of useful and positive things!
          For the Activist, the whole life of cinema, until the 90s is a "bright" period, more bright and good, and then - a "strange" period with no less strange films, manners (taxes from CDs in your pocket, for example) and wonderful (in my glance) analytical program Besogon TV.
          3. For all his indisputable qualities and his usefulness, I again have a lot of questions to the President: for example, starting with his membership in the party and his current "piety", and, as it were, in continuation of his Soviet upbringing and his reverence for everything pre-Soviet (I mean the tsars, in the first place), and again into the stream, as they say, all Soviet monuments are at least not welcome, or even demolished, the tsarist persons are installed with pomp and scope (today to Emperor Alexander III, something masterpiece otrohali), well, etc. etc.
          For the Worker, the beginning is about the same, with God he even outdid him, he put up such an iconostasis behind his back. But I still have fewer claims to him, as to a non-public (or rather, not a state husband) than to the President of a "secular" state. But what the Agent says and says well in his program - it really touches me and here I largely agree with him and support him in this endeavor. Even if now he does not even shoot anything new, I, if anything, will revisit his old films, maybe there are not so many of them, but they are worth it. It's just that through his transmission, I feel his good qualities, and as a person I like him more that way. it is clear that for good and for people he experiences and fights as best he can and knows how. It can be seen that the person has changed for the better.
          And is he an authority for me - I will answer Yes! His actions and deeds are the kindest for me!
          I tried to put it as briefly as possible, it's not easy to compare and discuss such people.
          But this is just my point of view and a proposal for discussion.
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 5 June 2021 21: 47
        +4
        Quote: tatra
        Their goal is to siphon more money, natural resources and raw materials from Russia.

        Irina, hi Their goal, at our expense, is to be happy .. but they are so stupid that they don't even know history and that it tends to repeat itself ..
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 5 June 2021 22: 13
          -6
          Quote: Svarog
          and that it has a tendency to repeat itself.

          And what will 'repeat'? Is it the 17th year? What were the prerequisites? Well, it's clear with Aunt Tatra - there is a clinical case. And what do you see as a threat to Putinocracy? The people, after all, are like those Gogolian peasants-empiricists on the sidelines - will this wheel reach Kazan or not? And you all strive to expose them as carbonaries and rebels. Imagine everything Rossiyushka in the spirit of Aivazovsky - with the ninth wave and storms. And she, sir, is stagnum.
          So will this wheel reach Kazan?
          laughing
    2. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 5 June 2021 19: 39
      -6
      Quote: knn54
      As a child, we were frightened by Baba Yaga, who was replaced by Baba-Unified State Exam.
      An incomprehensible thing happens - society seems to be progressing, a person (a cell of society) is degrading.
      Everyone speaks correctly, but no action.
      Children are made into obedient OBJECTED (digitized) individuals.
      Decisions are taken by PARASITES, I can't find another decent name.

      Ege was introduced not because of a good life - it was unrealistic, it was simply impossible to enter a more or less prestigious university without money, even though you are a genius four times, but without money - you will not pass the entrance exams, now a guy from the village may well pass the exam and go wherever he wants, but fools so and so fly away in the first 2 courses, what with the exam, what without
      1. Bumblebee_3
        Bumblebee_3 5 June 2021 22: 40
        +5
        Vol4ara (Alexander)
        Quote: Vol4ara
        Yege was introduced not because of a good life - it was unrealistic, it was simply impossible to enter a more or less prestigious university without money, even though you are a genius four times, but without money, you will not pass the entrance exams,

        Hmm. This is news to me. I went to college without money. Moreover, he received a scholarship.
        Learning without a teacher (teacher) is not learning! You can’t tell the computer: I don’t understand here, can you explain to me? ”Online education, in my opinion, is distance learning.
        1. Free wind
          Free wind 5 June 2021 23: 55
          0
          Only God knows everything. The teacher can know for a Four. And the student is a three. The kid is taught to read and count in the first grade. And then he learns himself, teachers only help children. If a child wants to learn, he will learn. If not, then no teacher will help.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 6 June 2021 03: 07
            -1
            Quote: Free Wind
            If a child wants to learn, he will learn. If not, then no teacher will help.

            In Soviet times, those who lagged behind were dragged by the ears, but at least they learned the basics by a C. Of course, this greatly slowed down even the bulk of the "fours", not to mention the gifted, but secondary education at the very least was given to everyone, although some of them were hammered into it by force. Maybe in vain - why the heck to the locksmith of the foundations of integral calculus? Maybe it was necessary to separate students from vocational schools not after the 8th grade, but after the 3rd, after elementary school. And teach "according to ability."
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 6 June 2021 04: 14
              0
              Quote: Nagan
              Maybe in vain - why the heck to the locksmith of the foundations of integral calculus?

