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"Evidence" of a military alliance between Russia and China was found in Germany

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Russia and China have formed a military alliance, "evidence" of a military alliance of the second and third armies of the world was found in Germany.


The German political scientist Joachim Krause came to the conclusion that Moscow and Beijing had formed a military alliance, who shared his thoughts with Die Welt. Moreover, according to the German, the military alliance is already a reality, not intentions.

In favor of his theory, Krause cited several facts that, in his opinion, directly indicate the existence of this union. There are two main ones: first, Russia is supplying China with the latest weapons, such as the Su-35 fighter and S-400 air defense systems, and the second is that Russia and China are conducting joint military exercises. In addition, Russia is taking part in the creation of the Chinese missile defense system, and the stranger will not be allowed to the secrets.

Also in favor of the conclusion of a military alliance is the fact that as soon as Russia deployed its troops near the border of Ukraine, China, at the same hour, increased pressure on Taiwan. According to the political scientist, this is also a signal of China's readiness to provide Russia with military assistance if necessary.

The author named the main task of such a military alliance to oust the United States from the zones of geopolitical interests of Russia and China.

It is noted that Russia and China occupy the second and third positions in the world ranking of armaments, behind only the United States. But together they significantly outnumber the Americans, including in terms of their nuclear arsenal.
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  1. Alexey Sommer
    Alexey Sommer 31 May 2021 11: 00
    +9
    Fear has big eyes.
    1. Stena
      Stena 31 May 2021 11: 59
      +3
      Quote: Alexey Sommer
      Fear has big eyes.

      From the rubric "Lenin opened our eyes."
      "The Chinese - and we are a little" wink
      1. Civil
        Civil 31 May 2021 12: 34
        -20%
        There is no basis for an alliance of the Chinese communists with the capitalist country of the 3rd world:
        1. Different goals of the ruling classes are for some of the construction of developed socialism with a vector of development of their country oriented towards satisfying the people's interests, while for the capitalist countries it is the extraction of profit with the subsequent move to the West.
        2. In one country the power is held by the Communist Party, and in the capitalist country the power is held by the party of the super-rich representatives of the elite.
        3. Incomparable levels of the economy, the PRC has a powerfully developing super-modern economy, the capital of the world is in decline and the sale of raw materials.
        4. This list can be continued for a long time. The PRC will accept the Russian Federation into the union only as a vassal with a change in the political elite.

        This misalliance will be the end, because Moscow will never agree to this. Not profitable.
        1. ficus2003
          ficus2003 31 May 2021 15: 06
          +12
          Yes, you need a friend to see a psychotherapist, the curtain fell 30 years ago and you write as if you never pulled your head out of communist manuals.
        2. Voltsky
          Voltsky 31 May 2021 21: 24
          +1
          you would stop using sedatives, look and the world around you would clear up
        3. Bumblebee
          Bumblebee 31 May 2021 23: 23
          -1
          I agree. One of the few adequate comments.
          1. Ilya Nikitich
            Ilya Nikitich 1 June 2021 06: 34
            0
            To whom the mare is a bride, and to whom the dzhigurda is adequate ...
        4. English tarantas
          English tarantas 2 June 2021 11: 09
          0
          1. China needs to survive among the capitalists, we now see how China, left alone, is no longer very communist, the party is trying to prevent the tendencies leading China to capitalism from winning. To do this, they need an advantage in military power with NATO, an alliance with Russia and the ODKB countries gives them this, in terms of nuclear potential for sure.
          2. Yes, and? Above said
          3. And this has to do with it, they do not need our economy, they need our weapons and manpower, but we need their economy, like other cap countries. So, returning to the first point, our interests coincide, they have an interest in surviving, we have an interest in beating competitors.
          4. Not so dramatically, but yes, if the United States is bent, China will become communist again completely (hopefully) and crush the rotten capitalism in Russia. In addition, we have a huge number of people who sympathize with communism and China, they cannot but know about it. But now China has a slightly different task, in order to start communism in large countries, it needs to be very strong, not potentially, but in fact, the Union at one time also led communism around the world and supported the communists, but let's look at the list of these countries and there will not be the most significant countries in the world, but the task of survival was acute.
      2. Alex777
        Alex777 31 May 2021 12: 39
        +1
        Comrade Xi publicly suggested that VVP move to deeper cooperation in the military sphere, but VVP avoided answering. hi
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    3. Anachoret
      Anachoret 31 May 2021 12: 23
      +4
      Russia put s400 in Turkey ... guard, Russia entered into a military alliance with Turkey))
      Probably, German journalists forgot that their assumptions and other highlighted likes are not evidence))
  2. andrewkor
    andrewkor 31 May 2021 11: 02
    -2
    With some roughnesses, this alliance has existed since 1935, even under Chiang Kai-shek! Too late nemchura saw the light!
    1. isv000
      isv000 31 May 2021 11: 07
      +4
      A German is forgivable - he is supposed to walk and look around, after 1945 ... lol
    2. dorz
      dorz 31 May 2021 11: 44
      +5
      China makes alliances only with sovereign, independent countries:

