The Ministry of Defense has received another batch of Msta-S self-propelled artillery mounts

The Russian Defense Ministry has received a new batch of Msta-S self-propelled artillery mounts. The acceptance of self-propelled guns at the manufacturing plant was carried out by specialists from the military representation of the Ministry of Defense. This was reported by the press service of the military department.

How many self-propelled guns are in the transferred batch is not reported, the Ministry of Defense said that all the vehicles had passed the necessary tests before being sent to the troops and were accepted by the customer without any complaints. The dispatch of equipment to the places of deployment was carried out by road trawls, and not by rail.

It is also not specified whether the ACS are new or have undergone repairs within the framework of the state contract for the modernization of the ACS "Msta-S". Work on improving the ACS is being carried out by Uraltrnsmash, which is part of Uralvagonzavod.

The upgraded Msta-S self-propelled guns have significant structural differences from the previous modification: they are equipped with a new automated fire control system, which allows to significantly increase the rate of fire, it is possible to use digital electronic maps, which significantly accelerates orientation on the ground.

152-mm ACS "Msta-S" is equipped with a programmable charging complex. The maximum firing range is 29 km. Ammunition - 50 shells. Speed ​​- up to 60 km / h, power reserve - more than 600 km. Upgraded SAUs can fire with high-explosive, active-rocket jamming projectiles, as well as Krasnopole precision-guided munitions.

Comments

[Artyom Karagodin]

Rather, the "Coalition" would have gone into the series, but "Msta" is a good weapon! So the news is positive!

[Yuriy71]

"Coalition" is the same miracle as "Armata", "Kurganets", Su-57, aircraft carriers ..... Destroyers .... Scanty parties to "save the face" and calm the public! Yes, also, there is PAKFA and PAKDA ,,,)))

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Scanty parties to "save the face" and to calm the public!

And what the public is directly demanding new tanks / infantry fighting vehicles / CAO / aircraft carriers from the government? ))

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

And what the public is directly demanding new tanks / infantry fighting vehicles / CAO / aircraft carriers from the government? ))

Nice person. When they talk about the public, I always remember a woman from the United Russia party, who cannot make any other choice but ... and name specific cases that have benefited the Russian public.
People have been poisoned with their brains. Instead of natural products, they eat surrogates, and you want them to think about the "Coalition", "Armata", "Su-57" and other crap.
A quarter of the country's population does not always go to elections. Half of Russia's population is “middle class”.
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Excuse me, but MSTA, shooting at 29 km, is for what? An ordinary helicopter will spread the battalion (battery) firing positions "from around the corner." To continue to produce weapons, the prospect of the combat use of which is illusory, having the latest developments, is a thoughtless (perhaps deliberate) stupidity.
Correctly they say - they do it in order to shut their mouths to those who still (so far, despite, nevertheless, again) do not want to bury it. It is true that the uterus cuts her eyes, no matter how hard they try to grease them.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: ROSS 42

Excuse me, but MSTA, shooting at 29 km, is for what? A conventional helicopter will spread the battalion (battery) firing positions "from around the corner."

* looks thoughtfully at the latest modifications of the M109.

Quote: ROSS 42

To continue to produce weapons, the prospect of the combat use of which is illusory, having the latest developments, is a thoughtless (perhaps deliberate) stupidity.

The article just says that there is no certainty that these are zero "Msta", and not modernized combatant or warehouse vehicles of old modifications.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

That is, you deliberately lied about the desire of the public, but why belittle the mental abilities of people ?!

The range of the main NATO M109 self-propelled gun is also up to 30 km, and the United States has developed a longer-range self-propelled gun, but left it so far and no one panics.

Are they shutting up someone too, or can they just count money?

I would very much like to see that helicopter that from around the corner destroys the position of the ACS despite the presence of air defense, starting with infantrymen with MANPADS and ending with S-400 systems and fighter aircraft.

[Kuroneko]

Quote: Yuriy71

The coalition "is the same miracle as" Armata "," Kurganets ", Su-57, aircraft carriers .....

Quote: Yuriy71

Yes, still, there is PAX and PAKDA ,,,)))

Do you know exactly the topic and terminology?

