"The future of the enterprise is in jeopardy": On the situation with the only tank plant in the United States

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Limsky army tank plant (LATP) is currently the only plant in the United States that produces tanks. Senator Sherrod Brown recently expressed concern about his future: budget cuts on the Abrams main battle tank program could negatively affect the future of American tank building.

History tank factory in Lima, Ohio began in the 1940s, at the height of World War II. In November 1942, a subsidiary of GM United Motors Services took over the management of the plant under construction. During the war, the plant produced tanks that were sent to the European theater of operations.



After the war, for a long time, the territory of the plant was used for storing ammunition and storing tanks, but in 1980 the plant began to produce Abrams tanks. The company was originally run by the Chrysler Corporation, but in 1982 it sold its Defense subsidiary to General Dynamics.

In June 2004, the plant was renamed Joint Systems Manufacturing Center (JSMC). It produces tanks for the US Army and Marine Corps, and the War Department remains one of the key lobbyists for preserving the plant. Although now the need for the US Army for new Abrams tanks has been reduced to a minimum, the military is against the decommissioning of the plant.

One of the main arguments is the high costs for decommissioning the plant and especially for restoring the production cycle in the future, when the American army will again need a large number of new tanks. Thus, the decommissioning of the enterprise is estimated at $ 380 million, and the resumption of production - at least $ 1,3 billion.

As Senator Brown notes, at one time Donald Trump tried to close the tank factory, but he was defended. Now the unpleasant line for the plant was continued by the new president Joe Biden. The defense budget for 2022, which, however, has not yet entered into force, provides for a reduction in funding for tank building by $ 400 million. However, Brown is convinced that the tank factory in Lima will be fine.

In turn, US Senator Rob Portman, on the contrary, said that it was Donald Trump who at one time increased the plant's budget. And these words are similar to the truth, since Trump has always been interested in developing industry in the United States and providing jobs in American enterprises.

In any case, the draft budget proposed by the Biden administration will be vigorously discussed in the US Congress. The situation at the only tank plant in the country, the future of which, as stated, was in jeopardy, will also become a subject of discussion. Some senators may come up with a proposal not to cut funding for the tank-building enterprise. Moreover, its existence and the receipt of stable orders from the military department provides jobs for the inhabitants of Lima in Ohio. Lima Mayor David Berger stressed that the plant employs more than 900 people, and about 30 tanks roll off the assembly line every month.
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  1. +3
    2 June 2021 14: 04
    Buying less debt from the Federal Reserve on the foreign market? Build a pyramid scheme yourself and yourself. And it won't be that much !!!
    1. +3
      2 June 2021 14: 27
      So they built it already. Bitcoin based. What is not a pyramid.
      1. +8
        2 June 2021 14: 29
        Still too small, it is not for nothing that China has banned all these coins on its territory.
        1. -4
          2 June 2021 14: 34
          Well, as banned and allowed. Not the first time already.
          1. +4
            3 June 2021 10: 09
            May God grant health to US officials and politicians who make such important and necessary decisions for democracy - the closure of factories and industries.
            Biden has a long life, if only he gave instructions to release conversion goods at the remaining production facilities of military equipment and weapons, otherwise in the United States, frypots and cutlery are becoming more expensive, and toilet paper made of composite materials will be sold out with a bang.
            Yes, and it's time to introduce publicity. To withdraw troops from Germany and to the east - why? The economy must be economical!
        2. +2
          4 June 2021 15: 43
          Only first created about 60% of the cryptocurrency.
      2. -1
        5 June 2021 09: 54
        Confused something with the data. There is not and cannot be at present the rate of production of 30 tanks per month. Either a year, or we are talking about a major overhaul
  2. +13
    2 June 2021 14: 07
    I will not be upset if this enterprise stops.
    But remembering how in World War II the Americans quickly retrained car factories into the tank industry ... I think they will not be very scared either.
    1. -3
      2 June 2021 14: 11
      I don't think they'll be very scared either.

      Then they had the belief that Zionism would lead them to a brighter future, but now they have the realization that it led them somewhere in the wrong place, to homosexuality and tolerance.
    2. +9
      2 June 2021 14: 15
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      But remembering how in World War II the Americans quickly retrained car factories into the tank industry ...

