The Baltic Fleet will strengthen the RTOs of projects 22800 "Karakurt" and 21631 "Buyan-M"

The Baltic Fleet will be strengthened by two small missile ships of projects 22800 "Karakurt" and 21631 "Buyan-M". Both ships will be part of the 36th MRK brigade.

The Baltic Fleet is completing the rearmament of the 36th MRK brigade, which includes: the 1st Guards missile boat division and the 106th small missile ship division. Until the end of this year, it will include two small rocket ships, albeit of different projects. We are talking about MRK "Burya" project 22800 "Karakurt" and MRC "Grad" project 21631 "Buyan-M".

Although both ships are in various stages of construction, both are due to replenish the Baltic Fleet this year. "News" with reference to the Ministry of Defense. MRK "Tempest" has already been built and is being tested. This ship was laid down at Pella in December 2016. According to the plans of shipbuilders and the Russian Navy, the ship was supposed to start factory and sea trials in 2019, and in 2020 it was to become part of the Russian fleet.

RTOs of this project have a length of 67 meters, a width of 11 meters and a draft of 4 meters. Displacement - about 800 tons, cruising range - up to 2500 miles, autonomy - 15 days. The main armament - one PU UKSK (universal ship complex) 3S14 RK for 8 KR "Caliber", one 76-mm gun mount AK-176MA, ZRPK Pantsir-M, two 14.5-mm or 12,7-mm machine gun MTPU.

MRK "Grad" project 21631 "Buyan-M" is still under construction. By the end of the year, he must pass all tests and join the fleet.

The ships of the project 21631 "Buyan-M" are the modernization of the project 21630 "Buyan" and belong to the multipurpose ships of the "river-sea" class. Designed to protect the economic zone of the state. The main armament is the Kalibr-NK long-range universal missile system for eight vertical silos. Displacement 949 tons. Length 74,1 meters, width 11,0 meters, height 6,57 meters, draft 2,6 meters. The maximum speed is 25 knots. Cruising range - 2500 miles, autonomy - 10 days. Crew - 52 people. A water-jet propulsion unit is installed.

Comments

[smart ass]

They could have riveted more, cheap and angry

[Ru_Na]

Well, you can rivet, but what will they walk on, on oars? There are not enough diesels, and the second time to go through the epic with Chinese power plants, no thanks!

[smart ass]

Let it stand at the base without moving, do the cleers fly like 2500? Enough for baltica

[Machito]

Let's beat off karakurt.

[Ru_Na]

On Pella, and so three karakurt stand without engines, waiting for their turn, much more, they take up space, you need to look after it, maintain and all this at the expense of the forces and means of the shipyard.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Clever man

Let it stand at the base without moving, do the cleers fly like 2500? Enough for baltica

Then why should you build ships at all? Put the PU right on the berth.

[Vladimir Lenin]

Then why should you build ships at all? Put the PU right on the berth.

Then they fall under the short- and medium-range missile treaty! Unlike the United States, we have not yet withdrawn from it, we have only suspended it.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Vladimir Lenin

Then why should you build ships at all? Put the PU right on the berth.

Then they fall under the short- and medium-range missile treaty! Unlike the United States, we have not yet withdrawn from it, we have only suspended it.

It is possible next to the pier, on the raft
But in essence, the contract has already been covered. What can be a contract if one of the two agreed parties withdrew from it?

[Anachoret]

Quote: Ru_Na

Well, you can rivet, but what will they walk on, on oars? There are not enough diesels, and the second time to go through the epic with Chinese power plants, no thanks!

for 7 years not to resolve the issue of the engine for frigates and for corvettes with diesel engines (in sufficient quantities) is it already a question of the incompetence of state managers or sabotage of national security?)))

[For example]

Quote: Anchorite

the question of the incompetence of government managers

This is not a question at all.
There are practically no suitable ones.
There are mostly their own.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: For example

There are practically no suitable ones.

Yeah, but here - through one, and all the broadest profile, a kind of smart bourgeoisie.

[Ru_Na]

I think you should ask this question personally GDP)))

[For example]

GDP is not up to that.
He launches the aurus into production.
Antlers are more important than any engines for the Navy.

A Russian official should carry Zho.pu in comfort. I just have to.
Otherwise, it is not convenient in front of partners.

If you create an aurus with a gas turbine
Maybe then they will start production and the Navy will also receive engines?

[alexmach]

in 7 years not to resolve the issue of the propulsion system for frigates

Yes, they seem to have decided the same.

for corvettes with diesel engines (in sufficient quantities)

With the number of diesels, everything seems to be in order, too.
The problem with gearboxes and the production of assembled units .. well, just as much with the range of diesel engines.

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: alexmach

Yes, they seem to have decided the same.

Where? What? When? How ?!!

[alexmach]

Where? What? When? How ?!!

According to rumors, a power plant has been installed on the "Admiral Golovko" and the ship is preparing for mooring and then for sea trials this year. And "Admiral Isakov", according to the same rumors, is also "on the way". Preparing for launching, in contrast to the "Golovko" with an already installed power plant.

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: alexmach

According to rumors, a power plant has been installed on the "Admiral Golovko" and the ship is being prepared

and how it is connected with the production of radial high-speed 507 diesel engines for "Karakurt" ? !! And the engine for "Buyan-M" has nothing to do with the power plant for frigates 22350 (!)...
What are you talking about now ?! For the same Karakurt, the industry is able to manufacture (release) 1,5 machine sets for the power plant (one ship) per year !!!!
That is why next in line at the berths of the Pella plant, there are at least three buildings (!), each "waiting for your heart" (in this case, the power plant / motors means) ... and soon the same queues will be in Zelenodolsk ...