[Artyom Karagodin]

PAK FA - this is the Su-57. Did you mean PAK DP, probably? Well, if for the Su-57, then in fact there will be 76 units by 2027, and, apparently, the series will continue.

Further. I don’t understand what kind of destroyers you are talking about? And with AB there is no clarity yet. Nobody has seen the preliminary project before. Models only.

In general, you somehow dumped everything in a heap. In my opinion, in vain. There, you need to talk about each item separately.

[Kuroneko]

Quote: Artyom Karagodin

Further did not understand what kind of destroyers you are talking about? And with AB there is no clarity yet. Nobody has seen the preliminary project before. Models only.

And in destroyers now there is no real sense. This is again to slow down everything for years on R&D, testing, rebuild logistics chains ... Super-Gorshkovs, in fact, are already destroyers in their combat capabilities. Better to focus on their already proven production.

[Artyom Karagodin]

Quote: Kuroneko

Super-Gorshkovs, in fact, are already destroyers in terms of their combat capabilities.

So I want to ask what kind of destroyers he saw? For Leaders, which are rather missile cruisers, design work has stopped since 2016. Perhaps at the very initial stage.

And with the fact that 22350M are exactly destroyers, if we call things by their proper names, no one argues. In their capabilities (if they turn out the way they were conceived), they, perhaps, will not yield to the same “Arleigh Burkes”. There would only be a second helicopter - and in general it would be cool.

[Kuroneko]

Quote: Artyom Karagodin

So I want to ask what kind of destroyers he saw? For Leaders, which are rather missile cruisers, design work has stopped since 2016. Perhaps at the very initial stage.

Yes, there were generally proactive developments and were carried out. The kind that, like, we draw pictures, make models, maybe we will be interested in the Ministry of Education. There was no direct order for the development of the destroyer. There are no fools, after 2014 we also have a long blockage in engines and gearboxes in corvettes / frigates. Not to destroyers.

[Artyom Karagodin]

Well, yes, they will stamp the Superpots, if, then they will be enough for us. And "Kuzyu" will be able to cover, and a new AB (if we have one), and a lot of other useful things they will be able to do.

maybe we will be interested in the Ministry of Education

Apparently, not only the Ministry of Defense was not interested, but also the Ministry of Defense)))). This is me, without the desire to hurt. I just liked the play on words))))

[Arhats]

Quote: Yuriy71

"Coalition" is the same miracle as "Armata", "Kurganets", Su-57, aircraft carriers ..... Destroyers .... Scanty parties to "save the face" and calm the public! Yes, also, there is PAKFA and PAKDA ,,,)))

You have deep knowledge, at least in aviation, keep it up!)

[Yuriy71]

What kind of specialist you are, I, for example, do not know !!! But I worked as the Head of the Testing Department at a military plant, worked with Customers and this "Kitchen" is very well known to me! Good luck in SHAPKO-LOSS, CHECK-SHOOTING and SELF-DECEPTION and SELF-RELIEF !!!

[Marachuh]

I myself did not work at the factory and I do not know where you worked. But my brother works in the military sphere, puts software on all modern armored vehicles. The work is in progress! My brother won't get out of business trips. So, leave your panic for girls.

[Yuriy71]

"Cons" You bet well!))) Feel better?)))

[Kuroneko]

Personally, I have not put a single one for you, but these two of your posts are more like the reaction of an offended student (also caps, brackets, and triple exclamation marks!!! 11rasras), but not Head of Testing Department... Moreover, at a military plant. Hysterics are not kept there, as a rule.

[carstorm 11]

This is such a miracle that is tested. Plus, it is still necessary to carry out the modernization of older models. Do not replace everything at once.

[lucul]

Coalition "is the same miracle as" Armata "," Kurganets ", Su-57,

So in 1940 the T-34 was the same miracle, and so what?
This is an indicator of the level of technology in the country, if necessary, everything will be quickly put on the conveyor.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: lucul

So in 1940 the T-34 was the same miracle, and so what?