              And in general, very few people need it. But the locksmith needs it. I had to repeatedly, for example, drill holes in the pipe at the same distance from each other around the circumference. For example, at least make the same revolver that you have in your nightstand. Or calculate the length of the gland winding around the circumference. And why the heck is integral calculus to a taxi driver, crane operator, salesman, defective manager, operator, surgeon, lawyer? So another question is who needs what.
          2. Bumblebee_3
            Bumblebee_3 6 June 2021 16: 58
            0
            Free wind (ALEXANDER)
            My teacher on strength of materials said approximately the same: "God knows strength of materials at 5, I am at 4 with a minus. God forbid that you know the strength of materials at 3. Even if you know the strength of materials at 3 with a minus, you will get an excellent mark." God, with what gratitude, I now remember my teachers at school and teachers at the institute. Please do not think that I am bragging. To my first teacher, I went to the cemetery with flowers. And to the teacher on "strength" too. I do not know, Whether you understand me correctly or not, I don't like it when people are divided by nationality. My first teacher was Jewish, the teacher of "strength" was Ukrainian, my first mentor was Armenian. I can't say anything bad about them. His constant phrase: Ada, you can't get a wire into the terminal block, uh. How are you going to get into a girl's pussy, uh? " I have not relieved the tension and am delving into the dashboard - the cuff is provided! "Hell, you'll die once, uh. There won't be another time, uh."
        2. Revolver
          Revolver 6 June 2021 03: 10
          0
          Quote: Bumblebee_3
          Can't tell the computer: I don't understand here, can you explain to me? "

          There are a lot of resources and forums on the Internet where there are already ready-made answers to sooooo many questions. And if the question is so rare, then there are forums that will be happy to answer. You just need to be willing and able to search.
          1. Bumblebee_3
            Bumblebee_3 6 June 2021 18: 27
            0
            Nagant (Revolver of the Nagant system of the sample of 1895)
            But you don’t have to tell me that. Not everyone answers, and sometimes they will call it a teapot, then a victim of the exam. They will offer to lay the wires in the form of a sinusoid. Sitting at the computer all day looking for the information you need is also not the case. Now, if you are so smart, explain to me what VAT is? Who introduced it and why such a percentage. And I will talk with you on this topic.
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    3. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 5 June 2021 20: 25
      +4
      Quote: knn54
      Everyone speaks correctly, but no action.

      Why not? Do not remember, not so long ago, one very respected, completely unsinkable, state bureaucrat said in his circle that the inhabitants did not need education. Well, there is to read, write, count a little and good. For helluva lot of smart, it is very difficult to manage. So we observe the actions tied to these words. yes
      And pandemics and other horrors are just a good moment to start action. For who, but children to isolate, on whom the sore does not actually act ... Only with the aim of starting weaning from normal education. In principle, I do not observe any other adequate reasons.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 5 June 2021 21: 53
        +1
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        ... Only with the aim of starting weaning from normal education. In principle, I do not observe any other adequate reasons.

        Exactly .. they need a herd ... Gref does not hesitate to talk about it ..
        1. Lannan Shi
          Lannan Shi 5 June 2021 23: 15
          +3
          Quote: Svarog
          Gref does not hesitate to talk about it ..

          Why should he be shy? To steer dull, but executive is a normal desire for bureaucrats. But when the citizens of the country, foaming at the mouth, defend the right of their children / grandchildren to become the very dumb and executive, this is already sad.
      2. Revolver
        Revolver 6 June 2021 03: 14
        +1
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        Do not remember, not so long ago, one very respected, completely unsinkable, state bureaucrat said in his circle that the inhabitants did not need education. Well, there is to read, write, count little by little and good.

        Was it not Adolf Aloizovich in 1941 about how to deal with the Russians? He also said something about "medicine is only basic, and no obstetrics."
    4. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 5 June 2021 20: 40
      -1
      Quote: knn54
      Children are made into obedient OBJECTED (digitized) individuals.

      They grow up silly. without a broad outlook ... I recently talked with a graduate of the Higher School of Economics .. I started talking about literature ... The future star of the economy did not know Kuprin, Karamzin, Saltykov Shchedrin ... I heard something about Leo Tolstoy ... in general, everything is in this vein .. I read a book like Harry Potter, Gone with the Wind and some other crap .... It's not about books. We are talking about a model of behavior not gleaned from the Russian classics ... Sad, grayish, mediocre ... many elite kids look compared to the solid C-grade students of the Soviet era ...
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 5 June 2021 21: 57
        0
        Quote: 30 vis
        ... Sad, grayish, mediocre ... many elite kids look compared to the solid C-grade students of the Soviet era ...