      There is now one problem with this - production facilities are mostly taken out of the United States.
      Pure sur will be: the Ford plant in China assembles tanks for the American army fighting the PLA. smile
      1. +5
        2 June 2021 14: 32
        8 million cars were produced in the US in 822, compared to 2020 million in Russia in the same year
        1. +4
          2 June 2021 19: 22
          So what? Their strategic and main mode of transport has always been automobile, we have railway. Hence the production capacity.
  3. +8
    2 June 2021 14: 09
    the plant employs more than 900 people, and about 30 tanks roll off the assembly line every month
    Interesting layout and production efficiency.
    1. +13
      2 June 2021 14: 17
      Maybe I'm wrong, but this plant is more of a repair type. Abrams are no longer produced from scratch (in total, somewhere around 13000 were produced), but only modernized. In principle, performance is on par.
      1. +3
        2 June 2021 14: 26
        "The future of the enterprise is at stake"
        If the plant closes and all Abrashi burns down, then I will not pay the price!
        1. +3
          2 June 2021 15: 17
          If you think about it, then they have a situation of at least four letters. Tanks are no longer produced, F-22 too, F-35, despite 500+ pieces, is still not ice, B-52 is more alive than all living things, zumwalts and littoral ones are practically withdrawn, the ability to produce new nuclear charges is questionable, a new ICBM will be created when ... It turns out that the chance that fell to them in the 90s they slept with song and dances.
          1. +10
            2 June 2021 21: 17
            And if you think more deeply, then the Americans abruptly change
            generations of military equipment.
            Bomber R-21, next-generation NGAD fighter,
            jet drones Valkiria.
            A line of new tactical missiles for short (Precision Strike Missile) and medium range.
            The latter is a two-stage BR for 2500-4000 km.
            1. 0
              2 June 2021 22: 38
              All for the sake of mastering the budget :)
            2. +1
              3 June 2021 09: 07
              There is such a thing. Trying to find new directions. But the latest large-scale programs were also considered breakthrough. And ended with a "tick in the report" and not mass production. I'm talking about those where complete rearmament was announced, and as a result - single copies. In any other country, similar results (with comparable funding) would be regarded as a loss of competencies ...
              1. +3
                3 June 2021 10: 13
                What to do? Our world is very dynamic and very dangerous, unfortunately.
                If you stay with the old one, you will get stuck, as with the I-15 / I-16 and T-26 / BT.
                Who would have thought 15 years ago that China would hang over the whole world,
                as an economic skating rink and a military superpower?
                That Turkey will become a leader in the development and combat use of the unmanned
                technology?
                Americans take risks and change "swords and spears" on the go.
                1. 0
                  3 June 2021 10: 16
                  What to do?

                  But nothing. Let's see which of the outlined branches of development turns out to be a dead end and who "gets stuck" in full smile
            3. +1
              4 June 2021 04: 07
              And if you think more deeply, then the Americans abruptly change
              generations of military equipment.

              NGAD even when it will be, if at all, but for now a sharp return from the fifth generation of fighters to the fourth is visible.
              Valkiria? It sounds, like, cool, but firstly, little is known about it, and secondly, it was kind of created to interact with the fifth generation (F-22 and F-35), which they now want to abandon. Is it just me, or is it really a bit of a mess?
              The R-21 is, yes, a new generation (although xs in what exactly, and let him still show that he will not follow the path of the F-35), but no, this is not a replacement for the B-52.
              As for the missiles, it is also not entirely clear what exactly they are of the "new generation". The fact that instead of nuclear warheads they will have conventional ones, like since they are so high-precision ...? This is not even a replacement for Tomahawks, tk. they will be overland. But the basic conceptuality of the US Navy was kept on the Axes, they do not hear about the new generation, and the old axes become less and less scary every year.
              So the word is outlined not even from four letters, but from all five or six ;-)
              1. +2
                4 June 2021 10: 23
                "the fifth generation (F-22 and F-35), which they now want to abandon" ///
                ----
                You misunderstood.
                After 10 years, the F-22 will be written off due to old age. They will be replaced by NGAD.
                And the F-35 remains the main aircraft for another 20-30 years
                aviation of the United States. F-16 will be written off.
                Additional 144 F-15s are purchased to replace the old F-15 first
                issues.