God forbid that the "Coalition" was the same miracle as the T-34 in 1940, for out of 115 vehicles produced in 1940, 90 returned to the factory under warranty.

[potterz]

And I wonder what the previous speaker said wrong? Or do we have everything in proper stock? Or again, you need to shout (as in Taganrog, hundreds of be-200s are assembled), there is no one equal to us?

[Kuroneko]

Quote: Artyom Karagodin

Rather, the "Coalition" would have gone into series

Rather, Krasnopoli would have ceased to be piecemeal ammunition, it would have had a greater effect.
And our artillery is still the most powerful in the world, even without the "Coalitions".

[Artyom Karagodin]

Here you can only agree.

[Artyom Karagodin]

By the way, is Krasnopoli given a range of 80 km to the Coalitions? I understand correctly?

[Kuroneko]

Quote: Artyom Karagodin

By the way, is Krasnopoli given a range of 80 km to the Coalitions? I understand correctly?

No, Krasnopol-D, as far as I remember, has a range of 55 km. 80 km - when using a cheaper unguided active-rocket projectile.

The entry into the artillery units of the Western Military District of the promising 2S35 "Coalition-SV" self-propelled guns will become the axiom of domination in "counter-battery battles" with the barreled artillery of the NATO countries for the next 5 years

The implementation of such a high fire potential of the 2S35 ACS was facilitated by three factors at once. Firstly, it is the outstanding ballistic characteristics of the 2A88 gun, as well as the high performance and filigree accuracy of the computerized automatic fire adjustment complex, which provided the standard 152-mm OFS with a circular probable deviation (CEP) of 120 - 90 m at a distance of 40 -30 km, in while the standard KVO indicator for these types of projectiles is about 150 - 160 m.

Secondly, this is the update of the 2S35 "Coalition-SV" ammunition with promising long-range guided active-rocket projectiles with bottom gas generators and GLONASS / INS-correction (with KVO about 15 - 7 m and a range of 75-80 km), significantly superior 155-mm guided missiles M982 Block I-A2 "Excalibur" in range (45 - 55 km versus 80 km, respectively).

And finally, thirdly, it is the ability to fire Tula high-precision guided artillery shells (UAS) "Krasnopol-M2" and "Krasnopol-D" with semi-active laser seeker at a distance of 35 and 55 km, respectively, while the ballistic characteristics of the guns 2A64M2 (ACS 2S19M2 "Msta-S") and 2A79 (ACS 2S33 "Msta-SM") provided the range of action of "Krasnopol-M2" no more than 26 km and "Krasnopol-D" - no more than 43 km. Thus, for the first time in the modern history of the Missile Forces and artillery of the Russian Ground Forces, stable and long-awaited dominance was established in hypothetical "artillery duels" with modern Western European and American self-propelled guns (including the German PzH-2000, the American M109A6 PIM and the British AS90).

Krasnopoli is just a precision weapon. Somewhere I read estimates that with counter-battery combat at distances of more than 30 km, to guarantee the defeat of the enemy, you need either about 900 conventional shells, or only 9 Krasnopols.

[Artyom Karagodin]

Quote: Kuroneko

in counter-battery combat at distances of more than 30 km, for guaranteed defeat of the enemy, either about 900 conventional shells are needed, or only 9 Krasnopols.

Yes, "Krasnopoli", although it is more expensive than conventional shells separately, but in the end, the savings come out sickly. Indeed, the troops would sooner be saturated with them.

I am not a specialist, but it seems to me that over time, such guided missiles will greatly squeeze short-range missiles, perhaps even anti-tank missiles. Apparently, the missiles will still have their own niche, but the future belongs to guided and corrected projectiles. As I understand it from my amateurish bell tower. Thanks for the clarification!

[yehat2]

I'm wondering if mobile mortar systems with automated fire will be put into operation? The installation, which is now in service with us, inspires, but only with firepower, and not with its rapid response capabilities.

[Kuroneko]

Quote: yehat2

The installation, which is now in service with us, inspires, but only with firepower, and not with its rapid response capabilities.

Are you talking about Tulips? Well, their task will be somewhat different, given that they are capable of bullet tactical nuclear mines.