        Yuri, so you kind of drowned for this power? Or have you seen the light?
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 6 June 2021 07: 05
          -3
          Quote: Svarog
          Yuri, so you kind of drowned for this power? Or have you seen the light?

          I do not heat. Stoves are heated. I support this power because I have something to compare with. I lived under the svidoukrovlast. 23, 5 years old. You are a nice person got drunk ...
      2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 5 June 2021 22: 54
        -3
        Quote: 30 vis
        did not know Kuprin, Karamzin, Saltykov Shchedrin ..

        Well, yes ... plus Fedor Mikhalych - and all this humanistic noir is enough to kill an idealist embryo in oneself and plunge into depressions))))
        Let him already read his Potter and specialized literature, since she is so-called. economist. Why would she want the jungle of soul evolution from Neanderthal to Raskolnikov? We live in the era of wikipedia erudition with its instant ready-made answers to everything. And it is impossible to change it. The time of accumulative knowledge has passed. Any pimply pubertal with a smartphone is now an encyclopedist. laughing
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 6 June 2021 07: 09
          0
          Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          The time of accumulative knowledge has passed. Any pimply pubertal with a smartphone is now an encyclopedist.

          This is the trouble of the present time ... If you find yourself this pimple without the Internet and that's it. Hysterics, panic, and then just dies ... Okay. how he will not know anything ...
    5. Clear
      Clear 5 June 2021 21: 14
      +5
      After watching Besogon, I would like this 12-year-old boy, who wants to fight for Hitler, to meet his "teacher", in a dark alley, the Minister of Digital Development, Communications and Mass Media of Russia Maksud Shadayev, and the latter would understand whom he raised with his Tik-Tok ...
      1. out of habit
        out of habit 6 June 2021 00: 17
        +2
        I think the boy will thank the minister.
        1. Clear
          Clear 6 June 2021 13: 51
          +3
          Quote: out of habit
          I think the boy will thank the minister.

          This boy will definitely thank you. It is already 99% cut off. They will explain everything to him in another place, straightening the pro-fascist brains. Here, just the point is in the minister.
    6. Svarog
      Svarog 5 June 2021 21: 45
      -1
      Quote: knn54
      Decisions are taken by PARASITES, I can't find another decent name.

      This is you very softly .. tolerant .. this is the world capitalist trend .. you need a herd, no brains .. submissive and stupid, the rest to the scrap ..
    7. RealPilot
      RealPilot 5 June 2021 23: 30
      +2
      I agree that it is impossible to replace a school and a university with an exclusively remote one.

      But there are benefits from digital tools in education. I am a teacher, spent less than 2 semesters online. I can judge this ... Yes, discipline is important for schoolchildren, they get tired and easily lose concentration, but I work with students who, for the most part, behaved responsibly.
      And students do not lose their individuality, do not become "digitalized robots". AND, in addition to basic full-time education, additional online courses can expand the opportunities for students.

      Tests are useful, where the computer checks the correctness of the answers and allows you to work on the errors. There are excellent video tutorials with good teachers in a range of subjects (physics, chemistry, electronics, drawing, history ...).
      You can, if you wish, learn languages. I've studied Chinese, used both mobile applications, and was remotely in the group! Despite the fact that after that he went online already as a teacher to students in his subject, through the same Zoom.

      Do not scold online. Like any tool, digital educational tools are useful in their niche. In addition to classical education.
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 5 June 2021 18: 48
    +7
    School without teacher and student without school: Nikita Mikhalkov on reforms and digitalization of the education system
    ... If you cook the button presses, consumers of services, then ... then, it will be sour for everyone!
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 5 June 2021 19: 35
      +6
      hi good evening, Victor! First they removed ideology, from life, then upbringing from school, now they want to remove the school itself ... there is a tablet ...
      Most of the Soviet material inheritance has been devoured, now the liberals are trying to eat away the social legacy of socialism. The retirement age was swallowed and not noticed. Medicine, education and everything else ... to look for something else.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 5 June 2021 20: 17
        +5
        Greetings Dmitry soldier
        Blame everything on the liberals ... pf-e! There is more serious, more greedy, more terrible, guys!
        So they cut it, WHAT THEY NEED!
        There is a lot of dregs around, although everything is very clear who and why this dregs.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 6 June 2021 04: 16
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          ..... There is a lot of dregs around, although everything is very clear who and why this dregs.
          Of course it's clear, Victor! One has only to look at the FACE!
          Face of Alpha-bvnka, Face of Sber negative sad who were elected by these persons. Pf-eeee
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 June 2021 09: 28
            +1
            Everything in one piggy bank, manipulation of public consciousness ... a person, a citizen, alone will not be able to resist this! And unite, to resist all this, we are nowhere and in any way! How our society fell into lethargy.
            Trouble !!!
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 6 June 2021 10: 39
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              ...... they CAN'T resist it alone! And unite, to resist all this, we are nowhere and in any way! How our society fell into lethargy.
              Trouble !!! .........