                "after all, the basic conceptuality of the US Navy was kept on" Axes ", they do not hear about the new generation" ///
                ----
                New generation - stealth CD LRASM.
                And JASSM-ER


          2. -1
            5 June 2021 10: 41
            For, the Americans didn’t know anything about ... they were sleeping. It's just that, unlike the widespread point of view, they have no desire to rule the world, much less by military means.
      2. +3
        2 June 2021 15: 00
        the largest was in Detroit - compared with UVZ ......................................... .................................................. ........
    2. Alf
      +3
      2 June 2021 20: 52
      Quote: Vladimir61
      the plant employs more than 900 people, and about 30 tanks roll off the assembly line every month
      Interesting layout and production efficiency.

      It will be especially interesting to find out the number of actual workers and the number of managers, and then show this ratio to our "effective managers", who have seven with a spoon for one with a bipod.
  4. +6
    2 June 2021 14: 10
    Well, let's start with the fact that since 2001, the plant has not produced this tanks, as it were)))
    1. +3
      2 June 2021 14: 14
      Yes, he seems to be repairing now ...
    2. +5
      2 June 2021 14: 43
      I heard a cry about the loss of this plant 10-15 years ago, just the Americans tried to shove a thousand tanks off Greece for free in order to order new ones, but the Greeks turned out to be smarter and sent them with a gift.
  5. +3
    2 June 2021 14: 14
    Maybe they don't really need tanks. Imports, taking into account the price of Abrams, fell sharply, plus competition - whoever does not make tanks now. but if suddenly something goes "wrong", then the military will still be in the black -
    Thus, the decommissioning of the enterprise is estimated at $ 380 million, and the resumption of production - at least $ 1,3 billion.

    And in general, something is messed up in the article, a tank plant - 900 people, this is extremely small.
    1. Alf
      +2
      2 June 2021 20: 54
      Quote: maxim947
      tank plant - 900 people, this is extremely small.

      Tank repair, and these are two big differences.
  6. +2
    2 June 2021 14: 21
    And so it happened, 404 at least in something economically became similar to the owner.
    For those, the last tank first turned into a repair one, and then began to die, and for these the same ...
  7. +4
    2 June 2021 14: 25
    at one time, Donald Trump tried to close the tank factory, but he was defended. Now the unpleasant line for the plant was continued by the new president Joe Biden.

    Is Biden an agent of the Kremlin too?
    Where the world is heading!
  8. +9
    2 June 2021 14: 26
    The most important thing is that this repair plant produces tanks with a crew for four people, and before each shot the crew kneels before the loader! lol
    1. +1
      3 June 2021 01: 00
      Quote: tralflot1832
      The most important thing is that this repair plant produces tanks with a crew for four people, and before each shot the crew kneels before the loader! lol

      Do you think the Americans do not know how to do AZ? You're wrong.
      1. 0
        3 June 2021 09: 20
        The best automatic loader for Abrashka is a Negro, and where he can no longer lift a projectile and two Negroes do not fit, they put an AZ, a Sau for example.
  9. +3
    2 June 2021 14: 27
    -tank plant in Lima, Ohio began in the 1940s, in the HEAT of World War II.
    A large-scale war is urgently needed.
    And no Ukrainian "Oplots" and other vehicles from ZiM. For example, they will give the command to "bankrupt" .PO.
  10. +3
    2 June 2021 14: 40
    And when was the last time a new, truly modern tank was bought in the United States? The Americans cannot already make new tanks, only modernization, this is the limit. They did it urgently, and then grabbed the head, but it's too late, even in the United States, the budget is not rubbery to release unnecessary monsters.
    1. +2
      2 June 2021 15: 07
      Come on, who will modernize SEPv3? I think they will knock out an order for a couple of divisions for the modernization, and then you see, Egypt will get some improvements and the Saudis will be forced into the new KAZA sauce) they will say that you cannot cope with the Houthis without him wassat hi
      1. +2
        3 June 2021 08: 45
        Modernization is certainly good, but you can't steal a lot on it, you need to order tanks for a thousand. But this plant can no longer produce tanks, people fled, equipment is outdated and destroyed.
  11. -1
    2 June 2021 14: 59
    It's okay .. They'll ask for money from Ukraine. Ukraine- "will help".)))))
  12. mvg
    +5
    2 June 2021 15: 05
    As I understand it, the author, in his own style. I didn’t taste the topic at all. New Abrams are made only in Ebipta, in the USA they will only be modernized and reactivated from the reserve. How do the moderators, once again, miss the nonsense of Polonsky?
    1. Alf
      +2
      2 June 2021 20: 56
      Quote: mvg
      New Abrams are made only in Ebipta,

