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Chinese "analogue" ZRPK "Pantsir-S": presented a new self-propelled anti-aircraft complex

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Chinese "analogue" ZRPK "Pantsir-S": presented a new self-propelled anti-aircraft complex

China Central Television (CCTV) recently demonstrated a new type of self-propelled 35mm anti-aircraft system, located on an eight-wheeled chassis and equipped with a cannon and two surface-to-air missiles. The combat "stuffing" of the system makes it similar to the Pantsir-S air defense missile system, which allows us to consider it as a kind of China's response to a Russian product. Chinese analysts noted that this is an excellent choice for providing field anti-aircraft cover for troops.


The new product is equipped with advanced radar and fire control systems and can act as an autonomous combat unit, which makes it a high-class product among other anti-aircraft guns.

- noted on the CCTV channel, without disclosing the designation of the new air defense system.

As stated, it is highly mobile and can accompany mechanized troops for their anti-aircraft cover, which allows it to provide effective protection for the combined-arms brigade, including from the effects of drones.

At the same time, the Chinese "analogue" of the Russian "Pantsir-S" uses a single-barreled cannon, which has the same combat power as its double-barreled predecessors, since the new gun is equipped with a completely new automatic loader, which significantly increases its rate of fire.

Rotary [drum] loading mechanism, which also improves accuracy and reliability weapons, was difficult to develop due to high requirements for construction and material

- explained the source of CCTV, noting that the Chinese defense industry has successfully solved all the problems that arose during its creation.

According to military expert Wei Dongsu, in comparison with self-propelled anti-aircraft guns using tracked vehicles, wheeled vehicles have higher mobility and range, are more difficult to detect and have a better chance of attacking from the air. According to him, the new product is capable of working on ground targets.
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  1. SaLaR
    SaLaR 31 May 2021 12: 54
    -1
    Chinese however ....... Holeso ..... laughing
  2. RealPilot
    RealPilot 31 May 2021 12: 55
    +29
    Is this an analogue of "Shell"? He only has 2 missiles and one cannon!
    Plus the chassis on the armored personnel carrier looks like
    there is no place for the equipment that is on the "Pantsir".
    The power of the machines is different (in terms of radar power).

    Plus, "Pantsir" is an object air defense, it is not for escorting troops on the march. And here the air defense is military, intended for defense in completely different conditions.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 31 May 2021 12: 58
      +8
      Quote: RealPilot
      Is this an analogue of "Shell"?

      Well, we cut it down a bit. Don't find fault. Chinese means excellent wassat
    2. poquello
      poquello 31 May 2021 13: 00
      +8
      Quote: RealPilot
      Is this an analogue of "Shell"?

      good question, second question - who called it the analogue of the shell?
      1. mojohed2012
        mojohed2012 31 May 2021 13: 08
        +9
        An analogue of Armor, with 2 analogs of a needle 1?
        Well, they took an armored personnel carrier, welded on a new turret, fitted 2 MANPADS with a needle or an arrow - and an analogue? And what about a cannon or a large-caliber machine gun? The armor has more powerful weapons and will be on a larger scale.
      2. Victor Tsenin
        Victor Tsenin 31 May 2021 13: 10
        +2
        Uncle Liao, apparently an analogue of Igor Prokopenko
    3. Guru
      Guru 31 May 2021 13: 15
      +1
      Plus, "Pantsir" is an object air defense, it is not for escorting troops on the march.
      And why did you get the idea that the Shell would not be able to accompany on the march? He can fire on the move.
      1. mvg
        mvg 31 May 2021 13: 38
        -8
        And escho to take off with a short run and act as an AWACS. It is on wheels that barely stands, but why should you shoot
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    5. lucul
      lucul 31 May 2021 13: 31
      0
      Is this an analogue of "Shell"? He only has 2 missiles and one cannon!

      Here it is much more interesting what he has with the means of detection - is there an OLS or a radar?
      1. D16
        D16 31 May 2021 18: 13
        +1
        OLS or radar station is there

        There is an observation station, but no shooting station. There is an OLS. That is, it is not even under-armor, but overexertion. laughing Although the artillery unit is weaker.
        1. lucul
          lucul 31 May 2021 18: 27
          0
          There is an observation station, but no shooting station. There is an OLS. That is, it is not even under-armor, but overexertion. laughing Although the artillery unit is weaker.

          Vooot, there are still adequate ones for VO)))
    6. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 31 May 2021 14: 04
      -1
      Rather Tunguska. But definitely not a shell.
      1. garri-lin
        garri-lin 31 May 2021 15: 00
        -1
        Hurry up to the modernized Shilka.
    7. Kuroneko
      Kuroneko 31 May 2021 14: 10
      +1
      Quote: RealPilot
      Is this an analogue of "Shell"? He only has 2 missiles and one cannon!
      Plus the chassis on the armored personnel carrier looks like
      there is no place for the equipment that is on the "Pantsir".