              This is --- comparable to a forbidden trick. A blow to children, today and tomorrow. And how many such blows have already been made! Impression --- so that, without having time to comprehend 1 blow, to inflict the next.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 6 June 2021 11: 29
                +1
                Dmitry, this is a deliberate impact on our future !!! Moreover, this is a global trend.
                Miro, now, rich men rule, this must be clearly understood and .... but what must be done, how to counteract, it’s not even a question, everything has long been described in textbooks !!! The only problem is that the bulk, who are being led somewhere there, do not want to read, learn and act in their own interests.
                Laziness, nonsense, lethargy, whatever you call it, it still turns out to be a PROBLEM!
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 6 June 2021 12: 07
                  +1
                  ........ purposeful impact on our future ........

                  The goal of the final actions is the destruction of humanity, its main part, except for the servants. As a result of such distant learning, people will be completely atomized without the slightest hint of the possibility of collective activity, (those very associations) approximately like modern octopuses and bears --- intelligent, but not collective.
                  A line of rejection of self-identification is being drawn. Ethnic, religious, class, gender, and then species (human)! This is very well described by Stanislav Lem in his novel "The Futurological Congress", and Clifford Simak in one of his novels. But most of all this was paid attention to the great and terrible Robert Sheckley.
                2. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 6 June 2021 12: 12
                  +1
                  ..... how to proceed ....
                  the comment escaped, of course you are right, just unite, because it is with this skill that the struggle is going on. Recall Chubais's words about the destruction of Soviet enterprises. am And now they are in a hurry.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 6 June 2021 12: 19
                    +1
                    Each, individually, considers himself Napoleon! And how we get together, the crowd is a crowd, if you don't take a worse epithet.
                    That is our reality.
                    1. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 6 June 2021 14: 57
                      +1
                      ..... crowd crowd .....
                      simple and rude emotions, over which one does not need to think, quickly spread in the crowd, and now it sweeps away everything in its path.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 6 June 2021 16: 25
                        +1
                        Oh, not the fact that the crowd is ready to sweep away everything and everything, and what's the point, from the destruction of ANYONE!
                        Also, a herd of rams, without a leader, usually a goat, is just a herd.
                        The most important thing is why people gather, unite. What goals and objectives do they want to achieve.
                      2. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 6 June 2021 16: 31
                        +1
                        The crowds that have gathered in different places over the past few years have been united precisely by the desire for destruction, or protest. Just a random gathering of people ---- the last year has become impossible due to kavid
  3. Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi 5 June 2021 20: 28
    +5
    Quote: rocket757
    then ... then, it will be sour for everyone!

    Keyword then... There is a feeling that the majority, or all those in power, in principle, are not interested in what will happen next, in twenty years. The main thing is that they have enough for their life. yes
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 5 June 2021 20: 30
      +5
      In the foreseeable future, it will not be better .... the current, upper, everything suits.
      1. Cat Kuzya
        Cat Kuzya 5 June 2021 21: 27
        +6
        And that's all. Lenin said that it is the school that, in addition to the presentation of knowledge, also educates a person, lays the foundations of state consciousness in him. Makarenko said that when there is no school, there is no educational process for preparing a person, then they begin to educate him in shop windows. The Soviet classical school has been completely destroyed, and destroyed on purpose, nothing good has been taken from foreign schools, if you really do not like the Soviet school, why not take, for example, its Japanese model? And since the school has been destroyed, the purposeful national education has been destroyed, then inevitably the collapse of the entire state as a national one will inevitably follow, to consumers, no matter where to consume and who to consume, as long as this consumption is more accessible. "educational reform". A digital concentration camp does not need individuals and patriots, a digital concentration camp needs controlled units.
        1. YOU
          YOU 5 June 2021 22: 21
          +2
          Everything matters here. Digital parenting does not give a person the ability to think. Reading books, a person shows imagination. He has associations, then this is discussed with the teacher in the lesson. They showed a movie on the computer, watched it and forgot. The brain does not work, everyone showed him that he remembered something, that he didn’t. And everything else is from the evil one. Savings on teachers, the ability to make money on computers. In the Soviet Union, textbooks were passed from one student to the next for several years. And I think the tablets will be changed every 2-3 years, that's where you can make money. And about the woman-EGE, it's all noodles about that it evens the odds. Take a look at our medical institutes now. There, even after graduating in Russian, they hardly speak, it is better not to ask about writers at all, but in the certificate, everyone has the highest score. And of course, education should be not only in school but also in the family. If a child hears every day at home the statements of a father or mother of an "effective manager", he sees his attitude to life. He knows that by hook or by crook he will be shoved into a warm place. Not to mention if there is a family business. And in general, I would not even want my grandchildren to study with such in the same school, not to mention the class. Although earlier in the Soviet Union there were enough thugs.
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 5 June 2021 21: 59
        +3
        Quote: rocket757
        In the foreseeable future, it will not be better .... the current, upper, everything suits.