      And where did the Abrams come from in Egypt? Are there propulsion, gun or steel factories in Egypt? I will tactfully keep silent about the production of electronics ...
      1. mvg
        +1
        2 June 2021 21: 56
        Egypt, unlike the Russian Federation, has no sanctions. He can easily buy electronics, a licensed Rheinmetal 120 mm gun, which is armed with half the world, and an AGD1500. So is the rolled steel. What are the problems? Even "highly developed" Ukrainians buy steel from Pan, in Poland
        But on the other hand, they themselves cook the hulls, towers and collect everything in a heap. If I remember correctly, we have already collected 1200+ pieces. Priret, put the M883 German with their transmission. And the French MSA. There are minimal alterations, the Americans themselves thought to switch to a diesel engine.
        1. Alf
          0
          3 June 2021 19: 37
          Quote: mvg
          Egypt, unlike the Russian Federation, has no sanctions. He can easily buy electronics, a licensed Rheinmetal 120 mm gun, which is armed with half the world, and an AGD1500. So is the rolled steel. What are the problems? Even "highly developed" Ukrainians buy steel from Pan, in Poland
          But on the other hand, they themselves cook the hulls, towers and collect everything in a heap. If I remember correctly, we have already collected 1200+ pieces. Priret, put the M883 German with their transmission. And the French MSA. There are minimal alterations, the Americans themselves thought to switch to a diesel engine.

          "Buy" and "do it yourself" are completely different things. If my memory serves me, only the USSR, Germany, Britain made their own tanks.
          1. mvg
            +1
            4 June 2021 08: 26
            completely their tanks were made only by the USSR, Germany, Britain

            What about Italian Ariete, Japanese Type 10, Brazil? South Africa wheeled tank ... in the end the PRC? Is there much left of the T-62? Guns and engines are not supplied to the DPRK either. Ukraine, as I understand it, was included in the USSR
            PS: I, personally, don't care if a country, at hour "X" can afford to urgently "collect" or re-preserve 200-500 cars, then it "knows how" to do it. And more is not necessary, most likely it will not be needed. hi
            1. Alf
              +1
              4 June 2021 19: 24
              Quote: mvg
              A Italian Ariete, Japanese Type 10,

              You are right, I forgot about these two countries, they also have a full cycle production.
  13. Cat
    +3
    2 June 2021 15: 32
    At least one good news for today .. smile
  14. sen
    +3
    2 June 2021 16: 42
    The US relies on the Navy, Air Force and missiles. The Marines were stripped of their tanks. England is also cool about tanks. It is believed that tanks are targets, and the outcome of any war is decided in the air and at sea. Tanks - so, for cleaning. Hence the attitude towards the plant.
  15. +2
    2 June 2021 17: 02
    Good news. The worse the better, for world peace.
  16. Alf
    +2
    2 June 2021 20: 58
    because Trump has always been interested in developing industry in the United States and providing jobs in American enterprises.

    Trump was interested in the development of the American economy, but the true owners of America were not interested in this. The result is obvious ...
  17. 0
    3 June 2021 08: 33
    Who in their right mind needs America with its problems ?!
    This means that American Abrams are needed only for aggression.
    The rest of the countries have their own tanks for defense.
    There is only one way out - to vtyuhivat Abrams to limitrophes such as the Balts and Poles.
    And the plant in Ohio is destroyed at once, even Petrov and Boshirov will be enough (well, you remember what remains of Czech warehouses ..) bully

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