      Well, in fact, it should have been called a conditional analogue of "Tunguska". Wheeled. But it's just that everyone is now hearing only "Shell", that's all they compare with it. Just instead of a brain, some have a cerebellum. Only about "Shell" and remember.
    8. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 31 May 2021 18: 59
      +2
      I think the chassis is better than Kamaz
  3. paul3390
    paul3390 31 May 2021 12: 57
    +7
    Two rockets ?? Something will not be enough according to modern layouts ..
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 31 May 2021 13: 06
      +2
      He kind of has a recharge right on the car.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 31 May 2021 13: 28
      +5
      4 rockets, just why hang extra for tests.
      1. tlauicol
        tlauicol 31 May 2021 13: 39
        +1
        Did you copy and paste Oerlikon or something of your own?
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 31 May 2021 13: 46
          +3
          Back in the 80s, they bought a license for a CDA and are releasing it by modernizing it, processing it with a file. They have already done a lot of types. It was probably also converted into a separate type.

          The original KDA is in service by the way too.
      2. Kuroneko
        Kuroneko 31 May 2021 14: 35
        +1
        The "Tunguska" initially also had only 4 missiles, but then it was doubled.
      3. garri-lin
        garri-lin 31 May 2021 15: 02
        0
        And what kind of rockets do not you know? Like larger MANPADS?
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 31 May 2021 15: 36
          +3
          The missile unit is claimed to be identical to their army Yitian air defense system.

          Consequently, the TY-90 missiles are the main short-range caliber of the fleet (from a corvette to an aircraft carrier), the main V-B rocket for helicopters, well, the ground forces also use it on different chassis. In fact, this is a 20 kg MD missile (6-8 km) - a la heavy universal MANPADS, with a good seeker and 3 kg warhead (they took Mistral there as a reference overlap in terms of efficiency and parameters).


          1. garri-lin
            garri-lin 31 May 2021 17: 30
            0
            Thank you for the clarification. It turns out not an analogue of the Shell in any way.
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 31 May 2021 18: 33
              +1
              Well, they have studies a la Carapace without a cannon part. 12 blind missiles on radio command guidance. Also export and carry about 3-4 years in this form at exhibitions.



              1. garri-lin
                garri-lin 31 May 2021 19: 58
                0
                I wonder why such missiles were not combined with the weapon. A cheap solution for the near field.
                1. Kuroneko
                  Kuroneko 31 May 2021 21: 42
                  +2
                  And why have we developed a purely cannon-based derivation-air defense?

                  And there is a purely rocket Pine / Birder.

                  Because hybrids are always quite complicated and expensive. At the same Tunguska - and she was the first air defense missile system - it was not for nothing that two radars had to be installed.
  4. Victor Tsenin
    Victor Tsenin 31 May 2021 13: 09
    +3
    > harder to detect and more likely to be attacked from the air.

    Is it more difficult acoustically mean?
    And in what incomprehensible way the wheels increase the chances of an attack from the air for me a complete mystery)
  5. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 31 May 2021 13: 10
    +2
    Gospidya! How easy it is for us to put “labels” on everything that “moves”!
  6. RealPilot
    RealPilot 31 May 2021 13: 27
    +1
    Quote: Guru
    Plus, "Pantsir" is an object air defense, it is not for escorting troops on the march.
    And why did you get the idea that the Shell would not be able to accompany on the march? He can fire on the move.

    Good afternoon.
    All the same, "Pantsir" was created to protect objects, as a short-range air defense system. Cover nuclear power plants, the same S-300-400-500 ... And much more.

    It can technically shoot on the move (with restrictions), but usually stands on retractable stops. The cabins are almost unarmored ... It has its own place in the air defense system.

    We have "TOP", "Buk" and so on. They are just for those purposes.
  7. spirit
    spirit 31 May 2021 13: 29
    +3
    Yes, it is rather a budget Chinese analogue of a product from the USA, shorad.
    Only here, in addition to the cannon and MANPADS, a couple of Hellfire are installed. And the chassis is stronger, the Chinese supposedly put their anti-aircraft gun on the Soviet 80 armored personnel carrier laughing
  8. Klingon
    Klingon 31 May 2021 13: 35
    +2
    over there, the Vietnamese Shilka modernized there 4 missiles in a container primed, a new MSA and a radar, it turned out abruptly. By the way, there was an article on VO,
    here is the vidos from the link:
    https://youtu.be/OGm6Tk2p0g8
  9. donavi49
    donavi49 31 May 2021 13: 37
    +7
    This is not an analogue of a shell, but an export variation of the SV air defense for mobile wheel joints. SWS2 has been called for 2 years already as it fiddles around exhibitions.


    In general, they have a wagon and a cart of all sorts of models. For example, even the army has such cars. Multi-barreled naval cut off + missiles.