        Unfortunately.. hi great regret ..
    2. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 5 June 2021 23: 06
      -1
      Quote: Lannan Shi
      ... There is a feeling that the majority, or all those in power, in principle, are not interested in what will happen next, in twenty years. The main thing is that they have enough for their lifetime.

      I have a feeling that Putin is generally under some gypsy hypnosis, like the whole society in the Russian Federation.
      A citizen of the Russian Federation is captured in a supposedly allied country without trial or investigation, Putin gives out 500 million to that country, and it seems like everything should be so. What is the country's chief Nikulin thinking about?
      1. Lannan Shi
        Lannan Shi 5 June 2021 23: 17
        +5
        Quote: saturn.mmm
        What is the country's chief Nikulin thinking about?

        About stability. yes
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 6 June 2021 09: 15
          +1
          The most stable situation ... in the cemetery, and even then until the moment when the arrogant grave-diggers come there!
          As a person, I want stability / peace, but as a sane person, I understand that in a society where many of the ruling ones are busy not with concern for state interests, but with personal interests !!! One can not even dream of stability, especially in the situation around our state !!!
          Oh yes, dad ... well, that's the way he is, an appendix to that brotherly people of Belarus.
        2. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 6 June 2021 14: 49
          0
          Quote: Lannan Shi
          About stability.

          I don’t understand anything.
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 6 June 2021 08: 57
        +1
        Quote: saturn.mmm
        A citizen of the Russian Federation is captured in a supposedly union country without trial or investigation,

        Detained for .... and here the options and each of them are LEGAL and are common international practice. Okay, the bike is not my favorite character, but in this case, what is wrong, where is the violation of the law and other things, other things.
        Interestingly, when Butina and others were captured / detained in the United States, you were also so indignant, or was there ANOTHER there?
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 6 June 2021 15: 05
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          A citizen of the Russian Federation is captured in a supposedly union country without trial or investigation,

          Detained for .... and here the options and each of them are LEGAL and are common international practice. Okay, the bike is not my favorite character, but in this case, what's wrong, where is the violation of the law and other things, ......
          And nothing that the data of families, children of the police published? She lived in Belarus, always, fought against the regime in a union country, studied at a European university, .....
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 June 2021 16: 28
            +1
            Where she was taught, that's okay, BUT, she carried out illegal actions where she was not called in any way and never.
            Let him be responsible for his actions according to the law;
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 6 June 2021 16: 38
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              ..... Let him be responsible for his actions according to the law, but they don't work here.
              I didn't think about Russia at all, in my opinion
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 6 June 2021 17: 29
                +1
                Who raised her like that or didn't raise her at all ...
                now she is responsible for what she did.
    3. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 6 June 2021 04: 08
      +2
      Quote: Lannan Shi
      ......Keyword then... There is a feeling that the majority, or all those in power, in principle, are not interested in what will happen next, in twenty years. ....... yes
      Yes, no, that's exactly the same result and everything is brought - a decrease in development opportunities for future generations. For example, a project in one of the Scandinavian countries is an education project where the same primary school education is increased by several years, i.e. more slowly
  4. Svarog
    Svarog 5 June 2021 21: 58
    +5
    Quote: rocket757
    School without teacher and student without school: Nikita Mikhalkov on reforms and digitalization of the education system
    ... If you cook the button presses, consumers of services, then ... then, it will be sour for everyone!

    Sour? yes they will cut everyone out .. but the scalpel will be so sharp that the patient will not smell anything ..
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 6 June 2021 09: 06
      +2
      If you think about it .... which is more dangerous, physical loss or loss of not physical, but as they are called, in general, moral plan, loss of identity, feeling like a person, a member of society ???
      Losses of neither one nor the other, do not bring anything good, but what is fatal for a person, for society as a whole?
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 6 June 2021 12: 23
        +2
        Quote: rocket757
        Losses of neither one nor the other, do not bring anything good, but what is fatal for a person, for society as a whole?