[alexmach]

and how is this connected with the release of radial high-speed 507 diesel engines for "Karakurt" ?!

I do not know. This was at the expense of the power plant for the frigates from the commentator above.

in 7 years not to resolve the issue of the propulsion system for frigates

Experts say about the Carrakurt that such ships would benefit from a medium-speed diesel engine. And with this the case is a pipe.

[S. Smirnov]

Quote: alexmach

Problem with gearboxes and production of assembled units

With reducers, in general, the organization of production suggests itself in addition to "Zvezda" somewhere else. Or at some kind of diesel-building production, or from scratch. As an example, because of the need, it was even decided to build a metallurgical complex at SSK "Zvezda" for sheet metal and pipe production. Here we have to solve the problem as well.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Anchorite

is this already a question about the incompetence of state managers or sabotage of national security?)))

I just want to say: "There is no utyrka on you, comrade Stalin!"
And the current leader somehow doesn't want to offend anyone, hesitates, damn it, like a maiden of marriageable age ... "
(Oh, not those Chekists went now, oh not those!)
AHA.

[paul3390]

It's not very clear, for a fig they are generally needed. And even more so - in the Baltic. With no air defense, they are just targets. And where to start up on the adversary of Caliber - in those places, and so there is ..

While the contract was in effect - okay, it was a means to increase the number of launching missile launchers. If it is impossible on land. But now - why rivet them?

[Grits]

Quote: paul3390

It's not very clear, for a fig they are generally needed. And even more so - in the Baltic. With no air defense, they are just targets. And where to start up on the adversary of Caliber - in those places, and so there is ..

While the contract was in effect - okay, it was a means to increase the number of launching missile launchers. If it is impossible on land. But now - why rivet them?

In my opinion, all Buyans should be in the Caspian Sea. The threat to the enemy's aviation is minimal there; PLO is also not needed. And you can run "Caliber" in any direction - you already have experience. And if necessary, you can overtake the canals to any sea - the Black, Azov, White, Baltic.

[isv000]

The Baltic is full of skerries where you can ditch it, and you can put Zircon into the side launchers. They will go to NATO with a glance, scratching their turnips - where will they come from? Here are just more of them ...

[Winnie76]

Quote: Gritsa

In my opinion, all Buyans should be in the Caspian Sea. The threat to the enemy's aviation is minimal there, and PLO is also not needed.

And I would be based on Ladoga. All of the above + good air defense cover + ship repair within walking distance + northern Europe at gunpoint

[isv000]

Right. With our water area, these karakurt can dissolve everywhere and, unexpectedly for an adversary, swell ...

[Grits]

Quote: Winnie76

And I would be based on Ladoga

It is also an option

[Boa kaa]

Quote: paul3390

It's not very clear, for a fig they are generally needed. And even more so - in the Baltic.

Especially for Indians:
- distance from Kaliningrad to London = 1417 km.
- If you jump to the pouring zone, then about 1200-1250 km will be ...
Therefore, it is possible to "calibrate" the volumes for the tomatoes themselves. And by all means, a gift from the SBP will need to be sent so that your head does not shake when climbing Big Ben!
AHA.

[Cananecat]

The country is huge, and we build ships, as if we cut a dugout into one ax ... it's a shame

[Castro Ruiz]

Well on bezrib and Buyan-M riba.

[isv000]

Riba will be if you let it down the Dnieper, from the direction of Gomel ...

[alexmach]

Are you finishing rearmament? Delivery of two ships?

[isv000]

The spool is small but expensive, and even bites ...

[alexmach]

Looked, it turns out that there are already RTOs of both projects. But there are also "Gadflies" with "Lightning". The latter, by the way, are relatively fresh. Here they would be modernized and re-equipped.

[isv000]

Right. This is not a "mosquito fleet", it will not bite - straight into the queens ...

[URAL72]

I think Buyan is not needed there. Again there is a variety of types, and even in the same brigade. Their place is on the rivers - Amur, Don, tomorrow Dnieper ...

[moreman78]

Quote: URAL72

I think Buyan is not needed there. Again there is a variety of types, and even in the same brigade. Their place is on the rivers - Amur, Don, tomorrow Dnieper ...

Buyan has long been needed only to support the plant in Tatarstan! For this, the series was inflated!

[isv000]

tomorrow Dnipro ...

Why tomorrow? You can put the old man, you can revive the Dnieper flotilla ...

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: moreman78

Buyan has long been needed only to support the plant in Tatarstan! For this, the series was inflated!

but it was necessary to drive serially "Cheetahs" 11664 on "diesel fours from D-500" ...
for a faster start of mass production, which Kolomensky Zavod had to allocate money three years ago !!

[isv000]

A successful boat - just right to climb the skerries ...

[petrol cutter]

I don't know how about * Buyanov *.
But * Karakurt * in * Pella * costs two fleets.
Where are the Zin diesels?! ..
By diesel engines (for brevity), the goat is understandable, it means the entire power plant of the steamer in assembly.

[Andrey Shiryaev]

106 division "bad weather" was the name of the MRK "Storm" "Grad" "ZYB" Passat "Shkval" how long was it