      China and Iran signed a comprehensive agreement in March 2021 strategic cooperation for a period of 25 years. The details of the agreement have not been made public, but it is known that it is likely to cover not only such areas as the economy and culture, but also more sensitive areas - defense and intelligence.
    3. lucul
      lucul 31 May 2021 12: 27
      0
      Too late nemchura saw the light!

      Yes, what a nonsense he is
      Joachim Krause

      An ordinary Izzy.
  3. Mouse
    Mouse 31 May 2021 11: 04
    +5
    But together they are significantly superior to the Americans, including in nuclear weapons.
    How many of these alliances do the Americans have?
    а
    1. novel66
      novel66 31 May 2021 11: 38
      +5
      not so much alliances as misalliance
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 31 May 2021 11: 04
    0
    Remember what happened to the united Europe when it decided to fight against two opponents. This time it will be faster and more painful. We have already learned from our mistakes! am
  5. isv000
    isv000 31 May 2021 11: 05
    +2
    If the hare has long ears, then this is for the rain ... fool
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 31 May 2021 11: 08
      +9
      In the photo - both in camouflage! This raises specific suspicions ... fellow
      1. novel66
        novel66 31 May 2021 11: 39
        +2
        and the eyes of both are not very wide ... Volodya! hi
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 31 May 2021 11: 50
          0
          Quote: novel xnumx
          both have eyes

          Looking in one direction!
          Roma hi
          1. novel66
            novel66 31 May 2021 11: 51
            +1
            on the contrary - crossfire!
            1. Uncle lee
              Uncle lee 31 May 2021 11: 56
              +1
              "But we were only stronger friends under the cross fire" ...
              From the song ....
    2. knn54
      knn54 31 May 2021 11: 29
      0
      Maybe the author was "wrong" - not Germany, but Estonia?
  6. Sergey Obraztsov
    Sergey Obraztsov 31 May 2021 11: 18
    +3
    Why allies at once? What is a military alliance in general? As far as I understand, this is an obligation in the event of aggression by one of the countries to enter the war on the side of an ally. Or attack someone together. Can you imagine it in reality? Will Russia drive its fleet to recapture Taiwan? Or will the Chinese trample on Ukraine, having flown to our western borders on transport planes? Delirium delirium.
    We are rather not opponents. As far as I remember, the demilitarized zone between us and the Chinese is about 1000 kilometers.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 31 May 2021 11: 26
      +2
      Everything is much simpler in reality. Local conflicts like Taiwan until the states enter the parties are resolved themselves. But if they fit in, then in any case they will have to take the side.
      1. Yves762
        Yves762 31 May 2021 11: 52
        0
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Local conflicts like Taiwan until the states enter the parties are resolved by themselves.


        And where is "MatraSSiki "(tm) in a recent topic with Karabakh (for example)?