        There is no man, there is nothing. There is a person, everything is possible.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 6 June 2021 13: 29
          +2
          EVERYTHING, this is generally understandable. It depends on the state of society which of everything possible will be considered correct and which is unacceptable.
          Society cannot put up with the unacceptable, it should not.
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 6 June 2021 15: 11
            +2
            I wonder how to deal with the fact that Sberbank now has such a face? The guy in the dress? There is a ban on propaganda. Isn't this propaganda? Some bloggers bring up the topic.
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 6 June 2021 16: 29
              +1
              I have not seen, I can not say anything.
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 6 June 2021 16: 46
                +1
                Quote: rocket757
                I have not seen, I can not say anything.
                both Shakhnazarov and Solovyov have stories from the last
  • Fsgt
    Fsgt 5 June 2021 19: 03
    0
    Mikhalkov is still a sculptor, after his "citadel" and "anticipation" I do not perceive him in any form.
  • Aleksandre
    Aleksandre 5 June 2021 19: 17
    +3
    Edrit, again twenty-five ... Well, it has already been discussed many times, and psychologists will not let you lie that the problem is not in the learning process (although it is more convenient to do it in a team, competition has not yet been canceled), but in the fact that school age is important for socialization , and sitting at home with mom and dad is difficult to do.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 5 June 2021 19: 27
      +3
      Excellent scum grows from the "golden youth". Already from the cradle, they absorbed permissiveness, all-profitability, and so on.
      And they study in demonstration schools, with exemplary teachers, excellent teaching materials, and so on.
      1. Aleksandre
        Aleksandre 5 June 2021 19: 35
        +2
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Excellent scum grows from the "golden youth".

        In fact, excellent scum are obtained from the pupils of the most creepy schools, as well as by no means all the so-called "golden youth" scum. Someone, after all, learns, taking advantage of the opportunity and the opportunities provided. Although, of course, the media rarely write about such people, there is no hype.
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 5 June 2021 19: 34
      +1
      Quote: Aleksandre
      Well, it has already been discussed many times, and psychologists will not let you lie that the problem is not in the learning process

      I do not know about which psychologists (I think that they are not very smart, smart ones will not say such a bird) you speak, but Sergey Kapitsa's opinion is certainly more authoritative for me
      Sergey KAPITSA
      Doctor of Physical and Mathematical Sciences, Professor, President of the Eurasian Physical Society, member of the European Academy of Sciences:
      (from an interview with the newspaper "Argumenty i Fakty")

      - I have long proposed to change the criteria for admission to higher educational institutions. No exams are required - let the applicant write a five-page essay explaining why he wants to enter a particular faculty. The ability to correctly express one's thoughts, the essence of the problem demonstrates the intellectual baggage of a person, the level of his culture, the degree of development of consciousness.

      And the Unified State Exam, which is used today, cannot give an objective picture of a student's knowledge. It is built only on knowledge or ignorance of facts. But the facts are far from everything! Does the Volga flow into the Caspian Sea? The answer to this question deserves not a tick in the corresponding box, but a separate serious conversation. Because millions of years ago the Volga did not flow into the Caspian, but into the Sea of ​​Azov, the geography of the Earth was different. And the question from a textbook turns into an interesting problem. To solve it, it is precisely the understanding that is required, which is impossible to achieve without reading and education.
      1. Aleksandre
        Aleksandre 5 June 2021 19: 37
        +1
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        I do not know about which psychologists (I think that they are not very smart, smart ones will not say such a bird) you speak, but Sergey Kapitsa's opinion is certainly more authoritative for me

        All this is of course great, but what does it have to do with the question of "points or distance"?
    3. Egoza
      Egoza 5 June 2021 21: 50
      +1
      Quote: Aleksandre
      sitting at home with dad-mom it is difficult to do this.

      This is if the parents are at home, and if the child himself with the tablet and the teacher sends him SMS, what task to do !!!!!
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 5 June 2021 22: 42
        0
        If mom and dad helped me, then only in the first grade. I did my homework myself. Parents checked the very fact - did it or not.
      2. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 6 June 2021 15: 19
        0
        I think in this ---- distantly if, in case, vision deteriorates greatly, in addition, the lack of fine motor skills as a result of the lack of writing with a pen --- will bring its negative results ...
        And some parents will not be able to provide the necessary assistance. ..... then nothing at all might work.
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: Aleksandre
        sitting at home with dad-mom it is difficult to do this.