[yehat2]

And if you need to cover a platoon of soldiers, will you also work with nuclear mines?
I meant all installations that are similar in design - not only a tulip, but a bastion and a couple of similar complexes
in modern conditions they are too slow and inaccurate.

[Kuroneko]

Quote: yehat2

similar in structure - not only a tulip, but a bastion and a couple of similar complexes
in modern conditions they are too slow and inaccurate.

How is Bastion similar to mobile mortars? This is a missile mobile coastal defense complex. Anti-ship. What about inaccuracy and slowness? Niponil. Why all of a sudden? It is transferred to the firing position in just 5 minutes, and back to the stowed position even faster. And we take into account that everything is much slower with ships. There, one maneuver can take 15-30 minutes. As for the accuracy of Bastion, no one seemed to have any complaints either. Or do you have something to say about the inaccuracy of the Yakhont / Onyx anti-ship missile system? By the way, it is also supersonic. Axes, as we all remember, are subsonic.

[yehat2]

Quote: Kuroneko

This is a missile mobile coastal defense complex

there is another bastion - a truck with a mortar

[Kuroneko]

Quote: yehat2

there is another bastion - a truck with a mortar

Well, we just don't really need self-propelled mortars. The same Sani complex exists, it is enough. Cheap and cheerful.

After the modernization of 2020, the mobility and accuracy of firing increased (it received a complex of guided weapons KM-8 "Gran" - high-explosive fragmentation mines with a laser-type 9E430 homing head; this allows you to hit stationary and moving targets at a distance of 9000 meters at any time of the day and without sighting).

These bourgeois do not know what else to build on the basis of their infantry fighting vehicles (because there are few tanks, or outdated). And everything is modest about the ACS.

[URAL72]

Considering the experience of the DPR army, and we are not Azm, but Omega of the Russian army, then even factory repair without modernization is already good. But the new ones are certainly better, because Msta did not manage to enter the troops in sufficient numbers. And the Coalition, Armata, is not in a hurry. There are more important things to do.

[Lord of the Sith]

In winter, 18 "Coalitions" were transferred by the plant to the Southern Military District.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Sith Lord

In winter, 18 "Coalitions" were transferred by the plant to the Southern Military District.

Of the data available in the media, there are only 10 “Coalitions” of the Western Military District. It was not possible to find specific figures on the supply of "Coalitions" to the Southern Military District. They wrote that this was an experienced game.
Therefore, questions arise about "why do we need XNUMX years old old stuff", if the release of new technology takes place.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: ROSS 42

Of the data available in the media, there are only 10 “Coalitions” of the Western Military District.

For the first time, a batch of the newest self-propelled howitzers "Coalition-SV" entered service with the Central Military District (CVO).
Eight units of the Coalition-SV inter-service artillery complex first entered the arsenals of the Central Military District for further dispatch to the troops.

© 26.05.2020, Site of the RF Ministry of Defense, "News" section.
BMPD wrote that the "Coalitions" of the Central Military District went to the 400th self-propelled artillery regiment of the 90th tank division (Chebarkul).

[Lord of the Sith]

A little below answered.

[Lord of the Sith]

January 20 2021 years
A batch of the newest 152-mm self-propelled artillery units "Coalition-SV" will enter service with an artillery unit of one of the formations deployed in the Southern Military District in the first half of 2021.

The Izvestia newspaper reported this on Tuesday January 19, 2021, citing information from its sources in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

"Coalition-SV" howitzers will soon enter service with one of the formations of the Southern Military District (YuVO). They will strengthen the artillery fist gathered in the south of the country, ”the newspaper said.
https://iz.ru/1113131/anton-lavrov-aleksei-ramm/v-liderakh-koalitciia-dalnoboinye-gaubitcy-otpraviat-na-iug

[Ros 56]

Hang yourself dushary-Banderlog, they are preparing gifts for you.

[senima56]

It's time for the "Coalition" to appear in the army! We have been waiting for a long time!

[Nikolay Dyaglev]

Where is Geacinth C? Are they going to do anything with this self-propelled gun? Beats at 30 km, but not a word about her