    Or here is the homeless version of the MZA on a truck controlled through stabilized optics and KDA guns in the Chinese version.


    Well, the fierce drug addiction helicopter landing (well, aircraft too) universal amphibious fire support vehicle for landing with a multi-barrel.
    1. betta
      betta 31 May 2021 14: 39
      -2
      With such a speed of development and construction, how is their quality? winked
      1. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 31 May 2021 19: 02
        +1
        you can see it as a sediment from the speed of the Russian military-industrial complex
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 31 May 2021 15: 11
      0
      Quote: donavi49
      In general, they have a wagon and a cart of all sorts of models

      Duc, I heard that in the USSR there was an idea to modernize the "Shilka" with the "help" of a 6-barreled 30-mm naval "machine gun" ... but something did not go well! Moreover, I heard about the 30-mm caliber! Although there was also a 6-barreled 23-mm aviation "machine gun"!
      PS But actually the Chinese ... they are still entertainers! Well, for example ... I once came across a Chinese "copy" of the Finnish Nokia ... Outwardly it looked like a well-known Finnish model and the marking was appropriate ... But a Chinese mobile phone was designed for 2 SIM cards instead of one, and a built-in television receiver when the "finn" did not have it! And like "extended" Chinese devices, I have met a lot! Even among the Soviet weapons "one-piece" by the Chinese, there were "extensions-additions"!
  10. Pavel57
    Pavel57 31 May 2021 13: 50
    0
    Rather, it should be compared with Tunguska.
  11. dgonni
    dgonni 31 May 2021 13: 54
    0
    there is only one little BUT! The cannon is a copy of Erlikon and Reinmetal and has programmable projectiles! That immediately brings this very system far ahead in comparison with the Armor!
  12. APASUS
    APASUS 31 May 2021 14: 02
    +1
    China now steals more competently, they don't copy stupidly to rivets now. They just put them on their chassis, make their own electronics and, as it were, nothing to do with that. And they could copy any model, even this one for example.
  13. AML
    AML 31 May 2021 14: 24
    0
    Quote: RealPilot

    Plus, "Pantsir" is an object air defense, it is not for escorting troops on the march.


    CM seems to be able to shoot out on the march.
  14. AML
    AML 31 May 2021 14: 30
    +1
    Quote: RealPilot

    All the same, "Pantsir" was created to protect objects, as a short-range air defense system. Cover nuclear power plants, the same S-300-400-500 ... And much more.

    It can technically shoot on the move (with restrictions), but usually stands on retractable stops. The cabins are almost unarmored ... It has its own place in the air defense system.


    Yes, it was created. And he was taught to shoot and accompany him on the move later. There were probably reasons. Hardly for the sake of boredom.
  15. AML
    AML 31 May 2021 14: 32
    -2
    Quote: dgonni
    there is only one little BUT! The cannon is a copy of Erlikon and Reinmetal and has programmable projectiles! That immediately brings this very system far ahead in comparison with the Armor!

    Um, why would he need programmable projectiles at his rate of fire? Don't you get tired of programming?

    Э
  16. Radikal
    Radikal 31 May 2021 14: 41
    +2
    Chinese "analogue" ZRPK "Pantsir-S": presented a new self-propelled anti-aircraft complex
    Judging by the photo, the chassis is normal, with good centering, unlike KAMAZ. sad
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 31 May 2021 14: 57
      +2
      Shell and Mustang have and BAZ was spotted
      1. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 31 May 2021 19: 03
        +1
        and why mainly KAMAZ?
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 31 May 2021 20: 44
          0
          Price ... and, or shoot on the move .., or from the spot. Depends on TK
  17. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 31 May 2021 14: 56
    0
    Rather, Tunguzki ..... military chassis ...
  18. Radikal
    Radikal 31 May 2021 17: 49
    +1
    Quote: Zaurbek
    Shell and Mustang have and BAZ was spotted

    The BAZ is cumbersome, in terms of mobility for the air defense system - I don't know, let the professionals say. sad
  19. stepka_razin
    stepka_razin 1 June 2021 03: 50
    +1
    The new "stuffing" of the system makes it similar to the "Pantsir-S" air defense missile system, which allows us to consider it as a kind of response from the PRC

    What makes it akin, the author is a miracle or you have any air defense installation with a cannon, an analogue of a shell laughing
  20. alexey alexeyev_2
    alexey alexeyev_2 1 June 2021 05: 42
    -3
    Gospidya !! What he is ugly then .. And even narrow-eyed then.
  21. riwas
    riwas 1 June 2021 06: 47
    +1
    The rotary [drum] loading mechanism, which also improves the accuracy and reliability of the weapon, was difficult to develop due to the high requirements for design and material

    Probably talking about a revolving cannon. Their barrel quickly overheats and wears out. Therefore, preference is given to multi-barrel systems.