        This is if the parents are at home, and if the child himself with the tablet and the teacher sends him SMS, what task to do !!!!!
  • DrRey
    DrRey 5 June 2021 19: 20
    +8
    I absolutely disagree with Mr. Astakhov that there is no upbringing at school. As a teacher, I constantly convey to the students what is good and what is bad. The school constantly hosts a huge number of educational activities, etc. But!!! A teacher for students is a stranger once, a person who makes them leave the comfort zone is two, a person who is at a different social level is three. If the family has the same moral, ethical and ethical attitudes, then the teacher can get hurt like a cake, he will not change anything. Society considers teachers to be "inferior" - what kind of upbringing can be from them? "They don't know life, they get pennies, etc." - this is what the overwhelming majority of parents say about teachers. "Why do you need this little child this chemistry, mathematics, biology - insert what you need - it will not be useful in life." What kind of upbringing can be from this person? If our "stars", officials and deputies flaunt through one - I was a bully and a poor student at school, but what I have become. What kind of upbringing can be if the teacher is forced to take 2 rates in order to survive, and in classes of 36-38 students? For 45 minutes of a lesson, the average time per one tends to a minute. It is difficult to teach here, what kind of education? And all the same, teachers try - they have no choice. And parents who have one, maximum two children are more of a rarity, and they are also unhappy that, if you see their children, they also need to be brought up - "we are working!" And the teachers seem to be playing around with pears. In this regard, the Chinese innovation according to the social rating should be implemented in Russia - at once everyone will become "white and fluffy"
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 5 June 2021 19: 41
      +1
      Quote: DrRey
      and in classes of 36-38 students? For 45 minutes of a lesson, the average time per one tends to a minute

      you will be surprised but it was like that in the Soviet Union and at the same time taught somehow
      1. DrRey
        DrRey 5 June 2021 20: 25
        +9
        I will not be surprised, I studied in the USSR, and I remember on August 19, 1991, Swan Lake through both channels, but in the Union there was one understanding of the value of education among the whole people and the director could call any boss at work and tell him that his subordinate was not coping with education child and at home, this child was looking for the fifth corner for a long time, because dad flew in so that mom did not grieve. Therefore, under the Union, children studied, since the Union was building a bright future and it needed smart builders of communism, and now you have to be not smart, but in hype. “I’ll be a blogger, you don’t need to study for this, there’s a 15-year-old kid who has 2 million subscribers, he’s turning around with llamas, and you tell me about your math.
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 5 June 2021 21: 09
        +4
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        you will be surprised but it was like that in the Soviet Union and at the same time taught somehow

        In the Union and the extended program was, with her teacher.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 5 June 2021 19: 38
    +3
    Most likely, Nikita Sergeevich Mikhalkov has more information about the problem he is discussing than any of the site users who accidentally opened the page. What can I say - a person with a school experience half a century ago? My only indulgence is my son, a teacher at school and the experience of personal communication with students who come across from time to time on the street.
    Sorry, but the school should be in the form in which it has existed for many decades. Communication between a student and a teacher and peers is not a substitute for distance learning lessons.
    Children, whose communication takes place through various gadgets and technical means, will not be able to grow up to be real people. They will take selfies or reports of human tragedies only to draw attention to themselves. They will not lend a helping hand, because in this hand there will be a selfie stick (monopod).
    I agree with some users that:
    Quote: knn54
    Children are made into obedient OBJECTED (digitized) individuals.

    Quote: rocket757
    If you cook the button presses, consumers of services, then ... then, it will be sour for everyone!

    hi
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 5 June 2021 19: 53
    0
    * As a child, we were frightened by Baba Yaga, who was replaced by Baba-Unified State Exam. *
    A strange story.
    For ten years now, everyone has been reporting the need to abolish such a system.
    What is characteristic is that it does not go on beseechingly.
    How can this be?
    Does the President know at all? Was he notified of the wishes of the general population?
    Or again empty-handedness. About everything and about nothing gentlemen commentators?
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 5 June 2021 22: 01
      +2
      Quote: Benzorez
      Does the President know at all?