        And they are not "resolved" either ...
        what ... Although the same Karabakh ..., but there is "a lot of hair from the beard of the Turkish sultan" - so again "not yourself". request
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 31 May 2021 12: 00
          -1
          So on the other side we were there. We just had our own interests. Do you think if even in theory there was a possibility that the Russian Federation would defend Karabakh there all this happened? Taiwan is the most important task for China. And sooner or later the issue will begin to be resolved there.
          1. Yves762
            Yves762 31 May 2021 16: 18
            -1
            IMHO, there are several fundamentally negative moments for the Russian Federation in the Karabakh history:
            Two "strategic" -
            - The "frozen conflict" was resolved not in a "peaceful" / "dialogue" / "political" way, the concept of which is adhered to (and openly exploited) by the Russian Federation, but by "force". What "looks" bad and "tunes" others to do the same;
            - The solution to the conflict was the result of agreements not with the Russian Federation, and not between the participants, but with Turkey. And the fact that the Russian Federation allowed the effective intervention of an "outside force" (especially in "its own clearing") is a damage to its geopolitical position not only in the region, but also in the world.
            One "operational" -
            - Turkey is "building up" the Central Asian belt of the "new silk road" for itself. And, exactly what, displaces the Russian Federation from its positions in this zone as a competitor.
            All this will lead in the future (and in some places already) to the well-known "tuhes" ... request

            As for the importance of Taiwan for China, there are doubts about the balance of moments. what
  7. AshPoseidon
    AshPoseidon 31 May 2021 11: 34
    0
    Let them provide evidence that there is "evidence" of a military alliance between Russia and China. laughing
  8. prior
    prior 31 May 2021 11: 36
    0
    If the fact of the delivery of Russian aircraft and air defense systems to China is a confirmation of a military alliance, then Germany is a union republic in relation to Russia!
    She supplies so much ... lol
  9. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 31 May 2021 11: 41
    +1
    So far, what is difficult to call the final alliance. We and China have too different masses and views on things - it is precisely that we are forced to cooperate, each proceeding from its own goals, but such cooperation cannot be called either good or effective. Between the GG and Japan there was also an alliance during World War II - but the existence of this alliance did not decide much, because these states had interests in too different regions, extremely distant from each other. Therefore, the level of trust, interaction, mutually beneficial relations was low, in contrast to how the allies interacted with each other against the same GG. I believe that a real alliance between Russia and the PRC could be formed if a third participant of such an alliance is formed, which has strong relations with the other two and a convenient geographical location - Iran could become such an ally. In this case, the union could finally take shape
  10. evgen1221
    evgen1221 31 May 2021 11: 45
    +1
    Since when has elementary logic and date matching been considered an analyst's revelation? Certainly journalism has crushed to the bottom.
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 31 May 2021 11: 58
    +2
    The United States has more than 1000 military facilities and bases around the world, but the Russians are still to blame, well, the truth is that the Chinese also dragged along .............
  12. Oleg Nikonov
    Oleg Nikonov 31 May 2021 12: 27
    0
    Until European countries become part of the Russian Federation, there will be no peace in Europe and Africa will not begin to develop
  13. Algorithms of Truth
    Algorithms of Truth 31 May 2021 12: 35
    +2
    If such an alliance exists between China and Russia, then I am only glad of this fact. Anything that opposes the states and their malign policies is good.
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  15. Daria33
    Daria33 31 May 2021 13: 36
    0
    Russia and China did not seem to hide their cooperation in different areas ... Why fence a vegetable garden ???
  16. NF68
    NF68 31 May 2021 16: 01
    0
    The fighters for Democracy have played out ..
  17. Walking 1
    Walking 1 1 June 2021 08: 56
    0
    Apparently the author looked at the photo and made the following conclusion. Shoigu is somewhat similar to the Chinese. So I thought so. wassat
  18. Tramp
    Tramp 1 June 2021 09: 23
    +1
    and what's takoogo. have the West chtol permission to ask. It’s time for NATO not to twitch.
  19. romandostalo
    romandostalo 1 June 2021 13: 28
    0
    The delirium of a gray expert ...