      He is not within the limits .. he is not reported about jambs .. only about "breakthroughs" ..
      Do you know why? Because he is not interested ...
  • sabakina
    sabakina 5 June 2021 20: 18
    0
    I looked. I don't even know what to say ... Once again, watch the film "Meet me at the fountain" or something ..
  • Gardener91
    Gardener91 5 June 2021 20: 52
    +2
    The system of educational upbringing itself has been completely killed. Teach to think, formulate thought, generalize facts and draw conclusions. Unfortunately, there is none of this. But the Soviet education system remained in Finland, rightfully occupying one of the first places in the world.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 5 June 2021 20: 56
    +3
    Mathematics was a headache and a sickening discipline for me until Evgeny Alexandrovich came to us in the eighth grade. Over a year, over a year, Karl, he managed to change my attitude to the subject. So much so that after school I easily passed it with excellent marks both in writing and orally to a technical university and later to a military school. Practically without much separate preparation for exams. You can't go to school without teachers like mine. Although without people like my granddaughter, the school would have done well. laughing
  • Evil troll
    Evil troll 5 June 2021 21: 24
    +1
    Mikhalkov first shoots a movie about a German ass in a Junkers and a trip with sticks to the citadel, and then sticks his mustache into upbringing and education. Sipisialist in all matters.
  • sgapich
    sgapich 5 June 2021 22: 59
    +1
    My opinion. Of our modern military films over the past ten years (of course, from those that I watched), they have sunk into the soul and hit some strings, perhaps: "Panfilov's 28", "We are from the future" and "Tourist".
  • Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 6 June 2021 01: 36
    0
    You can say they ripped off the tongue. I also wanted to post this program. As it all at once and vividly turned out, this time.
  • Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 6 June 2021 01: 43
    +1
    Mikhalkov? .. Mikhalkov ... And, is this that sleek gentleman who became famous for his flashing lights? Well, this is not my way - I am a worker, and he is a master.
  • Revolver
    Revolver 6 June 2021 02: 44
    -1
    I have two children. Both have been distance learning since the beginning of the epidemic.
    The eldest, who until then rarely, but grabbed a four (B), and this was a reason for crying and tragedy, finished the semester for all fives (A +).
    The youngest, who used to have triples (C), now also mostly has fives, albeit with an admixture of fours.
    In my opinion, distance learning was only beneficial for them, because they could concentrate on their studies and not be distracted by interpersonal relationships in the classroom.
    But these are mine. Someone, perhaps, interpersonal relationships, on the contrary, give strength to study, and someone, due to not being in classes, simply clogs the device for study. And there are those who have one computer in the family for three children, and they have to go to the library to use public computers there (there was about them in the newspaper), but this is not in our village with a predominance of the middle class, but in the city across the river with a predominance of racial minorities.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 6 June 2021 05: 42
    0
    We are running at full speed after America. It was there that the praise of superheroes, superman appeared. If on TV they all the time praise and call either a king or a queen, then why not some person call himself a god. We all the time jump out of our pants, glorifying some person. This is not how it worked. so, when there was no Internet. Nowadays it is often impossible to talk to a teenager. He is absorbed in the phone. And each according to his interest. It's easier for me to communicate with my great-granddaughter than with my granddaughter. Sasha is not yet defeated by numbers. She has lively eyes, an inquisitive mind. Test training leads to one-name options. And there is no desire to look for these options myself.
  • 1536
    1536 7 June 2021 12: 11
    0
    In Soviet times, it was said that the army was a "slice of Soviet society," all citizens serve in it, regardless of their position in society, material condition and thinking abilities, who have no contraindications for health and who have reached the age of 18. School in those days formed the Soviet society, including the army, as its integral part. Therefore, if you did not know the exact dates of the beginning and end of the Battle of Stalingrad, it would hardly have been possible to advance in the service and, even more so, in the public line. This already applied not only to service in the Soviet Army, but also to "civilian". By the way, some gaps in school education and upbringing were corrected in the Soviet Army, when former graduates got there on conscription and did not know or understand something.
    Times change and we change with them - says ancient wisdom. The society in which we live has changed. The socialist system was destroyed. Moreover, with the connivance, if not the direct participation of many, who are still being listened to in society today. They caught themselves, realized what they had done then? Perhaps, if you follow the wisdom of the ancients. But then it is still necessary to make sure that people need knowledge of the uninterrupted history of Russia, i.e. history that does not depend on the coming to power of one or another ruler or system. Land in Russia is one for everyone, regardless of who owns it. And our people will not have another. In Soviet times, in the humanitarian universities they said that history was an ideological science, the ideology then was the ideology of the CPSU, based on the Marxist-Leninist doctrine of society and economics. In modern Russia, ideology as such does not exist. Does this mean that history does not exist the same? Not! It turned out that the history of Russia exists independently of ideology. And here it turned out that there was no teaching methodology. And the former ideologists are unable to create it for various reasons, but mainly because of the lack of need in society and its ruling circles. So we wander, as they say, without a king in our head.
    I expressed my opinion with the firm conviction that history, along with mathematics, puts your mind in order if you study it.
  • Shadow041
    Shadow041 7 June 2021 16: 16
    0
    Here you can argue for a long time, but there is a crisis and this systemic crisis, which arose from the fact that people are in power who regard the Russian Federation exclusively as a cash cow, from which funds can be taken abroad, where there are already real estate and bank accounts and civilism and the children have been living there for a long time. Such people are simply not interested in putting things in order in the Russian Federation. And, of course, the level of the specialists themselves, who received their education in the times of Yeltsin and Gorbachev, which were not the best for educational institutions, also makes itself felt. You can often meet a person who treats his work formally, a working day has passed and thank God, but he does not care about the result of his work ... I know such doctors and teachers and officials ...